@@LovelySoftSnow Wish people understood this. It’s exactly why Lost and T. Lost can be so hard. You _will_ get hit sometimes no matter how good you are/get at the game. It just genuinely unavoidable sometimes.
your take on birthright being like an extra holy card on alt lost is absolutely bizarre - "its not gonna save your run' holy cards literally save runs so often as alt lost. birthright isnt merely just like finding a holy card on the floor; its like finding a holy card that automatically activates that you can hold alongside a holy card - the difference between being able to take 2 and 3 hits is huge for long boss fights because its literally just more survivability; which is kinda one of the reasons i think alt lost is easier than regular lost for long fights; since you can have the holy card shield while holding a holy card too compared to regular lost whos holy card chance is far lower
Heavily disagree with T.Lost, the extra hit is huge for late game fights and it allowed me to get quite a few marks because of it. And it doesn't even make sense you ranking Keeper in A for the exact same reason (survivability against late bosses) and then putting T.Lost, the most fragile character in the game in D tier. Anyways, loved the video. I recently picked up Isaac again for the 2nd file Dead God and I'm really enjoying your channel.
Oh, and you're right that finding a Holy card is a bit better. But guess what? Holy cards on T.Lost are crazy good, so an effect that resembles it (and can be stacked!) should be ranked higher imo.
That's also what I thought, t.lost birthright is supposed to be preserved until a last boss such as Mother/The beast/Delirium, when it takes a long time to kill them and so you're more at risk to get hit even if your build is lazymattman tier
Man, I really hate the argument "if you're good you don't get hit", because it's just blatantly false. Even people who play Isaac for a living and are exceptionally good at the game still get hit.
The problem with tlost is that most of your deaths arent reallt due to a skill issue like it is with characters with.. health.. where you can afford to stomach situations where you're basically guaranteed to get hit; you cant evaluate tlost revives the same way you evaluate revives on other characters
I definitely understand the mindset of why T. Lost's Birthright would be put so low, but I think something you didn't consider is that usually stuff that gives you extra lives like the 9-lives item you mentioned boot you out of the room when they happen, and while that might be good to guarantee you aren't dogpiled by enemies when you respawn that also means all your progress on the boss is reset. An extra life that brings you back to continue a boss where you left off, especially when you have at most three hits before you die, is a lot more valuable than I think you give it credit for.
blue baby birthright in F is a crime, health is one of the biggest issues with blue baby so doubling all health gained from health ups is actually huge
Yeah that opinion is nuts, you get heart containers off the boss pool constantly, and tinted rocks are far less common nowadays. Before the nerf you could easily have enough health at all times. Not anymore.
I've only gotten Tainted Bethany's Birthright once, and it gave me Ipecac, Spirit Sword, Rubber Cement and Lead Pencil which all synergised in such a specific way to make sure it'd kill me. Guppy's Collar revived me five times that run and I still lost.
Remember that you can kill the wisps by yourself, using fire, for example, with fire, and if you do it carefully, you can destroy one specific item that destroys your synergy
Maggy birthright is insane. Should be in B tier at least. Red health is so exploitable and having 6 extra heart containers basically guarantees a win, not to mention it gets a lot easier to maintain your soul hearts with high amounts of red health. Samson's is crazy as well. The damage from it is enough to carry an entire run and there are so many ways of getting a lot of red hearts, including the trinket he starts with
I disagree with the existence of F tier. Even for the Blue Baby variants, the effects do something, they don't do nothing, nor do they make a run worse than it was before. And even for the most gamers of gamers, Blue Baby's bonus HP from birthright is nice, it gives more wiggle room, something that no one would turn down and something that you'd even crave if you have an explosive run. Otherwise, I could also argue that Tainted Eden deserves higher. When you find birthright and you have a bad build, you can just find a fire and reroll your current build until you find something strong.
That's player specific, but chances are that if you know how to deal with and use Dark Esau, you can do just as well with 2 of them. And if you can do that you have double the power. I can't speak from experience because I have only 2 marks on Tainted Jacob. (Beating it lives and beating boss rush)
i feel you are SEVERELY underrating t blue baby's birthright, his poops are fucking insane and if played right his damage output can be brutal. it has a definite learning curve and even after getting all his marks i know that i'm still not very good at playing him but his potential cannot be ignored and putting his birthright in f tier is criminal
I think you put down Maggie’s birthright as it helps with abusing donation machines, sacrifice rooms, devil beggars, pound of flesh. Practically anything that requires extra health to benefit from can be used way more.
Yeah, the mistake author made, is that after ressurection, Laz's hp didn't setup at 1, it just get lowered by 1. So, cause most of the time Laz uses it to abuse devil's deals, it's not so entertaining, but fight with Delirium obviously gets better, which is good.
birthright is amazing on bethany if you've hoarded soul hearts until you found a red key or something, it effectively increases the amount you already gathered
Putting BB's in F is criminal, especially with his devil deal buffs. It's kinda crazy how many red heart containers you can get per run, so having that many more soul hearts to work with is very valuable. Yeah, it's not flashy nor broken like some other birthrights, but being able to turn a Breakfast into a Brimstone with his conversion rates is not something to scoff at, especially in runs with binge eater. Tl:dr; health is the most valuable resource, this gives you a lot more of it for a character that usually struggles with a lack of it. C-tier, minimum.
