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Still The Best Steel Ship In 2023 - One Take: Bourgogne

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2023
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  • @TheDoctor_Lang
    @TheDoctor_Lang Рік тому +13

    As a suggestion, do a one take of the Shikishima, I'm not sure if I'll take the Bourgogne or the Shiki. It would be my first steel ship.
    I really like playing with Yamato and I like playing with Jean Bart even more.
    Congratulations on the work you do.

    • @ryanbrochu3336
      @ryanbrochu3336 Рік тому +4

      Go Bourg first, Shiki is just really a side-grade Yammy. Not to mention the fact that Shiki has 6 guns to Yammy's 9.

    • @mmogeek1
      @mmogeek1 Рік тому +2

      Definitely recommend the Bourgogne first. You can get similar gameplay to the Shiki by just grabbing the Satsuma, steel is so long to get I personally spend it on ships with very unique gameplay.

    • @armanhadi777
      @armanhadi777 Рік тому +1

      Get the Satsuma instead, if credits allow for it

    • @jasondaniels1630
      @jasondaniels1630 7 місяців тому

      im in same predicament, i dont want to work the bs jap lines when all i want is the yammy.

  • @Daybreak1492
    @Daybreak1492 Рік тому +1

    This whole game I was telling myself "don't let the Benham kill PQ, don't let the Benham kill PQ" haha. Really cool to hear commentary and your thought process on a flank I was playing on too. Always look forward to your content and thanks for making me a better player. GG

  • @CoyotesCraft
    @CoyotesCraft Рік тому +8

    Was my first steel ship. I completely agree that its the best steel ship

  • @ryanbrochu3336
    @ryanbrochu3336 Рік тому +4

    Honestly, I think using one of the Honroe Captains is better for Bourg than Auboyneau. Yes Auboyneau's talent perks make Bourg a even bigger threat, but getting them to proc is a real challenge most games while the Honroe's improved AR and GtG are there 24/7.

  • @EqualizerLNF
    @EqualizerLNF Рік тому +6

    I also love the bourgogne, by far my best average damage ship with around 165k per game. Nowhere near that with my other T10s.

    • @richardzhang2773
      @richardzhang2773 Рік тому

      Damn nice, I average approximately 147k with more than 120 games in it, winrate is at about 68%. I never had so much success with any other ships.

  • @zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397

    So excited for June - Buying this ship immediately once the coupon is up.

  • @Just_som_Ottur
    @Just_som_Ottur Рік тому +36

    I don’t know, but for some reason playing _against_ this ship, I have never seen it to be anything special… Ohio’s are still terrifying though, even in this long range meta

    • @mazgazine1
      @mazgazine1 Рік тому +6

      oh I totally get it, but PLAYING it is such a different ship.. 380's whoopie, 12 of them? yeah thats good, decent accuracy and pen? so whats special? oh it goes 40kts.. and has a reload booster. and yet it is the BEST ship for no other reason..

    • @EqualizerLNF
      @EqualizerLNF Рік тому +13

      Battleships without overmatch AP potato aid require high skill to play effectively since you need to find those broadsides with good positioning.
      The thing is people dont understand what a crazy firestarter this thing is so even a potato could do a lot of damage just by starting a lot of fires... If you DO play bourgogne well, she will outperform most of your other T10 BBs easily in raw damage output though.

    • @TravelHub-q1b
      @TravelHub-q1b Рік тому +2

      Agree, and i prefer Republique any day with its fast reload and bigger guns

    • @forge16hanadamaintenancedr43
      @forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Рік тому +1

      Bourgogne is one of those ships that potatoes buy because people say it's good. in practice 2 out of 5 bourgogne have stats in the deep red and only spams HE, in which case it isn't much better than a conqueror. You need to find opportunities to make use of that European 380 AP with great ballistics and pen, which is the most important fun factor in these french battleships imo. Take that away it's really less special than a conqueror, i.e. you only worry about its fires.

    • @xxxthwagdrakexxx4672
      @xxxthwagdrakexxx4672 Рік тому

      It's an instant flamethrower as soon as you hit the mbr consumable button, it's ap is somewhat accurate but definitely one of the higher end dpm values in the game. It's super speedy and maneuverable. On top of that it's turtleback can work somewhat and it's got a good secondary suite to boot. Almost everything about this ship screams fun

  • @jedpratte
    @jedpratte Рік тому +6

    Fantastic ship. Still a go to favorite .

