John Smith. It's not the dying part that worries me. It's getting cancer and five years of surgery, chemo, pain, pain killers, bankrupting my wife and children going through remission only to have a tumor reappear and die anyway that bothers me.
For the bankruptcy part sorry for you to live in the USA. I am in Canada & being treated for cancer (country with highest rate of cancer survival). USA is I think one of the last countries in terms of “health rights”. All western countries offer low $ health care. Even the countries USA bombard & hate like Libya, Syria, Cuba, Russia... they all had (before bombarding)/have free health care.
Here's my take on this as a 22-year water chemist and water quality lab director, now retired. Depending on the testing method you used to determine that the KDF was not removing the chlorine, I would suggest that what you were getting was a "false positive." And the culprit causing the false positive would be the ammonia that is combined with chlorine to form chloramine. In short, a laboratory titration would most likely confirm that the chlorine was, indeed, removed or reduced to undetectable levels. [Salespeople speak of "removing" this or that contaminant; water chemists refer to "reducing" said contaminants.] BUT the ammonia sneaks past. And it only takes a trace amount of ammonia to register a healthy positive on most non-laboratory chlorine testing protocols. Also, I would never use carbon, either granular (GAC) or carbon block, for a shower filter -- unless you are into cold showers. Running hot water through a carbon filter is a good way to purge the carbon of whatever contaminants it has adsorbed/absorbed from a prior flow-through. IOW, that's not the right filter media for hot showers. KDF is a good water filter media, but you're right, you need to know what your tap water provider is using as the disinfectant; chlorine or chloramine. In sum: the KDF filters are very good at removing chlorine from hot water, making them ideal for shower filters. What is left to determine is how much ammonia is slipping past the KDF, causing the no-doubt false positive chlorine test result, and what are the overall human health considerations about showering in water that is bearing a trace amount of ammonia. Hope that helps.
+TeslasLoveChild -- Good question. Here's the practical aspect of the whole thing. If your incoming tap water is being disinfected by chloramine rather than chlorine, that simply means that the chlorine has been spiked with a trace amount of ammonia. A KDF-55 shower filter will effectively remove all the chlorine and "most" of the ammonia component of chloramine. In other words, a slight trace of ammonia left in the shower stream after passing through a KDF-55 shower filter isn't enough to pose a threat to skin, hair, eyes, etc. The ammonia is at trace levels when combined with the chlorine, and then reduced even further -- but still enough in the filtered water to render a "false" positive reading on a simple OTO (Orthotolidine reagent) chlorine tester. In sum, if you're using a KDF-55 shower filter, it really doesn't matter whether your incoming water is being disinfected with chlorine or chloramine, the KDF-55 media is very appropriate for the job.
El Tuco I see. I thought Chloramine is a different compound as it merges with the ammonia .. but if it's neutralisation is simply de-combing them then the Q is, can KDF remove ammonia ?
Dear Water Watchman, Because of your effort and willingness to share this, you've created the awareness necessary for people to heal, prevent illness, extend and quite literally save lives. Likewise, you've spared families and friends from the kind of grief that some never fully return from. I hope you realize this and remember the gift you place in other people's hands when you share your knowledge and experience with them.
Thank you so much for this video! What a blessing. I just bought a shower filter and sink filter last night for dishes and stuff. I wish I had seen this one first though. I need to call the water company now! Man are they sneaky!
Vitamin C filters or powder is what's successfully used to neutralise 99% of chlorine and chloramine 👍🏼 I've been reading about gravity water filters lately and the newest one propur says on its independent lab test that it filters out (I think it was 98-99%) of chloramine and chlorine. The Berkey filters may be just as affective too.
The company is thinking with their wallet instead of assurance health and safety for the client. The company should use this video to address future implementation for this product to keep customers happy with the product. Thank you for sharing - very useful information.
Thank you for the informative video, I just wanted to mention doing some extra research on reverse osmosis. what happens is a decalcification of the water which then passes through your body, because of the decalcification the liver has to work twice as hard to make it usable. Please be careful when drinking reverse osmosis. I am a 3rd year medical student if that makes any difference in my statement. Best wishes
Sharon's healing garden. Question: should we worry more about our liver work twice as much, per your statement. Or do we worry about the other cancerous chemicals we wash our bodies with? In other words which of the two evils to watch for?
"their job to get good clean water to the house but it's our job to clean it once it's here" - doesn't make sense. If it's good clean water when it gets to the house, why would it need to be cleaned by us?
8 years later, why not. What he means is, good clean water free from poo, parasites and other waste. Not clean from chemicals that they need to use to treat the waters of poo and parasites.
THANK YOU!!! We are being exposed to toxins on every front (food,water,air even walking on grass or soil) 24/7. We must educate ourselves and each other if we hope to survive. God bless you.