47:51 T. Lost runs aren’t lost because of bad builds, it’s because YOU HAVE NO HEALTH. Don’t have to flex your youtuber powers. Also here’s an idea for ???’s birthright that you consider bad. Blue baby: “Asphyxiate” Enemies hit by your tears will gain an effect called Asphyxiation. Asphyxiation will first gradually slow the enemy, then apply confusion, then start dealing rapid damage.
i mean, theres a reason itd be considered bad i love the concept, its really unique, but also you fail to specify how long itd take for the damage to kick in, how much damage, etc, and if its too long, youre probably killing enemies by then i think it could be played around with, chances for it to proc and defined timers/damage amounts, but overall i feel like it doesnt work too well overall
T. Blue baby did not deserve F tier, I am often in the situation of holding onto poops because I have a butt bomb in my lineup I need to keep in case I need bombs or something like that, and hold has multiple applications besides just holding bombs, so oftentimes my hold isn't free to place a different poop in. Expanding the range by almost like, three times or something, basically guarantees that you'll always have at least one of every poop no problem, with a good chance including holy poops. You're basically guaranteed the combo of creep + holy poop for almost any boss fight without having to hold either of those, saving your hold for bombs. There's a lot of applications and I'm so shocked it got placed in literal F tier
cain's birthright also increases your gambling luck even more, stacking with the starting lucky foot, it's basically like having a second and upgraded lucky foot in a sense
"The birthright is good, but it won't win you the run. You still need to find the items or luck to make it work." That's the story of Isaac, baby. Just with most other items or synergies. This game is all about items interacting with items to make busted builds. ALSO, I strongly agree that playing T. Cain without external item description on is the CORRECT way to play the game. He's not like what he used to be or Spindown Dice, where it's always guaranteed to obtain the same items every run if only you remembered how the game works. The point of him is that you don't know what items you will craft because it's a different crafting recipe every run (except for a few easy to remember recipes), but you can change the likelihood of finding certain catagories of items with the pickups you put in - like runes = planetariums, black hearts = devil deals, etc etc.
Samson in D is fucking criminal. This will literally carry you through an entire run. If youre not holding onto an IV bag in every samson run youre playing him wrong.
But you have to take so much damage to get that dmg up. And on womb and further you have to take 10 hearts of damage. And somehow regain that health back, and it's pretty hard
@@mcsimik3654 Hearts are common, and there's a lot of ways to damage yourself that you can recover from. 14 damage even just for the first 6 floors is still insane.
you wont find an iv bag every run, sadly, and you wont have the health for it all the time either you can run into enemies or hazards but especially when youre at the point of taking full hearts of damage it kind of falls off as a whole hard mode deletes hearts 1/3 of the time and while if youve beat ultra hard you have child's heart for more red hearts, youve still beat ultra hard which means you probably dont need to rely on bloody lust to begin with on samson
@@Toumsters You can guarantee an IV bag in a majority of your runs. If you don't, then you're getting blood bags, which means you've got hefty amounts of red hp. I still use devil beggars and blood machines in womb+ in my runs to get bloody lust up and it works fine. A full heart of damage is bad, but the damage bloody lust gives you is still insane. It falls off, yes, but it's not bad. Furthermore, by that point, your damage has either made the rest of the run smooth sailing, or it has literally saved your run from death. Bloody lust isn't something you rely on, it's something you abuse to make your runs easy and consistent.
Hard disagree with Tainted Lost's ranking. That birthright has saved me so many times. I died to Ultra Greedier at the end of the fight when I did the killing blow but because I had birthright, I revived and got the achievement. Even excluding that, getting to stay in the boss room for say Hush or Delirium is extremely handy as getting kicked out is really bad from the other revives.
In defense of Apollyon, I had a run once with Birthright and Car Battery. Every time the Birthright procc'd, the second activation would eat the item that spawned and give me free stats. I got enough bonus stats that I was destroying the game by the Womb. Not saying that makes the effect good, but I do love how even extremely niche items can be broken with the right combo sometimes.
You're misunderstanding how Blue Baby's works. It doesn't give you 1 additional soul heart on top of what you get, it converts each red heart container into double the soul hearts. It turns all health upgrades into double their worth.
@@CartoDarko It's literally not what he said, which is more confusing because, yeah, he counted the hearts after raw liver and still was describing what the birthright effect does wrong.
