Me: *checks various second hand and used gear sites* Also me: *Sees barely any listings for 40 series cards and those that do want near full retail value* Me again: *goes back to ignoring gpu's till next gen*
yup, picking up a used 4080/super would've been good. But none of them are anywhere near a panic selling prices, so just waiting to see if amd's card isnt complete crap and badly priced. If not yeah my 30 series card is going to be run into the ground.
Nvidia has stopped producing the 4xxx series since november I thnk it was. So the stock will dry out. But local shops in Norway have increased prices of the 4090 etc. Used prices have also increased. But I think maybe we will see 5080 perform about 10% better vs 4080 Super (without fake frames), so with less VRAM than 4090, I think 5080 may be a bit of a disappointment due to pricing and the fact that 4090 may be a better card for productivity, AI and real gaming without fake frames. Of course one can say they like fake frames, but I dont see the reason to use fake frames on the highend cards. You will get a theoretical FPS boost, but increase the input lag a lot! Also more artifacts. I can see the tech beeing usefull for laptops etc where you cant afford to have a super high power consumption due to battery, cooler constraint etc.
I jumped on TiSuper. Sweet spot. Seems like with 50 series (other than the framegen made for 240hz monitors) the performance of my GPU may have dropped to about $700 from $800. What an insane uplift to price performance lol
@@OlavAlexanderMjeldeI would use the 2x frame Gen but the new cyberpunk update makes the game lock to 60 in my vrr 144hz monitor so I turned it off until that is resolved. I enjoy the smoothing effect and really makes pathtracing viable on 4k with my GPU. The new transformer models so very impressive for the few hours I played last night. It is probably the biggest update I have seen to dlss... Idk why Nvidia didn't hold it to 50 series lol can we actually use the words Generous Jensen? 😂😂😂
@ yeah most cards I see on the used markets (unless they’re under 12gb vram) are just msrp prices, higher or slightly below even though some of them are 1-2 years old. The funniest card is the 3090 which basically performs the same as a 3080 12gb yet people demand rtx 4070ti super prices which is absolutely bonkers. They just paid too much in the mining times
@@TkoddaLee Wll,buy a 4080 super,then wait until crazy stupid shit is over and theeen buy 5080,yeah you have to pay twice,4080 and 5080 but is good for me knowing that i have 3060 12gb.
I cannot for the life of me understand people who are that ready to throw away money to upgrade only last gen hardware. The money spent must be crazy. For marginal gains too.
People are posting their 4090's here in Sydney for 3k or more but honestly I am going to put mine up for 2k if I can get a 5090, as I think this is a more realistic price.
@@MaTtRoSiTyyou’re a rare, honourable, gem sir after seeing the 5090 semi flop i’m considering a used 4090 and selling my 4080 for a grand but used prices are more than original retail lol
@@MaTtRoSiTy in Norway they are beeing sold around 19.000 NOK ( 2638 AUD ). If I were to list mine I think I would put it out at ~2100 AUD / 15.000 NOK. The 5090 FE and 5090 TUF from Asus seems to be the cheapest ones at first, at 28500 NOK ( 4025 AUD ). I think the 5080 might disappoint, I imagine it will perform maybe 5-10% better in rasterization vs 4080 Super. So the 5080 at rasterization might be worse than 4090, then also the 5080 has less VRAM so I imagine it most likely also will be worse for AI. But of course we will see, when 5080 drops.
Yeah your lowly 3060 is heaven on earth. LOL. A 4090 is at least 3 times faster, how do you even compare these. Besides, a couple a years from now your 3060 will be completely obsolete.
I grabbed a 4070Ti Super for a friends new build just over a week ago. He was using a loaner card from me on a fantastic all new parts system. He wanted to get 50 series and just plug and play. Huge selling point for the older gen is they basically just plug and play. Every new launch and you just bought your way into Beta 101.
Same over here in the old world. People are kinda bonkers. Or maybe we're only seeing those muppets asking insane prices and the "good deals" are sniped by bots instantly? Who knows :(
Why are people panic selling 4000's? - All we've been hearing about is how lack-lustre the 5000 series are with their 'fake frames' and low percentage increases over the 4000 series.
They aren't. He's just full of sh1t clickbait title. The few folks selling 4080's and 90's that I saw removed their listings once 5090 reviews hit, LMAO. Now I see 4 systems being sold with RTX 4080 / 4080S and that's it.
Does nobody learn from past mistakes anymore?! I vividly remember when people sold their RTX2000 cards for cheap in 2020 and had to watch Scalpers buy all of the few new 30 series cards.
@ dosent matter 9800x3d was unavaailable for months and now and then u get in stock last time i saw it was 600 msrp is 480 50 series will be sold out for the 1st few months better get in line or have ur bots ready
I think I saw a lot more cards (4090 and 4080 7900xtx ) before the embargo was lifted for reviews. Now people realized that a 15 to 20 percent uplift at 4k doesn't warrant a 2 thousand dollar upgrade.
My 3080 and 7900 GRE play everything I want at a resolution, quality and performance level I'm happy with. Why the heck would I splash out 5080/5090 money just as the economy is tanking?
@@DraftySatyr I have a 7900xtx at a good price and it does everything I want too. I will not be buying a GPU for a long time! It's crazy that my whole PC I built high-end costs less than a single GPU Crazy times
@holland1 there hasn't been many cards in the us since around the time of the 9800x3d release date bc that's when I built my computer and I couldn't find a 4090 at or under marp
wouldn't really be 2 thousand dollars tho. most people sell their cards. it would be better if nvidia or any company let you just trade in like a phone. they actually did use to do that too. but now we just have to sell our cards. which is fine tbh. most people don't have multiple pcs or the need for multiple pcs. so they sell their old used pcs and use the left over for the next. not many people are just straight up buying new parts without selling their old parts for some cash to offset the price.
@s7r49 you know what's crazy? I bought a 4090 from Newegg 3 days after it officially released just fine. it was very strange cause I didn't know if I was being scammed. I got mine for 1560$. everyone is saying it's 2k and being scalped for 3k and all this and that and I personally never had that issue. 😂I'm so dead serious. and I'm in the US.
When I need to kill the urge to splurge on a new card, I disconnect my 4K monitor and connect my old 1080p monitor. That usually kills the urge and makes me wait for prices to go down to sane levels.
If you are using a 20 series or older GPU I could see going with the 5000 series. Or perhaps an entry level 3000 series the 5000 series may make sense, but the upgrade really isn't there with DLSS 4 coming to all RTX cards. My 4070 is going to last until it wont work anymore. I dont get people who are into the new shiny thing.
You mean the same new shiny 4000 series thing you bought back when? Funny how after you make the purchase it's now stupid for others to do so and get the new shiny thing.
I literally listen to the terran theme when I go out sometimes, this time I opened this video and I thought that because of some bug my music was overlapping with the video 😂
Don't forget about those tons of non-working 4090 / 4090D "without chip and ram" sold in bulk everywhere! I know you know about those. Just a reminder ;) Take care. Thanks for sharing.
@@CockpitCrusher I remember some story out of China that they were tearing off the shrouds and using the internals for some application. I just can't remember what, maybe AI data centers? I only remember it being so wasteful.
