@@maple7093 one is not considered a prime. By definition, a prime is a natural number which can only be divided by two natural numbers without a remainder, itself and one. In the case of one both itself and one are the same number it is only divisible by a single number without a reminder, making it not a prime.
@@Mythologylover431Dave Miller aka William Afton aka Purple Guy aka Aubergine man aka Bill aka Spring trap aka Scrap trap aka Burn trap aka Glitchtrap Is not the Crying Child
I have 0 problem with anyone referring to Crying Child as "Evan" for simplicity's sake, or in their own headcanon, whatever. I know who you're talking about, it's cool. But GUYS. It's not confirmed canon - and it's DEFINITELY not canon enough to SPAM CREATORS telling them they were "wrong" for referring to the character only with their canon name. Take a deep breath and move on, gosh dang- Anyway, really interesting video! Ive never read the security logbook myself and I do NOT have a head for numbers or obscure puzzles, so seeing you break down each "solution" and explain how they got there and why it doesn't exactly work was fascinating
This, exactly this!!! Dont Go after people over your headcanon! Like IT makes Sense with batsy being a Bad parent for example, since that IS Canon but Holding him acountable in a way Canon does Not . . . .Like calling a Guy a good parent after He beat His traumatised recovering Kid into the ground to force him into a suicide Mission and cutting of all His support . . . .thats Just bs, ITS Impossible to do that to your child and BE a good parent No Matter how Canon tried to come Back from that and pretending Like there IS IS harmful with real world consequences. But the Name Even IS in No way shape or Form Canon! IT does Not have real world implications whatever you use IT or Not! There IS No Fight tonbe faught over that, nothing to defend Just believe IT or not
THANK YOU. I always refer to him as Evan because, as you said, it's more simple. Plus I was there when the name was first "discovered" in the logbook and just got too used to it. Even though it's kinda annoying to be clarifying all the time I'm aware it's not canon everytime I refer to the kid by that name.
Maybe the foxy grid puzzle was purposely made incomplete because the crying child remains incomplete. William was never able to find all the pieces, so we’re missing some pieces too. So the name of the crying child will never be revealed, like how the FNAF 4 box will never be opened.
This might actually be true... Unless he runs out of ideas to keep giving more plot twists to the Afton era of the lore and finally spills the beans lol. However I still like to refer to CC as Evan, but that's personal.
Honestly the whole Evan thing always felt like a card force, and every answer kind of feels like looking for an expected answer. We don’t really even know if it’s really supposed to be a name. Just taking a step back from what the community has decided, the prompt and the page kinda feel like it’s asking for a nonogram to make an 8-bit image, it just needs a key. Maybe the 2-4-5 sequence from the tally marks? Idk, not my area, it just seems like potentially a totally different puzzle than we all think. Alternatively, if you had a cannon 8-bit image of foxy that wasn’t totally arbitrary, you could reverse engineer an answer from the nonogram key that would make it, but that’s pretty forced too.
The 8-bit Foxy that comes to mind is Michael himself with the foxy mask, but he has a few different sprites. There's also the "Foxy Go! Go! Go!" minigame Foxy, the "Follow Me" minigame Foxy... I suck with numbers and puzzles so I don't know how you'd incorporate those sprites into puzzle form, or how you'd decide where to put them on the grid, but I don't know how many people have tried using those
@@drawingdragon yeah, that’s the problem with working backwards, what sprite you use also feels arbitrary. But it being a nonogram would make a lot of sense in context, they’re really popular in Japanese puzzle books, like Sudoku, rather than being an advanced cryptography technique. If you’ve ever seen a picross game it’s the same thing.
@@drawingdragon Ok but at least sticking to a sprite at all would be something that isnt subjective/arbitrary, just check each sprite to see which ones give something coherent. Then again I guess *where* its placed would still be arbitrary... Unless there's a sprite which has a height that perfectly matches the grid, then make sure its centered, and only if that comes out with something coherent would I say it works.
Objectively Garrett is the closest we’ve gotten he’s the closest thing to another confirmed appearance the bite victim has had in 9 years bro is so popular for WHAT
@@SCP-469 She is the only spirit we can confirm communicating with both Michael and CC. She's asking questions relevant to happiest day in the logbook, not ranting about murder.
Part of the reason the Evan theory took off wasn’t just because of the “solution” to the logbook puzzle, it was also because there is a character named Evan in the Fazbear Frights books. In the books, Evan has a child named Jake who is leading a suspiciously similar life to the crying child, and Evan has a brother named Mike.
I mean I wouldn't say Jake is anything like the crying child other that the fact the two have a mysterious doll friend with a radio inside that their dad uses to communicate with them. Jake circumstances are completely different to the ones the crying child was under. Similar character parallels ( and I'd argue stronger ones) are present all across the Fazbear Frights books such as Bob and his family in Bunny Call and Hudson in What WE Found but none of those characters share a name with the character they are paralleling. Also there are a lot of Mikes in the Book series. Therefore I don't consider this good evidence in support of the crying child being named Evan.
I haven't played any of the FNAF games or read the books, but I think people are overthinking it and should treat the books and games as separate. Besides the crying child's name is most likely Cassidy and his soul is most likely broken in two.
“People should treat the games and books as separate” we literally got the name “William Afton” for the Purple Guy from the books before it was confirmed in Sister Location.
There's a recent video that suggests that "I'm Scared" is responding to "Do you have dreams?" on page 41, which would give a 'D'. Now, while "Evad" is not a name, the issue comes from assuming that these letters are in the correct order to begin with, because after all, there's no actual indication of which letter comes first. People just assume that the first 3 are E-V-A because the original theorizer arranged them that way in order to force "Evan" to fit. If we instead flip them around however, we get the name "Dave", which just so happens to be the alias that William used when posing as a security guard in The Silver Eyes. We're also 99.99% sure that William is hired as the first guard in FNaF 2 under a fake name, so that got me thinking, what if he used the same alias in the games as he did in the novel trilogy, and what if that alias (at least in the games) was the name of his dead son? *mind blown*
Your reasoning of everything is solid. Think it shows well how the community takes theories for granted without fact checking themselves too often. I will say i am still quite fond of the CCs name being Evan not only for the fact that even in the original post theres multiple ways that people have found the name but one more compelling reason you hadnt mentioned. Almost exactly 3 years after the release of the Logbook, the Fazbears Frights book "Blackbird" released in which there is a story (The Real Jake) which topic-wise parallels CC and includes someone with an older brother named Micheal, with the name "Evan". Quite a big coincidence, no? Well still, its not confirmed so it stays more of a headcanon for now i guess. Thoughts?
and yet the movie contradicts this with Garret being the first to die. I really doubt those books were meant to tell us much. Fazbear frights seems to just be a fun stories off shoot. Scott told us before that the books were not in the same continuity of the games but no one what's to listen so 🤷♀
@@777SilverPhoenix777i mean, the movie also changed Elizabeth's name to Abby, along with a lot of other changes (like Mike and his siblings not being Afton's kids) so we shouldn't take every information on the movie so literally
Alright everyone, I've done some digging and I think I found something very promising, but I need some help figuring out if I'm on to something, or it's just a coincidence. Throughout the book, there are 4 different pages with coupons on them that I sort of closed over in the video, but I think they might actually be the key to cracking the foxy grid! The Foxy grid has 45 columns and 28 rows before there's a line break. So, it stands to reason that the number we need to plug in for the horizontal coordinate should be between 1 and 45, and the vertical should be between 1 and 28, or else we'd need to do some complicated looping around stuff. Well, I was looking more at the coupons that appear on 4 separate pages throughout the book, which list all the stuff you can get with the coupons (two pizzas, 4 cupcakes, 20 game tokens, stuff like that). The largest quantity of stuff you can get from a coupon is 45 ride tokens from the coupon called Foxy's Pirate-Palooza. Every other item on one of these coupons is somewhere between 1 and 45, the exact number of columns on the grid. Each coupon also has a dollar amount that you can save, ranging from 4 to 16, which would all fit in the vertical range! So my thought was maybe that you need to use the number of items you can get with the coupon as the horizontal coordinate, and the value of the coupon as the vertical! Besides just being able to fit in the grid perfectly, more evidence for this being the correct solution is on the final coupon, where Mike has written "For real value, see page 61". This page is the one with the half finished comic with a blackboard that has 4+5 and 3 written on it, meaning that the true value of this coupon should be 3, 9, or 12 if you added them all together. This leads me to believe that the values of these coupons have to be significant, or else why would they bother telling us that the final coupon's value is wrong? So, I tried doing just that, turning every item on each coupon into a letter by using the number of things you get as across, and the value of the coupon down in the grid. As I started going, I noticed that sometimes the numbers are spelled out, like in the first entry where you get TWO medium pizzas with your choice of TWO toppings each. The fact that the word two is capitalized in the first coupon leads me to believe that having some written out and some with digits is significant, but it could just be a style choice. Other times the numbers are written out with simple digits. And finally, some entries don't have a number explicitly called out but have an implied quantity, like the Custom Party Kit with invitations and hats. Because these don't have a specific number, I'm not sure if they should be included or not, so I marked them in green. So, to summarize, using this method, the letters obtained from the numbers written out are: E E Y Y F F F Z Y S C O O O, and then the last one is either O O if you used 3, Y Y if you used 9, or D D if you used 12. The letters obtained from the numbers expressed with digits are: R D B J C Q Y O K T F Y B U R Y and the last one is either J if you use 3, T if you use 9, and Y if you use 12 Lastly, the letters from the implied numbers that may or may not be included are R D R B B and the last one is either MJ if you use 3, W if you use 9, and B if you use 12. Looking at these letters, I noticed that F, R, E, D, Y, and B all come up way more often than they should. Of the 43 letters (including the implied ones, and using 12 for the last coupon), there are exactly 5 B's, 5 D's, 5 F's, and 5 R's, 8 Y's, and 2 E's. So my first thought was to try to spell out "Freddy" as many times as I could, and maybe the letters that are left over spell something, but that didn't really amount to anything. I tried just unscrambling the letters all together but couldn't figure anything out. My other thought was to try and find out how much each item is actually worth based on these coupons, a lot of the items are repeated across different coupons in different amounts, so you could probably figure out how much each thing is worth, but I'm not sure how that would really help. It's also possible that you need to actually cut the coupons out and look on the backs of them or something, I have a digital version of the book so I'm not able to try it myself, but it could be something And so, I leave it to you! This all feels like it was very intentionally designed to me, the fact that it exactly matches the size of the Foxy grid, the clue in red, and the fact that the same letters repeatedly come up, but I'm not sure where to take it next. If Let me know if any of you have any ideas, though!
