Why I Didn't Go To Med School and Became a Nurse Practitioner Instead

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  • Here are the five primary reasons that I changed my mind and decided NOT to go to medical school and go to Nurse Practitioner school instead. Med school is a huge commitment, and one that is a great choice for many, but it is also has immense impacts on your life not only as a med student, but as a resident and future attending as well. After completing requirements for my premed advising I shadowed a medical resident, which lead me to switch my career to nursing, which ultimately lead to my career as a family nurse practitioner. If you are a considering medical school or going the nurse practitioner student route, my hope is this video will give you clarity on your choice
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:38 - Why I quit pre-med
    03:24 - The cost of med school
    10:07 - Residency
    14:21 - Expertise
    16:10 - Schedule
    17:39 - Why I chose NP not MD
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  • @Me-wk9eo
    @Me-wk9eo Рік тому +39

    Nurses and doctors are so abused by both the hospital and patients. Nobody cares. Doctors have the highest suicide rate of almost any profession. They sacrifice their 20s, most of their youth actually, and they go severely into debt, they are sleep deprived, go through really hard courses and training, and at the end of the day are still treated like crap by everyone including their employers. It's definitely not worth it and that's so sad to say. Because a lot of people are attracted to becoming nurses and doctors because they naturally have caring personalities that want to help people and it's so sad that that gets abused and taking advantage of and trampled all over.

  • @loriramirez4860
    @loriramirez4860 Рік тому +33

    Preach girl! I agree with you 100% on so much! I am finishing up my DNP in Nurse Anesthesia and I LOVE the care team model! We are a team and my goal is to be a key team member NOT the team leader. I have been a critical care nurse for 15 years and nursing is hands down the BEST career option for me. I am smart enough to be a physician and I CHOSE to be a nurse, do not get it twisted! Because of this choice I was able to travel to all 7 continents before I was 30, have ZERO student loans (even in anesthesia school), and get pregnant and start a family at a younger age. There are so many benefits to choosing nursing and the risk/benefit analysis all pointed to nursing.

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому +1

      Not for all

    • @ROCAMindset
      @ROCAMindset 4 місяці тому +1

      Good for you on your accomplishments. How do you know you are smart enough to become a physician if you have not gone through the medical program along with everything else that comes with it?

    • @owene.ahearn902
      @owene.ahearn902 3 місяці тому +2

      Problem is (congrats btw that’s awesome!), hierarchies are necessary. At some point, there will be a more knowledgeable person, who makes MOST of the decisions in hard moments. Not all educations are equal, and there will always be someone more educated and trained, whom you will rely upon in difficult moments.

    • @annetteciotti4920
      @annetteciotti4920 8 днів тому

      Sorry, should read "should BE perfect humaniform robots". Thanks.

  • @tinawexler6547
    @tinawexler6547 Рік тому +32

    Ugh it really bugs how little respect and regard we have for each other in healthcare. I’m sorry there are people trying to make you feel like less for choosing your path and trying to help people help themselves.
    I am an MD and can confirm that a lot of medical education is pretty toxic, fosters competitiveness unnecessarily, and causes a lot of trauma. It is an ableist field that favors those with greater privilege. I mostly don’t regret my path but I do see it doing damage, we have a long way to go before we are doing ourselves and our patients Justice. And looking down our noses at other professionals we work with is not cool and it makes me sad. I love and respect the NPs, PAs and nurses I work with.

    • @oo-ru5lt
      @oo-ru5lt Рік тому

      You're not an MD - vapid Valley girl speech is kind of a clue. Prove otherwise.
      "You're the clinical clerk on vascular surgery and hear a systolic murmur and feel an vibration in the carotids of an elderly patient. They want to take out a diseased section of the aorta, requiring a clamp to be placed across the aorta, raising blood pressure upstream very high. You worry this patient has severe AS...
      What is the danger if this patient has AS and has the proposed surgery?"
      I'll wait.

  • @patriciac4562
    @patriciac4562 Рік тому +51

    First off, you shouldn't have to explain yourself to anyone, and I'm sorry the internet trolls were behaving badly towards you! That said, I became a nurse frankly because my marriage was ending and I needed a better income to support myself and my kids. No "Healthcare Hero" here, I just needed to pay the bills. Thankfully I've enjoyed all things medical since I was young, reading my mom's nursing magazines (Nursing '76: Burnout, and starting IVs in the Pediatric Patient Population), and I genuinely enjoy patient care. My niece is a path resident, and while pathology is her thing, she's exhausted working 80 hours/wk and making only $15/hr. It's hard to become a doctor. We each chose our paths and support each other. Thanks for your message and for all you do!