  • @gregorychoubana6755
    @gregorychoubana6755 Рік тому +1

    I’ll be able to get my 2nd steel ship in a few weeks and I’m hesitating, Bourgogne or Stalingrad…

  • @sargisshirinyan207
    @sargisshirinyan207 Рік тому +2

    Good timing on this video as I'm waiting for the June coupon to drop so I can pick the Bourgogne up finally (after having Plymouth, Stalin, Shiki and Meck)

  • @goheboge09studio69
    @goheboge09studio69 Рік тому +2

    The French BB dispersion is just so weird sometimes. Oftentimes you shoot and see shells just burst towards random directions like a shotgun but most of them end up connecting.

    • @RasmusDyhrFrederiksen
      @RasmusDyhrFrederiksen Рік тому

      The horizontal dispersion is quitebad - but the vertical dispersion is really good. So they love broadsides ;-)

  • @hmmjedi
    @hmmjedi Рік тому

    As a DD player this is one of the few BB's I am happy to take out as it can dance very well...

  • @javddd7057
    @javddd7057 Рік тому +3

    Ahhh Bourgogne.... I love this ship, but my win rate on this ship is disappointing.I always end up lose the game most of times when I play this ship. Not sure if I stuck into a weird MM mechanism.. I think I am reasonably decent player and I am confident to say when I lose the game, I will be at least top three on the end game screen with over 1k xp on this ship. It is just frustrating when you keep losing the game when you play your favourite ship

    • @NoName-wi8xz
      @NoName-wi8xz Рік тому +1

      I have it quite similar. Sometimes i get really bad mm run and i just end up loosing 10 games in a row in 1 ship, even if im doing well

    • @armanhadi777
      @armanhadi777 Рік тому +2

      The teams in this game can troll quite a bit.

  • @misteebond
    @misteebond Рік тому +1

    Pretty sure WG has gradually increased bb over pens. Seems only perfectly central hits do damage

  • @silverheartgaming
    @silverheartgaming Рік тому +2

    Please do Shikishima next?

  • @deavle3
    @deavle3 Рік тому +1

    Was going to get Bourgogne next this video talked me out of it. Going for Stalingrad instead.

    • @glenwagner4013
      @glenwagner4013 Рік тому

      Really wanted Stalingrad first and really still want her but I do love battleships more. Got Incomparable first (don't regret) and this time will more than likely get Borgourne but Stalingrad will be ahead of Mecklenberg even though I love German BBs as I'm thinking Brandenburg is a better tier 8 than Mecklenburg is a tier 10

  • @fine_artist123
    @fine_artist123 2 місяці тому

    Bourgogne is the best steel ship by far. Would definitely recommend it

  • @grimmhammertv3365
    @grimmhammertv3365 Рік тому

    "wheres our dispersion!...*3 cits* wait thats fine" 🤣

  • @thatinternetguyj5222
    @thatinternetguyj5222 Рік тому +1

    This is great... (POINTS AT BORGOUNE)
    But I like this (POINTS AT INCOMPARABLE)

  • @roadrunner2135
    @roadrunner2135 Рік тому +3

    Siegfried next please

  • @superchickenlips1
    @superchickenlips1 Рік тому +1

    Doesn't the turbo only affect your top speed, not how fast it takes you to get there?

    • @davidtavani8817
      @davidtavani8817 Рік тому +1

      It gives you also more engine power for acceleration, test it on DD's :)

  • @roythedon4413
    @roythedon4413 Рік тому

    i play this ship in the console version and it becomes my favorite legendary or i should say tier 10(pc) ship, the guns is 380mm but i think it has more penetration than the other 380mm, for HE wise boi it really slaps hard and i think in my experience the HE dispersion is better than the AP dispersion(like i said in my experience).

  • @noteboopad93
    @noteboopad93 Рік тому

    The Bourgogne: The ship that I should absolutely wreck with, but always end up getting destroyed in.

  • @aris_han
    @aris_han Рік тому +1

    Sees atrocious dispersion.....
    proceed to hit 3 citadels

    • @treeherder42
      @treeherder42 Рік тому

      It look bad, but it was perfect for the target.
      Nice tight groups of shells are ideal, but against that broadside FDR the terrible horizontal dispersion shells to land on the full length of the ship since the verticle was awful, but perfectly suited to the shot.

  • @DariusJones05
    @DariusJones05 Рік тому

    I love seeing Bourgogne’s on the water. Free damage for me 😂

  • @emiliohontucan4877
    @emiliohontucan4877 Рік тому

    Small caliber yeah, but can cit a Yama 22 km away than my Monty

  • @RabidTazmanianChihuahua
    @RabidTazmanianChihuahua Рік тому

    I wish I could get that ship, but Ive been playing since the beginning of steel, and I still don't have even 10k. I don't play clan battles at all, and ranked only rarely, so yeah I know it's my fault I don't have any lol.

