Watching A Frozen Engine Warm Up With A Thermal Camera

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  • Watching A Cold Engine Start With A Thermal Camera
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    In this video we’re going to be cold starting the engine of my 2016 Subaru Crosstrek, and using a thermal camera we’re going to watch the engine heat up. The ambient temperature is about negative 6 degrees Celsius or about 22 degrees Fahrenheit. As far as metrics we’ll be monitoring, we’ve got overlays of the engine RPM, which will run higher when the engine first starts to help warm things up. We also have throttle position, the coolant and intake air temperatures, the temperature of where the thermal camera is centered, and a timestamp so we know how long the engine has been running.
    If it’s freezing outside and you don’t want to get in a frozen car, no one’s going to fault you for warming up the engine and making sure it’s comfortable inside, as well as making sure the windows are defrosted so you’re ready to roll. In my video I was purely discussing what’s happening from a mechanical standpoint when you let your engine sit and idle.
    Oil can actually flow at very low temperatures. You may be freezing, but for certain viscosity grades cold temperatures aren’t a huge deal. For example, my Honda S2000 recommends a 10W-30 oil, and it only recommends going down to a thinner 5W grade oil if ambient temperatures drop below minus 20 degrees C. Minus 20 degrees C! And this is logical based on SAE cold temperature viscosity ratings.
    For example, a 0W oil needs to be able to pump at -40 degrees C. A 5W oil needs to be able to pump at -35 degrees C. A 10W oil needs to be able to flow at -30 degrees C, and so on. Oil can do a decent job of protecting your engine even at low temperatures, as long as you’re not asking the engine for too much power. Try to keep the revs low, and be light on the throttle until the engine is warmed up. Getting up to higher vehicle speeds is fine, as long as your acceleration is gentle and steady, and you’re mindful of your engine RPM. Source: www.viscopedia.com/viscosity-t...
    Now inevitably someone in the comments is going to say they live in an area with negative 40 degrees C temps and they always warm there car up for several minutes before taking off. A couple of things to note here: first, that’s obviously super cold, and I can’t blame you for wanting the interior to be warm. Second, make sure you’re using a viscosity grade that can flow in these conditions. 0W is designed for this. Third, with temperatures this low, it’s a good idea to get an electric engine block heater so your engine won’t have to strain so hard to get oil flowing throughout.
    At about 5 minutes and 20 seconds, when the coolant temperature reaches 50 degrees C, you’ll notice the engine RPM starts to significantly drop, eventually getting down to 800 RPM when the coolant reaches 60 degrees C.
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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  7 років тому +65

    For an HD (thermal) version of this video, here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/n_CQzBc6GbM/v-deo.html

    • @ilozeet
      @ilozeet 6 років тому

      where do you get you IR camera please?

    • @send.itmedia
      @send.itmedia 6 років тому

      the metal kind

    • @send.itmedia
      @send.itmedia 6 років тому

      its mint

    • @juniorgambino19
      @juniorgambino19 6 років тому

      Engineering Explained MY MECHANIC ONCE TOLD ME ENGINE MOUNTS CAN GO BAD FOR DRIVING ON S COLD ENGINE. TURBULANCE MAYBE? ANY SCIENCE BEHIND THAT? HE SAID JUST WARM IT UP A TAB BIT USUALLY 15S

    • @phs125
      @phs125 6 років тому +1

      1) my ambient temperature never drops below 25°C
      Do I still need to warm it up?
      2) when don't use my vehicle for more than a week, it doesn't stay on unless I use atleast half throttle (it's carbeurated), is it okay to warm it by racing?

  • @GueVonez
    @GueVonez 7 років тому +2921

    I usually just redline it as soon as i turn it on

    • @AndyZULUL
      @AndyZULUL 7 років тому +41

      Broseff G 😂

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 7 років тому +494

      Are you the lady who lives across the street from me? WTF, that ain't no air raid siren, its a Honda.

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 7 років тому +89

      me 2..thank god it even has turbo so its even faster heating ..and off course its company car ..so i can meassure -20 celsius to 90 celsius times off coolant

    • @jon_do
      @jon_do 7 років тому +88

      how long until you remember to get out of neutral?

    • @FALLOUT20rads
      @FALLOUT20rads 7 років тому +249

      Broseff G a guy that lived do the street from me used to do that for real. He went through vehicles like socks. He eventually OD'd on meth.

  • @peter-kriska
    @peter-kriska 7 років тому +1009

    American using metric units, you're the real MVP :D

    • @lfacelessbucklel1291
      @lfacelessbucklel1291 5 років тому +9

      Whats wrong with metric??

    • @cesarg4328
      @cesarg4328 5 років тому +98

      @@lfacelessbucklel1291 Nothing, but most americans can´t handle it.

    • @UnrealOG137
      @UnrealOG137 5 років тому +49

      @@cesarg4328 it's basically required for science.

    • @GuyFromJupiter
      @GuyFromJupiter 5 років тому +15

      Celsius is no more useful for day to day use than fahrenheit. It also isn't always useful in science where you often need an absolute scale. Why would Americans switch when we don't care if the rest of the world likes it or not?

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit 5 років тому +51

      @@GuyFromJupiter because metric is far superior to American measurements. Celsius for example is based on a scalr to fit important temperature gradients like water freezing at 0 C and boiling at 100 C

  • @TheCarLovingSwede
    @TheCarLovingSwede 7 років тому +1402

    In Russia they just light a fire under the engine

    • @L1ttlepsych0
      @L1ttlepsych0 7 років тому +188

      I approve this message.

    • @SkylineFinesse
      @SkylineFinesse 7 років тому +190

      In soviet russia fire lights you.

    • @AMalas
      @AMalas 7 років тому +36

      Roddy Yang In russia the fire lights an engine under you!

