The ONLY criticism I would offer is to try not to make all your drive sprockets as custom pieces. Try to figure out mounting fixtures for them that would enable you to use them as is.... Because those sprockets are GOING to wear out. And it's going to be a huge PITA to fabricate 4 new ones every time. Still an awesome build, though.
Yeah simple bolt on sprockets are the way to go but the front sprockets always have a small diameter hole in the middle that won’t fit Over the shaft . I’m having the same problem
Dude, freaking smart to use 2 main sprockets like that. I would steal sprockets next time and not aluminum ones. But damn, you really surprised me. Never saw 2 sprockets like that and it really makes sense.
I'm really happy to see someone building that suspension. I've been thinking about that sort of setup to years now and I've never seen it in a build. I thought of it as a teenager watching OCC. I thought it would be really cool for them to build a bike that had a pair of front tires in the rear with swingarms and chains in the middle instead of a single wide rear tire. If setup correctly a bike built like that could standup on it's own without a kickstand, but could roll around corners.
I’m actually going to a fabrication school because of you. You are so talented and I hope to become as talented as you at fabrication and building things keeping doing your thing Man you are a huge inspiration to me!
I’m more excited about this build than I was about the VFR1000 buggy. It looks amazing so far. One suggestion I have is when you mount your shocks on the rear make sure that at full extension your ride height is a little higher than you want so that when the shocks compress under the weight of the buggy it’s sitting at exactly the height you want. Hope that made sense, lol.
I just wanted to give you a big thumbs up 👍 doing this single handedly and getting it done. Not always the easiest task while recording and editing and dealing with life in general. So a big high five and keep being you.
That twin-chain setup is genius. Humungous amounts of travel with no CVs or UJs or anything because it's all just rotating around the drive sprocket which rotates anyway. Plus super low unsprung weight.
Great build! I'm concerned the tubing isn't strong enough. I know you're not done. It looks thin. Looking forward to you pulling this off! On the edge of my seat, a little bit.
Incredible setup. Reminds me of the suspension on the Halo Wharthog. Also using the jack shaft to also act as the pivot for the control arms just blew my mind. That can you so much travel it should be illegal.
I came up with a design couple years ago i call the mantis it uses gears in place the chains and is awd but this is awsome project cant way for progression follow it along to see where you go
I like this, but one thing I think is a must on this build would be chain tensioners, on each of those bolts ur using to adjust tension. Just as an extra step to KEEPING it tight, even if the bolt slipped. Also would make chain tightening a breeze.
Just an idea, could be more complicated than it's worth, but for the dual transmission set up you could use a Stick for the independent trans and make Paddle Shifters of some kind for the engine trans
Not that my opinion matters, but it’s great to see you level-up on the suspension. Now you can get different “spring-rates” The compression and rebound can be tuned. And the shocks look to be rebuildable. Nice choice!
Tons of travel front and rear. You're going to need a bigger trailer and truck to bring this and the VF1000 buggy to the trails. Cannot wait to see this rip through the trails.
Really love the build so far! My only worry is the adjustable tensioning where the trailing arms meet the hubs. That will end up sliding no matter how tight you make it, unless you use a bolt to adjust the tension (as in, twist it one way to lengthen travel a little, the other way to reduce)
I had a similar Idea , except using 2 cr250 rear swing arms , they have everything on them you need , sprockets , chains , shocks, and linkage and 18" knobbies
Love the build, my only concern is the main roll bar hoop not being a single piece. Those joints at the corners will be failure points in the event of a rollover.
He's gonna have problems when turnings because on the outside wheels there's gonna be tension on the lower part of the chain because outside wheels want to spin faster, using tensioners will create more problems, that's what I think, we will see when it's finished
I like your work I'm getting ready to start another build myself but I'm going to be using a 4-cylinder car motor I did the motorcycle motor onto four-wheeler transplant several times and hitting the motorcycle motor on lawn mowers and making motorcycles into tricycles now I'm going to be building a buggy myself
The only major thing I find odd in this build is that the pivotpoint for the rear wheels is also the drive shaft. That shaft and everything attached to it will have to be strong as hell. Not to mention the bearings that are mounted to the swingarms. Great video!
