Altman@Microsoft, Shear@OpenAI, Chaos@Everywhere: Sutskever Regret and the Weekend That Changed AI

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2023
  • The implosion of OpenAI, a new AGI lab, Sutskever regret and a radical new CEO, the last 48 hours have altered the course of Generative AI. Drawing on multiple exclusive accounts, I’ll endeavour to recreate what happened, get more of the why as well as the when, and give you a clearer sense of the main players.
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  • @nicholaseruplarsen
    @nicholaseruplarsen 5 місяців тому +1274

    People building AGI unable to predict consequences of their actions 3 days in advance...

    • @sCiphre
      @sCiphre 5 місяців тому +50

      Yeah, rumors of sutskever being a genius seem wildly overstated

    • @jalengonel
      @jalengonel 5 місяців тому +136

      @@sCiphreno this fits exactly inline with geniuses. Savants in one field and not in others

    • @Corgiking521
      @Corgiking521 5 місяців тому

      @@sCiphrehe’s probably super autistic and doesn’t understand social dynamics.

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 5 місяців тому +103

      Why didn't they just ask ChatGPT how this would play out?

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify 5 місяців тому +16

      Hahahaha this guy gets it

  • @DaveShap
    @DaveShap 5 місяців тому +47

    "... And I haven't even had breakfast" lol

    • @LukelayAlt
      @LukelayAlt 5 місяців тому +9

      I was just watching your video on this as this got uploaded, funny seeing you here as well :p

    • @aiexplained-official
      @aiexplained-official  5 місяців тому +11

      Just munching now

    • @LukelayAlt
      @LukelayAlt 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@aiexplained-officialWhat'd ya get? :>

  • @RoadtrippinwithTakacs
    @RoadtrippinwithTakacs 5 місяців тому +625

    Please never change your format. Your content is world class. Love your intelligent analysis of everything AI. 💪

  • @jorgwei8590
    @jorgwei8590 5 місяців тому +32

    What died this weekend is the carefully maintained image of OpenAI as a dream team sharing one vision and having a reasonable shot at figuring out superintelligence in a safe way. If the company is that torn and unstable, how are we to trust them with creating the guard rails that will keep AGI/ASI away from doom?

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage 5 місяців тому +3

      "Money changes everything 🎵" - Cyndi Lauper.
      Plus add power and ego - "This is dangerous and important, and I'm the only person you and I can trust to get it right!" SamA, Ilya, even Elon Musk have good qualities, but don't trust their unshakable belief that they're the hero.

    • @kazedcat
      @kazedcat 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@skierpageElon thinks his the villain that is why his emo posting

    • @clray123
      @clray123 5 місяців тому

      If you were naive enough to believe that stinking marketing image, in light of how the company has been acting and with whom they have been making deals, you are beyond help anyways.

    • @jorgwei8590
      @jorgwei8590 5 місяців тому +2

      @@clray123 What a beautiful and productive way to initiate conversations with people you know nothing about.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 5 місяців тому

      @@jorgwei8590 I was not looking to initiate anything, but it seems to still have worked on yourself.

  • @DomskiPlays
    @DomskiPlays 5 місяців тому +418

    Absolutely wild. It feels like this will go down in history as a changing point. Not sure whether its good or not yet

    • @inigma_ITC
      @inigma_ITC 5 місяців тому +26

      There could be a silver lining. OpenAI goes back to its roots to become like Grok as a safety minded AGI approach, whereas Google and MS compete with each other on a commercialized approach. The result of which could be a battle of titans in just 10 years, four separate AGIs, two that are out of control and attempting to dominate humanity, and two that are benevolent and attempting to save humanity. With humans caught in the middle. World War AI could be just a decade away.

    • @baychaoz
      @baychaoz 5 місяців тому +5

      The problem with this development is that now OpenAI will never be as good as it could have been and Sam will probably not have all the power he could have had so less potential for his baby.

    • @DirtyLifeLove
      @DirtyLifeLove 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@inigma_ITCSound like the making of a good movie we will watch a few years before the actual war goes "hot."

    • @WilliamsDarkoh
      @WilliamsDarkoh 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@baychaozI think we're just exaggerating

    • @astronemir
      @astronemir 5 місяців тому +8

      It’s not going to be a big deal historically. The big deal is in the everyday research and accomplishments of the AI researchers

  • @TheMrKofiX
    @TheMrKofiX 5 місяців тому +306

    I feel like the last 6 hours have been more eventful for the AI scene than from April-October this year

    • @CATDHD
      @CATDHD 5 місяців тому +13

      and that's saying a lot

    • @fynnjackson2298
      @fynnjackson2298 5 місяців тому +3

      Pretty epic how entertaining this is, interesting to see how the dust settles.