Update, I just tested it out, and the system of equations idea that I had is impossible. The Foxy's Pirate-Palooza coupon includes 2 unknowns that don't appear in any other equation, so finding their value would be mathematically impossible. So you probably don't need to do any math, but just turning the items into letters is still totally an option!
Peope have suggested that the "real value" is meant to tell us that FNAF 3 takes place in 2015. It's written on a $16 coupon, and if you multiply the numbers on the blackboard of the page it tells you to go to, you get $27. $16 in 1992 would be about $27 in 2015, placing the Logbook in 2015.
It does seem very deliberate. I didn't try this but is there any number that stands out in those coupons? Maybe you need to move the letters by a set value. So if it's 2 and the letter A you move it by 2 the result is C. Just a suggestion because they did this in the past
I recently watched a different video that used the "for true value" to figure out what year the book was written inside, which turned out to be 2017, so maybe you have to adjust the values of all the other coupons for inflation and use those numbers? just a thought.
@@snoodge-cv7fj They got that by using 1993 as the date of FNAF 1, which is wrong. FNAF 1 takes place in 1992 based on the days of the week that the FNAF 2 paychecks are given. If they are the same as in FNAF 1, then 1is in '92.
I think the biggest problem with the FNAF games and community as a whole is that for some of the mysteries presented, there's no real answers to them. You got mysteries like what Crying Child's real name is, who died first in the FNAf timeline (Crying Child, Charlie, Suzie, or Elizabeth), and whatever the hell Midnight Motorist is, to name a few. And it's true that hints have been provided to the solution to these mysteries, but unless a clear answer is provided to any of them, the best we can do is theorize (and many of the theories will inevitably contradict each other).
@@BoredSanDwitch and it seems pretty clear based on presentation and context clues that it's the Afton household, and crying child was the one who escaped
Right, so here are some of my observations from the book, they could be nothing, but I thought I'd throw them out, and you all can do the same! The first thing I didn't have much time to go into was the tally marks. A couple of the pages have tally marks on them in groups of 4 and 5 (actually, ever grouping of tallies is 5 except for one grouping of 4). A lot of people have connected this to a similar tally mark puzzle from Ruin, where you can find tallies carved into the walls, again in groupings of 4, 5, and 2. If these 2 puzzles are related (which isn't a guarantee), then the numbers 2, 4, and 5 have to be significant somehow. If the puzzle were a simple matter of adding up all the tallies on each page or across a row or something, then you would expect that you have an equal chance of having a group of 3 tallies or a group of 5 would be the same, so the fact that there isn't a single group of 1 or 3 tallies across either of these is significant. I'm not sure what that could mean in terms of the puzzle, but just to brainstorm some connections, the numbers 2, 4, and 5 are all the factors of the number 20 that can be expressed with tally marks (there's also 10, which is just 2 groups of 5). The number 20 is also significant in the Foxy Grid because, since there are 45 columns and 26 letters, the way it works out the 1st column and the 20th column are identical to one another (same with 2 and 21, 3 and 23, and so on). So if these 2 puzzles are connected through the tally marks, the solution could be a bit more math-intensive than everyone thought. Another thing I noticed relates to Foxy. This page has you drawing Foxy, so I decided to look into all the times Foxy appears to see if there was some pattern or something. And while I didn't find any pattern per say, I did find that Foxy appears ALL OVER this book. In fact, Foxy appears on nearly twice as many pages as Freddy, the 2nd most common character in the book. (For reference, Foxy appears on 27 pages, Freddy appears on 14, Bonnie on 13, Chica on 11, and a few of the sister location characters along with the puppet show up only a handful of times). This could just be because he's sort of the "Main Character" of the book, he's the security guard character on all the chapter art and the end of night interviews (which furthers the theory that Foxy Bro is Mike Schmidt/Afton), but even without those 10 extra instances, he would still be the most common of the core 4. A lot of the images that they use for him are reused throughout the book, so I thought maybe it was a case of using page numbers where duplicate images appear, but that doesn't seem to actually hold up, the images don't always come in pairs. It seems more likely that these were just reused images to cut down on costs, but I thought I'd throw it out there
Perhaps you could use the total number of times each character appears? Or perhaps the first number is the number of pages each character appears on and the second number is the total number of times the character appears, or vice versa. I would check it myself, but I don't actually have the book.
Actually, one funny thing you forgot(?) to mention in the video... 14:32 this DOES actually line up word for word with two OTHER instances. First, in the Novels, William states "My Name is Springtrap". Secondly, an announcement for Five Nights at Freddy's 3, titled "Early beta-testing successsful!", namely: "Five Nights at Freddy's 3 had it's first round of beta-testing the other night. I have two faithful beta-testers who always help me out (mmost of yyou probably know who they are). The game still nneeds aa lot of work of course; it's still very bare bones at the mmomeent, but the game succeeded iin making my testerss jump out of their sseats. One of the features I didn't warn them about were the **************, which they found very effective. ;) PPlus "he" was much more aggrressiive than I'd annticipated and prevented my testers from ggetting past nightt 2. All in all, however, everrything went very well aand I'm on track to release the game as pplanned. :)" Note the repeating letters, that's how we first got his name. While it likely ISNT him as you said, it's still funny how it happens to line up oddly well... As for what it could POSSIBLY mean? Presumably "Springtrap is Faded"
one idea i've seen around esp in fanfics that i don't know the source of is that Michael inspired or even directly created Foxy as a concept which would go to explain his obsession with the character and his constant association with him beyond just the connection with foxybro it might also be worth mentioning that the series has at least two Jeremy's if not as many as four which doesn't help here but does have to do with the Mike/Michael thing though i agree they're the same character i hoped that something clear would emerge with the ruin tally puzzle but that's more hoping two obscure puzzles solve each other rather than a genuine expectation. one thought i have that's probably been said before is that the games often reward inputting the numbers 1983/1987 even without giving them as a clue so i wonder if some of the info for this puzzle came from one of the games as a reward for knowing your trivia. maybe the code to get the good ending in FNAF 3? it'd work well for the top row since treating each number as singular leaves everything falling on the grid which i have a feeling is gonna be the case for whatever the final solution ends up being i just wish we knew the output for the puzzle at all, we all assume we're looking for a word which makes sense, but even just having the number of letters in the solution would be a huge help i vaguely remember the book having numbers changed by the crying child but i don't own it so i can't check easily, but if the letters in the grid are faded text then you'd think we'd get the answers from something to do with Cassidy...unless they're just using it as a homemade Ouija board for their fellow ghost sorry this is such a jumble and so sprawling, guess i was inspired by your comment to just let the ADHD do its thing lol
@@Stormageddon571 so inspired by this i used the number of times each character appeared as the down and the year 1987 as the across and i got "Aqua" which probably isn't right but it's really cool that at least one coherent response can come from that trick. that specific word would use the character order as: Foxy, Chica, Freddy, Bonnie i'd use them in the order the characters show up as drawings in the book but i don't have a copy so i had to brute force it a little i can't find anything coherent in any of the combos where the character appearances are used as the Across all possible letters for 1987 : 1983 across: A/N/U/I I/V/C/Q H/U/B/P G/T/A/O : C/P/W/K all possible letters for 1987 : 1983 down A/N/M/K W/K/J/H D/Q/P/N M/Z/Y/W : K/X/W/U
as a fnaf veteran myself and someone that's probably got a stupidly encyclopedic knowledge of every little tiny detail of this franchise and its history, first of all i wanna say you've actually done GREAT research for someone that started as a proper n00b. second of all, which probably should've been the first point, this was a great video all around. solid debunks, solid reasoning, loved it. the only thing i wanted to add was: people coining the name Evan actually didn't START from that solution to the foxy grid. to get into the weeds a bit, one of the short stories released (from the Fazbear Frights series of books) had a family in it where a character named Evan had a brother named Michael ("The Real Jake" if you'd like to read more into that, but honestly that's where the similarities of the Evan character to the CC end. it's also worth mentioning that it's not uncommon at all for scott cawthon to reuse names and throw in stuff like that, because he knows it's theory bait for the fandom). basically, a good amount of the fandom had already decided the name was canon just from that leap alone. now, this story came out in december of 2020. this makes that foxy grid solution even MORE unlikely for me, because with it being posted in february of 2021, i honestly think the person who got that result (and the resulting people accepting it being the answer) had confirmation bias, if not just looking for a way for it to come out as Evan to confirm the name for sure (no shade though! grasping for answers is what this community is all about after all, lol)
I truly believe that anything that we know now should be thrown out for this grid to work. Only what was available in the games at the time this book came out could be used. Hell I'd go as far as saying that the Ruin tally marks are either a way to give us a clue to this thing or aren't related at all. I'm leaning towards the later given the differences between the two.
too be fair Mat pointed out all the holes in that one at the time it aired. but we all know people now days go with herd mentality and won't think on their own so 🤷♀
The name of the crying child is often a theorist’s white whale. Be careful not to go full Ahab! By the way, I believe the next number in the sequence would be 8!
my 2 sense on the foxy grid: it seems really odd to me that people just follow the pattern to the second row, so the first column is A,T. to me, it makes a lot more sense to follow the alphabet in the top row, and then follow the alphabet down the column. so the first row would be abcdefghi ect., and the first column would be the same. and then the second column would be bcdefg, then cdefghi, and so on.
Technically there is a well-known cipher that uses a grid like this, the Polybius cipher... it uses the pattern that everyone is using just on a much smaller grid, 25 spaces total...
By the logic of the original theory itself, the crying child COULD be named Eva. But of course, that'd be against the personal bias of the Original Poster so they had to try and make an "N" fit in there. Never liked calling the kid "Evan" anyways... Great video, as always Chiptide!
So I was just thinking, if EVA was initials, we have an Elizabeth Afton that goes by Vanessa in the movie. I don't know if it really fits, but... The lore is kind of spaghetti anyway so who knows.
