Does India Hate Strong Women In Movies?
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2023
- The discussion regarding equal pay in #bollywood has been a long going one! Are actors like #deepikapadukone #aliabhatt #priyankachopra and #katrinakaif deserving of the same pay cheques like #ranveersingh and #ranbirkapoor . The Khans of course are in a different league altogether. I hope you like the video on The Harsh Truth About Equal Pay In Bollywood
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I absolutely loved the character of Devasena in Bahubali. She was not only physically strong but knew how to make a stand. She tells off Shivgami for fixing her marriage without her consent even though she came from a smaller kingdom. She never showed any sign of fear when she often rebuked Shivgami when she turned a blind eye to her son's wrongdoings. We need more characters like this.
Entire bahubali is crap full of misogyny . When women are talking they talk about men and nothing else. Most of them are just love interest of lead and have 0 character or conflicts
ikr no one ever talks ab how bahubali female characters are written. both shivagami and devasena knew their worth and stood up for themselves instead of listening to the men all the time
And Tamannah got raped in that same movie 🤷♀️
@@monihasnone6137 😅 i always thought why no one points out this issue
When i was child i didn't find any issue but now i find it wierd
Omg youre sooo right when you talked about how nobody stops investing in male actors despite bad performances consecutively
Yes because of ability to pull audiences to theatres. Even women don't watch female led movies in this country. Barbie made less money than Oppenheim
@@nknkannadiga9742 Barbie has crossed 1 billion already almost twice as much as Oppenheimer
@@shellysharma6274 I am talking about india dude. Not whole world
@@shellysharma6274the movie isn't doing well because of Margot robbie. It's the viral barberheimer marketing campaign, that has done the trick. Oppenheimer is a slow and long character study movie. It's not supposed to be entertaining for the audience that just wants to have a good time.
So naturally Oppenheimer will make less or way less than Barbie.
MARGOT ROBBIE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY BARBIE IS MAKING.
@@nknkannadiga9742 bc mard log gaye the dekhne
Remember when in the early 2010s Vidya Balan delivered female lead 100 crore blockbuster films like The Dirty Picture & Kahani consecutively....And again in 2016-17 She alone delivered Superhits Kahani 2 & tumhari Sulu ❤ Even in Mission Mangal (2019), she was the boss lady... missing that Vidya Balan era in the box office 🌟✨
Mission Mangal was good. But Akshay Kumar spoiled it. He played like some messihaa for the women which was pukish
She was so hot in Dirty Picture. Even silk smitha didn't show this much glamour 🤪 And Mission Mangal was hinduphobic cringe.
Greta Gerwig is actually a big name everywhere, people in India just haven't seen her work. Her last two films were nominated for Best Picture for god's sake. Little Women is one of the best movies of the last decade.
Nolan has been big in india for years
You're confusing 'Acknowledged by critics' with popularity. Greta is not a household name everywhere, while Nolan is. There sure is a lot of people who've seen little women or knows of her work, but nowhere near the reach Nolan has, especially since he does Sci Fi which is much more palatable to a wider audience and kids
@@Aro7241 She is a huge name now everywhere since Barbie has crossed the billion dollar mark.
This year Greta got the commercial success she always deserved and Nolan is finally going to win an Oscar for making so many iconic movies.
@@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf Still the name is known for people who follows film culture, and people just started getting familiar with her. A random Aunty or Uncle would've heard of Christopher Nolan atleast from their kids, because he's been part of memes and movie talk for a decade. Greta is..Duffer or Russo Brothers - famous. While Nolan is almost part of pop culture as James Cameron or Speilberg. Now those.. are household names. Shes got time ahead
Believe it or not, she is going on the rajamouli trend of not yet giving a flop.
Her first 3 directorial movies made money
Everything Everywhere all at once was written with the idea of Jackie Chan as the lead. But when Jackie wasn't interested, they reached out to Michelle. They did not change the script, just did a role reversal for the lead and she won the best female actress in Oscars.
It was same case with movie Salt. Salt was written for Tom Cruise not Jolie. But when you write a strong character, it automatically becomes powerful irrespective of gender.
But you can notice how Hollywood or Bollywood writes strong characters ( mostly keeping men in their mind).
So true 💯
Absolutely. Everything everywhere all at once is the best example.
So sad
I agree with "who brings more crowd will get the bigger paycheck" but the problem is that actors get those roles while the actresses are reduced to just eye candies in movies. We have to accept that larger than life movies are made for actors and never for the actresses at least in bollywood, they are just there to romance with the hero. Of course actresses will not be paid the same amount because they are not getting the same opportunities.
Yes, I think its important to acknowledge that because of the years of male actors ruling the business and rare off shoots of female superstars, just the volume of movies catering to the men as leads is HUGE so a level playing field is important to strive for.
The issue actually lies in the fact that auidence just do not turn up in huge numbers to watch female led movies. Like most of us should ask why Gangubai Kathiawadi (even though it did fantastic BO numbers) could not eveb reach anywhere near the BO nunbers of Pathaan. Also another question arises what would have happened in Deepika would have led Pathaan instead of SRK. Would the movie have been a masive success like it is? Its we as auidence who can bring about a change. We should turn up in huge numbers to watch a female led movie.
@@seemonjena659 Beacause pathaan is a comeback of srk after 4 years and pathaan is trash movie once again Srk was the saving grace of the movie. Your comparision of both movies itself is worng.
Come on. Let's take a movie like Pathan or RRR. It's made for men to be the lead. We don't even want women in that. It would just as well. Because it's action and style of choreography only suits men. Imagine if women did the climatic battle. It would be super cringe.
On other hand grounded action movies suits women. Larger than life action doesn't suit women. It suits men. It only suits women if it's a superhero movie. Otherwise it's even more unbelievable than before.
But grounded action movies doesn't sell more than larger than life movies. So again men comes out topper in earning. It's unfortunate. But what can we do? No one is to blame. It's just unfortunate
THIS!
A project with female lead, a great story, and an able director if given the same budget has the potential to do the numbers . We don't have dearth of good actress. Some of the actresses have more followers than khans on social media...what we don't have is a good script and an audience who is genuinly interested to see female led movies
@@ankitpatro1173 hum apkay hai kuan, kuch kuch hota hai where was these movies made. In the sky
@@ankitpatro1173Barbie is the bigger IP compared to biopic Oppenheimer plus it has PG 13 rating compared to 18+ of Oppenheimer.
Most of them followers are horny
You know why female actresses have more following on social media, right?
@kochikame363 I don't know who is Elvish Yadhav? UA-camr hain kya?
In my opinion, Gender shouldn't be a criteria for salary... Salary must be directly proportional with the profit an actor/actress makes...
More profit = more salary....
Of course, this method has its own pros and cons... But I feel this method is better....
This would also be helpful for the producers.... 💯🙌
I think that's why the profit percentage for a star like Aamir works wonders because he bears the risk of making nothing also as he does not take an upfront fees! If the movie is highly profitable however, he takes a fat chunk.
@@TriedRefusedProductions Yeah even actresses knows this that they cant take such risks. Moreover your question's answer is simple that when an actress will be able to bring audiences even for average movie, then they will be also considered like thier success rather than director's success like happened in pathan and in so many movies of salman khan. In my opinion Kangna was on that path but failed. Moreover this is also need to be admitted that most audience just goes for actresses as beauty only. So they dont care which actresses which increases the band of choices to cast an actress. Hence more supply less price. I even see this as bad for males too. As there are high chance of females to get such big film but very low chance for males to get such bog films. Shahrukh,salman,hirthik aaj tak jagah leke baidhe hain. Iss beech kitini saari actresses ko kaam mila. Two sides of coins.
