V2.1: 30 wil > 50 ftd > 80 wil > 45 int > 100 wil > 100 ftd > 1 str, agl and hvy. Shrine of chance for brickwall then shrine of order. 30 str > 25 agl > all the rest into heavy I really hope i did that right.
@@SkiperGripper On the discord, it says that the charisma build is V2.1, while this and the actual build say that the intelligence build is V2.1, could you fix this issue?
hey just something I noticed about your first build. A lot of the talents you uses like tough love are very niche and is really hard to proc all at the same time and it requires you to be low health. Ex: charged return you don't have flame within so unless your going against an element mob pretty useless, same with wyvern's claw , matador, tough love, last resort, etc. meaning if you removed all of those you lose 85% of your dmg. meaning that you need to be low in the air fighting a human enemy with hype armor to get the most dmg. I'd rather just go brick wall, butterfly, and cheap shot pre shrine. then go 40 strength, 80 willpower, and ~90 heavy wep. more consistent dmg and more movement
If I have the extra talent space there is no reason to not take stuff like last resort and that. The charisma stuff exists so you are safer in really dangerous encounters. Interms of usefulness cheap shot is worse just cause 10% pen isn’t alot of damage not to mention a lot of monsters don’t have armor
@@SkiperGripper taking last resort is good and you should take it its just that to factor it into a dmg calculation where you need to meet a lot of requirements doesn't seem that useful to me, its more of a back up and not a priority. same with tough love, to need to meet a requirement to proc something instead of having the innate stat buff feels less strong to me. doesn't mean that its worse, just needs more to make it work
@@SkiperGripper if you went 45 intelligence instead of 55 charisma you have 10 extra points to just throw into heavy weapon and 5 extra hp, overflowing dam is always going to proc unless you just used ardour scream which is a free 15% more damage instead of the 10% damage you're getting from tough love which is less and is only active when you're low
@@nineleaffif y’all care that much about intelligence just go the non brick wall build, it has both. Even though it doesn’t have brick wall, it shouldn’t affect you too much
thx man, this motivated me to make this build. because i usually just wing builds and i made one thats pretty good but it DOES NOT compare to this one. thx again for motivating me to start making your builds.
Charisma Dragon king Stat order : 30 willpower 50 Fortitude, 80 willpower 55 charisma 100 willpower 100 fortitude 1 agility 1 strengh 1 heavy (use shrine of chance to get brickwall when you get 100 fortitude and before usung shrine of order) Shrine of order. 30 Strength 91 Heavy weapon Pre shrine- Get Heretic Sudra when having 80 willpower 6 Vitality 6 Proficiency (there may be some mistakes so please check it via video if its correctly and comment me to fix that problem)
Is there a reason you didn't pick all the dead gods? I rolled it and picked it, so if theres a reason against it then ima reroll it using chance shrine. Also should I use isshin's ring? Lmk thanks
It might be because the charisma build doesn't use it so the intelligence build doesn't have it either? I am not sure but it is a great talent so as long as it doesn't conflict with other talents you should get it.
Im playing this game for a while but yet im so weak in this game. With this build i got my first bell, adour scream and also i first time killed a bonekeeper and bounder and primidon and kaido. I was so strong with this build yet i got wiped because of depths gangers. It improved my pve alot but yet my pvp skills sucks. Now im thinking to make this build again. Thanks skipper gripper for this build
@@Aæāěëæâ-yeat well i went v2.1, another if you want to know lines to say to mystic then use builder and see the talent tree name ( for ex: brick wall comes under human architecture, then use cursor and go to human architecture, no need to click and it will say mystic line) + because of recent weekly update i didnt had to use shrine of chance, i got reinforcement and brickwall together
Question, why not go overflowing dam instead of charisma? Isn't it a passive 15% more damage and charisma is a passive 10% only when you're very low hp right? Im just wondering why you prefer charisma
he migth use it as a life saving because is give you a 10dmg resistance too but if you not a solo player dont get it because is can cause you ally a lot of troble event that is require you to being low to max you dmg buff maybe use a tidekight to make it storger rather than snake oil and tideknight i dont see a vision because remember a ardor screem still have cooldown but overflow dont
I actually managed to get animal king on this build, Its so fun to be able to kill anything within seconds. I am basically unkillable in depths since depths gankers are devoid of any possible skill.
