I had never tried papa John's until I heard about the controversy. Then I sought out papa John's to make sure I gave my business to a company the makes people I hate angry. It just so happened that Papa John's is utterly delicious and became my favorite pizza place
I don't eat Papa John's, but I also don't measure the world in morality like triggered SJW's or pearl-clutching conservatives, so the only time I'll care what Schnatter says is if it involves changing the recipe of the food for the worse.
@@joseresendiz9161agreed I'm biased because I've worked at Papa John's for over 2 years though. Our quality did take a small hit when we stopped cutting our own veggies though. Now we get them on the truck and they're alright.
I remember when if you got Papa John’s for a party people were impressed. It was like oh you’re willing to spend more for quality- this must be special. Now it’s just another National chain.
It's funny, because I actually always had a bad opinion of PJs because the franchised location in my hometown always made such terrible pizza (late 90s). But once I moved away, I found most other places made really decent pizza and my opinion has since changed and I actually quite like their stuff.
PJs is still miles ahead of dominos and pizza hut at least in the UK. the latter 2 taste like cardboard frozen junk. They give me 50% offers sometimes but i stay with PJs
Really? That sounds like Pizza Pizza. We don’t have Papa John’s in Canada (at least not in Ottawa). We have some American chains, like Pizza Hut and Domino’s. But we usually go to local (in my case Ottawa) chains like Gabriel’s, or Mr. Mozzarella. But if you had Pizza Pizza at your birthday as a kid, you were the man. That or the Mr. Sub Party Sub. 😂
My family used to be a Papa Johns family, but after 2004 (the fist time that john retired as ceo) our local papa johns location started to really screw up our orders... like every time we would order pizza something was wrong. So we switched to dominos, but then they changed their sauce recipe... eventually we settled on a smaller midwest chain called Toppers. never looked back after that point lol
One of the best choices papa John's has made was opening locations near colleges. I work at a university and when I need food for many there's very little choice
I lead shifts and drove at 6 locations in the midwest. The job demanded far more effort and hussle than any other job I've had, but building a good relationship with the community and making the perfect pizza for the customers was a delight. The thing is, genwral managers came and went often, and I occasionally had to train them while i was a shift lead. Only 1 store in the franchise of 15 or so stores could meet the impossible goal bonuses, so the general managers would have to work 80-100hrs/wk for a $40k salary. I also noticed most stores don't properly prepare the food with care, dough proofing especially. A properly proofed dough ball makes their pizzas far better, but many locations seem to neglect this. Sales tanked when Schnatter made his comments, and especially after losing the NFL sponsorship. But the rebranding, new menu items, and improved items definitely helped. When a couple of these stores still had to close, i left for a vastly less demanding job with double the pay and full benefits.
what you're both describing is true across all these chains, i did 2.5 years as a manager at dominos and it's the exact same experience, i was at a low sales store and if we got a bonus at all it was close to the 10k a year range, for $13 an hour pay (in 2019), not many benefits, and more stress than anyone should have to handle
Papa John's was my favorite pizza chain back in my single days. But that's exactly why I stopped buying from them. Less toppings and the crust was most of the pizza. I've tried it a few times since but still nothing like what they used to be.
@@nathanielrichards750 I loved 'em in High School... but, then again, I also loved skating across busy intersections on a piece of plywood with four wheels stuck to the bottom back then. Times and tastes change when you mature. It's natural.
I noticed a definite decline with my local Papa John's chain throughout the years in the general quality/size of pizza (almost every time I went there, I had always ordered a pizza with the same toppings, so it was easier to notice their degradation). I always liked them for the thick crust/cheese, but it had seemed like they were just getting flatter and flatter with it, recently I tried their extra large pizza though and it seems to have at least a similar thickness to the pizzas I loved from way back when (2008-2014-ish). The change that angered me the most though was probably when they switched from using whole tomato slices to just roma tomato chunks. I could've sworn they used actual tomato slices back then, but at this point it's been too long for me to clearly remember. I still think their pizza is pretty delicious when it has proper thickness, but that might just be because I've hardly went to/learned of any other pizza places and have a propensity to like thicker crust more, when most places/people around me like the new york style more I assume. To me (at least at my local chain), Papa John's pizza has a unique taste that you'll either hate or love, and it's definitely different than a lot of pizza places because of that. I don't really get Papa John's to get traditional pizza per-se, I get Papa John's because of their seemingly unique thick pizza, which is getting thinner and thinner; so I'm not sure if I'll really want to get it much anymore if it means having to pay almost $20 for a single two-topping pizza because the Extra Large is the only variant that actually has decent thickness...
When I was in high school, I was brought into a group of students who would once a month meet with the principal to discuss student/faculty relations. At these meetings we'd have a huge stack of Papa John's pizzas. One time two of the students gathered all the peppers and had a pepper eating contest during the meeting. There was always a bit of a struggle to obtain leftover garlic sauces afterward
@@savagedragon79 I never thought they were, but those classmates I think were from the auto body or auto tech department and not exactly people I associated with an abundance of brains
Please consider doing a video on papa Murphy's. The concept of take-and-bake pizza feels like such a relic of another era before ubiquitous food delivery. There could be an interesting story there, and the company is supposedly the fifth largest pizza chain.
The John Special was my favorite pizza from any major chain. They obviously got rid of that. Beyond that the overall quality of their ingredients has clearly suffered as well.
And, the service has dropped, too. Everytime I ordered in the past year, they've forgotten paid-for ingredients or delivered the pizzas slid and folded in the box
Wow, I had no idea that Mick's Lounge was the start of Papa John's! Back when I used to live in that area I'd occasionally visit Mick's Bar and never knew! I've never really tried their food, I'd mostly just play pool and drink beer with friends and family.
PAPA JOHN DID NOTHING WRONG. He said, "I don't want employees using that type of language in my store. It's a bad look when our employees are saying 'what up nigga' to each other within hearing rand of customers."
At that point people were just looking for a reason to kick him to the curb. When he realized that literally anything he said would be taken out of context by social media trolls, he just gave up.
It’s not that hard to not say the slur. I’m black and even in my meetings with my job over diversity and inclusion training, I don’t feel the need to say nigga or any word as I’m in a professional setting. He’s an adult. Self control goes a long way and saves oneself from embarrassment
My biggest complaint about Papa Johns is that they don’t competitively price their food compared to the other big four. They are definitely the most expensive out of the others and they aren’t even that much better quality.
Papa John's delivery fee is $6.50 in my area compared to "cheap" dominoes $8.50. Not to mention you can get a large works (Supreme pizza) for 13.99 at papa johns which is a hefty pizza, vs. A medium 2 topping at dominos 7.99 with skimpy toppings and sauce their pizzas are dry
There's a reason why they're more expensive... check out the Food Wars video series and learn about all the fucking chemicals Dominos uses, compared to Papa John's which literally just uses 5 ingredients, the only maybe controversial one being soybean oil given the history of Monsanto.
John Schnatter the founder said "Colonel Sanders called blacks n--s” it was a quote, he probably should not say that but come on he is quoting someone. What's next my English teacher gets fired for reading the n-word. Hope he is having a good retirement didn't deserve to have to watch his pizzas turn to crap.
As a former delivery driver for the company back in the early 2000's, the taste and flavor has massively gone downhill with their pizzas. They never competitively price their pizza versus Dominos and Pizza Hut. They also skimp on the ingredients, especially with meats. Edit: I may give them another try with the recent changes, as I've not eaten their pizza since prior the pandemic.
Not sure where they stand now (the locations near me closed), but as of like 2017 they were still good. The cheese and dough were always better than other chains and the garlic sauce helped too, but I'm a fan of breaded crust in general. As for pricing, Papa John's was much better priced than Pizza Hut in Chicagoland if you used the promotions on their website. Not sure if Pizza Hut does similar, but I was surprised how expensive it was when my friend ordered it.
@mojodom . . . interesting you noted about Papa Johns skimping on ingredients; as I recall in their TV ad campaign some 20 years ago they promoted themselves with being generous with toppings . . . which flew in the face of reality, as the local PJ was so skimpy with the toppings that it was more in the order of "sprinklings" instead of "toppings."