Cuzn (US Company) owns 2 different filters for showers, one for chlorine and another one for chloramine. I've only used the former at home and it works pretty good (we don't have chloramines in Barcelona -Spain-). Just wanted to let you know that there's a gravity filter for chloramines, so you may try it and do some additional tests. Thanks for your video! Cheers,
we the people best statement ever made thank you so much for putting up this video. If not for this man we would have never found out. Wish they would put his video on the news 3 times a week for a year. when people find out about what is being done to us then we can protect are self and are family that we love so much.
It is the job of the municipality to remove all contaminants and toxic chemicals in the water SAFELY it is their JOB not ours as we already pay astronomical amounts of money for that!, so I don't have to do their job and on top of that PAY again for it
Hi Thermax292, I'm French and was selling KDF filters 15 years ago although the market was not ready yet. At this time, Brittany (in the West) water was contaminated by Nitrates due to intensive pork farming. So I tested the water and found that Nitrates were transformed into Nitrites which are even more dangerous... So I stopped selling KDF filter immediatly. KDF works well on some types of contaminants but be aware it can also turn some others into more harmfull contaminants. Dieter
Thank you for this very informative video. I just purchased a shower head filter and now I need to check my city water to see what the hell they put in our water.
From an Environmental Engineer: Any chlorine and monochlorine are not carcinogenic themselves. It is through a reaction in the pipe network with NOM (Natural Organic Matter) that chlorine gas (Cl2) will react to form carcinogenic compounds called DBP's (Disinfection By Products). Weather the reaction will occur of not depends on the residence time (time the water is in the pipe). The EPA makes the utilities test the farthest distance from the facility for DBP's. DBP's are highly regulated and can be prevented from forming by reducing the need for high concentrations of chlorine gas disinfection. DBP's used to be a problem until the DWA (Drinking Water Act) in the 70's, but anymore because they better understand something that they did not know even existed. Feel free to message or comment to me. I can answer questions, comments, and concerns.
thank you for making this video Sr. I have been doing some research on what water system to get and only your video mentions this problem, thank you again.
I hate how expensive and difficult it is to filter water in a house, apartment or trailer, especially apartment. thats a great tip to look at the water quality analysis for your area. i will check for monocloramine
Coconut charcoal works much better with gravity and no water pressure. The fliters he is talking about would work for a shower but you would be replacing it far too often to be cost effective. Coconut charcoal in small amounts will only do a small amount just as anything else. It will only absorb so much. So an effective shower filter would have to be rather large, or you would be replacing it too often. There are several systems that will work, like reverse osmosis or UV but they are costy and still require maintenance and possible filter changes and electricity. He is putting out good useful information about the chemical process. I imagine chloramine will become more widely used not less. Good on Ya !
This should go viral! Great presentation to get people looking at the covert chlorine to chloramine switch and on to its connection (cause) to recent lead poisoning of the water supply in Flint and other cities, which is really happening nationwide. Then if you go there, you'll be heading down the Fluoride rabbit hole. May be a good time to get into the water filter business, we need better products.
Wow thank you so much!! I was looking around for shower filters and something told me I better do so research on UA-cam and I came across your video. I had no idea about all that you described so thank you for sharing!!
Hi Thermax292, I'm French and was selling KDF filters 15 years ago although the market was not ready yet. At this time, Brittany (in the West) water was contaminated by Nitrates due to extensive pork farms. So I tested it and discovered that Nitrates were removed and transformed into Nitrites which are even more dangerous... So I stopped selling KDF filter immediatly. KDF works well on some types of contaminants but be aware it can also turn some others into more harmfull contaminants. Dieter
Good Point! When reading filter performance data, many times laboratories will list the results as reducing "chloramines" (hopefully in addition to chlorine). The term "chloramines" as used in the water industry describes the three compounds that can be formed from the reaction of ammonia with chlorine: monochloramine, dichloramine and trichloramine. In other words, if the data says that a particular filter reduces chloramines, you are good to go for any of the three compounds. $95 might seem expensive for a filter, but unfortunately, it's not. A state of the art drinking water system at point-of-use where there is virtually no risk of recontamination from water pipes in your home, could easily cost you over $1,000 per faucet plus replacement filters from $125 to as much as $275. The question for you (and by inference your family), is how good is good? I've had cancer twice and I want to get the best protection possible.
if I claim to reduce chloramines that is not data. After all if the filter I sell chloramines by5% I can say it reduces chloramines, as a true American Businessman I do not owe my customers honesty, I am in it to make money!!! If I show tests that say the filter reduces chloramines from a level of 5 ppm to below 1 ppm that is scant data but it's a start.
OneDilemma, thanks for your response. The dangers of fluoride are well documented here on UA-cam. Chloramines and KDF filters are a new problem for most of us and there aren't allot of info about them. Thanks
The water company does a nice job getting the water to the house. Where I fault them is not telling the public the water is good for the toilet and washing machine but not for drinking. They should be warning the public to finish the filtering process with a filter that will remove fluoride and chlorines. No one over 12 years of age should be drinking fluoride. Fluoride was made to swish around your mouth and spit it out, not swallow it.
