That's an awesome video. I have a Wilton vise that I restored not too long ago. It was completely seized up. The guy that owned it before me goes to alot of auctions. He said he had bought it about 20 years ago. It was in a large batch of shop equipment. He wasn't interested in the vise. So it had sat outside for the entirety of him having it. IN THE WEATHER ON A SCRAP PILE. So you can imagine it's condition. It was completely seized up. It took a lot of heat and a large hydraulic arbor press to get it to separate. Anyway to keep a long story short it turned into my favorite vise in the shop. I believe it was stamped 47.
I came across my dad's old vise in a box in the back of my mom's garage. (My dad died in a motorcycle accident around 25 years ago.) He was a machinist and has a lot of tools I have no clue what they do. I'm just glad you made this video so I can get some information and have a better idea how to clean this old vise up and put it to use. I'm glad my mom didn't get rid of anything.
God bless old men who spend their time on sharing expirience with young people, I ve watched this with big pleasure, thank you very much. Have a long years!
Never get tired of vise videos! I prefer paddle switches on grinders also. I was trained early on in the trades by the old timers to NEVER set the grinder down with the wheel facing the bench or work surface. Always put it down with the wheel facing up so it can't take off on you. And, "unplug it when your not using it kid"! Your outtake was great. Done that myself more than once.....
Another great restoration from my favorite shop teacher. Wilton should have given your school brand new vises for those that bent. If they’d had that foresight users would still be bragging about Wilton’s superior quality.
@@mrpete222 Your very welcome Sir. your channel inspired me to make a UA-cam channel, I'm not as knowledgable as you but I think your channel is awesome. I have learned so much, and I'm no spring chicken either... thank you
I've the same philosophy on restorations--the so-called Defects of mold joints, casting sand fall-off, etc are part of the origins of the device, giving it character. And btw--you're still in your prime.
I enjoyed the out take Mr. Pete. I wish I could tell you that never happens to me, but then I'd be lying. Great looking vice, I am "wilton green" with envy over it.
I remember when the community all helped build a Baby Bullet. I liked that vise so much that I hunted one down and overpaid but am glad that I have it now. Great to see you still doing it Mr. Lyle. You are a true classic sir!
That vise is in pristine condition besides the corrosion, it looks like it had very little use over the last 45 years. Great find in the motherlode of tools.
Only for professionals! I laughed hard and needed it today! I'm very interested about lubing that vise when you put it back together. I'm over you repainting it already. Good stuff sir.
I’m with you on the level of restoration. These vises were made to be used. I like the simplicity of Wilton jaws. Very easy to make a few sets for special purposes. Usually I skip the dowel pin.
I recently bought a Wilton 6" general purpose (beam) vice off amazon for ~$150ish. Made in China but it is pretty good. Certainly not up to the vintage US stuff, but it is solid. As a woodworker (lathe turner) it is really all I need in my shop. Not unhappy...
During my naval shipyard career, we were sometimes sent out to the "Mothball Fleet" to service dehumidification systems. Every ship had complete metal shops: machine, welding, fabrication, sheet metal, etc. Every work bench had a Wilton vise bolted to it. Sadly (depressingly), most of those ships were used as target practice and those gorgeous metal shops all went to the bottom with all the machines and tooling.
My lathe was originally purchased by the Navy to be put on a ship. I'm glad I have it today. Maybe if I knew where the ship was sunk and a location of the shop inside the wreck I could put on my dive gear and go get one if those vises. 🤣🤣🤣
I now know a little more about a vice. I was working with my brother in law once on a car part we needed very tight in a vice. I torqued it as hard as I could and the cast iron body broke. Didn't realize I was so strong or the vice was junk. Probably the latter. Thanks for the nice video.
Some people have vices but you, Mr Pete, have vises! Pretty neat tips on the rust remover, and how to date the vise, and casting lines. OMG.. those DeWalts are wrist breakers..you need to read the Safety card in your shop! LOL....
Thanks for keeping the Wilton sticker intact! I've restored a few of various sizes and have four in service including a swivel jaw from the 1960s. Wilton moved to Schiller Park in 1957. Sadly, their Tradesman model is now made in Taiwan.
