I was around when Greyhawk was written and released. Yes, I'm that old. I have NEVER heard such an in-depth review of the regions' geopolitical issues, possible futures, and trade possibilities. I would be amazing to watch you run this setting.
Not that old, but was lucky enough to play in the setting back in 3.5 times, just as it was falling out of favor. My DM was big into this kind of stuff, so it's real nice to see it given such an expert examination.
I've met Gary and happen to be friends with his son Luke. I am returning to GreyHawk for the 1st time in roughly 16 years. Started in 2nd edition. So ow these videos are like Homework. Masterfully done.
I have only obsessed on Greyhawk. I've touched Gary, been to several early GenCons. I owned everything with the name Greyhawk in it's name. What bothered most of us at the time was the concentration of Elves and Dwarves in Ulek. Expanding out from that was lackluster at best.
Gygax didn't create that map, he ran his game in a copy of North America. Credit where it's due to Daphne. He put a ton of work into cultures but wasn't big on geography.
I am not trying to diminish anyone's efforts here but if you set out to make something based on real life (in this case Europe) and just modify some variables it will basically all fall into place to seem that it was intentional. Basically we're all reading too much into something that people probably never even thought of. It's kind of like looking at Old cave paintings and making the assumption it had some huge meaning to the people there but it could have just been something equal to the scribbles on the side of your homework. It's still cool and it has a lot of significance to us in the here and now but.. just keep that in mind.
If you look through the Greyhawk portfolio or the box set, you also see how different migrations of peoples from outside the Flanaees affected Greyhawk. Gygax was a student of history and how migrations affected the political and cultural landscape of Europe.
I really enjoy this series and look forward to more. The scholarly format reminds me of the blog series Dungeonomics which, as the title suggests, attempts to analyze the real world economics of a fantasy setting (it's more interesting than it sounds, I swear)
I watched this, then went back and watched your others. Amazing content all around. I have to pause every few minutes just to spend time contemplating how I can incorporate all of this into my own world building.
I started playing AD&D sometime around 86, and was born in the World of Greyhawk. Born a fire-giant inside of a volcano, I was changed by magic into Oerth's most renowned, highest level master Thief - a 6'8" Human with the strength of a titan (25), and a Dexterity of 19. I failed my lock-picking attempt? How? Oh, never mind, I boot the door. Splinters every time. This video almost made me a bit misty-eyed and homesick. I miss my group.
I love these Geopolitical breakdowns! One bit of feedback, maybe elucidate on how they applied to adventure modules or how a DM would use this information when developing a campaign. Thanks for all the hard work!
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I was wondering whether this analysis fit the politics described in official publications. _Were_ those two regions the location of great powers? Was the important city of Greyhawk located in either? Did Mr Gygax think of all these things on drawing the map or was it a more haphazard creative process? Interesting to ponder.
@@originaluddite The Great Kingdom was an empire that spread across the Flanaess, so yeah it was a big power at one time. Almost all the little Marches and Principalities broke off from it. Greyhawk City is located below the Nyr Dyv and it's power comes from gold, gems and trade supposedly.
I'm working on a whole series of fantasy Geopolitics videos. Stick around. I'll even be traveling to a university to get a Geopolitics certificate in April, so check out those live streams while I'll be studying!
Great production. Doesn't waste my time. Gives me plenty of information. Great delivery. Perhaps a dash of comedy would be great and more applicability to our games at home but I'm happy just to consume this content even if I never use it. Thank you!
This was really well done. And thanks ever so much for focusing on Greyhawk. We greyhawkistas desperately need more of this kind of content. I like how you're focusing on basins and riverine systems as grounding factors for geopolitical structures. For some time I've been developing descriptions of Greyhawk ecologies centred on normal (i.e. non-monstrous) flora and fauna. It began as an attempt to give each forest its own particular feel and form (specific arboreal species, distribution, soils, etc.), and prompted me to think on how different basins give rise to ecological niches and local productive systems. So I really loved that you say the Nyr Dyv region would naturally be populated by pastoralists, more than agriculturalists. That makes a huge difference - think of pastoralism as the anchor for medieval Iberia, while agriculture was the predominant system in parts of Central and Eastern Europe, and what that meant for how power was structured. All sorts of things are determined by these general environmental and geographical factors: what products characterize local and regional markets, and which ones become highly prized in faraway countries, hence giving rise to the relevance of certain trade routes along rivers and seas. I'm rambling now. Suffice to say your video stimulated my world-building juices. Keep up the good work!
i can't express how much this video rules! I love it! it is so useful not only for understanding the Greyhawk setting, but also in world building! I also have to commend the editing, specifically when various regions on a map are highlighted and the rest is darkened. BTW, I would love it if this channel would cover unrealistic geographical features in fantasy maps.
I’ll echo the requests for more Greyhawk content (I’m running Greyhawk currently), but I’d also love to see content on other classics like Hârn, Tekumel, Wilderlands of High Fantasy, and Alusia (from SPI’s DragonQuest). Keep up the awesome work!
For those wondering how a warlord might have keep a bunch of plains herders in line, we know that the Mongols used relay stations that kept extra horses ready for messengers to carry their notes back to whatever region they had to go to. A single man would change horses 3-4 times in a single day as they went from one relay station to the next so that the horse wouldn't get too tired travelling one long distance. The riders would also wear a plethora of bells so that their presence would be heard from far away. The caretaker of the relay station could get the rider's next horse saddled before they even arrived.
This was brilliant. I’ve been DMing a 5e campaign based in the Yeomanry in 576 CY for the past few years. With the information you’ve provided here I have an even more solid reason for the Scarlet Brotherhood (still largely mysterious and seemingly benevolent to the rulers of the Sheldomar) to influence the economic plans of Keoland and her neighbors. Keeping trade flowing between Niole Dra and the See of Medegia is in their best interest! I’m looking forward to any additional Greyhawk content you might like to cover. If you haven’t seen her work, Anna B. Meyer has been making some amazing maps of the Flanaess, and did an interview on Lord Gosumba’s Twitch stream where she described the prehistory of the Flanaess and Oerik, touching on everything from Glacial Periods to ancient centers of civilization.
Great work, man! This might be my favorite one yet. When ever I try my hand at map making, proper geographical layout is always such a mystery to me. I know how big of an impact it can have on the world, but I feel like I'm just randomly throwing things out there. This video definitely helps clarify things for me.
I just found your channel and I have to say... I am loving these videos that do a geopolitical analysis of D&D maps. Hope there is a plan to take a geopolitical lens to the continent of Khorvaire of Eberron fame.
Hey man! Just wanted to let you know that I have been binging everything on your channel since yesterday evening, and you have quickly become one of, if not my favorite channel on youtube. Your content is incredibly underrated, excellent work!
Seconded! I stumbled on the Nobility video (so good), and have been watching the rest back-to-back since then. I'm only sad I'm about to run out of new videos 😅 I particularly love these geopolitical breakdowns, and would love to see more. It always bugs me when these things aren't considered in mapmaking. I see you're already planning on Eberron, which I'm looking forward to. Maybe a look at Golarion, from Pathfinder?