It seems like I have the same experience as a lot of others were I used to love papa johns and thought it was the best pizza chain by far. But around the john schnatter controversy it seemed that the quality got really bad at the locations near me. I see all the fast food tier lists people make and papa johns is always at the bottom and I remember when it was sooo good. I've had it not too long ago and It seemed okay but now I order from local chains or pizza hut if I want stuffed crust. The one thing I will still praise papa johns over is their website. the other top 4 websites are so awful in comparison and that is the one thing Ill always appreciate about them.
I order pizza from Papa John's when I'm at work downtown and it's pretty good, still miles better than any Pizza Hut pies I've had in the past 4 years.
Nothing beats local pizza. I know not everyone has a local place, and not all local places are good, but if you have a local pizza joint you haven't tried, try them.
I live in an area where there's almost 2 on every block AND a Dominos. And even then, Dominos is the only national chain that even did well. We had a Little Ceasars for a year and it didn't do well. Of course, it was in a really stupidly small tucked away area. There was a Johns a town over, but it was taken over by a local chain well before 2017.
I can't fathom not having mom and pop pizza shops. Nearest Popa John to me is at least a 30 minutes away. Same with Pizza The Hut. Local places are the only option. And thank God.
Try living in a small town in Texas. Pizza is almost non existent down here. San Antonio and El Paso are rated some of the worst pizza cities in America lol. But hey we have the world's best BBQ to that's cool and really solid Mexican food
I remember when I first went to Papa John's here in Spain (they opened a restaurant in my neighbourhood like four years ago), it quickly became my favorite chain pizzeria. However, like a year later or so the recipes changed. It's still better than Domino's but why did they change the recipe?
Because cheaper ingredients while selling pizza for the same or a higher price nets more executive profit. Its why everything in the US is shit quality. We are pay up for shit quality food/items so a few douchey billionaires can become trillionaires. And any time we even ask to solve this, we get called communists. This country fucking sucks.
The comments thing is beyond ridiculous, because he was literally saying a list of words that were inappropriate and not OK to use, but because he said the n word, because he was listing words that you should not say, they attacked him and called him racist.
I'm sorry, the whole John being racist is clearly just overblown. It's the typical social media being idiotic. Now I get if he isn't the CEO but without him, the pizza isn't the same.
In college there was a Papa John's right next to campus and the next closest pizza place was a mile away. One of the best pizza's I ever had. Have had them since college, I moved across town and the closest one is still next the college, and there are 6 other pizza places that are closer.
It's all about the leadership at the store level. I lived across a Domino's Pizza in Kalamazoo, Mi. The owner operator was there frequently and got to know his customers. Shouts out Rogers Galloway!!
@@CardShark_Chris My hometown Domino's went to crap after the owner got divorced and his wife got the business. The new owner delivered (she caused higher than normal turnover) and they actually stopped delivering to us because of our "vicious" dog...that would simply walk next to the drivers. Every other driver loved visiting our friendly dog. Being in high school aged I knew most people there and they all hated the new owner. Her daughter took over and it got worse for employees because she was Karen before "Karen" existed.
Papa Johns doesn't taste the greatest and has cardboard crust, but since Covid hit it's been the only pizza joint in my area to have reliable delivery. Dominos and Pizza Hut frequently cancels orders due to lack of drivers, so now they're essentially carryout only in my book. Papa John definitely got railroaded though. We live in a time where the media is misleading at best, and the average reader usually doesn't look past the headline.
I’ve always loved papa John’s. It’s been my favorite since I was a child. Partly for quality, but now, also in part for nostalgia. A couple years ago they changed their supplier for pepperchinis which one of my favorite things about their deliveries. But lately everything seems like it’s going downhill. I see it across the board at all restaurants. I contribute it to rising ingredient costs and a general lack of pride in the workforce
I remember as a kid growing up in the 2000’s being super psyched when my Mom would order us Papa John’s. I hadn’t had it in years, but I ordered a pizza from them a few weeks ago. It was nowhere near the quality of what it used to be. Dissapointing to say the least.
Their pizza is the best in my honest opinion. Out of the big pizza chains. Double sauce it up, pick it up for carryout if out and about. Very reasonable prices and simple and effective rewards program. ✨ Bite the Pepperino pepper and squeeze it on pizza, add some crushed red pepper and drizzle some garlic sauce on the crust. ✨
Hey, if you read this, you should maybe look into doing a video about Farm and Fleet and Fleet Farm. They’re two stores that are almost identical, but are owned by different companies. It could be an interesting thing to look into, since they’re competing stores that have lots of crazy madeup backstories for why they both are so similar. Just a thought, love your videos!
In the 90s, papa John's paid well enough that my dad was a delivery driver and we still had a house+2 cars. Now, the one up the street has been "hiring managers" for the last 6 years at least.
It's really all the same ingredients you get at pizza hut. The sauce is different but I worked at both places and it's all packaged the same they just label the box's different.
Are you the same person that says there is no inflation or the border is secure? They use the cheapest garbage they can find. The pizza is crap. The sign should just be a 🤮 on the wall. I mean seriously there is a reason 3/4 of the stores in my state have shut down.
Just in case someone hasn't caught up with the story: He was literally given "examples of racism" to read out loud on the call for some kind of anti-racism training. As ridiculous as it is, a set-up indeed.
What do I think? I can't believe you skipped the current lawsuit between John and this own company. He's been selling his stake just to keep the lawsuit going against the company's legal stalling. The suit in the first place revolves around the company underhandedly ousting him against their duty to protect him when they knew both accusations against both him and the company image was a lie.
I've given them another try recently, I had the Garden Fresh pizza and it tasted the same as I remember 5-7 years ago. Breadsticks were also delicious. The only negative thing imo is they got rid of delivery drivers and now exclusively use services like DoorDash.
Papa Johns employee here. We do still have first party delivery drivers (at least where I work), but we can call for a DoorDash driver to come and deliver for us if we don’t have a driver that either wants to take it or we just don’t have anyone to take it at all at that moment because they are all on a delivery run at that moment.
@@VMWashington25 ours had delivery drivers, but got rid of them in favor of doordash. And that's a poor excuse as well, doordash do not have pizza hot bags and on their way to you the pizza gets cold. And plus the people aren't vetted (for all we know it's a felon delivering you your pizza).
@@matty2icyy I'd rather wait for a first party delivery driver than to have doordash deliver my food, I hate getting cold pizza, every time it's been a doordash driver it's cold pizza.
@@madmax2069 Yeah that’s understandable, we use DoorDash to keep our Out The Door time low. Although I will say some DoorDashers do have hot bags, and if they don’t they will usually ask for one and we will give them one if we have any.
I remember way back when, we'd have Friday Night Magic and pool money together to get pizzas from Papa John's, and it arrived at the game store after the second round, usually, and we'd take a little extra time to enjoy some food and chat before continuing the event. I once made the mistake of putting garlic sauce on the entire pizza I had, rendering it beyond my capacity to handle. These days, I rarely have their pizza; Mom usually goes to Papa Murphy's for a big pizza or to King Soopers for a cheap pizza.
The way that John was done dirty by his board shows the danger of taking your company public. Once you do, it isn't yours anymore (especially if you only retain 30%) and investors often like to oust founders because they think they know better. I'm not a fan of when they manufacture a controversy instead of just admitting that they want to take over and have the votes to do it.
In Korea, Domino's is the big American Pizza chain, but it is really localized, featuring a constantly changing and updating menu (think like McDonald's Japan or Baskin-Robbins). I prefer the smaller Papa John's (we use the old logo still^^) as it is more consistent, and it tastes closer to American style Pizza. Nothing against local brands like Mr. Pizza or Avalon (I love them too), but when you want American style you want American^^ We actually had the Double Cheeseburger pizza last night at my nephew's request. It is probably my favorite American brand Pizza, if I am being honest, but like all American brands, it is so expensive (maybe the equivalent of like 30 USD?).