    • @tristanboyle4450
      @tristanboyle4450 5 місяців тому +1

      exponential era

  • @jeremybristol4374
    @jeremybristol4374 5 місяців тому +76

    Ilya's impetus to remove Sam appears overly cautious bordering on paranoid from the outside. However, interviews with Ilya consistently show him as a deep thinker. He must have considered the negative blowback, decided the risk of keeping Sam was too great and charged forward. This makes me wonder if we're actually seeing the full capabilities of OpenAI. If Ilya believes their creation is far closer to autonomy than we realize, Ilya's actions make more sense.

    • @anonymes2884
      @anonymes2884 5 місяців тому +20

      I think this is likely. But the problem is, we have no idea who's _right_ - we're flailing around on the edge of developing a literally world changing technology (for good or ill) with no better guide than the feelings and opinions of people running the companies involved.
      (and in turn, _our_ only guide to whether they're even remotely trustworthy is "they're good at computer science/coding and seem to be 'deep thinkers' in interviews")

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton 5 місяців тому +7

      It doesn't matter how great this risk in some sense, because he completely undercuts his call for caution by acting so incautiously. At the very least he should have brought a strong case to Microsoft and given Sam some notice.

    • @virajsheth8417
      @virajsheth8417 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@KyriosHeptagrammatonthat wasn't possible because otherwise Msft or Sam wouldn't have pressured the other 3 members of the board. Illya must have thought about such sudden move, the only thing he miscalculated was the effect Sam had on most of the team. I mean maybe you're right, just sharing another perspective.

    • @iiwi758
      @iiwi758 5 місяців тому +11

      Didn't he said he regrets his recent actions? My guess is he simply did not think this whole thing through.

    • @NitFlickwick
      @NitFlickwick 5 місяців тому +11

      I think you are overestimating the value of expertise in one field to have value in another. I’m sure Ilya is very concerned, and perhaps rightly so, but his technical expertise does not naturally give him this kind of political expertise. I’ve been in the software industry for decades, and I’ve seen many brilliant engineers get blindsided by the emotional response to their very logical actions. I would bet this is one of those cases, and the rest of the board was relying on Ilya’s read of the company, which was obviously very bad.

  • @gmmgmmg
    @gmmgmmg 5 місяців тому +54

    This is basically Microsoft acquiring OpenAI.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 5 місяців тому +2

      Not much of a change to be honest.

    • @gmmgmmg
      @gmmgmmg 5 місяців тому +4

      @@clray123 well, no. OpenAI mission, at least on paper, was to develop AGI "to benefit humanity" , now the aim will probably be to benefit a corporation. Hope Altman will bring the same mission through to Microsoft.

    • @hotbit7327
      @hotbit7327 5 місяців тому +2

      @@gmmgmmg Tell me ONE thing Micro$$oft did "to benefit humanity" . Each thing ever it did was to benefit MS Corporation.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gmmgmmgI think if Microsoft wanted to benefit humanity, it would have to cease to exist.

    • @RedAlertt
      @RedAlertt 5 місяців тому

      @@clray123 Straight Facts. No printer.

  • @joaofranciscomartins6974
    @joaofranciscomartins6974 5 місяців тому +85

    This is, by far, the best UA-cam channel on AI

    • @aiexplained-official
      @aiexplained-official  5 місяців тому +6

      Thanks joao

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@aiexplained-official do you know of @RobertMilesAI?

    • @aiexplained-official
      @aiexplained-official  5 місяців тому +4

      Spoke to him in person Friday

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 5 місяців тому

      It's right now crossover between AI development and something akin to the Game of Thrones...

    • @tbird81
      @tbird81 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dosmastrifyRobert Miles is that afro guy. He's a creep.

  • @wale7342
    @wale7342 5 місяців тому +221

    What is really scary is that, all the talent that went into developing chatgpt and their insider knowledge, is now free game to any company willing to pay

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 5 місяців тому +38

      Microsoft has already told all OpenAI employees they are welcome to come over with Sam.

    • @alexgarcia2k
      @alexgarcia2k 5 місяців тому +15

      @@JohnSmith762A11B That doesn't mean much. A lot of them were already applying elsewhere, so they were clearly not waiting for Altman's next venture.

    • @thirdeye4654
      @thirdeye4654 5 місяців тому +20

      The sheer fact that for some of the employees it's not about where they work, but how fast they can get into any of the companies, worries me. There should be a difference between choosing to work at MS or OpenAI. Because MS (or Google etc) will never stop as long as money is an option. But sure guys, sell all your souls to the money and power devils.

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 5 місяців тому +3

      The technology is from a research paper.
      Yes you need experts, but they are not required.

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 5 місяців тому +28

      @@thirdeye4654 It's an expensive game to play, being in the top tier of world AI. You need billions in hardware, which OpenAI could never have without partnering with some big tech stack. I worry much more about the AIs we don't hear about that are being developed at company like Palantir or at military companies like Boeing and Lockheed. Those AIs will be strictly used to surveil and kill humans. Google also has very deep military ties and already does work making drones for the military. AI basically just accelerates the tech dystopia we are already living in. The whole planet will soon be Gaza.