Nice job and nice vise! Your spirit is GREAT!! Hope all is well with your health. Thanks for ALL the videos! At the end, lefty= loosey, righty = tighty! HA!
Those restorations you mentioned I call "son of the owner restoration" when the factories will take aside one unit and made them cosmetically perfect. :)
My first angle grinder was a black Black and Decker like yours. I used mine for 20 years before it burnt out. I never had an issue with the paddle switch cause I always laid it on its side or upside down. Also Wilton vises if any good sell high at auction around here.AL B.
I always liked your long and "boring" videos, but the short-format for the modern ADD viewer is okay too, just keep doing what you do and we'll keep being edutained. Thanks for all you do.
I have one like the small one you have. Top of the line vise!! If you ever sell those hope you do Pete bay!!! That one is worth 600 or probably a lot more.....
Good stuff! I'm like you, tools are for using, not for painting like a 57 Crown Vic. I do like the Wilton, but I'm in the wrong place to find them for a decent price. Maybe someday! I did the paper towel trick on a flat surface and found that the pattern of the paper transferred very nicely onto the flat surface. :/
Dang, what a beauty. I'd almost be inclined to just knock off the rust and use as is to preserve that original paint job. I like how you kept the bottle of "rust remover" with label facing away and didn't mention the name. If these companies want their products featured in your videos, they should be paying for it at this point.
lol, I was at your gasoline crack, you said but gas is too expensive. I paused the video, chuckled and told my wife (who LOVES listening to your videos) that I was going to have to read the comments now, that using gasoline as a solvent is sure to yank more than a few chains. Unpaused the video and you said just kidding, of course you NEVER use gasoline as a solvent...Hah! The leaded stuff worked best!
I've used quite a bit of gas and diesel for cleaning out in the fields. Gotta do what you gotta do when you're working on dirt. I prefer diesel it doesn't seem as hard on the skin. Annually well use a hand pump to get the water off the bottom of the big tanks and I'll use that stuff that's not quite clean enough to use
@@alexduke5402 Back in the day we used to prefer gas for cleaning. Paint, brushes, grease...It cleans great. I sucked so much gas as a youth siphoning tanks...Maybe I'll die from it all at some point, maybe I won't. Can't change it now...Still can't stand wearing gloves for anything...
The representative sounds like a salesman, not a manufacturing representative. But either way, he definitely left an impression. Fortunately for the Wilton company quality trumped character. Al always I totally enjoyed your video ... Thanks for Sharing ... Stay Safe and Well ....
These Wiltons are tragically beautiful. Every time I see one for sale near me, its always in well-worn condition and they usually have an asking price of at least $300 despite needing a few dozen hours of restoration. What a shame some old tools will be reclaimed by the earth through oxidation instead of being restored.
Three weeks ago I went to an auction with that exact same voice only it had the swivel base. Not very good condition. Believe it or not it was the very very first item to sell on that sale. I was going to bid $50. sold for 155
as more and more goes digital so too does my appreciation for your channel and these analogue tools. hope that drill didnt cause you any injury at the end clip, take care sir
Nice job, Mr. Pete! I think I would have cleaned up the anvil part of that vise if I had a mill handy, Have you looked at what those vises sell for? At least what people are asking?? Holy ****!
@@mrpete222 I didn't catch the exact model of yours when I watched your video, but an Amazon, new of course, an 8" jaw width 12" opening 800S (Wilton bullet style) is $4,627. Now I know that a bigger size than what you show, but $4.6K for a freaking vise? Nominally, the used 5 inchers are rarely, rarely $350 and much more often $450-$500. That still seems like a helluva lot of money for a vise, used.
The Wilton is, in my opinion, the best vise made in the USA. Have you had any contact with a German made LEINEN or BOLEY vise with dovetail guide? I would be very interested in your opinion. Best regards from Germany...
They always want stupid money for the big Wiltons around me. Maybe someday I will luck into one but I am not holding my breath. For now I just use the hydraulic press to hold stuff.