One thing I would add is the extreme economic importance of the Nyr Dyv and the Selintan and Nesser Rivers that connect it to the rest of the world’s oceans. The cities of Greyhawk and others, economic powerhouses, sprung up on these and excluding the Bandit Kingdoms, the nations in the Nyr Dyv basin (Furyondy, Nyrond, Urnst, Shield Lands) are actually quite economically powerful due to this! Dyvers too at the mouth of the Velverdyva connects those trade routes to Veluna, Perrenland, and Highfolk. I would argue that the Nyr Dyv and her rivers are much more economically important to the continental trade system then the Azure Sea, especially considering the highly precarious political situation of the Tilva Strait compared to the relatively stable northern Azure Sea and Sea of Gearnat.
What a wonderful discussion!! Marvelous content and production value! Your video has kind of created a little buzz in the Greyhawk community! ... you're **so** spot on about so many things. It's fascinating to look at some of the nations and regions from this perspective. Hadn't *ever* considered some of the "reasons why" behind some evens in GH's "history". One caveat-obviously there's some lore reasons some of your theories are a bit off, but that's stuff one could only know if they really got deeper into the lore and such. Like Ekul on the Tilvanot Peninsula is populated by an evil organization intent on world domination and they'd never involve themselves with any of the other nations ... but, your point about the Tilva Strait still remains, though it's not so much "pirates" as it "Scarlet Brotherhood navy", but, still. Fantastic discussion! This will *absolutely* be a bookmarked video, and it'll come up in later research for articles and such on GreyhawkOnline and in the Oerth Journal! Kudos!
The early RPG guys were wargamers. There was even an idea that the "end game" for D&D would have been each player taking control of a kingdom each and fighting each other. Nowadays, it's like, we need a theme park Arabian nights zone, we need a cute home territory for our playable lizard men, and so on.
I very very much enjoy this type of content, and I am 100% here for every video like this. Sooooo many other channels are dedicated to how to make broken character builds or monster encounters, but very few actually speak on the climate/setting, and how the regional differences in topography can and should have a VERY real impact in your campaigns. Suffice to say, I've taken a good number of notes about the kinds of resources and regional interests there could/should be, and it's going to lend tremendously to the sense of realism and immersion in my DM'ing! Thank you so much for these vids!
Thanks, Baron, for visiting Frog God Games' Frog Chat tonight! I am commenting here because I didn't have any other way to contact you. This is my favorite video of yours because I've been a Greyhawk fan since 1983.
... And-21 months later-this video still continues to be relevant and discussed, and has been linked in at least one chat forum not less than three times in the last two months!
I wonder how the societies of dwarves and gnomes would influence in the geopolitical issues of the human civilizations. Since they control much of the ore trade and are (usually) great warriors and and have no small amount of magical priests, they could be the real group moving the threads on the continent.
Gosh - this video could not have been better timed for me! Such an interesting, insightful, and informative way to look at the game worlds. Thank you! I'm just about to start a Greyhawk campaign with my brother - we haven't hung out there for at least 35 years and thought it was time for some nostalgic adventuring.
I’m currently writing a campaign for this setting to run for 5e player’s who’ve never heard of Greyhawk and your video has given me a bit more confidence in giving me materials to build on in my writing.
Amazing, I'll never look at the Flanaess the same again! Man, I love how Greyhawk is making a comeback among players, lots of fresh eyes on a glorious old world.
I often don't agree with your videos, but that's what I love you get straight to the point in an entraining format. So if I hate the vid, it will pass by quick. Great videos keep it up.
Great video! With Greyhawk in new DMG many DMs will be interesting in "new" setting and how to make it little bit their own. We need more videos like this! Thank you for your great work.
As someone running a Greyhawk campaign for 5e using a converted 1e module, this is pretty accurate to the lore I've scrounged up. Keoland and The Great Kingdom are the two powerhouses on the continent (discounting the titular Free City of Greyhawk sitting in that southern peninsula in Nyr Dyv). Keoland expanded upwards, founding the Gran March from an order of knights known for its cavalry units. Gran March steadily began separating from them as a militaristic buffer state, but not so much that they lose Keoland's trade. In more recent history, Gran March more or less annexed and took Bissel as both a puppet state and buffer against northern aggression (mostly from Ket, Veluna is itself closer to an autonomous protectorate than a puppet). Following a war with giants as they invaded FROM the Barrier Peaks, the Duchy of Geoff similarly became beholden to Gran March as their military might was needed to fight them off, and they're stuck somewhere between a nation of refugees trying to rebuild getting razed by giants, while Gran March has them occupied "for security." They're slowly becoming the dominant power militarily, but Keoland still has stronger trade routes (even with their former territories becoming more independent), so it's hard to tell what will come of those two. The three Uleks are three countries each lead by a different race: elves, dwarves, and a mixture of humans and halflings, and are all quite friendly with each other and their bigger neighbors, but not enough to formally become Big Ulek. There is no reason given why they all chose the same name, either. The Wild Coast on the east side of the Lortmils are Elven lands, that as far as I know are content with their lands as elves are wont to do, being long-lived and sedentary, and are usually considered amicable to all except whatever dark creatures manage to pop up in the farther reaches of the woods, for which they're vigilant in either quashing themselves or seeking aid when deemed necessary. The Valley of the Mage, on the other hand, is extremely isolationist and distrusted by its neighbors. Mostly on account of being populated by peoples construed as evil (some truth to that, they have a magical archmage with a drow queen running a democratic dictatorship that kills sorcerer babies "for security"), but also due to its sheer defensive stature in the middle of a mountain range with a haunted Dim Forest between them and the outside world. Interesting you note the unified identity however. It's theorized that in the past, the empire of a little-known mage called Vecna encompassed darn near everything between The Hold of the Sea Princes and the Bramblewood Forest, stretching to the western coast of Nyr Dyv. That is of course, until the archlich was betrayed by his second-in-command, the two appeared to have offed each other in a climactic battle, and with both leaders gone the empire shattered. As for the Great Kingdom (which I've read much less about), after a time of strife known as the Greyhawk Wars, their country has similarly fallen apart, and is notorious for corrupt infighting between its noble families, in no small part due to many of those families having ties to cults to dark powers. Still powerful but in a state of decline, it's current issues are that it's desperately trying to cling to what alliances it has with its frontier territories now becoming nations in their own right, optimistically but unrealistically hoping it can re-exert its influence and become a unified country again. That peninsula with The Scarlet Brotherhood is also a massive thorn in their side, as they're despots that actively ally themselves with pirate slavers that have been running rampant in the Sea of Gearnat, severely gimping both Almor and Medgia's trade outside, and in a strange twist for an evil country are actually forcing those countries together.