Love the unique approach on the chain drive. Just on the adjustable portion of your chain . Might flip it on the down side , due to torque of the engine possibly letting the chain loosen will in motion . A lot of force would be controlled by just the bolts . Hopefully It helps . Love your videos and your projects !!!
great job hard work you get better amazing what you have built-in the short time i have been watching your videos and that even brushing the credit you need i know how much time and effort goes into and its a lot with me i just love to build you must have that to keep on knocking it down i got a feeling you are going to be the one that really goes places with it and i hope i am right you deserve to any way rather be welding good luck with your builds and long may you build i know the world of power sports have to be proud of you because you have done one hell of a good job on everything i have seen you do way to be and like you would say have a nice day
Im fairly certain that transmission is missing a piece that holds the input shaft and its bearing in place. I think theres supposed to be a piece that slides over the shaft and bolts to the casing
Project name suggestion....Fire Quad (on account motor is from a fireblade 😎) The the whole gearbox idea for having reverse gear, have you considered just using a car starter motor with a ring gear then rig it up on your mid shaft, that way you have an electric reverse gear and save a bunch of weight over having to use the car gearbox ? Also as for sprockets, instead of buying motorcycle sprockets and machining to fit, you can buy sprockets from the bearing industry like BMG that will work on the chains you have selected thus making getting a sprocket to suit your project easier
I like watching you channel you basic modify the off the shelf part and make them look like they were manufactured for a mass production vehicle. And when you make parts from scratch is a lost are it takes imagination to make stuff in to something. And that is great but Christmas ask for a small plasma table you can make those brackets in no time and you will save so much on plate steel because you cuts are perfect. If your worried about the cad program not that hard to use your definitely a computer person . But can't wait to see the reverses trike
It looks like you're going to need a chain guide on the upper suspension arm on each side so the chain doesn't wear through it. But it does look like a nice setup.
Solid shaft driving both rear wheels driven by chain. This seems to me not to allow the rear tires to go up and down independently. Once the front sprockets are welded in place it effectively locks both wheels into the same plane. When say the left rear goes up it will rotate the drive shaft forward which in turn will try to raise the opposing wheel. Some kind of differential is needed on the drive shaft is needed I would think. But maybe you already have something in mind. I'm interested to see how you work this.
Sometimes keeping it simple makes you look smarter and less complicated is faster to copy and maintain and overall lasted longer and less of a headache when shit happens and shit happens
Cool design but man that will be hard to work on. Could build the rear swingarms on the same plane/pivot point but outside the inner sprockets so you don’t havto tear everything apart if you need to work on or change something?
I love the build however I'm concerned at how much mechanical disadvantage there is going to because if the chain, add the tensioners, add rollers, shimmy and movement, drag, I just think drive shafts would be the wiser choice in my point of view, one or two chains...fine but 4 I think is leaning abit towards the disadvantage
I was almost going to say I hope he doesn't get one :) They make things too easy and it's really interesting seeing how he makes all these little parts without one.
I really enjoy your builds :) and i am watching this as two of my builds have just done sideways and the funds have gone out the door (yah bills haha) so needed some happy time and potential changes to mine
Four-wheel drive ... Four-wheel drive ... Four-wheel drive. For the next prjekt ... Four-wheel drive. thank you for your work ! But Four-wheel drive ;-)
Have you thought about a single arm on each side versus what you have now for rear suspension, I see a possible chain rubbing on the inner top arm during compression travel ..... I might be wrong ,just how it looks to me
I love watching all your builds but, maybe I missed something. Why are we building another off road buggy? I would like to see the three wheel cart get completed.
Digging the unique suspension. It looks awesome! My only question would be is; will you add a side load swing arm of some sort? As it sits right now it looks like you will be relying on the set screws of the bearings to keep it from shifting from side to side?
Was thinking to myself, since you should have an abundance of power available there with your choice of power plants. Wouldn't it be possible to extend the drive shaft that your drive sprocket comes off of, out further, so as to add additional drive sprocket onto it, allowing for you to make it all wheel drive easily enough. With possibly a means to disengage, one possibly both if need arises for whatever reasons. Sure would increase the places you could go, and make it a bit more challenging for you to build, but I don't remember if any others have come up with this concept before. Grind Hard Plumbing be only ones I can think of that would have if it has been, but then it wouldn't be on the scale of your build as they typically do the small plastic car type of builds here lately. Just a thought, I'd toss up to see if you might consider taking it to the next level..
I like how almost every build u try doing something unique. The chain driven independent suspension look really good and interesting.
Chris ur the 💩 I love ur builds
I really like this suspension design, so unique, it gives room for the engine in the middle and doesn't require expensive heim joints. Great stuff man
You are a very talented individual. Your skill set is way above what it should be for your age. Keep up the good work.
I just love the sounds of the metal parts clanking together. Oddly satisfying
How you held that sprocket in the chuck was genius.