Thank you for this video, and you are correct in what you say - but, BUT, there is more, a LOT more to carefully consider! Most municipal water supply systems, meaning government-regulated, do NOT have your best interests at heart. Government officials and politicians are not in charge as most people think, they get their orders from sources that you have never seen and probably you have never heard their names. That is why it is FAR better to live in a rural location where you can have your own private well, if the ground-water in that area is not contaminated already from 'fracking'. No chlorine or other toxic chemicals from your own well. Another option is to have a quality metal roof then collect rainwater and filter it properly, OH, strike that if you live in the USA - In most locations the massive chemtrails nix that option! OH WELL!
Chlorine can be removed fairly easily but, chloramines are MUCH more difficult to remove. If your city water has chloramines [and fluoride] in it the best 'fix' is to move to an area that does not add that to the drinking water... ie; move to the country.
I agree with you. I have a aquasana water filter and while the replacements are expensive I feel good knowing it removes chlorine and chloramine. For my drinking water I have one of the best water dstillers money can buy. I do not have R.O. because I don't like the lies the RO company make about their product. Thank you for making a great video.
Hey buddy! Thanks for putting the word out. Did you know that NDMA is a byproduct of chloramine disinfection and one, it is extremely toxic, and two, it is not removed by reverse osmosis or ANY TYPE of carbon or distillation? (NDMA nullification requires UV light ten times more intense than UV radiation designed for disinfection.) I've been around the block with tap water, various filters, etc. and Ii finally decided that there are too many variables and too many chemicals and chemical by-products in tap water with which to deal. And, in addition to the added fluoride and chloramine and the pollution in the groundwater, there is the issue of several miles of pipes that run from the water tank in your town to your home. They are probably 20 years old and WHO KNOWS WHAT is growing inside them and WHO KNOWS WHAT is leeching into the water from them! Here;s what I do: I have a Royal Berkey gravity filter but I use my Berkey in a special way. I have an AWG (atmospheric water generator from DroughtMasters*com) that removes 6 gallons of water per day from the air here in Clearwater, Florida. I then pour that water through my Royal Berkey which contains 4 Black Berkey carbon block filters. The AWG unit contains a UV light that kills bacteria, etc. I plan on having my output water tested by National Testing Labs in Ohio. By the way, have you had your output water tested for fluoride and NDMA? Cheers! Steve Downing, Clearwater, Florida ** Sweetpuppy*com/BigBerkey **
+Stevie Downing hey brother, any updates on the results of your water testing? would be interested to know if any shit still exists in it ? since your filtration seems very comprehensive, including UV ! Damn .
Stevie Downing Hey Stevie, we're in GA, and we order the same one, Royal Berkey. We've at my shower a filter, but not sure if is good enough... What you do to your shower?! Tks!
You can neutralize the chlorine witb vitamin c tabs filter. Vitamin c doesnt remove it it just neutralizes it by binding to it and changing it. Chlorine and chloramines.
If you are buying bottled water, do yourself a favor and get a Berkey. A friend of mine has R/O and it tastes just as good as the Berkey black filters + PF-2. It doesn't require plumbing and is cheaper to replace filters. The shower filter is also very good, skin is softer, hair, and chlorine smell is gone!
Thanks so much for sharing, I just got a 5 stage filter, one stage I believe is KDF, I have to go and see now. Can you tell us how you or the other man tested for chlorine or the monocholine? It would be great to know how to test that? Also have you found any filters that you feel live up to what they need to do? I have to disagree with you letting the water companies off the hook though. They make plenty of money and charge us a lot of money for it. They certainly could put something on the bill we receive each month, very simple. They also have a moral obligation to inform us about these things, at least that is my feeling about that whole situation. I am glad that you took it upon yourself to take action. Thank you so much. I would love a response if you have time, and would love to see a demonstration video, or at least the basic items we need to do the test with. Thanks.
You are so cool... love this video. QUESTION 1. Will the carbon filtering device also remove FLUORIDE as well as CHLORINE? QUESTION 2: Which reverse osmosis device do you recomment... QESTION 3: Which carbon filtering device. (I do hear that carbon filtering devices do not remove chlorine from hot water... but it will from cold cold water - I still would like to have it for cold water!) QUESTION 4: I do see you have the ozone generator (I think I detected it in your counter)... 'Ozone genetarors used for what? For reverse osmosis... to remove chlorine, fluoride or both? I have one & not used yet... I like how you explain things... please help! Question 5: what is reverse osmosis? Will that tackle everything.. or will ozone generator do the job?? Thanks very much!
It's worth rememberin chlorine is one of the most reactive elements there is that is why it is such a powerful disinfecting agent Not only is it reactive it is volatile, so if you leave chlorinated water in a jug for a few hours it will disappear. secondly chlorine is so reactive, if you put a few eyedrops of some organic substance, say milk a large jug of chlorinated water, the chlorine would instantly react and bond with the organic material and turn into harmless salts. Basically do not worry about chlorine, worry about the other stuff that might be in your water.
great video im trying to find out whats the best filter for my tap water, so far i know my tap water contains fluoride, chlorine and chloramine you specifically said not to buy gravity flow filters, what is the best filter for chlorine what about distillers?