Is Silentheart really worth it tho (on m1 builds)? Fully m1 builds with silentheart are good, but it removes oaths and mantras. With dawnwalker you'd get the best pve mantra (which also gives u charm btw) + acess to other mid mantras (if ur build is for m1), while with silentheart u get 10% m1 damage and some 2 decent ''mantras''
It is just good and silentheart builds are both really easy to prog and simple to play. There might be some slightly better options but if you're wanting something incredibly simple yet effective silenthearts the way.
hey skipper, i had a homecooked build in diluvian but ended up wiping it today, (corrupt payback and everything) it was a gran dawnwalker build but do you think your build even after evanspear nerfs is better?
Few questions, Is evanspear still better after the nerf or should I switch over to enforcer's axe? Should we use monster armor or dvm kits? After the 330 stat point buff, we should use mystic as we power up on brick walls requirement?
Hello threre Mr. Skippy man!! Just wondering, why is it that you choose to use Ignition Deepdelver instead of Celtorian Tideknight? Is it just personal preference? Thanks in advance!!
Hey skipper, not able to use discord due to conplications, do you think you could post the build link or somthing. Idk wich one. Anywho, nice content, cant wait to see what you can do from here!
Hey Skipper Why should we use evanspear instead of enforcers axe in hell mode? I thought enforcer's axe does more dmg with speed demon and talents like time to go, fast blade, and swift rebound are constantly proccing speed demon. or maybe im just coping because I used my astral enchant on enforcer's axe.
Yo i looked at all ur vids and i love them a lot can u drop a pyre keeper pve build (Sound weird but i really want to see what it can do) anyway continue like that!
What build would you recommend for farming layer 2? I’m looking to make a PVE slot just to get the legendary elemental weapons for my other slots, but I’m not really looking to grind hellmodes or diluvians.
STAT ORDER FOR THE LAST BUILD: 30 willpower 50 fort 80 willpower 75 charisma 45 intelligence 1 Agility 1 Strength 1 heavy wpn SHRINE OF ORDER 30 strength 30 agility 30 intelligence 35 fort 100 hvy wpn
Chaotic charm is very dangerous if playing with other people, it reduces damage to you but increases the damage they do to others, you can really screw others over with it in diluvian or hell mode
@@SkiperGripper sharko spray, bounder/bonekeeper jumping attack any misguided charge attack, missed kyrsgaurd snipers and mobs do change aggro as long as the other person is closer or hits them
Can you make a silentheart build that’s decent in both PvP and PvE? I just wanna have fun with the game by destroying monsters but also do chime matches and survive ganks. I don’t need it to excel in either, just a balance.
charsima/agility variant 30 will > 50 fort > 80 will > 55 chs > 100 will > 100 fort > 1 weapon, strength and agility shrine 30 strenght > 91 heavy weapon
Allure is not worth it, it doesnt proc chaotic charm, ferocity is better as its gives dmg buff and dmg resistance based off your tempo and your tempo is nearly always maxed during diluvian
def a good build but i keep getting wiped in the depths right before getting 50 fortitude..bro why is some quests king thresher and some normal?? edit: is it the difference between thresher rescue and thresher extermination?
2:44 im a bit confused on this cause how do you get brick wall if you SoO before powering up? does it still give you it if you talk to a mystic beforehand or something
Do u think just going 30 charisma pre-shrine instead of 55 is good enough? Since u charm with chaotic only when ur below 30% health but its pretty hard to get that low because of corrupted payback.