Update! All of the UA-cam commercials in Korea now have the new logo, but the restaurants themselves (at least in central Seoul) have the old logo on the buildings. Still my favorite "American style" Pizza^^
@TheSwaggiiBabii Waaaay more expensive. I bought a family size pizza for our last baseball game and it was over 40 bucks! It tasted great, but that is 4 bucks a slice^^ㅋ
As a former papa johns delivery driver during 2021 the job was alright until you find out the unspoken cost of spending double on your car maintenance. The big gripe I had was just the long hours and overtime I even had to stay almost midnight just to do dishes that only two people do each day.
These chains are notorious for taking advantage of younger people, especially men / boys. The managers know that only males will dump trash, mop floors, clean restrooms, do heavy lifting , etc. Girls are only for doing two things: taking orders, and sitting in the back doing paperwork as "managers". Screw those owners who sold out their own sex / race. Let their franchises die slowly as the Millennials refuse to work at menial jobs for a buck.
Ah yes, my first gig after hs lol. This was like 2010. It was in fact fun slapping the dough around, not so fun on a Friday or Saturday being extremely busy with a full screen. The best was when there was an error on an order and just shared the pizza in the back.
My city has no corporate Papa Johns restaurants because there's a pre-existing local chain of the same name keeping them out of their exclusion zone. I've always loved our local Papa Johns and was very disappointed as a kid to realize the chain ones out of town were not the same.
They have very good breadsticks and sides better than all the chains. I feel they should upgrade or rework the pizzas. There sauce use to be so good. My local one is not very consistent with the pizza
I just have to say, putting the CEO controversies aside, I have never understood the dislike for the taste of their pizzas. They are truly my favorite. A lot of sauce, a lot of flavor, melt-in-your-mouth bread with a garlic tang to it. And don't forget the pepper and garlic sauce in every box! I always feel like I'm paying for a better experience when I eat Papa John's.
I loved Papa John's when I was a kid ('90s). I thought it was hands down the best pizza chain, and it was super filling as well, giving you great value for your money. By the time I was a teenager, I felt their pizza had _really_ gone down hill, or more specifically their quality control. I remember our family ordering a pizza and when it arrived, literally half the pizza didn't even have any cheese on it. I eventually stopped getting their pizza since it was always a crapshoot on if you'd get something edible or not. A few years ago (pre-COVID) I decided I'd give them a chance again. Called up their store, and they refused to answer the phone. Checked their website and that location was listed as open and was even taking online orders. Called them again, once again no answer. No idea how their pizza tastes these days, but if ignoring their customers who are trying to place orders is how they run things, I have no interest in giving them my business and haven't since then.
Why didn't you order online then. I work at a non pizza chain but often times we miss phone calls because we are in the middle of something. There was also a week when the phone wouldn't work so we had to get a new one and I bet we missed dozens of calls.
A lot of pizza places have slowly cut staffing that makes it a waste of time to answer phone calls. Often times customers call and they don't know what they want, they ask you about specials, or find some way to waste valuable time, and it's not like you can just hang up on them. It's infuriating when you're at peak business, hustling, trying to keep everything in order and then you get stuck on the phone with a customer who's taking their sweet time getting their order in. I know Pizza Hut has a call center and you'll get transferred there if we don't answer. If you had a complaint your call would be transferred back to the store with a different ringtone which indicated that it's important, probably a complaint or something we need to resolve. It sucks but companies are going to find subtle ways to cut costs as food and labor costs rise at rapid rates.
@@jakeblack2870 Interestingly, yesterday I just ordered a pizza from Pizza Hut for the first time in awhile and I was surprised that I got what sounded like a call center in India. When I picked up my pizza, I asked the woman at the counter about it because I found it odd. I wasn't mad or rude, but she told me to press the button to be directed to the store if I order anything in the future. She said most people don't want to talk to the call center. I used to work at a pizza place, and on busy nights we'd have a couple people dedicated to taking calls. It's called customer service, and is an important part of running a business. God forbid, the executives take a tiny cut out of their multi-million-dollar salaries to provide a few more jobs for the working-class Americans that keep their business running.
@@NoName-ik2du I never said that I enjoyed it being the way it is with regards to the call center, I'm telling you as a former employee that it's no longer realistic for the employees at chain pizza places to answer phones on a consistent basis. I'm well aware of how frustrating the call center is, not a single employee I've worked with enjoys dealing with the issues they cause. What you need to understand is that these chain restaurants are trying to push you to order online to cut labor costs. I'm assuming you haven't worked in the industry in a while but you don't seem to understand that things change. Don't blame the employees that are prioritizing keeping the store afloat rather than unnecessarily dealing with a customer who could be ordering online. Most chain places no longer have employees whose biggest priority is phones. I was in the industry from 2012-2021 and I've seen this change happen slowly over time. If you're not a fan of it I understand, but there's not much the employees can do about it. You're better off ordering online or better yet finding a local pizza place you enjoy. Finally, assuming that all the stores are run by a competent staff, Papa Johns is better than Pizza Hut or Dominos as someone who has worked at all three.
@@jakeblack2870 Oh, no doubt, I understand it's not the employees' fault and never take it out on them. Apologies if my message implied it was the employees' fault. Customers who get mad at staff or mad at people in call centers irk me. The customer's problem is rarely that employee's fault. That employee is just doing their best to try to help you within the guidelines that the company imposes on them. My irritation in this thread is 100% directed at the executives in these companies who hog a disproportionate amount of profits and then try to cut costs any way they can by reducing staff and making things harder for the employees who are left holding the bag. When I see a company start to cut costs in this fashion, I take my business elsewhere. I do often go local, but I'm also seeing more and more of my favorite local businesses getting bought out by crappy conglomo chains.
Papa John did nothing wrong as someone whos listened to the entire interview his words were taken out of context, as crazy as he sounded in that interview later he was right the pizza just isn't as good as it use to be.
I also work as a driver for the company. I get given in between 4 (mid) - 10 hour (open) shifts a day. I would do on average 17 deliveries a day, which isn't that bad tbf. It's rather respectable, and I have noticed some stores picked up in revenue, but others remained on a downhill trend because pizzas are quite expensive around the UK. I tried the pizzas, and I'd say they're okay. Nothing to shout about. But definitely not worth the large sums. The salary is alright for me tbf (£9.50/hr + £1.30/delivery + tips) as I'm in Uni. If you can trust my views, that's lovely. Otherwise, I can understand if you don't.
At my first apartment back in 2000, one of the people working at the local franchise was named Andy. We dubbed him “Stupid Andy” and would order on speakerphone to share the pain/entertainment with roommates and friends. After Papa John’s introduced online ordering in 2001 we never talked to “Stupid Andy” again. I give Stupid Andy a little bit of credit for the early success of online ordering. 😂
I experienced Papa John's pizza when I moved to Bowling Green, KY, where Papa John's got their start. Papa John's became my favorite pizza for a decade. It use to be the best but not so much these days. It doesn't have the same quality. These days, Papa John's is mediocre.
Think they're one of the better pizzas that has a crust worth eating next to Domino's. For the founder, I got what he meant, but unfortunately "cancelation" was becoming too much within those years.
I remember Papa John's advertising "Better ingredients, better pizza" They bragged about using 100% mozzarella cheese, and they shamed the other pizza chains into switching to 100% mozzarella, but now they say that their cheese is MADE WITH mozzarella cheese. That is not the same as actually using 100% mozzarella cheese. It's just tricky advertising. And their product quality has not been as good as it was when they actually used 100% mozzarella. It's a snow job. The other major chains are doing the same thing. Check their advertising. Often they talk about the importance of quality ingredients, etc., and they talk about the importance of top quality cheese , blah blah blah. It's all just talk. None of them are using 100% mozzarella cheese.
I stopped eating Papa John's in the mid 1990's. Didn't care for the pizza. Plus I hated those peppers in the box. Made the pizza taste like that pepper. If I wanted peppers. I would ask for peppers on my pizza. Garlic sauce. I threw that away. Just like Papa John's. I don't order from Domino's (when they change their taste back in 2010) or Pizza Hut. To me, the big chains have awful pizza. Rather buy a Godfather's individual size pizza from a gas station before a pizza from the big three.
Papa John's was game changing in the late 90s and early 00s as far as tasty delivery pizza was concerned.. I probably haven't had it in 15 years though..
Personally, as far as these large chains go, I legitimately prefer little Caesars in terms of taste. The fact that they're damn cheap is a plus. But we also have a lot of great local pizza places around me, and I usually do that unless I'm throwing a party.
