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  • @connieflanery1568
    @connieflanery1568 3 роки тому +78

    Jeff, after months and months of watching different home renovators' videos I have been able to narrow down my choices of renovators that I go to for DIY videos. You, Sir, are by far, a cut above all of the hundreds of other instructional and informational renovators offered on UA-cam. You not only offer complete tutorials that cover every possible home renovation idea but you also give the DIY'er the options of materials that are available on the market, what to look for, and the Do's and Don't's when working on a project. As a 67 yr. old DIY female, whose only income is dependent on Social Security, I can honestly say that you have saved me a few hundred dollars. I am blessed. I only wish I would have discovered you a few years earlier and I could have saved several hundred more. Thank you, Jeff, for all of the brilliant information you share with the public. I couldn't do it without you! God bless you and yours!

  • @worldwideparanormal3523
    @worldwideparanormal3523 4 роки тому +49

    I lost my passion for renovations. Your channel has actually inspired me to give it one more try and i fell in love with it again and for that i thank you

  • @KevinBourqueMtl
    @KevinBourqueMtl 4 роки тому +7

    I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one who gets breathless when talking about energy efficient lighting.

  • @shoebert31
    @shoebert31 4 роки тому +200

    Find someone who gets as excited about you as Jeff does about LED lights

    • @beastwolf7
      @beastwolf7 4 роки тому +2

      Amen to that brother!

    • @VortechBand
      @VortechBand 4 роки тому

      Still waiting for someone to setup shower floor heating to be on district heating instead of expensive electric heating :P

    • @karmadonnelly3780
      @karmadonnelly3780 4 роки тому

      VortechBand mmm
      CBC was

    • @praecorloth
      @praecorloth 4 роки тому +3

      That would be me. First thing I did when I bought my house back in like 2012ish, 2013ish? Replaced every light with LED lights. Fricken way expensive, especially back then. But so worth it. Especially for my house. My house still has 100 amp service, and most of the house is wired to just a few 15 amp fuses. Yeah, fuses. I've had to replace like 2 fuses in the 7 or 8 years that I've lived here. I have LED lighting to thank for that.

    • @bc1229
      @bc1229 2 роки тому

      Don't think that is possible 🤔, but he is fun to watch

  • @romaintrevisiol9159
    @romaintrevisiol9159 4 роки тому +29

    I love LED lights! I'm building my house right now and I got like 60 6" lights for everywhere. Barely any power consumption, great lighting, pretty easy to install. However I didn't know all these options.

    • @suzwhiteside
      @suzwhiteside 3 роки тому +3

      No wonder they are sold out...lol

  • @synovia421
    @synovia421 4 роки тому +3

    Im convinced you can read my mind Jeff. You ALWAYS COME OUT WITH A VIDEO THAT WE NEED AT THE RIGHT TIME!!!!! You’re sooo underrated. Don’t stop what you’re doing 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  4 роки тому +3

      LOL, as long a s my wife loves me I am fine with my rating. Cheers!

  • @runs_on_coffee
    @runs_on_coffee 4 роки тому +3

    I changed all my house lights to LED's back in 2010 . I had several 24 inch Fluorescents in closets. I just changed them all to LEDs using just the new LED tube lights no wiring needed. I also installed Insteon dimmer switches back in 2010 as well so all lights are dimmable and programmable. I can even change where the switch is located without having to run new wiring . So for that switch thats across the room making you walk in darkness to get to it just mount a new switch at the entrance to the room, simple. Love your stuff Jeff . Having just one arm I've had to look for lots of tricks to do home improvements. Wish you'd been available 20 years ago... Cheers...

  • @beastman997
    @beastman997 4 роки тому +5

    I'm going to be purchasing my first home soon, and I can't even explain how excited your videos make me

  • @vshakir622
    @vshakir622 4 роки тому +10

    Just did an install using these exact model of light you first reviewed...in two bathrooms and four bedrooms...they are an absolute dream to install - they take no time at all! When I saw the switch for the color temperature, I nearly fainted with delight! Thanks for another great video!

    • @5GNV
      @5GNV 4 роки тому

      Do you know of a video showing how these are actually installed, wired, completely - rather than someone just unpackaging and showing the fixture? Would help a lot to see the whole picture/ process...