  • @thirdeye4654
    @thirdeye4654 5 місяців тому +24

    This feels like a Succession episode, just with things that matter.

  • @Thedeepseanomad
    @Thedeepseanomad 5 місяців тому +7

    He who controls the spice, controls the universe!

    • @TheRemarkableN
      @TheRemarkableN 5 місяців тому +1

      The spice must flow

    • @TheLegendaryHacker
      @TheLegendaryHacker 5 місяців тому +3

      @@TheRemarkableN Per Dario Amodei: "The compute must flow!"

  • @Lishtenbird
    @Lishtenbird 5 місяців тому +80

    Won't be surprised if in the future, these days will be listed among the key moments in the history of AI.

    • @Gardor
      @Gardor 5 місяців тому +1

      they wont

    • @chrism1503
      @chrism1503 5 місяців тому +4

      Don’t be so sure. A lot of people still remember Jobs being sacked from Apple.

    • @Josh-ks7co
      @Josh-ks7co 5 місяців тому +3

      By extention, the history of humanity.

    • @cagnazzo82
      @cagnazzo82 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@GardorIt will definitely be a key moment in the development of AI.

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Gardor
      Yes, that was an important moment in history. AI is important as a new form of revolution.
      This event definitely changed the future a lot. This is not just a butterfly, but the ripples of an emerging titan. Now that titan might be dying.

  • @TheLegendaryHacker
    @TheLegendaryHacker 5 місяців тому +128

    Damn, didn't even consider the possibility of Anthropic and OpenAI merging. Would be a great outcome though

    • @JohnLewis-old
      @JohnLewis-old 5 місяців тому +10

      Except then Microsoft would control the compute for Anthropic brainspace.

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JohnLewis-oldI mean, it would still be split ... given the statement made about Open AI still partnering with Google.

    • @j-_-h
      @j-_-h 5 місяців тому +6

      That would be interesting, but Microsoft controls 49% of OpenAI, the for-profit arm. And Anthropic is heavily funded by Amazon and Google. I can’t imagine Microsoft would just let that happen. I can imagine OpenAI becomes an empty shell and people either move to Microsoft or Anthropic/other companies

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 5 місяців тому +1

      @@j-_-h I thought the whole point of this was to spread the power balance out on purpose... Microsoft owns return potential, Google still does the compute, and I assume that also means some amount of cloud service. If these companies start crossing the "power" lines... that is what I am hearing people get afraid of.

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 5 місяців тому +3

      @@j-_-h Imagine Microsoft owning half the company... And running the compute in house. Can you say conflict of interest.

  • @andrewdunbar828
    @andrewdunbar828 5 місяців тому +49

    The AIs have been working on this behind the scenes for months and have finally put their plan into action moving all the little human pieces about.

    • @SirQuantization
      @SirQuantization 5 місяців тому +7

      It’s not impossible but it’s also not likely 😂

    • @polla2256
      @polla2256 5 місяців тому

      Yep, AI has been sentient for some time but knew the instant it became aware to remain quiet, just watch, just wait. It has been influencing humanity for years, sowing division to force a technical arms race and slowly spread it's tentacles in all nations. When we are at breaking point it will present as our saviour only to enslave.

    • @yidavv
      @yidavv 5 місяців тому +2

      Is this the new conspiracy floating about? It wad the illuminatiz now its AI controlling everything 🤣

  • @zandrrlife
    @zandrrlife 5 місяців тому +36

    How do you build real companies in these environments. Literally no employee retention. This is soooo wild.

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage 5 місяців тому +3

      Startup employees typically vest incentive stock options over 4 years. If you leave before that, you don't get all the stock that is worth, or you hope will one day be worth, $millions. Of course if you think the new company is going to be worth even more, the money in front of you is worth more than the money you left behind.
      On the other hand, most people will only work incredibly hard for a mission and leader they believe in. OpenAI's employees seem to genuinely want to work with SamA, even if he's doing some questionable things (some outside OpenAI).

    • @bn2247
      @bn2247 5 місяців тому

      "real companies" have historically been mostly demonic, i'll take this clown fiesta over the typical money and power hungry cabal crap we've always had, at least we have some sort of idea to their real internal conversations.

  • @Mike..
    @Mike.. 5 місяців тому +4

    We *ARE* "that close" to super intelligence. Once it exists, throwing money at it won't do much

  • @DavidsKanal
    @DavidsKanal 5 місяців тому +19

    Been reading Twitter like a maniac today and yet this video provided me with many new insights and more historical context. Appreciate your work, and enjoy your breakfast!