    • @spencergrubb5153
      @spencergrubb5153 7 років тому +34

      In the engine a Russia starts in the fire

    • @deonisp
      @deonisp 7 років тому +17

      True, my dad used a compact butane stove for that

  • @shconer
    @shconer 7 років тому +33

    A few things that you might not have thought about when operating in extremely low temperatures. While it is true that a 0w engine oil will flow reasonable well and warm up pretty quickly. Other fluids like the transmission fluid and power steering fluid on hydraulic steering systems will take a much longer time to warm up or never warm up in extreme cold situations. It is also more critical that you reduce the stress on these systems when you start driving. Grease and Fluids in the differentials, CV joints, ball joints, etc. can be very thick at -40C and not only are they less effective at lubricating but increase the load. It should also be noted that the engine oil should be whenever possible completely warmed up during the drive. Moisture in the crankcase gasses quickly condenses when the engine is turned off and will make its way into the oil. If the water does not get boiled out of the oil and pushed out of the crankcase ventilation system it can freeze components of the crankcase ventilation system causing further problems, reduce the effectiveness of the oil, cause corrosion inside the engine, and over time sludge build up. If there is an accumulation of white milky fluid under your oil cap then the engine is not getting hot enough. Avoid short trips and extended periods of idling.

    • @joseconstante1321
      @joseconstante1321 7 місяців тому

      How do I know the engine is fully warmed up I love in TX the temp is 60s 70s right now

  • @egorikem
    @egorikem 7 років тому +6

    I live in Moscow, so sometimes the temperature gets really low, below -40C. I'm driving 2012 Volvo XC90 and never actually had any problems with starting up in the cold. Just wait until revs calm down to ~800RPM and you are good to go. Normally it takes about 40-60 seconds, depending on how cold it is and how far ago the previous launch was.

  • @EternalyRandom
    @EternalyRandom 7 років тому +8

    You also have to think about the other fluids in the car. Like power steering, and transmission. I've noticed a big difference in how the car shifts and how easy it is to turn from when the car is still cold to warmed up.

    • @davidlobaugh4490
      @davidlobaugh4490 6 місяців тому

      Many vehicles I've had particularly the brakes didn't get live for a short while and required a ton of pressure. Below -15 or F.🤠

  • @mriphone1000
    @mriphone1000 7 років тому +55

    Had to enable notifications, this channel rocks!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  7 років тому +31

      Bullion Forever thank you! It's people like you that keep this channel moving upwards, appreciate it!

    • @LucaFacciniBrit
      @LucaFacciniBrit 7 років тому +2

      Engineering Explained thanks to you now I know the basic facts about every car component. Btw, I'm studying management engineering, so I thought it was important to know these things

    • @phantommedia9964
      @phantommedia9964 7 років тому +1

      Cool, I learn a lot from you as a mech engineer student!

  • @MrDouchoid
    @MrDouchoid 7 років тому +211

    so you're standing in -6 degrees C without gloves and stuff?

    • @liam.k.
      @liam.k. 7 років тому +435

      If you live somewhere cold, -6 isn't that cold at all.

    • @jackpotit
      @jackpotit 7 років тому +317

      -6*C is nothing lol

    • @Basilahi
      @Basilahi 7 років тому +5

      what if u live in a place where it gets as hot as 53 degrees c in the summer , is -6 too cold ?

    • @Kocan7
      @Kocan7 7 років тому +21

      What stuff do you need? At -6 C coat and winter boots are sufficient.

    • @FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904
      @FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904 7 років тому +38

      -6c is not very cold, you dont need gloves for that.

  • @Curling_Rack
    @Curling_Rack 7 років тому +273

    try that test in Winnipeg, Canada when it's -45 degrees Celsius lol

    • @slipknnnot
      @slipknnnot 7 років тому +85

      Why not just try this in space at near absolute zero temperatures while you're at it

    • @dmcpartlin17
      @dmcpartlin17 7 років тому

      Deek you the boss

    • @dmcpartlin17
      @dmcpartlin17 7 років тому +1

      Deek I bet if I didn't say this someone would say "but there's no air in space so it can't start"

    • @BottomShelfLive
      @BottomShelfLive 7 років тому +3

      Jeff I'm right below you in Grafton North Dakota! it's best for block heaters and letting car warm up for sure. by the time it takes you to get all the snow of your car, it's usually ready to go.

    • @BottomShelfLive
      @BottomShelfLive 7 років тому +1

      Jeff I'm right below you in Grafton North Dakota! it's best for block heaters and letting car warm up for sure. by the time it takes you to get all the snow of your car, it's usually ready to go.

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 7 років тому +8

    Cool video! I need to buy a Thermal Camera. They have MANY uses!

  • @650ib
    @650ib 7 років тому +4

    Nice video and I love the Thermo camera!

  • @thebayleaf221
    @thebayleaf221 7 років тому +392

    Not warming up your engine is like waking up and running a 200 meter sprint

    • @the_batmobile0.4
      @the_batmobile0.4 5 років тому +2

      @Based God he meant like run as soon as you get up no warm up no brush teeth whatsoever

    • @the_batmobile0.4
      @the_batmobile0.4 5 років тому +19

      @Based God you will get a heart attack

    • @cloud_c5222
      @cloud_c5222 5 років тому +3

      @@the_batmobile0.4 nahh

    • @doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507
      @doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507 5 років тому +8

      Based God you must sleep outside?

    • @shiroineko13
      @shiroineko13 5 років тому +5

      @Based God dude you run in your pajamas? thats boss

  • @jebbush8491
    @jebbush8491 7 років тому +85

    Can you do a 'Things You Should Never Do in a Car in Winter'? There are so many misconceptions.

    • @dannycool59x49
      @dannycool59x49 5 років тому +1

      like dropping all your coolant so your car doesn't freeze when you are driving

    • @no-hndle
      @no-hndle 3 роки тому +1

      S E X !!