That is not foolproof system because it puts the onus on audience alone. The fact is that audience turning out to watch a female lead movie is way less than a male lead.
It doesn't hold producers responsible for paying their male stars tens of crores, while female leads don't even get a fraction of that.
Profit sharing should be in place, but it should not be the sole mechanism. Base pay from producers should be gender agnostic, profits will speak for themselves.
Male stars got away with demanding 20% of the entire film budget because they used to bring in first weekend audience, but that is no longer the case. It is time producers re-evaluated this aspect.
Actors make profit , story/script, direction, music etc make profit, big stars (so called) in Hollywood & bollywood(jokers), give flops, nobody goes to see them.
Nice thought , but don't think again 😒
If you see the discourse surrounding Barben-heimer in India. I personally saw a lot of Indians saying that men who watch Barbie are 'gay' and it is only a 'girl's' movie. They were also ridiculing the audience who went for Barbie. So saying that misogyny doesn't have any part to play in box office revenue is tone deaf imo. I cant say for western countries, but that certainly is the case in India
Chad men. Barbie su%ks. If men in foreign knew about intentional of Barbie beforehand then they surely they wouldn't have watched it
same in Sri Lanka. watching Oppenheimer is considered manly
Yeah noticed that, but on opposite side of spectrum there were some infulencers who straight out started juding and giving sugestions like 'if you're bf / friend dosen't wanna watch barbie wearing a pink shirt(pink colour which was offensive to femenists up until barbie as it's patriarchal coulour set for girls or some bs) are mysogynists and sexists. Even this mentality is sickening. Both are wrong. Plus Barbie isn't a big thing in India as in west cause girls here mostly haven't played with it when they were kids, that can be a reason too.
@@commonsenseii While I do agree that too is wrong. I saw more from the Oppenheimer side. Also, the topic of the video was that do female lead effect box office success. That's why I was making that analogy.
@@Adil28128 cool 👍. It's wrong to judge men who wanna go to barbie as gays too, thats the toxic masculinity which doesn't make sensitive guys more outspoken and talkative and most end up lonely and introverts. And also making fun of guys who wear pink.
I would request you to see Arundhati which was made in Telugu and dubbed in various other languages. That female led film put Anushka into the picture and she was in direct competition with her male counter parts. The teacher turned actress gave equal and even more box office collection than anyone but I guess she was not paid equally. The movie was a huge hit in Tamil Nadu also.
Pay won’t get decided based on movie under signing. It depends on previous movies and her impact. had she delivered more movies like that, may be she could bridge in next movies.. she came back being commercial heroine in next movies..
Tbh, Arundathi was not a film that became successful coz of Anushka's name. The brand of that film is director Kodi Rama Krishna Garu who has been doing films since 80s. Anushka gained fame through that movie not the other way round
@@niharika9323I agree but her acting had great contributions you can’t just discard it
@@jaigagandeep.s5100 not to sound disrespectful but honestly I felt she did overacting. Especially in that drum dance scene I was laughing. Ppl think she looked good in that role only coz she has tall and hefty figure unlike other thin and chotu south heroines.
@@niharika9323 no , she did her best . Arundhati is one of my all time favourite movies. She did great acting. If that was overacting that what acting would be best according to you for the theme .
Julia Roberts at her prime was the most highly paid actress of her time. Even when she came with big names opposite to her. Basically her name was enough to get people watching the movie she was in.
Not a single actress even in Hollywood today has the pull she had in her prime, let alone her one in Bollywood.
If there is an actress who has the charisma like Julia Roberts in India,she will not achieve success. Because in India the majority of the films are male focused films and the female actors only play supporting characters. The films that made him famous were romantic films where the female lead dominated the screen
You are correct, when there was a romantic genre the movie usually revolves around the girl, but in the indian movie industry the story is written in a way that even though the movie revolves around the actress the actor still takes the lead.
If we leave Julia Roberts aside, in Hollywood they are female dominated movies that were written and they did very well. 10 things I hate about you, Never been kissed, She is all that, the hunger games, the kissing booth, kill bill, tomb raider at one point Angelina go le in any movie would be the lead no matter who she came with. MR AND MRS SMITH same role and same amount of space was given to her in role as Brad Pitt.
@@maryamrashid8927 because the majority of romantic movie viewers are women. The guy can't enjoy romantic movies. They call it the chick flick genre -film led by a female protagonist and aimed at a female audience. Usually about romance.
Only in India are the majority of films predominantly male and female actors only play supporting characters. Even though it's a romantic movie. In industri other than Hollywood such as Hongkong, China, Korea, Indonesia, female actors play the main characters with equal screen time. They also have a lot of romantic films led by female protagonist
@@mbakturi9857 one more thing I like to add if it's a female dominated movie in Bollywood, the co actor is not appealing to the female audience, basically he would not be as good looking, but if it's a romantic genre where the actor dominates no matter what his age he is the girl opposite will be really hot , young and sexy. one way Hollywood attracts women is where the opposite actor is Dam hot so the ladies would have a girls night out to go watch that chick flick. But you have to admit even though they are chick flicks they do well at the box office, we have one example Barbi the movie it is the highest grossing movie of the year so far and not only women but men have also gone to watch it. It has done better than Oppenheimer, Missison impossible, Indiana Jones. Basically in Bollywood we need a strong character that can be played by both sex and in end of casting who ever preforms well should be give the role no matter what their sex is.
Nayanthara and Anushka Shetty managed to do it effortlessly down south.Anushka was once a rampage, Arundhati was a rage during those times. On another note, hope you watch Porthozhil and add it to the year end top 10 list :)
But it's also sad to see how a superstar like Anushka Shetty gets replaced as a lead so easily after a particular age bracket. I think this is different in HIndi cinema as the likes of Kareena and Tabu in their 40s and 50s are still bagging lead roles.
@@TriedRefusedProductions the truth is anushka herself has distanced from films and working on her health as far as i know
@@TriedRefusedProductions first learn about true reason, don't just blabber anything about anushka....SRK ki bhi aukaat dikh jaayegi...He is approaching 60 and won't be able to do action movie anymore, then will see how much fake box office pull he has....
@@harshraj6116yeah, but SRK despite being 60 is in insane shape and can move pretty well for his age. He can also do some of his stunts. The movie isn't dominated by men because it's designed that way. It's because men can do things women won't be able to do.
@@Sunny-sc5vq men can't expose. This is also a fact. Everyone wants to see beauty, nothing wrong in this. You cannot demean role of eye candy. She is exposing by will and is getting paid. When your boobs are half exposed in award show, do you expect male audience to look away? They are exposing by choice and male looking at them is not wrong. TJMM worked because it has lot of expose by shraddha kapoor, otherwise it wouldn't have collected half of it's collection. Sach bol paata nahi, gol gol english me bolkar baate ghooma do...
Shobana was one among the highest paid and sought actress in malayalam from 80's. She is one among those actresses who act simultaneously in commercial films and art films.Even many of her contemporaries( who were equally popular and talented)like Revathi and Urvashi were not paid the same as that of Shobana when these trio were successfully handling movies in 80's and 90's in Malayalam Film industry. But post their prime, they were just reduced to side roles but Shobana still had the ability to pull audience even in 2020 that was evident witj varane avashyamund movie.
Just want to highlight there is a marathi movie by name "Baipan Bhari Deva" which is a female led movie and it is making so much at box office just because of the better story line and not because of actresses present in them.
