I am a flex owner. I will definitely try this software. This is the first time i have the chance to listen to the Thetis NR2 feature. I didn't expect such a robotic audio from it. All the Anan/hermes lite folks here says it is such a wonder. Thank you for the video.
Tested on My Anan 7000 sdr radio and this software is absolutely amazing, it is much, much better than NR2 in Thetis. I will pay for sure for a standalone (no connection to server) version of this app. Worth to try it!
I loaded this Sunday morning. I was under the mistaken idea that you need to record your own personal shack's noise to use with the software. This got me screwed up. Yes I think they want you to record samples to send them. (A little harder than you may think) But, I started using it immediately. I need to figure how to cable up my system so I can use my heil Pro 7 headphones but that shouldn't be a big deal. I did use it though & listened through my computer monitor. I tell you, it works better than anything I've used so far. I believe in time it will be able to pull weak signals out of the mud like a miracle. I had a signal from Reunion Island that I've been able to work a few times. It was so weak I simply couldn't work it. When I used RM noise it was so very close to making his voice readable. But the noise, it gets rid of the noise. Wow! I don't know about Thetis or Hermes lite though.
Hello Kurt, I just talked to you today on ssb 10 meters which has been crazy open! Great qso! Just wanted to comment on this video which looks very useful and effective software for noise reduction. Thanks!
Hi Kurt. Great video. I have RM Noise working with my Flex 6500. This was easy to set up as Flex already has built in VACs (DAX). I can't figure out how to get it to work with Thetis using their built in VAC. Do I need to use a 3rd party VAC or something like Voicemeeter Banana? When I click the dropdown under Outgoing Signal Options, I only get input device choices, which makes sense. It does show Voicemeeter Banana input devices so I might try feeding the output of Thetis into Banana. Thanks.
This is a very good presentation of white noise suppression by using AI, which is certainly the way to go and improve on present day noise reduction techniques, which introduce digital artifacts of one sort or another. If this technology could be implemented with future SDR technology, it would certainly become a big game changer for eradicating unwanted white noise.
@@RogierYou The thing is though RogierYou, with present day man made white noise, it is a lot more intense and hard going on the ears, compared to what it was back in the 60s , 70s and 80s as I remember. This is mainly due to the proliferation of modern electrical products, which generate so much white noise interference and also ADSL2 of course. Back in the day, white noise was mainly due to natural atmospheric band noise, not man made, and was at a much lower level and a real pleasure to listen to. In fact you could literally hear a pin drop on the 10 meter band, because there was so very little natural atmospheric white noise. Those were the best days for sure for HF Ham radio, we wont see them ever again sadly. 😕
I agree, but when your power company is not getting the equipment repaired in a timely fashion, (it can take years) this software makes your expensive equipment usable again. When you have 20 over S9 120 hertz noise it makes the radio virtually useless.
Check out all the rm noise yt videos. There's a guy that demonstrates his powerline noise and rm noise just makes it disappear. I have only used it for a half hour now, but I'd say the powerline noise may be history. I almost bought the DX Engineering NCC II to help with my power line noise. But there's no guarantee with it and by the time you buy all the modules etc., you're looking at $1,500.00. And from my time wave anc4 experience (and it's supposedly just as capable as the NCC II) it's rough getting it to work just right. Or enough to keep you from launching it across the shack.
Does not exist for Mac or Linus; however, with Parallels, you can emulate Windows 11 on a Mac, and with some fancy configuring and sometimes a second third-party software application, you can route the audio from Flex Smart SDR Mac to RM Noise for processing in Windows 11 environment. It's a pain. Best to do it all on a PC.
I think Thetis is better sounding vs this video but it’s interesting and hope it’s soon a GPU offloaded model nr3 or pure signal2 ?! Thanks for sharing :)
I think this software only has a chance if it is free and runs on my local PC and not needing a external server. Paying for this software but useing it with free Thetis would not be fair (for the Thetis developers) in my opinion.
Why aren't the big guys, yaesu, elecraft, flex, anan, etc., implementing this into their radios? Or offering patches? I would pay good money for this. For a year now I have had a nightmare of powerline noise. It is extremely difficult to get the power company to fix this problem even when you can literally pin point where the arc is in their equipment. I have spent a massive amount of time & money just so that I can sniff out and prove to the power company where the noise is coming from. It gets as bad as 20 over S9.
Sounds like another load of ol' bollocks. I'd rather being listening to all the noise, my ears do a better job at decoding speech out of the noise that this AI garbage.
I am a flex owner. I will definitely try this software. This is the first time i have the chance to listen to the Thetis NR2 feature. I didn't expect such a robotic audio from it. All the Anan/hermes lite folks here says it is such a wonder. Thank you for the video.
Tested on My Anan 7000 sdr radio and this software is absolutely amazing, it is much, much better than NR2 in Thetis. I will pay for sure for a standalone (no connection to server) version of this app. Worth to try it!
I loaded this Sunday morning. I was under the mistaken idea that you need to record your own personal shack's noise to use with the software. This got me screwed up. Yes I think they want you to record samples to send them. (A little harder than you may think)
But, I started using it immediately. I need to figure how to cable up my system so I can use my heil Pro 7 headphones but that shouldn't be a big deal. I did use it though & listened through my computer monitor.
I tell you, it works better than anything I've used so far. I believe in time it will be able to pull weak signals out of the mud like a miracle. I had a signal from Reunion Island that I've been able to work a few times. It was so weak I simply couldn't work it. When I used RM noise it was so very close to making his voice readable. But the noise, it gets rid of the noise. Wow! I don't know about Thetis or Hermes lite though.