I'm also running a serious campaign in the Keoland Valley region. Do you have any dragons in your campaign? how do they impact the region are they constantly a threat to the kingdom's stability and prosperity? Do your dragons respect treaties or have alliances in the region? I see the ancient dragons as microstates with nuclear privileges, a constant annoyance occasionally destabilizing the region with the kingdom's uniting temporarily to fight off or paying enough tribute to appease the dragons temporarily for a generation or two in human years if they are lucky. I have a young Black Dragon Aulicus contesting the Hool swamp, allianced with Sakatha the Lizard king constantly attacking the southern village of Wycombe, stopping trade from the Hold of Sea Princess. in the north Bissel is destabilized with constant marauding Iuz forces. The PCs are in The Grand Marches holding off the more frequent blitzing of Iuz forces, the Giants to the northwest in the Duchy of Geoff have broken their alliance with Keoland the Drow have something to do with this. you can email me at dj_flashpoint@yahoo.com I'd like to bounce some ideas off you.
Great series, and some very enlightening points on geography effecting geopolitics. This is what I love about worldbuilding: using our knowledge of the real world to better understand how created worlds would function. One minor suggestion: you said that the Comanche largely eliminated other tribes, but what really happened was more displacement, with the Apaches, for example, being pushed further West. Similar displacement happened with the Huns, Mongols, and other rising groups, leading to domino style invasions by displaced peoples. Another useful dynamic to consider, if you're interested :)
This video was really well done. Considering that Greyhawk is an older setting, and perhaps not as popular as some other D&D campaign settings, I'm amazed that this video has achieved the traction that it has. Good work!
Another amazing video. What I want to see is a map of your campaign world and what your geopolitical thoughts were as you created it, and how the geopolitics influenced your worldbuilding and ultimately your campaigns run in your own world!
Lol which one? My campaign settings are so disposable. I throw them in the trash every six months when I get bored with it hahah. I just use the concepts for quest hook ideation. I'll be doing videos of local areas in fearun soon, to supplement that gap in my current videos
@@DungeonMasterpiece Let me know when you are about to throw the next one in the trash and I will e-mail you my address and pay the postage and you can send it to me. I look forward to seeing it! Thanks.
I’m looking at starting a Ghost of Salt Marsh campaign. This breakdown of the region does really help me get an understanding of the area. I’m not going to follow the book to the letter but a video like this helps me build more fleshed out threats.
Subscribing, this is such a good thing to talk about for D&D! That said; I am a frequent dungeon master, but I have never used official WOTC campaign settings. They're still great to hear about, because they're popular and good example studies, but I'd also love to see other things. Matt Colville, for instance, is massively popular on D&D UA-cam, and is widely known for his world building. I'd love to see critiques of, or even collaborations with, people like him, or Mercer of course (I don't follow him, but many do), or others. For now though this is still very helpful for me as a DM, and I'll keep watching, thanks!
Greyhawk was and remains my favorite D&D setting. Such a masterpiece & so much gamability as well, whereas other settings drown you under tons and tons of lore
Thanks for the video! I really like Greyhawk for some reason, and am planning a campaign in Geoff, inspired by the happenings in Living Greyhawk. It really helps to have those things in perspective! If I may be so bold, however, I think it would be nice if you could, based on your analysis in this video, go more in depth into the History of these regions, see if they match with what you'd expect from this previous analysis, and go into the implications of this being a fantasy world (for example, Geoff and Sterich fell to giants that came in flying castles)! Anyways, keep up the great work!
The Geopolitical videos take SOOOO much time to write, that doing those kinds of dives would probably take me a week of editing and 3 months of research. Not that such a thing would be bad, I just wouldn't have time to make weekly content.
@@DungeonMasterpiece Oooooh, that makes a lot of sense, especially because you'd have to dive into several boxed sets that might not even be too easy to come across (no idea if they're available in DriveThruRPG). Oh, well, if you ever get big enough to get a writing and editing crew (and I hope you do, I love your content!) and this becomes more feasible, I hope you can get around to going even more in-depth in these videos! Cheers!
I loved this. I actually have a character from the tilvanot peninsula. It’s currently controlled by the scarlet brotherhood. Before the brotherhood took over the Suel people were ruled by an emperor and a conventional monarchy. But then there was this revolution where this cult took over. Anyhow my man belongs to one of the noble families that survived the war and was eventually re-settled on the peninsula. In addition given some compensation and honorary titles. More like a cozy exile. He ended up being a political/ aristocratic agitator getting into sword fights and other trouble with his coterie of hangers on. Like any young noble you might see in a Shakespeare play set in a merchant city state lol.
Also don't forget the population migration patterns that complicate this whole situation even more! The proposed Sheldomar relationship with Pomarj and Wild coast reminds me of the satellite state system of the USSR.
Just discovered your channel and binged every video. Absolutly love the geopolitics videos and would love to see more fantasy maps and worlds anaylzed!
i’ve not watched the video yet, but i wanted to drop a comment on the most recent post to say that you are fast becoming far and away my favourite d&d-oriented youtube content creator :) keep up the good work buddy
You are my favourite rpg youtuber, great topics and exposition! I'd love to see a video about the impact of magic on social hierarchies. Keep it up, subscribed!
Another fantastic video. An excellent explanation of the Greyhawk setting, and delivering an awesome method for DMs to deepen their world building using geopolitics. Such a refreshing take on how to improve games. Please keep up the good work! Would love to get your take on the Underdark setting.
I only discovered this channel about two weeks ago and I've watched your viewership almost double in size since then. You're making great content, and people seem to be taking notice. Keep up the great work!
I've literally never seen a video of yours before, and I got to see this one before it hit 500 views. UA-cam algorithm is wacky, but I'm grateful for it landing this gem in my lap.
Fascinating! Supposedly Grayhawk is also implied to be world after a huge Magic fueled Nuclear War. This could also mean that their is some semblance of "the times before" however of if history, Anthropology and archeology are any sources, human memory, without writing is pretty short.
The Sea of Dust (which was written about in Gary Gygax's Sea of Death novel) is the remains of the heart of the Suel Imperium. They had a big war with the Baklunish, in the past. The war ended with the Twin Cataclysms (which was the two sides blasting each other's empires out of existence).
A breath of fresh air in fantasy RPG commentary. I will say French "stability" in the medieval and early modern period is a bit of a misleading overview. The territories that made up France mostly consisted of numerous palatinate vassals whose loyalty to the French Crown was often in question. Consider the Hundred Years War as a broad example. The concept of the nation state is relatively new.
I see your point. But there still was a French dauphin the whole 100 years, even if there were a few regions who flip-flopped for the English (who had claim to the French throne anyway, so it was a reasonable "french" behavior lol)
@@DungeonMasterpiece I think the key here is that you describe it as the French "nation", not nation-State. In that regard, your comment holds up: the French nation (i.e. a people presenting a sense of collective identity congregated around a set of values, symbols, principles, language(s), but especially a central leadership figure, including a dauphin) is stable, even while its component subnational territories and regional powers (feudal lords, landed gentry, what have you) might be subject to instability. My two cents'
Interesting video! Concerning the geopolitics of D&D worlds, it would be interesting to compare the maps of pre and post cataclysm Ansalon (Dragonlance) and see how the changed geography would impact things in the 350 years or so between the Cataclysm and the War of the Lance.