Will the charisma build still work the same way if I get 1 strength and 1 agility when I first configure my character? Or will the build get messed up?
do you think this build would still be able to do bosses with ease? obviously it wont be as fast as dragon king V4 but I've been looking for a build that could do close to everything somewhat quick and this build seems to be what im looking for.
i know that you said this works with every race but will it work with Canor because it makes you always have 3 strength and one time i had more than a single point on an attribute which caused it to not go up.
how is evanspear better for hellmode/dilu when time to go would mean enforcer's axe is getting near-constant bleed damage and in bosses there's not many ways to get speed boosts?
7:31 how are you getting 76.9 base damage with ur evanspear, when i clicked the link in your discord to the exact same build i was only getting 67.9 damage
it isnt necessary to mystic for any legendary talents since if you meet all of the requirements you are guaranteed to get it on your talent draws (fire builds tho)
I have 10 invest points left at power 16 while having the reqs for brick wall and I’ve selected it in mystic, if I shrine now do I get brick wall next power up or do I have to go to 17 then shrine?
hey skipper i tried to get overflowing dam before i shrine but i never got it is their anything i can invest into so i can still get it before i shrine?
i dont really see the use of charisma when you could just go 40 into int and get overflowing dam which works at any amount of hp i know you dont get the dmg resistance but whats the point of getting more dmg if you can only use it while your low (im talking about the first build you showed)
@@SkiperGripperYou're not gonna explain on how to use shrine of chance? I'm a new player I don't know how most of the shrines function. Huge oversight on your part, especially for a guide.
@@SkiperGripper sadly my friend watch me wipe to a huge jellyfish in deluv and i had silent heart with my first bell, crazy slots corrupted, prov thorns enforcer axe and good armor😔
Is this build still good cause i am doing a lot less damage after the bleed nerf and cant solo diluvian anymore is there anyway to make the build better after the nerf
You don't disappoint man. (I know what ima be cooking up this weekend)
Glad to not
Giving the exact stat order is amazing. I remember when u had like 1k subs. U are the best build showcaser in deepwoken. TYSM for this awesome build.
Dam you’ve been here for awhile
@@SkiperGripper dont remember who but I first saw u when a deep yter used ur build im pretty sure
@@RubyDaDoge prob from supa
charisma build:
30 willpower > 50 fortitude > 80 willpower > 55 charisma > 100 willpower > 100 fortitude > 1 point in strength, heavy, agility | shrine of order | 30 strength > 91 heavy
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we need more people like you 🙏🙏
do not forget heretics sutra when you get 80 wil
@@raptorgaming4615 useless s deepbound
@@tieter126 what do u mean can u explain me
V2.1:
30 wil > 50 ftd > 80 wil > 45 int > 100 wil > 100 ftd > 1 str, agl and hvy. Shrine of chance for brickwall then shrine of order. 30 str > 25 agl > all the rest into heavy
I really hope i did that right.
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@@SkiperGripper On the discord, it says that the charisma build is V2.1, while this and the actual build say that the intelligence build is V2.1, could you fix this issue?
dont forget to get heretics
What do I trade in at shrine for brick wall does it require me to trade a common or rare talent
I LOVE YOU
hey just something I noticed about your first build.
A lot of the talents you uses like tough love are very niche and is really hard to proc all at the same time and it requires you to be low health. Ex: charged return you don't have flame within so unless your going against an element mob pretty useless, same with wyvern's claw , matador, tough love, last resort, etc. meaning if you removed all of those you lose 85% of your dmg. meaning that you need to be low in the air fighting a human enemy with hype armor to get the most dmg.