  • @heroictesticles6870
    @heroictesticles6870 Рік тому +2

    Bourgogne or Mecklenburg? Nearing the time where I can buy my first steel ship and have my eye on the Mecklenburg. Current favorite BB is the St vincent and want an upgrade to that but with a similar playstyle (battlecruiser, not very tanky). Mecklenburg with its 16 guns is very tempting.

    • @strykersgamingltd
      @strykersgamingltd Рік тому +1

      I have them both. I love playing them. My first was the Ohio, followed by the Bourgogne. I just obtained the Mecklenburg last month. Bourgogne is the better of the 3 because it's highly mobile and maneuverable with decent long range accuracy. You'll enjoy whichever one you decide on.

    • @Cmdr_Krella
      @Cmdr_Krella Рік тому +1

      ​@@strykersgamingltd OP

    • @strykersgamingltd
      @strykersgamingltd Рік тому

      @@Cmdr_Krella I've been called many a thing; however, OP is not one of them! 🤣😂

  • @ninetenduh
    @ninetenduh Рік тому

    Couldn't find a One take on the almighty Marlborough.

  • @coralski9373
    @coralski9373 Рік тому

    I still agree that it's a fun boat when you get a good roll on matches, but (and this might just be me not using her in the best way) the lack of hp and armour Really hurts this ship with super ship games.. Satsuma is an extreme example of long range overmatch, and the dpm is just insane at the tier. It's left me having to sit back in games, waiting for my team to win the initial push, and I can then push in to clean up, but unfortunately it's not as high impact as I'd like it to be in the early game.
    Get a t10 or even t8 mm though and it's a blast, but super ships are getting more and more common unfortunately

    • @tominmtnvw
      @tominmtnvw 7 місяців тому

      Thank God everyone doesn’t follow your example and sit back and wait for someone else to do something.

  • @user-gh3uo2wu3q
    @user-gh3uo2wu3q Рік тому

    Considering between Mecklenburg and Bourgone

  • @riccardofontanesi1271
    @riccardofontanesi1271 Рік тому

    Ragnar coughing at the front door

  • @its_yeet_or_get_yeeted7845
    @its_yeet_or_get_yeeted7845 Рік тому

    Is no one going to acknowledge the most amazing thing that happened in this battle??? A shima actually used its guns!!

  • @leilavergerius9223
    @leilavergerius9223 Рік тому

    Hello, im between Shikishima and Bourgogne which one i shall get first?. Regards.

  • @duncan6406
    @duncan6406 Рік тому

    Next month I will be mine I can’t wait 😁

  • @SuperCrazf
    @SuperCrazf Рік тому

    Mecklenburg is a good alternative if you hate French ships (i dont but some people do)

  • @jasonweber4866
    @jasonweber4866 Рік тому

    What's the name of that sub mod? that looks pretty handy

  • @gstormcz
    @gstormcz Рік тому

    Bourgogne was my 3rd steel ship after Shiki and Stalingrad, but fully agree with you.
    I had at least 2 funny matches with this one.
    Once finished 2 DDs, other time made it last man in team against Ragnar and Nakhimov, although DD was low HP and came from open water for one of 2 caps I guarded, CV was scary to me but juking close to island made him much less effective. DD died and CV was out of spot range, but anyway caps defended, made me satisfied.
    But there is so many ships around, I like to try or grind, WG knows how to keep players in.
    Also playing mostly temporary modes, brawls, ranked or special events sometimes, so it less time for T10s.

  • @MidwestMSW
    @MidwestMSW Рік тому +1

    Everyone says how great it is but these videos it largely underwhelms in the amount of broadsides that get shown to it and it just doesn't deliver that damage. Its basically just a fun battlecruiser in a BB slot from the time's that I've played it.

  • @zane660
    @zane660 Рік тому

    What about Brisk on Bourg?

  • @gudmgu
    @gudmgu Рік тому

    Fav Ship

  • @varanzmaj
    @varanzmaj Рік тому

    Caveat: If you suck with BattleShips, you will suck with the Burgogne. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN CHOOSING YOUR FIRST STEEL SHIP!!!
    PQ is primarily a BB player, do not buy BBs unless you are very confident in their use. I have bought the Ohio, and I suck completely with it. Maybe some day I will get good at BBs but currently, I am focused down and destroyed 9/10 times before I can get 10k damage.