He was wrong about how it works but it still doesn't make it much better. There are very few items that give more than 1 red heart container, and some of the ones that do (like Bucket of Lard and Jupiter) would be questionable pickups regardless. I think the only others aside from those are Raw Liver and The Body.
the lazarus birthright is good because if you DO die, you're low on HP and you need a damage boost to survive, if you have rock bottom, it's permanent, which makes it better.
A note for the keeper birthright is that if you go into the knife piece 2 room it disables birthright (obviously) and then doesn’t give the heart back after. I found this out because it killed me
As far as we can see, you used the crane game a minimum of 18 times without getting an item. The chances of you rolling the 75% chance to not get it 18 times in a row is (if my math is correct) 0.56% chance or about a 1/180 chance of occuring
ideas for birthrights i want changed -eve (Murder) spawn 6 crows while on curse -jacob and esau (brotherly rivalry) when jacob kills an enemy, esau gains .75 damage for the room, and when esau kills an enemy jacob gains .25 luck and over cap tears, stacks 6 times
Judas's Birthright is one of the coolest item effects in the game IMO, and the fact that it even stacks with the Book of Virtues if you have both is so sick.
eves birthright is straight s tier if you ask me because curse of babylon on eve doesnt just do the normal effect it does for other characters, eve actually has a permanent 0.75x damage multiplier unless it is active so not having to carry razor blade and play around your hp just to have *normal damage* is so fucking good
I agree with the Esau Birthright, it literally doubles the output of the unique mechanic T. Jacob has, how could it be anything but one of the best ones?
I don't typically like to double comment so I'll include this as a response to my first: No h8 but looking at eve's br as just a stat boost and haunt feels like a downer pov. U are not wrong and in fact I mostly agree but I think the true shine of eve's br is that it removes conditionality - which methinks is the point of br, it should feel like it mitigates the poopoo aspects of the character in question
you forgot to mention in the video but you can use birthright forgotten to get back into a devil deal or angel room after seeing them on the floor. got into the devil and saw brim in there but you don't have the health? leave the skeleton in there and go min max for hearts got into angel but forgot to get a bomb for the key piece? birthright got you covered
p.s: tainted maggie is f because the non draining health counts towards deals, the draining ones don't. you've now reduced your soul heart capacity by one for no reason!
Fun synergy you might have not known for Judas's birthright, if you use Alabastors Box, It spawns 3 Black Hearts and 2 Devil Items (and if you took an angel its two Black Hearts and one Devil Item).
I remember I commented recommending this way back on a community post and you responded say you would add it to the list. Now it is a video. Nice work Matt 😎
Maybe a bit strong but I feel like tainted maggy's birthright could've done something like giving you wafer effect outright or even just the cancer effect (so it'd be like a red heart version of cancer essentially) so it synergizes with maggy's gimmick as its kinda hard to use her gimmick in later floors due to taking a whole heart of damage compared to earlier floors
A couple of other things about tlaz birthright: Things like rune bag or chad become a lot better since they're always active, and because of flip letting you see more shop items, you have a way higher chance of seeing it.
The t.lost take is fucking terrible I’m sorry. A extra hit for a character that does in one bit is huge. It helps mitigates bullshit by a decent bit, and with t.lost you need everything you can get.
35:20 That was the original effect- it was just the same as getting Car Battery, so they replaced it with the current one. Probably part of why people don't appreciate it: same reason they still think Betrayal is a bad item.
Not true, originally T. Judas' Birthright was bugged and did nothing (even after all the unfinished Birthrights were implemented), and people theorized that it was supposed to increase the duration just based off the description. It never actually did, though.
I love t. Lost's birthright for me specifically, because whenever I play t. Lost, I typically get 1 to 2 holy cards for the whole run. And in my 1st dead god doing t. Lost to delirium, the only reason why I didnt get fucked over by delirium was birthright giving me that one extra chance.
I would bump some down a bit but overall I agree. Personally, I'd like to see a mechanic where you can start with Birthright for one run. Perhaps after Dead God is unlocked and you win 10 runs in a row. That or something akin to Death Certificate but instead of you getting that item now you are guaranteed to get it in the next run.