Thank you for taking the time to post your information! I found it very helpful in clearing up the "gobblygook" that is on all these sites for water filtration.
The use of kdf requires testing by a lab with a color spectrometer for accurate readings. Home strips don't give a reliable read when the water has been filtered by kdf. Standard 55 kdf can't filter chloramine. There is a 85 kdf which can filter chloramine. It's harder to remove than chlorine, so getting it all out from a shower filter isn't yet possible. You can reduce it however, with the right filter. Carbon alone is NOT sufficient to remove chloramine. It required too much media.
anianash I used an OTO tester like you use on a pool. When I had my whole house catalytic carbon filter installed the filter company used the same one to test it and the test showed no monochloramines in the water after it passed through the carbon. Your first step is to find out if your water companies using chloramines. If its using just chlorine the gravity and KDF filters are OK. thanks
In thinking of using a sonaki universal in line filter attached to an acquasana AQ 4100... I believe this will work!! I might need to buy extra fitings (extensions) to make this prploperly work...I think this will work double duty and be effective. Worth a shot
The only filter I know of that has enough coconut-based carbon to remove the chloramine is ewswater (dot) com. People with severe reactions to chloramine use their filters to remove it from the shower and drinking water. A lot of whole house filters claim to remove chloramine, but they either don't or they crap out and stop removing it after about 1 year (a house filter is supposed to last at least 7 years).
Black carbon and KDF filters don't work for any type of chlorine removal. I have tried and tested many types of these filters. I have also done some research and have found that Vitamin C filters have been very effective in removing both chlorine and chloramines in the water. Apparently, vitamin C filters are only manufactured in Japan/Korea, not the U.S. I wonder why? Anyone have any experience with these Vitamin C filters? I just purchased one by UBS (made in Korea) with fence-sitting reviews. The downside thus far would be the constant filter changing every month that I've read so much about. Hmm. Help?
Is it the Imperial water purification system shower filter or Camelot made in the U S A you are talking about. I will contact the water board and find out about the mono chloramine
I recommend showerwise shower filter though I do not know if they filter out monochloramine. This shower filter is recommended by Chris Wark- an awesome cancer survivor.
Good video, to the poster....you mention your filtering your drinking water with RO, what do you use with your RO water for adding back the minerals RO strip?
It would seem to be quite prudent, after you find the correct filter for your situation, to keep a constant monitoring of your water source just in case the supplier decides to change the chemical additives it uses to "purify" the water at their source. You may well have to retrofit your home system with different filters should the filters that you are currently using not be able to filter out the new chemical additive.
Thank u ou...good video. Have you tested your water from RO filter? I just got a water distiller. RO water is filthy also. Making DIY distiller is easy and you need to just steam water away and look into the pot after water is evaporated. YOU WILL SEE SEDAMENTS.
"There's too many people to tell, and they don't have time."
"No problem, I'll take care of it for ya!"
*Classic!*
*You sir are a boss!*
John Smith.
It's not the dying part that worries me. It's getting cancer and five years of surgery, chemo, pain, pain killers, bankrupting my wife and children going through remission only to have a tumor reappear and die anyway that bothers me.
Yet population is doing nothing to fight against all these chemicals that are given to us every single day
Then just get a million dollar life insurance policy for the family, and then crash your car into a telephone pole at 75 mph
For the bankruptcy part sorry for you to live in the USA. I am in Canada & being treated for cancer (country with highest rate of cancer survival). USA is I think one of the last countries in terms of “health rights”. All western countries offer low $ health care. Even the countries USA bombard & hate like Libya, Syria, Cuba, Russia... they all had (before bombarding)/have free health care.
Here's my take on this as a 22-year water chemist and water quality lab director, now retired.
Depending on the testing method you used to determine that the KDF was not removing the chlorine, I would suggest that what you were getting was a "false positive." And the culprit causing the false positive would be the ammonia that is combined with chlorine to form chloramine. In short, a laboratory titration would most likely confirm that the chlorine was, indeed, removed or reduced to undetectable levels. [Salespeople speak of "removing" this or that contaminant; water chemists refer to "reducing" said contaminants.]
BUT the ammonia sneaks past. And it only takes a trace amount of ammonia to register a healthy positive on most non-laboratory chlorine testing protocols.
Also, I would never use carbon, either granular (GAC) or carbon block, for a shower filter -- unless you are into cold showers. Running hot water through a carbon filter is a good way to purge the carbon of whatever contaminants it has adsorbed/absorbed from a prior flow-through. IOW, that's not the right filter media for hot showers.
KDF is a good water filter media, but you're right, you need to know what your tap water provider is using as the disinfectant; chlorine or chloramine. In sum: the KDF filters are very good at removing chlorine from hot water, making them ideal for shower filters.
What is left to determine is how much ammonia is slipping past the KDF, causing the no-doubt false positive chlorine test result, and what are the overall human health considerations about showering in water that is bearing a trace amount of ammonia.
Hope that helps.