I mean,in security breach there is a picture of the fnaf 4 bed with a brown haired girl on it. Charlie was retconned into being a girl so it’s not off the table
I'll be honest, I never even thought of the name "Evan" for the cc.. It just doesn't suit the child. Dave (Evad backwards) does suit, As-well; Chris-stopher
Saw your springlock suit video and now this one just popped up. I like the premise of your channel from the intro I think approaching unsolved mysteries in games as puzzles is fun, subscribing. Also hearing u say in that springlock suit video that you were wrong about the name I was just internally like "nooo dont say sorry you were right". I don't know why that gets thrown around so much and with such hatred/ inistance too.
>I don't know why that gets thrown around so much It and a few other ideas :V Namely: "CC's name is Evan" "The Bite of 83 was a Springlock Failure/Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures" "Burntrap never existed (because he didnt appear in ONE game, also only him, every other non-appearing character still exists)" or "Burntrap was actually the Mimic all along" as an alternative...
Honestly, if people would actively harass someone about a HIGHLY contested theory, saying that it is unequivocally canon, kinda deserve their comments to be auto-deleted as spam. Now the people agreeing it ISN'T the forbidden name...
12:17 Page 89 EVAD ... Dave? like the pseudonym Afton uses in Silver Eyes? More compelling a case than Evan, given Scott's penchant for reusing names, but I bet the Op didn't like it enough 😂
I like to think it's Garrett for the same reason we think the child possessing The Marionette is named Charlie: using other media that named the parallel character. Edit: Before that, I thought he shared a name with Cassidy because Scott thought it would be funny that he answered "yes" again.
It's not Garrett it crying child Afton in the books main Canon original games to his name is crying child And Garrett don't cry all the time but crying child does. Main Original Canon game au Crying child Afton gets bullied and murdered by his brother Different Movie au Garrett doesn't get bullied killed by his brother Garrett Schmidt is murdered by William and kidnapped to and Garrett Schmidt brother Mike Schmidt Michael Schmidt did not bully his brother he is trying to find Garrett to. Garrett and Abby don't exist in main Canon original game AU world at all only different movie AU world. Charlie don't exist in FNAF movie au world only main original Canon game au world and PUPPET is Garrett Schmidt Crying child has nightmare is scared crying all the time and all not Garrett Schmidt. Crying child doesn't have a Canon name his name is crying child and his brother called him crying child because he was bully him to. There different movie au Garrett Schmidt And main Canon original game au crying child Afton. There different people to Foxy bro GARRETT SCHMIDT Crying child Afton are different people they're not the same person.
@@rad1165 crying child is a fan given name. nobody refers to him as "crying child" in anywhere in the games. also yes, the crying child from the games has a diffrent story than Garrett from the movie but other characters like Venessa have diffrent stories than the games as well. Garrett is ment to be a movie version of the crying child even if the names and the story dont match. just like Abby being Elizabeth. (if you rearrange the letters of "abby" you get "baby" by the way).
@@brnkks2 No it not fan name crying child cc is his name in the games and books to I literally in the book it say the crying child in character encyclopedia made BY Scott His name is crying child because he cry What who would you refer to him as if his name wasn't crying child who would you be talking about?? And Garrett Schmidt and crying child Afton is different people there not same person there Garrett like fill in for Charlie Crying child and his name it is crying child so it doesn't get confused with the movies au world books au world to. He's referred as crying child that's how you refer to him as when you're talking about him. He's always been referred as crying child to
Wolfie1740Kingdom himself doubts the name of the CC is Evan now. And HE STARTED it. PERSONALLY, I think the MOVIE had a hint (Crying Child's name is Garrett, anyone?)
Well, you say confirming Mike and Michael are the same character shouldn't be a big deal, cause they have the same name, but this is a franchise with 3 separate Jeremys with, as far as I'm aware, no connection whatsoever 😅
Honestly, I don't understand why there are 2 spirits in a book. Why did people decide that changed text is crying child? We found out about Cassidy's name by faded text and page number. However page number is changed text sometimes. So crying child's name is Cassidy, too? That doesn't make sense. We have seen that crying child was setted free in fnaf 3. And that he was passive in the all games. So what would he been doing in a logbook? I think that changed text and faded text is Cassidy's speech.
can't say I was expecting a video on this topic, but it was very enjoyable! you covered most of the reason's I'm not a fan of the "Evan" solution. I also hadn't heard of the "it's michael" solution before, so even if it probably isn't right that was interesting to hear about. a few months ago I tried out some potential solutions with the actually drawing foxy idea, but i don't think i really got anywhere. maybe it's time to revisit the book. those damn tally marks haunt me... also, I'd love to see more of these peer-review videos! I feel like there's a lot of theories that just kind of get taken for granted, so it can be useful to go back and review how we got there and what we actually know. not to mention entertaining!
The funny thing is,the logbook probably does give us Crying Child’s name. It’s Cassidy. I mean,the roles the two ghosts play mirror the Stitchwraith perfectly and in the Stitchwraith the Crying Child parallel is the one who can communicate and see and the vengeful spirit parallel can’t see or hear. Effectively,it’s the other way around,which also seems accurate to golden Freddy considering “It’s Me!” And the type of things the faded speaker knows about Mike
I've had this thought, but there's a Cassidy in the novels who's a girl and there's also an unexplained girl in the logbook that only really makes sense if it's Cassidy that also matches her description from the novels. It feels pretty clear that Cassidy is a girl, which does not line up with Crying Child (confirmed to be a boy in dialogue from FNAF 4 if the sprite wasn't enough). Is it 100%? No, but I personally think that Cassidy is more likely the vengeful spirit/UCN kid than the Crying Child.
@@YellowSkarmory And that girl Cassidy was decidedly NOT the spirit inside Golden Freddy. The Golden Freddy spirit was Michael Brooks. Also,the Vengeful Spirit is also a boy considering he created UCN and everyone who mentions the One You Should Not Have Killed uses male pronouns. It’s also worth pointing out that in security breach there is a picture of a girl with pigtails on the fnaf 4 bed in the endo section so CC *could* have been retconned to be a girl,in a similar way to how Charlie was (Since originally it was Save Him)
It doesn't help that there is a seperate Tally Mark puzzle being worked on from Security Breach and Ruin... I don't know yet if we had to bring in AR or either of the VR games and the DLC for the first one, so the Tallies might not be a part of this particular one... Edit: which the Sticky Notes being potentially tied in might tie up the pictures as well, invalidating just about everything else... this is so rough, and I might need to take a deep dive instead when I've got the time to study up on cryptography and puzzle solving... Edit2: For clarity, I was referring to the sticky notes in Ruin. Specifically, the glitched Ballon Boy arcade room that was hidden in the base game with that special Fazcam puzzle. You access the restored notes by looking at them with the VANNI mask on.
Im very proud for guessing immediately that the answer to the number question was 8, and thatvyou add the previous number to the current one to get the next
I knew ever since the beggining that it was not going to work out. Back when this whole evan thing came to light, I already knew this was not right. That last letter was already missing and people just assumed. Its nice that you proved that this is not impossible, but at the same time not possible! We needed someone to talk about it on youtube !
I agree that the methodology behind finding Evan's name is very flawed, but I consider it to be harmless lore/headcanons. Mostly because while it can be important to know a character's name, it doesn't have to be necessary. Not to mention the story Blackbird from Fazbear's Frights features a father named Evan talking to his son Jake who is dying from a brain tumor at a hospital via a walkie talkie implanted inside a doll that distorts his voice (Familiar plotline wouldn't you agree?). Evan's only other living family is his brother Micheal who is described as a robot with bad programming who has a keen interest in finances. In other news, I just think making Evan the name of the CC just humanizes him and gives him a clearer point of reference, not to mention it differentiates him from his movie counterpart Garrett. Thank you for taking the time to go over this rampant mystery Chiptide. I also have another FNAF idea you could possibly tackle in the future. Which is: How Strong is the Mimic? Because both in the books and in Ruin it's remarkably powerful for a shape-shifting copycat Endo. In Tales from the Pizzaplex it can rip off all human limbs and heads off the body and pile them and in Ruin it has two feats of strength. First one is when it manages to push the forklift that freed it out of the way, an average forklift is about 9000 lbs, yikes. Number 2 is when its head dents the elevator bar door, it forces its arm off, and it crushes one of the bars like alumminum. Could you calculate how strong it would need to be to do that?
this video felt so validating as someone who has always said the "Evan" theory never made any sense for the exact reasons in this video unrelated but the FNaF Movie basically just confirms CC as "Garrett" so I feel like the debate should rest now
"It's Michael" could confirm that the Bite Victim is somehow aware of Michael being there, but I feel like they wouldn't be messing with any random security guard's logbook anyway. 😄
Even if we get the answer, Scott is never going to give us a straight answer on if we got it right or not. He is a troll. A bad DM. He’s out to defeat us who enjoy his work. As long as we keep that in mind, we will have some fun despite him.
Okay, real quick, love the FNAF 6 fire music in the background of the beginning! I swear, editors of all these videos (not just your's) need more recognition these days.
this is why im not sold on the dave theory either. you get "evad", and then reverse it using the mirror (which says "what do you see"). thats actually really cool. but to connect "do you have dreams" to "im scared" it uses the michael drawing of nightmare. it feels too much like a stretch.
@@stagelights_ Dave is better. We know that EVA works perfectly and we just can't find the last letter. Every Letter was solved through Crying child answering Cas. Cas has many other question and "do you have dream" with the help of mike is the only logical question that work with "I'm scared".
There is nothing that makes me click off a theory more than someone calling him Evan, my personal pet peeve. CC is not hard to say. So thank you for this
The answer to that number puzzle you put in is: adding the previous number with the current number. As for example. If we start with the number 1 with nothing before it. Its 0 + 1 = 1. Then with are new current 1. We add the previous 1 behind it. So 1 + 1 = 2. This is why it goes 2, 3, 5, cause if we're at 3 and we add the previous number. We get 2 + 3 = 5. (There is probably an easier and quicker way to say what I just said but I just wanted to solve the number puzzle.)
While yeah the Evan theory doesn't make much sense as a puzzle, there is something that gives it more credit In Fazbear Frights books, (partly parallel, partly it's own thing, and with some hints of actual canon) one of the characters is named Evan, who has a brother named Michael
@@maas1208 Because the movie is a different continuity. Ah... I see, like the video said, if it doesnt work in every case then it doesnt work. I guess not but that's the best guess I have currently.