  • @MrJagfootball63
    @MrJagfootball63 7 років тому +2

    This is why I love your channel. Who else gives us this to type of content? Your videos are like a book of random facts that you don't think you need to know until you learn it. Keep up the great work!

  • @ClearGrillz
    @ClearGrillz 7 років тому +2

    I have always appreciated the fact how he does his best to break everything down into layman's terms! It's why i subbed to him couple year's back, glad he's still the same :)

  • @Madman6505
    @Madman6505 7 років тому +3

    Love this channel! I always thought I was prolonging the life of my engine by idling for 5 minutes or more in the winter. Guess I was wrong!

  • @r3fr33z39780
    @r3fr33z39780 7 років тому +309

    i just wait til the rpm drop below 1k then drive casual

    • @notorioushz3361
      @notorioushz3361 7 років тому +196

      r3fr33z39780 I just floor it as soon as I turn it on, vtec yo

    • @user-hk9yu5ew8q
      @user-hk9yu5ew8q 7 років тому +8

      with vtec you don't have to warm your engine?

    • @RandomSauce28
      @RandomSauce28 7 років тому +42

      Needfor I mean it stands for very tall engine cooling so it loves cold engines

    • @gabwebsite
      @gabwebsite 7 років тому +90

      vtec mean quick heating , you hold the engine in the warming zone ( redline ) and it will take less than a minute ! Hope this help

    • @StopaskingformynameYouTube
      @StopaskingformynameYouTube 7 років тому +38

      I can confirm this.

  • @iLeetProductions
    @iLeetProductions 7 років тому +1

    I've been wanting to use a thermal cam to see my engine heat up for a long time now. So thank you for this!! Flir One is out of my budget at the moment but in our -30C temps i'd love to see it heat up

  • @jaredreyes2160
    @jaredreyes2160 7 років тому +1

    Jason, as an engineering student myself, you've got some great videos. I can't wait to watch more of your stuff.

  • @TobiasHenreich
    @TobiasHenreich 7 років тому +486

    unfortunately it's forbidden to run your engine just to warm up your car in Germany

    • @RzVids
      @RzVids 7 років тому +134

      Tobias Henreich wtf?

    • @Studio-IV
      @Studio-IV 7 років тому +67

      Tobias Henreich in America, some states/cities have this law also.

    • @JTR253
      @JTR253 7 років тому +133

      Gregg Congleton no it is to start a car and leave it unattended. Don't know about the crazy germans ;)

    • @jayr2314
      @jayr2314 7 років тому +27

      How strict is the law on this?
      Are you allowed to run your car for 60 seconds before you start driving?
      What's the penalty for breaching this law?

    • @TobiasHenreich
      @TobiasHenreich 7 років тому +51

      Jay R the fine is about 10 Euro give or take. I have never seen this law being applied in real life though. But in theory you have to start up your car with no option of letting the engine warm up for a few minutes or cleaning the car from ice while running

  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  7 років тому +19

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    • @jadmeh
      @jadmeh 7 років тому

      Engineering Explained lol

    • @SDKwarrior
      @SDKwarrior 7 років тому +4

      i was expecting a thermal vison pic of your cat but there was still a cat so thats alright

    • @evolouttion720
      @evolouttion720 7 років тому

      Engineering Explained I drive a diesel landcruiser in -35 with the block heater cause I love in Canada with a block heater is it alright if let it warm up for 5-10 minutes

    • @myar4931
      @myar4931 7 років тому

      Giving the fans a way to keep up with your activities, and creating a diversion to distract the haters. Well played.

    • @bakanur
      @bakanur 7 років тому +1

      I enjoyed both the video and the pictures of your cat, thanks!

  • @superturboawesome1
    @superturboawesome1 7 років тому +2

    Great video sir! Thanks for a more interesting and in-depth post on the topic of cold engine starting! very cool to see how the temperatures change as the engine warms on various components.

  • @DavidHotrum52114
    @DavidHotrum52114 7 років тому +1

    I want to say congratulations to your channel. I just discovered your channel and already enjoy it. Watched a vid for 4 years ago and u have improved your ability to present the subject matter. I hope u can continue making great videos.

  • @VasyaIvanovichPupkin
    @VasyaIvanovichPupkin 7 років тому +11

    This is awesome! I've been wanting to do that experiment for a couple of years now!
    How about a comparison with a 30 sec warmup and a 2 minute drive VS this 7 minute warmup? I think it would be a nice visual of how things get up to temp.

  • @TJ85234
    @TJ85234 7 років тому +31

    pretty cool to see it heat up

  • @stevenf6412
    @stevenf6412 6 років тому

    Awesome channel man, keep up the good work!

  • @cbremer83
    @cbremer83 7 років тому +34

    We have been to -20F here in the Twin Cities, MN this year. Unusually warm lately with temps near or above 30F. Usually January is more like 0F to -20F all month.
    And Florida sucks. I can think of many other warm states I would move to WELL before Florida.

    • @sergeantspeed5941
      @sergeantspeed5941 7 років тому

      Chad Bremer you don't live far from me! lol people don't understand cold until they've suffered winters like us. last week the wind chill was factored to be below 53f!
      even without the wind it was -30!
      but these videos are ALWAYS directed at people who idle for several minutes in 30 degree weather.

    • @sergeantspeed5941
      @sergeantspeed5941 7 років тому

      Chad Bremer it was like Tuesday before last that here in grand forks was 50 below

    • @cbremer83
      @cbremer83 7 років тому +2

      metalhead2508 negative temps. Experienced both. -30 is WAY colder than 20s at 80% humidity.

    • @cbremer83
      @cbremer83 7 років тому +1

      metalhead2508 I have worked the oil patch in South Texas heat and North Dakota arctic. lol. I was living in MN for both. just flew back and forth. I can take the heat and the cold now. I am a gluten for punishment I guess.