I would personally put blue baby's higher because i am ridiculously unlucky. I rarely ever get health ups and tinted rocks with blue baby so the extra health is pretty nice
Eve's birthright is insane, *especially* if you have not dropped razorblade yet, because red heart Eve builds are far more crazy than people expect because normally she has to get rid of them asap. I had a binge eater/birthright/razorblade Eve and you'd think with how broken it was that I would have had every damage up in the game
1:46 this tells you that always runs are staged because he forgot to cut out his voice telling Isaac to go down the trapdoor. This tells you that he's not playing a game but filming a movie
T. Azazel birthright should be at least an S You can use it more constantly as a defense mechanism since it can reflect enemy tears. With enough tears, you can be untouched by projectiles
Blue baby birthright rework i thought of: Any Red hearts or half red hearts are replaced with soul hearts And gain 2 extra blue flies for breaking poops
if you get brimstone on azazel and his birthright it also gives you a thicccc brimstone beam (i like azazels birthright cause it looks cool but it does nothing lmao agree with you there) also petition for tainted lost's birthright to at least give you a holy card when you revive
Actually, eve’s dmg multiplier is only 0.75 w/out whore of babylon, but with it active it goes back to x1. This means you gain a passive +0.25 multiplier to ur dmg
I never encountered this synergy myself, but if I understand correctly, with 9 volts and t. jacob birthright, you just can hold dark esaus chained for eternity however I didn't actually pay attention if 9 volts work the same with pocket actives, so correct me if I'm wrong here
Now I hate tainted blue baby as much as the next guy, but his birthright doesn't deserve F. I'd say D or C, because early game his poop can make up for the lack of damage, and they have various beneficial effects and utilities. I've had many runs on him where I couldn't carry any more and I'm leaving behind droves of poop pickups each floor, and tripling his carrying capacity increases his potential by a good margin. Not great, but not terrible
Personally, I'd interchange Apollyon and Blue Baby. With Blue Baby, at least the effect is permanent and increases your survivability. With Apollyon, not only is the effect super rare but if you don't already have Void, Birthright does absolutely nothing, which is unacceptable.
keeper birthright s++ cus you get 1 penny (thats alot of money)
Sorry to ruin your 69 likes
TRUUU
That's a lot of fucking money
Greed = Good
Le gspa! That's alot of mon knee
47:52 You don't lose T. Lost runs because your build is bad. You lose them because you die in one hit.
You lose from jank instead of skill issues.
Yeah getting telefragged by Delirium is a real "skill issue" lol
That made me so mad lmao
@@LovelySoftSnow Wish people understood this. It’s exactly why Lost and T. Lost can be so hard. You _will_ get hit sometimes no matter how good you are/get at the game. It just genuinely unavoidable sometimes.
Getting cornered into a wall with flames against anything with boss armour with my burst damage build
JUST. BEFORE. HUSH.
your take on birthright being like an extra holy card on alt lost is absolutely bizarre - "its not gonna save your run' holy cards literally save runs so often as alt lost. birthright isnt merely just like finding a holy card on the floor; its like finding a holy card that automatically activates that you can hold alongside a holy card - the difference between being able to take 2 and 3 hits is huge for long boss fights because its literally just more survivability; which is kinda one of the reasons i think alt lost is easier than regular lost for long fights; since you can have the holy card shield while holding a holy card too compared to regular lost whos holy card chance is far lower
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@@sillypinkmoth quality 0 video game rips
Honestly: I'd rather find a holy card in the shop than birth right.
The amount of times blank card + holding a holy card saved me is insane
Heavily disagree with T.Lost, the extra hit is huge for late game fights and it allowed me to get quite a few marks because of it. And it doesn't even make sense you ranking Keeper in A for the exact same reason (survivability against late bosses) and then putting T.Lost, the most fragile character in the game in D tier.
Anyways, loved the video. I recently picked up Isaac again for the 2nd file Dead God and I'm really enjoying your channel.
Oh, and you're right that finding a Holy card is a bit better. But guess what? Holy cards on T.Lost are crazy good, so an effect that resembles it (and can be stacked!) should be ranked higher imo.
That's also what I thought, t.lost birthright is supposed to be preserved until a last boss such as Mother/The beast/Delirium, when it takes a long time to kill them and so you're more at risk to get hit even if your build is lazymattman tier
@@naegi3392nice 😂
Man, I really hate the argument "if you're good you don't get hit", because it's just blatantly false.
Even people who play Isaac for a living and are exceptionally good at the game still get hit.
Tainted Lost Birthright won me my run. D tier is a crime, especially without a lot of holy cards.
Same, it won me my mega Satan run.
The problem with tlost is that most of your deaths arent reallt due to a skill issue like it is with characters with.. health.. where you can afford to stomach situations where you're basically guaranteed to get hit; you cant evaluate tlost revives the same way you evaluate revives on other characters
@@coolyoshiluigi99 skill issue
@@raracabra dont think something like delirium telefragging is a skill issue but alr
@@Toumstersme when I get telefraged by delirium losing a tlost run because I didn’t get a holy card (I was unlucky)
Me when they drop a spiked chest on my head 😐
@@DausBugaboosadge
I definitely understand the mindset of why T. Lost's Birthright would be put so low, but I think something you didn't consider is that usually stuff that gives you extra lives like the 9-lives item you mentioned boot you out of the room when they happen, and while that might be good to guarantee you aren't dogpiled by enemies when you respawn that also means all your progress on the boss is reset. An extra life that brings you back to continue a boss where you left off, especially when you have at most three hits before you die, is a lot more valuable than I think you give it credit for.