@@vivisimonvi I'm just saying isn't the pci attached to the central gpu which is attached to the heat sink. Basically the internals are also providing most of the external structure so idk how you could remove them unless you're just extracting the central gpu and the memory chips maybe
I checked US markets, no signs of panic or better deals here Plus, it would be haphazard to sell yours before you get a 50 series, not knowing for certain when you can get one They may be as easy to get as 40 series? Bit coin mining is dead so GPUs shouldn't be that difficult to obtain
That’s because the people in USA are busy dealing with a messy leader, and their huge losses of money from the leader meme coins; they don’t have extra money for upgrade to the RTX 5000.
@@tagodain oh yeah we're all shivering in our boots and tearing our hair out, THAT'S why we're not buying the new GPU series that was too afraid to show us it's raw raster performance gains.
US are little smarter than our cousins from down under. that's saying a lot considering our presidents from the past 2 decades😂 but yea it seems to literally only be an Australia thing. Australians don't really game as much as the rest of the world either so that honestly helps a lot with the prices
I would seriously avoid Gigabyte GPUs. I cruise Newegg quite a bit, and I see a ton of refurbished Gigabyte GPUs on there, which means they break a lot. I realize that refurbs can also be trade-ins that have been cleaned up and not repaired, but when there are quite a few of the exact same model GPU on Newegg as a refurbished, then that points to a problem
Last 3 gens I had a 2080/3080 gigabyte auros master, and a 4080 gigabyte aero oc. All great with zero issues. I wouldn6 even consider thinking they're any faultier than any other brand
I mean right now i see a few 4070/4070 super fe cards selling for $600 used. Selling one and buying a 5070 fe or upgrading to a 5080 fe is not bad at all.
All these years watching your videos Bryan, I still love seeing your passion for this community and industry. I love the deal hunting and your take on things as a whole about GPUs. Stay frosty bro and keep making that tech YES goodness!
I bought a new 4080 super around msrp a few months ago and been enjoying it, the 5000 series doesnt look promising enough for me to want to dump it. I'm still holding out hope for a 5080 super/ti/whatever with 24gb using the new 3gb memory modules. Id get that for the extra vram but buying another 16gb card seems pointless even if it has some uplift in performance (not much by the look of things).
*There is not a SINGLE 4070 or 4080 or 4090 for sale second hand here in New Zealand* 4070TiS is the best value pound for pound card in years, anyone that 'panic sold' it to buy an overpriced 5080 POS is going to be very sad when they actually play a game.
Panic selling 4000 series cards that are pretty much as fast at the same power draw as the 5000 series is. The 5000 series is not much better then a refresh. :) AMD UDNA and 6000 series in 2026-2027 will be a node shrink and something to get excited over
I would rather buy a 4090 new right now than a 5090. At MSRP, it's a better value. A 24 gig 5080 at 1200 or 1400 would completely kill the 5090...like imagine any of these 5000 series cards with higher vram and then add 200 bucks to msrp, then tell me 5090 isn't a terrible value proposition. Who would buy 5090 if there was a 24g or 32g 5080, even if it was 1400 msrp? No one.
I don't get it though. Ngreedia will artificially shorten the supply of 50X0 cards/chips for sure. They make WAY more money in the AI bracket. The gaming cards are rather a "showcase" of sorts i reckon.
3080ti is still a decent card. Gave one to a friend with a fried 4090. He had the 4090 replaced for a while and is not putting it back in because "everything works alright" ;)
@@peterpain6625 yup, solid card for sure. Had plans to get a 5080 but I think the 3080 ti will do just fine for another year or 2 for me. I only play bfv anyway lol.
the 50 gen doesn't look like it's worth going through the hassle of selling the old stuff, when i switched to 4k because i planned to upgrade i thought 4090 will stink in 4k but it's actually really good already, if you think about it it's kinda like a 5080ti now 20-30% more is just not worth that much money. also i would never be able to watercool a 5090, 4090 already made me reconsider if i wanted to do it because the price is just so ridiculous.
it's 20-30 percent in certain scenarios. I highly doubt the overall performance uplift is anything above 10-13% this generation. I highly believe this will be the worse launch nvidia has ever experienced. they didn't proudly show any true raw rasterization comparisons and the only other thing that they said about the 5090 is mfg multi frame gen and that it has 32gbs of ram now. but its not event gddr7x it's just gddr7. nvidia has for generations always launched their gpus with suped up gddrx modules. this Is the first time they haven't. and it's built on the exact same platform the 40 series was launched on. its highly concerning.
Anyone selling their 4000 series cards expecting to get a 5000 series is an idiot. These idiots clearly have never been through a GPU launch. The 5090 is going to be absolutely scarce.
Even more so now that Nvidia redesigned their card for enterprise solutions. They did not spend all that money for gamers benefit. There is a huge market these days that is just below enterprise level hardware. And that card will meet it very nicely. Gamers don't need to be able to fit multiple GPU's like AI etc does.
If you want get a 5090 through Best Buy good luck, with the 40 series launch, I would have it in my cart then it would say sold out after I would put my credit card number in. One time I thought I had it bought then I would get a email, sorry not in stock.
If your financial situation is so bad that you have to sell your current card before you can afford a new one, you shouldn't even be thinking about the 50 series.
@ Agreed. I now think that anyone who sold their 4090 now will likely get the worst value. Those that can somehow acquire a 5090 and still have their 4090 will likely get an insane amount for their 4090
Yeah i am seeing the odd ball 4090 for around 1k. But typically close to 1500+. Basically if you find a nonmined card for 1k you should jump on it. Few i saw on ebay for 1k are suspicious for various reasons though...from shipping from China to someone with multiple indicating it was a mining card or workhorse
Except for one hot stuff build I did with X58 in 2008 (and a followup slightly lesser version of it in 2009 because Amazon double shipped half the order) I have always been a few generations behind on hardware.
I bought a used to mine 3090 a few years ago for 400 u$d, since then I was waiting to make the jump to a 5090, but now that I've seen the benchs and the price, I think i'll wait for the 6000 series, I don't think GTA VI will come out to PC until late 2026 or 2027, and can't think of other game that pushes tech and my interest to change my current PC.
I mean, I'll gladly decide to sell my 4080 if a 5080 is worth grabbing. But this time around, it's not looking like it. 15% performance increase is depressing.
I literally just built an AMD rig using that same case you got at the first stop. That is the Darkrock EC2 ATX case. They are kind of cheaply built but has plenty of room. Three 120MM fans in front but the bottom fan sinks below the motherboard plate. Two 120MM fans on top and one in the rear. Lots of room in the back for cable management but the removable HDD tray in the PSU compartment gets in the way of your wires if you use it. It's removable if you install a larger PSU but then you have no place to mount a HDD. I paid $49.00 for it here in the US. Love the easy open and removable glass side panel though.
Nvidia made a naming mistake, the 5090 is a disguised 4090 ti stock that they have excess in stock , just re badge the card and rename it, TADAH!!! Gouge people for scalper prices, Win for them.
But it’s got an avg of 25-35% increase gen over gen. What TI models have had that kind of a jump over their base? The 2080ti definitely wasn’t 35% stronger than a 2080 on avg nor was a 3090ti over a 3090.