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +15

      I think more of us need to talk about how nursing is a stable job that you can do just for the fact that its a stable job. Right there with you with disliking the healthcare hero thing. Manipulation at its finenest right there. Good luck to your niece!

    • @montanagal6958
      @montanagal6958 Рік тому +2

      agree, we gotta eat

    • @wisdomandlove1661
      @wisdomandlove1661 Місяць тому

      @@NurseLiz you would have been one of the best doctors in this world. Dr. Liz. very good channel

  • @Viennagirl1120
    @Viennagirl1120 Рік тому +50

    I'm a med student. I think you're absolutely right that people need to make the choice that works best for them. I love the investigative side of medicine, and I think I'll probably go IM/crit care. I'm here because I can't imagine doing anything else. I think if I could I probably would, because as a non-traditional student it has been a long road with an incredible amount of stress. I'm glad you found a path that worked best for you, and I'm glad that I am where I am.

    • @grandma460
      @grandma460 Рік тому +2

      Happy for you! And thank you for your service. RN here :)

    • @mariammahmoud5465
      @mariammahmoud5465 Рік тому

      Can you tell me how you get to med school .. so you were a nurse before med or what ??

    • @Viennagirl1120
      @Viennagirl1120 Рік тому +2

      @@mariammahmoud5465 I was not a nurse. I have classmates who were. I got a bachelor's in a non-science field, took my premed courses after graduation and then got a master's in a semi-related but not hard science field.

    • @mariammahmoud5465
      @mariammahmoud5465 Рік тому

      @@Viennagirl1120 Thanks you I gotta yaaa

    • @jenniegauthier4344
      @jenniegauthier4344 Рік тому

      Can you go into residency in the following years if you don't get matched?

  • @AJaySmiles
    @AJaySmiles Рік тому +28

    This was the video I was praying to God for. Thank you so much! I was so conflicted because I fighting between the pristige of being a doctor and neonatal nurse practitioner. This shows that it's not worth the stress of medical especially while having a condition that doesn't really like stress. God Bless Nurse Liz for these videos!

  • @sokenzi
    @sokenzi Рік тому +29

    Honestly this is me! I got an undergrad in bio and fully intended on going to med school but I don’t want to. It’s too long. I wanted to spend time with my daughter. I wanted a life. Med school is like 10 years of nursing school. & the debt! Omg. No no no 😭 Even an internist I shadowed told me to just go be a PA or an NP. I feel you on the lazy part too 😅 also yes adhd is real lol and I just can’t.

  • @sandylewis8897
    @sandylewis8897 Рік тому +25

    I totally agree with you. The $$ and time commitment for medical school is not worth it, especially if you plan on taking time off to raise your kids or work part-time.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +8

      For sure. Definitely could be very worth it if you want your life to be your work, but if you dont it can be too much

    • @veiled_sakura
      @veiled_sakura Рік тому +2

      100% agreed. When you're already married and possibly with kids, and established in a home and location you're attached to and don't want to move or be separated from your spouse and family, it becomes an incredibly impractical if not impossible idea. This is the ultimate reason I ruled out both becoming a doctor or a PA, because of the high likelihood of needing to move. That was a deal breaker for us, so I went for nursing instead with no regrets at all. I might even possibly take the APRN pathway in the future after I've been practicing as a nurse for long enough.

    • @Abmarp
      @Abmarp Рік тому

      That part

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому

      RN, NP, PA, and MD are not all the same..

  • @LT-vs2mc
    @LT-vs2mc Рік тому +6

    Love this video. Great content. I am entering the final semester in my NP program so obviously already decided on which path to take, but you really captured some of my feelings and concerns regarding this path, and it just makes me feel more confident in this decision. That's important because lately I feel like I have been second guessing everything! Thanks.

  • @keisha2778
    @keisha2778 Рік тому +21

    OMGoodness!! Thank you for clarifying this. I’m a senior in my nurse practitioner program and deeply considered Med school but I don’t think that route was for me either. I lovvvvvve your rant at the end I totally agree with you the EVIL ADMINS AND INSURANCE COMPANIES are the true enemies lol one love

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 Рік тому

      The nurse’s unions are every bit as evil.

  • @melanierose9015
    @melanierose9015 Рік тому +8

    Heading back to NP school after 15 years of being of being an RN. I don't regret any life choice. I always wanted to be a psych NP but never felt ready until now. I want to be a psych NP to do med management and therapy

  • @marianag8043
    @marianag8043 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Love how you state your arguments

  • @DiamondMichelle_
    @DiamondMichelle_ Рік тому

    You have so much personality. I absolutely love it! Secondly, you are a lifesaver. I seriously can’t even begin to tell you. Thank you 🙏🏽

  • @meluvfriends
    @meluvfriends Рік тому +26

    This was a great video Liz, but did anyone else find it quiet? Im not sure if it was just on my end but I had it turned all the way up :)

    • @sigmadeltagamma
      @sigmadeltagamma Рік тому +4

      It was definitely a bit quiet volume wise.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +4

      Just listened back and you are totally right, the volume is quieter than normal. Thanks for the heads up! I dont think I can fix it on this one, but in future ones i'll definitely check that first. Thanks !