And even if you do get dogpiled by enemies, they're all gonna die before they can do anything to you.
tainted lost cant get any other revives
@@raracabra Unless you have Spindown Dice
The thing is that, if you have a luck build with perfection, it becomes useless because no more perfection
@@yitraboom I would rather have another life and lose perfection on revival than just die though
blue baby birthright in F is a crime, health is one of the biggest issues with blue baby so doubling all health gained from health ups is actually huge
Yeah that opinion is nuts, you get heart containers off the boss pool constantly, and tinted rocks are far less common nowadays. Before the nerf you could easily have enough health at all times. Not anymore.
Yeah, I agree. It should have at least been in D tier.
that crane game physically hurts
Never gamble kids
1/4 chance MY ASS
i swear i've spent 85 coins on a crane once for one of the tech items and it didn't give me it
Awe dangit!
Literally today I spent 80 coins and it paid once
You can easily tell this man has never mastered T??? to realise the extreme potential of his birthright.
Enlighten me because i dont see It
@@mattdragon1253 his real power is in comboing his creep trail with the status effect poops. His birthright gives you even more combo opportunity.
I've only gotten Tainted Bethany's Birthright once, and it gave me Ipecac, Spirit Sword, Rubber Cement and Lead Pencil which all synergised in such a specific way to make sure it'd kill me. Guppy's Collar revived me five times that run and I still lost.
F. The one time I got Birthright as tainted Bethany, I got rock bottom and sacred heart (don't remember the other 2)
Remember that you can kill the wisps by yourself, using fire, for example, with fire, and if you do it carefully, you can destroy one specific item that destroys your synergy
@@gentozik That doesn't work I'm pretty sure
Ouch. I can feel your pain through your own comment and I can say that with all my heart… *ouch.*
Maggy birthright is insane. Should be in B tier at least. Red health is so exploitable and having 6 extra heart containers basically guarantees a win, not to mention it gets a lot easier to maintain your soul hearts with high amounts of red health. Samson's is crazy as well. The damage from it is enough to carry an entire run and there are so many ways of getting a lot of red hearts, including the trinket he starts with
For the maggy the fact is that is pretty rare that you will need 6 extra hearts
3:38 least rigged crane game
you just gotta believe 🙏
3:38 and 27:45 are polar opposites
literal 1% change for 15 fails in a row
I disagree with the existence of F tier. Even for the Blue Baby variants, the effects do something, they don't do nothing, nor do they make a run worse than it was before.
And even for the most gamers of gamers, Blue Baby's bonus HP from birthright is nice, it gives more wiggle room, something that no one would turn down and something that you'd even crave if you have an explosive run.
Otherwise, I could also argue that Tainted Eden deserves higher. When you find birthright and you have a bad build, you can just find a fire and reroll your current build until you find something strong.
i think the only one close to F tier would be tainted jacob's and even then i dont actually know if its secretly incredible
That's player specific, but chances are that if you know how to deal with and use Dark Esau, you can do just as well with 2 of them. And if you can do that you have double the power. I can't speak from experience because I have only 2 marks on Tainted Jacob. (Beating it lives and beating boss rush)
i feel you are SEVERELY underrating t blue baby's birthright, his poops are fucking insane and if played right his damage output can be brutal. it has a definite learning curve and even after getting all his marks i know that i'm still not very good at playing him but his potential cannot be ignored and putting his birthright in f tier is criminal
I think you put down Maggie’s birthright as it helps with abusing donation machines, sacrifice rooms, devil beggars, pound of flesh. Practically anything that requires extra health to benefit from can be used way more.
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Laz birthright is so good tf, its just an added bonus to something you're always gonna do
Yeah, the mistake author made, is that after ressurection, Laz's hp didn't setup at 1, it just get lowered by 1. So, cause most of the time Laz uses it to abuse devil's deals, it's not so entertaining, but fight with Delirium obviously gets better, which is good.
birthright is amazing on bethany if you've hoarded soul hearts until you found a red key or something, it effectively increases the amount you already gathered
thank you for saying it, i broke the game so many times with bethany's birthright it litterally hurt me to see it beside maggy's one
@@yonas136 maggy's is underrated as well
Also, d6
Putting BB's in F is criminal, especially with his devil deal buffs.
It's kinda crazy how many red heart containers you can get per run, so having that many more soul hearts to work with is very valuable. Yeah, it's not flashy nor broken like some other birthrights, but being able to turn a Breakfast into a Brimstone with his conversion rates is not something to scoff at, especially in runs with binge eater.
Tl:dr; health is the most valuable resource, this gives you a lot more of it for a character that usually struggles with a lack of it. C-tier, minimum.
27:33 another matt casualy flexing his youtuber luck by getting 1/2048 chance of using item for free for 11 TIMES
I was thinking the same
Math does not work like that
47:51 T. Lost runs aren’t lost because of bad builds, it’s because YOU HAVE NO HEALTH. Don’t have to flex your youtuber powers.
Also here’s an idea for ???’s birthright that you consider bad.
Blue baby: “Asphyxiate”
Enemies hit by your tears will gain an effect called Asphyxiation. Asphyxiation will first gradually slow the enemy, then apply confusion, then start dealing rapid damage.