I use to think papa johns was the best but in the last couple years I've hated how much less quality it is. At this point I don't even think of them when ordering pizza. Marcos pizza is the new papa johns. They should've kept the original owner
Papa Johns doing stuffed crust was a HUGE game changer for me, I know some frozen pizzas also do stuffed crust, but frozen pizzas are just not as good as a fresh pizza from a chain in my opinion. The nearest Pizza Hut or Little Caesar’s is quite a drive from where I live, but there’s a Papa Johns right down the road, so being able to get a fresh stuffed crust pepperoni pizza less than 5 minutes away from the house is awesome. I’ve never had a problem with their quality.
Seriously. If you're going to "rebrand" to distance yourself from the founder, then you might want to think about removing the founders name from the company all together.
Papa Johns was big in my small town up though sometime in the 00s. It was the go to for all school events. It feels like it shifted to other places towards 2010. A fun memory I have though is going on a field tried local Papa Johns where we got to make make our own pizzas.
Horrible company, horrible founder (both business wise and on a personal level), horrible owners currently. Treat the staff like complete garbage. And the quality of the pizza today is night and day compared to where it was 20 (and even 10) years ago. Edit - I worked for them a few times over the past 20+ years. That's why I know they suck. Lol
What I'll say about Papa John's, is that I always thought their pizza tasted of at least a slightly higher quality than Pizza Hut or Dominos, I always saw them as like the Wendy's of those three, where Wendy's is just a little bit better than McDonald's and Burger King in terms of quality, and they got my business more as a result I would say. I think they're genuinely decent pizza, nothing spectacular and I usually go local these days if I ever get pizza, but they're definitely far from the worst I've ever had. I think they did John dirty, nothing he said was that outrageous to the extent where people should have been boycotting Papa John's, but I feel like there was this media slant that didn't tell the truth about what it was that he was saying, so everyone just assumed he said something derogatory. I think his mistake was even saying that word at all though, so I get it in that sense that he's not supposed to say it, but when you take it into context of the way he said it, he was actually trying to convey how bad that word is.
@@NeutralityTsar some channels yeah. Each channel is a self contained community tho. It's not like Twitter where everyone is always on edge. But some channels thrive on either intercommunity drama or talking about external dramas which in turn causes comment section drama.
Very interesting video; have not had Papa John's in a while, rather go for Domino's or something but might give it a try again. I find it funny that cancel culture is the reason why we don't longer have a public face for the company. I wonder how overall successful or not is linking a company's public image with that of a single person - since if that person loses reputation, so will the company.
I think this is why most companies try to be "PC." It is safer to not offend anyone and instead keep the focus on the product. That way the maximum amount of people can be attracted to the product and keep the money rolling in. As long as the face of the company stays clean, it can be great for advertising. When it fails though, it can fail big. Ask Subway about Jared lol.
I pretty much like all pizza . . . Domino's, Little Ceasars and Pizza Hut are all gr8. Papa John's is the only 🍕 I try to avoid. The sweet sugary sauce renders the 🍕 inedible.
I like their Pizzas but I literally just saw my local Papa John's shut down, so I'm starting to think this video is released a little late and the fall is starting up again or just that the store couldn't keep up
You’re buying their pizza and other customers are. They’re never going to have better pizza than local places, but if their sales are up that’s all that matters to them.
The man had 40 pizzas in 30 days, don't underestimate him.
Make more videos soon dude.
Also Shaq Daddy ate the whole pie.
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how fat 💀
Hey dude, you watch company man and airtime thrills. It’s cool seeing you in some great channels, you are truly diversified.
Nah, I'm going to underestimate him. 😈
I had never tried papa John's until I heard about the controversy. Then I sought out papa John's to make sure I gave my business to a company the makes people I hate angry. It just so happened that Papa John's is utterly delicious and became my favorite pizza place
Papa John's is literally the only pizza company my entire school uses. They have the cheapest pizza that is relatively decent
I liked it as a kid and now i find it disgustingly sweet as though they added sugar to the sauce by just dumping it in.
I haven’t had a papa John’s pizza since he left. I won’t in the future either. All Dominos now.
I get papa johns about once a month. It's not about the guy, its the consistency.
I don't eat Papa John's, but I also don't measure the world in morality like triggered SJW's or pearl-clutching conservatives, so the only time I'll care what Schnatter says is if it involves changing the recipe of the food for the worse.
I stared buying more papa johns after his comments
You might think John is a bad guy, but he isn't. He's just based.
PJs was always good but pizza is subjective
I kind of love how there was no “secret” to their success other than using good ingredients & making good food.
And no Yum brands taking over and screwing it up.
The ingredients aren’t that good and the food isn’t that good. It’s 90% marketing. The pizzas are equivalent quality to little Caesar’s.
@@GhostKing6790little Caesars is not as good as Papa johns
@@joseresendiz9161agreed I'm biased because I've worked at Papa John's for over 2 years though. Our quality did take a small hit when we stopped cutting our own veggies though. Now we get them on the truck and they're alright.
@@GhostKing6790
Incorrect.
I remember when if you got Papa John’s for a party people were impressed. It was like oh you’re willing to spend more for quality- this must be special. Now it’s just another National chain.
So true lol! I always hated when companies I worked for would cheap out for Dominos. Papa Johns really was good.
It's funny, because I actually always had a bad opinion of PJs because the franchised location in my hometown always made such terrible pizza (late 90s). But once I moved away, I found most other places made really decent pizza and my opinion has since changed and I actually quite like their stuff.
@@bamafencer12 It was always trash
PJs is still miles ahead of dominos and pizza hut at least in the UK. the latter 2 taste like cardboard frozen junk. They give me 50% offers sometimes but i stay with PJs
Really? That sounds like Pizza Pizza. We don’t have Papa John’s in Canada (at least not in Ottawa). We have some American chains, like Pizza Hut and Domino’s. But we usually go to local (in my case Ottawa) chains like Gabriel’s, or Mr. Mozzarella. But if you had Pizza Pizza at your birthday as a kid, you were the man. That or the Mr. Sub Party Sub. 😂
I wish you showed the famous “I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days'' clip
Truly a classic
(Profuse sweating intensifies)
That doesnt mean he ate the whole pizza. You can have just a slice of each
to determine the current quality.
it's retarted, as most thing written in twitter and don't serve well for any analysis
Duly noted@@adamsaldana5462
My family used to be a Papa Johns family, but after 2004 (the fist time that john retired as ceo) our local papa johns location started to really screw up our orders... like every time we would order pizza something was wrong. So we switched to dominos, but then they changed their sauce recipe... eventually we settled on a smaller midwest chain called Toppers. never looked back after that point lol
Toppers is great!
18 years of getting it completely wrong and still in business!
That’s great
I wish it severed in Washington State (Where I am)
There are so many better pizza options than the big 3 or 4 chains.
10:23 🤮
I love how you sometimes sound like you're laughing when you say things, thanks for staying consistent with your videos!
One of the best choices papa John's has made was opening locations near colleges. I work at a university and when I need food for many there's very little choice
Very true, there is one right next to my campus
There's one across from my dorm and if you need food at 1am it's the only place open nearby
I lead shifts and drove at 6 locations in the midwest. The job demanded far more effort and hussle than any other job I've had, but building a good relationship with the community and making the perfect pizza for the customers was a delight. The thing is, genwral managers came and went often, and I occasionally had to train them while i was a shift lead. Only 1 store in the franchise of 15 or so stores could meet the impossible goal bonuses, so the general managers would have to work 80-100hrs/wk for a $40k salary. I also noticed most stores don't properly prepare the food with care, dough proofing especially. A properly proofed dough ball makes their pizzas far better, but many locations seem to neglect this. Sales tanked when Schnatter made his comments, and especially after losing the NFL sponsorship. But the rebranding, new menu items, and improved items definitely helped. When a couple of these stores still had to close, i left for a vastly less demanding job with double the pay and full benefits.