    • @dejahunt7328
      @dejahunt7328 Рік тому +1

      The volume is good for me. 👍🏾

  • @UlianaBoldyreva
    @UlianaBoldyreva Рік тому +5

    First of all, LOVE the new content and set up of the channel! Love watching you and your personality and I personally find the new content a lot more engaging and relevant for my life and career planning haha but 2) The editing and concept in this video is amazing! Like whatt

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      Thank you!! It was fun to make :)

  • @spiritmediumclaytonsilva649
    @spiritmediumclaytonsilva649 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Thanks Liz!

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      Thank YOU for watching Clayton!

  • @meganhanifin1708
    @meganhanifin1708 Рік тому +16

    This video could not have come at a more perfect time. I am a nurse and I know I want to be a provider one day but was between med school or NP school. Np school it is for me! Thank you Liz, love your videos☺️

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +3

      Glad it could help!! Good luck with everything!

  • @gingerandspice1209
    @gingerandspice1209 Рік тому +5

    People keep forgetting that nurses and Doctors are 2 separate career paths, they are not extentions of one another. They work close together but they are completely different. Some people want to become Drs and some want to becomes nurses. Thats that.

  • @irissanchez2316
    @irissanchez2316 Рік тому

    Thank you I feel like this was the video I needed to see in order to decide to go to nursing school.

  • @LemansSunset350
    @LemansSunset350 Рік тому +1

    You found your niche in the direction of your UA-cam channel. Keep up the good work! 👏

  • @ishmaelsaldana836
    @ishmaelsaldana836 4 місяці тому

    The whole video was perfect. Also, love billing department Liz lol

  • @sabrinaetienne8424
    @sabrinaetienne8424 2 місяці тому

    Love everything you said and I totally agree.

  • @wisdomandlove1661
    @wisdomandlove1661 Місяць тому +1

    you would have been one of the best doctors in this world. Dr. Liz. very good channel

  • @TheCodeda
    @TheCodeda Рік тому +2

    Haven’t been here in a bit. LOVE your glasses!

  • @sharonpovroznik9600
    @sharonpovroznik9600 Рік тому

    Enjoyed this video so much, recently retired RN of 40 years.

  • @plutobaby9996
    @plutobaby9996 Рік тому

    Love your vids Nurse liz❤️

  • @matthewstillion3734
    @matthewstillion3734 Рік тому +5

    19th century providers MD, 20th century providers MD,DO. 21rst century providers NP,DO,MD,PA,PharmD. People need medical help. The population is growing and nurses have treated disease for a very very long time. Ego is the enemy of great healthcare!

    • @ZedRN
      @ZedRN 6 місяців тому +1

      Best answer, period!

  • @MNP208
    @MNP208 Рік тому +16

    My daughter was accepted into a biological sciences program after high school. At the last minute, she switched into the school of biomedical engineering. Best decision EVER! After graduation she got a great job (after 4 years of school) and it's actually fun!!! If she tires of her job, she could get into business, purchasing, project management, etc. Oh yeah... her company paid for her master's degree.

  • @traceycedoit8042
    @traceycedoit8042 Рік тому +14

    I'm in RN school , hoping I pass before I even think about np school, my desired specialty is neurosurgical nurse practioner! I just passed the first semester, praying to the most high I get through the second semester
    But I absolutely agree that MD school is alot of money & a big commitment, I too have ADHD & I'm scared it will interfere in regular nursing school, I will never take that big of a risk. LMAO

    • @annfuller9044
      @annfuller9044 Рік тому +5

      Please consider a few years in practice. You will feel so much more prepared to practice as an NP when you have practice foundation. Best wishes. Remember self-care and boundaries.

    • @adetolaosoba5922
      @adetolaosoba5922 6 місяців тому

      You've got this!!

  • @lesmisperson
    @lesmisperson Рік тому +2

    Video is great but thought I'd clarify that residents typically defer their loans and don't begin paying them off until after residency.

  • @maquijaam5083
    @maquijaam5083 8 місяців тому

    I'm loving your channel! I'm changing my career from lab to nursing and I have been contemplating to become nurse practictioner too! And I feel being a doctor is not worth it, financially get in so much debt and no social life. Just because a doctor is a doctor, doesn't mean they are really enjoying life with the money they make.