+El Tuco Hi, Q : if any Chloramine is present would kdf-55 media remove it? if not what % would it remove? 50% ? 80% ?
+TeslasLoveChild -- Good question. Here's the practical aspect of the whole thing. If your incoming tap water is being disinfected by chloramine rather than chlorine, that simply means that the chlorine has been spiked with a trace amount of ammonia. A KDF-55 shower filter will effectively remove all the chlorine and "most" of the ammonia component of chloramine. In other words, a slight trace of ammonia left in the shower stream after passing through a KDF-55 shower filter isn't enough to pose a threat to skin, hair, eyes, etc. The ammonia is at trace levels when combined with the chlorine, and then reduced even further -- but still enough in the filtered water to render a "false" positive reading on a simple OTO (Orthotolidine reagent) chlorine tester. In sum, if you're using a KDF-55 shower filter, it really doesn't matter whether your incoming water is being disinfected with chlorine or chloramine, the KDF-55 media is very appropriate for the job.
El Tuco I see. I thought Chloramine is a different compound as it merges with the ammonia .. but if it's neutralisation is simply de-combing them then the Q is, can KDF remove ammonia ?
This is why you put a filter on the whole house so it's filtering before the water heater, meaning before the water is heated.
I read that KDF-55 requires 10-12 GPM flow of water for effectiveness. What are your views on this?
Dear Water Watchman,
Because of your effort and willingness to share this, you've created the awareness necessary for people to heal, prevent illness, extend and quite literally save lives. Likewise, you've spared families and friends from the kind of grief that some never fully return from. I hope you realize this and remember the gift you place in other people's hands when you share your knowledge and experience with them.
that spice rack is awesome
Thank you so much for this video! What a blessing. I just bought a shower filter and sink filter last night for dishes and stuff. I wish I had seen this one first though. I need to call the water company now! Man are they sneaky!
Vitamin C filters or powder is what's successfully used to neutralise 99% of chlorine and chloramine 👍🏼
I've been reading about gravity water filters lately and the newest one propur says on its independent lab test that it filters out (I think it was 98-99%) of chloramine and chlorine. The Berkey filters may be just as affective too.
The company is thinking with their wallet instead of assurance health and safety for the client. The company should use this video to address future implementation for this product to keep customers happy with the product. Thank you for sharing - very useful information.
Thank you for the informative video, I just wanted to mention doing some extra research on reverse osmosis. what happens is a decalcification of the water which then passes through your body, because of the decalcification the liver has to work twice as hard to make it usable. Please be careful when drinking reverse osmosis. I am a 3rd year medical student if that makes any difference in my statement. Best wishes
Sharon's healing garden. Question: should we worry more about our liver work twice as much, per your statement. Or do we worry about the other cancerous chemicals we wash our bodies with? In other words which of the two evils to watch for?
"their job to get good clean water to the house but it's our job to clean it once it's here" - doesn't make sense. If it's good clean water when it gets to the house, why would it need to be cleaned by us?
8 years later, why not.
What he means is, good clean water free from poo, parasites and other waste. Not clean from chemicals that they need to use to treat the waters of poo and parasites.
THANK YOU!!! We are being exposed to toxins on every front (food,water,air even walking on grass or soil) 24/7. We must educate ourselves and each other if we hope to survive. God bless you.
Cuzn (US Company) owns 2 different filters for showers, one for chlorine and another one for chloramine. I've only used the former at home and it works pretty good (we don't have chloramines in Barcelona -Spain-). Just wanted to let you know that there's a gravity filter for chloramines, so you may try it and do some additional tests. Thanks for your video! Cheers,
we the people best statement ever made thank you so much for putting up this video. If not for this man we would have never found out. Wish they would put his video on the news 3 times a week for a year. when people find out about what is being done to us then we can protect are self and are family that we love so much.
It is the job of the municipality to remove all contaminants and toxic chemicals in the water SAFELY it is their JOB not ours as we already pay astronomical amounts of money for that!, so I don't have to do their job and on top of that PAY again for it
Hi Thermax292, I'm French and was selling KDF filters 15 years ago although the market was not ready yet. At this time, Brittany (in the West) water was contaminated by Nitrates due to intensive pork farming. So I tested the water and found that Nitrates were transformed into Nitrites which are even more dangerous... So I stopped selling KDF filter immediatly. KDF works well on some types of contaminants but be aware it can also turn some others into more harmfull contaminants.
Dieter
Thanx for your unbiased information. Very Helpful and to the point .
Thank you for this very informative video. I just purchased a shower head filter and now I need to check my city water to see what the hell they put in our water.
From an Environmental Engineer: Any chlorine and monochlorine are not carcinogenic themselves. It is through a reaction in the pipe network with NOM (Natural Organic Matter) that chlorine gas (Cl2) will react to form carcinogenic compounds called DBP's (Disinfection By Products). Weather the reaction will occur of not depends on the residence time (time the water is in the pipe). The EPA makes the utilities test the farthest distance from the facility for DBP's. DBP's are highly regulated and can be prevented from forming by reducing the need for high concentrations of chlorine gas disinfection. DBP's used to be a problem until the DWA (Drinking Water Act) in the 70's, but anymore because they better understand something that they did not know even existed. Feel free to message or comment to me. I can answer questions, comments, and concerns.