I cant wait to see how this absolutely one of a kind, out of the box, beautifully crafted beast works.
I love how you make these builds look easy there is alot of room to improve my build series!😁🙌
The ONLY criticism I would offer is to try not to make all your drive sprockets as custom pieces.
Try to figure out mounting fixtures for them that would enable you to use them as is....
Because those sprockets are GOING to wear out.
And it's going to be a huge PITA to fabricate 4 new ones every time.
Still an awesome build, though.
Not for him. Its part of the fun
Yeah simple bolt on sprockets are the way to go but the front sprockets always have a small diameter hole in the middle that won’t fit Over the shaft . I’m having the same problem
Considering how much he drives hes creations, wearing them out shouldnt be problem ;
Custom sprocket hubs would be better that can mate to the spline and be held in by a retaining clip.
Yeah those aluminum sprockets are junk even on an atv so this motor is gonna rip those teeth off
THAT is how one handles rear suspension without messing up the chain while moving. Chain AND rear MUST pivot at same point. TY for making this.
Dude, freaking smart to use 2 main sprockets like that. I would steal sprockets next time and not aluminum ones. But damn, you really surprised me. Never saw 2 sprockets like that and it really makes sense.
I'm really happy to see someone building that suspension. I've been thinking about that sort of setup to years now and I've never seen it in a build. I thought of it as a teenager watching OCC. I thought it would be really cool for them to build a bike that had a pair of front tires in the rear with swingarms and chains in the middle instead of a single wide rear tire. If setup correctly a bike built like that could standup on it's own without a kickstand, but could roll around corners.
I love your videos bro I've learnt so much from you and you were one of the biggest inspirations for my channel, thank you man 👍👍👍👍
He is awesome !!!
Thanks rather b welding for subscribing to my channel! Any advice would be appreciated. I like your rear suspension setup it should work well
I’m actually going to a fabrication school because of you. You are so talented and I hope to become as talented as you at fabrication and building things keeping doing your thing Man you are a huge inspiration to me!
I’m more excited about this build than I was about the VFR1000 buggy. It looks amazing so far. One suggestion I have is when you mount your shocks on the rear make sure that at full extension your ride height is a little higher than you want so that when the shocks compress under the weight of the buggy it’s sitting at exactly the height you want. Hope that made sense, lol.
I just wanted to give you a big thumbs up 👍 doing this single handedly and getting it done. Not always the easiest task while recording and editing and dealing with life in general. So a big high five and keep being you.
That twin-chain setup is genius. Humungous amounts of travel with no CVs or UJs or anything because it's all just rotating around the drive sprocket which rotates anyway. Plus super low unsprung weight.
Great build! I'm concerned the tubing isn't strong enough. I know you're not done. It looks thin. Looking forward to you pulling this off! On the edge of my seat, a little bit.
Incredible setup. Reminds me of the suspension on the Halo Wharthog. Also using the jack shaft to also act as the pivot for the control arms just blew my mind. That can you so much travel it should be illegal.
I came up with a design couple years ago i call the mantis it uses gears in place the chains and is awd but this is awsome project cant way for progression follow it along to see where you go
I like this, but one thing I think is a must on this build would be chain tensioners, on each of those bolts ur using to adjust tension. Just as an extra step to KEEPING it tight, even if the bolt slipped. Also would make chain tightening a breeze.
Just an idea, could be more complicated than it's worth, but for the dual transmission set up you could use a Stick for the independent trans and make Paddle Shifters of some kind for the engine trans
Not that my opinion matters, but it’s great to see you level-up on the suspension. Now you can get different “spring-rates” The compression and rebound can be tuned. And the shocks look to be rebuildable. Nice choice!
You’re so good at welding. Every time you weld it looks flawless. But I don’t know much about welding it’s just fun to watch you build stuff.
I find this chain drive long-travel independent rear suspension quite amazing!
Tons of travel front and rear. You're going to need a bigger trailer and truck to bring this and the VF1000 buggy to the trails. Cannot wait to see this rip through the trails.
SUGGESTION:
chain sliders/rollers for where the trailing arm bars cross the chain.. those will get shredded when the chain slaps
Really love the build so far! My only worry is the adjustable tensioning where the trailing arms meet the hubs. That will end up sliding no matter how tight you make it, unless you use a bolt to adjust the tension (as in, twist it one way to lengthen travel a little, the other way to reduce)
I had a similar Idea , except using 2 cr250 rear swing arms , they have everything on them you need , sprockets , chains , shocks, and linkage and 18" knobbies
I appreciate that you use the “hold it up and see if that is where I want it” technique like I do. LOL
Love this type of build- I’m enjoying every minute of this. Thanks!
