Nice workbench Phil. I agree that the bench shouldn't be up off the floor, but feel there should be a four or five inch toe kick to prevent kicking the bench when I'm working up close, even with an overhanging top. I've yet to build myself a bench and am still using my table saw as my bench, but when I do eventually build one, it will have room for my toes.
The kitchen cabinets in the house I grew up in didn't have toe kicks - it was built in the 1920s. I never kicked the cabinets. From my experience, it's a feature that's over rated ... mileage may vary though.
Nice job Phil! You’ve inspired me to build another bench. I recently sold mine when I moved down south. I bought the middle of the road Sjobergs. Big waste of time and money. Worst tool purchase I’ve ever made. The top has warped and twisted in only 4 months and at 1 3/4 inches thick, flattening is would make the top as thick as a potato chip. For anyone reading, do yourself a favor and build your own. Keep up the great work and please pardon my rant.
Paul it's a safe place here. Rant on. This workbench featured a lot of enjoyment and it's what I want. Some folk don't want to make their own bench - that's cool. I like making anything I can.
My brother and I have the 5 foot, 5 year rule. If you can't see a flaw from 5 feet away, it doesn't matter. And in 5 years, you (the builder) will forget it's there.
Ha! Becky is a force of nature. However, I'm very glad to have the bench complete and in my shop. If I would have waited until the right time ... I'd still be waiting.
This is a pretty solid little workbench. While once you figure out how it comes together, it is physically Easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxyFZUPFEey-PuqsPMxqaykBhgA1LWxFHh by yourself. But the diagrams explaining the steps are really pretty bad. I could not get the handle pins in all the way despite multiple attempts, so I just used a screw I had on hand for the 2nd handle. I could not get the first pin in further or pull it back out. You are supposed to hammer it in, but I had no leverage and the handle is plastic and I did not want to risk breaking it. I will get a lot of use out of the bench because of the convenient size and height. It does fold up nicely for storage. They even explain how to fold it so you don't get pinched...that is important!
A few years ago you did a show on using Used jello cups for glueups to hold small amounts of glue in as you worked becuse most guys buy glue by the gallon becuse its cheaper and the jello cups are waste products from food containers you can reuse and if the glue dried in it no big deal just trash it it was free anyway. Ive got a spin on this why let any glue in one get contaminated or dry up some brands of potato chip cans like lays stax fit right over the cup and seal tight enough the water in one isnt drying up im testing 2 of them with water for now. So let's say your doing a big project And need to let stuff sit out a day or 2 well put a lid on it untill your ready to go back. Might even work on stains and finishes or even paint. Needs more testing. And its not going to work on all types of cups. Im using jello cups that had dole jello in them. I dont know if Pringle can lids work. But why spend 12.95 on some plastic container or spoil a gallon of tightbond II When you can use smaller amounts and not dump partly used glue back into your new gallon. You now have a way to store your working product and keep the full gallon clean.
Been hearing about this on the podcast and been waiting to see it! Beautiful work Phil it looks fantastic. I hope you'll do an update in a few months and let us know how you like working on it and whether you've made any additions.
If there is one downside to that machine, the planer-mode DC is it. Sometimes it works ok, other times not as much. Doesn't affect the operation of it - which is exceptional - just the cleanup.
Can You Show How You Would You Take Two Kitchen Base Cabinets And Add A Extra Counter Top under The top As A Pull Out And Let The Top To Drop Down Flat, I Have Thought About Heavy Drawer Slides Set At About One Foot Apart.
I'm using plywood panels. They don't move much with changes in seasonal humidity. So gluing them in adds to the overall strength of the assembly. If these were solid wood panels, then YES I would need to account for the panels to expand across their width as the humidity rises in summer.
The panels are glue to the stile, but the center style will expand pushing against the bottom glue panels. :-/ Was wood movement being considered here?
I tend to over build everything Phil so take my minor criticism with that in mind. Yes the glue will provide a joint stronger than the wood it's built from. But in comparison, any work bench and especially one with hand tool wood working in mind is going to take far more racking stresses and vibration from mallets than anything else were likely to build. If it were me I think I'd add some type of cross dowel mechanical strengthening on each of those loose tenons. It would only add a bit of extra build time, almost no expense and could be done later after the full assembly just as added peace of mind.
I thought about that very detail. I can go back and do it. But between the fit of the tenons and the Titebond 3, I'm satisfied this bench will outlive me.
Thanks. My workshop is a place of creativity and refuge. And I think the items in it should reflect that. The bit is a 1/2" roughing end mill. It comes from www.MSCdirect.com 1/2" Roughing Bit … 328-0859
A woodworking bench that does not have toe holes is NOT the way to build one. Yes debris gets under it. But the opposite is just not good. Many would hurt their toes all the time. IMHO.
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Ive had to use the "im gonna have to ask you to leave " a few times at my shop. glad Im not the only one !
Love the woodsmith shop! Glad you guys have new videos on youtube. I miss the old days of Phil, Don, and Bryan!
Thanks for the comments. Don and Bryan did add a lot to the show. But it's fun to bring new folk on as well.
Nice workbench Phil. I agree that the bench shouldn't be up off the floor, but feel there should be a four or five inch toe kick to prevent kicking the bench when I'm working up close, even with an overhanging top. I've yet to build myself a bench and am still using my table saw as my bench, but when I do eventually build one, it will have room for my toes.
The kitchen cabinets in the house I grew up in didn't have toe kicks - it was built in the 1920s. I never kicked the cabinets. From my experience, it's a feature that's over rated ... mileage may vary though.
Nice job Phil! You’ve inspired me to build another bench. I recently sold mine when I moved down south. I bought the middle of the road Sjobergs. Big waste of time and money. Worst tool purchase I’ve ever made. The top has warped and twisted in only 4 months and at 1 3/4 inches thick, flattening is would make the top as thick as a potato chip. For anyone reading, do yourself a favor and build your own. Keep up the great work and please pardon my rant.