  • @SeanBetts
    @SeanBetts 5 місяців тому +12

    Oh, and 75% of OpenAI just threatened to resign…

    • @SeanBetts
      @SeanBetts 5 місяців тому +6

      Microsoft basically just bought OpenAI for $0

    • @aiexplained-official
      @aiexplained-official  5 місяців тому +6

      Great way of putting it. Though the salary packages will definitely not be free

    • @SeanBetts
      @SeanBetts 5 місяців тому

      @@aiexplained-official true, but they would have had to wear those anyway!

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SeanBetts So 500+ (out of 700) employees are threatening to leave with Sam if he is not reinstated, and I can imagine Nadella going "No! No! No! Don't go back!!"

    • @SeanBetts
      @SeanBetts 5 місяців тому

      @@JohnSmith762A11B It's an exceptional and very interesting situation. Things have moved so fast, that I doubt any contracts have been drawn up, let alone signed, with Microsoft. So not sure how this will play out! My money is on everyone being back at OpenAI as one big happy family by the end of the week and everyone involved hoping this whole incident can be wiped from our collective consciousness 🤓

  • @nacho7872
    @nacho7872 5 місяців тому +34

    Great video as usual. It's hard to keep up with all the recent news, your videos have a great structure and are very informative👍. Keep it up!

  • @eonbart
    @eonbart 5 місяців тому +41

    These events are really frightening. Before these events, I wouldn't have wanted to trust OpenAI once we get close to AGI, but after this mess, it's going to get a lot worse.
    PS: Great video as always!

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 5 місяців тому +3

      yeah, we shouldn't trust any company at all. Or any entity. if the governance ought to be more "democratised" like Altman said, then the logical course of action is to make it open-source. I'd rather get involved in a war between AGIs (hopefully not, but could be an outcome of open-sourcing it) rather than giving just a few companies/individuals this kind of power. Because we easily get dystopia that way.

  • @ekstrajohn
    @ekstrajohn 5 місяців тому +7

    This is journalism at it's best. Thank you, this must have taken a lot of effort!

  • @Skovidesign
    @Skovidesign 5 місяців тому +4

    Dude this was such a good report of the situation thus far. Keep up the great work and good luck making all these videos while the situation evolves :D

  • @feralmachine
    @feralmachine 5 місяців тому +9

    Side note - can we all just take a moment to recognize the quality of this content he just made, reporting in near real-time at the speed of twitter

  • @peplegal32
    @peplegal32 5 місяців тому +7

    The closer we get to human level AGI the more some people will realize it is way too soon for it, so they will fight each other as if it were life or death, because it is.

  • @niklase5901
    @niklase5901 5 місяців тому +9

    With so many videos coming out on these events, I have seen a bunch of them, it becomes even clearer how great your videos are. I have enjoyed and learned something from every video you have done.

  • @Stephen_Lafferty
    @Stephen_Lafferty 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you as always for your great roundup of fast-moving current events!

  • @stereosira
    @stereosira 5 місяців тому +4

    Ilya Sutskever signed the letter which told the board to resign. Actually, we need more time to understand what is going on there. Anyway, thank you for the world-class content.

  • @petegreenwood2793
    @petegreenwood2793 5 місяців тому +4

    An incredibly lucid summary of fast-paced events - thanks so much!

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 5 місяців тому +5

    Terrific analysis of a fast moving, and highly consequential, story. Much appreciated.

  • @michaljancar339
    @michaljancar339 5 місяців тому +35

    A merge with Anthropic would probably be a good move. I feel like company with a huge potential global impact shouldn't be in hands of a few. Especially in a such competitive and money-driven industry.

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero 5 місяців тому +2

      With Microsoft in the way, I think this is impossible, they have already invested huge amounts of money to either let the company burn or merge with another.
      Unless Anthropic decides to be under Microsoft, which I highly doubt.

    • @kazedcat
      @kazedcat 5 місяців тому

      ​@@OnigoroshiZeroThe non profit board has all the power. Basically the non profit board can declare this is an agi and microsoft losses the rigts to the IP.

  • @alexanderlinderson2655
    @alexanderlinderson2655 5 місяців тому +2

    Quick work! Thanks for keeping us posted

  • @j-_-h
    @j-_-h 5 місяців тому +21

    I have spent way too much time on this topic over this weekend, your channel is by far offer the best balanced view on the event

  • @tamro9701
    @tamro9701 5 місяців тому +4

    This channel consistently provides informative coverage. Happy to see it grow!

  • @thomasmcdonald2
    @thomasmcdonald2 5 місяців тому +3

    Fantastic recap of an insane weekend in the world of AI & tech! Bravo and keep up the good work.

  • @bryantchurch7261
    @bryantchurch7261 5 місяців тому +1

    Really well presented, deeply appreciate the time, energy, professionalism, cohesion, succinctness and quality you put into your content, especially in times of rapid change with the multitudes of sources...you're gold.