Good video. Personally I don't think the Sheldomar would look to the Wild Coast and Pomarj for anything other than conflict given those areas are heavily populated by Orcs and other humanoids, as well as slavers. Luckily, Sheldomar has the various Ulek states between them and the coast; Ulek is populated by friendly demi humans ... dwarves, elves, halflings etc... and they are constantly vigilant against humanoid incursions from their eastern border.
And the Pomarj became overrun by humanoids that had settled in The Lortmils when the dwarves launched The Hateful Wars in CY 498-510. They drove them out of the mountains, right down into the Pomarj, which created a gigantic thorn in the side of all the nations around them. Thus you get The Slavelords (who end up being catspaws/tools of the Eilservs/Tormtor Elder Elemental God worshiping faction of the drow in Erelhei-Cinlu). The Pomarj was originally subject to the Prince of Ulek (and thus the King of Keoland after a fashion).
Superb analysis! Highlights really help the viewer. Historical comparisons are priceless. I Just subscribed. I hope to see more of this. It would also be great to see a further breakdown, focusing on only one of the smaller areas of a given map, with lots of details on the cultural impacts. Great video!
something I think you missed was deep water ports for trade thesilt from a river mouth can reduce the depth of the port near its mouth, this is why Hong Kong is a trading monolith and Macau located in approximately the same area has resorted to casino tourism to make a living
I made a homebrew retrace of the Flanaess for my Ghosts of Saltmarsh campaign. I then made the mistake to assume that the Flanaess was the entire planet(land) of Greyhawk and I wondered why the origfinal measurement was too small... So I multiplied it 4x... then discovered there was the rest of the world... then decided to make it canon that this world of mine is about 4x the size of Earth... which makes travelling a concern but oh well haha. Players are having fun so Im having fun!
Pretty cool, something to consider, forests are a greater asset for these regions than in the real world for the presumable presence of elves. Elves' more advanced culture will be of great influence to other people in their regions.
Elves in DnD land live whenever, they have subraces discriminated by ecosystem like Sea Elves, Mountain Elves, Ice Elves... The most advanced ones or High Elves usually live in "The West" a la Tolkien (not in the sense of geographic direction, but in remote isles or places that are the original homeland of their race and only elves can reasonably reach). It is so in Forgotten Realms, Eberron and various other places, although cultures of course vary from setting to setting. Regardless of subrace and culture elves are indeed on averange more advanced than other races, but most regular kingdoms would probably still just meet relatively small forest or coastal communities roughly on their same level, good trading partners for sure but not enought to "uplift" human cultures on their own.
I'll be getting my geopolitical analysis certification with Stratfor intelligence group in April. Check out my community page for the live stream updates that I'll be doing while I'm studying for it.
Your video just raised the bar on future Greyhawk setting video content superb editing, and tempo it was like watching a historical documentary. Profound explanation of conflicts based on territory and not government powers. are you planning to make videos about regional powers in the Greyhawk setting? I'm genuinely interested in the Keoland Valley territories from Bissle to the Hold of the Sea Princes.
A question: Based on geography, that's what you would expect. Does the lore of the setting match this analysis? With a video title asking a question, I admit, I expected an answer to the question in the video. That said, I love the work you're doing. You've obviously done some homework. Quality is top-notch.
Greyhawk, dragonlance, dark sun, eberron are some of my most favorite settings. Geopolitical issues and cultural differences are my favorite topics to put into dnd it makes things so much more alive. It pisses off my players when they get stonewalled for being a elf or orc but it allows for interesting ways that makes them get creative or out right killing that npc
Neat, I'd heard of this world setting before but never played in it when I still played DnD in high school, we'd just make up our own worlds. I think I'll take a close look at this one.
Why would the Prelacy of Almor catch the brunt of tribal raiders? Would the raiders ride past Ratik, Bone March and other states? Are you saying they would be raiders from Bone March? If so , then why wouldn't the North Province also get an equal share of that action.
I never could get my head around the Great Kingdom of Aerdy. Like what is? A ghost empire now? Nobody goes in and comes out. There no trade. There's rumours of demons roaming around even after thr Crook of Rao was found. The emperor is possibly a Lich? And there's a Loom?
I was around when Greyhawk was written and released. Yes, I'm that old. I have NEVER heard such an in-depth review of the regions' geopolitical issues, possible futures, and trade possibilities. I would be amazing to watch you run this setting.
We're not "old" we just know better.
Also that old here... 😬
Not that old, but was lucky enough to play in the setting back in 3.5 times, just as it was falling out of favor. My DM was big into this kind of stuff, so it's real nice to see it given such an expert examination.
I've met Gary and happen to be friends with his son Luke. I am returning to GreyHawk for the 1st time in roughly 16 years. Started in 2nd edition. So ow these videos are like Homework. Masterfully done.
I have only obsessed on Greyhawk. I've touched Gary, been to several early GenCons. I owned everything with the name Greyhawk in it's name. What bothered most of us at the time was the concentration of Elves and Dwarves in Ulek. Expanding out from that was lackluster at best.
So the essence is that Gary was a genius at this stuff. He really was. Adventure design, and world building.
Amazing what a career of wargame design will do
@@DungeonMasterpiece it really is!
Gygax didn't create that map, he ran his game in a copy of North America. Credit where it's due to Daphne. He put a ton of work into cultures but wasn't big on geography.
I am not trying to diminish anyone's efforts here but if you set out to make something based on real life (in this case Europe) and just modify some variables it will basically all fall into place to seem that it was intentional.
Basically we're all reading too much into something that people probably never even thought of. It's kind of like looking at Old cave paintings and making the assumption it had some huge meaning to the people there but it could have just been something equal to the scribbles on the side of your homework. It's still cool and it has a lot of significance to us in the here and now but.. just keep that in mind.
@@DungeonMasterpiece Do videos on Dragonlance Geopolitical world Krynn..
If you look through the Greyhawk portfolio or the box set, you also see how different migrations of peoples from outside the Flanaees affected Greyhawk. Gygax was a student of history and how migrations affected the political and cultural landscape of Europe.
I really enjoy this series and look forward to more. The scholarly format reminds me of the blog series Dungeonomics which, as the title suggests, attempts to analyze the real world economics of a fantasy setting (it's more interesting than it sounds, I swear)
I'll look it up!
As a DM who enjoys his sandbox games, that sounds about as far from boring as it can be. :D
That podcast sounds sick as Hell!
Could you possibly dm me the channel? Can't seem to find anything relevant by this name
@@materiaproductions8653 It's not a channel, it's a series of articles on Critical-Hits by Multiplexer.
This is amazing! I'm working on making a Greyhawk campaign currently, and I'm a complete noob to the setting, so this helps a lot!
I watched this, then went back and watched your others. Amazing content all around. I have to pause every few minutes just to spend time contemplating how I can incorporate all of this into my own world building.
I started playing AD&D sometime around 86, and was born in the World of Greyhawk.
Born a fire-giant inside of a volcano, I was changed by magic into Oerth's most renowned, highest level master Thief - a 6'8" Human with the strength of a titan (25), and a Dexterity of 19.
I failed my lock-picking attempt? How?
Oh, never mind, I boot the door.
Splinters every time.
This video almost made me a bit misty-eyed and homesick.
I miss my group.