@@Safetytrousers that’s what I’m getting at in regards to what OP said. Raw performance increase is about 25% on avg so I can’t see this being a 4090ti. I think people are just taking there frustration from the price and then trying to justify it through confusing comments z
@ sounds like you missed out 2yrs ago. 4090 suprim liquid x was 3500 AUD 5090FE is 4g an liquid x version will be 6000 AUD. Double the size and money for 30%. I bought one on afterpay an Im poor an on Centrelink. 90series GPU are gold they hold value, I would sell it for 3,300 but i aint falling for 50series scam
@ well im laughing, scams are always a thing, dont miss the train next time, an wait 3months an it will be a different story or you'll be stuck because everyone will notice 5070ti will be the best for $$ just use lossless or gefore now if you dont pirate
I love my 4080 super and I won’t be getting rid of it any time soon. It does EVERYTHING I need it to do. I don’t play on 4K and I don’t play any 4K games.
Guys.. if y'all haven't tried the new Transformer Model.. it is absolutely obvious. It seems that the edge detection is far better. In movement and even when still, it holds more definition instead of fizzling with pixelation. From first sight it was very obvious that the way the upscaling works is a completely different logic. Insane upgrade imo.
That is a sign of how unwilling people are to upgrade, and that they feel they don't have enough money to buy a 5090. The 5090 won't sell through...I can't wait until the price cuts. Just think about it....used afterc2 years and out of warranty MUST be sold used below MSRP, everyone knows this, but resellers aren't pricing fair because if they don't sell at that price, the seller will simply not upgrade. Its just people hoping for some idiot to buy who doesn't exist...so yeah, if I can sell my 4090 at or above msrp, sure, I'll buy a 5090, but no one is going to buy it....
uncle brian, how are you doing ? i hope your are good & well, also in this new year i hope you will be blessed with alot of fortune and health! now i need to catch up to your videos ahahaha, because i've been away since new year eve! cheers, from your long time viewer since japan day before you moving into aus~
The messed up part is alot of the new games COD-BO6 for example FSR3 and DLSS were just broken and so people were just running raw raster so if you were expecting or relying on those features to make FPS you would be disappointed. Deltaforce apparently having similar performance issues with FSR2/DLSS. That said MW3 with FSR3 and even Fluidmotion frames ran great but people need to keep in mind the only thing you can seemingly rely on is raw Raster FPS.
Decided to check your statement out, and well, kinda funny: The first decently priced and proper looking 4080 Super FE I found on ebay (Germany) is sold by some person who is into SFF PCs. Shows the "seldom used" GPU inside the Ncase M2 "cheese grater" xD
got a 6 month old gigabyte windforce oc 4070 for about US$390. it has warranty and everything and is around the performance I wanted to be at. There are deals out there but they are rare.
Not in Europe, specifically Slovakia. I checked second hand listings locally and haven't seen any, except people putting up ads they'll buy a RTX 40 series GPUs instead. One that I saw that made me chuckle is an ad for someone buying a RTX 4090 for 800€ w/ warranty, which I doubt anyone is crazy enough to undervalue it by that much, especially with actual warranty.
Really? I've noticed prices have gone up in the US market over these last few months, especially used. I was lucky to find my 4080 for $800 back in August
I thought those fire selling 2080ti cards with Ampere launching were pretty clueless , but to see 4080s being fire sold with only slightly better hardware around the corner takes it to a whole new level 😂 I say this as someone who has owned both of those cards as well and my 4080 Super serves me well.
@@peterpain6625It's 2025, who in their right mind plays at 1440p while 4K DLSS Performance exists? At least you're not as clueless as Asmongold. That dude is talking about getting a 5090 but still playing on 1440p because 4K is "probably not worth it yet" Meanwhile all benchmarks I see is the gap between the 4090 and 5090 at 4K being the biggest, while below that it's a waste of money.
@@peterpain6625 I'm quite happy using my 4080 Super with a 4k144 display :) - might not max it out most of the time but it does well. I reckon it's going to be good at that for at least another 3-4 years , the 5080 isn't much better
@789uio6y I've seen a leak from Blender suggesting even less than that .Given that I run my 4080 Super at 360W and 2.9Ghz core/25.6Gbps memory I'm going to be very interested to see what the benchmarks will be for it 😂
Selling a system on Wednesday myself. Not as high end more of a mid end system. 3700 x, 6600 xt, 850w ps, 16gb 3600ram, 2tb 7200rpm nvme, msi pro wifi mobo, CoolerMaster case. $1000 cnd. Worth more but for what I spent I am still getting a small return.
In the EU, used 40-series are only slightly less than brand new, usually more. You can get a brand new 4080S from ComputerUniverse in EU for or slightly below MSRP (1,099 Euro). I got one for 1079 last week. 5080 MSRP is about 1,200 (if you are very lucky), so if you can't get a 5080, a new 4080S will probably give you 90%+ of the performance.
Owner of a 4070Ti (non super) here, was considering upgrading to a 5080, as I'm considering an upgrade to a 4k screen - but after the reviews (& price estimations) - yeah...let's see how the 6000 series (or anyone else that might be competitive in 2 years) looks. 🤷♂ Also, the 4000 series only shows that it makes sense to not buy at launch, but wait & see how the "MLU" refresh looks like.
Across the tech media, the focus is on "what delivers the maximum performance" and very little on "What delivers sufficient performance". Users would do well to those few who focus on the latter!
I just did a platform upgraded because went from the G9 ultra wide to triple g5 screens for my SIM racing setup and still wanted to play 1440 but didn't want to wait The end of January with there being no 9800 x3ds available so I end up getting a bundle deal for a new ryzen 9 7950 x3d and x670 motherboard for 750$ and then got a brand new Zotec 4080 super for $950 and then sold my 5800x3d motherboard and ram to my friend and had him get the rest of the the parts for me to build him a PC for his new Sim rig and I'm completely happy
Instead of looking for an upgrade for my 7900XTX, I downgraded my monitor resolution from an ultrawide to 1440p. BUT also upgraded to OLED. Better image, less pixels and only cost me about 200 euro. (Sold the old monitor, and bought the new one with a amazing deal, new from the shop at 60% of normal price) That gpu is going to last me for a long while.
You got a great deal when you purchased that RTX 3080 for 450$ here in Norway it costs the equivalent of 700 for the cheaper versions and 800 for the expensive models. Sold my 4090 at the equivalent of 2100 au$ and I think I could have earned roughly 300 bucks more with some patience but I wanted the money in my pocket before the launch of the 5090. The 5090 FE launches here at the equivalent of 4070au$ but it will get sold out and the prices we actually have to pay for most of the AIB models is likely atleast 300 - 500 bucks more.
I upgraded my system this past holiday season. R7 9800x3d and an asus tuff gaming 4080 sup oc. I told myself If the 5080 is that much better over the 4080 then ill return and upgrade. No issue. As of typing this im still technically withing the return period. The thing is, I love the performance of my system so much i dont even wanna go through the hassle of taking out the graphics card. I think im comfortable with this and will probably wait for a 5080 super or something equivalent. Might even wait for next gen.
I just saw the dlss 4 update on cyberpunk and I have to say it looks insanely good even with my 3080 10g. Ultra performance looks like quality/balance to me from the previous version. Please make a video on this.
Gigabyte's 4080 Super is super cool too, it stays in the 50s C at full usage LOL several people including myself couldn't believe it since it's a 320W card. Yes, it's that 4nm process that's super efficient and cool, just like the 9000 Ryzens.
I have a new EVGA 3080Ti and a new ASUS TUF 4090 waiting on new system builds. I've considered selling the GPUs to help with a 5090 LC, but I'd still have to sell my truck in order to buy a complete new system. I'll likely wait a few generations. Best to all.