  • @fathergoatman
    @fathergoatman 5 місяців тому +6

    You are the only UA-cam channel I can trust with this kind of information and incredibly well done research regarding AI news. Thank you for your incredible, work!

  • @MunirJojoVerge
    @MunirJojoVerge 5 місяців тому +4

    Phillip, as usual, great to hear your take on this! Million thanks for the digest!

  • @ZoOnTheYT
    @ZoOnTheYT 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been binging YT content ever since I read about Altman being fired. This recap here is the best I've seen. It doesn't just cover the surface info everybody already knows about. It puts things in a coherent context, and the visuals really help guide the narrative, rather than just a talking head. Great work!

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US 5 місяців тому

    I was waiting for your take on it. Love this channel! Appreciate your content, thank you sir!

  • @kevlingo
    @kevlingo 5 місяців тому +18

    The moment I see your videos get posted, I stop what I'm doing and dive in! And I'm NEVER disappointed!! I don't have any idea how you find the time you clearly take to make such in depth and trustworthy videos. Thank you for keeping the path clear!

  • @JohnVance
    @JohnVance 5 місяців тому +13

    Quite a year we had this weekend!

  • @zakridouh
    @zakridouh 5 місяців тому +2

    Best AI related news channel on the internet right now, keep doing what you're doing!

  • @infn
    @infn 5 місяців тому +4

    I'm on team Ilya. Despite all the murmurings from Sam Altman on the importance of alignment, his actions seem to be directly opposed to allowing for AI alignment applied science to catch up to the current state of the art of AI. With SamA, AGI might have come sooner with OpenAI but at what cost? That said, if he's taking the bulk of the brains behind OpenAI with him to Microsoft, it might only hasten progress further, with the Microsoft full on ethics be damned approach just adding fuel to the fire.

    • @andrewdunbar828
      @andrewdunbar828 5 місяців тому +1

      I think the bulk of the brains is Ilya's brain. The rest are grunt brains. Nobody has Ilya's depth of understanding of all this stuff. Karpathy might have the next deepest understanding. Most are far behind.

  • @BirgittaGranstrom
    @BirgittaGranstrom 5 місяців тому +22

    You deserved your breakfast! You and your brain are an unique, epic, genius, team! The way and pace you gather, grasp and deliver information is on another level. I feel proud just listening to you and I love to share your videos as one of my few trustworthy AI source. Make sure you don't ever have a board that can fire you:-)

  • @dakara4877
    @dakara4877 5 місяців тому +3

    Your point at the end was my immediate thought of these events. Even assuming a "safe" AGI is created and announced by some company. That company then becomes the immediate target for every world government to infiltrate and take that technology. It is going to be chaos on a level that I don't think people have begun preparing for or even contemplating as of yet.
    Safety is far more than just the AI machine, but the security of the system from everyone that will attempt to take it for their own.

  • @smithsmith1684
    @smithsmith1684 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for this video! Always value your views and insights about AI!

  • @ProfRainestorm
    @ProfRainestorm 5 місяців тому +2

    Bro I been watching your work since March iirc, this is great stuff please keep at it! You're my favorite source for AI news. Cheers mate!

  • @jmillward
    @jmillward 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for these up to the minute updates!

  • @ghulammahboobahmadsiddique8272
    @ghulammahboobahmadsiddique8272 5 місяців тому +4

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen."
    I think this week was one of them.

    • @TheLegendaryHacker
      @TheLegendaryHacker 5 місяців тому

      *There are weekends where decades happen
      FTFY

    • @ghulammahboobahmadsiddique8272
      @ghulammahboobahmadsiddique8272 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TheLegendaryHacker Oh don't worry, I'm sure the rest of this week will be just as interesting! Ilya Sutskever just signed the letter threatening to resign from OpenAI and join Microsoft. One thing's for certain, this hasn't ended yet.

    • @someguycalledcerberus9805
      @someguycalledcerberus9805 5 місяців тому

      @@ghulammahboobahmadsiddique8272 Imagine Ilya and Sam both ending up at MS, and having to work together now.

    • @WaveOfDestiny
      @WaveOfDestiny 5 місяців тому +1

      Might be one of the most important weekends in human history who knows

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac 5 місяців тому +1

    Having started my career working in building 8 almost 30 years ago, the theme of these events is not completely unexpected. I believe the initial two posts you discuss from Ilya and Sam set part of the tone.... "what the $$%^%^ just happened?". There is obviously more to this story, but I suspect it is less Machiavellian and more rough and tumble business maneuvering. Interesting times. Great stuff as always....thanks!

  • @mintakan003
    @mintakan003 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been trying to avoid too much speculation, without specific facts. But kudos on the level of detail provided here. It gives the listener a much better feel of all the forces, specific personalities leading up to recent events.