    • @shengquanliang
      @shengquanliang 4 роки тому +1

      Do you have any videos on how to wiring these lights

    • @vshakir622
      @vshakir622 4 роки тому +1

      @@5GNV Assuming that you're in search of content about the types of lights that I used (the first type of lights that he unboxes in this video) - try searching "how to install thin line light" on UA-cam - there are a few videos there that give a good look at the process of installing these. Also, I'm sure that Jeff will give us some good videos here soon using all of the types of lights in this video (he promised he would!).

    • @wchops7578
      @wchops7578 4 роки тому

      Gary Foote Jeff has a couple of older videos on how to install, well worth watching.

    • @wchops7578
      @wchops7578 4 роки тому

      Gary Foote ua-cam.com/video/WOK_EH5YHjM/v-deo.html
      First video I ever watched from Jeff

  • @KeikoBushnell
    @KeikoBushnell Рік тому

    ❤Thanks again, to my Dad #2!
    It's so great you are always awake to help with late night projects when my dad is fast asleep on the East Coast! ✌️😘

  • @AndrewJ1313
    @AndrewJ1313 4 роки тому +1

    I just put some of those pot lights in my basement a few weeks ago. Game. Changer! Love the color option and how easy they were to install.

  • @jimreitenbach6023
    @jimreitenbach6023 3 роки тому

    Jeff I just finished 12 LED lights just like what you show here. I ran the hole saw in reverse and they all came out perfect. Thank you so much. God bless.

  • @coreygrua3271
    @coreygrua3271 4 роки тому

    Can Jeff ever dance to the latest technology and UA-cam opportunities. Thanks for the good deals too. Plus, Jeff and Max have worked together for years now. What a team!

  • @bradleygoral8453
    @bradleygoral8453 4 роки тому +1

    My wife and I both watch your channel. Super awesome content! You’ve been silently helping us along with our house!

  • @markj6984
    @markj6984 4 роки тому +1

    gf and i literally went to home depot today to get lighting. thankfully we decided to wait and watched this!

  • @gerrypower9433
    @gerrypower9433 4 роки тому

    Lighting designer here; glad to see you having fun with some of the newest LED lights. A few points:
    In the US, variable color products are being labeled "color tunable" or "color selectable."
    Under cabinet fixtures flipped around and mounted flat to the header over closet doors make excellent closet lights.
    Spacing is a tricky subject. The fixture manufacturer publishers a ratio called the spacing to mounting height ratio. You might have to call the manufacturer or get your hands on a photometric test report. It is a simple ratio often called S-M or SMH. You just multiply the ratio by the height of your ceiling. A 1:1 ratio means you'll get even lighting in an 8'-0" ceiling with fixtures spaced no more than 8'-0" apart. 1:2? 10'-0" apart in that 8'-0" ceiling. The amount of light you'll get depends on the light output, the spread of the light, and the colors of the room it's in.
    Last, the tripod outdoor light was nicknamed the "Space Needle" fixture by one of my clients after the famous tower in Seattle, WA. =)

    • @gerrypower9433
      @gerrypower9433 4 роки тому

      I messed up the SMH ratio; the latter should be 1:1.2

    • @emadrian6041
      @emadrian6041 2 роки тому

      Do you have a link to where i can find the outdoor light?

  • @mavewinder
    @mavewinder 4 роки тому +8

    FYI - GTA Electric rebranded themselves as “Vega Lighting” for those interested. The link to their webpage is correct and on the RenoVision affiliates webpage.

  • @thetruckingrailfan4449
    @thetruckingrailfan4449 4 роки тому +6

    This video just completely changed the game for our upcoming renovations. Thank you for another great video. I can't tell you how glad I am to have found this channel. You've given me the knowledge and confidence to take on what is going to be a huge project and I believe that I can do most of the work myself (thus saving a ton of money).
    On another note, I have an idea for a new drinking game: Take a shot every time Jeff says "brilliant". 😆
    Cheers

  • @chrisbabbitt4202
    @chrisbabbitt4202 4 роки тому +5

    Hey Jeff. Been watching for a long time, but have been so busy this past six months. Wish I had more time to watch. I do always recommend your channel to anyone who mentions doing some DIY home renovation stuff. They always talk about how great you are. I hope you and the family are doing well. :D