Due to the short length of the number sequence 1,2,3,5, there are many sequences that contain 1,2,3,5, the Fibonacci Sequence being the most famous. It could also be the number of partitions of the positive integers, 1 having 1 partition, 2 having 2, 3 having 3, and 4 having 5. It could be the squarefree numbers, positive integers that don't have a perfect square greater than 1 as a factor. The exception of 1 is actually very important in this case, because if you did not exclude 1, it is trival to see you would have the empty set. Unlike the previous examples, squarefree numbers actually has the first four terms be 1,2,3,5, instead of just containing 1,2,3,5 somewhere. If you allow for any sequence containing 1,2,3,5, just to be the n, n+1, n+2, n+3 terms, then the amount of solutions just in the OEIS is 4564. The partitions sequence usually starts with the partitions of zero, not one. But that is not the only sequence that has the first four terms be 1,2,3,5, it could also be the primeth recurrence. The first prime is 2, the second prime is 3 and the 3rd prime is 5, giving the sequence 1,2,3,5, or many other things. Using the hint, the OEIS says there are 1407 results. Typically the Fibonnaci sequence has starts with zero, so that is not likely. Partitions are now looking more likely, because the first 5 terms are 1,1,2,3,5. It could also be the floor of (3^n/2^n), or again many other things. My guess is the Partions of non negative integers.
I decided to delete my original post and just make a new one. What if it’s Luis? Time for an explanation. So remember the code that gets us Cassidy? The same code also gets us Luis GF (or Golden Freddy). In Matpat’s video “FNAF STUMPED Me!” he gets the code 52, 39, 15, (7 and 2), (10 and 11), and 8:11 from specific pages in the book. He adds the numbers from each page together (5+2=7, 3+9=12, 1+5=6, 7+2=9, 10+11=21, 8+11=19) to get the code 7, 12, 6, 9, 21, and 19. Put that in the Foxy Grid and you get GLFIUS. When unscrambled you get LUIS GF (Golden Freddy). Now the original code (52, 39, 15, (7 and 2), (10 and 11), and 8:11) is used another way to get Cassidy. Is it a stretch that Luis is the Crying Child’s real name? Probably but I do still think it is an important name to keep note of.
Seems like the easiest way for someone to solve this one would be to have a puzzle solver with no knowledge of the franchise try. Our need to fill it with satisfying answers obscured fans from doing it.
I’ve always found it odd that the tally marks Mike makes seemingly aren’t used for anything. I definitely think there might be something there though the one that stumps me is the pages with the grouped tallies. Gotta go thru it again to see if I can figure anything out
Have anyone try the Activity given try redrawing Foxy Sprite from the game as seen in FNAF 3 for example? This puzzle weird and the my guess, maybe, Garrett might of been the answer mainly because the FNAF movie well different does tell use some stuff about this different version of Micheal who never had William as his father, what if Garrett the same?
I imagine part of the solution involves, "Rounding to the nearest whole number..." Too bad my math education was so inconsistent from frequent moving and the terrible death knell to US education that was "No Child Left Behind" (thanks, Bush Jr, you monster).
The answer is always add the next number. The true first one in the sequence is 0. So 0,1,1,2,3,5. 0+1=1 1+1=2 1+2=3 2+3=5 I've actually seen this one back in highschool and I'm also a "no child left behind" survivor. Blame the inadequate distribution of wealth in this country if you must blame anything.
I got a kid get so mad at me calling him the crying child because the log book proved it but the fans messed up some of the puzzles like this book is not from Fnaf 1 but most likely from Fnaf 3 and he started filling it out after sister location
Literally as soon as you said you were getting corrected about The Crying Child's name and I literally went "Evans a fan name wtf are these guys talking about" I swear this is some Mandela shit
7:12 It would be very dumb but also unfortunately not unprecedented. I think there are at least three Jeremys in this franchise (boy stuffed into Bonnie, night guard Jeremy Fitzgerald, Help Wanted tester who tried to slice off the VR mask).
>Clearly these people are not very careful about their FNAF lore. Dont forget as well, the ideas that "the Bite of 83 is a Springlock Failure" and "Burntrap just never existed/was always literally Mimic" too :V
at 12:15 i had a thought that it might not be the crying child's name, but one of William's aliases as Evad is just Dave backwards and in the books they called him Dave Miller (or something like that)
Add the current number to the previous number to get the next number. 1: 0 + 1 = 1 (0 would be null, or NaN [not a number], which could have 0 plugged in for it) 1: 1 + 1 = 2 2: 2 + 1 = 3 3: 3 + 2 = 5 If it continued, it would be 8 next, then 13, 21, 34, 55, and so on. Edit: Yeah, it doesn't seem like "Evan" is the Crying Child's name. I think people latched onto the name since it gave the community something to call the Crying Child other than, well... "Crying Child". After all, some people, maybe most don't want to say "Crying Child" over and over in a FNAF video, especially if it's multiple hours. I think "C.C." is a better name, or rather placeholder name for the Crying Child due to it being just the initials of "Crying Child".
15:30 The possible anweser could be "William Afton is the crying child" a massive streach, doesn't make much sense, but it is the logical conclusion of him saying his name is Springtrap, could be worth a wild thought on what would that imply in the grand scheme of things
is the number puzzle that u add the last two number together?
Congrats, you were the first one to get it! It's called the Fibonacci Sequence, it's actually pretty cool if you look into it
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@@TheChiptideI'd have thought it was primes.
@@maple7093 one is not considered a prime. By definition, a prime is a natural number which can only be divided by two natural numbers without a remainder, itself and one. In the case of one both itself and one are the same number it is only divisible by a single number without a reminder, making it not a prime.
Purple guy is not!!!!
"I'm 100% sure is name is E-"
(Watches the video)
"-ventually going to be figured out."
Dave
@@Mythologylover431Dave Miller aka
William Afton aka
Purple Guy aka
Aubergine man aka
Bill aka
Spring trap aka
Scrap trap aka
Burn trap aka
Glitchtrap
Is not the Crying Child
@yahyamohammed9325Evad - Reflect - Dave
@yahyamohammed9325
Do you have a better idea than the Dave solution?
"Hello scared, I'm dad" -William to his dead child, probably lmao
Somehow I feel like that's more likely than William comforting him on his deathbed 😂
I have 0 problem with anyone referring to Crying Child as "Evan" for simplicity's sake, or in their own headcanon, whatever. I know who you're talking about, it's cool.
But GUYS. It's not confirmed canon - and it's DEFINITELY not canon enough to SPAM CREATORS telling them they were "wrong" for referring to the character only with their canon name. Take a deep breath and move on, gosh dang-
Anyway, really interesting video! Ive never read the security logbook myself and I do NOT have a head for numbers or obscure puzzles, so seeing you break down each "solution" and explain how they got there and why it doesn't exactly work was fascinating
This, exactly this!!!
Dont Go after people over your headcanon!
Like IT makes Sense with batsy being a Bad parent for example, since that IS Canon but Holding him acountable in a way Canon does Not . . . .Like calling a Guy a good parent after He beat His traumatised recovering Kid into the ground to force him into a suicide Mission and cutting of all His support . . . .thats Just bs, ITS Impossible to do that to your child and BE a good parent No Matter how Canon tried to come Back from that and pretending Like there IS IS harmful with real world consequences.
But the Name Even IS in No way shape or Form Canon! IT does Not have real world implications whatever you use IT or Not! There IS No Fight tonbe faught over that, nothing to defend Just believe IT or not
Well the crying child have too Many name and doesn’t have a canon name
THANK YOU. I always refer to him as Evan because, as you said, it's more simple. Plus I was there when the name was first "discovered" in the logbook and just got too used to it. Even though it's kinda annoying to be clarifying all the time I'm aware it's not canon everytime I refer to the kid by that name.
15:40 "There was never any question" this poor innocent soul wasn't there for Miketrap
It's crazy how long that theory stayed alive. Far longer than it should have.
I thought that was a ship name and got horrified for a moment
@@phiikichi That’s not even the worst ship these psychos have made…
@@salt_factory7566 sadly im aware ;-;
@@phiikichiIT could BE, I garantee your ITS a thing
Maybe the foxy grid puzzle was purposely made incomplete because the crying child remains incomplete. William was never able to find all the pieces, so we’re missing some pieces too. So the name of the crying child will never be revealed, like how the FNAF 4 box will never be opened.
i could totally see scott doing that actually given how big of a troll he is.
Still think Fnaf 4 was trying to say you were the CC for all the games and are a robot
@@Handlelesswithme ooh so you're team Mikevictim? (No offense, I actually find the theory pretty cool).
This might actually be true... Unless he runs out of ideas to keep giving more plot twists to the Afton era of the lore and finally spills the beans lol. However I still like to refer to CC as Evan, but that's personal.
Honestly the whole Evan thing always felt like a card force, and every answer kind of feels like looking for an expected answer. We don’t really even know if it’s really supposed to be a name. Just taking a step back from what the community has decided, the prompt and the page kinda feel like it’s asking for a nonogram to make an 8-bit image, it just needs a key. Maybe the 2-4-5 sequence from the tally marks? Idk, not my area, it just seems like potentially a totally different puzzle than we all think. Alternatively, if you had a cannon 8-bit image of foxy that wasn’t totally arbitrary, you could reverse engineer an answer from the nonogram key that would make it, but that’s pretty forced too.
The 8-bit Foxy that comes to mind is Michael himself with the foxy mask, but he has a few different sprites. There's also the "Foxy Go! Go! Go!" minigame Foxy, the "Follow Me" minigame Foxy...
I suck with numbers and puzzles so I don't know how you'd incorporate those sprites into puzzle form, or how you'd decide where to put them on the grid, but I don't know how many people have tried using those
@@drawingdragon yeah, that’s the problem with working backwards, what sprite you use also feels arbitrary. But it being a nonogram would make a lot of sense in context, they’re really popular in Japanese puzzle books, like Sudoku, rather than being an advanced cryptography technique. If you’ve ever seen a picross game it’s the same thing.
@@drawingdragon Ok but at least sticking to a sprite at all would be something that isnt subjective/arbitrary, just check each sprite to see which ones give something coherent.