The vise I have came from my grandfather who I think brazed the entire movable jaw back onto it. Not sure if it was abused bad enough to crack off or if it's a terrible vise 😂
Mr. Pete: I am definitely in the FULL restoration camp of a beautiful and old Wilton Bullet Vise! Doing a half baked resto on THAT ONE is a "crime"! As a long time viewer of your channel, I know it's really not your style, however on this one you should have gone the few extra steps and made the old vise proud once again.
What a score! If there is a better vise I have never seen one. Same with the grinder. Have you priced either lately? Astronomically compared to my time, but what isn’t?
That 45 wilton is really close in looks to the York it „borrowed“ the design from. Wilton's cast (iron) quality is far superior to York's of the same time, though.
Your passing comment about not using gasoline is important. Gas has been used as a solvent and cleaner, but it has a lower flash point than many better, safer cleaners. So it's more dangerous in potentially combustible areas, and it isnt as effective a cleaner. Have fun with tools, but be safe.
So I keep seeing vids on Wilton vises and a lot of the people making the videos say that that date represents 5 years after the vise was made. For the warranty. Have you ever heard this before? So mine would either be made in 1970, or ‘65??
Hello Mr Pete, wonderful information once again ! Im currently working to fix an old 7 inch plain bearing Stanley lathe, is it possible that i Ask a couple of questions ? is there a better way to contact you ? Kind regards, Joseph
That's an awesome video. I have a Wilton vise that I restored not too long ago. It was completely seized up. The guy that owned it before me goes to alot of auctions. He said he had bought it about 20 years ago. It was in a large batch of shop equipment. He wasn't interested in the vise. So it had sat outside for the entirety of him having it. IN THE WEATHER ON A SCRAP PILE. So you can imagine it's condition. It was completely seized up. It took a lot of heat and a large hydraulic arbor press to get it to separate. Anyway to keep a long story short it turned into my favorite vise in the shop. I believe it was stamped 47.
Wonderful that you restored it. Sounds like that was a big big job
I came across my dad's old vise in a box in the back of my mom's garage. (My dad died in a motorcycle accident around 25 years ago.) He was a machinist and has a lot of tools I have no clue what they do. I'm just glad you made this video so I can get some information and have a better idea how to clean this old vise up and put it to use. I'm glad my mom didn't get rid of anything.
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God bless old men who spend their time on sharing expirience with young people, I ve watched this with big pleasure, thank you very much. Have a long years!
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Never get tired of vise videos! I prefer paddle switches on grinders also. I was trained early on in the trades by the old timers to NEVER set the grinder down with the wheel facing the bench or work surface. Always put it down with the wheel facing up so it can't take off on you. And, "unplug it when your not using it kid"! Your outtake was great. Done that myself more than once.....
You were given wonderful advice
Another gem Sir.
Another great restoration from my favorite shop teacher. Wilton should have given your school brand new vises for those that bent. If they’d had that foresight users would still be bragging about Wilton’s superior quality.
Totally agree. In fact I thought they would. Of course I was only 24 years old and still very naïve
Beautiful, even unpainted.
You could give that as a wedding present.
Frank
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Tube, This is a great day! Glad to see you cleaning and painting some machinery. She’s gonna be a beauty.
This channel is the best, thanks Mr. Pete.... great video
Thank you very much, I wish other people thought that, lol
@@mrpete222 Your very welcome Sir. your channel inspired me to make a UA-cam channel, I'm not as knowledgable as you but I think your channel is awesome. I have learned so much, and I'm no spring chicken either... thank you
Gotta love those USA Wiltons!!! You have a beauty there my friend!
Thanks ray
I've the same philosophy on restorations--the so-called Defects of mold joints, casting sand fall-off, etc are part of the origins of the device, giving it character.
And btw--you're still in your prime.
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I enjoyed the out take Mr. Pete. I wish I could tell you that never happens to me, but then I'd be lying. Great looking vice, I am "wilton green" with envy over it.
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Happy Birthday Mr. Pete
Thanks
I remember when the community all helped build a Baby Bullet. I liked that vise so much that I hunted one down and overpaid but am glad that I have it now. Great to see you still doing it Mr. Lyle. You are a true classic sir!
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That vise is in pristine condition besides the corrosion, it looks like it had very little use over the last 45 years. Great find in the motherlode of tools.
Only for professionals!