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому

      Where are all the docs. Intelligence is silent😅

  • @damaiablue6483
    @damaiablue6483 6 місяців тому

    I seen in a previous video that you attained an ABSN! Can you make a video on how you find schools and bridge programs for NP?

  • @anastaciamenemenils8508
    @anastaciamenemenils8508 Рік тому +8

    I’ve been seeing a lot of NP hate (as per usual haha) and it makes me annoyed & frustrated & I appreciate videos like yours.

    • @anastaciamenemenils8508
      @anastaciamenemenils8508 Рік тому +5

      NPs have a more limited scope than physicians but can do a fine job diagnosing & treating within their scope, and identifying and passing on cases outside of their scope. Just like MD/DOs should pass on cases outside of their scope of practice.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +1

      exactly!

  • @adegbolaoluwawamiri3027
    @adegbolaoluwawamiri3027 Місяць тому

    This is an extremely detailed video

  • @kimberlydavis8613
    @kimberlydavis8613 Рік тому +7

    Liz, I freakin love you and I can't believe the audacity of people who don't know you, trying to tell you why you made the decisions you did🤣I love the positivity here!

  • @TheDSquad
    @TheDSquad Рік тому

    lecturio was a life saver in NP school and thank you for the affiliate link because that discount is amazing.

  • @montanagal6958
    @montanagal6958 Рік тому +3

    I love your videos!!! Agree, I love being a nurse. Too bad our system has become so dysfunctional I am applying to non nursing jobs and planning on leaving.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +2

      You gotta do what's best for you, and you certainly aren't alone in that decision. The system is not working.

    • @montanagal6958
      @montanagal6958 Рік тому +2

      @@NurseLiz I didn't leave. It's hard to find good health insurance with decent pay. I did find a job teaching classes at the hospital, so trying to make the most and bring something positive to the community. Thank you for your videos!!!

  • @tulesg2008
    @tulesg2008 Рік тому +3

    Your reasons are very valid. No one should state not even as an opinion the life path we as a person should choose... PLEASE! now saying this, I also want to say that a lot of undergrad doctors go to Mexico, to Guadalajara to be specific, ( well the ones who speak Spanish) Sorry. They get their doctorate degree there (cheap. AND SOME universities are FREE (UNAM) then come back here and pass all the boards they need. Is a short cut but has again HAS WORK for many physicians! I know personally a few!

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +2

      There are definitely people who go the international med school route! Can be a problem when it comes to residency if they don't get a spot, but its definitely an option! Thanks for bringing it up !

    • @tulesg2008
      @tulesg2008 Рік тому

      @@NurseLiz Love your content btw!! Thank you!.

  • @emfritz82
    @emfritz82 Рік тому +5

    Loved this video! And billing Liz was adorable. Bring her back! I love Lecturio to help me study for nursing school.
    You summed up my feelings about becoming a physician perfectly. Well done video.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +2

      THank you!! Billing liz will for sure be back haha.

    • @veiled_sakura
      @veiled_sakura Рік тому

      Billing Liz is wholesome gold 💓✨️

  • @lupediaz4747
    @lupediaz4747 Рік тому +1

    Truth truth truth!! THANK you!! For saying something I feel like I scream from the top of my lungs…. And get told I am naive and ignorant. I would have loved to become a physician but, in my opinion, for a career that focuses on learning the human body and caring for those that are unable to and need us, this is a torturous, unnecessarily cruel path. No thank you. I will focus on my mental health.

  • @davidxavi1848
    @davidxavi1848 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, all your reasons for becoming an NP instead of MD are about you: "part time, not being bound to overwhelming debt... wanted to be home and not working 80+ hour weeks... I could change my mind, I could work 1-2 days per week." As a patient, this video scares me from trusting an NP's knowledge.

  • @veiled_sakura
    @veiled_sakura Рік тому +2

    Love this new entry! 💓 Also how much you wanna bet that most of those hate comments against NPs are the narcissist gunner premeds that have low self esteem and probably won't get into med school anyway

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +4

      or people who went to med school and are now in debt up to their eyeballs and realizing that our healthcare system is a bit of a mess and they want out but are trapped. haha. Clearly I have feelings

    • @veiled_sakura
      @veiled_sakura Рік тому +2

      @@NurseLiz Sadly true for many, but it's never an excuse to treat one's fellow team like garbage. Just as you said, if anything we should all be uniting rn. When I'm a nurse in 2 years, I refuse to be caught dead treating anyone working with me, regardless of their position or my mood, like trash. It all starts with us. 🤝💓

  • @danawood606
    @danawood606 Рік тому

    Nurse Liz, just watching a few of your videos and learned you are in Michigan. I am from a Michigan, but currently a nursing student in Orlando with long-term hopes of ending up in Michigan. Wondering where you are and if you can comment on the nursing work environment up there….?