I'm currently at GM at Papa John's and yea it's super demanding for right at about 40k
what you're both describing is true across all these chains, i did 2.5 years as a manager at dominos and it's the exact same experience, i was at a low sales store and if we got a bonus at all it was close to the 10k a year range, for $13 an hour pay (in 2019), not many benefits, and more stress than anyone should have to handle
the last two large pizzas i had from there had, no lie, crusts that were over 1.5 inches wide. making the diameter of actual pizza about a medium.
Wow that is a rip off!
@@ninja1man4u No... that's an average Papa John's experience. It's garbage.
Papa John's was my favorite pizza chain back in my single days. But that's exactly why I stopped buying from them. Less toppings and the crust was most of the pizza. I've tried it a few times since but still nothing like what they used to be.
@@nathanielrichards750 I loved 'em in High School... but, then again, I also loved skating across busy intersections on a piece of plywood with four wheels stuck to the bottom back then. Times and tastes change when you mature. It's natural.
i only go for their thin crusts now
I noticed a definite decline with my local Papa John's chain throughout the years in the general quality/size of pizza (almost every time I went there, I had always ordered a pizza with the same toppings, so it was easier to notice their degradation). I always liked them for the thick crust/cheese, but it had seemed like they were just getting flatter and flatter with it, recently I tried their extra large pizza though and it seems to have at least a similar thickness to the pizzas I loved from way back when (2008-2014-ish).
The change that angered me the most though was probably when they switched from using whole tomato slices to just roma tomato chunks. I could've sworn they used actual tomato slices back then, but at this point it's been too long for me to clearly remember. I still think their pizza is pretty delicious when it has proper thickness, but that might just be because I've hardly went to/learned of any other pizza places and have a propensity to like thicker crust more, when most places/people around me like the new york style more I assume.
To me (at least at my local chain), Papa John's pizza has a unique taste that you'll either hate or love, and it's definitely different than a lot of pizza places because of that. I don't really get Papa John's to get traditional pizza per-se, I get Papa John's because of their seemingly unique thick pizza, which is getting thinner and thinner; so I'm not sure if I'll really want to get it much anymore if it means having to pay almost $20 for a single two-topping pizza because the Extra Large is the only variant that actually has decent thickness...
they did use slices, they are diced now.
The reason why the pizzas are not as thick is because we use a dough spinner instead of hand-stretching.
When I was in high school, I was brought into a group of students who would once a month meet with the principal to discuss student/faculty relations. At these meetings we'd have a huge stack of Papa John's pizzas. One time two of the students gathered all the peppers and had a pepper eating contest during the meeting. There was always a bit of a struggle to obtain leftover garlic sauces afterward
This is a nice memory 💜
Those aren't spicy peppers.
@@savagedragon79 I never thought they were, but those classmates I think were from the auto body or auto tech department and not exactly people I associated with an abundance of brains
@@FlinxWeasel LOL they're just pepperoncini. Maybe a little hot if you eat the seeds and all, but definitely nothing worth having a contest over. :D
sounds like having a bread eating contest
Please consider doing a video on papa Murphy's. The concept of take-and-bake pizza feels like such a relic of another era before ubiquitous food delivery. There could be an interesting story there, and the company is supposedly the fifth largest pizza chain.
How about Papa Louie's there's a Papa Louie's pizza in Lawton, Oklahoma
They’re definitely on the downfall right now. Their quality has gone way down hill the last few years.
The John Special was my favorite pizza from any major chain. They obviously got rid of that. Beyond that the overall quality of their ingredients has clearly suffered as well.
And, the service has dropped, too. Everytime I ordered in the past year, they've forgotten paid-for ingredients or delivered the pizzas slid and folded in the box
Their balance sheet says otherwise but what ever.
I dunno their buffalo wings are still the best imo
You’re opinion of the quality of food doesn’t matter. It’s all about sales.
Wow, I had no idea that Mick's Lounge was the start of Papa John's! Back when I used to live in that area I'd occasionally visit Mick's Bar and never knew! I've never really tried their food, I'd mostly just play pool and drink beer with friends and family.
PAPA JOHN DID NOTHING WRONG.
He said, "I don't want employees using that type of language in my store. It's a bad look when our employees are saying 'what up nigga' to each other within hearing rand of customers."
still shouldn't have said it.
At that point people were just looking for a reason to kick him to the curb. When he realized that literally anything he said would be taken out of context by social media trolls, he just gave up.
It’s not that hard to not say the slur. I’m black and even in my meetings with my job over diversity and inclusion training, I don’t feel the need to say nigga or any word as I’m in a professional setting. He’s an adult. Self control goes a long way and saves oneself from embarrassment
BINGO! You are exactly right! PC people MAKE ME SICK.
@@boomerpatrol2838 You shouldn't have posted. You just made a fool of yourself.
My biggest complaint about Papa Johns is that they don’t competitively price their food compared to the other big four. They are definitely the most expensive out of the others and they aren’t even that much better quality.
yeah, way more expensive but way better than Dominos. Pizza Hut is a close second for me
Papa John's delivery fee is $6.50 in my area compared to "cheap" dominoes $8.50. Not to mention you can get a large works (Supreme pizza) for 13.99 at papa johns which is a hefty pizza, vs. A medium 2 topping at dominos 7.99 with skimpy toppings and sauce their pizzas are dry
Yep, today's pizzas are too pricey. However, their pizzas are still mouthwatering.
@@99Doogs fr
There's a reason why they're more expensive... check out the Food Wars video series and learn about all the fucking chemicals Dominos uses, compared to Papa John's which literally just uses 5 ingredients, the only maybe controversial one being soybean oil given the history of Monsanto.
John Schnatter the founder said "Colonel Sanders called blacks n--s” it was a quote, he probably should not say that but come on he is quoting someone. What's next my English teacher gets fired for reading the n-word. Hope he is having a good retirement didn't deserve to have to watch his pizzas turn to crap.
That still doesn't make it right. Why even say it to your employees. Pfft
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld not something you should say in the workplace but also something you shouldn't get fired for he had no ill intent
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Go to hell. "Still doesn't make it right..." What an asshat comment.
After all of the BS I still support the founder.
Based.
It seems that it used to be Papa John’s, Pizza Hut, then Domino’s in order of taste and overall quality.
Now it’s in the exact reverse order.
Good analysis
Dominos hasn’t changed in 10 years. It’s fing gross
@@rileycopple7896 they recently changed their pizzas like 2 or 3 years ago
Wrong both times. Pizza Hut will always be superior and dominos is, as you said, definite last, low tier crap.
@@TheAbandonedAccount7 At least Papa John's doesn't have an unnecessary salad bar
John Schnatter did nothing wrong. He was canceled, and he was right about the kneeling in the woke nfl.
As a former delivery driver for the company back in the early 2000's, the taste and flavor has massively gone downhill with their pizzas. They never competitively price their pizza versus Dominos and Pizza Hut. They also skimp on the ingredients, especially with meats.
Edit: I may give them another try with the recent changes, as I've not eaten their pizza since prior the pandemic.
Not sure where they stand now (the locations near me closed), but as of like 2017 they were still good. The cheese and dough were always better than other chains and the garlic sauce helped too, but I'm a fan of breaded crust in general. As for pricing, Papa John's was much better priced than Pizza Hut in Chicagoland if you used the promotions on their website. Not sure if Pizza Hut does similar, but I was surprised how expensive it was when my friend ordered it.
That risk is yours to take. Be warned though. I wouldn't waste my money or time.
Their pizza sucks now. Save your money.
True and their sauce is so iffy I go locally now, never chain
@mojodom . . . interesting you noted about Papa Johns skimping on ingredients; as I recall in their TV ad campaign some 20 years ago they promoted themselves with being generous with toppings . . . which flew in the face of reality, as the local PJ was so skimpy with the toppings that it was more in the order of "sprinklings" instead of "toppings."
It seems like I have the same experience as a lot of others were I used to love papa johns and thought it was the best pizza chain by far. But around the john schnatter controversy it seemed that the quality got really bad at the locations near me. I see all the fast food tier lists people make and papa johns is always at the bottom and I remember when it was sooo good. I've had it not too long ago and It seemed okay but now I order from local chains or pizza hut if I want stuffed crust. The one thing I will still praise papa johns over is their website. the other top 4 websites are so awful in comparison and that is the one thing Ill always appreciate about them.