Dark. I like it
i mean, theres a reason itd be considered bad
i love the concept, its really unique, but also you fail to specify how long itd take for the damage to kick in, how much damage, etc, and if its too long, youre probably killing enemies by then
i think it could be played around with, chances for it to proc and defined timers/damage amounts, but overall i feel like it doesnt work too well overall
T. Blue baby did not deserve F tier, I am often in the situation of holding onto poops because I have a butt bomb in my lineup I need to keep in case I need bombs or something like that, and hold has multiple applications besides just holding bombs, so oftentimes my hold isn't free to place a different poop in. Expanding the range by almost like, three times or something, basically guarantees that you'll always have at least one of every poop no problem, with a good chance including holy poops. You're basically guaranteed the combo of creep + holy poop for almost any boss fight without having to hold either of those, saving your hold for bombs. There's a lot of applications and I'm so shocked it got placed in literal F tier
cain's birthright also increases your gambling luck even more, stacking with the starting lucky foot, it's basically like having a second and upgraded lucky foot in a sense
As someone who know's nothing about the binding of isaac, I still know nothing about the binding of isaac!
14:44 Never seen a Queen of Hearts not fully heal a character with 2HP
"The birthright is good, but it won't win you the run. You still need to find the items or luck to make it work." That's the story of Isaac, baby. Just with most other items or synergies. This game is all about items interacting with items to make busted builds.
ALSO, I strongly agree that playing T. Cain without external item description on is the CORRECT way to play the game. He's not like what he used to be or Spindown Dice, where it's always guaranteed to obtain the same items every run if only you remembered how the game works. The point of him is that you don't know what items you will craft because it's a different crafting recipe every run (except for a few easy to remember recipes), but you can change the likelihood of finding certain catagories of items with the pickups you put in - like runes = planetariums, black hearts = devil deals, etc etc.
Except for the knife. You can literally just pick the knife up and beat the game without picking up a single other item
Matt trying not to Say "fellas" for more than 1 minute Is apparently the challenge that he'll never beat
Samson in D is fucking criminal. This will literally carry you through an entire run. If youre not holding onto an IV bag in every samson run youre playing him wrong.
IKR like double blood lust damage in the same tier as azazel had me punch the air
But you have to take so much damage to get that dmg up. And on womb and further you have to take 10 hearts of damage. And somehow regain that health back, and it's pretty hard
@@mcsimik3654 Hearts are common, and there's a lot of ways to damage yourself that you can recover from. 14 damage even just for the first 6 floors is still insane.
you wont find an iv bag every run, sadly, and you wont have the health for it all the time either
you can run into enemies or hazards but especially when youre at the point of taking full hearts of damage it kind of falls off as a whole
hard mode deletes hearts 1/3 of the time and while if youve beat ultra hard you have child's heart for more red hearts, youve still beat ultra hard which means you probably dont need to rely on bloody lust to begin with on samson
@@Toumsters You can guarantee an IV bag in a majority of your runs. If you don't, then you're getting blood bags, which means you've got hefty amounts of red hp. I still use devil beggars and blood machines in womb+ in my runs to get bloody lust up and it works fine. A full heart of damage is bad, but the damage bloody lust gives you is still insane. It falls off, yes, but it's not bad.
Furthermore, by that point, your damage has either made the rest of the run smooth sailing, or it has literally saved your run from death.
Bloody lust isn't something you rely on, it's something you abuse to make your runs easy and consistent.
so many L takes in this video QWQ
it feels like he's gotta remember not everyone is insanely lucky in this game 😭
With ???'s birthright, it turns converter into a 3 room heal, since the red heart it gives turns into 2 soul hearts
Hard disagree with Tainted Lost's ranking. That birthright has saved me so many times. I died to Ultra Greedier at the end of the fight when I did the killing blow but because I had birthright, I revived and got the achievement. Even excluding that, getting to stay in the boss room for say Hush or Delirium is extremely handy as getting kicked out is really bad from the other revives.
Bro why you shame isaac players who aren't mega good at the game??? Let people be duh
In defense of Apollyon, I had a run once with Birthright and Car Battery. Every time the Birthright procc'd, the second activation would eat the item that spawned and give me free stats. I got enough bonus stats that I was destroying the game by the Womb.
Not saying that makes the effect good, but I do love how even extremely niche items can be broken with the right combo sometimes.
You're misunderstanding how Blue Baby's works. It doesn't give you 1 additional soul heart on top of what you get, it converts each red heart container into double the soul hearts. It turns all health upgrades into double their worth.
He knows
@@Sans_lol. Not according to this video, since he said how it works wrong for the entire entry.
that is what he said? shown by him picking up raw liver and getting 4 soul hearts
@@CartoDarko It's literally not what he said, which is more confusing because, yeah, he counted the hearts after raw liver and still was describing what the birthright effect does wrong.