@kochikame363salman kha ka naam suna hai?
@kochikame363india mei movie actor ke naam pe hi chalta hai
@@enroutewithTAGEhe's now on footpath
@@siddharthdhulipala24 seriously? 😂 Ok i get it u are one of those baseless people who will say anything for the sake of winning.
@@enroutewithTAGE beta movie tab hit hoti h jab vo theater m 10 din chale na ki 3 din
Nayanthara quite well did change the perception of society towards women centric films. She was gutsy to do many versatile films with even debutant directors that has attained big commercial and critical success 🙌
What I like the most is her films unlike many others' aren't based on the gender part and instead on the stories. Also she doesnt carry herself like an emotionless robot just for the sake of appearing 'strong'. Her films are like male actor films that has developed character arcs ❤
Also from south, she's the first and only to get 10 cr remuneration. She definitely owns the major contribution in changing dynamics
Yeah, her Netrikann is a great example. I found it to be more realistic than Kabil in some aspects.
So did Vidya balan
Except that is Anushka Shetty not nayanthara and there were loads of actresses like vijayashant,soundarya in the telugu in 80s and 90s as well
@@user-jn7bq8wh1e vidya balan will flop
@@VARMOT123 🤣🤣🙏
Prithviraj also talked about the same in one of his interview. He talked about How Aishwarya Rai got remuneration than him in The movie Ravanan, even though Prithviraj being a Malayalam superstar. Just like Amir said, remuneration of an actor depends upon how much people he/she bring to the theatres. And comparing to Prithviraj Aishwarya Rai has more star power in a pan India level.
One major Thing I notice is That With Male lead I can make a Succesful hit with no logic movies or Just mass movies with Mediocre scripts but with Female I need a great script with good director to make sure film works at box office
Veere di wedding was as shitty as it could get. But did well on box office.
NO
@@anubhavjaintj True.
Only 27% of the nation's women are working women !
Let that sink in ! No wonder why female centric films don't usually become hits unless their budgets are very miniscule
One of the reason why Barbie is a blockbuster is how intelligently warners bros. promoted it. Even though the movie delt with feminism they never used them in the promotion, they just promoted it as a sit back and have good time kind of a movie unlike most female lead movies.
I believe that the wide pay gap is also a result of the kind of characters that are written for women in films. Most can be played by any female actress as all they want from the 'heroine' of the film is to look beautiful and romance with the 'hero'. This does not let the actresses to contribute or drive the narrative of the film which leads to the little acknowledgment of their work. When established actresses choose to play eye-candies, it pushes the notion further.
And, its not always the director who gets the credit for female films. Vidya Balan for Kahani, Kangana for Queen, Tapsee for Pink, Alia for Darlings are example where the female contribution were equally hailed. But those are good films to say the least.
If established actresses raise their voice for equal pay, they have to stop playing second fiddle the male leads and work in films where their characters become their own and add to the narrative! Unpopular opinion, but even Deepika's character in Pathan followed the trope of playing the ultimate love interest of Pathan and seducing her rather than having her own nuanced character arc. Alia in Brahmastra, I should not even say anything.
@happymanthegr8156 do u consider that a character arc?
It's simply put.
Male stars tend to bring in more audience compared to Female stars.
Hence male stars tend to get more pay.
If female stars can bring in as good as the audience as that of male stars, they too would get paid on similar level.
I agree but it is a simplistic take especially when just the volume of movies with male stars vs female stars is lopsided
@@TriedRefusedProductions problem is writers too don't tend to work on female centric characters much. They find it easy to do it for male stars.
@@Fe-ironman mainly because they happen to be the main characters of the movie. Also if they happen to be a product of nepotism then consider it a done deal
Simple as that 🗿
A project with female lead, a great story, and an able director if given the same budget has the potential to do the numbers . We don't have dearth of good actress. Some of the actresses have more followers than khans on social media...what we don't have is a good script and an audience who is genuinly interested to see female led movies
Sridevi was the only actress to reject movies against the biggest star of country Amithab Bachan. She is the only actress who had equal role as Amithab sir in Khuda Gawah, only actress to share climax in Amitabh starter in killing the villain together, dual role. Not only Amitabh bachan, she had that power to share such screen presence with other south starwalts like Chiranjeevi, Rajini kant, Kamal Hassan etc. Most dual roles in bollywood, first female superstar and first true pan Indian star who was ruling south and bollywood industries at the same time. It was sad that she got very limited strong scripts, if given more good scripts she had all the calibre to deliver much more strong performances. English vinglish was one such example which was awesome even if she did comeback after many years.
Sridevi is irreplaceable. But I still feel she made a wrong step of choosing more bollywood films. Most of the times they just exposed her figure in male dominated films. But in that also her acting caliber was more or equal to the male star. But her earlier films in Tamil was just superb, specifically with those with Kamal Haasan. I mean if only actress who could hv matched Kamal in acting was Sridevi. 16 vayathinile is great example.
existance of "sigma males, attitude kings, boys vs girls reels," is the answer to your question bro
I would like to know how many women are comfortable and confident to go watch a movie alone in India. Since i came out of India, going for movies on first day alone become so normal for me. When i was in India, i wouldn't have done it on first week of a superstar starrer movie or on first week of a major blockbuster. Even after a week, i wouldn't go alone to a non-urbannnon-multiplex theater.
For women, Even if you want to go watch a women centric movie like Barbie, they need companions.
I think the biggest problem are the lack of financial independence, female friendly community spaces, and female companionship. Once married, most women go for a movie that their family or husband is comfortable. Many women fail to maintain their female friendship circle after marriage, who would be much more fun group to go with for a movie like barbie...
PS: a friendship circle that is not focused on in-law, children or their husband. How many married women could go for even local one day trip with their women group.
I am a woman and I go to movies alone and I am so comfortable with that. I clearly have at least one self date every month and it is very refreshing.
@@bhatki_gaayika that's actually really good to hear ... From my personal experience that's not common especially in tier 2 or 3 cities or rural areas. I have friends and colleagues from across India, but most look at me or my friend who go on solo trips and outings as some strange little things.
💯 This Comment deserves more likes. In Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities, woman watching a movie alone is still uncommon.
Also it stems from the accomodating nature of women that they would rather watch a movie, eat a cuisine, visit a place which their family would enjoy together than to do the alternate thing alone which they enjoy.
Exactly well said....
@@Testuser582 may be in social media world , in reality even village girls go to movies freely
The barbie vs oppenheimer collection in India (anomaly) as compared to the world can be attributed to the lack of financial autonomy for women when it comes to luxury like cinema.
I agree there are many other reasons... But the women audience needs to become financially autonomous to actually put their weight behind the kind of cinema they wanna see.
I think in india boy would also have watched it but they should have hindi dubbed
Extremely financially independent female here. I earn my own money. My parents bought me a Barbie doll house when I was young. I am still fascinated by the doll. Saying this to say that I am well in touch with my feminine side. Had the opportunity to watch both the movies in theatre. I chose to watch Oppenheimer. I loved it. Didn't go to watch Barbie. I am a huge Greta Gerwig fan. Have watched all her movies before this.
So nothing to do it Financial independence. There is a lot to do with preference.
I agree
I Think there are as men viewers of Barbie as there are women viewers of Barbie.
They're watching it because its a great movie, not because there are only female viewers of Barbie, and also one part of marketing of Barbie( the memes one ) was kind of centered toward males as the memes were showing Soldiers,Sigma Figures to buy Barbie tickets( Four tickets to Barbie,please ), so yeah we can also say that they attracted both male and female viewers toward them. One reason is also that Barbie is PG13 while Oppenheimer is R-rated, so it's obvious that Oppenheimer would have a lower collection than Barbie.