Which means the water we get at our tap causes cancer!
Maxwell Goodacre Can you prove it that is not carcinogenic?!
Learn how to spell whether
That spice rack is a smart use of space. The heat of the oven may be bad for it, but I love it overall!
thank you for making this video Sr. I have been doing some research on what water system to get and only your video mentions this problem, thank you again.
berkey gravity filters filter out chloramines as well as chlorine. they are a little pricey but they do the job.
Who told you they filter out chloramines?
Go to the website they did the testing it shows all the stuff that is filtered out on the lab results
Independent research.
@robert mcever where's your research results?
robert mcever it was tested by external labs & it is on their website. It is certified NSF too
I hate how expensive and difficult it is to filter water in a house, apartment or trailer, especially apartment. thats a great tip to look at the water quality analysis for your area. i will check for monocloramine
Now thats a good video, thank you for doing such a great service for us all! All they have to do is put it in the advertisements and packaging.
Coconut charcoal works much better with gravity and no water pressure. The fliters he is talking about would work for a shower but you would be replacing it far too often to be cost effective. Coconut charcoal in small amounts will only do a small amount just as anything else. It will only absorb so much. So an effective shower filter would have to be rather large, or you would be replacing it too often. There are several systems that will work, like reverse osmosis or UV but they are costy and still require maintenance and possible filter changes and electricity. He is putting out good useful information about the chemical process. I imagine chloramine will become more widely used not less. Good on Ya !
Thank you for the information, it has prompted me to look at my own local water treatment facility and how they treat their water. Thank you!
Berkey's have upgraded their shower filters to include Chloramine filtration!
This should go viral!
Great presentation to get people looking at the covert chlorine to chloramine switch and on to its connection (cause) to recent lead poisoning of the water supply in Flint and other cities, which is really happening nationwide. Then if you go there, you'll be heading down the Fluoride rabbit hole. May be a good time to get into the water filter business, we need better products.
Thanks for the video. I hate dishonest and misleading companies!
😩There is so much info to know & figure out & as soon as I think I’ve got it figured out there is something else sneaking through! 😩
Thank you very much for taking the time and make this video!
You're a God-send... Thank you for your candid and informative review. It's so helpful.
Excellent way to explain the differences. Thank you very much.
Wow thank you so much!! I was looking around for shower filters and something told me I better do so research on UA-cam and I came across your video. I had no idea about all that you described so thank you for sharing!!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge to protect us.
Hi Thermax292, I'm French and was selling KDF filters 15 years ago although the market was not ready yet. At this time, Brittany (in the West) water was contaminated by Nitrates due to extensive pork farms. So I tested it and discovered that Nitrates were removed and transformed into Nitrites which are even more dangerous... So I stopped selling KDF filter immediatly. KDF works well on some types of contaminants but be aware it can also turn some others into more harmfull contaminants.
Dieter
Good Point! When reading filter performance data, many times laboratories will list the results as reducing "chloramines" (hopefully in addition to chlorine). The term "chloramines" as used in the water industry describes the three compounds that can be formed from the reaction of ammonia with chlorine: monochloramine, dichloramine and trichloramine. In other words, if the data says that a particular filter reduces chloramines, you are good to go for any of the three compounds. $95 might seem expensive for a filter, but unfortunately, it's not. A state of the art drinking water system at point-of-use where there is virtually no risk of recontamination from water pipes in your home, could easily cost you over $1,000 per faucet plus replacement filters from $125 to as much as $275. The question for you (and by inference your family), is how good is good? I've had cancer twice and I want to get the best protection possible.
if I claim to reduce chloramines that is not data. After all if the filter I sell chloramines by5% I can say it reduces chloramines, as a true American Businessman I do not owe my customers honesty, I am in it to make money!!! If I show tests that say the filter reduces chloramines from a level of 5 ppm to below 1 ppm that is scant data but it's a start.
OneDilemma, thanks for your response. The dangers of fluoride are well documented here on UA-cam. Chloramines and KDF filters are a new problem for most of us and there aren't allot of info about them. Thanks
Thank you for saving lives! Again our responsibility for knowing what companies put in our food and drinks!
The water company does a nice job getting the water to the house. Where I fault them is not telling the public the water is good for the toilet and washing machine but not for drinking. They should be warning the public to finish the filtering process with a filter that will remove fluoride and chlorines. No one over 12 years of age should be drinking fluoride. Fluoride was made to swish around your mouth and spit it out, not swallow it.
Thank you! very helpful. What do you recommend?
Excellent advice. Thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Thank you for sharing your education, of course the real reason the company doesn't tell you is that it would affect sales....