A whole video of fabrication. Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
I love all of your builds. You are amazing at what you do!
Love the build, my only concern is the main roll bar hoop not being a single piece. Those joints at the corners will be failure points in the event of a rollover.
I like the rear suspension, almost the same as the one I'm gonna build. Don't forget to build in a anti roll bar, on the back!
Very cool. You might need some sort of additional lock on that chain tensioner to prevent it from moving when you hit a bump.
My face was well set into a grin when I saw the suspension geometry you built there. It looks so friggin clean and smooth and an intelligent design :D
Idea for a new project: Crane!
Something small, roll-able with a small electric engine to lift things.
I made this comment also. A gantry crane would make his life a lot easier
Electric motor
Excelente o projeto ta avançando e sempre com novidades!
Acho fantástico quando você trabalho no seu torno caseiro!!!
Great job! May I suggest putting your slot for chain adjustment on the bottom, that way the torque won’t try to loosen the chain as you accelerate.
Looks almost like the style of suspension on the Halo warthog vehicle, nice!
Man, Miller advertises hard on your channel. I never knew I needed a bobcat with a remote start so badly
I would try and add a chain roller/tensioner because that’s a long piece of chain
He's gonna have problems when turnings because on the outside wheels there's gonna be tension on the lower part of the chain because outside wheels want to spin faster, using tensioners will create more problems, that's what I think, we will see when it's finished
I like your work I'm getting ready to start another build myself but I'm going to be using a 4-cylinder car motor I did the motorcycle motor onto four-wheeler transplant several times and hitting the motorcycle motor on lawn mowers and making motorcycles into tricycles now I'm going to be building a buggy myself
Super jealous of your machining tools and skills. Always look forward to what you come up with on the lathe.
Heck ya buddy great work with that chain drive this is going to be a sweet buggy
The only major thing I find odd in this build is that the pivotpoint for the rear wheels is also the drive shaft. That shaft and everything attached to it will have to be strong as hell. Not to mention the bearings that are mounted to the swingarms.
Great video!
Love your builds always come out awesome.
Personally I would do things like the main hoop in one piece rather than 3 pieces.
Some beautiful welds there
Loving the 70's prono music choice lol
What is Prono music...lol
Love the unique approach on the chain drive. Just on the adjustable portion of your chain . Might flip it on the down side , due to torque of the engine possibly letting the chain loosen will in motion . A lot of force would be controlled by just the bolts . Hopefully It helps . Love your videos and your projects !!!
great job hard work you get better amazing what you have built-in the short time i have been watching your videos and that even brushing the credit you need i know how much time and effort goes into and its a lot with me i just love to build you must have that to keep on knocking it down i got a feeling you are going to be the one that really goes places with it and i hope i am right you deserve to any way rather be welding good luck with your builds and long may you build i know the world of power sports have to be proud of you because you have done one hell of a good job on everything i have seen you do way to be and like you would say have a nice day
Im fairly certain that transmission is missing a piece that holds the input shaft and its bearing in place. I think theres supposed to be a piece that slides over the shaft and bolts to the casing
Nice build hope it runs great
Nice trick with the sprocket in the lathe.
Project name suggestion....Fire Quad (on account motor is from a fireblade 😎)
The the whole gearbox idea for having reverse gear, have you considered just using a car starter motor with a ring gear then rig it up on your mid shaft, that way you have an electric reverse gear and save a bunch of weight over having to use the car gearbox ?
Also as for sprockets, instead of buying motorcycle sprockets and machining to fit, you can buy sprockets from the bearing industry like BMG that will work on the chains you have selected thus making getting a sprocket to suit your project easier
I like watching you channel you basic modify the off the shelf part and make them look like they were manufactured for a mass production vehicle. And when you make parts from scratch is a lost are it takes imagination to make stuff in to something. And that is great but Christmas ask for a small plasma table you can make those brackets in no time and you will save so much on plate steel because you cuts are perfect. If your worried about the cad program not that hard to use your definitely a computer person . But can't wait to see the reverses trike
Looking good! This thing is going to be crazy!
It looks like you're going to need a chain guide on the upper suspension arm on each side so the chain doesn't wear through it. But it does look like a nice setup.
Solid shaft driving both rear wheels driven by chain. This seems to me not to allow the rear tires to go up and down independently. Once the front sprockets are welded in place it effectively locks both wheels into the same plane. When say the left rear goes up it will rotate the drive shaft forward which in turn will try to raise the opposing wheel. Some kind of differential is needed on the drive shaft is needed I would think. But maybe you already have something in mind. I'm interested to see how you work this.