    • @armanhadi777
      @armanhadi777 Рік тому

      10k in a Ohio is very bad. That is a bad salvo worth of damage.

  • @bruinsfan3725
    @bruinsfan3725 Рік тому

    mans flexing that war paint camo every chance he gets (id do the same)
    that commander build tho...

  • @ImRandomDude
    @ImRandomDude Рік тому

    every high speed ship is enjoyable. it opens map to play around

  • @Gysenstein1291
    @Gysenstein1291 Рік тому

    whats on spacebar?

  • @Brand_212
    @Brand_212 Рік тому

    When you said all the Tech tree ships, i think of all classes. And yet the CV and Subs is still missing

    • @tominmtnvw
      @tominmtnvw 7 місяців тому

      He thinks CVs and subs suck, and so do I.

  • @Mortifix
    @Mortifix Рік тому

    French disperson really is a roll of the dice. When I play the JB or Bourgogne, I don't bother continue playing that ship if wargaming decides my shots shouldn't land.

  • @leroiarouf1142
    @leroiarouf1142 Рік тому

    This was my first premium

  • @NotTheRookie
    @NotTheRookie Рік тому +2

    >"I enjoy brawling so much"
    >kites away so much the CV is in front of you

  • @KellyEastwood855
    @KellyEastwood855 Рік тому

    I just got this ship for steel. I think Bourgogne is not a particularly good ship, but can be fun, depends really on the DDs and brawlers in the team. My favourite T10 BB is the Schlieffen, so I spontaneously compared the two. Bourgogne has very inconsistent guns, absolutely unreliable, like the Schlieffen (more range on the Bourgogne, but doesn't really add more DMG, since the Schlieffen has 420 mm). Both are short of healthpool and have paperthin hull, they are battlecruisers as you also stated. BUT Schlieffen has torps, hydro, AND the secondaries! So for me Schlieffen is the better of the two. I have 55,64 % WR, 8000 battles. My WR with the Schlieffen is 57 %. So I'm not a complete noob, I know the game a little bit.

  • @sirdancealot2645
    @sirdancealot2645 Рік тому

    I am so sad I wasted my steel on Shikishima man. I think I would enjoy Burger much more...

  • @sardaukerlegion
    @sardaukerlegion Рік тому

    For steel i got Bourgogne, Ragnar and Staliniumgrade - And since Tromp Ragnar is no longer really needed.

    • @shadowsaberXYZ
      @shadowsaberXYZ Рік тому +1

      Lol what? Trump and Ragnar are nothing alike.

    • @sardaukerlegion
      @sardaukerlegion Рік тому

      @@shadowsaberXYZ Trump is better. Not only 6 150 mm guns, it has torps, airstrike and better concealment. No radar, but that can be helped by radio location.

  • @TGCofDM
    @TGCofDM 5 місяців тому

    It’s just a bigger Alsace 🤷

  • @florianbielawa2919
    @florianbielawa2919 Рік тому

    Only steel ship i want is the Incomparable, but as I dont have an option to earn much steel i hope one day it will be available for coal

    • @jsmith6145
      @jsmith6145 Рік тому

      It took a really long time but I actually got enough steel for the Austin without ever playing a clan battle

    • @MK-wx5vu
      @MK-wx5vu Рік тому +1

      I dont play cb and i have Bourgogne and Stalin already. It's definitely doable

    • @glenwagner4013
      @glenwagner4013 Рік тому

      Got the Renown 44 and whaled the St Wincent just before I was able to get my first ship. I was NEVER a fan of 6 gun battleships but loved the St Vincent and the Renown 44 SO MUCH I went nuts and got the INCOMPARABLE. I DONT regret it

    • @glenwagner4013
      @glenwagner4013 Рік тому

      She's a fing beast

  • @berserker4940
    @berserker4940 Рік тому

    CV = G R E A T S A T A N

  • @kaletsu2270
    @kaletsu2270 Рік тому

    Champagne is fun too lower tier and without of reload buttob

  • @okanui
    @okanui Рік тому

    love watching your content bro

  • @Posilepton
    @Posilepton Рік тому

    Bourgogne dispersion isn't great at all and that's shown in the video. It has practically the same guns as GK. The only ship with worse dispersion is Columbo but that has 16 guns and SAP.

  • @KellyEastwood855
    @KellyEastwood855 11 місяців тому

    Very bad ship! U may have some lucky btls with it, but cannot turn the tide like a Schlieffen

  • @emir7135
    @emir7135 Рік тому

    man they are too many new ships and youre posting a bourgogne gameplay, come on