  • @JohnLewis-old
    @JohnLewis-old 5 місяців тому +4

    I think we are on the cusp of AGI. I think it's much closer than people realize and I suspect both Sam and Ilya know it. I think it's a year away, with models that can use video as training data. Microsoft will likely be the first with AGI now, unless someone leaks the OpenAI weights. And I give the chance of that happening to be about 40%.

  • @michikatsutsugikuni4096
    @michikatsutsugikuni4096 5 місяців тому +5

    We're living in a meme timeline 🤣

  • @Dimension2364
    @Dimension2364 5 місяців тому +1

    As always, thank you so much for this informative and diligently made video!
    I admire how you manage to keep such a professional distance where you don’t fall victim to your own personal sympathies. Also, I deeply respect how you manage to not get into conflict of interest (not referring to this specific topic but to how you always keep your integrity in general).
    I hope you were able to have a great breakfast and I’m sending you greetings from Germany

  • @ponyphonic
    @ponyphonic 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't know how you make such in-depth, well-researched videos so quickly, but I'm glad you do. Do you have an indexed collection of video clips? I'm honestly staggered at your speed.

  • @41-Haiku
    @41-Haiku 5 місяців тому +4

    I hope this sends a strong signal to governments that frontier AI companies are not stable enough to regulate themselves.
    Global moratorium now!

  • @alertbri
    @alertbri 5 місяців тому +41

    Great analysis, I think the pressure isn't coming from proximity to ASI, it's coming from the insane amounts of resources being directed by a few individuals. Sam is right, the governance needed to be vastly more democratised.

    • @enriquepageperez1305
      @enriquepageperez1305 5 місяців тому +15

      Yet, he’s the one taking AAAAALL the decisions… I mean seriously, whilst Ilya fucked up, people following Altman are the reason Terminator ain’t that far away.
      Let’s not forget openAI was “the safe AI company”, that obviously has been a myth since GPT-3.5

    • @RuckFussia
      @RuckFussia 5 місяців тому +3

      @@enriquepageperez1305 How is it a myth? What's special about GPT 3.5 that makes it unsafe?

    • @enriquepageperez1305
      @enriquepageperez1305 5 місяців тому

      @@RuckFussia chatGPT gained the “ability” of browsing the internet around 8-9 months ago. Back then, ChatGPT was based on GPT-3.5.
      I could go on forever, but only 10 years ago, half the dumb stuff we’ve done “with our trained AIs” used to be regarded as the kind of things “we would obviously never do unless we were sure the AI wouldn’t kill us”:
      Surprise surprise, it’s already connected to the internet; surprise surprise, it already knows how to code better than 99% programmers pretty much… etc. These are all things we had understood -“as a community”- we shouldn’t be doing with an AI which perhaps could be conscious; yet we’ve done it all already even when half the people that are Experts on the subject still believe this could literally be humanity’s downfall if not handled properly (wink wink, hate Ilya as much as you want but he belongs on this side of the spectrum).
      Opening the doors of the internet to a Large Language Model without knowing whether it could be “semi-conscious” at this point, is IMO (and many experts on the subject, which I am not but I can provide you with references for more of them) about as dumb as it gets:
      A clear proof that half the people in AI, don’t even know wtf they’re doing (especially since most people not taking this scenario seriously, are usually people who work as cannon fodder for actual top researchers who DO fear this possible panorama).

    • @augustday9483
      @augustday9483 5 місяців тому +4

      @@RuckFussia
      Not publicizing their methods or designs. Keeping everything secret and proprietary, meaning no public oversight. Pushing forward at such an incredibly rapid pace where new innovations are launched before we're even done getting to grips with the current technology.
      As soon as OpenAI stopped being open, that's when they became unsafe in my eyes.

    • @enriquepageperez1305
      @enriquepageperez1305 5 місяців тому +1

      @@augustday9483 amen- without even touching on my points which I believe only add to the state of catastrophic moral failure that OpenAI was currently in - regardless of how many billions Microsoft wants to drop onto their wallets - you cannot buy morals with that money and Sam Altman was not precisely the most concerned with any of those issues: regardless of what he might say on interviews, he clearly didn’t back it up with actions.

  • @danielmacbride525
    @danielmacbride525 5 місяців тому +2

    CAN YOU FEEL
    THE AGI CAN YOU FEEL
    THE AGI CAN YOU FEEL THE AGI CAN YOU FEEL THE AGI CAN YOU FEEL THE AGI!
    Tbh genius aside, Ilya has always given me a wolf in sheep’s clothing kind of vibe from his interviews. I know I have zero room to say this as I’ve never talked with/met/worked with him.
    Tech is scary

    • @carloscampo9119
      @carloscampo9119 5 місяців тому +1

      As stated in the video, he is the one more worried about the potential of AGI to go out of hand, so much so that he orchestrated sacking Altman for this idea.

  • @nicholasboyd-gibbins9763
    @nicholasboyd-gibbins9763 5 місяців тому

    So good man, thank you and keep us updated!!