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      totally depends on the hospital system! There are some unionized hospitals and those are MUCH better to work at. I would stay away from a lot of the private ones, those can be a bit of a hot mess. I'd avoid detroit. I worked with alot of nurses that came from detroit hospitals and they left because the ratios were awful. But overall from what i've heard, anything will be an improvement from florida!

  • @unik4161
    @unik4161 Рік тому +8

    First of all, billing Liz is a natural star… l absolutely loved you presentation.
    God bless all the medical doctors 🙏🏻, we need them.
    In regards of all the pros and cons of choosing a physician career, it seems to be accurate.
    My daughter was in pre med school getting ready to apply to Medical school.
    Then, after digging into what was like to take this journey, she found out exactly the same reasons you described.
    After a careful analysis, she chose to be a clinical pharmacist. Short after she got married, and her profession allows her to enjoy time with her husband, son, family, friends, and also to practice martial artes, which she loves. She is very happy with her choice as she lives a well balanced life.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      I'm so glad she found a route that works better for her!!

  • @itzelr3514
    @itzelr3514 Рік тому

    Lol I love how you opened the video with the lazy comment lol you are funny! Good video :)

  • @bridgetleonard6702
    @bridgetleonard6702 Місяць тому

    My mom was a nurse too and she always complained about work so I never considered anything in medical field until I just decided that maybe I want to use my MSW to be a medical social worker.

  • @dallaschrystian8651
    @dallaschrystian8651 Рік тому

    This was an excellent and very objectively put video.

  • @hildawilson5135
    @hildawilson5135 Рік тому

    Preach bravo!

  • @carolapostolos8929
    @carolapostolos8929 Рік тому

    Great explanation Liz but you don't owe anyone an explan

  • @GrayWithMe
    @GrayWithMe Рік тому +10

    My problem with nurse practitioners is that many are not intellectually curious and weren’t even cut out to be RN’s but paid for an online degree mill to get a graduate degree. I have horror stories of NP’s that make really dumb statements and medical decisions. There are dump people in every profession but they aren’t putting people’s lives on the line.

    • @carlhouck4387
      @carlhouck4387 Рік тому +10

      I am with you on the degree mill front, but man oh man, what a terrible, TERRIBLE take. Have you met every single nurse practitioner within the United States and or beyond? For you to call out NPs for making "dumb statements and "medical decisions" is quite ironic as it seems that you are the one who is making quite a 'dumb' assumption. There are also many doctors who have made decisions that have destroyed patient's lives as well.
      And how do you define one's intellectual curiosity? Again, are you a researcher of some sort who has visited dozens upon dozens of medical institutions and interacted with NPS/PAs across various disciplines? Terrible, misguided take.

    • @lotusgrl444
      @lotusgrl444 Рік тому +4

      MY PROBLEM...is being forced to see an NP rather than a Dr...
      If someone wants to become an NP, then its their personal decision..but as a patient, I shouldnt be given only the option of seeing an NP!
      This happened to me at my kid's pediatrician appt which turned out is an NP and at an urgent care clinic..

    • @luizacarelli2616
      @luizacarelli2616 11 місяців тому +1

      Not THAR you're forced, it's more because you can't afford to see an MD.MDs are stepping out of clinic to leadership positions. To coordinate care.

  • @delano7564
    @delano7564 Рік тому +7

    I don’t like how I’d be “committed” to a specific specialty. Big big factor for me.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +1

      Totally feel you there!

  • @cwmoore7000
    @cwmoore7000 Рік тому +2

    Great discussion and explanation (what is wrong with people?)

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      More than we have time to discuss here i'm afraid hahaha.

  • @Colt-ii4qn
    @Colt-ii4qn Рік тому +8

    Anybody that puts down an N.P. Is totally ignoring what they have to go through. Not everyone WANTS to be a doctor. Many reasons including debt.
    Nurses have much respect from me , stay strong ✊

  • @jeanbastien9424
    @jeanbastien9424 6 місяців тому

    Worked with a pediatrician that LOVED her job. She worked 12 hours a week, either 5 or 6 days a week. I’m still considering medical school, but I don’t think many people that begin medical school know what the day to day of being a doctor is like.

  • @mindakahn9964
    @mindakahn9964 Рік тому

    Heaven help all of us. I was open minded, I saw the nurse practitioner, 4 months post surgery. She was a female chauvinist. And she completely Foxed up my recovery.