Thank you for this video, and you are correct in what you say - but, BUT, there is more, a LOT more to carefully consider! Most municipal water supply systems, meaning government-regulated, do NOT have your best interests at heart. Government officials and politicians are not in charge as most people think, they get their orders from sources that you have never seen and probably you have never heard their names. That is why it is FAR better to live in a rural location where you can have your own private well, if the ground-water in that area is not contaminated already from 'fracking'. No chlorine or other toxic chemicals from your own well. Another option is to have a quality metal roof then collect rainwater and filter it properly, OH, strike that if you live in the USA - In most locations the massive chemtrails nix that option! OH WELL!
Very Good Advice. Thank you.
Chlorine can be removed fairly easily but, chloramines are MUCH more difficult to remove. If your city water has chloramines [and fluoride] in it the best 'fix' is to move to an area that does not add that to the drinking water... ie; move to the country.
Thank you for providing us with this important information.
I agree with you. I have a aquasana water filter and while the replacements are expensive I feel good knowing it removes chlorine and chloramine. For my drinking water I have one of the best water dstillers money can buy. I do not have R.O. because I don't like the lies the RO company make about their product. Thank you for making a great video.
Hey buddy! Thanks for putting the word out. Did you know that NDMA is a byproduct of chloramine disinfection and one, it is extremely toxic, and two, it is not removed by reverse osmosis or ANY TYPE of carbon or distillation? (NDMA nullification requires UV light ten times more intense than UV radiation designed for disinfection.) I've been around the block with tap water, various filters, etc. and Ii finally decided that there are too many variables and too many chemicals and chemical by-products in tap water with which to deal. And, in addition to the added fluoride and chloramine and the pollution in the groundwater, there is the issue of several miles of pipes that run from the water tank in your town to your home. They are probably 20 years old and WHO KNOWS WHAT is growing inside them and WHO KNOWS WHAT is leeching into the water from them! Here;s what I do: I have a Royal Berkey gravity filter but I use my Berkey in a special way. I have an AWG (atmospheric water generator from DroughtMasters*com) that removes 6 gallons of water per day from the air here in Clearwater, Florida. I then pour that water through my Royal Berkey which contains 4 Black Berkey carbon block filters. The AWG unit contains a UV light that kills bacteria, etc. I plan on having my output water tested by National Testing Labs in Ohio. By the way, have you had your output water tested for fluoride and NDMA? Cheers! Steve Downing, Clearwater, Florida ** Sweetpuppy*com/BigBerkey **
+Stevie Downing hey brother, any updates on the results of your water testing? would be interested to know if any shit still exists in it ? since your filtration seems very comprehensive, including UV ! Damn .
+Stevie Downing did you die?
Rick Dangerous chlorine poisoning
Stevie Downing Hey Stevie, we're in GA, and we order the same one, Royal Berkey. We've at my shower a filter, but not sure if is good enough... What you do to your shower?! Tks!
I just got an ultimate dual kdf shower filter from Live Prestine. Its says Chloramine Removing and Flouride Reducing. Hope it was worth the $170.
You can neutralize the chlorine witb vitamin c tabs filter. Vitamin c doesnt remove it it just neutralizes it by binding to it and changing it. Chlorine and chloramines.
Hype not chemistry. Not enough contact time and not enough vitamin C
Thank you, Thermax. This is quite good information. It should help anyone who wants to make the best informed and smartest purchase in their filter.
Thanx so much for informing the public, I definitly learned something from U!!
If you are buying bottled water, do yourself a favor and get a Berkey. A friend of mine has R/O and it tastes just as good as the Berkey black filters + PF-2. It doesn't require plumbing and is cheaper to replace filters. The shower filter is also very good, skin is softer, hair, and chlorine smell is gone!
thanks for taking the time to sharing this with us.
I guess more research is in store for me! Thanks for the video!
Can you recommend a good shower filter and one to clean my fruits and vegetables thanks.
Thanks so much for sharing, I just got a 5 stage filter, one stage I believe is KDF, I have to go and see now. Can you tell us how you or the other man tested for chlorine or the monocholine? It would be great to know how to test that? Also have you found any filters that you feel live up to what they need to do? I have to disagree with you letting the water companies off the hook though. They make plenty of money and charge us a lot of money for it. They certainly could put something on the bill we receive each month, very simple. They also have a moral obligation to inform us about these things, at least that is my feeling about that whole situation. I am glad that you took it upon yourself to take action. Thank you so much. I would love a response if you have time, and would love to see a demonstration video, or at least the basic items we need to do the test with. Thanks.
Thank you Sir for this important information. Blessings.
You are so cool... love this video. QUESTION 1. Will the carbon filtering device also remove FLUORIDE as well as CHLORINE? QUESTION 2: Which reverse osmosis device do you recomment... QESTION 3: Which carbon filtering device. (I do hear that carbon filtering devices do not remove chlorine from hot water... but it will from cold cold water - I still would like to have it for cold water!) QUESTION 4: I do see you have the ozone generator (I think I detected it in your counter)... 'Ozone genetarors used for what? For reverse osmosis... to remove chlorine, fluoride or both? I have one & not used yet... I like how you explain things... please help! Question 5: what is reverse osmosis? Will that tackle everything.. or will ozone generator do the job??