According to Papa John after his ousting they decreased the quality of their ingredients dramatically, which would account for that.
“The day of reckoning will come”
- Papa John
Cheese and bread will be the cornerstone of this utopia
What did he mean by that? Was it just business?
And it will be here in 30 minutes or less... oh wait, that's Domino's
I order pizza from Papa John's when I'm at work downtown and it's pretty good, still miles better than any Pizza Hut pies I've had in the past 4 years.
Should rename it to papa shaq
Ikr. 😅
Nothing beats local pizza. I know not everyone has a local place, and not all local places are good, but if you have a local pizza joint you haven't tried, try them.
@ghost mall good, local pizza costs twice as much.
I live in an area where there's almost 2 on every block AND a Dominos. And even then, Dominos is the only national chain that even did well. We had a Little Ceasars for a year and it didn't do well. Of course, it was in a really stupidly small tucked away area. There was a Johns a town over, but it was taken over by a local chain well before 2017.
I can't fathom not having mom and pop pizza shops. Nearest Popa John to me is at least a 30 minutes away. Same with Pizza The Hut. Local places are the only option. And thank God.
@@John_Locke_108 We have so many in my area, I can just walk from my house to one of them quicker than a delivery car.
Try living in a small town in Texas. Pizza is almost non existent down here. San Antonio and El Paso are rated some of the worst pizza cities in America lol. But hey we have the world's best BBQ to that's cool and really solid Mexican food
I’m surprised there wasn’t a bit more of a story behind Shaq’s involvement
I remember when I first went to Papa John's here in Spain (they opened a restaurant in my neighbourhood like four years ago), it quickly became my favorite chain pizzeria. However, like a year later or so the recipes changed. It's still better than Domino's but why did they change the recipe?
Same reason as all the others, money
Money
Because cheaper ingredients while selling pizza for the same or a higher price nets more executive profit. Its why everything in the US is shit quality. We are pay up for shit quality food/items so a few douchey billionaires can become trillionaires. And any time we even ask to solve this, we get called communists. This country fucking sucks.
Because John Schatter's no longer in charge.
It’s always sucked
They did Papa dirty
I love your channel there’s a restaurant in North Carolina call Bojangles I would love for you to do a story about them
Wow! You still have a Bojangles? Haven't seen one of those in _years._
@@rareblues78daddy they are all over the place in NC and growing
@@samhainnc9416 Nice!
The comments thing is beyond ridiculous, because he was literally saying a list of words that were inappropriate and not OK to use, but because he said the n word, because he was listing words that you should not say, they attacked him and called him racist.
You are in the minority of sentient beings these days. It was one of the most vicious deceitful PC things I've seen.
It’s not Papa John’s without Papa…
I'm sorry, the whole John being racist is clearly just overblown. It's the typical social media being idiotic. Now I get if he isn't the CEO but without him, the pizza isn't the same.
In college there was a Papa John's right next to campus and the next closest pizza place was a mile away. One of the best pizza's I ever had. Have had them since college, I moved across town and the closest one is still next the college, and there are 6 other pizza places that are closer.
It's all about the leadership at the store level. I lived across a Domino's Pizza in Kalamazoo, Mi. The owner operator was there frequently and got to know his customers. Shouts out Rogers Galloway!!
@@CardShark_Chris My hometown Domino's went to crap after the owner got divorced and his wife got the business. The new owner delivered (she caused higher than normal turnover) and they actually stopped delivering to us because of our "vicious" dog...that would simply walk next to the drivers. Every other driver loved visiting our friendly dog. Being in high school aged I knew most people there and they all hated the new owner. Her daughter took over and it got worse for employees because she was Karen before "Karen" existed.
Papa Johns doesn't taste the greatest and has cardboard crust, but since Covid hit it's been the only pizza joint in my area to have reliable delivery. Dominos and Pizza Hut frequently cancels orders due to lack of drivers, so now they're essentially carryout only in my book.
Papa John definitely got railroaded though. We live in a time where the media is misleading at best, and the average reader usually doesn't look past the headline.
I’ve always loved papa John’s. It’s been my favorite since I was a child. Partly for quality, but now, also in part for nostalgia. A couple years ago they changed their supplier for pepperchinis which one of my favorite things about their deliveries. But lately everything seems like it’s going downhill. I see it across the board at all restaurants. I contribute it to rising ingredient costs and a general lack of pride in the workforce
I remember as a kid growing up in the 2000’s being super psyched when my Mom would order us Papa John’s. I hadn’t had it in years, but I ordered a pizza from them a few weeks ago. It was nowhere near the quality of what it used to be. Dissapointing to say the least.
Their pizza is the best in my honest opinion. Out of the big pizza chains. Double sauce it up, pick it up for carryout if out and about. Very reasonable prices and simple and effective rewards program.
✨ Bite the Pepperino pepper and squeeze it on pizza, add some crushed red pepper and drizzle some garlic sauce on the crust. ✨
I agree. It beats all the big chains by far.
Weird thing is he hired the PR firm that was supposed to get back from NFL fiasco which actually screwed him over by releasing part of the soundbite.
Hey, if you read this, you should maybe look into doing a video about Farm and Fleet and Fleet Farm. They’re two stores that are almost identical, but are owned by different companies. It could be an interesting thing to look into, since they’re competing stores that have lots of crazy madeup backstories for why they both are so similar. Just a thought, love your videos!
I Tried ordering papa John's a few years ago, before John outed himself as a racist. It was terrible! Never again!
In the 90s, papa John's paid well enough that my dad was a delivery driver and we still had a house+2 cars.
Now, the one up the street has been "hiring managers" for the last 6 years at least.
7:40 "I encourage you to look up his exact comments...which can't be repeated on youtube" good duck, chief xD
I always liked the topping combinations at Papa John's. So once they got stuffed crust, it was over for other pizza chains for me.
My biggest problem was the crust. Stuffed crust fixed it, now its the best chain for me.
They did John wrong the way they accused him of saying a “racial slur” what bs. Feel for em honestly.
Papa John's was my first job back in 2007. Worked there for 3 years. I still enjoy their pizza to this day.
I'm sorry to hear that
Sir Porkster your sorry huh?
@@MichaelBoyce-tm2vw Learn to read 💀
Papa Johns was good when John was in charge. Now it sucks. The quality has gone way down and the prices way up.
Papa Johns pizza is by far my favourite. The ingredients are just way higher quality in my opinion. Plus that garlic sauce is great
It's really all the same ingredients you get at pizza hut. The sauce is different but I worked at both places and it's all packaged the same they just label the box's different.
Are you the same person that says there is no inflation or the border is secure? They use the cheapest garbage they can find. The pizza is crap. The sign should just be a 🤮 on the wall. I mean seriously there is a reason 3/4 of the stores in my state have shut down.
Just in case someone hasn't caught up with the story: He was literally given "examples of racism" to read out loud on the call for some kind of anti-racism training. As ridiculous as it is, a set-up indeed.
But he's a big mean peepee poopoo head that smells!
😱😱😱
What do I think?
I can't believe you skipped the current lawsuit between John and this own company. He's been selling his stake just to keep the lawsuit going against the company's legal stalling. The suit in the first place revolves around the company underhandedly ousting him against their duty to protect him when they knew both accusations against both him and the company image was a lie.
I've given them another try recently, I had the Garden Fresh pizza and it tasted the same as I remember 5-7 years ago. Breadsticks were also delicious. The only negative thing imo is they got rid of delivery drivers and now exclusively use services like DoorDash.
Some locations do not have the driving staff for every shift so that is when they use DoorDash.
Papa Johns employee here. We do still have first party delivery drivers (at least where I work), but we can call for a DoorDash driver to come and deliver for us if we don’t have a driver that either wants to take it or we just don’t have anyone to take it at all at that moment because they are all on a delivery run at that moment.
@@VMWashington25 ours had delivery drivers, but got rid of them in favor of doordash. And that's a poor excuse as well, doordash do not have pizza hot bags and on their way to you the pizza gets cold. And plus the people aren't vetted (for all we know it's a felon delivering you your pizza).