  • @theresafrank5880
    @theresafrank5880 4 роки тому +2

    Jeff, you just seem like such an awesome guy. My bf & i have our own home Improvement co. When he comes over i put your videos on & we love just hanging out & watching your tips. Thx for such great content, you are a pleasure to watch

  • @galady8632
    @galady8632 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this info. The timing was perfect for me. I ordered 24 pot lights and one with a motion sensor. (The 20% discount kept my final total under $500. Awesome!) I will have to spend at least the same amount to have everything installed but I will have the lighting I have wanted for far too long. Again, I thank you.

  • @nicholi1
    @nicholi1 4 роки тому +16

    Big Fan!
    I've learnt so much on your channel, keep up the good work.

  • @marklyon
    @marklyon 4 роки тому +2

    I've been very happy with WAC Lighting's "I Can't Believe it's not Recessed" fake pot lights for my concrete-ceilinged condo.

  • @azplease4121
    @azplease4121 4 роки тому

    The lights best suited for vaulted ceilings.. agreed, absolutely brilliant!
    💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡

  • @tnt666tnt
    @tnt666tnt 4 роки тому

    Iput 26 of these in the house and all outside in my soffets. supper happy with them and beyond easy to install

  • @brandonp8461
    @brandonp8461 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks to this video I'm going to replace all the old kitchen lights in my house with these ultra thin adjustable LEDs, will be a nice top off for our kitchen reno

  • @xSyberprox
    @xSyberprox 4 роки тому

    Bought like 20 of these previously!! EASY to install and very happy about the result. The only thing that took me time was to choose 3000k,4000k,5000k temperature.

  • @liroso
    @liroso 4 роки тому

    The color temperature switch is brilliant!

  • @MrTclough
    @MrTclough 4 роки тому

    I will second everything Jeff has said here. In the process of remodeling an older beach house and after watching all of his videos which are great by the way I used the affiliate link on his website to order every light from GTA electric. Saved a ton of money this route and note to mention GTA has a great customer service department, fast shipping and even helped over the phone during the weekend. The lights are great, easy to install, the brightness colors are consistent and the ones installed outdoors just recently survived going through a hurricane. I have these lights hooked to dimmers, 3 way switches and even motion switches. Buy one light and have incandescent in outside eaves, day light in living areas and bright lights in bathrooms and closets and be done!!!

  • @AndyWaldrop
    @AndyWaldrop 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the great content! Just installed 12 led pot lights in my kitchen and 10 in my family room. Different light levels for each. The led lights with switches to change color are a game changer. I’m both cases I selected a different final temperature that what I would’ve purchased.

    • @aayesher9400
      @aayesher9400 2 роки тому

      What color temp did you settle on?

  • @timcole6882
    @timcole6882 3 роки тому +1

    This is perfect timing, just starting an extensive renovation, did not know about/ will be incorporating. Thanks!

  • @joeybooth8121
    @joeybooth8121 4 роки тому

    Hey Jeff I just want to say thank you for making your shows you help me get a raise on my job

  • @anthonycarrabino1301
    @anthonycarrabino1301 2 роки тому

    Jeff, you are AWESOME ... i can't stop watching your videos. You are super knowledgeable, you provide excellent information and your delivery is outstanding.

  • @MY_Handle_1963
    @MY_Handle_1963 3 роки тому

    Jeff. I just ordered 16 x 4" lights and am thankful for the 20% off. I will update how they look when I get them. Thanks for doing what you do!

  • @robinreidmusic
    @robinreidmusic 3 роки тому +1

    Just to thank you for all you do for us. I love your channel and I ordered 12 pot lights and the 8 foot led bar from GTA Electric and the honoured the 20% discount.
    Keep up the great work Jeff. You and your crew are fantastic.

  • @vindiesel2997
    @vindiesel2997 3 роки тому +1

    This has become my favorite channel

  • @Real.Estate.Report
    @Real.Estate.Report 4 роки тому +2

    I have LED ‘can’ lights throughout my house and I LOVE them!