I love these Geopolitical breakdowns! One bit of feedback, maybe elucidate on how they applied to adventure modules or how a DM would use this information when developing a campaign. Thanks for all the hard work!
Good feedback! I'll see what I can think up on the next one! Appreciate this comment!
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think I made video about it///maybe on biblefire channel...yt killed me on 3/11...again.
I was wondering whether this analysis fit the politics described in official publications. _Were_ those two regions the location of great powers? Was the important city of Greyhawk located in either? Did Mr Gygax think of all these things on drawing the map or was it a more haphazard creative process? Interesting to ponder.
@@originaluddite The Great Kingdom was an empire that spread across the Flanaess, so yeah it was a big power at one time. Almost all the little Marches and Principalities broke off from it. Greyhawk City is located below the Nyr Dyv and it's power comes from gold, gems and trade supposedly.
Got sent this by a friend who knows I'm into worldbuilding. Great stuff, subscribed. Hope for more of this stuff in the future.
I'm working on a whole series of fantasy Geopolitics videos. Stick around. I'll even be traveling to a university to get a Geopolitics certificate in April, so check out those live streams while I'll be studying!
@@DungeonMasterpiece Dope, I'll stay tuned for sure!
@@DungeonMasterpiece That's great! You must be very excited!
@@everthingtotal8798 and stressed out hahah.
Great production. Doesn't waste my time. Gives me plenty of information. Great delivery. Perhaps a dash of comedy would be great and more applicability to our games at home but I'm happy just to consume this content even if I never use it. Thank you!
My comedy comes off as WAAAYY too snarky for the internet so I just don't hahah
@@DungeonMasterpiece And we wouldn't want to insult someone on the Internet, no siree! ;)
@@LimDul lol my HarmonQuest video or carrot cake osr are good example of how dry my humor is lol 😂
This was really well done. And thanks ever so much for focusing on Greyhawk. We greyhawkistas desperately need more of this kind of content. I like how you're focusing on basins and riverine systems as grounding factors for geopolitical structures. For some time I've been developing descriptions of Greyhawk ecologies centred on normal (i.e. non-monstrous) flora and fauna. It began as an attempt to give each forest its own particular feel and form (specific arboreal species, distribution, soils, etc.), and prompted me to think on how different basins give rise to ecological niches and local productive systems.
So I really loved that you say the Nyr Dyv region would naturally be populated by pastoralists, more than agriculturalists.
That makes a huge difference - think of pastoralism as the anchor for medieval Iberia, while agriculture was the predominant system in parts of Central and Eastern Europe, and what that meant for how power was structured.
All sorts of things are determined by these general environmental and geographical factors: what products characterize local and regional markets, and which ones become highly prized in faraway countries, hence giving rise to the relevance of certain trade routes along rivers and seas.
I'm rambling now. Suffice to say your video stimulated my world-building juices. Keep up the good work!
Glad you are finding it inspiring enough to ramble though! Maybe I'll do some other regions of oerth in the future
i can't express how much this video rules! I love it! it is so useful not only for understanding the Greyhawk setting, but also in world building!
I also have to commend the editing, specifically when various regions on a map are highlighted and the rest is darkened.
BTW, I would love it if this channel would cover unrealistic geographical features in fantasy maps.
Glad you enjoy the videos! I'll probobly get into that some when I talk about Ebberon in the future.
@@DungeonMasterpiece ohh yes, can't wait for that
I’ll echo the requests for more Greyhawk content (I’m running Greyhawk currently), but I’d also love to see content on other classics like Hârn, Tekumel, Wilderlands of High Fantasy, and Alusia (from SPI’s DragonQuest). Keep up the awesome work!
The force that threatens to unite the Nyr Dyv region is Iuz, ruled by Iuz the son of Tasha and Grazzt. He is basically Greyhawk's answer to Sauron.
For those wondering how a warlord might have keep a bunch of plains herders in line, we know that the Mongols used relay stations that kept extra horses ready for messengers to carry their notes back to whatever region they had to go to. A single man would change horses 3-4 times in a single day as they went from one relay station to the next so that the horse wouldn't get too tired travelling one long distance. The riders would also wear a plethora of bells so that their presence would be heard from far away. The caretaker of the relay station could get the rider's next horse saddled before they even arrived.
Damn, i thought i was the last living greyhawk fan. Nice to know its not dead👍
It also debunks the idea that Gygax didn’t know what he was doing.
This 'geopolitical analysis' series is great! I haven't heard this kind of discussion before, and the insights are both fascinating and inspiring...
This was brilliant. I’ve been DMing a 5e campaign based in the Yeomanry in 576 CY for the past few years. With the information you’ve provided here I have an even more solid reason for the Scarlet Brotherhood (still largely mysterious and seemingly benevolent to the rulers of the Sheldomar) to influence the economic plans of Keoland and her neighbors. Keeping trade flowing between Niole Dra and the See of Medegia is in their best interest!
I’m looking forward to any additional Greyhawk content you might like to cover. If you haven’t seen her work, Anna B. Meyer has been making some amazing maps of the Flanaess, and did an interview on Lord Gosumba’s Twitch stream where she described the prehistory of the Flanaess and Oerik, touching on everything from Glacial Periods to ancient centers of civilization.
I need to reach out to her. The gentleman I consulted with for the video pointed me out to her too.
Great work, man! This might be my favorite one yet. When ever I try my hand at map making, proper geographical layout is always such a mystery to me. I know how big of an impact it can have on the world, but I feel like I'm just randomly throwing things out there. This video definitely helps clarify things for me.
Glad you enjoy it!
More Greyhawk, please! Awesome content!
So timely. While brewing my first custom world recently, I discovered these aspects of mapping are a glaring weakness of mine.
I'm glad you are finding it useful!!
Some more fascinating fantasy geopolitics! My favourite kind of geopolitics tbf.
I just found your channel and I have to say... I am loving these videos that do a geopolitical analysis of D&D maps. Hope there is a plan to take a geopolitical lens to the continent of Khorvaire of Eberron fame.
There is! Expect it in the next two months
Hey man! Just wanted to let you know that I have been binging everything on your channel since yesterday evening, and you have quickly become one of, if not my favorite channel on youtube. Your content is incredibly underrated, excellent work!
Thank you so much!
Seconded! I stumbled on the Nobility video (so good), and have been watching the rest back-to-back since then. I'm only sad I'm about to run out of new videos 😅
I particularly love these geopolitical breakdowns, and would love to see more. It always bugs me when these things aren't considered in mapmaking. I see you're already planning on Eberron, which I'm looking forward to. Maybe a look at Golarion, from Pathfinder?
One thing I would add is the extreme economic importance of the Nyr Dyv and the Selintan and Nesser Rivers that connect it to the rest of the world’s oceans. The cities of Greyhawk and others, economic powerhouses, sprung up on these and excluding the Bandit Kingdoms, the nations in the Nyr Dyv basin (Furyondy, Nyrond, Urnst, Shield Lands) are actually quite economically powerful due to this! Dyvers too at the mouth of the Velverdyva connects those trade routes to Veluna, Perrenland, and Highfolk.