  • @annfuller9044
    @annfuller9044 Рік тому +3

    I enjoyed hearing your reasoning for making your career decision. You seem to have a realistic and balanced view. I don't hear a pretentious attitude in your videos. I do have a concern about nurses' lacking an understanding of the difference between medicine and nursing. It is bad enough that medicine doesn't know the difference between the two professions but when nurses don't know it undermines the nursing profession. Who is left to support professional nursing if nurses don't know who they are? The two professions have two separate covenants of practice.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +5

      There is definitely more and more overlap between the two and I think both need to really re-evaluate how they define themselves honestly. Medicine is becoming more and more holistic in many places and nursing is incredibly medicalized. but the curriculum and "theory" behind them are not keeping up with the times. making it super confusing not only for the people working in the professions but for patients as well

  • @jamesconley5255
    @jamesconley5255 Рік тому +2

    What NP school did you go to? I'm having a hard time finding a brick and mortar MSN program.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +2

      I went to Michigan State.

  • @marianking3773
    @marianking3773 Рік тому

    I sometimes wonder if I would have enjoyed becoming a Physical Therapist if I had been more aware of the field when I was in high school. There is a great degree of more independent practice in a more defined knowledge area. I have done a lot of med surge, rehab and then agency nursing as well as high quad homecare, especially when I was an LPN supporting husband in grad school and preparing to return to school for my RN.
    But the math in Kinesiology may have been too much for me.I had friends in a program in college.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      Math. The true universal enemy... except I guess for a true unicorn humans who enjoy it

    • @Olof96M
      @Olof96M Рік тому +1

      Only issue with physical therapy is the debt to income ratio. At least six figures of student loan debt to make 60-70k a year starting out and the ceiling is pretty low.

  • @CrackyCartoons
    @CrackyCartoons 7 днів тому

    The cost isn't a big deal if you go to a medical school cost, and repay.. you can pay it off in 3 years

  • @baylarubin8754
    @baylarubin8754 Рік тому

    Can you pay for only the courses in lecturio that you need? I’m in a specialty area so I only need a subset

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      At this point you can't which is a bummer, but it is something that I've been nagging them to start offering

  • @relaxationsoundsambience2724
    @relaxationsoundsambience2724 Рік тому +1

    The nurse Practitioner (NP) program was created in this nation in 1965 due to increased demand for healthcare among underserved populations. So whoever is ranting about NPs needs to get a grip. Glad you made the best choice for you. Made mine, an NP currently employed at one of the virtual urgent cares - the best choice I ever made, thanks to telemedicine. I was talking about Evusheld, a preexposure prophylaxis for Covid and one of my MD anesthetist friends asked what that was, yup! No one regardless of specialty is going to know everything. Did going to med school cross my mind? Yup! A zillion times but I was way older and had been an RN for 20 years. I could pretty much manage an entire hospital by then, ha! ha! Don't get me wrong, the CEO of our health system is a Ph.D., RN, the best in the nation. So, "you do you" as they say. There are medical school programs that do not require tuition for the research geeks out there...and it's called MD-PhD. Many of these programs are free!! Additionally, the students receive a stipend of >30K a year. So anyone thinking of going to med school and loves research, there you go - debt free.

  • @Jaycar1997
    @Jaycar1997 7 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate your acknowledgement of Physician expertise and training. But let me lay some facts here. MDs are literally smarter, the objective data shows that MD avg IQ is 130. While avg nurse IQ ranges between 100-110. Did you take the MCAT? What makes you think you could even get into medical school. MD school acceptance rates range from 0.01-5% while acceptance rates for NP schools range between 30-100%.
    You can’t just say “this is why I didn’t do medical school”. Most students who want to become doctors never even make it to the application process because it is such a rigorous path. The MCAT weeds out a lot of people not to mention the difficult undergraduate degrees that are very science heavy. Very few people can honestly say that they “chose” not to go to MD school. Very few people have the capability to actually pursue medical school.
    To get into MD school you have to be the top of the top not to mention to get into the specialty you want you have to compete with all of those students. You literally have to be top of the top of the top to get into the competitive specialties like surgery.
    The medical education NPs get is approximately tantamount to 1/2 a semester of MD school, maybe

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому +1

      100%, we need more Doc in the future. It's hard to get into it..

    • @Jaycar1997
      @Jaycar1997 6 місяців тому

      @@emuye-shinbira8268 exactly. Doctors are irreplaceable. Unfortunately a large proportion of funding is going to educating NPs instead of expanding medical schools and residency programs.

  • @kennypascoe4752
    @kennypascoe4752 Місяць тому

    In my experience the NP’s have FAR BETTER bedside manner than a doctor who is only in the room for all of 2 seconds!