  • @cdb989
    @cdb989 2 роки тому

    Is there anything this guy can’t do. Love the content and he makes you feel comfortable doing home renovations well explained in detail. Your the man jeff my go to guy for home repairs and renovation

  • @victornunez6354
    @victornunez6354 3 роки тому

    I went to buy some light fixtures today for my renovation. But I going to return them tomorrow and buy these LED lights...Thanks
    Cheers

  • @Zincink
    @Zincink 2 роки тому

    My closet light flickers it’s a disaster. I just cleaned it out so I am glad to see these options. I like the similar mr beam sensor on/off lights.

  • @mehdinazari220
    @mehdinazari220 4 роки тому +1

    Reno is one of the best LED Lighting brands in the GTA!! 👌👌

  • @Ultimatehobbyreviews
    @Ultimatehobbyreviews 3 роки тому

    You are neat brother. Informative and not boring. Like that 1 out of each 20 high school teacher you remember 20 years later.... Subscribed

  • @anthonysmith9410
    @anthonysmith9410 4 роки тому

    Hi Jeff....43 years as an IBEW ELECTRICIAN...(fckn great)...this video is so very helpful to everyone ..
    You must have been reading my mind...I just completed a lightning job. I used the motion sensor lights you have in your video.
    I want to meet up with you...and work with you....
    Keep the great videos coming!!!

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  4 роки тому +2

      perhaps one of these days. I am hoping to get around the world and do some philanthropic renos for folks!

  • @MimmyJorgan17
    @MimmyJorgan17 4 роки тому +2

    I put something like this in my basement. Having the color change is great since a room can go from a warm rec room to a brighter/cooler color for detailed stuff like an office room. Great video as always!

  • @4philipp
    @4philipp 4 роки тому

    Certainly line the slim design and that gimbal light with a 87° angle, mind blowing.
    But what I’m really looking for is hidden lights for indirect lightening. Like light strips to span the entire perimeter of the room. Dimmable of course.

  • @degarmo187
    @degarmo187 4 роки тому

    I just bought 12 of the 4 inch. I really love the channel. Redoing my basement after a flood and it appears the previous owner cut A LOT of corners.

  • @mratzelster
    @mratzelster 2 роки тому

    I used your link and wasn't able to find any of those retrofit LED lights that you explained were so easy to do on my own. Vega Lights only had something if you were going to buy brand new fixtures.

  • @ephraimschmitt3106
    @ephraimschmitt3106 4 роки тому

    Just bought 6 for an upcoming bathroom reno, thanks!

  • @b20em1
    @b20em1 4 роки тому

    I love your channel you talk like a real working person. All your videos are very informative thank you for taking the time to make them God bless.

  • @IdealistINFP
    @IdealistINFP 3 роки тому

    I happened to be watching a video at .75 speed… I thought you had gotten super stoned and really really wanted to talk about lighting and lighting temperatures… AMAZING!

  • @FoamSquatch
    @FoamSquatch 4 роки тому

    These lights seem pretty promising. I clicked the link and noticed, they are down right affordable without the discount. I think I will be grabbing some of these to see how I like them. I could see converting my whole house to this stuff.

  • @optimusprime1634
    @optimusprime1634 4 роки тому

    Right on time Jeff. I'm slowly finishing my basement and I am going to have a drop ceiling with 2x2 tiles. I was looking for lights, now it looks like I'm going to get the LED 2x2 Back-Lit Panel about 5 of them.

  • @Eliteponyboy
    @Eliteponyboy 4 роки тому

    Just received my 6 inch pot lights today. Can't wait to install them 😁

  • @QSL.
    @QSL. 4 роки тому

    Wow nice back splash. Just watched your design. Now gotto go watched how you finished!

  • @mohiuddinarifah
    @mohiuddinarifah 4 роки тому +2

    Great video as always, and amazing product selections, so you mentioned that in a couple of weeks you would be doing suspended ceilings, and that would probably mean pot lights etc. here is a suggestion, show us how you would use a push in wire connector with the (very thin) 18 gauge wires already attached to the LED fixture. thank you

  • @jakerember
    @jakerember 4 роки тому +3

    What a bright idea!