Hello Kurt, I just talked to you today on ssb 10 meters which has been crazy open! Great qso! Just wanted to comment on this video which looks very useful and effective software for noise reduction. Thanks!
Hi Kurt,very interesting & informative video, which was as allways very well presented.73
Hi Kurt. Great video. I have RM Noise working with my Flex 6500. This was easy to set up as Flex already has built in VACs (DAX). I can't figure out how to get it to work with Thetis using their built in VAC. Do I need to use a 3rd party VAC or something like Voicemeeter Banana? When I click the dropdown under Outgoing Signal Options, I only get input device choices, which makes sense. It does show Voicemeeter Banana input devices so I might try feeding the output of Thetis into Banana. Thanks.
This is a very good presentation of white noise suppression by using AI, which is certainly the way to go and improve on present day noise reduction techniques, which introduce digital artifacts of one sort or another. If this technology could be implemented with future SDR technology, it would certainly become a big game changer for eradicating unwanted white noise.
White noise is part tot the soul of shortwave radio.
I agree, but, if you monitor a frequency a whole day, you'll get nightmares of the white noise
@@oz457 to many it’s a soothing sound, just like people leaving on a fan at night or run an app on their phone for that.
@@RogierYou The thing is though RogierYou, with present day man made white noise, it is a lot more intense and hard going on the ears, compared to what it was back in the 60s , 70s and 80s as I remember. This is mainly due to the proliferation of modern electrical products, which generate so much white noise interference and also ADSL2 of course. Back in the day, white noise was mainly due to natural atmospheric band noise, not man made, and was at a much lower level and a real pleasure to listen to. In fact you could literally hear a pin drop on the 10 meter band, because there was so very little natural atmospheric white noise. Those were the best days for sure for HF Ham radio, we wont see them ever again sadly. 😕
I agree, but when your power company is not getting the equipment repaired in a timely fashion, (it can take years) this software makes your expensive equipment usable again. When you have 20 over S9 120 hertz noise it makes the radio virtually useless.
I use band "noise" to sleep. I live in the country, so no QRM. It is better if there are some distant storms.
Will this also remove annoying QRM? Electrical noise from neighbours etc that existing DNR solutions don't remedy?
Check out all the rm noise yt videos. There's a guy that demonstrates his powerline noise and rm noise just makes it disappear. I have only used it for a half hour now, but I'd say the powerline noise may be history. I almost bought the DX Engineering NCC II to help with my power line noise. But there's no guarantee with it and by the time you buy all the modules etc., you're looking at $1,500.00. And from my time wave anc4 experience (and it's supposedly just as capable as the NCC II) it's rough getting it to work just right. Or enough to keep you from launching it across the shack.
Does this work on vhf/uhf for chasing satelittes
My Radio is a Yaesu FT101D and use DNR works very very good after the last firmware update also on the FTDX10 aswell no need for extra software
When my HL2 arrives, i will test it with my IC-7610 and SunSDR2 DX. I will keep you posted..
Thank you for that presentation, very interesting
Lovely Kurt, I'll have a look. Consider putting a link on the description. Tnx de ON8EI John.
Clarity Vx from Waves can do this. If only Thetis could allow VST plugins. I use Reaper to handle the plugin.
Very nice. I use flex 5000 and would like to use this for sure. How does it sound in Cw mode ?
I use Thetis V 2.10.3.5 and it sure would be nice to see this AI incorporated in a future version of Thetis
Just got my Hermes-Lite 2 running with Thetis and like you, it would be nice to add this AI option into Thetis automatically
73
Mike
Does not exist for Mac or Linus; however, with Parallels, you can emulate Windows 11 on a Mac, and with some fancy configuring and sometimes a second third-party software application, you can route the audio from Flex Smart SDR Mac to RM Noise for processing in Windows 11 environment. It's a pain. Best to do it all on a PC.
It is a windows program. Unfortunately, it is not available on Mac and Linux. Did you try to run in a windows 11 virtual machine on your Mac?
I think Thetis is better sounding vs this video but it’s interesting and hope it’s soon a GPU offloaded model nr3 or pure signal2 ?! Thanks for sharing :)
Does it work with wine in linux?
I think this software only has a chance if it is free and runs on my local PC and not needing a external server. Paying for this software but useing it with free Thetis would not be fair (for the Thetis developers) in my opinion.
Wow! That is pretty good :)
Why aren't the big guys, yaesu, elecraft, flex, anan, etc., implementing this into their radios? Or offering patches? I would pay good money for this. For a year now I have had a nightmare of powerline noise. It is extremely difficult to get the power company to fix this problem even when you can literally pin point where the arc is in their equipment. I have spent a massive amount of time & money just so that I can sniff out and prove to the power company where the noise is coming from. It gets as bad as 20 over S9.
Not working on my SDR ...
Cool,
But couldn't really understand the AI audio
or you could use cleanup NR5... which works better
All i hear is the white noise being removed. The audio is still unintelligible to me; worse, in fact.
I agree, waste of time.... does nothing to improve readability and if anything makes it worse.
I eliminate white noise by backing off on the RF Gain control...no software required.
Isn't that eventually just a master volume? won't it still come out in recordings? 🤔
On SDR radios, a..k.a. AGC threshold, once properly adjusted, matched along with volume level, returns the most quiet and intelligible signal ever
Tbh you’re not eliminating anything you’re just turning it down
@@Fox250R aka master volume.
Cute
But qe didnt get to see it qork
Sounds like another load of ol' bollocks. I'd rather being listening to all the noise, my ears do a better job at decoding speech out of the noise that this AI garbage.