I laughed hard and needed it today!
I'm very interested about lubing that vise when you put it back together.
I'm over you repainting it already.
Good stuff sir.
Cheers, Mr Pete.
I’m with you on the level of restoration. These vises were made to be used. I like the simplicity of Wilton jaws. Very easy to make a few sets for special purposes. Usually I skip the dowel pin.
I have a 6" on my bench in the barn , bought it new many years ago at a tool resale shop. it has treated me well over many projects. Thanks Mr. Pete!
I recently bought a Wilton 6" general purpose (beam) vice off amazon for ~$150ish. Made in China but it is pretty good. Certainly not up to the vintage US stuff, but it is solid. As a woodworker (lathe turner) it is really all I need in my shop. Not unhappy...
During my naval shipyard career, we were sometimes sent out to the "Mothball Fleet" to service dehumidification systems. Every ship had complete metal shops: machine, welding, fabrication, sheet metal, etc. Every work bench had a Wilton vise bolted to it. Sadly (depressingly), most of those ships were used as target practice and those gorgeous metal shops all went to the bottom with all the machines and tooling.
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My lathe was originally purchased by the Navy to be put on a ship. I'm glad I have it today. Maybe if I knew where the ship was sunk and a location of the shop inside the wreck I could put on my dive gear and go get one if those vises. 🤣🤣🤣
@@karlrussell6765 Hopefully the shells didn't hit the shops!
Do not remember ever seeing one of these Wilton vices (uk version) here😅
I now know a little more about a vice. I was working with my brother in law once on a car part we needed very tight in a vice. I torqued it as hard as I could and the cast iron body broke. Didn't realize I was so strong or the vice was junk. Probably the latter. Thanks for the nice video.
Norm the Teacher,
All cast iron vises are junk.
You need a forged vise
Some people have vices but you, Mr Pete, have vises! Pretty neat tips on the rust remover, and how to date the vise, and casting lines. OMG.. those DeWalts are wrist breakers..you need to read the Safety card in your shop! LOL....
Thanks for keeping the Wilton sticker intact! I've restored a few of various sizes and have four in service including a swivel jaw from the 1960s. Wilton moved to Schiller Park in 1957. Sadly, their Tradesman model is now made in Taiwan.
Thanks
Nice job and nice vise! Your spirit is GREAT!! Hope all is well with your health. Thanks for ALL the videos! At the end, lefty= loosey, righty = tighty! HA!
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Good morning Mr Pete. I have one in the shed waiting on a restoration at this very moment!
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Wilton still makes vises in the US, but they also have a lower priced line made in China. I believe both are available on Amazon.
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It is always easier to correct the rotation direction than it is to check it first. Thanks for the great video.
Those restorations you mentioned I call "son of the owner restoration" when the factories will take aside one unit and made them cosmetically perfect. :)
Windchester call that One in 1000
Nice outtake
Talking with someone the other day, we believe that Wilton named their vise appropriately. Wilton- cause you “Wil” pay a “ton” for one 😉
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I have several Wilton vices and I love them. Thanks for the video!
I have the wilton pipe vise..Bought it used for 100.00...I never took it apart. Might be my new project . Thanks.
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I have the same model made in 64. It the best vice I own.
My first angle grinder was a black Black and Decker like yours. I used mine for 20 years before it burnt out. I never had an issue with the paddle switch cause I always laid it on its side or upside down. Also Wilton vises if any good sell high at auction around here.AL B.
I always liked your long and "boring" videos, but the short-format for the modern ADD viewer is okay too, just keep doing what you do and we'll keep being edutained. Thanks for all you do.
Thanks
I use Coffee Filters to filter my gas. You can see lots of little fine particles of something in the coffee filter after straining gas through one.
I have one like the small one you have. Top of the line vise!! If you ever sell those hope you do Pete bay!!! That one is worth 600 or probably a lot more.....
I want one of these... loved the video.