Then again I guess *where* its placed would still be arbitrary... Unless there's a sprite which has a height that perfectly matches the grid, then make sure its centered, and only if that comes out with something coherent would I say it works.
It is only fate for theorists to go down a rabbit hole of fnaf after their first theory on it.
Anyway, great video!
Objectively Garrett is the closest we’ve gotten he’s the closest thing to another confirmed appearance the bite victim has had in 9 years bro is so popular for WHAT
He's important because he motivates Michael and Cassidy to act
@@vanyadolly Cassidy’s motive is murder
@@SCP-469 She is the only spirit we can confirm communicating with both Michael and CC. She's asking questions relevant to happiest day in the logbook, not ranting about murder.
nah theres evidence in the logbook he could be named evan,but it isnt confirmed
@@creeper_was_here they literally talk about Evan Is extremely flawed in this video
It’s essentially wrong
the joking "evad" being the current answer is actually hilarious
Reflect on it.
Part of the reason the Evan theory took off wasn’t just because of the “solution” to the logbook puzzle, it was also because there is a character named Evan in the Fazbear Frights books. In the books, Evan has a child named Jake who is leading a suspiciously similar life to the crying child, and Evan has a brother named Mike.
I mean I wouldn't say Jake is anything like the crying child other that the fact the two have a mysterious doll friend with a radio inside that their dad uses to communicate with them. Jake circumstances are completely different to the ones the crying child was under.
Similar character parallels ( and I'd argue stronger ones) are present all across the Fazbear Frights books such as Bob and his family in Bunny Call and Hudson in What WE Found but none of those characters share a name with the character they are paralleling. Also there are a lot of Mikes in the Book series. Therefore I don't consider this good evidence in support of the crying child being named Evan.
I haven't played any of the FNAF games or read the books, but I think people are overthinking it and should treat the books and games as separate. Besides the crying child's name is most likely Cassidy and his soul is most likely broken in two.
“People should treat the games and books as separate” we literally got the name “William Afton” for the Purple Guy from the books before it was confirmed in Sister Location.
My new headcanon is that the crying child is called "Scared Afton" and honestly, there's no reason why it shouldn't be that.
There's a recent video that suggests that "I'm Scared" is responding to "Do you have dreams?" on page 41, which would give a 'D'. Now, while "Evad" is not a name, the issue comes from assuming that these letters are in the correct order to begin with, because after all, there's no actual indication of which letter comes first. People just assume that the first 3 are E-V-A because the original theorizer arranged them that way in order to force "Evan" to fit. If we instead flip them around however, we get the name "Dave", which just so happens to be the alias that William used when posing as a security guard in The Silver Eyes. We're also 99.99% sure that William is hired as the first guard in FNaF 2 under a fake name, so that got me thinking, what if he used the same alias in the games as he did in the novel trilogy, and what if that alias (at least in the games) was the name of his dead son? *mind blown*
Would you mind sharing said video, please? Seems interesting. I've never heard about this.
Similar video to the one mentioned
Your reasoning of everything is solid. Think it shows well how the community takes theories for granted without fact checking themselves too often. I will say i am still quite fond of the CCs name being Evan not only for the fact that even in the original post theres multiple ways that people have found the name but one more compelling reason you hadnt mentioned. Almost exactly 3 years after the release of the Logbook, the Fazbears Frights book "Blackbird" released in which there is a story (The Real Jake) which topic-wise parallels CC and includes someone with an older brother named Micheal, with the name "Evan". Quite a big coincidence, no? Well still, its not confirmed so it stays more of a headcanon for now i guess. Thoughts?
and yet the movie contradicts this with Garret being the first to die. I really doubt those books were meant to tell us much. Fazbear frights seems to just be a fun stories off shoot. Scott told us before that the books were not in the same continuity of the games but no one what's to listen so 🤷♀
@@777SilverPhoenix777i mean, the movie also changed Elizabeth's name to Abby, along with a lot of other changes (like Mike and his siblings not being Afton's kids) so we shouldn't take every information on the movie so literally
@@pdd5793I agree with you, I honestly think the movie was meant to show what FNaF originally was and how it grew into what it is now.
Except Evan is the kid’s dad.
I agree with Evan not being his name. Ever since I heard that the N was just kinda pieced in there because it was the only letter to fit.
The verbal smackdown he just casually gives in the middle of the video is both hilarious and kinda sad that it’s necessary.
Alright everyone, I've done some digging and I think I found something very promising, but I need some help figuring out if I'm on to something, or it's just a coincidence.
Throughout the book, there are 4 different pages with coupons on them that I sort of closed over in the video, but I think they might actually be the key to cracking the foxy grid!
The Foxy grid has 45 columns and 28 rows before there's a line break. So, it stands to reason that the number we need to plug in for the horizontal coordinate should be between 1 and 45, and the vertical should be between 1 and 28, or else we'd need to do some complicated looping around stuff. Well, I was looking more at the coupons that appear on 4 separate pages throughout the book, which list all the stuff you can get with the coupons (two pizzas, 4 cupcakes, 20 game tokens, stuff like that). The largest quantity of stuff you can get from a coupon is 45 ride tokens from the coupon called Foxy's Pirate-Palooza. Every other item on one of these coupons is somewhere between 1 and 45, the exact number of columns on the grid. Each coupon also has a dollar amount that you can save, ranging from 4 to 16, which would all fit in the vertical range! So my thought was maybe that you need to use the number of items you can get with the coupon as the horizontal coordinate, and the value of the coupon as the vertical! Besides just being able to fit in the grid perfectly, more evidence for this being the correct solution is on the final coupon, where Mike has written "For real value, see page 61". This page is the one with the half finished comic with a blackboard that has 4+5 and 3 written on it, meaning that the true value of this coupon should be 3, 9, or 12 if you added them all together. This leads me to believe that the values of these coupons have to be significant, or else why would they bother telling us that the final coupon's value is wrong? So, I tried doing just that, turning every item on each coupon into a letter by using the number of things you get as across, and the value of the coupon down in the grid.
As I started going, I noticed that sometimes the numbers are spelled out, like in the first entry where you get TWO medium pizzas with your choice of TWO toppings each. The fact that the word two is capitalized in the first coupon leads me to believe that having some written out and some with digits is significant, but it could just be a style choice. Other times the numbers are written out with simple digits. And finally, some entries don't have a number explicitly called out but have an implied quantity, like the Custom Party Kit with invitations and hats. Because these don't have a specific number, I'm not sure if they should be included or not, so I marked them in green.
So, to summarize, using this method, the letters obtained from the numbers written out are:
E E Y Y F F F Z Y S C O O O, and then the last one is either O O if you used 3, Y Y if you used 9, or D D if you used 12.
The letters obtained from the numbers expressed with digits are:
R D B J C Q Y O K T F Y B U R Y and the last one is either J if you use 3, T if you use 9, and Y if you use 12
Lastly, the letters from the implied numbers that may or may not be included are
R D R B B and the last one is either MJ if you use 3, W if you use 9, and B if you use 12.
Looking at these letters, I noticed that F, R, E, D, Y, and B all come up way more often than they should. Of the 43 letters (including the implied ones, and using 12 for the last coupon), there are exactly 5 B's, 5 D's, 5 F's, and 5 R's, 8 Y's, and 2 E's. So my first thought was to try to spell out "Freddy" as many times as I could, and maybe the letters that are left over spell something, but that didn't really amount to anything. I tried just unscrambling the letters all together but couldn't figure anything out. My other thought was to try and find out how much each item is actually worth based on these coupons, a lot of the items are repeated across different coupons in different amounts, so you could probably figure out how much each thing is worth, but I'm not sure how that would really help. It's also possible that you need to actually cut the coupons out and look on the backs of them or something, I have a digital version of the book so I'm not able to try it myself, but it could be something
And so, I leave it to you! This all feels like it was very intentionally designed to me, the fact that it exactly matches the size of the Foxy grid, the clue in red, and the fact that the same letters repeatedly come up, but I'm not sure where to take it next. If Let me know if any of you have any ideas, though!
Update, I just tested it out, and the system of equations idea that I had is impossible. The Foxy's Pirate-Palooza coupon includes 2 unknowns that don't appear in any other equation, so finding their value would be mathematically impossible. So you probably don't need to do any math, but just turning the items into letters is still totally an option!
Peope have suggested that the "real value" is meant to tell us that FNAF 3 takes place in 2015. It's written on a $16 coupon, and if you multiply the numbers on the blackboard of the page it tells you to go to, you get $27. $16 in 1992 would be about $27 in 2015, placing the Logbook in 2015.
It does seem very deliberate. I didn't try this but is there any number that stands out in those coupons? Maybe you need to move the letters by a set value. So if it's 2 and the letter A you move it by 2 the result is C. Just a suggestion because they did this in the past
I recently watched a different video that used the "for true value" to figure out what year the book was written inside, which turned out to be 2017, so maybe you have to adjust the values of all the other coupons for inflation and use those numbers? just a thought.
@@snoodge-cv7fj They got that by using 1993 as the date of FNAF 1, which is wrong. FNAF 1 takes place in 1992 based on the days of the week that the FNAF 2 paychecks are given. If they are the same as in FNAF 1, then 1is in '92.
I think the biggest problem with the FNAF games and community as a whole is that for some of the mysteries presented, there's no real answers to them.
You got mysteries like what Crying Child's real name is, who died first in the FNAf timeline (Crying Child, Charlie, Suzie, or Elizabeth), and whatever the hell Midnight Motorist is, to name a few.
And it's true that hints have been provided to the solution to these mysteries, but unless a clear answer is provided to any of them, the best we can do is theorize (and many of the theories will inevitably contradict each other).
Scott seems to be allergic to solid answers it seems so none of this will ever be solved as he refuses to confirm anything.
Watch the 9 hour lore video by Gibi and trust me those last two examples you threw out most definitely have answers
Isn't midnight motorist pretty definitive?
@@zackbuildit88Yeah I mean the name of the minigame is literally called “Later That Night” and seemingly picks up right after Charlie’s death.
@@BoredSanDwitch and it seems pretty clear based on presentation and context clues that it's the Afton household, and crying child was the one who escaped
Right, so here are some of my observations from the book, they could be nothing, but I thought I'd throw them out, and you all can do the same!