  • @kevinmuller9921
    @kevinmuller9921 3 роки тому

    These lights are amazing, I put them all in my drop ceiling. All 4" on a dimmer in 2'x2' tiles

  • @JustinFincher
    @JustinFincher 3 роки тому

    I like the Leviton Occupancy Sensor for an interior closet switch. Same result as the Vegas but then I can pick the finish of a flush mount.

  • @cooterbaby3360
    @cooterbaby3360 4 роки тому

    Going Led is a no brainer. Lower cost, better lighting quality and super easy to install. We added Leds to our entire home.

  • @Griffolion0
    @Griffolion0 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Jeff, could you do a video about how to install drop ceiling in a basement? Mine's totally unfinished at the moment and I'm leaning towards a drop ceiling for versatility.

  • @kjromero8538
    @kjromero8538 4 роки тому +3

    This is BRILLIANT!

    • @KarlBunker
      @KarlBunker 4 роки тому

      Yes, but is your mind blown?

  • @billm.8220
    @billm.8220 2 роки тому

    This video has definitely changed my Reno. plans. Thinking or using the drop in panel in my drop ceiling in my basement. Is is a 2 x 2 or a 2 x 4 ? As for the rest of the house, I will be buying according the needs of the room. They’ve come a long way over the years. Easy peesy. Black to black white to white & copper to copper. May have to use a sparky to help with the 3 way switch going to the basement.

  • @thehotsinger
    @thehotsinger 4 роки тому +2

    This is everything I need in my life right now!!

  • @xaraphyn
    @xaraphyn 3 роки тому

    Great vid again, Jeff and Team! All the best!

  • @lovefreebee
    @lovefreebee 2 роки тому

    bloody brilliant video...thank you!

  • @butchjachimczuk6682
    @butchjachimczuk6682 4 роки тому

    Jeff love the lights. Also love the door switch. Thanks

  • @bcochnov10
    @bcochnov10 3 роки тому

    Jeff, my led lighting arrived today in Baltimore, MD with your discount. Thank you!!

  • @jeanniekidd3410
    @jeanniekidd3410 4 роки тому +2

    Perfect timing! We’re renovating attic bedrooms and looking at lighting options. Thanks for another GREAT video!

  • @roseconnolly3567
    @roseconnolly3567 3 роки тому

    I'm so excited about the LED lighting options and even more excited because I live in the same city. Unfortunately, some of the lighting is sold out. Thanks for the enlightenment!

  • @mikedonovan7947
    @mikedonovan7947 2 роки тому

    11:48: "Hoo-Rah". Amazing. :)

  • @emcsquar3db
    @emcsquar3db 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video, it inspired me to put 6 of these (gimbal style) in vaulted kitchen ceiling. Awesome info !

  • @yoderd2080
    @yoderd2080 Рік тому +1

    I rarely click the like button when told to do so………………I clicked the like button!!!

  • @adamkaminski5384
    @adamkaminski5384 3 роки тому

    Thanks for saving me $75 on my lighting order, Jeff! Keep up the good work.

  • @markhealth3386
    @markhealth3386 2 роки тому

    I hear those coiley CFL bulbs are also all the rage now too

  • @gregmartin1757
    @gregmartin1757 2 роки тому

    Yeah i already knew all these existed ! So did a lot of other people ! Should have titled this some options a few people not have been aware of .

  • @SummitBidTech
    @SummitBidTech 4 роки тому +1

    You didnt mention Smart lights. I love them.

  • @TheSchulz2380
    @TheSchulz2380 4 роки тому +3

    I love these lights, just need to know when to buy a 3',4',6'inch one's

  • @IScreamer
    @IScreamer 2 роки тому +1

    Lots of great information on LED lighting - thanks! With the lighting fixture you said you were installing in your driveway (about 10 min into the video) it was unclear to me how you were assembling the unit. Were you assembling it upside down or right way up? In other words, will the light be directed up or down when installed?

  • @adriancazac420
    @adriancazac420 Рік тому

    Genius design,great lights Thank you for tips.

  • @jmgrayii
    @jmgrayii 3 роки тому

    Totaly Awesome who new color change and dimmable WOW

  • @no-page
    @no-page Рік тому +2

    You have links for a thousand unrelated products, but no links for any of the products shown in the video.

  • @stealthassasin1day291
    @stealthassasin1day291 4 роки тому +69

    Jeff is making me want buy all these lights, I just don't own a home to use them in.