Also Barbie itself is a luxury toy in India, unlike the west where it is a practical household item. That factor people need to consider.
It’s also interesting to note that in PS1 and 2 Chiyaan Vikram got a slightly higher paycheque than Aishwarya Rai. Even though the latter could pull much bigger crowd here in the north. I don’t know I may be wrong. As much as I remember a lot of people went for PS1 and 2 only for Aishwarya Rai.
Because it was a Tamil movie. nd Aishwarya is hardly a BO draw now.
@@sauron2000000 Many people in the north who have watched Ash since 90’s and 2000’s did go solely for her. There is a lot to do with the recall value of ARB’s work. Nobody would simply watch it just because it’s a Tamil movie. It was a highly anticipated movie. Though one can’t deny that the subject matter (Chola empire) and Mani Ratnam as well respected director did give the extra pull.
I agree with you that ash can bring in more people from the north but if you see the collection reports both ps1 and 2 have collected very little from the hindi belt. Ps 1 became the highest grossing film in Tamil nadu. Also vikram led films have broken records before so him being slightly more paid than ash is justified.
@@vinnienanda ok so let me tell you the thing is south market is much bigger than north
Its much much bigger
Also in south people are die heart fans of celebrities and must watch their movies even if they are bad
But its not the same in north except some exceptions like salman
Even sharu khan can't earn money on his name now the way he did before
@@vinnienandahe is working more actively
I was really waiting for this topic of video to drop about the pay of actors. In my opinion the pay should depend on the what a actor bringing on the table. For example in Gehrayia movie Deepika paid above from all the actors, Alia for Rocky Rani pay equal or above than Ranveer, Katrina paid higher than Ranbir for AJPKGK, Juhi chawala paid higher than Srk for Raju Gentleman, Madhuri for HAHK paid higher than Salman. I think a actor is getting paid according to their reach and what kind of numbers they are bringing on opening. If you ask me why will I watched Pathaan the answer is Srk. I respect all actresses and Deepika in this case but Srk for me the real reason.
You are bang on about this! I second the same sentiment too
You put it out very well brother!!!
I knew about Gehraaiyaan, but are you sure about the other four examples?
With all due respect I watched Pathaan for Jhon and I found him above everyone
Katrina paid higher mc konsa ganja fuka hain chutiye
Thanks for the Intro! Also, Exhibit A of how the ‘Time spent in the industry equals more pay’ falls flat on its face.
Mouni Roy plaing the antagonist in a 400cr project is an amazing step in this imo... Ayan trusted in her even b4 she made an entry into bollywood and she completely justified it. Surely we are going to see a rise in SENSIBLE female representation in upcoming years especially in the fantasy/superhero genre... Deepika in brahmastra sequels itself and project k is another example
Women are not fond of playing antagonists in action movies.
@@sauron2000000really?? 🙄
@@janvikhattar5911 Yes.
@@sauron2000000 Not true many actresses have played antagonist in bollywood movies
@@janvikhattar5911 Like who exactly?
well, I personally feel that the men should reduce their fees instead of the women increasing it. instead of investing in an actor invest in the story.
An underlying fact of this matter that might be unconsciously ignored by a lot of us is that we are inherently not used to imagining and witnessing lead female characters on screen who can pull that kind of character weight. And we are not used to that not because such a situation does not exist in reality, but because generations of filmmakers have been reluctant to portray them. The booming of female led films in Bollywood in recent times can be credited to the efforts of a few filmmakers who had the guts to experiment and invest in female stories and lead characters. So sometimes in order to pave an equal path forward, it is imperative to 'create' strong female characters to acclimatise the market to witness something rarely seen. To rule out misogyny and plainly say that audience reject badly written characters only based on the merit of the script is just plain black and white. Early bookings of Oppenheimer was high but if you had seen the tweets after both the films were released, Indians were bashing Barbie for trying to advocate the idea of feminism despite the film being enjoyable and even having a much beloved Ryan Gosling in it. Why? So misogyny is always a factor wrt Indian audience. It’s wrong to deny it.
@@aravindr740This is what you took from the whole comment??
Did people really bat an eye when they saw shivagami in bahubali
A strong woman character has to be believable and also with her own flaws
You might not get the same manic fan following that the male actors get where a woman does badass fight sequences
And pls stop labelling everything as misogyny
@@adithyanr7415but at the end she was reduced to his whims ..so strong women at the end defeated by men ..well that's mysogyny...there is inequality between men and women and mysogyny is rooted in our society
Not everything is simply "misogyny" , that's a simpleton outlook at this. No one truly likes to get lectured, Barbie had atleast 2 lecture speeches. barbie wouldn't been a hit , without the pink facade. It wouldn't have reached these heights without Oppenheimer and the whole barbenheimer meme.
Coming to our country, the biggest box office hits are always mass movies. Mass looks more organic when done by male actors, it's easier to digest Mammootty or Kamal Haasan , 70+ yo men throwing down multiple men than seeing a young fit actress doing it. Even Black Widow doesn't do that. You call this misogyny, I call it common sense.
Also, this saltiness over Oppenheimer's pre-bookings is so stupid, it's not misogyny. it's a freakin Nolan movie, starring the freakin Thomas Shelby, along with tony stark and it's a world war movie about a scientist who quoted the Bhagavad Githa. Indian guys were on the floor lol. On the other hand, barbie was a movie about a doll starring Harley Quin and the world's second most favorite Ryan.
The differences in hype these movies got in India is completely unproblematic. Barbie still managed to earn almost a third of what Oppenheirmer earned tho. your misogyny remark falls flat.
@@Fairypomegranate444 I'm sorry, how was shivagami reduced to bahubali's whims. did we watch the same movie?
Have you noticed though, for any male led movie to succeed, it doesnt have to have a real plot, mere presence of the actor makes it a blockbuster. But for a female led movie, it has to have a great plot, excellent acting and everything perfect with stars perfectly aligned.
However, the pay gap based on gender is quite real. The X-files series is one example, actor playing Dana was offered significantly less than Mulder, despite them having equally important role. She almost pulled out. And it makes no sense that some nepo kids getting payed higher than real actors. That being said, I agree with you when you say "right better stories with characters that happen to be female/ black/queer" dont force feed the audience with agendas.
That's because of stupid audience fan bases especially in India, people should trust a movie with content and go to theaters like trailers and movie reviews not blindly going like goats just with actors names.
The business justifies the paycheck. Same in sports and films. Who brings more money gets bigger paychecks simple. As far as the peoples perception is concern, it’s slowly changing
5:42 Yes, but not because of surface level analysis. There was a lot of very clear Anti-Barbie sentiment and also not surprised by Nolan’s popularity but people do make it a point about how he’s a celebrated auteur and that he’s the epitome of filmmaking.
Barbie movie cannot be used as a parameter to measure how interested ppl are in women centric films. But in India specifically south, Nayanthara has did many amazing films with good stories and also box office success.
It was not any grandeur factor or another factor that pulled the crowd to theatres.
Her name alone has pulled audiences to theatres who came out satisfied after the cinematic experience. Plus the directors she launched are now in big positions too.
Eagerly waiting for her next LadySuperstar75 ( yet to be titled) it seems like a breath of fresh air
This might seem too nitpicky but why should we refer to her as a lady superstar when the word superstar doesn't have a gender?