The first thing I didn't have much time to go into was the tally marks. A couple of the pages have tally marks on them in groups of 4 and 5 (actually, ever grouping of tallies is 5 except for one grouping of 4). A lot of people have connected this to a similar tally mark puzzle from Ruin, where you can find tallies carved into the walls, again in groupings of 4, 5, and 2. If these 2 puzzles are related (which isn't a guarantee), then the numbers 2, 4, and 5 have to be significant somehow. If the puzzle were a simple matter of adding up all the tallies on each page or across a row or something, then you would expect that you have an equal chance of having a group of 3 tallies or a group of 5 would be the same, so the fact that there isn't a single group of 1 or 3 tallies across either of these is significant. I'm not sure what that could mean in terms of the puzzle, but just to brainstorm some connections, the numbers 2, 4, and 5 are all the factors of the number 20 that can be expressed with tally marks (there's also 10, which is just 2 groups of 5). The number 20 is also significant in the Foxy Grid because, since there are 45 columns and 26 letters, the way it works out the 1st column and the 20th column are identical to one another (same with 2 and 21, 3 and 23, and so on). So if these 2 puzzles are connected through the tally marks, the solution could be a bit more math-intensive than everyone thought.
Another thing I noticed relates to Foxy. This page has you drawing Foxy, so I decided to look into all the times Foxy appears to see if there was some pattern or something. And while I didn't find any pattern per say, I did find that Foxy appears ALL OVER this book. In fact, Foxy appears on nearly twice as many pages as Freddy, the 2nd most common character in the book. (For reference, Foxy appears on 27 pages, Freddy appears on 14, Bonnie on 13, Chica on 11, and a few of the sister location characters along with the puppet show up only a handful of times). This could just be because he's sort of the "Main Character" of the book, he's the security guard character on all the chapter art and the end of night interviews (which furthers the theory that Foxy Bro is Mike Schmidt/Afton), but even without those 10 extra instances, he would still be the most common of the core 4. A lot of the images that they use for him are reused throughout the book, so I thought maybe it was a case of using page numbers where duplicate images appear, but that doesn't seem to actually hold up, the images don't always come in pairs. It seems more likely that these were just reused images to cut down on costs, but I thought I'd throw it out there
Perhaps you could use the total number of times each character appears? Or perhaps the first number is the number of pages each character appears on and the second number is the total number of times the character appears, or vice versa. I would check it myself, but I don't actually have the book.
Actually, one funny thing you forgot(?) to mention in the video...
14:32 this DOES actually line up word for word with two OTHER instances.
First, in the Novels, William states "My Name is Springtrap".
Secondly, an announcement for Five Nights at Freddy's 3, titled "Early beta-testing successsful!", namely:
"Five Nights at Freddy's 3 had it's first round of beta-testing the other night. I have two faithful beta-testers who always help me out (mmost of yyou probably know who they are). The game still nneeds aa lot of work of course; it's still very bare bones at the mmomeent, but the game succeeded iin making my testerss jump out of their sseats. One of the features I didn't warn them about were the **************, which they found very effective. ;) PPlus "he" was much more aggrressiive than I'd annticipated and prevented my testers from ggetting past nightt 2. All in all, however, everrything went very well aand I'm on track to release the game as pplanned. :)"
Note the repeating letters, that's how we first got his name.
While it likely ISNT him as you said, it's still funny how it happens to line up oddly well...
As for what it could POSSIBLY mean? Presumably "Springtrap is Faded"
It might also relate to phone guy. After all, it was his favorite. Foxy just doesn’t have to relate to Michael.
one idea i've seen around esp in fanfics that i don't know the source of is that Michael inspired or even directly created Foxy as a concept which would go to explain his obsession with the character and his constant association with him beyond just the connection with foxybro
it might also be worth mentioning that the series has at least two Jeremy's if not as many as four which doesn't help here but does have to do with the Mike/Michael thing though i agree they're the same character
i hoped that something clear would emerge with the ruin tally puzzle but that's more hoping two obscure puzzles solve each other rather than a genuine expectation.
one thought i have that's probably been said before is that the games often reward inputting the numbers 1983/1987 even without giving them as a clue so i wonder if some of the info for this puzzle came from one of the games as a reward for knowing your trivia. maybe the code to get the good ending in FNAF 3? it'd work well for the top row since treating each number as singular leaves everything falling on the grid which i have a feeling is gonna be the case for whatever the final solution ends up being
i just wish we knew the output for the puzzle at all, we all assume we're looking for a word which makes sense, but even just having the number of letters in the solution would be a huge help
i vaguely remember the book having numbers changed by the crying child but i don't own it so i can't check easily, but if the letters in the grid are faded text then you'd think we'd get the answers from something to do with Cassidy...unless they're just using it as a homemade Ouija board for their fellow ghost
sorry this is such a jumble and so sprawling, guess i was inspired by your comment to just let the ADHD do its thing lol
@@Stormageddon571 so inspired by this i used the number of times each character appeared as the down and the year 1987 as the across and i got "Aqua" which probably isn't right but it's really cool that at least one coherent response can come from that trick. that specific word would use the character order as: Foxy, Chica, Freddy, Bonnie
i'd use them in the order the characters show up as drawings in the book but i don't have a copy so i had to brute force it a little
i can't find anything coherent in any of the combos where the character appearances are used as the Across
all possible letters for 1987 : 1983 across:
A/N/U/I
I/V/C/Q
H/U/B/P
G/T/A/O : C/P/W/K
all possible letters for 1987 : 1983 down
A/N/M/K
W/K/J/H
D/Q/P/N
M/Z/Y/W : K/X/W/U
as a fnaf veteran myself and someone that's probably got a stupidly encyclopedic knowledge of every little tiny detail of this franchise and its history, first of all i wanna say you've actually done GREAT research for someone that started as a proper n00b.
second of all, which probably should've been the first point, this was a great video all around. solid debunks, solid reasoning, loved it.
the only thing i wanted to add was: people coining the name Evan actually didn't START from that solution to the foxy grid. to get into the weeds a bit, one of the short stories released (from the Fazbear Frights series of books) had a family in it where a character named Evan had a brother named Michael ("The Real Jake" if you'd like to read more into that, but honestly that's where the similarities of the Evan character to the CC end. it's also worth mentioning that it's not uncommon at all for scott cawthon to reuse names and throw in stuff like that, because he knows it's theory bait for the fandom). basically, a good amount of the fandom had already decided the name was canon just from that leap alone. now, this story came out in december of 2020. this makes that foxy grid solution even MORE unlikely for me, because with it being posted in february of 2021, i honestly think the person who got that result (and the resulting people accepting it being the answer) had confirmation bias, if not just looking for a way for it to come out as Evan to confirm the name for sure (no shade though! grasping for answers is what this community is all about after all, lol)
I truly believe that anything that we know now should be thrown out for this grid to work. Only what was available in the games at the time this book came out could be used.
Hell I'd go as far as saying that the Ruin tally marks are either a way to give us a clue to this thing or aren't related at all. I'm leaning towards the later given the differences between the two.
This is a great addition to the video! I enjoyed this info :D
@@mimsycookiiess dang, thank you!
Game theory: I think that the crying child’s name is Evan, but that’s just a theory.
The fandom: Okay so his real canon name is Evan
too be fair Mat pointed out all the holes in that one at the time it aired. but we all know people now days go with herd mentality and won't think on their own so 🤷♀
Even in game theory the consensus had been a fan came up with this and we didn’t think they had enough evidence but it’s the best we have so far.
Actually no, even game theory didn't fully believe that it was Evan. They also thought on how they found the name is inconsistent.
All right guys now that he knows Evan is not 100% correct, lets spam that CC is Garrett xD
if the FNAF movies clear their whole time up i would be a very happy camper XD
My Favorit Had to BE He was named scared, Like how jk and in Disney movies often call their characters Something very obviously descriptiv 😂
Lets not
The name of the crying child is often a theorist’s white whale. Be careful not to go full Ahab!
By the way, I believe the next number in the sequence would be 8!
my 2 sense on the foxy grid: it seems really odd to me that people just follow the pattern to the second row, so the first column is A,T. to me, it makes a lot more sense to follow the alphabet in the top row, and then follow the alphabet down the column. so the first row would be abcdefghi ect., and the first column would be the same. and then the second column would be bcdefg, then cdefghi, and so on.
I really like this take. I don't think I've seen any version of the theory using the letters in this configuration. Needs more research for sure!
Technically there is a well-known cipher that uses a grid like this, the Polybius cipher... it uses the pattern that everyone is using just on a much smaller grid, 25 spaces total...
@@gavros9636vigenere cipher uses the "columns and rows are the same" thing though
@@naomilangevin3944was investigated by matpat while looking for Chica's name! But he... never found any leads from it :/
By the logic of the original theory itself, the crying child COULD be named Eva. But of course, that'd be against the personal bias of the Original Poster so they had to try and make an "N" fit in there.
Never liked calling the kid "Evan" anyways... Great video, as always Chiptide!
So I was just thinking, if EVA was initials, we have an Elizabeth Afton that goes by Vanessa in the movie.
I don't know if it really fits, but... The lore is kind of spaghetti anyway so who knows.
@@drowsypoppy i didnt even think about initials... you may be onto something
@@canofraidantandroachspray8415 don't say that, I'm too old to make FNAF theory videos!
I mean,in security breach there is a picture of the fnaf 4 bed with a brown haired girl on it. Charlie was retconned into being a girl so it’s not off the table
Wait... people actually thought Evan was the canon name? Not even MatPat believed that and he believes the craziest things!
I'll be honest, I never even thought of the name "Evan" for the cc..
It just doesn't suit the child.
Dave (Evad backwards) does suit, As-well; Chris-stopher
Saw your springlock suit video and now this one just popped up. I like the premise of your channel from the intro I think approaching unsolved mysteries in games as puzzles is fun, subscribing. Also hearing u say in that springlock suit video that you were wrong about the name I was just internally like "nooo dont say sorry you were right". I don't know why that gets thrown around so much and with such hatred/ inistance too.