    • @hmongboy4564
      @hmongboy4564 7 років тому +1

      Chad Bremer Nice to see another Minnesotan on his Channel. But I agree with you this year weather in MN is bipolar. I just had a remote starter installed into my Car. Since the weather is nicer there's no point of starting my car anymore.

  • @cavemann_
    @cavemann_ 4 роки тому +16

    4. "Move to Florida"
    Convincing

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V 7 років тому +35

    You seem to be forgetting that oil flow, fuel atomization, and comfort aren't the only reasons to warm your engine up. Consider metallic expansion. Aluminum pistons are going to warm up a lot faster than the cast iron or steel cylinder liner and the engine block full of coolant. It's better for the engine to warm up more slowly so the pistons and engine block expand at a more similar rate. When you start and just drive off, the piston expands much more quickly than the cylinder causing it to fit more tightly, and in turn creating more wear and in some engines even causing permanent damage. Just ask anyone who drove a V6 GM car in the mid to late 1990s who didn't warm them up before driving. They had a lot of piston failures due to this metallic expansion. It's still better to allow your engine to idle for 5-10 minutes before driving off in cold weather. Oil change interval should also be shortened a bit in this time due to the extra contamination.

    • @truckerrickakamanowar
      @truckerrickakamanowar 6 років тому +7

      Krankie V I agree completely.

    • @231mac
      @231mac 6 років тому +3

      Rhino Willy's Exactly. Ever seen the bore of an engine that wasn't ever allowed to warm properly? Noticeably accelerated wear and piston scuffing. Nice Jeep, btw!

    • @floridaheat305
      @floridaheat305 6 років тому +1

      I wait 10 mins too and my cars have been good to me, agree 100%

    • @anonymike8280
      @anonymike8280 4 роки тому +2

      The standing advice is, if you drive the vehicle immediately or after a short warmup, it should be driven moderately. That means getting up to street speed slowly. But if where you live you have to immediately enter the stream of traffic on a highway or boulevard you might not be able to do that. Engines do warm up more quickly if the vehicle is moving though.
      A lot of people don't have ten minutes in the morning. You must be either self-employed or retired.

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 5 місяців тому

      EVERYONE has ten minutes. You're spouting nonsense. @@anonymike8280

  • @475george
    @475george 7 років тому

    Thank you for posting this video, the video you previously posting of warming up your car properly. I been warming up my car for 5-7 mins for years and now I understand I was doing it wrong this whole time.

  • @CarnutMM
    @CarnutMM 7 років тому

    Very cool. That's a creative video. Keep'em coming.

  • @under0ath109
    @under0ath109 7 років тому +3

    That was a really intriguing video that I enjoyed! One must also remember that even though the coolant temperature is up to par, your engine oil does not follow suit nearly as quickly. For example, I've driven the 2003 BMW M3 and 09 M5 on numerous occasions. Within the first 5 or so minutes, the coolant temperature is up to temperature. However, the oil is still barely reaching 100F. It can take up to 10-15 minutes before the oil is property up to temperature and even longer still.
    I wish my new car had an oil temperature sensor. :)

  • @Basilahi
    @Basilahi 7 років тому +3

    why is this so satisfying to watch

  • @thewakersci
    @thewakersci 7 років тому

    I love how your fingertips go from warm to cold if you look close enough. Thanks for the insightful video.

  • @gmcmanus663
    @gmcmanus663 7 років тому

    Very cool and informative, keep up the great work!

  • @paidintheshade
    @paidintheshade 7 років тому +46

    Haaa lmbo #4.move to Florida !! That was funny even though I'm sure you were serious lol great video keep up the good work pal

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  7 років тому +5

      It was a joke! :)

    • @paidintheshade
      @paidintheshade 7 років тому

      Engineering Explained it was a goo one thanks again buddy

    • @siamiam
      @siamiam 7 років тому +2

      its the best advice lol

    • @zajdabneeg
      @zajdabneeg 7 років тому

      Michael C. lol true and logical to move to florida

    • @Dake21
      @Dake21 7 років тому +1

      Way too hot and humid for me!

  • @RobinWilkinson
    @RobinWilkinson 7 років тому +3

    Really cool video! It might also be interesting to note that warming up the engine only warms the engine. All the other drive components, like transmission, differential(s), CV joints are still cold and have highly viscous lubricants.

  • @fletchermcgee1
    @fletchermcgee1 7 років тому

    one of the best EEs to date, simple and informative

  • @LaiPt
    @LaiPt 7 років тому

    awesome video man

  • @ricardo1e93
    @ricardo1e93 7 років тому +4

    "And, point number 4, move to Florida" Made my monday :)

  • @kdmq
    @kdmq 2 роки тому +3

    It would be very nice to see if there's a way to measure the temps with the hood closed, as obviously this would make a huge difference as far as how side components, like the battery, warm up.

  • @CarReviewsEU
    @CarReviewsEU 7 років тому

    Interesting video. Great.

  • @Nahkalen
    @Nahkalen 5 років тому

    Ty for using metric system in most of your vids. Helps a lot

  • @der_pinguin44
    @der_pinguin44 7 років тому +148

    "Move to Florida..."
    No. No, don't move to Florida, we're full, too many New Yorkers.
    Go to Arizona, better Job opportunities there.

    • @Conrailfan2596
      @Conrailfan2596 5 років тому +3

      There are too many people from Florida in ny

    • @blumac9801
      @blumac9801 5 років тому +6

      Kyle Reese yeah, especially here in Palm Beach...

    • @djs18
      @djs18 5 років тому +8

      Yeah definitely don't move to Florida. We have way too many New Yorkers/New Jersey idiots and theyre obnoxious. Please move somewhere else.

    • @Dr.Westside
      @Dr.Westside 5 років тому

      I am born and raised in Florida and I can tell you there's too many people here .