Good stuff! I'm like you, tools are for using, not for painting like a 57 Crown Vic. I do like the Wilton, but I'm in the wrong place to find them for a decent price. Maybe someday! I did the paper towel trick on a flat surface and found that the pattern of the paper transferred very nicely onto the flat surface. :/
Thank you for sharing. Very much enjoyed it. Nice vise.👍👀
Dang, what a beauty. I'd almost be inclined to just knock off the rust and use as is to preserve that original paint job. I like how you kept the bottle of "rust remover" with label facing away and didn't mention the name. If these companies want their products featured in your videos, they should be paying for it at this point.
Agreed, I show their product and many other videos. They never sent me samples
Agreed, agreed, take a lesson from other UA-camrs and cover all labels with "#Not Sponsored" or some such stickers
You are indeed a man with many vises...............
Thanks Mr. Pete. I just happen to think about the applying the oil after it come out of the chemical. It a lot like when you use gun blueing.
lol, I was at your gasoline crack, you said but gas is too expensive. I paused the video, chuckled and told my wife (who LOVES listening to your videos) that I was going to have to read the comments now, that using gasoline as a solvent is sure to yank more than a few chains. Unpaused the video and you said just kidding, of course you NEVER use gasoline as a solvent...Hah! The leaded stuff worked best!
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Nothing cuts grease like gas, I wish I had a dollar for every engine I've pulled and cleaned with a gallon of gas back in my day...😂
I've used quite a bit of gas and diesel for cleaning out in the fields. Gotta do what you gotta do when you're working on dirt. I prefer diesel it doesn't seem as hard on the skin. Annually well use a hand pump to get the water off the bottom of the big tanks and I'll use that stuff that's not quite clean enough to use
@@alexduke5402 Back in the day we used to prefer gas for cleaning. Paint, brushes, grease...It cleans great. I sucked so much gas as a youth siphoning tanks...Maybe I'll die from it all at some point, maybe I won't. Can't change it now...Still can't stand wearing gloves for anything...
Thanks Mr Pete !! (You have gotten a lot of use from the microwave turntable )
The representative sounds like a salesman, not a manufacturing representative. But either way, he definitely left an impression. Fortunately for the Wilton company quality trumped character. Al always I totally enjoyed your video ... Thanks for Sharing ... Stay Safe and Well ....
I have a three inch I bought at a rummage sale. It's missing one jaw insert. Need to restore it.
Thanks for the video MrPete.
Good Morning Mr Pete! Hope your keeping cool and dry!
Bubba says hey I still have mine in the shed out behind the barn Bubba likes the last seen
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NICE!!!
Looking great! (I mean both the repairman and the vise! Greg
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Mr Lyle, I thought I had a lot of vices.......wishing you an wonderful weekend , give your wife a hug for me........Paul
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Thanks for the very nice video.
cant wait for part II
These Wiltons are tragically beautiful. Every time I see one for sale near me, its always in well-worn condition and they usually have an asking price of at least $300 despite needing a few dozen hours of restoration. What a shame some old tools will be reclaimed by the earth through oxidation instead of being restored.
Three weeks ago I went to an auction with that exact same voice only it had the swivel base. Not very good condition. Believe it or not it was the very very first item to sell on that sale. I was going to bid $50. sold for 155
Just like us. 😮
I love the older Dewalt drills before they put the torque limiters in.
Thanks for your efforts🤗😎🤗😎
Nice vice.Thank you.
Cool STUFF Lyle.
I have an old Huge Vice. Of about 50 Lbs that I need to restore..
Mike M.
Wrong way - Corrigan 🤣🤣🤣 Hope you didnt get hurt 😉
Better than oil - use a industrial hot air dryer to dry and apply paraffin wax.
Thanks for the video.
Some Wilton vises still have "Made in U.S.A." in/on the casting (Bullets in particular).
you can just use the rust remover on a rag with plastic wrap over it too.
Pristine vise..... Previously owned by a Guidance Counselor...
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Wow! Is right. Righty tighty lefty loosy.
That vice is in very nice condition for its age. Hope you did not damage your wrist and hand when you were using the drill, it looked quite violent.
Funny outtake at the end. One of the downsides of using the power tool. :-)
as more and more goes digital so too does my appreciation for your channel and these analogue tools. hope that drill didnt cause you any injury at the end clip, take care sir
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Wow ! 🙂🙃😉
Nice job, Mr. Pete! I think I would have cleaned up the anvil part of that vise if I had a mill handy,
Have you looked at what those vises sell for? At least what people are asking?? Holy ****!