>I don't know why that gets thrown around so much
It and a few other ideas :V
Namely:
"CC's name is Evan"
"The Bite of 83 was a Springlock Failure/Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures"
"Burntrap never existed (because he didnt appear in ONE game, also only him, every other non-appearing character still exists)"
or "Burntrap was actually the Mimic all along" as an alternative...
"Either that, or it's a completely new third character also named Mike, which would be very dumb."
Jeramy: 👀
I saw someone point out that if you use the Happiest Day minigame ending in the Foxy Grid you get Evan as a name
Honestly, if people would actively harass someone about a HIGHLY contested theory, saying that it is unequivocally canon, kinda deserve their comments to be auto-deleted as spam.
Now the people agreeing it ISN'T the forbidden name...
12:17 Page 89 EVAD ... Dave? like the pseudonym Afton uses in Silver Eyes? More compelling a case than Evan, given Scott's penchant for reusing names, but I bet the Op didn't like it enough 😂
Not saying that it’s true but I really like this explanation better than the Evan one 😭
“I forgot henry existed” so did everyone before fnaf 6 💀💀
I like to think it's Garrett for the same reason we think the child possessing The Marionette is named Charlie: using other media that named the parallel character.
Edit: Before that, I thought he shared a name with Cassidy because Scott thought it would be funny that he answered "yes" again.
It's not Garrett it crying child Afton in the books main Canon original games to his name is crying child
And Garrett don't cry all the time but crying child does. Main Original Canon game au Crying child Afton gets bullied and murdered by his brother
Different Movie au Garrett doesn't get bullied killed by his brother Garrett Schmidt is murdered by William and kidnapped to and Garrett Schmidt brother Mike Schmidt Michael Schmidt did not bully his brother he is trying to find Garrett to.
Garrett and Abby don't exist in main Canon original game AU world at all only different movie AU world.
Charlie don't exist in FNAF movie au world only main original Canon game au world and PUPPET is Garrett Schmidt
Crying child has nightmare is scared crying all the time and all not Garrett Schmidt.
Crying child doesn't have a Canon name his name is crying child and his brother called him crying child because he was bully him to.
There different movie au Garrett Schmidt
And main Canon original game au crying child Afton. There different people to
Foxy bro
GARRETT SCHMIDT
Crying child Afton are different people they're not the same person.
I assumed it was in reference in the guy who plays Mike's dad
@@rad1165 crying child is a fan given name. nobody refers to him as "crying child" in anywhere in the games. also yes, the crying child from the games has a diffrent story than Garrett from the movie but other characters like Venessa have diffrent stories than the games as well. Garrett is ment to be a movie version of the crying child even if the names and the story dont match. just like Abby being Elizabeth. (if you rearrange the letters of "abby" you get "baby" by the way).
@@brnkks2
No it not fan name crying child cc is his name in the games and books to
I literally in the book it say the crying child in character encyclopedia made BY Scott His name is crying child because he cry
What who would you refer to him as if his name wasn't crying child who would you be talking about?? And Garrett Schmidt and crying child Afton is different people there not same person there Garrett like fill in for Charlie Crying child and his name it is crying child so it doesn't get confused with the movies au world books au world to.
He's referred as crying child that's how you refer to him as when you're talking about him. He's always been referred as crying child to
@@rad1165none of the books or games say that
Wolfie1740Kingdom himself doubts the name of the CC is Evan now. And HE STARTED it. PERSONALLY, I think the MOVIE had a hint (Crying Child's name is Garrett, anyone?)
Yeah, maybe, buts also Abby IS in No way a nickname for Elizabeth soooo . . . .IT Just never really fits propperly
@@SingingSealRianait is actually, it's an incredibly uncommon nickname, but a nickname none the less, it's also an anagram for baby
For the number puzzle, have I been well and truly Fibonacci'd?
Indeed you have
Well, you say confirming Mike and Michael are the same character shouldn't be a big deal, cause they have the same name, but this is a franchise with 3 separate Jeremys with, as far as I'm aware, no connection whatsoever 😅
Sometimes IT feels AS If Scott barely knows any more named then the ptholomes or one hundred years of solitude . . . .
@@SingingSealRiana I didn't expect to see those references here, but they make me happy
Honestly, I don't understand why there are 2 spirits in a book. Why did people decide that changed text is crying child? We found out about Cassidy's name by faded text and page number. However page number is changed text sometimes. So crying child's name is Cassidy, too? That doesn't make sense. We have seen that crying child was setted free in fnaf 3. And that he was passive in the all games. So what would he been doing in a logbook? I think that changed text and faded text is Cassidy's speech.
Unless he wasn't and there's a part of him seeking vengeance ergo a fractured soul.
can't say I was expecting a video on this topic, but it was very enjoyable! you covered most of the reason's I'm not a fan of the "Evan" solution. I also hadn't heard of the "it's michael" solution before, so even if it probably isn't right that was interesting to hear about. a few months ago I tried out some potential solutions with the actually drawing foxy idea, but i don't think i really got anywhere. maybe it's time to revisit the book. those damn tally marks haunt me...
also, I'd love to see more of these peer-review videos! I feel like there's a lot of theories that just kind of get taken for granted, so it can be useful to go back and review how we got there and what we actually know. not to mention entertaining!
The funny thing is,the logbook probably does give us Crying Child’s name. It’s Cassidy. I mean,the roles the two ghosts play mirror the Stitchwraith perfectly and in the Stitchwraith the Crying Child parallel is the one who can communicate and see and the vengeful spirit parallel can’t see or hear. Effectively,it’s the other way around,which also seems accurate to golden Freddy considering “It’s Me!” And the type of things the faded speaker knows about Mike
I've had this thought, but there's a Cassidy in the novels who's a girl and there's also an unexplained girl in the logbook that only really makes sense if it's Cassidy that also matches her description from the novels. It feels pretty clear that Cassidy is a girl, which does not line up with Crying Child (confirmed to be a boy in dialogue from FNAF 4 if the sprite wasn't enough).
Is it 100%? No, but I personally think that Cassidy is more likely the vengeful spirit/UCN kid than the Crying Child.
@@YellowSkarmory And that girl Cassidy was decidedly NOT the spirit inside Golden Freddy. The Golden Freddy spirit was Michael Brooks. Also,the Vengeful Spirit is also a boy considering he created UCN and everyone who mentions the One You Should Not Have Killed uses male pronouns. It’s also worth pointing out that in security breach there is a picture of a girl with pigtails on the fnaf 4 bed in the endo section so CC *could* have been retconned to be a girl,in a similar way to how Charlie was (Since originally it was Save Him)
@@birdmcturd1626Cassidy is a girl I. The logbook and Cassidy is talking to crying child
@@Rainbow_dash67. What’s your evidence that it’s not the other way around?
You're gonna love Dual Process Theory, if you haven't watched their video already. Give it a go.
Imagine if he's just called Michael Jr.
yo cool vid, loved the debunks, me personally? i think matpat is on to something with drawing a connectio between gregory from sb and the crying child
It doesn't help that there is a seperate Tally Mark puzzle being worked on from Security Breach and Ruin... I don't know yet if we had to bring in AR or either of the VR games and the DLC for the first one, so the Tallies might not be a part of this particular one...
Edit: which the Sticky Notes being potentially tied in might tie up the pictures as well, invalidating just about everything else... this is so rough, and I might need to take a deep dive instead when I've got the time to study up on cryptography and puzzle solving...
Edit2: For clarity, I was referring to the sticky notes in Ruin. Specifically, the glitched Ballon Boy arcade room that was hidden in the base game with that special Fazcam puzzle. You access the restored notes by looking at them with the VANNI mask on.
Crying Child's name has never been found.
Tbh even if Evan wasn't C.C's name, I'd prefer it over... *Chris*
Im very proud for guessing immediately that the answer to the number question was 8, and thatvyou add the previous number to the current one to get the next
I knew ever since the beggining that it was not going to work out. Back when this whole evan thing came to light, I already knew this was not right. That last letter was already missing and people just assumed. Its nice that you proved that this is not impossible, but at the same time not possible! We needed someone to talk about it on youtube !
I agree that the methodology behind finding Evan's name is very flawed, but I consider it to be harmless lore/headcanons. Mostly because while it can be important to know a character's name, it doesn't have to be necessary. Not to mention the story Blackbird from Fazbear's Frights features a father named Evan talking to his son Jake who is dying from a brain tumor at a hospital via a walkie talkie implanted inside a doll that distorts his voice (Familiar plotline wouldn't you agree?). Evan's only other living family is his brother Micheal who is described as a robot with bad programming who has a keen interest in finances. In other news, I just think making Evan the name of the CC just humanizes him and gives him a clearer point of reference, not to mention it differentiates him from his movie counterpart Garrett. Thank you for taking the time to go over this rampant mystery Chiptide.
I also have another FNAF idea you could possibly tackle in the future. Which is: How Strong is the Mimic? Because both in the books and in Ruin it's remarkably powerful for a shape-shifting copycat Endo.
In Tales from the Pizzaplex it can rip off all human limbs and heads off the body and pile them
and in Ruin it has two feats of strength. First one is when it manages to push the forklift that freed it out of the way, an average forklift is about 9000 lbs, yikes. Number 2 is when its head dents the elevator bar door, it forces its arm off, and it crushes one of the bars like alumminum. Could you calculate how strong it would need to be to do that?
“It’s Michael” could mean mike is CC, which is a common theory.
Can everyone please stop saying EVAN when that isn't EVEN A CANON name in the series?!
There's only 1 exotic butters in the page. The other basket on the left actually has money bunched and wrapped up in there.
this video felt so validating as someone who has always said the "Evan" theory never made any sense for the exact reasons in this video
unrelated but the FNaF Movie basically just confirms CC as "Garrett" so I feel like the debate should rest now
"It's Michael" could confirm that the Bite Victim is somehow aware of Michael being there, but I feel like they wouldn't be messing with any random security guard's logbook anyway. 😄
Even if we get the answer, Scott is never going to give us a straight answer on if we got it right or not. He is a troll. A bad DM. He’s out to defeat us who enjoy his work. As long as we keep that in mind, we will have some fun despite him.
That's a little aggro of you lol
I always hate when they say "Evan"
Fr and what's more cringe is it came from a gacha kid
IIRC there was a person who used Happiest Day to solve it and still got Evan
Okay, real quick, love the FNAF 6 fire music in the background of the beginning! I swear, editors of all these videos (not just your's) need more recognition these days.