10:00 - Dang, Bryan slides into a Miami Vice chase. :D No sign of a significant panic selloff in the UK yet. There are a few 4000 series cards on ebay, but the bidding is already kinda nuts.
No panic here, hanging on to my 4090. I want to see if their are even going to be any 50 series in stock after one minute it releases. The third party 50 series cards are going to be way over $2000 dollars plus their might be tariffs added to the cost. I don't want to get stuck with my old 2080ti if I would sell my 4090.
With decent air flow both CPU and GPU can easily last well over 15 years, eg. my 2012 i7 2600k + 7970 GHz lasted till 2024, still in running condition... and people ditch them way before that...
I will upgrade when when a graphics card can give me (1) a bigger increase in real frames, (2) more frames per dollar, and (3) more frames per watt. In my opinion, frame generation is best if you are already getting 60+ real frames to begin with and a high refresh rate monitor.
$800 for a 4080 and $700 for a 4070TiS here in California is what seems to be the market rate. I've got my fingers crossed I can find a 4070TiS for $650 or a 4080 for $750 or 4080S for $800 before the 5090 launches and we get some shortages.
Don't buy a 5000 series, NOT the flagship models anyway. You're going to pay the cost of an arm and leg to play games? And another thing, we're talking about ONE component here. I would just wait for a good deal on a used 3090 or 4000 card. Don't let these manufacturers trick you into paying 100% more for 10-15% fps gains. I have an EVGA 3090 and I'm pretty much done with building PCs for the next 8 years or so.
Yet you paid the arm and leg for a 90 series card that isn't needed nor offers much for gamers. 70 series cards the top slot for normal gaming at full settings anything higher is pure bragging rights for crap they can't even fully see (99% of 80 and 90 series users don't have a display capable of showing 300+ fps) Basically they bought a governed corvette that only hits 60mph but still paid full sticker price for the one that does 250+ mph.
Me: *checks various second hand and used gear sites*
Also me: *Sees barely any listings for 40 series cards and those that do want near full retail value*
Me again: *goes back to ignoring gpu's till next gen*
yup, picking up a used 4080/super would've been good. But none of them are anywhere near a panic selling prices, so just waiting to see if amd's card isnt complete crap and badly priced. If not yeah my 30 series card is going to be run into the ground.
Nvidia has stopped producing the 4xxx series since november I thnk it was. So the stock will dry out. But local shops in Norway have increased prices of the 4090 etc. Used prices have also increased.
But I think maybe we will see 5080 perform about 10% better vs 4080 Super (without fake frames), so with less VRAM than 4090, I think 5080 may be a bit of a disappointment due to pricing and the fact that 4090 may be a better card for productivity, AI and real gaming without fake frames.
Of course one can say they like fake frames, but I dont see the reason to use fake frames on the highend cards. You will get a theoretical FPS boost, but increase the input lag a lot! Also more artifacts.
I can see the tech beeing usefull for laptops etc where you cant afford to have a super high power consumption due to battery, cooler constraint etc.
I jumped on TiSuper. Sweet spot. Seems like with 50 series (other than the framegen made for 240hz monitors) the performance of my GPU may have dropped to about $700 from $800. What an insane uplift to price performance lol
@@OlavAlexanderMjeldeI would use the 2x frame Gen but the new cyberpunk update makes the game lock to 60 in my vrr 144hz monitor so I turned it off until that is resolved. I enjoy the smoothing effect and really makes pathtracing viable on 4k with my GPU. The new transformer models so very impressive for the few hours I played last night. It is probably the biggest update I have seen to dlss... Idk why Nvidia didn't hold it to 50 series lol can we actually use the words Generous Jensen? 😂😂😂
The title of this video is literally a lie. The prices both store price new stock and 2nd had has gone up over the last 6 weeks
Well not in Germany, people here seem to think their gpu is worth more after being used
No Nvidia stop production of the 40 series card and the new 5080 and 5090 stock will be limited production so price will be crazy this year
Same problem here in the US. The people are trying to get exactly what they paid for their used GPU's or maybe 10.00-20.00 less. Quite Crazy IMO.
@ yeah most cards I see on the used markets (unless they’re under 12gb vram) are just msrp prices, higher or slightly below even though some of them are 1-2 years old. The funniest card is the 3090 which basically performs the same as a 3080 12gb yet people demand rtx 4070ti super prices which is absolutely bonkers. They just paid too much in the mining times
@@TkoddaLee Wll,buy a 4080 super,then wait until crazy stupid shit is over and theeen buy 5080,yeah you have to pay twice,4080 and 5080 but is good for me knowing that i have 3060 12gb.
Just dont buy them at this price, they will go down eventually, sellers have no other choice then
I cannot for the life of me understand people who are that ready to throw away money to upgrade only last gen hardware. The money spent must be crazy. For marginal gains too.
if you're a comp gamer every frame counts. and a 30-35% improvement from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty nice bump.
@@WickedRed1WR how much did jensen insert himself into you for this brain fart comment?
@WickedRed1WR is that really worth $2000 a year?
@@AbbasDalal1000 Skin Jacket getting upgrades xDD
@@MarcoGPUtuber Some people have more money that the one they really deserve.
not in my local market.
On eBay in the US, almost all RTX 4080/Super are over MSRP...
yes, it makes a lot sense to pay more for used GPU...
@@viktorianas cuz those are already tested and are veterans in the art of gaming!
Some guy posted an RTX 4080S for a week at 950 AUD and after yesterday reviews, the ad was deleted lol
People are posting their 4090's here in Sydney for 3k or more but honestly I am going to put mine up for 2k if I can get a 5090, as I think this is a more realistic price.
@@MaTtRoSiTythat’s a terrible idea
@@MaTtRoSiTyyou’re a rare, honourable, gem sir
after seeing the 5090 semi flop i’m considering a used 4090 and selling my 4080 for a grand but used prices are more than original retail lol
@@MaTtRoSiTy in Norway they are beeing sold around 19.000 NOK ( 2638 AUD ).
If I were to list mine I think I would put it out at ~2100 AUD / 15.000 NOK.
The 5090 FE and 5090 TUF from Asus seems to be the cheapest ones at first, at 28500 NOK ( 4025 AUD ).
I think the 5080 might disappoint, I imagine it will perform maybe 5-10% better in rasterization vs 4080 Super.
So the 5080 at rasterization might be worse than 4090, then also the 5080 has less VRAM so I imagine it most likely also will be worse for AI.
But of course we will see, when 5080 drops.
Pity. Sounds like a steal. Over here in the old world people are still asking €500+ for used 4070 NON super ;)
Doesn't it feel weird being upside down in Australia?
when you've been upside down your entire life, the others are the ones who are upside down
Tfw my ground-harness breaks and I fall into the sun
no cause its own continent. An doesn't have massive pandemics like the rest of the world
jokes getting old dude heard it all before. find another joke LOL
@@GODLIKEZ490maybe for you, I chuckled
my 4 year old 3060 still runs everything i want very well at medium/high 1440p. Won't be upgrading for a couple more years.
And hardware upscaling at quality still looks good on a 1440p monitor.
Exact same man the 3060 12gb is a low-key beast
Try Endzone 2... my 3060Ti at 97percent and i got there just 8 houses.....its just a Tutorial !!!!
5800x3d & 3060TI owner, I'm finally going to upgrade in a few months when cards are available at retail prices.
Yeah your lowly 3060 is heaven on earth. LOL.