I'd rather just go brick wall, butterfly, and cheap shot pre shrine. then go 40 strength, 80 willpower, and ~90 heavy wep. more consistent dmg and more movement
If I have the extra talent space there is no reason to not take stuff like last resort and that. The charisma stuff exists so you are safer in really dangerous encounters. Interms of usefulness cheap shot is worse just cause 10% pen isn’t alot of damage not to mention a lot of monsters don’t have armor
@@SkiperGripper taking last resort is good and you should take it its just that to factor it into a dmg calculation where you need to meet a lot of requirements doesn't seem that useful to me, its more of a back up and not a priority. same with tough love, to need to meet a requirement to proc something instead of having the innate stat buff feels less strong to me. doesn't mean that its worse, just needs more to make it work
this what i been saying the charisma talents are terrible 😭 very rarely will you ever get that low and the buff isn't even that crazy
@@SkiperGripper if you went 45 intelligence instead of 55 charisma you have 10 extra points to just throw into heavy weapon and 5 extra hp, overflowing dam is always going to proc unless you just used ardour scream which is a free 15% more damage instead of the 10% damage you're getting from tough love which is less and is only active when you're low
@@nineleaffif y’all care that much about intelligence just go the non brick wall build, it has both. Even though it doesn’t have brick wall, it shouldn’t affect you too much
thx man, this motivated me to make this build. because i usually just wing builds and i made one thats pretty good but it DOES NOT compare to this one. thx again for motivating me to start making your builds.
W glad i could help motivate you
W build as always my glorious king
W comment (you don’t need to call me king)
STAT ORDER
PRE-SHRINE
30 WIL > 50 FTD > 80 WIL > 55 CHA > 100 WIL > 100 FTD > 1 HVY > 1 STR > 1 AGL
POST-SHRINE
30 STR > 91 HVY
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bro what is shrine please help me
@@Kazur0 You use Shrine of Order after you finish all the pre-shrine stuff and it balances out all your stats and then you follow the post shrine
You forgot about the intelligence
@@christary_5629 this is for the one without intelligence
Charisma Dragon king Stat order :
30 willpower 50 Fortitude, 80 willpower 55 charisma 100 willpower 100 fortitude 1 agility 1 strengh 1 heavy (use shrine of chance to get brickwall when you get 100 fortitude and before usung shrine of order) Shrine of order. 30 Strength 91 Heavy weapon
Pre shrine- Get Heretic Sudra when having 80 willpower
6 Vitality 6 Proficiency
(there may be some mistakes so please check it via video if its correctly and comment me to fix that problem)
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FYI you forgot the shrine of chance before the shrine of order to get brick wall if that is the build you go for.
Oh right. I indeed did, thank you for saying that haha@@karma9335
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hey skipper gripper, literally got to wave 45 solo with this build, tysm
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With which one?
got to wave 50 with the agil + int build, but i wiped cuz my payback didnt work :(
Thanks King
Np
BRO YOUR BUILD IS CRAZY SO MUCH GOOD
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Hi skipper, new subscriber here. Love your content man! Keep ip the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Is there a reason you didn't pick all the dead gods? I rolled it and picked it, so if theres a reason against it then ima reroll it using chance shrine. Also should I use isshin's ring? Lmk thanks
It might be because the charisma build doesn't use it so the intelligence build doesn't have it either? I am not sure but it is a great talent so as long as it doesn't conflict with other talents you should get it.
messes with teammates
Im playing this game for a while but yet im so weak in this game. With this build i got my first bell, adour scream and also i first time killed a bonekeeper and bounder and primidon and kaido. I was so strong with this build yet i got wiped because of depths gangers. It improved my pve alot but yet my pvp skills sucks. Now im thinking to make this build again. Thanks skipper gripper for this build
Which one did you go for and also what to tell mystic for brick wall?
@@Aæāěëæâ-yeat well i went v2.1, another if you want to know lines to say to mystic then use builder and see the talent tree name ( for ex: brick wall comes under human architecture, then use cursor and go to human architecture, no need to click and it will say mystic line) + because of recent weekly update i didnt had to use shrine of chance, i got reinforcement and brickwall together
v2.1 is agility + str + charisma
@@shariqshaikh2460thx bro (I’m on my friends phone rn I broke mine lol
@@avabolhari3228 i have no clue who that is
thank you skipper gripper for giving me this min maxed build for deepwoken pve
Np glad to help
Skipper Gripper on top 🗣🔥
Sometimes
@@SkiperGripperall times*
Question, why not go overflowing dam instead of charisma? Isn't it a passive 15% more damage and charisma is a passive 10% only when you're very low hp right? Im just wondering why you prefer charisma
there is 2 points for a reason
@@SkiperGripper No im just asking why you prefer charisma, is it better?