    • @Kevin-sy8uf
      @Kevin-sy8uf 5 років тому

      @@Conrailfan2596
      Oh god no. The only New Yorkers who move to Florida are from trashville Long Island(which are not even New Yorkers).
      There are only two alpha++ global cities in the wolrd and one is NYC. Now why would I leave that to go see some alligators and old people?
      because that's all you got, swamps and old people.

  • @anthonylach8089
    @anthonylach8089 7 років тому +17

    I live in an area with -40 temps and I always warm my car up for several minutes before taking off
    :)

  • @sgtkeebler
    @sgtkeebler 7 років тому

    thanks for doing this. that's why I like you, because you have facts and science.

  • @mrdeath212
    @mrdeath212 7 років тому

    This video is freakin awesome! I love the creativity here

  • @spankeyfish
    @spankeyfish 7 років тому +29

    3:17 you can see the top radiator hose suddenly warm up when the thermostat opens

    • @strikedraven
      @strikedraven 7 років тому +1

      But why does the thermostat opens at a coolant temperature of 40°C? It slows down the heating process. My Golf MK3 thermostate opens at only ~70°C.

    • @Nebula735
      @Nebula735 7 років тому +2

      Because hot spots can cause cylinder warping. Consequence of not circulating the water.

    • @jaryH3
      @jaryH3 7 років тому +2

      I can't see it. I mean I see the hose turning red, but the video is sped up, so it is not so obvious.

    • @boundless_exploration_4850
      @boundless_exploration_4850 5 років тому

      the big hose on the very left of the screen its in an N shape

  • @BeyBoy17
    @BeyBoy17 5 років тому +6

    VIDEO IDEA: Cold Engine Wear In Freezing Temperatures comparing Oilpan Heater vs No heater vs Block Heater and doing Oil Annalysis' to see which resulted in the most wear.

  • @robink.9459
    @robink.9459 7 років тому +2

    thanks for using units that people outside the us understand.

  • @chriss3594
    @chriss3594 7 років тому

    Very nice presentation. Keep up the great channel.

  • @indexMemories
    @indexMemories 7 років тому +104

    I drive 2007 1.6l. lancer. I wait till rpm drop from 1200 to 900-800 then drive it.

    • @jameskdobbins
      @jameskdobbins 7 років тому +30

      DansGame if you watch his first video, that's what he's warning against. That high rpm is during what's called open loop, which the car dumps a crazy amount of fuel to get the motor warmed up, Again because the O2 sensors aren't warmed up yet. That fuel causes an excess buildup of carbon and will age the motor faster. It's best to drive it during this time.

    • @redsoldierftcarson
      @redsoldierftcarson 7 років тому +30

      DansGame no it's not! open loop is programmed to that way so that the engine will run smooth on a cold start, the reason it "dumps" fuel(which the extra fuel amount is negligible) is because when the engine is cold it is harder to ignite the fuel mixture. the engine will remain in open loop until the vehicle starts to warm up regardless of whether or not your driving it, but driving during this time only adds more fuel, rpms, and load no matter how light you drive it.

    • @indexMemories
      @indexMemories 7 років тому +3

      Interesting. The thing is that I've been told not to by a few people. They are what everyone would call them experienced drivers, they drive buses for a living. Main point was to let the engine parts warm up, leading to less friction. While also making a bit more of that carbon buildup. Is 1 minute really enough?
      Anyway, thanks, will look into it.

    • @gracej79
      @gracej79 7 років тому +22

      Brandon Cunningham The idea is to reduce the total time it is running in this condition. Driving the car heats it much faster than idling, so the engine spends less time with the warm-up mapping.

    • @redsoldierftcarson
      @redsoldierftcarson 7 років тому +3

      I drive commercial trucks for a living and I like to warm them up for between 5-10 mins but I also have to build air. one minute in a regular vehicle is fine, my personal vehicle I like to wait until the rpms kick down to idle. about 2-5 mins.

  • @byonnem7342
    @byonnem7342 7 років тому +3

    just a question: How do you get the RPM and temp in the bottom left of the screen? through an OBDII recorder or something?

    • @BirdiesGoCherp
      @BirdiesGoCherp 7 років тому

      Byonnem yes. OBD 2, he said that in the video.

  • @Testtestnotest
    @Testtestnotest 7 років тому

    This was so entertaining! Thank you

  • @tentenmedia
    @tentenmedia 7 років тому

    Awesome video!

  • @nicktune1219
    @nicktune1219 7 років тому +3

    Oh that classic boxer startup sound. Takes forever to turn over, then the idle is high. Especially in the cold. Then it stays there for another 30 seconds.

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 7 років тому +1

      nicktune1219
      Boxers aren't the only engine that sits at high revs on a cold start.

    • @nicktune1219
      @nicktune1219 7 років тому

      Scott Verge I know, but from my experience, boxer engines tend to idle higher when warming up for a longer duration of time compared to other cars that I have had (Toyota's, Honda's, BMWs, Volkswagens, Ford's).

    • @JTR253
      @JTR253 7 років тому

      nicktune1219 I've heard that you get heat earlier in the car. i only have a 97 accord to compare to and that took ten minutes of driving to get watm air. Of course, the honda didn't hard shift in the first and second gear like the subaru. I guess the mechanics might be different but both are 4 speeds.

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 7 років тому

      Ah ok.
      I haven't owned one but all my cars have taken a little while. But I am in Canada hahaha.

    • @thisoldnew4544
      @thisoldnew4544 6 років тому

      sounds like a rosie odonell queef

  • @fruit4569
    @fruit4569 7 років тому +12

    this engine is cooler then my pc😂

    • @nicktune1219
      @nicktune1219 7 років тому +3

      AMD ftw.