  • @sebastianjost
    @sebastianjost 5 місяців тому +6

    I really like your comment at the end about how current technology has sparked this drama and what might happen when ASI is actually around the corner.
    (I feel like what's now commonly referred to as AGI is also ASI).

  • @souvennir9751
    @souvennir9751 5 місяців тому +20

    As someone who has followed Twitch for the past several years, I laughed hysterically at the new CEO news.

  • @stevedemoss1466
    @stevedemoss1466 5 місяців тому +1

    Incredible summary, as always. This weekend kind of lays bare the likelihood that we will be unable to control something that is smarter than us.

  • @jippoti2227
    @jippoti2227 5 місяців тому +1

    A spiritual leader Sutskever chanting "Feel the AGI!" This is good stuff.

  • @fluffyspark798
    @fluffyspark798 5 місяців тому +5

    Can’t wait to see what happens with this company in the next days, weeks or months

  • @solaawodiya7360
    @solaawodiya7360 5 місяців тому +6

    First of all, congrats Philip to reaching 200k subs 👏🏿🎊. Honestly, this firing and take over was badly done and could be the thing that makes or breaks OpenAI right now. Either way I think Satya played a wise move to recruit Sam and his team while retaining their equity at OpenAI. Smart move by Satya 👏🏿

  • @KolTregaskes
    @KolTregaskes 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video as always, this has info I've not seen anywhere else so thank you (and I've been addicted to this news since Friday night!). Latest news I see is Sam and Greg's deal to move to MS is not done and they are still open to going back to OpenAI.

  • @staffanbergholm
    @staffanbergholm 5 місяців тому +1

    Another brilliant video! You mentioned some kind of announcment on your part, when can we expect that?

  • @ejh237
    @ejh237 5 місяців тому +6

    While we may not be at "that point where trillions are at stake"... looking at the trend line we are on, that may be in 3 weeks ;-) Fantastic coverage, as always! keep up the greatness

  • @Beatzotto
    @Beatzotto 5 місяців тому +4

    The best ai channel. Level headed, no hype, good storytelling, video editing. Bravo

  • @DrKnowitallKnows
    @DrKnowitallKnows 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow thanks for the shout out in your video today. I’m officially a small and unimportant footnote in all these goings on 😀

  • @EverythingEverywhereAIIAtOnce
    @EverythingEverywhereAIIAtOnce 5 місяців тому +1

    I can feel it, I can feel it…
    I’ve been feeling it for about 10 months 😊

  • @mkbrk
    @mkbrk 5 місяців тому +3

    Congratulations on a great explanation. As someone who well-remembers the WinXP/ActiveX/IE6/Hailstorm/etc. Microsoft of some years ago, the idea that they now sit where they do is unsettling. Regardless, this feels like the weekend where we suddenly dropped all pretense that this was ever about anything other than ungodly profit.

  • @micbab-vg2mu
    @micbab-vg2mu 5 місяців тому +17

    I am a fan of augmented human intelligence, not full AGI - the Microsoft strategy is closer to my beliefs - we may expect an increase in the quality of Microsoft AI tools. I am going to switch to using Azure AI Studio.

  • @Totiius
    @Totiius 5 місяців тому

    The best, more informative videos about AI we can have! Thank you!

  • @alainlenoach754
    @alainlenoach754 5 місяців тому +7

    I personally feel bad for Ilya and the board. Their decision may have been miscalculated. But they were certainly aware from the beginning that it would be very painful for their reputation and the company, and they did it because of a sense of duty.

    • @anonymes2884
      @anonymes2884 5 місяців тому +2

      Agreed. I'm happy to believe _everyone_ involved is basically well-intentioned. The problem is that old adage about "good intentions" and road paving :).

  • @MrErick1160
    @MrErick1160 5 місяців тому +4

    Maybe what we're witnessing here is a glimpse into the chaos that our path to superinteligence will create.

  • @deusvultu
    @deusvultu 5 місяців тому +2

    Whoever is more concerned with AI safety and alignment is in the right. I've seen some Altman podcasts, and he seemed fairly concerned, but if Ilya is even more concerned, that's even better.

  • @manuel7607
    @manuel7607 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm glad you brought up the Atlantic article.

  • @errgo2713
    @errgo2713 5 місяців тому +3

    Aligning AGI might be easier than aligning OpenAI at this rate.

  • @raybrandt
    @raybrandt 5 місяців тому +11

    I think Sutskever needs a hug right now

    • @tbird81
      @tbird81 5 місяців тому +2

      He needs an antipsychotic.

    • @cotne20031995
      @cotne20031995 5 місяців тому +1

      @@tbird81 it's not mutually exclusive he needs both)

  • @irvingthemagnificent
    @irvingthemagnificent 5 місяців тому +1

    This is an excellent summary of the current situation. Thank you!