he migth use it as a life saving because is give you a 10dmg resistance too but if you not a solo player dont get it because is can cause you ally a lot of troble event that is require you to being low to max you dmg buff maybe use a tidekight to make it storger rather than snake oil and tideknight i dont see a vision because remember a ardor screem still have cooldown but overflow dont
Soloed up to wave 35 dulivan spamming my corrupt payback and ardour scream and picked up a crypt :) this build can even beat up primadon
nice
@@SkiperGripper soloed to wave 50 without bell then got bell and survied
how i have the same build and me and my friend can barely do wave 25
@@kazbotfn skill issue ngl
@@kazbotfn Get more dvm and ma.
ma and md in echo upgradez too.
I actually managed to get animal king on this build, Its so fun to be able to kill anything within seconds. I am basically unkillable in depths since depths gankers are devoid of any possible skill.
nice
Is Silentheart really worth it tho (on m1 builds)? Fully m1 builds with silentheart are good, but it removes oaths and mantras. With dawnwalker you'd get the best pve mantra (which also gives u charm btw) + acess to other mid mantras (if ur build is for m1), while with silentheart u get 10% m1 damage and some 2 decent ''mantras''
that mantra does less damage than you just m1ing so yes its better
It’s an silent heart build without it the build is bad
Silentheart is just easy to play and gives a lot of extra stat points to spend. You don’t need to worry about ether or timing mantras
It is just good and silentheart builds are both really easy to prog and simple to play. There might be some slightly better options but if you're wanting something incredibly simple yet effective silenthearts the way.
every single time i make one of your builds u make a even better one lmao still luv ur vids
i practice alot to get good with a build before i make a video
@@SkiperGripper thats why ur the best also holy u reply quickly ❤
Thank you so much! I can now upgrade my silent heart pve build!
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Im suprised you reply to almost all comments on older videos, would this build do well in Dilluvian?
this is the most used solo diluvian build
@@SkiperGripper yeah it's great, you should try a wraith claw I use it for dilluvian and it's amazing
PERFECT timing because i JUST wiped the last one (i hate depths gankers 😢
real
Rip
Oh my GOODNESS!
Yep
Coated build thanks for letting us know of it
hey skipper, i had a homecooked build in diluvian but ended up wiping it today, (corrupt payback and everything) it was a gran dawnwalker build but do you think your build even after evanspear nerfs is better?
Idk probably
you should do a prog vid
Maybe
@@SkiperGripper pretty plz
Which enchant should I use besids Astral for Diluvian? on a 3star dmg Evanspear or 3star dmg Enforcer Axe? Great vid!
as said in the video umberal, vamp, bloodthirsty or grim
How do you get brick wall if you shrine before the level up?
he needs to respond fr
shrine of chance
W build!! whats your hair combo btw? I just want to know
i do not remember
@@SkiperGripper i am pretty sure you can check at the barber. but just a tip
I keep on wiping trying to make this build tf
Rip
@@SkiperGripper not anymore 😈
@@arcticpengwinz3908which one and was it really op?
@@ClearIT360 it was when I started pve and its the charisma one, charisma one is way better than int if you have allure in my opinion
Few questions,
Is evanspear still better after the nerf or should I switch over to enforcer's axe?
Should we use monster armor or dvm kits?
After the 330 stat point buff, we should use mystic as we power up on brick walls requirement?
nothing changed
either
yeah
skipper gripper scream if you love PVE
ah
@@SkiperGripperRAAAAAAAAH*
Ah~ 😩
@@SkiperGripperuse ardour scream irl
@@زهور-خ3زGo to Depths irl
Hello threre Mr. Skippy man!! Just wondering, why is it that you choose to use Ignition Deepdelver instead of Celtorian Tideknight? Is it just personal preference? Thanks in advance!!
more resistences and being able to parry perilis attacks
@@SkiperGripperperilous?