Sometimes keeping it simple makes you look smarter and less complicated is faster to copy and maintain and overall lasted longer and less of a headache when shit happens and shit happens
Holy cow, man, those sprockets are beeftastic.... That thing is looking bad to the bone.
Good to see you using a endless chain instead of your back.
That’s going to give you a great amount of travel. Nice job man.
Everything is so big... Scale down by 7% on every build
Juha Tuomala yup.... but ain’t Texas
Buggies life's matter too
Interesting point. I could see that.
Nah. It will need a bigger motor or a biiig V2
It's looking good to me already
Making good progress Chris! Well done! 👍😁
Dude. Killer shit going on here with this build. Don’t we all spend “too much” on our tinkering projects that the world can live without?! 😂
That bandsaw could use some TLC :D love your projects, and jealous of your ambition to keep it up as much as you do!
You have crazy mad skills
That kind of suspension was used in realy old race cars and it works fine
Cool design but man that will be hard to work on. Could build the rear swingarms on the same plane/pivot point but outside the inner sprockets so you don’t havto tear everything apart if you need to work on or change something?
So glad I found this chanel, got heaps to whatch!😍
You have really have come alongway since you started on u tube I like your projects you do
Awesome work dude, absolutely awesome.
Wow your tig welding has greatly improved
Keep it up man! The build is turning out awesome! hahaha and I love the BIG ASS SHOCKS your putting on it! DOPE!
I’d love to see the VF 1000 with a Boosted Boiz engine. A crossover build with Your channel, Boosted Boiz, and PFI Speed would be AWESOME!
I love the build however I'm concerned at how much mechanical disadvantage there is going to because if the chain, add the tensioners, add rollers, shimmy and movement, drag, I just think drive shafts would be the wiser choice in my point of view, one or two chains...fine but 4 I think is leaning abit towards the disadvantage
Bro your FABRICATION SKILLS are getting TOP NOTCH!! I've been watching you for a long time and really impressed!!(=
Okay dude you seriously need a plasma table
Mini custom CNC plasma table maybe ?? I would love that.
I was almost going to say I hope he doesn't get one :) They make things too easy and it's really interesting seeing how he makes all these little parts without one.
lets start gofundme for him !
With your skill I bet you could make a kick ass trophy truck/short course. That would be cool!
Awsome build so far! I will definitely be watching every episode to see it come to life! (notification bell = on!)😎
Great progress! Groovy tunes choice!
I really enjoy your builds :) and i am watching this as two of my builds have just done sideways and the funds have gone out the door (yah bills haha) so needed some happy time and potential changes to mine
Four-wheel drive ... Four-wheel drive ... Four-wheel drive.
For the next prjekt ... Four-wheel drive.
thank you for your work ! But Four-wheel drive ;-)
Have you thought about a single arm on each side versus what you have now for rear suspension, I see a possible chain rubbing on the inner top arm during compression travel ..... I might be wrong ,just how it looks to me
Love the videos... bit of a savour through this pandemic, honestly! Great work and good luck with this
Sweet build bro
This is a car. Make it wide. Make it long from front. It'll get mighty ❤
You need to clear coat all your hubs ect. bare metal is beautiful right up until it rusts. Great work needs to stay great bruv.
I love watching all your builds but, maybe I missed something. Why are we building another off road buggy? I would like to see the three wheel cart get completed.
It's a good day! When I look and see your video, has been posted!
Thanks for spending the money on good Suspension
Good work young man.
Nice project man
Great job, don’t listen to the critics
Digging the unique suspension. It looks awesome!
My only question would be is; will you add a side load swing arm of some sort? As it sits right now it looks like you will be relying on the set screws of the bearings to keep it from shifting from side to side?
Was thinking to myself, since you should have an abundance of power available there with your choice of power plants. Wouldn't it be possible to extend the drive shaft that your drive sprocket comes off of, out further, so as to add additional drive sprocket onto it, allowing for you to make it all wheel drive easily enough.
With possibly a means to disengage, one possibly both if need arises for whatever reasons. Sure would increase the places you could go, and make it a bit more challenging for you to build, but I don't remember if any others have come up with this concept before. Grind Hard Plumbing be only ones I can think of that would have if it has been, but then it wouldn't be on the scale of your build as they typically do the small plastic car type of builds here lately.
Just a thought, I'd toss up to see if you might consider taking it to the next level..
Sick build!