@@ithuvarada yes you're right. But Superstar means Rajnikanth. It's just established like that 😅❤️ that's why we can't use the same for Nayanthara also na.
3:39 Thank goodness she pointed this out. Also, the audacity of that trade guy saying rubbish with such confidence like it’s ‘part of the trade’.
I think Vidya Balan is a very smart woman. But this time I thought she got it all wrong.
@@Sunny-sc5vq Why?
@@PokhrajRoy. Because the movie was a success because it was an SLB movie. Alia Bhatt had little to do with its success. Look at his previous movies. All of his historical movies have been a roaring success. Actors had not much to do with it. The same goes for baahubali or RRR. Same goes for Rajkumar hirani. Does having a superstar help. Absolutely. But there are some directors who don't necessarily need big superstars to make successful movies. More often than not in these cases , the directors are the ones that make these superstars.
Are we seriously going to have a discussion here that Alia was the main reason for the movie's success?
@@Sunny-sc5vq As if Alia hasn’t given multiple successes across her career.
@@PokhrajRoy. She has? What are the names?
Raazi? Yes there's this one. Not going to take away the credit. This movie was heavily dependent on her.
Badrinath ki dulhaniya? She was paired with another successful actor in Varun Dhawan. And let me remind you he wasn't giving box office flops during that time.
Look, I'm not discrediting Alia in any shape or form, I'm just saying that the example Vidya Balan chose was a bad one. SLB is in a league of his own. And gangubai wasn't even a very good movie to be honest. And it pretty well during a pandemic hit time, and more importantly when bollywood was going through possibly its worse phase.
I totally agree with Kajol.
BUT
How will female actors deliver big hits if There aren't female led films to begin with? not saying we need to put RRR level budget or anything but we hardly find good scripts for females let alone big budget which can deliver pathaan level hits.
Only if we gamble on female films will it become normal and only then will we get more female scripts, then we get good scripts, then eventually we get bigger budgets for female films. It all starts with taking that bet. Someone has to start.
I’ve seen that a lot of people in the industry take away the wrong lessons and also, in film discourse circles, the idea of alternative storytelling is very narrow and maybe it’s not taken seriously by people.
Malayalam actress Sheela was one of the highest paid actresses of the 70s in Malayalam because she brought in a lot of money and she was a huge stargetting paid more than her male counterparts even when it was a two star film
I think she did most of her movies with prem nazir who was the biggest star at that time. It is doubtful that she was paid equal to prem nazir
I love your research and dept behind every video man.
What a line-"write a character to tell a story not to prove a point" . Great video
Then why didn’t the detractors say that by applying that logic, Tabu should be the highest earner as an actor since she’s worked around the same time as SRK and given both box office hits and great performances.
Sometimes, at the same time.
Can she pull the audience's?
Let's make a movie of 250 cr budget and let's see how much crowd see can pull. Are you gonna invest this budget as a producer?
@@rohan4273 Why does it have to be 250cr? Even if it’s not a 3 digit crore, movies should be allocated budgets based on the script
Can you name a few movies led by tabu as the biggest star that broke box office records?
Ohhh yes let's debate if someone should be paid 10cr or 30cr for 50 days off shooting... I mean such injustice to the society. How will the world survive!!!
Anushka Shetty with her Arundhati, Rudrammadevi, etc., were a hit. Kangana led movies were also hit. There are some bankable female actresses. But for the equal pay thing it has to be on a consistent basis to draw the audience. And as you said, Anuskha and Kangana led movies had strong characters which happened to be female.
I agree with the fact that the market dictates the pay of those in the entertainment business but unless we change the way it works we can't ever expect to have equality... before changing the audience preference the people making the movies need to bring that equality
Sorry to say that it will never happen! because the "people" making these blockbuster movies are all males 🗿
What about TV serials
Producers are making movie to make money. Why should they take risk in loosing money to empower women. If you really want it then let female producers who is hell bent on empowering women do it. I bet majority of the female producers will prefer to make male centric movies too. Don't think that movie industry is risk free industry. When 1 movie becomes hit 5 movies flop. It has been the case since the start.
When you make a movie it already has a 20-30% chance to flop because of high risk like many movies releasing in the same day or people becoming not interested. You are already in danger and we have to spend extra money for promotion to make audience excited. So making a movie to empower women will ad the chance of failure to 70%. Why should producers do that. Many producers get bankrupt because of failures. The existing ones are trying to survive, they're not enjoying. Some producers get a line of success. Maybe they can afford or maybe they won't risk.
Get out of the ideal world. Come to reality. Producers don't hate women, they hate loosing money.
I will never watch female led movies.
You sound like you missed out the entire point of this video.
If equal pay is agreed upon despite of the profit and commercial factor, it won't be no more empowerment. It'd be patronizing
I think anushka justified it v well. In a movie like pathan,of course srk should be paid more. But in movies like RRKPK or sathya prem ki katha, two leads carry equal fame and weight to the film. They actually bring equal crowds also. So in those films leads should be paid equally. I mean star power of ranveer right now is equal or less than alias. And same goes to kiyara and karthik...
In satyaprem Ki katha kartik aaryan is paid 25 cr whereas Kiara advani is paid 4cr. But kartik aaryan has way more screen time
If a female like gal gadot can bring in millions
So can our actresses, just need the right people and timing
A big salute for bringing this topic out to the open in tour platform Jammy
Looking forward to times when female actors would continue to be bankable in their mid 50s, while being celebrated like icons, similar to what male actors enjoy these days. It will require both the industry and the audiences to mend their ways ofc.
Or Women audience can start acting more like Male audience and go watch their female-icon's movie FDFS and celebrate it irrespective of how cringe it is...
Similar to how Sallu Bhai's fans keep on going for his movie even after he delivers cringe after cringe...
It's not about gender it's about who can pull the crowd.. period
yeah except that who pulls more crowd is about gender.
@@kavyaanon9741literally why are people interested in shitty film industry in my region people used word whore druggist manwhore etc for actors actresses do you know how much casting couch women face in film industry man women who belongs to streets are interested in film industry
Bhagamathie, a telugu movie with woman-centric plot, did great business in the box office without a conventional story or a dominant male character.
If bollywood or Hollywood cannot make it happen, it's their issue, they need to take care of. Its my favourite movie and no other movie in recent years can top that in respect of 'fierce woman character'.
N.B. I am not a telugu person.
women don't strive for equal pay, strive for what you are worth , if you are worth more then you get more. and also for big heroes even if there is no story in the movie they make money. but for a women centric movie everything should be perfect and only good director can do it.
Love love love your videos !!! Very insightful and very well researched . ❤
We also have to recognize that in India, men are the main customers, men overwhelmingly go to the cinema and while it is about the content, they still prefer a male lead and more likely to watch that then lets say an all assemble female cast film
2:13 Aamir Khan is right but even among people who started at the same time, the inequality is apparent.
It diesnt matter who started when, what matters is whose face is more saleable
That's exactly what he said, the inequality among actors and actresses who started at the same time (ex-Salman Khan and Amrita Singh) is apparent because they can't guarantee similar box office success. Because the audience won't go to the theatre for Amrita Singh film but, for a Salman khan.....film......You know the answer🤷🏻♀️
@@ananditachauhan5285 Yes, but the ‘saleable’ has been predominantly men. Very few female actors have had sustained careers apart from a few.
@@janvikhattar5911 Amrita Singh started way before Salman Khan and also she retired from leading roles so the argument does not apply here.