@@matty2icyy I'd rather wait for a first party delivery driver than to have doordash deliver my food, I hate getting cold pizza, every time it's been a doordash driver it's cold pizza.
@@madmax2069 Yeah that’s understandable, we use DoorDash to keep our Out The Door time low. Although I will say some DoorDashers do have hot bags, and if they don’t they will usually ask for one and we will give them one if we have any.
Papa John's was good? their pizzas have tasted like cardboard since the early 2000s
I remember way back when, we'd have Friday Night Magic and pool money together to get pizzas from Papa John's, and it arrived at the game store after the second round, usually, and we'd take a little extra time to enjoy some food and chat before continuing the event. I once made the mistake of putting garlic sauce on the entire pizza I had, rendering it beyond my capacity to handle.
These days, I rarely have their pizza; Mom usually goes to Papa Murphy's for a big pizza or to King Soopers for a cheap pizza.
I live in NJ....what do you think I think of Papa Johns lol 👎
The way that John was done dirty by his board shows the danger of taking your company public. Once you do, it isn't yours anymore (especially if you only retain 30%) and investors often like to oust founders because they think they know better. I'm not a fan of when they manufacture a controversy instead of just admitting that they want to take over and have the votes to do it.
"done dirty"? Really? No adult uses that phrase. Please post more of your business expertise here.
God I miss John Schnatter (Ex Head of the company).
In Korea, Domino's is the big American Pizza chain, but it is really localized, featuring a constantly changing and updating menu (think like McDonald's Japan or Baskin-Robbins). I prefer the smaller Papa John's (we use the old logo still^^) as it is more consistent, and it tastes closer to American style Pizza. Nothing against local brands like Mr. Pizza or Avalon (I love them too), but when you want American style you want American^^ We actually had the Double Cheeseburger pizza last night at my nephew's request. It is probably my favorite American brand Pizza, if I am being honest, but like all American brands, it is so expensive (maybe the equivalent of like 30 USD?).
Local brands suck. I prefer Papa John's unless I'm going to a fancier sit-down place. I'd argue the pizzas are more expensive in Korea too.
Update! All of the UA-cam commercials in Korea now have the new logo, but the restaurants themselves (at least in central Seoul) have the old logo on the buildings. Still my favorite "American style" Pizza^^
@TheSwaggiiBabii Waaaay more expensive. I bought a family size pizza for our last baseball game and it was over 40 bucks! It tasted great, but that is 4 bucks a slice^^ㅋ
John was 100% set up. Feel bad for what they did to him. Imagine being forced out of your OWN COMPANY. Brutal.
Another example is Steve Jobs.
As a former papa johns delivery driver during 2021 the job was alright until you find out the unspoken cost of spending double on your car maintenance. The big gripe I had was just the long hours and overtime I even had to stay almost midnight just to do dishes that only two people do each day.
These chains are notorious for taking advantage of younger people, especially men / boys. The managers know that only males will dump trash, mop floors, clean restrooms, do heavy lifting , etc. Girls are only for doing two things: taking orders, and sitting in the back doing paperwork as "managers". Screw those owners who sold out their own sex / race. Let their franchises die slowly as the Millennials refuse to work at menial jobs for a buck.
Ah yes, my first gig after hs lol. This was like 2010. It was in fact fun slapping the dough around, not so fun on a Friday or Saturday being extremely busy with a full screen. The best was when there was an error on an order and just shared the pizza in the back.
Some things never change
Still wish they’d change the name to Shaq Daddy’s
My city has no corporate Papa Johns restaurants because there's a pre-existing local chain of the same name keeping them out of their exclusion zone. I've always loved our local Papa Johns and was very disappointed as a kid to realize the chain ones out of town were not the same.
That how it was when I stayed in Lansing, MI.
@@d.e.carter5129 Yup, Lansing is where I'm talking about
They have very good breadsticks and sides better than all the chains. I feel they should upgrade or rework the pizzas. There sauce use to be so good. My local one is not very consistent with the pizza
I just have to say, putting the CEO controversies aside, I have never understood the dislike for the taste of their pizzas. They are truly my favorite. A lot of sauce, a lot of flavor, melt-in-your-mouth bread with a garlic tang to it. And don't forget the pepper and garlic sauce in every box! I always feel like I'm paying for a better experience when I eat Papa John's.
I think the whole take a knee thing was insulting as fck. John was right.
I loved Papa John's when I was a kid ('90s). I thought it was hands down the best pizza chain, and it was super filling as well, giving you great value for your money.
By the time I was a teenager, I felt their pizza had _really_ gone down hill, or more specifically their quality control. I remember our family ordering a pizza and when it arrived, literally half the pizza didn't even have any cheese on it. I eventually stopped getting their pizza since it was always a crapshoot on if you'd get something edible or not.
A few years ago (pre-COVID) I decided I'd give them a chance again. Called up their store, and they refused to answer the phone. Checked their website and that location was listed as open and was even taking online orders. Called them again, once again no answer. No idea how their pizza tastes these days, but if ignoring their customers who are trying to place orders is how they run things, I have no interest in giving them my business and haven't since then.
Why didn't you order online then. I work at a non pizza chain but often times we miss phone calls because we are in the middle of something. There was also a week when the phone wouldn't work so we had to get a new one and I bet we missed dozens of calls.
A lot of pizza places have slowly cut staffing that makes it a waste of time to answer phone calls. Often times customers call and they don't know what they want, they ask you about specials, or find some way to waste valuable time, and it's not like you can just hang up on them. It's infuriating when you're at peak business, hustling, trying to keep everything in order and then you get stuck on the phone with a customer who's taking their sweet time getting their order in.
I know Pizza Hut has a call center and you'll get transferred there if we don't answer. If you had a complaint your call would be transferred back to the store with a different ringtone which indicated that it's important, probably a complaint or something we need to resolve.
It sucks but companies are going to find subtle ways to cut costs as food and labor costs rise at rapid rates.
@@jakeblack2870 Interestingly, yesterday I just ordered a pizza from Pizza Hut for the first time in awhile and I was surprised that I got what sounded like a call center in India.
When I picked up my pizza, I asked the woman at the counter about it because I found it odd. I wasn't mad or rude, but she told me to press the button to be directed to the store if I order anything in the future. She said most people don't want to talk to the call center.
I used to work at a pizza place, and on busy nights we'd have a couple people dedicated to taking calls. It's called customer service, and is an important part of running a business. God forbid, the executives take a tiny cut out of their multi-million-dollar salaries to provide a few more jobs for the working-class Americans that keep their business running.
@@NoName-ik2du I never said that I enjoyed it being the way it is with regards to the call center, I'm telling you as a former employee that it's no longer realistic for the employees at chain pizza places to answer phones on a consistent basis. I'm well aware of how frustrating the call center is, not a single employee I've worked with enjoys dealing with the issues they cause. What you need to understand is that these chain restaurants are trying to push you to order online to cut labor costs.
I'm assuming you haven't worked in the industry in a while but you don't seem to understand that things change. Don't blame the employees that are prioritizing keeping the store afloat rather than unnecessarily dealing with a customer who could be ordering online. Most chain places no longer have employees whose biggest priority is phones. I was in the industry from 2012-2021 and I've seen this change happen slowly over time.
If you're not a fan of it I understand, but there's not much the employees can do about it. You're better off ordering online or better yet finding a local pizza place you enjoy. Finally, assuming that all the stores are run by a competent staff, Papa Johns is better than Pizza Hut or Dominos as someone who has worked at all three.
@@jakeblack2870 Oh, no doubt, I understand it's not the employees' fault and never take it out on them. Apologies if my message implied it was the employees' fault.
Customers who get mad at staff or mad at people in call centers irk me. The customer's problem is rarely that employee's fault. That employee is just doing their best to try to help you within the guidelines that the company imposes on them.
My irritation in this thread is 100% directed at the executives in these companies who hog a disproportionate amount of profits and then try to cut costs any way they can by reducing staff and making things harder for the employees who are left holding the bag.
When I see a company start to cut costs in this fashion, I take my business elsewhere. I do often go local, but I'm also seeing more and more of my favorite local businesses getting bought out by crappy conglomo chains.
Papa John did nothing wrong as someone whos listened to the entire interview his words were taken out of context, as crazy as he sounded in that interview later he was right the pizza just isn't as good as it use to be.