I'm telling you, the FNAF 6 soundtrack. Does. Not. Miss. Glad you liked the editing!
@@TheChiptide Honestly, how could I not? Richard does a real fine job!
12:17 bro got it on accident lol
I came back for this bc I swore I remembered him saying "Evad" as a name. we were SO CLOSE
this is why im not sold on the dave theory either. you get "evad", and then reverse it using the mirror (which says "what do you see"). thats actually really cool. but to connect "do you have dreams" to "im scared" it uses the michael drawing of nightmare. it feels too much like a stretch.
less of a stretch then Evan
@Andyhd-cx5bm i think they're equally a stretch
@@stagelights_ Dave is better.
We know that EVA works perfectly and we just can't find the last letter.
Every Letter was solved through Crying child answering Cas.
Cas has many other question and "do you have dream" with the help of mike is the only logical question that work with "I'm scared".
If I remember correctly, not even Wolfie1740Kingdom fully believed in the solution or the method he used to get it.
There is nothing that makes me click off a theory more than someone calling him Evan, my personal pet peeve. CC is not hard to say. So thank you for this
I always thought people assuming the evan theory to be canon was insane.
The answer to that number puzzle you put in is: adding the previous number with the current number. As for example. If we start with the number 1 with nothing before it. Its 0 + 1 = 1. Then with are new current 1. We add the previous 1 behind it. So 1 + 1 = 2. This is why it goes 2, 3, 5, cause if we're at 3 and we add the previous number. We get 2 + 3 = 5. (There is probably an easier and quicker way to say what I just said but I just wanted to solve the number puzzle.)
Its just the fibonacci sequence lol
@@VirisRJ Thanks for explaining my 2 page paragraph explanation in one sentence.
@@DavidExists-bw7kc no problem xd
I think the crying child's name would be similar to Gregory's name. Because Cassidy name is similar to cassie.
you mean Garrett like in the movie?
@@777SilverPhoenix777 maybe
While yeah the Evan theory doesn't make much sense as a puzzle, there is something that gives it more credit
In Fazbear Frights books, (partly parallel, partly it's own thing, and with some hints of actual canon) one of the characters is named Evan, who has a brother named Michael
I think his name is Garret? But that's like putting dots together with the movie.
Why isn't Abby named Elizabeth then?
@@maas1208 Because the movie is a different continuity. Ah...
I see, like the video said, if it doesnt work in every case then it doesnt work. I guess not but that's the best guess I have currently.
@@maas1208i mean
abby is a nickname for elizabeth lmao
I’d be happy with any name, but I’d love if it were something snazzy like Johann or Alejandro
William.
Elizabeth.
Michael.
Alejandro.
Literally no big fnaf lore youtuber says E.... that name, just crying child
Due to the short length of the number sequence 1,2,3,5, there are many sequences that contain 1,2,3,5, the Fibonacci Sequence being the most famous. It could also be the number of partitions of the positive integers, 1 having 1 partition, 2 having 2, 3 having 3, and 4 having 5. It could be the squarefree numbers, positive integers that don't have a perfect square greater than 1 as a factor. The exception of 1 is actually very important in this case, because if you did not exclude 1, it is trival to see you would have the empty set. Unlike the previous examples, squarefree numbers actually has the first four terms be 1,2,3,5, instead of just containing 1,2,3,5 somewhere. If you allow for any sequence containing 1,2,3,5, just to be the n, n+1, n+2, n+3 terms, then the amount of solutions just in the OEIS is 4564. The partitions sequence usually starts with the partitions of zero, not one. But that is not the only sequence that has the first four terms be 1,2,3,5, it could also be the primeth recurrence. The first prime is 2, the second prime is 3 and the 3rd prime is 5, giving the sequence 1,2,3,5, or many other things.
Using the hint, the OEIS says there are 1407 results. Typically the Fibonnaci sequence has starts with zero, so that is not likely. Partitions are now looking more likely, because the first 5 terms are 1,1,2,3,5. It could also be the floor of (3^n/2^n), or again many other things. My guess is the Partions of non negative integers.
I decided to delete my original post and just make a new one. What if it’s Luis? Time for an explanation.
So remember the code that gets us Cassidy? The same code also gets us Luis GF (or Golden Freddy). In Matpat’s video “FNAF STUMPED Me!” he gets the code 52, 39, 15, (7 and 2), (10 and 11), and 8:11 from specific pages in the book. He adds the numbers from each page together (5+2=7, 3+9=12, 1+5=6, 7+2=9, 10+11=21, 8+11=19) to get the code 7, 12, 6, 9, 21, and 19. Put that in the Foxy Grid and you get GLFIUS. When unscrambled you get LUIS GF (Golden Freddy).
Now the original code (52, 39, 15, (7 and 2), (10 and 11), and 8:11) is used another way to get Cassidy.
Is it a stretch that Luis is the Crying Child’s real name? Probably but I do still think it is an important name to keep note of.
Seems like the easiest way for someone to solve this one would be to have a puzzle solver with no knowledge of the franchise try.
Our need to fill it with satisfying answers obscured fans from doing it.
The anwser is clearly to use the letters on which pages foxy appears so for reference along with the actual 8bit foxys
I’ve always found it odd that the tally marks Mike makes seemingly aren’t used for anything. I definitely think there might be something there though the one that stumps me is the pages with the grouped tallies. Gotta go thru it again to see if I can figure anything out
11:19 is it digits 2-5 of the Fibonacci sequence -11:23 aaay
"or some 3rd character also named Mike, which would be dumb", but not impossible. This same series has 3 separate Jeremy's lmao
You are such a talented creator. Excellent videos, and your perfect in your narration and ideas.
Have anyone try the Activity given try redrawing Foxy Sprite from the game as seen in FNAF 3 for example? This puzzle weird and the my guess, maybe, Garrett might of been the answer mainly because the FNAF movie well different does tell use some stuff about this different version of Micheal who never had William as his father, what if Garrett the same?
IS everyone gonna tell him that he IS the canditate For the new fnaf guy
If people are looking to me to be the new FNAF lore guy, I got some bad new, this game is never being solved!
you should be the new matpat since he is leaving,
tho will never forget him...@@TheChiptide
@@TheChiptide Are you shure about that
Petition to start calling cc scared!!!
I imagine part of the solution involves, "Rounding to the nearest whole number..." Too bad my math education was so inconsistent from frequent moving and the terrible death knell to US education that was "No Child Left Behind" (thanks, Bush Jr, you monster).
The answer is always add the next number. The true first one in the sequence is 0. So 0,1,1,2,3,5.
0+1=1
1+1=2
1+2=3
2+3=5
I've actually seen this one back in highschool and I'm also a "no child left behind" survivor. Blame the inadequate distribution of wealth in this country if you must blame anything.
people who say crying child's name is Evan >:(
people who say crying child's name is Mike >:(
me who knows crying child's name is crying child :)
If the 1 is before than the answer is 8…but if it’s not than it’s 7 as an order of prime numbers
Here before the comments get locked from the ppl lighting pitchforks and picking up their torches
Let them come, we will be ready.
I got a kid get so mad at me calling him the crying child because the log book proved it but the fans messed up some of the puzzles like this book is not from Fnaf 1 but most likely from Fnaf 3 and he started filling it out after sister location
tbh I never was convinced that crying child's name is 3van. (I put 3 instead of e bc my comment will get removed lol)
Oh crap, I should probably remove that filter now!
Neither was I, because THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF IT!
@@THE-CRT the evidence that is there is basically nothing. So when people brought it up I just thought everyone should keep trying.
@@TheChiptide lol probably a good idea :))
Honestly, the "I'm Springtrap" solution is probably just a reference to the old puzzle of how we originally got Springtrap's name
Literally as soon as you said you were getting corrected about The Crying Child's name and I literally went "Evans a fan name wtf are these guys talking about" I swear this is some Mandela shit
7:12 It would be very dumb but also unfortunately not unprecedented. I think there are at least three Jeremys in this franchise (boy stuffed into Bonnie, night guard Jeremy Fitzgerald, Help Wanted tester who tried to slice off the VR mask).
I loved how you used the “henry monologue” music for your intro rant 😂 great vid!
Dude's out here, doing damage control on a fandom that has long since spiralled out of control with theories. Godspeed, good man.
2:05 "if every number follow these rules" I liked that use of the present subjunctive. Very nice.
I'd love to see more of these peer review videos. Really interesting!
The fact that you can get to Springtrap and Michael at all is an oddly specific coincidence.
I'm sorry...this many people really believe Crying Child's name is proven to be Evan.
Clearly these people are not very careful about their FNAF lore.
>Clearly these people are not very careful about their FNAF lore.
Dont forget as well, the ideas that "the Bite of 83 is a Springlock Failure" and "Burntrap just never existed/was always literally Mimic" too :V
at 12:15 i had a thought that it might not be the crying child's name, but one of William's aliases as Evad is just Dave backwards and in the books they called him Dave Miller (or something like that)
Micheal: Evan... Don't go ...
Crying Child: My Name's not Evan, Bro
**Crying Child shoots Micheal, bed becomes a spaceship**
Add the current number to the previous number to get the next number.
1: 0 + 1 = 1 (0 would be null, or NaN [not a number], which could have 0 plugged in for it)
1: 1 + 1 = 2
2: 2 + 1 = 3
3: 3 + 2 = 5
If it continued, it would be 8 next, then 13, 21, 34, 55, and so on.
Edit: Yeah, it doesn't seem like "Evan" is the Crying Child's name. I think people latched onto the name since it gave the community something to call the Crying Child other than, well... "Crying Child". After all, some people, maybe most don't want to say "Crying Child" over and over in a FNAF video, especially if it's multiple hours. I think "C.C." is a better name, or rather placeholder name for the Crying Child due to it being just the initials of "Crying Child".
hu you proved me wrong I thought his name was [REDACTED] apparently not
Only use the tally marks + page numbers for the foxy grid. I was thinking you should always flip the x and y axis for every try
15:30
The possible anweser could be "William Afton is the crying child"
a massive streach, doesn't make much sense, but it is the logical conclusion of him saying his name is Springtrap, could be worth a wild thought on what would that imply in the grand scheme of things
He's Toysnhk, who is also Kelsey in the books