I would argue that the Nyr Dyv and her rivers are much more economically important to the continental trade system then the Azure Sea, especially considering the highly precarious political situation of the Tilva Strait compared to the relatively stable northern Azure Sea and Sea of Gearnat.
What a wonderful discussion!!
Marvelous content and production value!
Your video has kind of created a little buzz in the Greyhawk community!
... you're **so** spot on about so many things. It's fascinating to look at some of the nations and regions from this perspective. Hadn't *ever* considered some of the "reasons why" behind some evens in GH's "history".
One caveat-obviously there's some lore reasons some of your theories are a bit off, but that's stuff one could only know if they really got deeper into the lore and such. Like Ekul on the Tilvanot Peninsula is populated by an evil organization intent on world domination and they'd never involve themselves with any of the other nations ... but, your point about the Tilva Strait still remains, though it's not so much "pirates" as it "Scarlet Brotherhood navy", but, still.
Fantastic discussion! This will *absolutely* be a bookmarked video, and it'll come up in later research for articles and such on GreyhawkOnline and in the Oerth Journal!
Kudos!
Excellent!! I'm glad it's well appreciated!!
Greyhawk, is where it all started for me!!!
The early RPG guys were wargamers. There was even an idea that the "end game" for D&D would have been each player taking control of a kingdom each and fighting each other. Nowadays, it's like, we need a theme park Arabian nights zone, we need a cute home territory for our playable lizard men, and so on.
I very very much enjoy this type of content, and I am 100% here for every video like this. Sooooo many other channels are dedicated to how to make broken character builds or monster encounters, but very few actually speak on the climate/setting, and how the regional differences in topography can and should have a VERY real impact in your campaigns. Suffice to say, I've taken a good number of notes about the kinds of resources and regional interests there could/should be, and it's going to lend tremendously to the sense of realism and immersion in my DM'ing! Thank you so much for these vids!
Thanks, Baron, for visiting Frog God Games' Frog Chat tonight! I am commenting here because I didn't have any other way to contact you. This is my favorite video of yours because I've been a Greyhawk fan since 1983.
... And-21 months later-this video still continues to be relevant and discussed, and has been linked in at least one chat forum not less than three times in the last two months!
I wonder how the societies of dwarves and gnomes would influence in the geopolitical issues of the human civilizations. Since they control much of the ore trade and are (usually) great warriors and and have no small amount of magical priests, they could be the real group moving the threads on the continent.
Gosh - this video could not have been better timed for me! Such an interesting, insightful, and informative way to look at the game worlds. Thank you! I'm just about to start a Greyhawk campaign with my brother - we haven't hung out there for at least 35 years and thought it was time for some nostalgic adventuring.
You've become one of my favorite youtubers in record time.
Thanks! I hope I stay in your top tier for a while longer!
I’m currently writing a campaign for this setting to run for 5e player’s who’ve never heard of Greyhawk and your video has given me a bit more confidence in giving me materials to build on in my writing.
Amazing, I'll never look at the Flanaess the same again! Man, I love how Greyhawk is making a comeback among players, lots of fresh eyes on a glorious old world.
I often don't agree with your videos, but that's what I love you get straight to the point in an entraining format. So if I hate the vid, it will pass by quick. Great videos keep it up.
I legit just belly laughed from this comment. And I totally understand your position. At least I'm not wasting your time! :D
Great video! With Greyhawk in new DMG many DMs will be interesting in "new" setting and how to make it little bit their own. We need more videos like this! Thank you for your great work.
As someone running a Greyhawk campaign for 5e using a converted 1e module, this is pretty accurate to the lore I've scrounged up.
Keoland and The Great Kingdom are the two powerhouses on the continent (discounting the titular Free City of Greyhawk sitting in that southern peninsula in Nyr Dyv). Keoland expanded upwards, founding the Gran March from an order of knights known for its cavalry units. Gran March steadily began separating from them as a militaristic buffer state, but not so much that they lose Keoland's trade. In more recent history, Gran March more or less annexed and took Bissel as both a puppet state and buffer against northern aggression (mostly from Ket, Veluna is itself closer to an autonomous protectorate than a puppet). Following a war with giants as they invaded FROM the Barrier Peaks, the Duchy of Geoff similarly became beholden to Gran March as their military might was needed to fight them off, and they're stuck somewhere between a nation of refugees trying to rebuild getting razed by giants, while Gran March has them occupied "for security." They're slowly becoming the dominant power militarily, but Keoland still has stronger trade routes (even with their former territories becoming more independent), so it's hard to tell what will come of those two.
The three Uleks are three countries each lead by a different race: elves, dwarves, and a mixture of humans and halflings, and are all quite friendly with each other and their bigger neighbors, but not enough to formally become Big Ulek. There is no reason given why they all chose the same name, either. The Wild Coast on the east side of the Lortmils are Elven lands, that as far as I know are content with their lands as elves are wont to do, being long-lived and sedentary, and are usually considered amicable to all except whatever dark creatures manage to pop up in the farther reaches of the woods, for which they're vigilant in either quashing themselves or seeking aid when deemed necessary.
The Valley of the Mage, on the other hand, is extremely isolationist and distrusted by its neighbors. Mostly on account of being populated by peoples construed as evil (some truth to that, they have a magical archmage with a drow queen running a democratic dictatorship that kills sorcerer babies "for security"), but also due to its sheer defensive stature in the middle of a mountain range with a haunted Dim Forest between them and the outside world.
Interesting you note the unified identity however. It's theorized that in the past, the empire of a little-known mage called Vecna encompassed darn near everything between The Hold of the Sea Princes and the Bramblewood Forest, stretching to the western coast of Nyr Dyv. That is of course, until the archlich was betrayed by his second-in-command, the two appeared to have offed each other in a climactic battle, and with both leaders gone the empire shattered.
As for the Great Kingdom (which I've read much less about), after a time of strife known as the Greyhawk Wars, their country has similarly fallen apart, and is notorious for corrupt infighting between its noble families, in no small part due to many of those families having ties to cults to dark powers. Still powerful but in a state of decline, it's current issues are that it's desperately trying to cling to what alliances it has with its frontier territories now becoming nations in their own right, optimistically but unrealistically hoping it can re-exert its influence and become a unified country again.
That peninsula with The Scarlet Brotherhood is also a massive thorn in their side, as they're despots that actively ally themselves with pirate slavers that have been running rampant in the Sea of Gearnat, severely gimping both Almor and Medgia's trade outside, and in a strange twist for an evil country are actually forcing those countries together.
I'm also running a serious campaign in the Keoland Valley region. Do you have any dragons in your campaign? how do they impact the region are they constantly a threat to the kingdom's stability and prosperity? Do your dragons respect treaties or have alliances in the region? I see the ancient dragons as microstates with nuclear privileges, a constant annoyance occasionally destabilizing the region with the kingdom's uniting temporarily to fight off or paying enough tribute to appease the dragons temporarily for a generation or two in human years if they are lucky. I have a young Black Dragon Aulicus contesting the Hool swamp, allianced with Sakatha the Lizard king constantly attacking the southern village of Wycombe, stopping trade from the Hold of Sea Princess. in the north Bissel is destabilized with constant marauding Iuz forces. The PCs are in The Grand Marches holding off the more frequent blitzing of Iuz forces, the Giants to the northwest in the Duchy of Geoff have broken their alliance with Keoland the Drow have something to do with this. you can email me at dj_flashpoint@yahoo.com I'd like to bounce some ideas off you.