Thanks very much!
Good .
It's worth rememberin chlorine is one of the most reactive elements there is that is why it is such a powerful disinfecting agent Not only is it reactive it is volatile, so if you leave chlorinated water in a jug for a few hours it will disappear. secondly chlorine is so reactive, if you put a few eyedrops of some organic substance, say milk a large jug of chlorinated water, the chlorine would instantly react and bond with the organic material and turn into harmless salts. Basically do not worry about chlorine, worry about the other stuff that might be in your water.
Good video thanks for going to the trouble....I did not know this.
Thanks for sharing knowledge! I really appreciate.
Very informative...thank you for setting me straight!! Nice video!!
great video
im trying to find out whats the best filter for my tap water, so far i know my tap water contains fluoride, chlorine and chloramine
you specifically said not to buy gravity flow filters,
what is the best filter for chlorine
what about distillers?
Thank you for sharing God bless you and your family
Thanks for sharing this, sir! Bless you.
Thank you for taking the time to post your information! I found it very helpful in clearing up the "gobblygook" that is on all these sites for water filtration.
Berkey sells a filter that is specifically for chlorine. It fits all the filters that are mentioned above.
The use of kdf requires testing by a lab with a color spectrometer for accurate readings. Home strips don't give a reliable read when the water has been filtered by kdf.
Standard 55 kdf can't filter chloramine. There is a 85 kdf which can filter chloramine. It's harder to remove than chlorine, so getting it all out from a shower filter isn't yet possible. You can reduce it however, with the right filter.
Carbon alone is NOT sufficient to remove chloramine. It required too much media.
Excellent info! Thanks
Thank you for all of the information.
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I used an OTO tester like you use on a pool. When I had my whole house catalytic carbon filter installed the filter company used the same one to test it and the test showed no monochloramines in the water after it passed through the carbon. Your first step is to find out if your water companies using chloramines. If its using just chlorine the gravity and KDF filters are OK. thanks
witch filter will you recommend to remove both chemicals thank`s really helpful video.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Pretty helpful...
Thank you for this video. This is a very education video!
I just read below that you use a RO system and add minerals back in. Which one do you use? RO gets rid of chloramines?
I found ProPur filters; according to specs they remove a wide variety of chemicals including monochloramine and flouride too.
In thinking of using a sonaki universal in line filter attached to an acquasana AQ 4100... I believe this will work!! I might need to buy extra fitings (extensions) to make this prploperly work...I think this will work double duty and be effective. Worth a shot
The only filter I know of that has enough coconut-based carbon to remove the chloramine is ewswater (dot) com. People with severe reactions to chloramine use their filters to remove it from the shower and drinking water. A lot of whole house filters claim to remove chloramine, but they either don't or they crap out and stop removing it after about 1 year (a house filter is supposed to last at least 7 years).
Black carbon and KDF filters don't work for any type of chlorine removal. I have tried and tested many types of these filters. I have also done some research and have found that Vitamin C filters have been very effective in removing both chlorine and chloramines in the water. Apparently, vitamin C filters are only manufactured in Japan/Korea, not the U.S. I wonder why? Anyone have any experience with these Vitamin C filters? I just purchased one by UBS (made in Korea) with fence-sitting reviews. The downside thus far would be the constant filter changing every month that I've read so much about. Hmm. Help?
What about for drinking using a a drip system. Berky is the only one that is not a FILTER but a PURIFIER. Is that doable to take out monochloramines?
Great video to warn everyone.
What a fine guy!
Is it the Imperial water purification system shower filter or Camelot made in the U S A you are talking about. I will contact the water board and find out about the mono chloramine
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
thank you for making this video and educating us.
well done sir on helping ppl out was gona buy a few but first will check out our water suppliers Thames water
Thank you, your info was extremely helpful to my family!
Good on you for producing this video, most informative & thank you..:)
I have an Alexa Pure. Works.
thanks for making this video!
Wow! Thanks for the education.
Good video. Thanks!
Thanks very much. Big help!
I recommend showerwise shower filter though I do not know if they filter out monochloramine. This shower filter is recommended by Chris Wark- an awesome cancer survivor.
Good video, to the poster....you mention your filtering your drinking water with RO, what do you use with your RO water for adding back the minerals RO strip?
+Chris Strobel I use a trace mineral supplement drops
It would seem to be quite prudent, after you find the correct filter for your situation, to keep a constant monitoring of your water source just in case the supplier decides to change the chemical additives it uses to "purify" the water at their source. You may well have to retrofit your home system with different filters should the filters that you are currently using not be able to filter out the new chemical additive.
Thank u ou...good video.
Have you tested your water from RO filter?
I just got a water distiller. RO water is filthy also. Making DIY distiller is easy and you need to just steam water away and look into the pot after water is evaporated. YOU WILL SEE SEDAMENTS.
not sure about that, I guess it would depend on gpm your using, best to contact a filter company for a better answer. Thanks