Paul it's a safe place here. Rant on. This workbench featured a lot of enjoyment and it's what I want. Some folk don't want to make their own bench - that's cool. I like making anything I can.
Hmm, I'm wondering if the dust collector was working when you were planning the boards. Great design on the bench.
Liked for “If you look too closely when you come to my shop, I’m gonna ask you to leave”. Awesome
My brother and I have the 5 foot, 5 year rule. If you can't see a flaw from 5 feet away, it doesn't matter. And in 5 years, you (the builder) will forget it's there.
Given my eyesight and that rule, I’ve never had any flaws I my woodworking!
Love the right triangle layout trick!
I take no credit for that. I learned from Mike Peckovich at Fine Woodworking. Since then, I've seen it other places as well.
Shout-out to all the Lefties!
Beautiful looking bench you have built. Looking forward to the series.
I like the way you think if you don't like it don't comment just leave
Awesome build Phil! Thanks for sharing. You make it look so easy, but I know from your podcast that it took some "persuasion" to get it finished.
Ha! Becky is a force of nature. However, I'm very glad to have the bench complete and in my shop. If I would have waited until the right time ... I'd still be waiting.
This is a pretty solid little workbench. While once you figure out how it comes together, it is physically Easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxyFZUPFEey-PuqsPMxqaykBhgA1LWxFHh by yourself. But the diagrams explaining the steps are really pretty bad. I could not get the handle pins in all the way despite multiple attempts, so I just used a screw I had on hand for the 2nd handle. I could not get the first pin in further or pull it back out. You are supposed to hammer it in, but I had no leverage and the handle is plastic and I did not want to risk breaking it. I will get a lot of use out of the bench because of the convenient size and height. It does fold up nicely for storage. They even explain how to fold it so you don't get pinched...that is important!
"If you're looking to close while visiting my shop I'm going to ask you to leave."
A few years ago you did a show on using
Used jello cups for glueups to hold small amounts of glue in as you worked becuse most guys buy glue by the gallon becuse its cheaper and the jello cups are waste products from food containers you can reuse and if the glue dried in it no big deal just trash it it was free anyway. Ive got a spin on this why let any glue in one get contaminated or dry up some brands of potato chip cans like lays stax fit right over the cup and seal tight enough the water in one isnt drying up im testing 2 of them with water for now. So let's say your doing a big project
And need to let stuff sit out a day or 2 well put a lid on it untill your ready to go back. Might even work on stains and finishes or even paint. Needs more testing. And its not going to work on all types of cups. Im using jello cups that had dole jello in them.
I dont know if Pringle can lids work.
But why spend 12.95 on some plastic container or spoil a gallon of tightbond II
When you can use smaller amounts and not dump partly used glue back into your new gallon. You now have a way to store your working product and keep the full gallon clean.
Great idea! I might have try out some of those containers and lids too. 👍
Nice bench, I would have built a toe kick into the bench to accommodate my big feet 😂
The kitchen cabinets in the house I grew up in (1925) ran right to the floor with no toe kick. Never noticed it being an issue.
Been hearing about this on the podcast and been waiting to see it!
Beautiful work Phil it looks fantastic. I hope you'll do an update in a few months and let us know how you like working on it and whether you've made any additions.
Will do. Thanks for the compliments.
thanks
Wow the dust collection looks abysmal in planer mode of your jointer-planer... is that normal or did you not have the DC on?
If there is one downside to that machine, the planer-mode DC is it. Sometimes it works ok, other times not as much. Doesn't affect the operation of it - which is exceptional - just the cleanup.
Can You Show How You Would You Take Two Kitchen Base Cabinets And Add A Extra Counter Top under The top As A Pull Out And Let The Top To Drop Down Flat, I Have Thought About Heavy Drawer Slides Set At About One Foot Apart.
Im curious why you chose to glue the panels in rather than let them float. Wouldn't letting them float allow for typical wood expansion/contraction?
I'm using plywood panels. They don't move much with changes in seasonal humidity. So gluing them in adds to the overall strength of the assembly. If these were solid wood panels, then YES I would need to account for the panels to expand across their width as the humidity rises in summer.
The panels are glue to the stile, but the center style will expand pushing against the bottom glue panels. :-/ Was wood movement being considered here?
Not sure what you're referring to here. I'm using plywood panels, so there's almost no wood movement there.
I tend to over build everything Phil so take my minor criticism with that in mind. Yes the glue will provide a joint stronger than the wood it's built from. But in comparison, any work bench and especially one with hand tool wood working in mind is going to take far more racking stresses and vibration from mallets than anything else were likely to build. If it were me I think I'd add some type of cross dowel mechanical strengthening on each of those loose tenons. It would only add a bit of extra build time, almost no expense and could be done later after the full assembly just as added peace of mind.
I thought about that very detail. I can go back and do it. But between the fit of the tenons and the Titebond 3, I'm satisfied this bench will outlive me.
Oh my gosh! Where can I purchase that router bit?
By the way, the completed bench looks almost too pretty to actually use for its intended purpose.
Thanks. My workshop is a place of creativity and refuge. And I think the items in it should reflect that. The bit is a 1/2" roughing end mill. It comes from www.MSCdirect.com 1/2" Roughing Bit … 328-0859
What are the dimensions of the table top? Thanks
I looked to closely and was escorted off the property, I didn't know it was wife's room. 🤷🏻♂️
A woodworking bench that does not have toe holes is NOT the way to build one. Yes debris gets under it. But the opposite is just not good. Many would hurt their toes all the time. IMHO.
There is nothing "Shaker" about your workbench.