A 4090 is at least 3 times faster, how do you even compare these.
Besides, a couple a years from now your 3060 will be completely obsolete.
I grabbed a 4070Ti Super for a friends new build just over a week ago. He was using a loaner card from me on a fantastic all new parts system. He wanted to get 50 series and just plug and play. Huge selling point for the older gen is they basically just plug and play. Every new launch and you just bought your way into Beta 101.
In Europe 40 series are even more expensive than MSRP. 3080s you can get for around 400USD. I'm in Poland
MSRP is much higher in european countries, RTX 5070 is 2849PLN (about $710) in Poland. Usually it's MSRP + VAT + $30
Just got used 3070 from allegro for 1250 pln. Most games run 4k +60 fps with high settings. Even better with DLLS. Great deal honestly.
@@MattWey123 sell it and get a 3080 for 250 PLN more - it’s 25% more performance
but u can get brand new 7800xt with warranty for like 500usd in EU, it has 3090 performance
@@PwopYT3811 In the UK the msrp for all the Fe 50 series is less than the dollar amount (VAT included)
Maybe in Australia but here in the US in the Ozarks 40 series used are MSRP
Same over here in the old world. People are kinda bonkers. Or maybe we're only seeing those muppets asking insane prices and the "good deals" are sniped by bots instantly? Who knows :(
Who even buys these when new cards are at the same price that's what I don't get.
In Germany used cards seem to be straight up more expensive than new, somehow.
Yeah USA prices are not that great in the used market either, MSRP or higher.
Yeah I stopped watching that show, it got really stupid
Why are people panic selling 4000's? - All we've been hearing about is how lack-lustre the 5000 series are with their 'fake frames' and low percentage increases over the 4000 series.
They aren't. He's just full of sh1t clickbait title. The few folks selling 4080's and 90's that I saw removed their listings once 5090 reviews hit, LMAO. Now I see 4 systems being sold with RTX 4080 / 4080S and that's it.
@@frantavopicka5259 Lol, thanks! :)
If someone wants to buy my 4090 for $1,500 I'm not going to complain, then I can take another $500 and buy a 5090 with it.
@@jamesm568 you know it costs 2000 USD not AUD it will cost 4000 dollars here lmao
@ Ouch! - Better move to Trump country, lol
Does nobody learn from past mistakes anymore?! I vividly remember when people sold their RTX2000 cards for cheap in 2020 and had to watch Scalpers buy all of the few new 30 series cards.
i think some of these folks are in a bad financial situaution
We’re not in a pandemic anymore, mate.
@ dosent matter 9800x3d was unavaailable for months and now and then u get in stock last time i saw it was 600 msrp is 480 50 series will be sold out for the 1st few months better get in line or have ur bots ready
I think that was also when the latest Crypto boom had started, so no gamer could get any new cards.
@@ELpeaceonearth9800x3d are plentiful at microcenter got one at msrp not too hard to get if you’re willing to drive
I think I saw a lot more cards (4090 and 4080 7900xtx ) before the embargo was lifted for reviews. Now people realized that a 15 to 20 percent uplift at 4k doesn't warrant a 2 thousand dollar upgrade.
My 3080 and 7900 GRE play everything I want at a resolution, quality and performance level I'm happy with. Why the heck would I splash out 5080/5090 money just as the economy is tanking?
@@DraftySatyr I have a 7900xtx at a good price and it does everything I want too. I will not be buying a GPU for a long time! It's crazy that my whole PC I built high-end costs less than a single GPU Crazy times
@holland1 there hasn't been many cards in the us since around the time of the 9800x3d release date bc that's when I built my computer and I couldn't find a 4090 at or under marp
wouldn't really be 2 thousand dollars tho. most people sell their cards. it would be better if nvidia or any company let you just trade in like a phone. they actually did use to do that too. but now we just have to sell our cards. which is fine tbh. most people don't have multiple pcs or the need for multiple pcs. so they sell their old used pcs and use the left over for the next. not many people are just straight up buying new parts without selling their old parts for some cash to offset the price.
@s7r49 you know what's crazy? I bought a 4090 from Newegg 3 days after it officially released just fine. it was very strange cause I didn't know if I was being scammed. I got mine for 1560$. everyone is saying it's 2k and being scalped for 3k and all this and that and I personally never had that issue. 😂I'm so dead serious. and I'm in the US.
When I need to kill the urge to splurge on a new card, I disconnect my 4K monitor and connect my old 1080p monitor. That usually kills the urge and makes me wait for prices to go down to sane levels.
Someone on eBay Australia sold their 4090 for $1,500 AUD. Legit photos, legit feedback, legit description. I couldn't believe it.
I would have bought that. would have paid 1650.
@@crash42modder63 I'm selling mine for 2000.
Not seeing any "deals" on used GPUs that are actually substantially below current retail.
That Starcraft music tho... Great video as always Bryan.
Came to say the same thing.. a man of taste! Unlocked some memories when I heard it.
"Your base is under attack"
Additional pylons are required
Jacked up and good to go!
If you are using a 20 series or older GPU I could see going with the 5000 series. Or perhaps an entry level 3000 series the 5000 series may make sense, but the upgrade really isn't there with DLSS 4 coming to all RTX cards. My 4070 is going to last until it wont work anymore. I dont get people who are into the new shiny thing.
You mean the same new shiny 4000 series thing you bought back when? Funny how after you make the purchase it's now stupid for others to do so and get the new shiny thing.
@@animalyze7120 Oh yeah, the one I replaced my GTX 1080 with. clown.
I think it may still be a good idea to pick up 3 series cards that have more than 8GB VRAM than 4 series GPUs with 8GB VRAM.
good point that
Yeah just a quick spot check in my area (US) and prices on 3000 and 4000 series are somehow even MORE inflated than they were before reviews
Value of the inflated petrodollar
7:40 nice terran music here
I was like: Is that the Star Craft song playing? lol I had flashbacks
I literally listen to the terran theme when I go out sometimes, this time I opened this video and I thought that because of some bug my music was overlapping with the video 😂
Terran 3, underrated :P
Go go go!
Came here for this, couldn't pin-point that theme song from the top of my head
Don't forget about those tons of non-working 4090 / 4090D "without chip and ram" sold in bulk everywhere! I know you know about those. Just a reminder ;) Take care. Thanks for sharing.
I am still happy with my GTX 1070...everything what I like to play runs very smooth😊
Nothing wrong with being content with what you have :) cheers!
i had a 1080 did its job but then i got a 3070 boi i was missing a lot got it for 180$ used
@@vishwajeetpanwar3271 you were lucky! Here in Malta prices are way higher like 3070 for 350+ and if I am lucky to fund one second hand
@igorpro8029 hmmm then i guess not keep it and try loss less scaling on steam fuck expensive used parts
Congrats? But that's a low-end card now. I guess you don't play anything demanding.
Ive been hearing about alot of 40 series scams going around where cards are being sold with the internals removed from them
Then what do they do with the PCB?
@@CockpitCrusher I remember some story out of China that they were tearing off the shrouds and using the internals for some application. I just can't remember what, maybe AI data centers? I only remember it being so wasteful.
@@vivisimonvi I'm just saying isn't the pci attached to the central gpu which is attached to the heat sink. Basically the internals are also providing most of the external structure so idk how you could remove them unless you're just extracting the central gpu and the memory chips maybe
@ ua-cam.com/video/zJlFmyr8c14/v-deo.html
@mikepimentel3617 Ohh damn!! It's worse than I thought but I suspected it had something to do with top end cards being banned in China.