Great series, and some very enlightening points on geography effecting geopolitics. This is what I love about worldbuilding: using our knowledge of the real world to better understand how created worlds would function.
One minor suggestion: you said that the Comanche largely eliminated other tribes, but what really happened was more displacement, with the Apaches, for example, being pushed further West. Similar displacement happened with the Huns, Mongols, and other rising groups, leading to domino style invasions by displaced peoples. Another useful dynamic to consider, if you're interested :)
This video was really well done. Considering that Greyhawk is an older setting, and perhaps not as popular as some other D&D campaign settings, I'm amazed that this video has achieved the traction that it has. Good work!
0:15 I like how you chose the best beholder picture ever
This was really, really good. I didn't think I could like Greyhawk more, but now I do. Please do more on Greyhawk.
Homeschool dad here of a pair of gamers, one who will be a high schooler this august. I am absolutely going to use this video as an intro to geography
Another amazing video. What I want to see is a map of your campaign world and what your geopolitical thoughts were as you created it, and how the geopolitics influenced your worldbuilding and ultimately your campaigns run in your own world!
Lol which one? My campaign settings are so disposable. I throw them in the trash every six months when I get bored with it hahah. I just use the concepts for quest hook ideation. I'll be doing videos of local areas in fearun soon, to supplement that gap in my current videos
@@DungeonMasterpiece Let me know when you are about to throw the next one in the trash and I will e-mail you my address and pay the postage and you can send it to me. I look forward to seeing it! Thanks.
I’m looking at starting a Ghost of Salt Marsh campaign. This breakdown of the region does really help me get an understanding of the area. I’m not going to follow the book to the letter but a video like this helps me build more fleshed out threats.
Subscribing, this is such a good thing to talk about for D&D! That said; I am a frequent dungeon master, but I have never used official WOTC campaign settings. They're still great to hear about, because they're popular and good example studies, but I'd also love to see other things. Matt Colville, for instance, is massively popular on D&D UA-cam, and is widely known for his world building. I'd love to see critiques of, or even collaborations with, people like him, or Mercer of course (I don't follow him, but many do), or others. For now though this is still very helpful for me as a DM, and I'll keep watching, thanks!
Greyhawk was Gygax's original campaign setting and predated WOTC by decades.
Greyhawk was and remains my favorite D&D setting. Such a masterpiece & so much gamability as well, whereas other settings drown you under tons and tons of lore
Thanks for the video! I really like Greyhawk for some reason, and am planning a campaign in Geoff, inspired by the happenings in Living Greyhawk. It really helps to have those things in perspective!
If I may be so bold, however, I think it would be nice if you could, based on your analysis in this video, go more in depth into the History of these regions, see if they match with what you'd expect from this previous analysis, and go into the implications of this being a fantasy world (for example, Geoff and Sterich fell to giants that came in flying castles)!
Anyways, keep up the great work!
The Geopolitical videos take SOOOO much time to write, that doing those kinds of dives would probably take me a week of editing and 3 months of research. Not that such a thing would be bad, I just wouldn't have time to make weekly content.
@@DungeonMasterpiece Oooooh, that makes a lot of sense, especially because you'd have to dive into several boxed sets that might not even be too easy to come across (no idea if they're available in DriveThruRPG). Oh, well, if you ever get big enough to get a writing and editing crew (and I hope you do, I love your content!) and this becomes more feasible, I hope you can get around to going even more in-depth in these videos! Cheers!
@@Larkas thanks!
I loved this. I actually have a character from the tilvanot peninsula. It’s currently controlled by the scarlet brotherhood. Before the brotherhood took over the Suel people were ruled by an emperor and a conventional monarchy. But then there was this revolution where this cult took over. Anyhow my man belongs to one of the noble families that survived the war and was eventually re-settled on the peninsula. In addition given some compensation and honorary titles. More like a cozy exile.
He ended up being a political/ aristocratic agitator getting into sword fights and other trouble with his coterie of hangers on. Like any young noble you might see in a Shakespeare play set in a merchant city state lol.
Finding your channel has been a joy. Thanks.
Glad you are enjoying it!
@@DungeonMasterpiece
The hexcrawl video was particularly worth it. Ill be running one soon
Also don't forget the population migration patterns that complicate this whole situation even more!
The proposed Sheldomar relationship with Pomarj and Wild coast reminds me of the satellite state system of the USSR.
and exactly what is going on now with ukraine and russia. The Cossacks just can't catch an imperialistic break.
Where has this channel been all my life? Thank you for really punchy and quality vids :)
You're very welcome! I've only been around for like 9 months, so, that might explain the rest of your life's missing it, haha.
Just discovered your channel and binged every video. Absolutly love the geopolitics videos and would love to see more fantasy maps and worlds anaylzed!
i’ve not watched the video yet, but i wanted to drop a comment on the most recent post to say that you are fast becoming far and away my favourite d&d-oriented youtube content creator :) keep up the good work buddy
Thank you very much! Hope you like this video when you get around to watching it!
You are my favourite rpg youtuber, great topics and exposition! I'd love to see a video about the impact of magic on social hierarchies. Keep it up, subscribed!
Another fantastic video. An excellent explanation of the Greyhawk setting, and delivering an awesome method for DMs to deepen their world building using geopolitics. Such a refreshing take on how to improve games. Please keep up the good work! Would love to get your take on the Underdark setting.
4:20 The Pomarj is an Orc kingdom or rather a collection of them at a near constant state of war with the dwarves of Ulek.
Awesome video, tons of inspiration here for my own worldbuilding and internal consistencies :)
I only discovered this channel about two weeks ago and I've watched your viewership almost double in size since then. You're making great content, and people seem to be taking notice. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!!
Also, you can consider yourself one of the "og subscribers" since you were here before I hit 2500 subs hahah
I've literally never seen a video of yours before, and I got to see this one before it hit 500 views. UA-cam algorithm is wacky, but I'm grateful for it landing this gem in my lap.
The algorithm is a hell of a drug!
Fascinating! Supposedly Grayhawk is also implied to be world after a huge Magic fueled Nuclear War. This could also mean that their is some semblance of "the times before" however of if history, Anthropology and archeology are any sources, human memory, without writing is pretty short.
And very warped!
The Sea of Dust (which was written about in Gary Gygax's Sea of Death novel) is the remains of the heart of the Suel Imperium. They had a big war with the Baklunish, in the past. The war ended with the Twin Cataclysms (which was the two sides blasting each other's empires out of existence).
I love these videos wish there was more like this on the platform
A breath of fresh air in fantasy RPG commentary. I will say French "stability" in the medieval and early modern period is a bit of a misleading overview. The territories that made up France mostly consisted of numerous palatinate vassals whose loyalty to the French Crown was often in question. Consider the Hundred Years War as a broad example. The concept of the nation state is relatively new.