    • @fruit4569
      @fruit4569 7 років тому

      nicktune1219 Naa not a fan! I got nvidia and Intel but under load I get 45°C and that's not that bad

  • @waqarr.3177
    @waqarr.3177 7 років тому

    amazing video! Your videos are indeed insightful!

  • @DavidKindberg
    @DavidKindberg 7 років тому

    Awesome vid!

  • @leocelente
    @leocelente 7 років тому +141

    Come to Brazil! Here in Rio its about 30ºC most of the year. But last month it was a comfortable 46ºC.

    • @jrnascimento1448
      @jrnascimento1448 7 років тому +4

      Haha.... sá parada mesmo. Aqui no rio, você liga o carro, vai na padaria e volta e o eletro ventilador já fica funcionando na máxima kkkk. Aqui você tem que se preocupar em não derreter o motor de tanto calor. Não sei como esses caras aguentam tanto frio. Nego tá falando que -6 graus célsius e tranquilo pra eles rsrs.

    • @jacobspace
      @jacobspace 7 років тому +69

      No thanks, I don't have a death wish.

    • @theguythatcould
      @theguythatcould 7 років тому +30

      Leonardo Celente 0°c is comfortable. 46°c is hell.

    • @philpyung4831
      @philpyung4831 7 років тому +5

      Having no winter means you have much bigger problems with bugs.
      It's why the United States is further north.

    • @someone-wi4xl
      @someone-wi4xl 7 років тому +14

      poor Rio
      come to Arabian desert where it's 52-57c

  • @Project_Delusions
    @Project_Delusions 7 років тому +6

    Video on air cooled engines?

  • @kcwalkman
    @kcwalkman 7 років тому

    Great information Jason! Quite helpful. Thank you.

  • @CrHjEoVgEdLeLnE
    @CrHjEoVgEdLeLnE 7 років тому +1

    Excellent information man! This has always been a concern of mine because I'm a volunteer firefighter and I never get the opportunity to let my car warm up when I get a fire call.

  • @z1lla4
    @z1lla4 4 роки тому +3

    In my city "warming up" your car means anyone on the block can just hop in and help themselves to a free car. Some of you don't know how good you got it

  • @griffojm
    @griffojm 7 років тому +4

    Now that was just 7 minutes of idling. Driving the car (light on the throttle) would have warmed the engine much more quickly, especially with the hood down to trap heat.
    Great demonstration, as always. Love the channel.

  • @hawkeyestiguy
    @hawkeyestiguy 7 років тому +1

    Good video man! I usually let my car idle for about 10-15 mins while I get ready, but I also have a built engine & Pittsburgh is hilly, so there is significant load & high rpms on the engine as soon as I drive anywhere. If it's going to be really cold, then I usually plug in the block heater to speed things up.

  • @Ms.Fowlbwahhh
    @Ms.Fowlbwahhh 7 років тому

    I know this has probably been asked before but have you ever thought about getting a tv show? You are very easy going and very easy to pay attention to even when you get to the more "boring" parts in some videos(aka math and science) and that's a rare gift I think. I realize youtube is big but many older people would get into you if you had a tv show.

  • @nickharrison211
    @nickharrison211 7 років тому +101

    If you want your car to warm up faster, just floor it and hold it at redline or as high as the rev limiter will let you go! You're welcome :)

    • @crisissocoylike
      @crisissocoylike 7 років тому +28

      Nick Harrison only of you'll buy me new cars continuously ;)

    • @Unknown-pg4ko
      @Unknown-pg4ko 6 років тому +9

      OMG IT WORKED THANKS!

    • @Max200012
      @Max200012 6 років тому +35

      instructions not clear. Dick stuck in turbocharger

    • @Delta.Garage
      @Delta.Garage 6 років тому +4

      *damages valvetrain*

    • @Delta.Garage
      @Delta.Garage 6 років тому +1

      Enjoy only having like 10% of the power you used to before over revving it for like 2 mins ;)

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind 7 років тому +18

    At what temp does a battery actually freeze?

    • @johan.ohgren
      @johan.ohgren 7 років тому +2

      InsideOfMyOwnMind that depends on what kind of battery you are using as well as its condition and level of charge. There is no "set" level, it's all about circumstances.

    • @StopaskingformynameYouTube
      @StopaskingformynameYouTube 7 років тому +4

      Unless it's a battery from Biltema ( store in norway ) wich sell cheap rebranded batteries they should hold to temperatures lower than your oil will.
      I've had 3 100ah biltema batteries that all died on me over a total of two years.
      The last one is still half good tho, it'll start down to -10 but any colder and it'll need help from my battery booster.
      I even tried having the charger keep the battery toppet up, but the battery is just so poorly made that it won't react chemically at lower temperatures.
      Don't do as me, buy a propper battery that costs alot and replace it with a cheap one when selling the car so you keep it.

    • @valtterilatvanen9195
      @valtterilatvanen9195 7 років тому +3

      Depends on how much charge is on it. If it’s 100% charged it’s -67c or -89F. If it’s 50% charged it’s only -23c or -9F. This is based on the charge level of the worst cell in the battery.

    • @Toss942
      @Toss942 7 років тому +5

      If the Sulfuric Acid is mixed with water and you have something like 65% of Acid than is freezing at -64 C (-83,2F)

    • @kingkevin267
      @kingkevin267 7 років тому +10

      That depends on the charge of the battery. A full charged battery is basically filled with sulfuric acid, which as a really low freezing point. However due to the chemical reaction inside the battery, as it loses charge that acid converts to water. So a dead battery will freeze at 32f. You see it all the time, that is why most people have battery problems in the cold. As the batter gets older, that constant effect of acid, to water, then back to acid, starts to lose its effectiveness. At some point the water concentration inside the battery is high enough, that it freezes. Frozen water expands, and shatters the plates inside the battery. With out plates, the chemical reaction not longer happens, and you have a battery that will not start your car.