How much?
@@mrpete222 I didn't catch the exact model of yours when I watched your video, but an Amazon, new of course, an 8" jaw width 12" opening 800S (Wilton bullet style) is $4,627. Now I know that a bigger size than what you show, but $4.6K for a freaking vise? Nominally, the used 5 inchers are rarely, rarely $350 and much more often $450-$500. That still seems like a helluva lot of money for a vise, used.
The Wilton is, in my opinion, the best vise made in the USA.
Have you had any contact with a German made LEINEN or BOLEY vise with dovetail guide?
I would be very interested in your opinion.
Best regards from Germany...
Yes, they are very good vises. I am really not familiar with the German version
Nice vice. Use an impact for bolts so it doesn't spin your arm off. I know because I have done it too many times.
Hope your wrist is OK. Made mine hurt to watch it!🤣
Believe it or not, it did not hurt me. Although I’ve been hurt fairly bad by very large Black & Decker electric drills
I'm sure many people have made that mistake in the outtake before. Even worse with brushless drills these days. Take it easy on your wrist Lyle :P
They always want stupid money for the big Wiltons around me. Maybe someday I will luck into one but I am not holding my breath. For now I just use the hydraulic press to hold stuff.
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The vise I have came from my grandfather who I think brazed the entire movable jaw back onto it. Not sure if it was abused bad enough to crack off or if it's a terrible vise 😂
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"Bout time you cot back! Feller can get lonesome without some good videos.
The pipe clamp part has "perpendicular" jaws but clamps " parallel "to the bench.
I bet those bent Wilton vises could have been repaired by machining off the round part and boring the hole out and pressing in a new round section.
Mr. Pete: I am definitely in the FULL restoration camp of a beautiful and old Wilton Bullet Vise! Doing a half baked resto on THAT ONE is a "crime"! As a long time viewer of your channel, I know it's really not your style, however on this one you should have gone the few extra steps and made the old vise proud once again.
Filing of some flashing? Yes I would do that. Using filler and stuff to get plastic looking vises? No, sir! (That's what we got hammer paint for 🤭.)
What a score! If there is a better vise I have never seen one. Same with the grinder. Have you priced either lately? Astronomically compared to my time, but what isn’t?
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That 45 wilton is really close in looks to the York it „borrowed“ the design from. Wilton's cast (iron) quality is far superior to York's of the same time, though.
Your passing comment about not using gasoline is important. Gas has been used as a solvent and cleaner, but it has a lower flash point than many better, safer cleaners. So it's more dangerous in potentially combustible areas, and it isnt as effective a cleaner. Have fun with tools, but be safe.
Can you fabricate a new base for the 80176 4"?
So I keep seeing vids on Wilton vises and a lot of the people making the videos say that that date represents 5 years after the vise was made. For the warranty. Have you ever heard this before? So mine would either be made in 1970, or ‘65??
No, I have not heard that
Spend enuff time with hand drills and you will soon remember the transmission position. As well as how much impacts are taken for granted. Lol
Good video Lyle. Have you ever tried vinegar to remove rust?
Yes, that is shown in my rust removal video called Olympics
I still don't understand the allure or the price tag these vises command over other quality vises???
That will remain a mystery to all of us
i hopre your wrist is ok ?
cheers ben.
Actually, it did not hurt me. I was kind of surprised
Not many people remember wrong way Corrigan. If you don't know who he is it would be worth your while to find out.
HARD to find a US made today!
What product do you use for rust and corrosion removal?
Evaporust
@@mrpete222 Thank You. I will look for it in ONtario Canada.
Hello Mr Pete, wonderful information once again ! Im currently working to fix an old 7 inch plain bearing Stanley lathe, is it possible that i Ask a couple of questions ? is there a better way to contact you ?
Kind regards,
Joseph
Lyle, is that 3" Wilton to be sold ?
Sorry
@@mrpete222 Don't blame you...
You are a lucky man, can you please donate it to me?
If they only knew that you were going to become a UA-cam star they would have replaced them.
OMG LoL🤣 @mrpete222 17:50