He was wrong about how it works but it still doesn't make it much better. There are very few items that give more than 1 red heart container, and some of the ones that do (like Bucket of Lard and Jupiter) would be questionable pickups regardless. I think the only others aside from those are Raw Liver and The Body.
the lazarus birthright is good because if you DO die, you're low on HP and you need a damage boost to survive, if you have rock bottom, it's permanent, which makes it better.
A note for the keeper birthright is that if you go into the knife piece 2 room it disables birthright (obviously) and then doesn’t give the heart back after. I found this out because it killed me
Hate that fucking knife piece 2 area so much
As far as we can see, you used the crane game a minimum of 18 times without getting an item. The chances of you rolling the 75% chance to not get it 18 times in a row is (if my math is correct) 0.56% chance or about a 1/180 chance of occuring
ideas for birthrights i want changed
-eve (Murder)
spawn 6 crows while on curse
-jacob and esau (brotherly rivalry)
when jacob kills an enemy, esau gains .75 damage for the room, and when esau kills an enemy jacob gains .25 luck and over cap tears, stacks 6 times
17:10 foursouls came before repentance, so its probably referencing the card
Dude blue baby is atleast high a tier. Don't dog on my boy
It's a skill issue
By your logic then everything should be in S++ Tier since with enough skill you can make anything work
How does disliking an item that gives *more health* a skill issue
So satisfying that the 7 first charaters get each a different tier.
The tainted characters also did that!
Womb eviction opposite of left tier list
HUH
Thanks for the background noise while I drew a thumbnail
So happy to see someone else who genuinely appreciates what T apollyons birthright brings to the table
Judas's Birthright is one of the coolest item effects in the game IMO, and the fact that it even stacks with the Book of Virtues if you have both is so sick.
Your reasoning is really inconsistent
Found someone saying this finally
Hot take for Azazel's: Range ups lowkey become insane assuming you don't come across brimstone
Wait, doesn't dying as Lazarus just decrease your max HP by one? Does it also lower your current HP to 1?
eves birthright is straight s tier if you ask me because curse of babylon on eve doesnt just do the normal effect it does for other characters, eve actually has a permanent 0.75x damage multiplier unless it is active so not having to carry razor blade and play around your hp just to have *normal damage* is so fucking good
I agree with the Esau Birthright, it literally doubles the output of the unique mechanic T. Jacob has, how could it be anything but one of the best ones?
Why do my friends who don't have Dead God get mad at me when I say this :(
It’s good, dark Esau isn’t hard to control if you take a minute to learn him.
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I don't typically like to double comment so I'll include this as a response to my first:
No h8 but looking at eve's br as just a stat boost and haunt feels like a downer pov. U are not wrong and in fact I mostly agree but I think the true shine of eve's br is that it removes conditionality - which methinks is the point of br, it should feel like it mitigates the poopoo aspects of the character in question
You should have honestly tried Apollyon birthright with more than one item. Depending on how it's programmed having more items may increase the odds.
you forgot to mention in the video but you can use birthright forgotten to get back into a devil deal or angel room after seeing them on the floor.
got into the devil and saw brim in there but you don't have the health? leave the skeleton in there and go min max for hearts
got into angel but forgot to get a bomb for the key piece? birthright got you covered
p.s: tainted maggie is f because the non draining health counts towards deals, the draining ones don't.
you've now reduced your soul heart capacity by one for no reason!
Azazel's birthright also causes full brimstone to become wider.
Fun synergy you might have not known for Judas's birthright, if you use Alabastors Box, It spawns 3 Black Hearts and 2 Devil Items (and if you took an angel its two Black Hearts and one Devil Item).
I remember I commented recommending this way back on a community post and you responded say you would add it to the list. Now it is a video. Nice work Matt 😎
Maybe a bit strong but I feel like tainted maggy's birthright could've done something like giving you wafer effect outright or even just the cancer effect (so it'd be like a red heart version of cancer essentially) so it synergizes with maggy's gimmick as its kinda hard to use her gimmick in later floors due to taking a whole heart of damage compared to earlier floors
A couple of other things about tlaz birthright: Things like rune bag or chad become a lot better since they're always active, and because of flip letting you see more shop items, you have a way higher chance of seeing it.
Tainted Lost one is good when you are super fast and eat a blue fire when entering a room
I see Another Matt, i click. I hear Forest Funk in the first few seconds of the video, i smile. Love your stuff matt
I love how on T Jacob and T Lost tiers you boil them down to “well if you are a gamer that’s the right place” lol
not saying fellas for a minute challenge (impossible)
The t.lost take is fucking terrible I’m sorry. A extra hit for a character that does in one bit is huge. It helps mitigates bullshit by a decent bit, and with t.lost you need everything you can get.
35:20 That was the original effect- it was just the same as getting Car Battery, so they replaced it with the current one. Probably part of why people don't appreciate it: same reason they still think Betrayal is a bad item.