  • @bicycle697
    @bicycle697 7 років тому

    Great info! Thanks!

  • @Simple_mechanic_guy
    @Simple_mechanic_guy 6 років тому

    Thank You! As always : perfect vid'!

  • @briansmobile1
    @briansmobile1 7 років тому +8

    You live where it gets down to -40°C?
    0W synthetic, block heater, save the face muscles from freezing- move to Florida!

  • @HDeverythingSD
    @HDeverythingSD 7 років тому +8

    is it possible to do this test while you drive your car? start it up and wait 30 seconds then drive off, so we can get a comparison. maybe you can put the vehicle in a dyno

    • @450asg
      @450asg 6 років тому

      He should be able to do that, since the thermal camera shows tempratures. While driving the car, he could read of the gauge that shows engine temprature.

  • @VeryokayDIY
    @VeryokayDIY 7 років тому

    excellent video, thanks!

  • @paulwharton1850
    @paulwharton1850 7 років тому

    Very, very good. Most useful, thank you.

  • @MackDolo
    @MackDolo 7 років тому +56

    lol I'm still gonna let my car idle for 5+ mins

    • @Evil12monks
      @Evil12monks 4 роки тому +5

      I do the same thing. I like a warm car in winter.

    • @akhil1781
      @akhil1781 4 роки тому +9

      It's so satisfying to hear the rpm drop

    • @IMASTERgraal
      @IMASTERgraal 4 роки тому +1

      5min is way too much . 1-2mins are good

  • @dfw_motorrad1329
    @dfw_motorrad1329 7 років тому +6

    Point #4: No. Don't. I've lived here for a year now and it's miserable. I'd suggest Texas or Georgia or North Carolina or Tennessee. Really anywhere but Florida.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  7 років тому +1

      RyanRants Florida has some beautiful parts, just stay away from the giant theme parks! The Keys are one of the most amazing places on the planet.

    • @Marjuuu
      @Marjuuu 7 років тому

      RyanRants, I've lived here all my life what's bad about it?

    • @kirleyq1394
      @kirleyq1394 7 років тому

      That's sad to hear

    • @Motorcyclist32
      @Motorcyclist32 6 років тому

      greece is the best!

  • @clmbn05
    @clmbn05 7 років тому +1

    thanks for your videos!

  • @markavelino8386
    @markavelino8386 7 років тому

    your videos are unique and consistent

  • @kg4234
    @kg4234 7 років тому +88

    You need to change your motor mounts. Your engine is swaying hard 3:20

    • @steve7201
      @steve7201 7 років тому +5

      It's a brand new car.....

    • @TomDeWeerdt1
      @TomDeWeerdt1 7 років тому +31

      Look at the right side of the frame, you can see the thermal camera swaying, not the engine.

    • @kg4234
      @kg4234 7 років тому +4

      LifeAsSteve with very bad motor mounts

    • @ice44567
      @ice44567 7 років тому +7

      Not the mounts, it's his camera lol

    • @kg4234
      @kg4234 7 років тому +83

      tough crowd

  • @souravzzz
    @souravzzz 7 років тому +42

    Why does the engine RPM drop once it heats up?

    • @aldwinlacuesta15
      @aldwinlacuesta15 7 років тому +94

      newer generation cars automatically warms up a cold engine by increasing idle rpm. once it detects its warm enough, it will naturally drop to its normal idle.

    • @user-hk9yu5ew8q
      @user-hk9yu5ew8q 7 років тому +2

      same question

    • @skifree0
      @skifree0 7 років тому +24

      A lot of things. With thicker oil it may be more beneficial to run higher idle temps to keep oil pressure higher. Also on some newer cars they use higher rpm along with higher fuel ratios and even different injection profiles on cars with DI in order to heat up the catalyst faster and get emissions down.
      you don't have to wait for the rpms to die down before driving. just wait for 30s to a min and then drive the car lightly as what the video says.

    • @lamella64
      @lamella64 7 років тому +6

      to put it simply, the engine is trying to get some heat built up when it's not under load and when the engine is warm there's no need to keep such high RPMs so it drop's down to a more economic RPM.

    • @ShawnDickens
      @ShawnDickens 7 років тому +1

      there is more drag in a cold motor and fuel condenses quicker. between the two it causes the motor to need more rpm for smooth idle. This is the reason modern passenger motor run at such high temps over older motors, to gain effiecency.

  • @RobZee
    @RobZee 6 років тому

    This is a very interesting video! This gives a good idea on how long to warm up my car which I recently needed to do in this (cold to me) weather in Texas. I have been wanting a thermal gun, now I want thermal camera and this gives me more reason to get one!

  • @Jetsonn
    @Jetsonn Рік тому

    Thanks for this, man

  • @larryspiller15
    @larryspiller15 7 років тому +7

    at -40c your interior isnt going to warm up until you start driving, the engine at idle literally after 20 minutes still isnts warm enough to produce heat in the cabin but its good to drive though.

    • @lovelyxyz
      @lovelyxyz 5 років тому

      bruh turn on the heater

  • @MaxiBiscardi
    @MaxiBiscardi 7 років тому +3

    you can do a comparision video, letting the car warm up just 10 seconds and start driving it.. then compare how much is the difference in time..

    • @tox401
      @tox401 6 років тому

      it would reach full operating temperature over that period of time

  • @souldrinker7008
    @souldrinker7008 7 років тому

    Really interesting, thanks for making!

  • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
    @LessTalkMoreDelicious 7 років тому

    Very cool and interesting. Never seen a thermal cam engine warm up video before.

  • @olik136
    @olik136 7 років тому +6

    letting your car run to warm it up is actually illegal in Germany- as is driving around without a purpose- allthough I don't know of anyone getting an actual ticket (it would be 10€) for it- I got in trouble several times with my neighbours when I started the engine and scraped the ice of the window afterwards... all these laws are justified by saving the environment (alone in your driveway while the industrie ship prawns to the other side of the world to let them peel there for 4 cents less..)