@@PokhrajRoy. yeah so thats how the pay disparity should be done. See morality is one thing and bhsiness is other thing. U cant dent your own pockets bcoz u want to reduce the pay disparity even though ur fenale star isnt that saleable or doesnt add much a box office value.
Men have to be allies, no doubt about it. Benedict cumberbatch had said many times that he’s open about his compensation with the actress opposite him. Bradley cooper too I think when he realized that Jlaw was paid 20% of his pay. Men have to walk the talk.
I agree, some solid points there.
Pay disparity based on box office revenue alone perpetuates gender inequality. Equal pay should be based on the principle of equal work and talent, regardless of gender, and promoting diverse storytelling can help change audience preferences. Addressing systemic biases is crucial for creating a fair and inclusive film industry.
Well said
I think it would be a naive approach especially in an industry dictated by ticket sales. An Aamir starring opposite Anushka in PK will presumably warrant the same pay grade for screen time on paper but the selling point of the film is Aamir, the trigger to purchase the ticket is him: One can't possibly justify equal pay where the box office pull is drastically different. Works in the case of Sui Dhaaga, ABCD, Tamasha etc
Writing this comment on youtube where the sponsorships are based on numbers
Why don't you make truck load money and put that money where your mouth is.
Oh shut up!
Some video ideas :
Jammy you need to make an analysis video on who were the most impactful actresses of 2010s
Who according to you was actually the best actress considering Commercial and critical successes in mind
*Will current actresses be able to shine in their 40s too?
*what went wrong with Sonakshi & Parineeti
*What if : Bipasha/Asin/Genelia/Lara in their peak didn't stop working; bcoz all of them filled different spaces, once they stopped so their place had to be filled by Nepo Gurlz
*What If Kareena never rejected all the plethora of blockbuster movies she had been offered
Would she have become an indestructible force?
How industry dynamics would have been then
*What if AishSalman episode never happened?
How would the industry have been since Aish lost some blockbusters because of the fiasco & had to transition to Hollywood, would Aish have got even more success in 2000s? (Eg:If Aish did Veer Zara, then Preity would have incurred massive professional loss)
*Why current actresses are not as charming, authentic & uniquely stylish as 90s-Early 2000s ones like Karishma Aish Sushmita etc
*Why are Bollywood movies failing to give the escapism and idealism it gave in 2000s wherein movies were set in picturesque locations, protagonists were fascinating and their lives seemed to be interesting and moreover songs ironically felt modern then
*Action will never be Bollywood's USP because we can never match with Hollywood's scale & budget; in a globalized world the audience is open to watch content irrespective of their place of origin, so if Hollywood caters the need of action films , should Bollywood return back to chill 2000s breezy rom com era because it was something we were doing well... Bollywood has become too dark & distant these days, at times i wonder for whom actually are they making movies
I think : in terms of Commercial success (in their whole career, not just the past decade)
(Highest to lowest)
Katrina
Kareena
Deepika
Priyanka
Alia
Anushka
Tabu
Vidya
Rani
Kangana
In terms of impact(2010s)
Deepika
Kangana
Tabu
Alia
Vidya
Sridevi
PeeCee
Anushka
Rani
Kareena
I think Sonakshi is finally getting some creative satisfaction with her ventures on streaming platforms. I hope Parineeti has an impactful role with the Imtiaz Ali film
@@hritiksaxena9894 No matter what Kareena will never become an indestructible force in bollywood even if she signed in any of those blockbuster movies
@@jayesh5131That's a narrow way of thinking. Kareena has the talent and portfolio to actually achieve that level should she choose to.
@@Maya_hee no way cares about kareena. people today still talk about sri devi and madhuri bcz of impact. people win the future will to talk about them with alia deepika and priyanka but not kareena
nothing will change until there’s better writing that focuses on not just making the male lead the HERO but the story and all the characters. also the way women characters are approached in commercial movies.
I am 40 and i am a big fan of Nolan but i still took my wife and daughter (6yrs) to see BARBIE coz i knew that they would not enjoy OPENHEIMER and i went to see OP alone .
Mardaani, Mardaani 2 and Hichki...not blockbusters but definitely commercially successful. Sadly, nobody acknowledged it. Also, in this day and age (post-pandemic) even Mrs Chatterjee Vs Norway did bring in good money.
You explained it properly. There are films where women are paid more. It totally depends on the main character of the movie or the actor or actress who brings audience to the theatre. This equal-pay is just a bogus.
Nowadays female actors are getting leading role too. They are paid more there. Instead of questioning for equal pay, ask for more female centric movies where an actress can show her ability and impress the audiences, like Razi, Mary Kom, English-vinglish.
You're right but he also said that in movies where actor and actress has an equally important role and an equal screen space. They should get an equal paycheck.
damn..... the consistency 🔥🔥🔥
I totally agree that right now the scenario is an uphill battle and not so easy.. however,
I feel that the day when a lead actress's presence is sufficient to pull huge crowds by itself, then there'll be no role of a discussion as this on that day as, if the money is guaranteed, the producers will pay more... N It's all about the demand.. at the end of the day.
And major factor to bring about such a change is the AUDIENCE. It's as simple as that.
Because, at least in current scenario of Indian movies, it'll be a disservice to the popularity garnered by the lead actors (super stars).. which bring majority of the masses into the theatres.... IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR ACTING PROWESS, PERFORMANCE OR TALENT... And this is a harsh reality, from economics standpoint, which is what drives any industry.
Literally the same applies to the Cricket vs Hockey/Football pay situation in India.
It is unfortunate, but IT IS on the shoulders of the audience to show their power... The power of democracy, as the audience judgement no matter what it is will be the ultimate driving force in the entertainment industry.
And seeing the recent impact of audience reactions, which were capable of destroying the seemingly sureshot success-movies like 83 or LSC or Adipurush, etc... and these are good indicators that now, the Audience hold the power... And if collectively audience can take the right steps and support deserving projects and reject the underwhelming ones, then surely change will come...
And equal pay can only be possible when seeing this change in audience, the producers realise that quality is everything, and take the leap of faith on talented people directors film makers, actresses to make good movies... And invest accordingly, and then if audience feel that's a good attempt, money will flow in... And things will take a turn in the right direction.
And if the audience response is not just good, but turns out to be overwhelming, like the high box-office numbers, for even female lead movies, and if that happens even once, i think, the trust of the producers will be gained, and they will start to support even if a movie fails down the line.
But so far this hasn't happened, where a female lead movie made a Bahubali kinda numbers....
Heck, even Prabhas (who imo, is a talented actor only in the hand sof a right director), got his National level popularity boom with one single movie... and the producers not realising that Prabhas's talent, magic can only be extracted when put in the hands of a right director... Have been investigating on bad projects hoping Prabhas's image is solely enough to being numbers... which turned kinda true unfortunately in case of projects like Saaho..
So, if a female lead movie does such huge numbers and gains such level of craze among the audience that even their underwhelming works become a hit... That would be the tipping point for a BIG CHANGE.
I still feel Prabhas's success his due to his directors extracting the talent out of him, but, Prabhas surely by himself has a very loyal fanbase who are eeady to support even Adipurush... So, that's the kinda popularity and craze a female lead has to achieve to be able to break any kinda status quo... in the mindsets of the producers.
So, it is a huge responsibility of the audience to see this through by supporting only the deserving content, and the content-creators should take up the task of supporting good content genuinely, without any bias, and guide, promote such works to the audience, making this possible.
Apart from this no other arguments or discussions will lead to anything, as a solution oriented practical approach is objectively better than any other arguments...