I work as a driver at a papa johns and I can confirm that we are insanely busy. And yes, the shakAroni is really good lol
Always trust a person that works for the company. That goes along with Joe Biden being a great president.
I also work as a driver for the company.
I get given in between 4 (mid) - 10 hour (open) shifts a day. I would do on average 17 deliveries a day, which isn't that bad tbf. It's rather respectable, and I have noticed some stores picked up in revenue, but others remained on a downhill trend because pizzas are quite expensive around the UK.
I tried the pizzas, and I'd say they're okay. Nothing to shout about. But definitely not worth the large sums.
The salary is alright for me tbf (£9.50/hr + £1.30/delivery + tips) as I'm in Uni.
If you can trust my views, that's lovely. Otherwise, I can understand if you don't.
haha yeah cancellation-addict WOrKEr
At my first apartment back in 2000, one of the people working at the local franchise was named Andy. We dubbed him “Stupid Andy” and would order on speakerphone to share the pain/entertainment with roommates and friends.
After Papa John’s introduced online ordering in 2001 we never talked to “Stupid Andy” again.
I give Stupid Andy a little bit of credit for the early success of online ordering. 😂
Papa Johns has always been my personal favorite pizza chain.
Same here
I experienced Papa John's pizza when I moved to Bowling Green, KY, where Papa John's got their start. Papa John's became my favorite pizza for a decade. It use to be the best but not so much these days. It doesn't have the same quality. These days, Papa John's is mediocre.
Think they're one of the better pizzas that has a crust worth eating next to Domino's.
For the founder, I got what he meant, but unfortunately "cancelation" was becoming too much within those years.
They screwed him royally. PC scumbags who TOTALLY misrepresented what he said.
I remember Papa John's advertising "Better ingredients, better pizza" They bragged about using 100% mozzarella cheese, and they shamed the other pizza chains into switching to 100% mozzarella, but now they say that their cheese is MADE WITH mozzarella cheese. That is not the same as actually using 100% mozzarella cheese. It's just tricky advertising. And their product quality has not been as good as it was when they actually used 100% mozzarella. It's a snow job. The other major chains are doing the same thing. Check their advertising. Often they talk about the importance of quality ingredients, etc., and they talk about the importance of top quality cheese , blah blah blah. It's all just talk. None of them are using 100% mozzarella cheese.
Papa John was not racist for telling players to respect the national Anthem. The corporate world just discriminates against conservative thinkers.
I stopped eating Papa John's in the mid 1990's. Didn't care for the pizza. Plus I hated those peppers in the box. Made the pizza taste like that pepper. If I wanted peppers. I would ask for peppers on my pizza. Garlic sauce. I threw that away.
Just like Papa John's. I don't order from Domino's (when they change their taste back in 2010) or Pizza Hut. To me, the big chains have awful pizza. Rather buy a Godfather's individual size pizza from a gas station before a pizza from the big three.
Papa John's was game changing in the late 90s and early 00s as far as tasty delivery pizza was concerned.. I probably haven't had it in 15 years though..
@@slv72 I like Little Caesars Detroit-style Deep Dish.. they also have great prices compared to all of the other chains..
Personally, as far as these large chains go, I legitimately prefer little Caesars in terms of taste. The fact that they're damn cheap is a plus.
But we also have a lot of great local pizza places around me, and I usually do that unless I'm throwing a party.
Little Caesars are under no delusions, they know what they are and don't try to be anything else.
I use to think papa johns was the best but in the last couple years I've hated how much less quality it is. At this point I don't even think of them when ordering pizza. Marcos pizza is the new papa johns. They should've kept the original owner
Papa Johns doing stuffed crust was a HUGE game changer for me, I know some frozen pizzas also do stuffed crust, but frozen pizzas are just not as good as a fresh pizza from a chain in my opinion. The nearest Pizza Hut or Little Caesar’s is quite a drive from where I live, but there’s a Papa Johns right down the road, so being able to get a fresh stuffed crust pepperoni pizza less than 5 minutes away from the house is awesome. I’ve never had a problem with their quality.
Where does Papa Murphy pizza, Cici pizza, Godfather Pizza. Peter Piper Pizza, Pizza Inn and Cottage Inn rank among Pizza businesses?
Very interesting, my problem with Papa Johns is they don't offer that much in regards to deals or coupons. Dominos is my go to pizza chain place
That would certainly explain why they left NYS.... Cancel culture strikes again, but clearly their product speaks much more than that foll-de-roll...
Seriously. If you're going to "rebrand" to distance yourself from the founder, then you might want to think about removing the founders name from the company all together.
Papa Johns was big in my small town up though sometime in the 00s. It was the go to for all school events. It feels like it shifted to other places towards 2010.
A fun memory I have though is going on a field tried local Papa Johns where we got to make make our own pizzas.
Horrible company, horrible founder (both business wise and on a personal level), horrible owners currently. Treat the staff like complete garbage. And the quality of the pizza today is night and day compared to where it was 20 (and even 10) years ago.
Edit - I worked for them a few times over the past 20+ years. That's why I know they suck. Lol
What I'll say about Papa John's, is that I always thought their pizza tasted of at least a slightly higher quality than Pizza Hut or Dominos, I always saw them as like the Wendy's of those three, where Wendy's is just a little bit better than McDonald's and Burger King in terms of quality, and they got my business more as a result I would say. I think they're genuinely decent pizza, nothing spectacular and I usually go local these days if I ever get pizza, but they're definitely far from the worst I've ever had.
I think they did John dirty, nothing he said was that outrageous to the extent where people should have been boycotting Papa John's, but I feel like there was this media slant that didn't tell the truth about what it was that he was saying, so everyone just assumed he said something derogatory. I think his mistake was even saying that word at all though, so I get it in that sense that he's not supposed to say it, but when you take it into context of the way he said it, he was actually trying to convey how bad that word is.
John was correct about everything he said, that's why the woke press had to crucify him.
but at this point you better support your local brands instead of keeping this disgraceful woke cancelation cycle
We don't have Papa Johns in Australia, But I got to try it recently in the UK, and it's way better than Domino's or Pizza Hut is in Aust!
You have a soothing narrator’s voice.
This channel is a happy place to me….drama free UA-cam content
Is there that much drama yet on UA-cam? I feel like it calmed down quite a bit over the past several years, but I could just not be noticing it.
@@NeutralityTsar some channels yeah. Each channel is a self contained community tho. It's not like Twitter where everyone is always on edge. But some channels thrive on either intercommunity drama or talking about external dramas which in turn causes comment section drama.
Very interesting video; have not had Papa John's in a while, rather go for Domino's or something but might give it a try again. I find it funny that cancel culture is the reason why we don't longer have a public face for the company. I wonder how overall successful or not is linking a company's public image with that of a single person - since if that person loses reputation, so will the company.
I think this is why most companies try to be "PC." It is safer to not offend anyone and instead keep the focus on the product. That way the maximum amount of people can be attracted to the product and keep the money rolling in. As long as the face of the company stays clean, it can be great for advertising. When it fails though, it can fail big. Ask Subway about Jared lol.
whats wrong with cancel culture? youre free to like what you like and hate what you hates?
"cancel culture" lol the guy dug his own grave trying to "cancel" nfl players peacefully and silently protesting
@@maxtastrophe he didnt try to cancel any players, he was stating that the whole situation was bad for his own company.
@@jordanyzapata1878 it's immature to complain so needlessly about something out of one's control. It comes off like whining
I pretty much like all pizza . . . Domino's, Little Ceasars and Pizza Hut are all gr8. Papa John's is the only 🍕 I try to avoid. The sweet sugary sauce renders the 🍕 inedible.
Is it really on the rise? I just had one of their pizzas for lunch and it was ok not great.
Definitely not. They're pizza is worse than pizza hut. Honestly little Caesars has got them beat with quality
I like their Pizzas but I literally just saw my local Papa John's shut down, so I'm starting to think this video is released a little late and the fall is starting up again or just that the store couldn't keep up
You’re buying their pizza and other customers are. They’re never going to have better pizza than local places, but if their sales are up that’s all that matters to them.