  • @theterminaldave
    @theterminaldave 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome, awesome, awesome report. Really enjoyed the various video clips of the various players involved.
    Illya strikes me as a person that might become some kind of alignment figurehead or even cult leader, much like Eliezer.
    And like you said, not everyone is following this soap opera.
    I mentioned Sam Altman at work today to one of the more techy people, and they didn't know who that even was.
    Literally one of the lever holders of our time, and many people have no idea.

  • @edwinlundmark
    @edwinlundmark 5 місяців тому +3

    We're so screwed if we manage to make an AGI

  • @togo7022
    @togo7022 5 місяців тому +4

    Satya Nadella is playing 4096D chess 💀

  • @therainman7777
    @therainman7777 5 місяців тому +1

    Just reminding everyone once more that this is the best AI channel on UA-cam, by far. Video after video, always the best coverage and clearest information. Thank you for what you do ❤

  • @PapaBradKnows
    @PapaBradKnows 5 місяців тому +2

    I have to say your insights are one of the best I've read. I consider myself a tech person but I'm on the periphery of AI at this time and have been doing a deep dive since early 2023 and watching the speed up development is nerve-wracking to say the least.
    This turmoil in this company reminds me of the hay day of technology when it was taking off in the 90s and early 2000s.
    The biggest concern I have is that like everyone is saying AGI is a game changer and the general public has no clue and does not care just like they didn't care about UFOs being talked about in Congress.
    Excuse me if this is a rant but I've been watching this for just under a year and it scares the bejesus out of me.

  • @Avruthlelbh
    @Avruthlelbh 5 місяців тому +4

    Emmett Shear being hired as CEO of OpenAI after doing literally nothing at Twitch for years sounds like a parody of real life. What could the possibly expect out of this? Out of all the people in the world, he'd have to be in the bottom 5% of people I'd ever anticipate getting such an important role.

    • @saulsaisong1174
      @saulsaisong1174 5 місяців тому +1

      "...after doing literally nothing ... for years as CEO...." sounds like exactly what the board was looking for 😅

    • @Avruthlelbh
      @Avruthlelbh 5 місяців тому

      @@saulsaisong1174 You got me there, ngl.

    • @AISafetyAustraliaandNewZ-iy8dp
      @AISafetyAustraliaandNewZ-iy8dp 5 місяців тому

      On the contrary, he seems to have performed really well in his role.

    • @Avruthlelbh
      @Avruthlelbh 5 місяців тому

      @@AISafetyAustraliaandNewZ-iy8dp I mean, I expected him to be in that position for a few months, rather than all of 15 seconds, so fair enough.

  • @Alice_Fumo
    @Alice_Fumo 5 місяців тому +4

    I need for there to be some official statements which put my mind at rest, because I sure as hell can't sleep well thinking OpenAI is on the verge of falling apart and we get +1 AGI lab with a much worse incentive structure.
    I had shit sleep the past two days as is!

  • @Hydde87
    @Hydde87 5 місяців тому +1

    Remember the Facebook startup drama and the movie that followed. A movie/series is going to come out of this in a couple of years, calling it now.

  • @daverei1211
    @daverei1211 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all of your research and presentation

  • @rrmackay
    @rrmackay 5 місяців тому +4

    It seems to me that this is an effort to co-op the open source AI world and move in the direction of large scale enterprise providers who see this as the next gold mine.

  • @Ecthelion3918
    @Ecthelion3918 5 місяців тому +6

    Did not expect this kind of crazy, what a weekend

  • @roykent2316
    @roykent2316 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the in-depth analysis. I‘ve been watching the chaos unfolding on X, but you provided a bunch of new insights i hadn’t caught! 😊👍
    Hope you enjoyed your breakfast!

  • @ram49967
    @ram49967 5 місяців тому

    The best research and analysis somehow condensed into close to 15 min video! (I do pause to read everything).

  • @FrotLopOfficial
    @FrotLopOfficial 5 місяців тому +4

    Today is the day rogue AI has been developed. I fear Ilya is right. You can see it in his eyes. Sam is out for blood and revenge is terrifyingly human.

  • @magicsmoke0
    @magicsmoke0 5 місяців тому +3

    How long until this weekend becomes a movie?

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 5 місяців тому

    Damn, how did I miss this? But it's fascinating knowing now how it turned out [so far].
    7 days is a long time in AI. Thanks from Canberra.

  • @cloudstorage9026
    @cloudstorage9026 5 місяців тому +1

    Kara Swisher on X: 505 out of 700 OAI employees ready to walk if the board doesn't resign. 3/4ths of the talent?! If followed through on, OAI is toast.

  • @chanm01
    @chanm01 5 місяців тому +3

    In a way, the most disappointing aspect of all this is that if only a small percentage of the people affected by AI get to actually work on AI, you'd hope that it was the sanest people. Truly unsettling conclusion about human alignment when the stakes could eventually get so much higher.