- Absolutely, the notion that men being threatened by strong female lead is bogus as Wonder women of Gal gadot or Harley Quinn or everything everywhere all at once were superhit blockbusters, where as the bad movies like Wonder women 1983, Captain Marvel, bombed.
It's all about the relatability, good writing, engaging story and great characters that matter.
And main reasons Indians didn't show much interest for Barbie are 1. Nolan, 2. No relatabilitybof playing with Barbies, as that culture was not as prevalent in India during those days, during Barbie's peak in the US.
I like how Amir maturely put up his views on equal payment. Its high time for some actresses to NOT make it the biggest issue ever in the industry
I have huge respect for Aamir especially because I remember clearly him getting cornered in that interview with a smug remark by the journalist stating 'female anchors get paid the same, why not actors too' : It made no sense
People who are feminists don’t understand economics. Yet the moment you utter a word against them, they immediately use weapons against you like “You don’t have a mother at home, hope no woman marries you” etc. That’s why men in general are afraid to have a diverse opinion. You either have to agree with their movement or you straight up hate women. Logic and facts don’t matter anymore. And their biggest hypocrisy is they will call men incels for having diverse opinions (which means they are not able to attract women for sex) and at the same time hate men for being players (having multiple sexual partners). If a man’s value is attached to how much sex he gets, shouldn’t men being players be a good thing? These are just two hypocrisies I unraveled from the top of my mind but as you dig deeper into the feminist movement, you realize it’s all filled with hypocrisies!
Well it is a huge issue! Actresses still don’t have the opportunities actors have and are not fairly compensated except for rare few occasions. Why should actresses not be compensated fairly for their contributions? Why shouldn’t actresses get the same opportunities actors get?
@@TriedRefusedProductions Arnab Goswami gets paid more than all female anchors put together.
@kochikame363 Bahut meherbani hai aapki. 1 crore me fir ssamese lead hero mil jayega aapko. Dusra Pramathesh Barua bana dalna fir.
Sad that everyone wants both actors and actresses to be paid equally but not about the quality of content their movies have😅
I agree that both actors and actresses should be equally paid but not so much so that the budget goes into the quality of the film and not into the salary of actors
No one would ask only fans or Instagram why their female creators are paid much more…
You are a great content creator. Kafi time lgta h ki Bollywood kuch nya nhi kr rha hai phir bhi aapke videos hmesha fresh mehsoos hote h
Another example of a well written female character is Rhaenyra Targaryen in HOTD.
It was leapyears ahead of Rings of Power.
Okay, here is the thing. Every single video of gender pay-parity in film industry talking about asking actresses how not to compare with the Khans(males) is jarring because the actresses that started out with Khans for example Madhuri Dixit, Kajol, Rani, Juhi Aishwarya, all being amazing actresses are sidelined as they don't serve the beauty purpose of an actress in a movie. So basically, a woman ages 10 years = a man ages 40 years. Women keep getting replaced and the new generation women can't compare their pay with the so called legends.
What about the screen time of Male Actors and Female Actors in any projects ?? Doesnt that deserves to be looked into.
Do you know that there was this Telugu actress Vijayasanthi whose collections were almost equal to biggest telugu stars. At one point she used to take remuneration equal to Balayya and Chiru. She was called as Lady Amitabh.. In a discussion like this, you should mention about her.
All the second tier stars used to act in her movies as side kicks. Even a comparitively bigger star like Suman or Rajasekhar used to play second fiddle to her.
What’s your opinion on some actors taking the profit share instead of a predetermined fixed amount? I think it’s fair because in that case if the film tanks the actor will get impacted..right now some actors get paid insanely high on the basis of their star value and even if the film doesn’t work it doesn’t affect them.
I think only a few handful of stars have that luxury but it benefits the film so much, especially if they do not take an upfront fees
I don't think its fair. A movie flopping depends on more factors than simply an actor underperforming and alot of those factors can be outside their control.
An actor's job is to act and get paid and they do that. What the movie does afterwards should be the responsibility of the people in charge.
@@Maya_hee yeah so that’s the same point when the film becomes a hit too! It can do well due to several other reasons na then why the male actor is charging a 100 crores saying it’s his ‘star value’, doing that he’s sort of saying I’m definitely going to pull the audience and make the film do well financially on my star value so pay me 100 crores..and his female counterpart is getting paid 10-15 crores or maybe even lesser than that..but then the film still can be a flop if it’s a bad film..and then the producers are also in loss. So it’s not only the disparity it’s also the fact that the amount some actors are paid is ridiculously high!
@@snehajog5 Girl, your whole concept of stardom is wrong...Stardom is how many people you can pull on 1st day, that's it. Afterwards it is the content that will speak. A Rajinikant demanding 115 crores for Jailer or Annathhe is because he guarantees you the initial push. A start of minimum to minimum 100 crore lifetime in it's worst case scenario. Look at Alia's box0office pull. Despite "so called" rave review of Rocky Rani, it is struggling to recover it's budget, imagine the condition on disastrous talk....I challenge Alia to release Sadak 2 on Theatre. Her Real aukaat of stardom will be revealed....can she guarantee even 5 crore opening? Leave aside that, she hadn't had the guts to release Darlings in cinemas owning to "fear of flop". Pseudo feminism ka jhanda pakarna aasan hai, but reality is complicated...
@@Maya_hee Actors get a "premium" bcoz of their presumed capability to fill seats. Akshay, Prabhas, SRK etc. are not paid 100s of crores bcoz their work is worth 100 crores, but bcoz of their brand value & ability to pull audiences.
If the audience is rejecting their films, it means their brand value has diminished, which should reflect in their fees as well.
IMO there should be an upper limit of chargeable fees, beyond which it should depend solely on the money made by the film.
Tweet dekh ke hi pata chal gaya tha ki video aaye ga😂
Ab Tweet nahin X 😛
Which tweet?
Hi Anmol this is Abhigyan here and I like your videos especially on Analysis of Indian cinema and I know you are busy on making on other videos too if you get time then can you make a videos on why we didn't get to see two hero movies or Multistarrer starrer today like there was in 70s-90s movies or why young actors are insecure to share screen with each other
Props to you jammy for voicing your opinion. You were dropping truth bombs throughout the episode.
I just tweeted that Women should be given more opportunities as the sole lead in commercial movies then we can expect the same audience pull from both male and female actors. There are many factors that make a film work. And some people had some serious meltdown.
We don't need this superstars
I think Kangana Ranawat could have been the ambassador of female led successful movies after queen and tanu weds manu returns. But sadly those success went over her head and literally start ruining her image and blacklisted from industry. None of her movies worked since then. Such a waste of talent.
Pay disparity of female leads and male leads, even in masala based movies, can ideally be attributed to screen time. Most of the times, the male lead's screen time is almost double that of a female lead. So you can't expect the male lead to earn, say, 15 cr and the female lead to have the same pay. Ridiculous.
There's also the factor of who grabs more audience to a theatre involved. Pay equality depends on so many things; these are only 2 attributes i happened to mention on the top of my head.
No matter how unfair it may seems, but no one can, and shouldn't guarrantee equality of outcome. The best thing that can be done is guarantee of the equality of opportunity and let the aftermath play out.
YES!!!!
While pay disparity in Bollywood is a concern, it's important to consider various factors that contribute to the differences. Box office draw, popularity, and market demand often play a role in determining an actor's pay. Additionally, some actresses choose roles that prioritize artistic fulfillment over financial gain. The industry is gradually evolving, with more actresses taking on lead roles and producing their own content. Addressing pay disparity requires systemic changes and a shift in audience preferences, rather than oversimplification of the issue
Already knew this was coming from your tweet 😂
Samay was another brilliant movie which starred Sushmita Sen. The plot was creative and Sushmita simply nailed her role. But it is so underrated!