  • @adriennemullen3007
    @adriennemullen3007 Рік тому +2

    You are definitely not lazy. Nurses are the definition of not lazy.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      lol thanks! Perhaps not in work life, but time off is another story for me😅

    • @adriennemullen3007
      @adriennemullen3007 Рік тому +1

      @@NurseLiz Time off is called recharging time so you can avoid nurturing burnout.

  • @shaunanigans3364
    @shaunanigans3364 Рік тому +1

    Everybody not built for medical school or to be a physician, and that’s okay.

  • @MissValdostaFeedAndGrain
    @MissValdostaFeedAndGrain Рік тому

    Because there were no diners where you lived?

  • @PrismaticBeauty
    @PrismaticBeauty Рік тому

    This sounds a lot like the LPN-RN debate!
    People need to understand there are different levels of care in medicine and they all have an important role in the medical field.

    • @carlhouck4387
      @carlhouck4387 Рік тому

      That debate will soon be put to rest as most hospitals (especially magnet certified institutions) are no longer hiring LPNS.

  • @anthonysmith6355
    @anthonysmith6355 Рік тому +3

    I should be getting my acceptance letter any day

  • @ayanna8245
    @ayanna8245 Місяць тому

    Why do doctors need residency and not NPs?

  • @chichidaniels2677
    @chichidaniels2677 Рік тому +1

    Especially in Africa,a doctor can even say nurses are dull... imagine...
    Wat I have discovered about medicine is that most of the work is about "Memorizing" stuff,they have to memorise every muscle in the body and all that.and wats so special about that? Who can't do that?....who wants to spend seven years on one thing???

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому

      Not you. But a lot of people are trying to get in in to it with a higher end competition..

  • @Natalie.D
    @Natalie.D Рік тому

    Net 1400/m left for rent/food/insurance/bills. And you are working 80hrs/week. If you are a parent, forget about child care unless you have the luxury of a family member to watch them and basically raise them.

  • @MzNeka26
    @MzNeka26 Рік тому +1

    I'm currently in an MSN-FNP student. I have wanted to be a NP and open my own clinic since I was little. I didn't want to be a doctor, not bc I can't do it. I just don't want to 😂

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      exactly!

    • @MzNeka26
      @MzNeka26 Рік тому

      @@NurseLiz then all the debt, the years of schooling, the liability/responsibility, then little to no flexibility to change job specialties... I feel like I'd have basically no life. I applaud and appreciate the ones that have done it, but it's not for me.

    • @emuye-shinbira8268
      @emuye-shinbira8268 6 місяців тому

      It's a personal choice and ability.

  • @eduardomlofstedtjr
    @eduardomlofstedtjr 10 місяців тому

    Nurse Practioners do have a great relief and help with physician shortages

  • @rs3007
    @rs3007 Рік тому

    It's the glass half full... Most ppl don't even have a glass. Jealous

  • @iamjaneica
    @iamjaneica Рік тому +1

    People are unbelievable getting free content and still have the audacity to judge you for your life decisions, smh

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому

      people are remarkably impressive with their audacity haha

  • @user-nb5jd4rm5z
    @user-nb5jd4rm5z 8 місяців тому

    The only thing I want to correct is when you were talking about resident salary and income. Yes the average income is around 58,000, but our loan payback is adjusted based on income i.e "income based repayment". So while you are a resident making 58,000 you will not be paying the 2,300 a month you mentioned. It will likely be a few hundred a month.

  • @joanleon8704
    @joanleon8704 Рік тому

    Great and timely vid. Forwarding to my grandson that is on the fence about med school, and no way could he afford this or spend so much time and life in this, especially when we see what evil things healthcare has done having to do with C-19. Also I summarized Affordable Care Act, which is horrific and eventually single payer socialized system that WHO is taking over on a global level. Thank you!

  • @elainegoad9777
    @elainegoad9777 8 місяців тому

    Volume so low can't watch

  • @justinx8935
    @justinx8935 Рік тому +1

    you can put the loans off during residency, and then when you're making money as an attending can pay it back lmao.

  • @divadory1110
    @divadory1110 Рік тому

    I thought you got a degree in something other than nursing and then went back to an accelerated nursing program?

  • @communitysolutionspro1520
    @communitysolutionspro1520 Рік тому +3

    I actually prefer nurse practitioner for my primary care providers. I don’t know why people are giving you a hard time.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +4

      because internet 😂 people have very strong opinions when they can hide behind computer monitors

  • @dip1327
    @dip1327 7 місяців тому

    obviously cause you didnt get in....