@@T3MUG attacks that you usually can't parry like primadon kick etc
Yeah, I don't think you need to get the Charming stuff, just get allure. It saves points+ it does the same as that perk 😒 lame ahh build
No? Allure doesn’t replace chaotic charm
i dont think this guy saw the stat requirement for chaotic charm
Allure without charm talents will literally not do anything
allure just charms if you don't have charm talents it does nothing
Ok but you’re still getting 55 char lol
Hey skipper, not able to use discord due to conplications, do you think you could post the build link or somthing. Idk wich one. Anywho, nice content, cant wait to see what you can do from here!
Maybe
Hey Skipper
Why should we use evanspear instead of enforcers axe in hell mode? I thought enforcer's axe does more dmg with speed demon and talents like time to go, fast blade, and swift rebound are constantly proccing speed demon. or maybe im just coping because I used my astral enchant on enforcer's axe.
from experience, evanspear does hella more dmg than the enforcer axe. plus those talents youre talking about have a pretty long cooldown
speed demon has a cooldown, so in groups of enemies you cant proc speed demon on all of them
@@SkiperGripper ah thanks. Should I still use my enforcers axe with astral or evanspear with grim
@@Willyalamafia 100% go evanspear with grim it does hella damage
yo skipper nice vid! BTW is this build better than berserk build by zuukle?
Yeah
zuukle fell off so bad
Poor zuukle
this build is so good for pve and when i put a railblade on it is turned into a decent pvp build its crazy
i mean its still a silentheart
Nice vid
Nice comment
Yo i looked at all ur vids and i love them a lot can u drop a pyre keeper pve build (Sound weird but i really want to see what it can do) anyway continue like that!
Maybe
What build would you recommend for farming layer 2? I’m looking to make a PVE slot just to get the legendary elemental weapons for my other slots, but I’m not really looking to grind hellmodes or diluvians.
Godslayer v4 is the best build for Farm layer 2
god slayer is by far the best
One cycles chaser and soloes wave 50 with a good kit and corrupted payback absolutely insane
very good job
did u use the intel version or charisma
DVM doesn’t work against chaser right?
@@DeathlyiOS yes
STAT ORDER FOR THE LAST BUILD:
30 willpower
50 fort
80 willpower
75 charisma
45 intelligence
1 Agility
1 Strength
1 heavy wpn
SHRINE OF ORDER
30 strength
30 agility
30 intelligence
35 fort
100 hvy wpn
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bro is always the goat of deepwoken pve, pve doesnt even exist no more if u dont keep posting WWWWWWW
I’m not that important lol
Nah I’d quit deepwoken if u stop posting
Chaotic charm is very dangerous if playing with other people, it reduces damage to you but increases the damage they do to others, you can really screw others over with it in diluvian or hell mode
monsters dont change agro so its fine as long as you all aren't ontop of each other
@@SkiperGripper sharko spray, bounder/bonekeeper jumping attack any misguided charge attack, missed kyrsgaurd snipers and mobs do change aggro as long as the other person is closer or hits them
Is it worth running an isshins ring for things such as chaser and ethiron, but when about to diluvian/hellmode take it off for a 4% dvm one?
Ofc in my opinion for deluvian and hell mode its better to be more tanky than more dmg
yeah i'd say its worth it
V2 (charisma) starts at 1:32
V2.1 (not charisma) starts at 8:55
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Hey skipper gripper I have a question. How does charm get applied to the mobs if you have no mantras?
as i said in a full section of the video, chaotic charm
@@SkiperGripper ohh so it only procs when you are low. Got it!
Sorry skipper for keep coming back but I recently got astral trying to decide what to use it on enforcer axe or evenspear they both have 3 star damage
Evanspear
@@bandaidtoxin no, enforcerer axe better
evan if you aren't procing speed boosts
Can you make a silentheart build that’s decent in both PvP and PvE? I just wanna have fun with the game by destroying monsters but also do chime matches and survive ganks. I don’t need it to excel in either, just a balance.
Just use a PvP silentheart then or the char one would be alright in PvP
Here's a deepwoken builder ID that I've made in the past. Lots of PVP talents possible! Use enforcers axe w/ deto.
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The only person who outs the stat order legend man
thank you!