    • @alinsebastian2707
      @alinsebastian2707 7 років тому +5

      Oli K that sound like shitty law there, no offence

    • @icenine135
      @icenine135 7 років тому

      Oli K wow your neighbors ratted on you for scraping ice? That's sad, guess my uncle wasn't lying.

    • @MaximumEfficiency
      @MaximumEfficiency 7 років тому

      I guess it was designed more for delivery vans than cars.

    • @larry8065
      @larry8065 7 років тому

      What about trucks?

    • @olik136
      @olik136 7 років тому

      the law speaks of "unnecessary exhaust gas pollution" does not matter what vehicle it is- but as I said it is not a very strictly enforced law and it only would cost you 10€

  • @mentaldan666
    @mentaldan666 7 років тому +127

    Super cool video, but am I the only one that thinks 1800 RPM is pretty high? Lol. I've been a technician for 15 years, and not sure i've ever seen any vehicle idle that high from cold!

    • @hasani2555
      @hasani2555 7 років тому +45

      Dan iel boxer engine naturally idle high on a cold start up

    • @hasani2555
      @hasani2555 7 років тому +3

      Dan iel boxer engines naturally idle high on a cold start up

    • @Airhan15
      @Airhan15 6 років тому +12

      It's because it is a PZEV. The engine revs higher to warm up faster to minimize emissions.

    • @warwickstingray
      @warwickstingray 6 років тому +25

      A technician? Really? People avoid this individual at all costs!!

    • @Wigwhom86
      @Wigwhom86 6 років тому +2

      Certainly not not normal. Ive seen a handful myself that idled around 2k in gear...its like launch control when you let off lol. Mainly older camrys and a fiat

  • @McWrisk
    @McWrisk 7 років тому

    Haha well this is a good video. Last week where I live it was -39C in the morning -50C wind chill. I have a Honda Accord with 0W-20 full synthetic. Cold weather... Part of the Canadian Experience today however it is -3C so yea that happened. Nice video!

  • @n0f3aR629
    @n0f3aR629 7 років тому +2

    Respect for adding C and F !

  • @S13Egg
    @S13Egg 7 років тому +6

    before driving I always wait 30 after engine start before setting off

    • @DeadlyVoltsHD
      @DeadlyVoltsHD 6 років тому +2

      Incolder carburetor cars this is needed but in modern cars the computer just dumps extra fuel in to get the car to run normal but I still wait at least 2 minutes for my oil to circulate I can hear the engine knock when it's cold

    • @justforever96
      @justforever96 6 років тому +1

      That's a lot better than just driving away. Really, the most important thing is to just give the oil a chance to circulate, which actually only takes a few seconds, or your engine wouldn't last long. However its still very thick and gooey, so drive as gently as you can, don't go over 2,000rpm, no full throttle, for a few minutes. It's not actually that much different from just letting it sit. Letting it sit for 10mins until it's totally warm is not necessary...but if you want a working heater you'd better!

    • @erikk77
      @erikk77 5 років тому

      30 what?

    • @iannickCZ
      @iannickCZ 5 років тому

      @@erikk77 30 years.

  • @YI666IY
    @YI666IY 7 років тому +52

    Ist der Motor kalt, gib ihm 6 1/2

    • @Dullias
      @Dullias 7 років тому +1

      YI666IY jawohl

    • @andrewbartleman9169
      @andrewbartleman9169 6 років тому +2

      YI666IY wankel fritz snitzel Schwartz

    • @eltontv6002
      @eltontv6002 6 років тому +5

      ist er nicht zufrieden gib ihm 7

    •  6 років тому +2

      Ist der Motor warm, kannst ihn am Begrenzer fahrn

    • @leons1909
      @leons1909 5 років тому +1

      Stand er übernacht, gib' ihm 8

  • @froilanalcasabas1073
    @froilanalcasabas1073 2 роки тому

    Wow thanks! I have a Subaru Forester 2014 with FB20 engine NA as well. Here in the Philippines its so hot because of our tropical climate.. Anyways thru your video I've finally confirmed that AC temp must be on lowest because of the heat core. Makes me save gas and compressor is opening less intermittently.. Also learned that no need to wait until blue light turns off on the gauge.. Thanks

  • @peterseinfeld
    @peterseinfeld 7 років тому

    I don't get why people dislike your videos. You do an awesome job explaining and it's always on super interesting topics. I guess haters gonna hate .

  • @sviliuss
    @sviliuss 7 років тому +3

    guys, i have 1g-fe 2.0 liter car, it's strange but why doesn't it have this cold start algorithm of some sorts? No matter what temperature it is outside, no matter if engine is cold, it starts and idles on 900 rpm every time, does anybody have an explanation? All other cars i can see that they idle at 1500-1900 rpm until it heats up.

    • @sviliuss
      @sviliuss 7 років тому

      sorry didn't mentioned it, it is a gasoline engine

    • @GymChess
      @GymChess 7 років тому

      Well, if everything works well what's the problem? My car starts up around 1000 or so rpm as well (pterol engine).

    • @Sharky144
      @Sharky144 7 років тому

      This Toyota engine was introduced in 1988, so I guess there is no higher idle RPM within lower temperature regions.

    • @yassinvnoord
      @yassinvnoord 6 років тому

      Vilius.S also depends on the car

  • @NeoVoodooTech
    @NeoVoodooTech 7 років тому +4

    I live in Florida. Don't do it. It's a trap.

  • @dayrack
    @dayrack 7 років тому

    my neighbor warms up his work truck in the morning by starting it up and then just starting to rev it up, great idea hahaha

  • @BluePhantom321
    @BluePhantom321 7 років тому +6

    interesting.. interesting..🤔