Not true, originally T. Judas' Birthright was bugged and did nothing (even after all the unfinished Birthrights were implemented), and people theorized that it was supposed to increase the duration just based off the description. It never actually did, though.
lmao
mate never seen the converter exploit with birthright blue baby.
Lmaooo I can already envision how insane it is
hyper specific niche use case
wait a bit mate, the converter is no longer a 0 charge active, it cannot be spammed anymore
@@edxomby2579 it doesn't have to be spammed, can still work
@@marooniballooni03759 i don't understand how
It's just 3 charge soul heart generator
I love t. Lost's birthright for me specifically, because whenever I play t. Lost, I typically get 1 to 2 holy cards for the whole run. And in my 1st dead god doing t. Lost to delirium, the only reason why I didnt get fucked over by delirium was birthright giving me that one extra chance.
I would bump some down a bit but overall I agree. Personally, I'd like to see a mechanic where you can start with Birthright for one run. Perhaps after Dead God is unlocked and you win 10 runs in a row.
That or something akin to Death Certificate but instead of you getting that item now you are guaranteed to get it in the next run.
34:00 I use external item descriptions for conveniency, but when I play T. Cain, I hide the recipes because it just ruins the randomess
If I was making a tainted Bethany birthright, I would make it so your 4 highest quality lemegeton wisps become permanent items.
I would personally put blue baby's higher because i am ridiculously unlucky. I rarely ever get health ups and tinted rocks with blue baby so the extra health is pretty nice
I like how you didnt mention devil deals in Maggys birthright
An underrated aspect of eves birthright is that you won't have to worry about eves lower damage multiplier
The amount of money you spent for that tarot cloth was insane
Samson is lower than Cain..... Yeah I dont know why I tried. This guy never knows what hes talking about
Not related to the video but I love your channel being called “another Matt playing Issac” obviously referencing lazy Matt man
4:13 and I thought my crane game luck was bad
Eve's birthright is insane, *especially* if you have not dropped razorblade yet, because red heart Eve builds are far more crazy than people expect because normally she has to get rid of them asap. I had a binge eater/birthright/razorblade Eve and you'd think with how broken it was that I would have had every damage up in the game
Bro if you picked binge eater who the fuck cares about birthright as eve. Binge eater just carries the entire run by itself
1:46 this tells you that always runs are staged because he forgot to cut out his voice telling Isaac to go down the trapdoor. This tells you that he's not playing a game but filming a movie
yeah? he records a simple run showing the birthright, that's how it's always been lol
T. Azazel birthright should be at least an S
You can use it more constantly as a defense mechanism since it can reflect enemy tears. With enough tears, you can be untouched by projectiles
Blue baby birthright rework i thought of:
Any Red hearts or half red hearts are replaced with soul hearts
And gain 2 extra blue flies for breaking poops
the fact that you got tech X as maggy is crazy
if you get brimstone on azazel and his birthright it also gives you a thicccc brimstone beam (i like azazels birthright cause it looks cool but it does nothing lmao agree with you there)
also petition for tainted lost's birthright to at least give you a holy card when you revive
Matt i gotta say that i love the music choice, the super meat boy and celeste soundtracks go hard 👍
Tainted Apollyon is unironically one of my favorite characters, nice to see some respect
With T. eve’s birthright, just get Maggy’s bow to make the half hearts full red hearts (infinite clots and hp)
Blud got one heart from Queen of Hearts
27:30 I cannot believe I just watched Matt casually win 11 coin flips in a row as an example (1 in 2,048 or a ~0.05% chance)
Actually, eve’s dmg multiplier is only 0.75 w/out whore of babylon, but with it active it goes back to x1. This means you gain a passive +0.25 multiplier to ur dmg
I never encountered this synergy myself, but if I understand correctly, with 9 volts and t. jacob birthright, you just can hold dark esaus chained for eternity
however I didn't actually pay attention if 9 volts work the same with pocket actives, so correct me if I'm wrong here
Azazel with range ups and wide brim is pretty sick
Blue baby is better than Maggie
Inmagine getting cured eye as tainted Bethany from birthright
Now I hate tainted blue baby as much as the next guy, but his birthright doesn't deserve F. I'd say D or C, because early game his poop can make up for the lack of damage, and they have various beneficial effects and utilities. I've had many runs on him where I couldn't carry any more and I'm leaving behind droves of poop pickups each floor, and tripling his carrying capacity increases his potential by a good margin. Not great, but not terrible
Personally, I'd interchange Apollyon and Blue Baby. With Blue Baby, at least the effect is permanent and increases your survivability. With Apollyon, not only is the effect super rare but if you don't already have Void, Birthright does absolutely nothing, which is unacceptable.
Very Clean Video!
To be fair, Maggy's Birthright can be used to take loads of devil deals AND sacrifices soooo
36:31 You’ve clearly never waited in line for the newest Apple iPhone amirite fellas
i feel like a subway surfer kid i get way to focused on the gaemplay
also w judas, you can hold book of vurtues, belial and another active, 3 in 1 slot