I checked US markets, no signs of panic or better deals here Plus, it would be haphazard to sell yours before you get a 50 series, not knowing for certain when you can get one They may be as easy to get as 40 series? Bit coin mining is dead so GPUs shouldn't be that difficult to obtain
Thanks for checking so I don't have to... It'll be months before most people can start getting their hands on these things.
That’s because the people in USA are busy dealing with a messy leader, and their huge losses of money from the leader meme coins; they don’t have extra money for upgrade to the RTX 5000.
@@tagodain He has not been in power long enough to do damage to the economy, were doing just fine
@@tagodain oh yeah we're all shivering in our boots and tearing our hair out, THAT'S why we're not buying the new GPU series that was too afraid to show us it's raw raster performance gains.
US are little smarter than our cousins from down under. that's saying a lot considering our presidents from the past 2 decades😂 but yea it seems to literally only be an Australia thing. Australians don't really game as much as the rest of the world either so that honestly helps a lot with the prices
I would seriously avoid Gigabyte GPUs. I cruise Newegg quite a bit, and I see a ton of refurbished Gigabyte GPUs on there, which means they break a lot. I realize that refurbs can also be trade-ins that have been cleaned up and not repaired, but when there are quite a few of the exact same model GPU on Newegg as a refurbished, then that points to a problem
Last 3 gens I had a 2080/3080 gigabyte auros master, and a 4080 gigabyte aero oc. All great with zero issues. I wouldn6 even consider thinking they're any faultier than any other brand
For amd they are terrible
Lol got an almost new 4080 super tuf for 1k EUR, smells fresh, looks fresh, runs fresh and still warranty iam happy.
Chilling with RX watching all the mugs rob each other 🤣😆🤣🤣
Rx 480 or?
@@christophermullins7163 Get with the times bro.
I mean right now i see a few 4070/4070 super fe cards selling for $600 used. Selling one and buying a 5070 fe or upgrading to a 5080 fe is not bad at all.
Really love the StarCraft music in there, reminds me of the heydays
All these years watching your videos Bryan, I still love seeing your passion for this community and industry. I love the deal hunting and your take on things as a whole about GPUs. Stay frosty bro and keep making that tech YES goodness!
I bought a new 4080 super around msrp a few months ago and been enjoying it, the 5000 series doesnt look promising enough for me to want to dump it. I'm still holding out hope for a 5080 super/ti/whatever with 24gb using the new 3gb memory modules. Id get that for the extra vram but buying another 16gb card seems pointless even if it has some uplift in performance (not much by the look of things).
*There is not a SINGLE 4070 or 4080 or 4090 for sale second hand here in New Zealand*
4070TiS is the best value pound for pound card in years, anyone that 'panic sold' it to buy an overpriced 5080 POS is going to be very sad when they actually play a game.
Panic selling 4000 series cards that are pretty much as fast at the same power draw as the 5000 series is. The 5000 series is not much better then a refresh. :) AMD UDNA and 6000 series in 2026-2027 will be a node shrink and something to get excited over
30% is 30%. People that play on 4k need every bit of gain.
1440p and 1080p the 5090 isn't worth it.
I still want to get an Rx 9070 XT for my eGPU enclosure. You can't beat amd gpus for use on Linux gaming rigs. Nvidia drivers suck on linux
I would rather buy a 4090 new right now than a 5090. At MSRP, it's a better value. A 24 gig 5080 at 1200 or 1400 would completely kill the 5090...like imagine any of these 5000 series cards with higher vram and then add 200 bucks to msrp, then tell me 5090 isn't a terrible value proposition. Who would buy 5090 if there was a 24g or 32g 5080, even if it was 1400 msrp? No one.
I don't get it though. Ngreedia will artificially shorten the supply of 50X0 cards/chips for sure. They make WAY more money in the AI bracket. The gaming cards are rather a "showcase" of sorts i reckon.
@Luxflux777 good luck finding a 4090 at msrp. I'll sell u mine for 2$k
I got a flashback of Crocodile Dundee when you said Viper. Lol😂
4080’s still going for around 1k usd near me. I bought a 3080ti FE for $300usd.
meand 4080 gp to 360 price
3080ti is still a decent card. Gave one to a friend with a fried 4090. He had the 4090 replaced for a while and is not putting it back in because "everything works alright" ;)
@@buzzbang9164 idk what you’re trying to say here
@@peterpain6625 yup, solid card for sure. Had plans to get a 5080 but I think the 3080 ti will do just fine for another year or 2 for me. I only play bfv anyway lol.
Amazing price compared to the used rip off UK prices.
Ehh, here in the states eBay has 3090s going for $1500 and the only 4K series under $1500 are broken for parts only.
Yeah, insane used market price for 3090/Ti.
I've seen them at 800 range near Phoenix. I've seen 4090s for 1100 to 1400 here recently
the 50 gen doesn't look like it's worth going through the hassle of selling the old stuff, when i switched to 4k because i planned to upgrade i thought 4090 will stink in 4k but it's actually really good already, if you think about it it's kinda like a 5080ti now 20-30% more is just not worth that much money. also i would never be able to watercool a 5090, 4090 already made me reconsider if i wanted to do it because the price is just so ridiculous.
USE LOSSLESS on 4090 will get same results as MFG. waste of money an development
it's 20-30 percent in certain scenarios. I highly doubt the overall performance uplift is anything above 10-13% this generation. I highly believe this will be the worse launch nvidia has ever experienced. they didn't proudly show any true raw rasterization comparisons and the only other thing that they said about the 5090 is mfg multi frame gen and that it has 32gbs of ram now. but its not event gddr7x it's just gddr7. nvidia has for generations always launched their gpus with suped up gddrx modules. this Is the first time they haven't. and it's built on the exact same platform the 40 series was launched on. its highly concerning.
Love the deals hustle. Good time to shop around.
Anyone selling their 4000 series cards expecting to get a 5000 series is an idiot. These idiots clearly have never been through a GPU launch. The 5090 is going to be absolutely scarce.
Even more so now that Nvidia redesigned their card for enterprise solutions. They did not spend all that money for gamers benefit. There is a huge market these days that is just below enterprise level hardware. And that card will meet it very nicely. Gamers don't need to be able to fit multiple GPU's like AI etc does.
If you want get a 5090 through Best Buy good luck, with the 40 series launch, I would have it in my cart then it would say sold out after I would put my credit card number in. One time I thought I had it bought then I would get a email, sorry not in stock.
If your financial situation is so bad that you have to sell your current card before you can afford a new one, you shouldn't even be thinking about the 50 series.
@ Agreed. I now think that anyone who sold their 4090 now will likely get the worst value. Those that can somehow acquire a 5090 and still have their 4090 will likely get an insane amount for their 4090
7:30 lovely starcraft music. Man I love this game. It reminds me with good old times
Hardware seems super cheap in Australia, I sold 4080S in like 5 minutes for a little over 1000USD few days ago in EU.
Yeah it's pretty cheap here, as well as Japan. US too, but I haven't been there in 6 years now. wow time flies.
I've seen 4080/s in the $900-1000 in the state. It's rare. $1400 is the cheapest 4090 and that is a dell OEM.
@@techyescity Haven't seen any cheap offers in Japan.