To get the shield master cards do you need to equip shield when rolling or only once when you get 50 fortitude
yes
Hey man, could i use the first build to use it on everything? (pve related like layer 2)
yeah it can do everything
charsima/agility variant
30 will > 50 fort > 80 will > 55 chs > 100 will > 100 fort > 1 weapon, strength and agility
shrine
30 strenght > 91 heavy weapon
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Yo skipper gripper, is your old dragon king build still viable?
yeah it hasn't gotten any weaker
Charisma build is REALLY good with an allure enchant on one of your armour pieces.
Or atleast I think that's how it works since u don't have any mantras cuz u have silent heart.
yeah
Allure is not worth it, it doesnt proc chaotic charm, ferocity is better as its gives dmg buff and dmg resistance based off your tempo and your tempo is nearly always maxed during diluvian
So to clarify if you shrine before you level up but you go to the mystic to get the talents then youll still get the cards when you levle up?
what?
@@SkiperGripper im straight tweaking bro idk what i was smoking when i commeneted that
Time to get back to work making the best build
Yep
def a good build but i keep getting wiped in the depths right before getting 50 fortitude..bro why is some quests king thresher and some normal?? edit: is it the difference between thresher rescue and thresher extermination?
2:44 im a bit confused on this cause how do you get brick wall if you SoO before powering up? does it still give you it if you talk to a mystic beforehand or something
you use mystic then shrine of chance before SoO
@@sfcalamity ty
shrine of chance
Do u think just going 30 charisma pre-shrine instead of 55 is good enough? Since u charm with chaotic only when ur below 30% health but its pretty hard to get that low because of corrupted payback.
And post-shrine im able to get more heavy 99 or 100 I dont remember correctly.
Just don’t take char then and use the build without it
Also quick reminder that after the max stat was buffed to 330, you can actually get brick wall on level 16 power up if u are a vesperian (very cool)
Yep
do you have to be vesperian to have this?
@@TheTemptational most likely yes
Will the charisma build still work the same way if I get 1 strength and 1 agility when I first configure my character? Or will the build get messed up?
yeah
Thank you, I will make this build when I can. :)
Love your vids bro
Also i just realized that skipper gripper replies to every comment 💀
yep, and ty
Hey just wondering why don't you get heretic sutra on the charisma build since it has lose your mind and piercing will too
you do get heritics
do you think this build would still be able to do bosses with ease? obviously it wont be as fast as dragon king V4 but I've been looking for a build that could do close to everything somewhat quick and this build seems to be what im looking for.
yeah this can do every boss easily, god slayesr are just quicker
Um so i followed every stat order and I end up having 72 heavy when I reach power 20.
Where did I go wrong?
is this build still good for dilluvian after the silentheart rework?
i know that you said this works with every race but will it work with Canor because it makes you always have 3 strength and one time i had more than a single point on an attribute which caused it to not go up.
just invest the same amount of stats, race wont affect anything
Ty@@SkiperGripper
i have a question on the first build you get the stats for brick wall but then you instantly shrine of order so you dont even get brick wall???
Ur gonna mystic, then shrine of chance. Then you shrine of order
i never say to shrine of order instantly, i specifically say to shrine of chance
@@SkiperGripper I did the build and somehow leveled up exactly on 100 willpower and 100 fortitude and got brick wall without shine of chance.
@@crimsonvirgo that means you missed something from int or char
@@SkiperGripper i didnt tough. Was this video made before the stat increase on character creation?
how is evanspear better for hellmode/dilu when time to go would mean enforcer's axe is getting near-constant bleed damage and in bosses there's not many ways to get speed boosts?
speed demon cooldown
Is it ok if I didn’t grab piercing will? I just figured this out, and I’m doing just fine in dilluvian
you are fine
Skipper I was wondering should I get heretics sutra for this?
yes
If I don’t use the origin deepbound will it effect the build at all? I’m using castaway rn btw
deepbound is always the best, just gonna have qol issues and insanity problems
How well could this build stand up against different bosses, like Chaser and Ethiron?