  • @MrTexaz101
    @MrTexaz101 Рік тому

    When the LEDs go out you may have to change the whole fixture. I haven't seen replacement LED light bulbs yet.
    -I have changed out fixtures for this reason.

  • @michaelgonzalez8863
    @michaelgonzalez8863 4 роки тому +1

    I have10 the 6” dimmable ones and I love them . I didn’t know about the motion ones but I will be adding them to all my small closets. Thank you .

    • @Patrick-888
      @Patrick-888 3 роки тому

      Motion LED: Great olace is the lined closet. The only problem is getting power to those areas, especially if you live in a condo where the exterior walls are CMU.

  • @mcoffeesnob721
    @mcoffeesnob721 4 роки тому

    Those 'sexy light options' really did 'blow my mind!' Thanks, Jeff.

  • @R0gue6729
    @R0gue6729 3 роки тому

    Gaaaaaaah vega is freaking sold out 😂 excellent video. I'm so glad I found this channel.

  • @theverbind
    @theverbind 2 роки тому

    Such a great repository of information!

  • @dodgeguyz
    @dodgeguyz 3 роки тому

    Just put these in my basement (the 5" pot lights). I only had about 3/4" between the duct and drywall. So these were perfect. $45 for a 4 pack from Menards. And they have a switch so you can change the color temperature.

  • @ElectricMonkeyOG
    @ElectricMonkeyOG 4 роки тому

    I install a lot of these daily, 100 of them the other day to be precise, maybe not retrofit, but it's still recommended to have a vapour barrier. These lights are phenomenal though.

  • @BigDeadLift84
    @BigDeadLift84 2 роки тому

    I love that outdoor light, I canr find it anywhere. I'd love to install in my backyard

  • @frankieb7375
    @frankieb7375 3 роки тому

    Thanks. Used the promo code they are now 19.99 before discount

  • @LonelyRavenProductio
    @LonelyRavenProductio 4 роки тому

    Thanks, ordered up some of the gimbals to try out in my weirdly thin vaulted ceiling. I've been trying to figure out what to put up there, and didn't like any of the flat LED lights. These gimbals look like they will suit my needs perfectly!

  • @WitnWisdom64
    @WitnWisdom64 3 роки тому

    Awesome videos!

  • @ryankonkin2935
    @ryankonkin2935 4 роки тому

    Love the videos as always. Great content and love the fact you take the time to show us all the options. Unfortunately here in B.C. under Technical Safty BC they state: If you are replacing the light fixture yourself in your own fully detached single dwelling, the Safety Standards Act requires that you obtain a homeowner permit.

  • @JasonWho
    @JasonWho 4 роки тому +26

    I already knew a lot of this but jaw dropped when you angled that gimbal light.... wtf?!

    • @TheDarthJesus
      @TheDarthJesus 4 роки тому +1

      There's lights like that that arent so cheap and ugly.

    • @jamsand3
      @jamsand3 4 роки тому

      @@TheDarthJesus actually looking could you link to something in chrome or matt blacj please?

    • @jwp09
      @jwp09 4 роки тому

      @@jamsand3 NDR RAZR series or Liteline gimbal lights are nice and you can get them in any colour

    • @arnoldromppai5395
      @arnoldromppai5395 3 роки тому

      then been around for some time, just need to look at the lite up displays,, for all the new stuff, see them in the big box stores but never buy them there

  • @cabeziduro
    @cabeziduro 2 роки тому

    I appreciate info that I don't know. Thank you very much !

  • @luisl.5304
    @luisl.5304 2 роки тому

    I wish I had the knowledge to get some people these projects done...

  • @21503dlmoore
    @21503dlmoore 3 роки тому

    Do you have a video on how to plan out for recessed lighting?

  • @dylanchrist
    @dylanchrist 4 роки тому

    I just bought 13 of these for my (first) house. Don't close for another two weeks, I have plenty of stuff to do before lighting though.

  • @insubordinator3469
    @insubordinator3469 3 роки тому

    It would be awesome if you would do a video on led options like this but for use with sound deadening ceiling- like if I have a double drywalled ceiling, how could I mount something like this without putting giant holes through both slabs and not lose the sound deadening.