  • @edhcb9359
    @edhcb9359 Рік тому +1

    Find someone who is not succeeding at their job, shadow them, and then base your life choices on them? 🙄

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +8

      Watch 5 minutes of a video and decide if it has any value based just on that 🙄

    • @zol2415
      @zol2415 Рік тому +4

      @@NurseLiz that's exactly what this person did. She clearly mentions in the video that she received a more balanced perspective from other doctors later in her college career.

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 Рік тому

      @@NurseLiz If it had been a story about overcoming that initial experience and finding a path to becoming a physician I would have listened past the first five minutes.

    • @ZedRN
      @ZedRN 6 місяців тому

      Can't watch past 5 mins, pass, don't comment, cuz you have no basis🤣

    • @BunnyTree
      @BunnyTree 2 місяці тому

      I prefer NPs or PAs. They have way better listening skills and are more willing usually to listen to my own research. Ive solved many of my own health issues by telling medical staff what labs or duplex u/s needed to be done. I spend all my free time studying my own health and my loved ones.

  • @MrPipin22
    @MrPipin22 Рік тому +3

    I would buy all of this "why I didn't go to med school" if you had actually been accepted then turned down your acceptance. You can't really say 'what if' when you never came close to actually doing it.

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +2

      But why would I bother paying to apply when I knew it wasn't what I wanted? I assume that you've applied and been accepted to every single job you've ever thought of and turned them down when you knew what you wanted to do.

    • @MrPipin22
      @MrPipin22 Рік тому +3

      @@NurseLiz I think we are stuck on semantics, at the end of the day, you can't say you chose not to go to med school, that implies that if you had tried you would have been accepted or graduated med school; unfortunately, that's not the case for the majority of people. It would be more believable that you went to another career outside of healthcare or had been accepted and turned it down. People love to say that they "did not choose medical school" but that's like a triple-A or Sunday league baseball player saying that he did not choose to go the MLB, at least that's how I see it. It is hard to come to terms with the fact that you took an easier path to do a half-ass job, no shame in that, the problem is that NP and PA try to say their knowledge and expertise rivals that of a physician when especially for NP that could not be further from the truth.

    • @sashal1395
      @sashal1395 Рік тому

      @@MrPipin22 what do you mean "believable"? She is telling you why she made a decision about taking a path in her life. What is there not to believe? I guess you're implying that the true reason she didn't go to med school is because she couldn't handle it, as if that's the only plausible reason that not everyone in the world is a doctor. You sound like those basic ass people who only value money and prestige for its own sake. NPs and PAs have important roles in a fucked up healthcare system, and I would argue are fundamentally different jobs than being a doc. No one says anything about their knowledge being comparable. There's no need to put other people down because you have some inferiority complex that you can't seem to shake no matter how hard you try to be an alpha bro

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +3

      @@MrPipin22 Did you listen to the video? I never claimed to have the same expertise as a physician. That's what I love about being an NP! Our scopes of practice are very different. And I think your knowledge of semantics is limited. Let's look at an example: I'm considering my options for a vacation: Florida or a week at the shore. I look into all the financial information, activities, what have you and choose to go to the shore. By default, I also CHOSE not to go to Florida. Your argument only works if I never even considered med school in the first place, but I did consider it, for a long time actually.
      In no way is any healthcare job "half-assed", as you say. We deal with people's LIVES and we all have different expertise. A radiologist has different expertise from a surgeon, but both are necessary to provide care. A nurse/NP has different expertise and scope of practice than a physician, but all have their role to play and place in providing care.

    • @MrPipin22
      @MrPipin22 Рік тому +2

      @@NurseLiz We will never agree because the reality is that NPs are not well-equipped to practice medicine. I watch your content, you always talk about how you went for the "easy" option to become an NP, patient's do not deserve a "provider" that went for the easy route, like you said these are people's lives. I am a nurse, our education is very deficient, no amount of bedside experience or years in NP school can replace the knowledge that comes from med school and residency. That's without even mentioning pre-med which is probably 35-40x harder than any nursing graduate program.

  • @HealthbyJames
    @HealthbyJames Рік тому

    Liz, in this video you keep saying that you are not a physician. However, nurse practitioners are physicians. Nonetheless, excellent video you rock 😘

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  Рік тому +6

      Thanks for the encouragement! But just as clarification, nurse practitioners are advanced practice providers, and definitely not physicians! an important distinction to make I think

    • @annebebee6764
      @annebebee6764 Рік тому +3

      No they are not physicians. Where did you get that idea?

  • @carolapostolos8929
    @carolapostolos8929 Рік тому

    Great explanation Liz but you don't owe anyone an explan

  • @carolapostolos8929
    @carolapostolos8929 Рік тому

    Great explanation Liz but you don't owe anyone an explan