It can 1 cycle them
Am I able to use an enforcer axe with this build or should I just try to get an Evanspear before even trying to get the build
you can use enforcers
How is charming cast and the one other talent supposed to process when it’s silent heart? Two of them require mantras to proc
choatic
What’s the best enchant if your to lazy to farm for Astral. I will be mainly doing dilvian
grim
pale briar viable or nah? and if not, evanspear or enforcers axe?
yeah
for the first build, do i have to roll for brick wall using shrine of chance or do i get cards after using shrine of order?
ye u chance
shrine of chance
7:31 how are you getting 76.9 base damage with ur evanspear, when i clicked the link in your discord to the exact same build i was only getting 67.9 damage
build maker defaults to removing the 3 star damage on the evanspear
@@SkiperGripper nope 67.9 damage is with 3 star damage, i literally had everything the same down to the same armor
Hey Ive got a 3 star dmg kyrscleave with vamp could i use that instead of evanspear or enforcers axe?
nope, endlag and less dmg, use evanspear
No
If I’m doing diluvian should I use the tideknight set or deepdelver?
either
it isnt necessary to mystic for any legendary talents since if you meet all of the requirements you are guaranteed to get it on your talent draws (fire builds tho)
not true you can still miss them
@@SkiperGripper couldve sworn that was the case, mb for the misunderstanding
I have 10 invest points left at power 16 while having the reqs for brick wall and I’ve selected it in mystic, if I shrine now do I get brick wall next power up or do I have to go to 17 then shrine?
you need to shrine of chance brickwall to gain extra heavy weapon points
@@SkiperGripper ah ty
hey skipper i tried to get overflowing dam before i shrine but i never got it is their anything i can invest into so i can still get it before i shrine?
nope
Which is better after bleed nerf evanspear or speed demon enforcers axe ?
nothing changed
i dont really see the use of charisma when you could just go 40 into int and get overflowing dam which works at any amount of hp i know you dont get the dmg resistance but whats the point of getting more dmg if you can only use it while your low (im talking about the first build you showed)
The point of char is the build is on average a bit weaker but when you are in real danger it becomes a lot stronger
Overflowing doesnt work with ardour scream
question, should i abuse umbral knight bug or just grind for astral?
up to you
If i used to the same stat, can i go attumentless? taunt, adre, and alot more buffs. should i try it skipper?
sure it could work
@@SkiperGripper will try!
hey for the third build i accidentally did 45 intelligence before charisma, is it okay or should i wipe?
you dont get charisma and int
how do u get the 100 fort and 100 willpower talent card if im gonna shrine of order before power 17? i should definetely get it right?
as i said in the video shrine of chance
@@SkiperGripper i dont think you ever actually said in the video shrine of chance,,,,, you just said to use mystic
@@SkiperGripperYou're not gonna explain on how to use shrine of chance? I'm a new player I don't know how most of the shrines function. Huge oversight on your part, especially for a guide.
@@HyperPanda67939:34 there, if u go the int version use shrine of chance, if not just use mystic
@@evelynngaming2095 knowledge + talent of ur choice in exchange for a talent roll, do some research in the wiki, not that hard
if you shrine of order with 100 willpower and 100 fortitude, can you still get brick wall?
What version u think is better? I need to diluvian
watch the video its explained
If wild procs as a mantra, Wouldn't wild be op for pve because you can get intelligence and charisma talents to do full aoe dmg and 50% or higher dmg?
weapon enchants dont proc on mantras
would it be better to go 45 int last because none of the talents r useful besides masters craftsman and overflowing? or nah
if you want
is this build good for farming primadon? or oyu have other build to recommend
You can game him with this
very kool build
ok, ty
@@SkiperGripper sadly my friend watch me wipe to a huge jellyfish in deluv and i had silent heart with my first bell, crazy slots corrupted, prov thorns enforcer axe and good armor😔
Is this build still good cause i am doing a lot less damage after the bleed nerf and cant solo diluvian anymore is there anyway to make the build better after the nerf
yeah its still insanely good