I see your point. But there still was a French dauphin the whole 100 years, even if there were a few regions who flip-flopped for the English (who had claim to the French throne anyway, so it was a reasonable "french" behavior lol)
@@DungeonMasterpiece I think the key here is that you describe it as the French "nation", not nation-State. In that regard, your comment holds up: the French nation (i.e. a people presenting a sense of collective identity congregated around a set of values, symbols, principles, language(s), but especially a central leadership figure, including a dauphin) is stable, even while its component subnational territories and regional powers (feudal lords, landed gentry, what have you) might be subject to instability. My two cents'
It's so sad how gygax's contribution to RPGs is underestimated by most.
Do you plan on making more geopolitical videos? These are great!
Interesting video! Concerning the geopolitics of D&D worlds, it would be interesting to compare the maps of pre and post cataclysm Ansalon (Dragonlance) and see how the changed geography would impact things in the 350 years or so between the Cataclysm and the War of the Lance.
Loving it and sharing this awesome video with my DnD group. Well done!
Glad you appreciate it! Thanks for sharing!!
The Hool, the southernmost river in the Sheldomar Valley, is all marshland near its mouth, probably not ideal for trade
Good video. Personally I don't think the Sheldomar would look to the Wild Coast and Pomarj for anything other than conflict given those areas are heavily populated by Orcs and other humanoids, as well as slavers. Luckily, Sheldomar has the various Ulek states between them and the coast; Ulek is populated by friendly demi humans ... dwarves, elves, halflings etc... and they are constantly vigilant against humanoid incursions from their eastern border.
And the Pomarj became overrun by humanoids that had settled in The Lortmils when the dwarves launched The Hateful Wars in CY 498-510. They drove them out of the mountains, right down into the Pomarj, which created a gigantic thorn in the side of all the nations around them. Thus you get The Slavelords (who end up being catspaws/tools of the Eilservs/Tormtor Elder Elemental God worshiping faction of the drow in Erelhei-Cinlu).
The Pomarj was originally subject to the Prince of Ulek (and thus the King of Keoland after a fashion).
Superb analysis! Highlights really help the viewer. Historical comparisons are priceless. I Just subscribed. I hope to see more of this. It would also be great to see a further breakdown, focusing on only one of the smaller areas of a given map, with lots of details on the cultural impacts.
Great video!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Well done. Was hoping for more by the end
something I think you missed was deep water ports for trade thesilt from a river mouth can reduce the depth of the port near its mouth, this is why Hong Kong is a trading monolith and Macau located in approximately the same area has resorted to casino tourism to make a living
Found you today and am binging your catalog! Excellent TTRPG content! Instant Sub!
Welcome aboard!
I made a homebrew retrace of the Flanaess for my Ghosts of Saltmarsh campaign. I then made the mistake to assume that the Flanaess was the entire planet(land) of Greyhawk and I wondered why the origfinal measurement was too small... So I multiplied it 4x... then discovered there was the rest of the world... then decided to make it canon that this world of mine is about 4x the size of Earth... which makes travelling a concern but oh well haha. Players are having fun so Im having fun!
Geographic determinism!? 🧐 In YOUR fantasy universe? 😱 It's more likely than you think!
Wow! I'm playing a Greyhawk campaign for a while and this is really intersting! Instant subscribe
Pretty cool, something to consider, forests are a greater asset for these regions than in the real world for the presumable presence of elves. Elves' more advanced culture will be of great influence to other people in their regions.
Elves in DnD land live whenever, they have subraces discriminated by ecosystem like Sea Elves, Mountain Elves, Ice Elves... The most advanced ones or High Elves usually live in "The West" a la Tolkien (not in the sense of geographic direction, but in remote isles or places that are the original homeland of their race and only elves can reasonably reach). It is so in Forgotten Realms, Eberron and various other places, although cultures of course vary from setting to setting.
Regardless of subrace and culture elves are indeed on averange more advanced than other races, but most regular kingdoms would probably still just meet relatively small forest or coastal communities roughly on their same level, good trading partners for sure but not enought to "uplift" human cultures on their own.
I want to see a whole lecture on this kind of world building
I'll be getting my geopolitical analysis certification with Stratfor intelligence group in April. Check out my community page for the live stream updates that I'll be doing while I'm studying for it.
Loved it! Please do more!
I will be for sure!
Exceptional video and discussion (and fun!).
I just love your videos. These kind of videos are very helpful!
Good video! I am not very familiar with Greyhawks setting but I presume from the thumbnail that it is as generic medieval fantasy as it can be
Yep, and designed by Gary gygax
Your video just raised the bar on future Greyhawk setting video content superb editing, and tempo it was like watching a historical documentary. Profound explanation of conflicts based on territory and not government powers. are you planning to make videos about regional powers in the Greyhawk setting? I'm genuinely interested in the Keoland Valley territories from Bissle to the Hold of the Sea Princes.
I love your geopolitics videos. You should totally do Tal'dorei and Theros
A question: Based on geography, that's what you would expect. Does the lore of the setting match this analysis? With a video title asking a question, I admit, I expected an answer to the question in the video.
That said, I love the work you're doing. You've obviously done some homework. Quality is top-notch.
Really great analysis. It's always interesting to see how people are affected by places.
This was fascinating to watch. More Greyhawk!
... please :)
Greyhawk, dragonlance, dark sun, eberron are some of my most favorite settings.
Geopolitical issues and cultural differences are my favorite topics to put into dnd it makes things so much more alive. It pisses off my players when they get stonewalled for being a elf or orc but it allows for interesting ways that makes them get creative or out right killing that npc
This is terrific, I wildly desire more!
You have a great channel.
Could you do the geopolitics of Eberron and Golarion?
I´d love to hear your take on them.
CONGRATS ON 10K!!! 🎉🎈🎉🎊🍻✈️
Oh man, an alternate history battle sim of Mongols vs Comanche warriors would be sweet.
Lol that would be. Isn't there an app people use to do this sort of thing?
@@DungeonMasterpiece Totally Accurate Battle Simulator
@@KnarbMakes sounds totally accurate
Utterly loved this and I only know anything about Greyhawk from the Temple of Elemental Evil crpg
Neat, I'd heard of this world setting before but never played in it when I still played DnD in high school, we'd just make up our own worlds. I think I'll take a close look at this one.
yuuuup would love sum more greyhawk videos, thanks!
Awesome video :D It makes me want to learn smth more about greyhawk .
Why would the Prelacy of Almor catch the brunt of tribal raiders? Would the raiders ride past Ratik, Bone March and other states? Are you saying they would be raiders from Bone March? If so , then why wouldn't the North Province also get an equal share of that action.
I never could get my head around the Great Kingdom of Aerdy. Like what is? A ghost empire now? Nobody goes in and comes out. There no trade. There's rumours of demons roaming around even after thr Crook of Rao was found. The emperor is possibly a Lich? And there's a Loom?
This is such good stuff. Keep it going.
So pretty much a fantasy Eurasisa the size of the Contantal US? That acually sounds awesome!