On another note I don't agree with some examples you gave when heroines were paid more than their male colleagues. Many of these female centric movies have less famous or barely known actors. That is why the heroines get more payment than them. And that 'higher' payment is still less than the amount actors are paid. I don't think such films should be used as an example.
People gives gyan on social media but reality is very few people watches a film for female lead in india and there is no any female superstar in india if a female lead movie is working it's only and only because of content if female are given big budget then if film is good then it might recover but if film is average it will be washed out at box office because i said noone watches q film for a female lead but we have seen many times becauss of star power many average film with normal films easily get semi hit or a hit verdict and i am not hating any female actress but as a audience and due to my surrounded people perception
Blaming a men and
Patriarchal society every time doesn't make movie 🎥 super hit every time😂😂😂
Thank you so much for covering this point.
People who scream for equal pay in the industry and outside of it should really evaluate on their stance about this. How many of them are truly willing to go to the theaters and watch a female centric film no matter how badly made it is just to support the female actresses. I think the number will be very less.
And to the people who want to use fancy english words that the west loves to use to make themselves look like the victim, look at what is happening there. They are eliminating women sports due to their liberal agendas by allowing biological men in women sports. India has unique issues and concerns and non of them should be looked through the lens of the west.
One interesting thing to look at is that our TV is female dominant. No matter how cringe it is, most leads are females.
Lmao shut up
How about a romantic movie? The majority of romantic movie audiences are women. Why do romantic films in India have male actors have more screen time?
In a romantic film, male and female actors should have equally important roles with the same screen time. Or the film is told from the point of view of the female character.
@@mbakturi9857 Depends on in what context you are talking about romantic movies. Movies in India almost all of them have a romantic angle. And many men are also fans of these movies. In US rom coms have a majorly female audience. So if you say, you wanna see a movie say Om Shanti Om or Rab ne bana di jodi where people are going to come and see SRK and not his female co stars, the movie is going to work on his name. So he is going to get paid more. Screen time completely depends on the story line.
Now someone might come and say well what about actors who are kind of in the same bracket range, say Bajirao Mastani. The senior most actor in the Trio was Priyanka. But there was no one person shouldering the responsibility of the movie. So all of them getting paid based on the amount of time they were shooting or significance of their roles or even seniority ( Priyanka Chopra being the senior most person) seems fair.
No one and I say no one is being unjust to one sex. These people have managers who are well versed in negotiations when it comes to time and money. If some female actress is accepting a fee and roletime she is getting and she feels it is unjust, she can negotiate. And if she doesn't get what she wants she can walk away from the movie. You cannot accept the injustice, not do anything about it and then crib that something unjust has happen to you.
@@mohanashewalkar8598 the films you mentioned clearly show the problem in Bollywood. Why should the two actresses be making out with actors who are much older than them? Are there no young actors? And why didn't the producer use a female actor who is the same age as SRK ? Isn't it an actress of SRK's age who can act well and display good chemistry with SRK ?
The majority of Bollywood romantic films are told from the point of view of male characters. And male actors have more screen time like Kabir Singh, shiddat, satyaprem Ki katha. In satyaprem Ki katha Kiara advani acted better than kartik aaryan. But Kiara can't ask for the same salary as kartik as she was only a supporting player in the film. While kartik aaryan plays the main character. Correct?. Kiara advani has many hit movies but she can't ask same salary as male actors because she is just a side character in all her movies. Correct. Deepika padukone,Alia Bhatt, Katrina Kaif, Kareena Kapoor they are more senior and have more box office than kartik aaryan. But kartik aaryan earns more salary than them
India's audience and film industry are sexist. For example like luka chuppi film. When luka chuppi was succesfull all credit went to kartik aaryan even though it was a romantic film, female roles were as important as male actor with equal screen time. Then they re-acted in shehzada and it was a flop. Kriti Sanon was blamed for the previous film's flop. She is considered to bring bad luck. Even though it was a male-focused film and the female actor only played supporting characters and appeared in a few scenes
4:00 The Swaddle did a great video on the casting age gaps. Everyone should watch it.
What Amir said is absolutely true!! SRK alone can return a box office collection of more than 1000 crores, Kajol can't !!
Same in cricket I guess, Kohli can fill up a stadium l, Mandhana can't unfortunately !!!
Both SRK and Kajol coming together for a movie would be a different story !!
The day any of the leading ladies can do wonders at the box office all by themselves, by all mean give them 150 crores for a movie !!
ECONOMICS drives everything !!!
The more serious issue is how ageing is considered for male actors versus females. While the male actors are considered to age like fine wine and can do action movies and romance young women even in their 60s, female stars almost are sidelined in their early 40s.
I don't think its the gender, it's always been the story that bought fame to actors which eventually made them stars that bring audience to the theatre. If bahubali had Anushka in the lead role , she would have definitely been enjoying the fame and stardom that Prabhas has today
She wouldn't have because people would not have bothered with the movie since it would have been female led.
Yeah sure, it would have been somewhat successful as it is a good movie but the movie still got alot of its success because of Prabhas and not the other way around.
@@Maya_hee at that point both Anushka and Prabhas had same craze both individually and together. It was the kind of elevation given to Prabhas in the movie that made him a greater star in masses. If Rana would've gotten that role I am sure he would've aced it too
@@Maya_hee absolutely not
Rana wouldn't suit the character because of his features....
Prabhas carried the role with his aura at that time. The reach of men superheroes is always huge
people demand industry supplies..... if we will start watching woman centric movie in theatres producers will make more
Even Everything everywhere all at once, did so well critically and at BO as well.
Looking forward for many new releases where Anmol conducts interviews with them irrespective of the language of the movie, not only is this segment standing out, but he's the guy i want to see interview the filmmakers & producers of that film.
Good luck brother!
Thank you for the kind words!
@@TriedRefusedProductions anyday brother, keep doing what u do best!
Good day👍
Even though they all are public figures, at the end of the day, they are just actors. Why is there is a need to pay such whopping sum to them? 5 cr? 20 cr? I personally feel these people dont deserve that. Some of them may have a good personality. But still their profession isn't particularly any value-adding.
Totally agree 👍
this issue will soon die its death since it now all depends on the trailer and buzz before a film releases. If its worth the time to go to theatre, people will. Doesn't matter male/female or star/newbie.
What production companies need to do is to budget accordingly and be wise when it comes to theatrical vs OTT releases.
The last line is the best answe. Great Anmol
You get what you bring to the table. It's not about men and women being paid more or less. This is how business functions. I feel an actor's remuneration should correlate with how much crowd he/she attracts towards cinema halls.
Bro people just want to watch a good movie, That's the whole point!!
Padmavat and Gangubai are the perfect examples - total opposite is Dhaakad with Kangana
Barbie did less in India because of few reasons,
- It wasn't released in Hindi (where Oppenheimer was in Hindi as well)
- Nolan has big fan following in India
- I feel the story around Barbie and Ken is really not that relatable with the middle class families of India
Bhai humko to chahiye Wonder Woman type banao India mein, fir dekho kaise public aati hain dekhne!
People can argue but at the end it's a business. Producers will put money if they trust that the star will bring him profit.
I think the pay has lot to do with the attendance in theatres.
More female watches movie in theatres will result in more female characters ( including female centric films). This will inturn increase their market and results in higher salary.