@christophermullins7163 The cheapest I have seen a 4090 in the us is $1000 usd. I think that was an outliner. I have seen $1400 to 1650 usd lately
Yeah i am seeing the odd ball 4090 for around 1k. But typically close to 1500+. Basically if you find a nonmined card for 1k you should jump on it. Few i saw on ebay for 1k are suspicious for various reasons though...from shipping from China to someone with multiple indicating it was a mining card or workhorse
Except for one hot stuff build I did with X58 in 2008 (and a followup slightly lesser version of it in 2009 because Amazon double shipped half the order) I have always been a few generations behind on hardware.
Having spent $2700 AUD on my 4080 when it was new I'm gonna be sticking with this card for many years yet.
Loved the retro feel of the Starcraft Terran music!
Cant believe the first 2 comments here are bot 😭😭
Poof! They are gone!
I remember you buying up all the 2000 series cards at the launch of the 3000 series and then that huge gpu shortange happened
I bought a used to mine 3090 a few years ago for 400 u$d, since then I was waiting to make the jump to a 5090, but now that I've seen the benchs and the price, I think i'll wait for the 6000 series, I don't think GTA VI will come out to PC until late 2026 or 2027, and can't think of other game that pushes tech and my interest to change my current PC.
Good decision, and I am sure you will not regret it in the long run. I will do the same, also on the 30 series
Love the music selection. "Build more supply depots". "Not enough minerals".
I liked the StarCraft music too myself.
I mean, I'll gladly decide to sell my 4080 if a 5080 is worth grabbing. But this time around, it's not looking like it. 15% performance increase is depressing.
yes true
I literally just built an AMD rig using that same case you got at the first stop. That is the Darkrock EC2 ATX case. They are kind of cheaply built but has plenty of room. Three 120MM fans in front but the bottom fan sinks below the motherboard plate. Two 120MM fans on top and one in the rear. Lots of room in the back for cable management but the removable HDD tray in the PSU compartment gets in the way of your wires if you use it. It's removable if you install a larger PSU but then you have no place to mount a HDD. I paid $49.00 for it here in the US. Love the easy open and removable glass side panel though.
Nvidia made a naming mistake, the 5090 is a disguised 4090 ti stock that they have excess in stock , just re badge the card and rename it, TADAH!!! Gouge people for scalper prices, Win for them.
look at ai performance comparisons
But it’s got an avg of 25-35% increase gen over gen. What TI models have had that kind of a jump over their base? The 2080ti definitely wasn’t 35% stronger than a 2080 on avg nor was a 3090ti over a 3090.
The last time there was a halo Ti was the 3090ti and that was only 10% faster than the 3090.
@@Safetytrousers that’s what I’m getting at in regards to what OP said. Raw performance increase is about 25% on avg so I can’t see this being a 4090ti. I think people are just taking there frustration from the price and then trying to justify it through confusing comments z
@@lacm81 Oh look someone who actually cares. Yes thats an insult not a compliment.
awesome music choice in a lot of the video brian , now i want to play og starcraft some lol
STOP FLEXING 50series MFG benchmarks an USE LOSSLESS on 4090 will get same results. 50 series is a waste of money an development, people are dumb
Buying a used 4090 is a waste of money lol. Have you see the prices?
@ sounds like you missed out 2yrs ago. 4090 suprim liquid x was 3500 AUD 5090FE is 4g an liquid x version will be 6000 AUD. Double the size and money for 30%. I bought one on afterpay an Im poor an on Centrelink. 90series GPU are gold they hold value, I would sell it for 3,300 but i aint falling for 50series scam
@ Doesn't change the fact it's overpriced and not worth it for anyone rn.
@ Also tons of scamming going on. Spending that much and we aren't even 100% safe from getting a bricked gpu or nothing at all.
@ well im laughing, scams are always a thing, dont miss the train next time, an wait 3months an it will be a different story or you'll be stuck because everyone will notice 5070ti will be the best for $$ just use lossless or gefore now if you dont pirate
1:57 - That looks almost exactly like my Sama case. It's a mid tower case on the smaller side.
I love my 4080 super and I won’t be getting rid of it any time soon. It does EVERYTHING I need it to do. I don’t play on 4K and I don’t play any 4K games.
Guys.. if y'all haven't tried the new Transformer Model.. it is absolutely obvious. It seems that the edge detection is far better. In movement and even when still, it holds more definition instead of fizzling with pixelation. From first sight it was very obvious that the way the upscaling works is a completely different logic. Insane upgrade imo.
Loving the music man. Interesting video and be interesting to follow the prices.
Certainly not the case locally in Michigan in the US. I had the same idea and everything listed is at or above msrp
That is a sign of how unwilling people are to upgrade, and that they feel they don't have enough money to buy a 5090. The 5090 won't sell through...I can't wait until the price cuts. Just think about it....used afterc2 years and out of warranty MUST be sold used below MSRP, everyone knows this, but resellers aren't pricing fair because if they don't sell at that price, the seller will simply not upgrade. Its just people hoping for some idiot to buy who doesn't exist...so yeah, if I can sell my 4090 at or above msrp, sure, I'll buy a 5090, but no one is going to buy it....
Once the 5070 base msrp models flood the market, they will be forced to lower their pricing hopefully.
uncle brian, how are you doing ?
i hope your are good & well, also in this new year i hope you will be blessed with alot of fortune and health!
now i need to catch up to your videos ahahaha, because i've been away since new year eve!
cheers, from your long time viewer since japan day before you moving into aus~
The messed up part is alot of the new games COD-BO6 for example FSR3 and DLSS were just broken and so people were just running raw raster so if you were expecting or relying on those features to make FPS you would be disappointed.
Deltaforce apparently having similar performance issues with FSR2/DLSS.
That said MW3 with FSR3 and even Fluidmotion frames ran great but people need to keep in mind the only thing you can seemingly rely on is raw Raster FPS.
Over here in EU panic selling was - a few 4090s for 2k Euro, so not much panic selling where I am, unfortunately.
Decided to check your statement out, and well, kinda funny: The first decently priced and proper looking 4080 Super FE I found on ebay (Germany) is sold by some person who is into SFF PCs. Shows the "seldom used" GPU inside the Ncase M2 "cheese grater" xD
Once again I'm amazed by your prices at aussies.. There's nothing like that in Finland, used 4080s are firmly between 850 to 1100 €😢
got a 6 month old gigabyte windforce oc 4070 for about US$390. it has warranty and everything and is around the performance I wanted to be at. There are deals out there but they are rare.
Not in Europe, specifically Slovakia. I checked second hand listings locally and haven't seen any, except people putting up ads they'll buy a RTX 40 series GPUs instead. One that I saw that made me chuckle is an ad for someone buying a RTX 4090 for 800€ w/ warranty, which I doubt anyone is crazy enough to undervalue it by that much, especially with actual warranty.
Really? I've noticed prices have gone up in the US market over these last few months, especially used. I was lucky to find my 4080 for $800 back in August
I'm just in love with these pick-up-deal series
I thought those fire selling 2080ti cards with Ampere launching were pretty clueless , but to see 4080s being fire sold with only slightly better hardware around the corner takes it to a whole new level 😂
I say this as someone who has owned both of those cards as well and my 4080 Super serves me well.
4080 is and will still be good for "almost everything" in 1440 for a good while.
@@peterpain6625It's 2025, who in their right mind plays at 1440p while 4K DLSS Performance exists?
At least you're not as clueless as Asmongold. That dude is talking about getting a 5090 but still playing on 1440p because 4K is "probably not worth it yet"
Meanwhile all benchmarks I see is the gap between the 4090 and 5090 at 4K being the biggest, while below that it's a waste of money.
@@peterpain6625 I'm quite happy using my 4080 Super with a 4k144 display :) - might not max it out most of the time but it does well. I reckon it's going to be good at that for at least another 3-4 years , the 5080 isn't much better
@@tourmaline07
Rtx 5080 is only 15% faster than 4080 super.... bad generation.
@789uio6y I've seen a leak from Blender suggesting even less than that .Given that I run my 4080 Super at 360W and 2.9Ghz core/25.6Gbps memory I'm going to be very interested to see what the benchmarks will be for it 😂
Selling a system on Wednesday myself. Not as high end more of a mid end system. 3700 x, 6600 xt, 850w ps, 16gb 3600ram, 2tb 7200rpm nvme, msi pro wifi mobo, CoolerMaster case. $1000 cnd. Worth more but for what I spent I am still getting a small return.
7:29 Starcraft music man that's a game i havn't played in a while since hitting gm i retired and was happy with it :D
In the EU, used 40-series are only slightly less than brand new, usually more. You can get a brand new 4080S from ComputerUniverse in EU for or slightly below MSRP (1,099 Euro). I got one for 1079 last week. 5080 MSRP is about 1,200 (if you are very lucky), so if you can't get a 5080, a new 4080S will probably give you 90%+ of the performance.
Owner of a 4070Ti (non super) here,
was considering upgrading to a 5080, as I'm considering an upgrade to a 4k screen - but after the reviews (& price estimations) - yeah...let's see how the 6000 series (or anyone else that might be competitive in 2 years) looks. 🤷♂
Also, the 4000 series only shows that it makes sense to not buy at launch, but wait & see how the "MLU" refresh looks like.
There is a complete difference in the used market in Aus vs UK. Massive difference.
Across the tech media, the focus is on "what delivers the maximum performance" and very little on "What delivers sufficient performance". Users would do well to those few who focus on the latter!
I just did a platform upgraded because went from the G9 ultra wide to triple g5 screens for my SIM racing setup and still wanted to play 1440 but didn't want to wait The end of January with there being no 9800 x3ds available so I end up getting a bundle deal for a new ryzen 9 7950 x3d and x670 motherboard for 750$ and then got a brand new Zotec 4080 super for $950 and then sold my 5800x3d motherboard and ram to my friend and had him get the rest of the the parts for me to build him a PC for his new Sim rig and I'm completely happy
Prices are still trash in the UK, people are paying near retail
Nice background music. I want to play StarCraft now. 😆
Instead of looking for an upgrade for my 7900XTX, I downgraded my monitor resolution from an ultrawide to 1440p. BUT also upgraded to OLED. Better image, less pixels and only cost me about 200 euro. (Sold the old monitor, and bought the new one with a amazing deal, new from the shop at 60% of normal price)
That gpu is going to last me for a long while.
You got a great deal when you purchased that RTX 3080 for 450$ here in Norway it costs the equivalent of 700 for the cheaper versions and 800 for the expensive models.
Sold my 4090 at the equivalent of 2100 au$ and I think I could have earned roughly 300 bucks more with some patience but I wanted the money in my pocket before the launch of the 5090.
The 5090 FE launches here at the equivalent of 4070au$ but it will get sold out and the prices we actually have to pay for most of the AIB models is likely atleast 300 - 500 bucks more.
I upgraded my system this past holiday season. R7 9800x3d and an asus tuff gaming 4080 sup oc. I told myself If the 5080 is that much better over the 4080 then ill return and upgrade. No issue. As of typing this im still technically withing the return period. The thing is, I love the performance of my system so much i dont even wanna go through the hassle of taking out the graphics card. I think im comfortable with this and will probably wait for a 5080 super or something equivalent. Might even wait for next gen.
Street prices on used 4k series are still highish, but you can get a good deal if you keep looking.
I just saw the dlss 4 update on cyberpunk and I have to say it looks insanely good even with my 3080 10g. Ultra performance looks like quality/balance to me from the previous version. Please make a video on this.
Whole build montage I’m thinking “in the rear, with the gear”
not the case in the US sadly
be careful on the intel 13th and 14th gen procs, the entire 65w and above line has the possibility of corrosion.
They don't know what they have in their hands, if they see an RTX 4090 for 1,300 just give them the money and run
Gigabyte's 4080 Super is super cool too, it stays in the 50s C at full usage LOL several people including myself couldn't believe it since it's a 320W card. Yes, it's that 4nm process that's super efficient and cool, just like the 9000 Ryzens.
StarCraft music a nice touch. Talk about nostalgic. That hits the spot!
I have a new EVGA 3080Ti and a new ASUS TUF 4090 waiting on new system builds. I've considered selling the GPUs to help with a 5090 LC, but I'd still have to sell my truck in order to buy a complete new system. I'll likely wait a few generations. Best to all.
10:00 - Dang, Bryan slides into a Miami Vice chase. :D
No sign of a significant panic selloff in the UK yet. There are a few 4000 series cards on ebay, but the bidding is already kinda nuts.
No panic here, hanging on to my 4090. I want to see if their are even going to be any 50 series in stock after one minute it releases. The third party 50 series cards are going to be way over $2000 dollars plus their might be tariffs added to the cost. I don't want to get stuck with my old 2080ti if I would sell my 4090.
there. stop playing games and learn the difference
Also need to be careful of scammers on the 40 series, too many stealing the actual processors and vram off the cards before they send them out.
4090 is going to be a halo tier card into next gen so it’d be crazy if people are fire saleing it.
With decent air flow both CPU and GPU can easily last well over 15 years, eg. my 2012 i7 2600k + 7970 GHz lasted till 2024, still in running condition... and people ditch them way before that...
I will upgrade when when a graphics card can give me (1) a bigger increase in real frames, (2) more frames per dollar, and (3) more frames per watt.
In my opinion, frame generation is best if you are already getting 60+ real frames to begin with and a high refresh rate monitor.
I went from Rx 590-rtx3060- to a rtx 3080 used & am really pleased with the performance & price etc.
$800 for a 4080 and $700 for a 4070TiS here in California is what seems to be the market rate.
I've got my fingers crossed I can find a 4070TiS for $650 or a 4080 for $750 or 4080S for $800 before the 5090 launches and we get some shortages.
They will want to buy those cards back if the DDR7 shortage becomes a thing.
@@mateopaul-jc5xq I'll pretend it's been soldered down lol.
Don't buy a 5000 series, NOT the flagship models anyway. You're going to pay the cost of an arm and leg to play games? And another thing, we're talking about ONE component here. I would just wait for a good deal on a used 3090 or 4000 card. Don't let these manufacturers trick you into paying 100% more for 10-15% fps gains. I have an EVGA 3090 and I'm pretty much done with building PCs for the next 8 years or so.
Yet you paid the arm and leg for a 90 series card that isn't needed nor offers much for gamers. 70 series cards the top slot for normal gaming at full settings anything higher is pure bragging rights for crap they can't even fully see (99% of 80 and 90 series users don't have a display capable of showing 300+ fps) Basically they bought a governed corvette that only hits 60mph but still paid full sticker price for the one that does 250+ mph.
@animalyze7120 *bought my 3090 used $750