Mutant Raveshaw or Epic Sydney (Sydney in Zone Trooper armor) depending on faction. They have their usual main gun (railgun, personal ion cannon), but instead of tiberium flechette they have green tiberium rifle with infinite bullets and they can tank a lot.
Wait, OG Ion cannon caused an Storm to Stir up and the Nuke to turn the Skies Red? That actually makes them even more Cooler and intimidating than their Remake Versions.
Decided to check on c&c renegade on some fond memories I have, rather interesting that there's like an entire new game, it's kind of sad with some of the guns though, I get they scrapped some of the models and sounds for their more realistic counterparts, but half of them are rather underwhelming in how they look/sound, the only one I appreciated was the Nod nuke, that was a major improvement as the hexagonal shape is kind of lame in the original game i'd imagine due to game performance
The best and only real upgrade was the visual effect of the Rail Gun. It's what it should have been in Renegade as it's Ghost Stalker's signature weapon.
A lot of guns don't resemble the original if you ask me. Creating something completely different and slapping the same name on it doesn't work for me. The audio of the new ones are generic and it doesn't give me a c&c vibe. It's great to see that people love renegade and are putting so much effort into this. I'm not hating or anything. It's just not for me :)
Still, it's way more fun to play compared to other free online shooters like Call of Duty Warzone and War thunder. It reminds me of the classic battlefield 2142 which was one of my favorite FPS
@@deeppurplefan9648 glad to hear people are enjoying it. The developers deserve that. Warzone biggest problem is the toxic Community. I'm back to single player games now.
@@IkeFanBoy64 The lore conflict with that is Tiberium Vinifera was a recently discovered strain as of Renegade (see "All Brains, No Brawn") so it'd be hard to maintain a good supply of ammunition, at least until around 2030 when Vinifera was more prominent.
Unlike the original, it's bad that in Renegade X the weather does not change for a thunderstorm when a satellite approaches. And also the color of the sky does not change to red at the beacon of a nuclear missile
I like the new one a bit more for two reasons 1: Overall design 2: The classic one's reload is always desynced with the animation outside of a manual reload
@@IkeFanBoy64 so instead of fixing the slight delay we have to replace it? The design was unique. This... Looks like any shooter at the time. Could be unreal tournament...but no, even those had the spinning rocket launcher. Nest time the BFG shoots purple 🟣 Ps. ALSO this was Canon. This was for VENTING the weapon. Cooling the coil so it won't overheat. A neat mechanic detail. Yours will melt your hands!
Think it's more meant to be reminiscent of a proper tactical nuke. Also, I don't 100% know if it's meant to be an airburst since the warhead just goes through the ground after detonation. Given the amount of desync between animations and audio in Renegade, I feel the airburst effect wasn't intended in the original.
Man, I hope this remake title gets some love, credit is due for the original fan team for actually releasing it unlike all these other failed fan projects out in the world
The weapon sounds were actually louder, and much more detailed in the previous RenX versions, idk why they nerfed it in the later version. I even tried their Black Dawn singleplayer, the sounds in that game are much more louder then the current MP version.
I do like the reworked animations in some weapons showing detail like the Hawkeye Ramjet's integral magazine but the operation feels *completely* wrong from an operational standpoint. It's treated as a straight-pull bolt-action but the bolt is on a spring that brings it back forward so wouldn't it just be more efficient to just have it be a recoil-operated bolt like the M82 platform? Unless of course the ramjet cartridges are so wildcat that the bolt is locked closed to prevent the casing from rupturing.
The SFX could use a lot more meat on most weapons, but you've gotta appreciate how well done all of this is, especially the anims and visual FX. It's not a direct re-make of Renegade, but their own take on it and I respect that.
The old sounds are way better and more of C&C feeling/vibe while the sounds in Renegade X are the same as modern shooter like BF, COD etc As for gun models I rather they just make the old models HD than remaking them something different, Renegade X tiberium auto rifle & personal ion cannon are so lame & generic looking
@@SkullKidForever oh wait, im aware of w3d hub and i play on their servers, I thought it was fan-made way to play ren, but if it was made by westwood then It's great that they're keeping it alive!
What the heck is with all rifles in Renegade X? So, after every shot from sniper rifles and even railgun you must pull the bolt manually? Railgun just throws metal stuff into the target, but that bolt action makes no damn sense! Laser chaingun recoil is kinda... out of place. Yes, laser HAS recoil, but not THAT much. It looks more like a woman with machinegun from "Armour of God 2: Operation Condor". Electrogun in Renegade X gives me that eerie feeling, that gun actually electrocutes user instead. Effects of old Ion Cannon were just like in Akira.
I think you have some problems with your original Renegade installation: the Ion Cannon is desynced, weapons don't spawn muzzle flash and the nuke explodes before reaching the ground. I played Renegade a lot when I was a kid and these things caught my attention while watching your video. I have no idea what is causing it, maybe too many FPS?
This is so amazing - forgive my ignorance but I assume this is a mod?? When did this happen? I gotta Google this because I loved Renegade back in the day, so many hours in MM
The Hawkeye in Renegade X is nonsensical. It reloads as a tube magazine gun, in a gun without tube… They shove 5 rounds directly in the chamber… was it hard to just give it a magazine?
I really like most of these, only 3 I think are bad would be flamethrower, chem thrower and volt. X flamethrower model looks worse than original and all 3 X versions firing animations look worse than originals. Especially the flamethrower. Though the volt firing animation looks janky in original to. I think it’s less of the fault of the original and mod animators and more so games technical limitations. Aside from those the rest are a very nice looking improvement.
@@BreadApologist I honestly love the Volt Auto Rifle. The secondary ability is actually pretty cool. I can get why you may not like it. The chamber not being teaming with electricity does make it lose points (even if it makes more sense)
@@IkeFanBoy64 I more so just am not a fan of the firing anims. Either way the majority of the weapons look very good in X. Like I said idk if its really anyones fault on the animations for firing or just the game itself. Also really like the removal of the god forsaken puke green overlay in the scopes. That stuff was hideous.
Ppl here complaining about how "the guns dont sound like the original!" Cannot, CANNOT, tell me, that the original sounds were in any way like...really good or ground breaking. You fire the laser rifle on full auto and tell me "yep this will never get old!" You're crazy. This is a fan remake, with a lot of sorely needed updates, Renegade is at the very least a dated game, and the new sounds seem just fine, they feel realistic and punchy. Granted it'd be nice to know what someone is shooting at you from sound alone but, not when it's sounding as obnoxious as the laser chain gun...
Ren x is better but both seem to be using stock sound effects. At least ren x is a fan momoand thats forigeable. I would just go to a gun range in the US or borrow guns and copy those sounds and then feed them to an AI model to make them sound better or beefier.
Wtf did they do to the personal ion cannon. The old made you feel like you were actually holding some scifi prototype with the majority of the gun just being a battery pack. The new one looks poopoo.
Yeah Renegade X looks to be only on the surface to be faithful. All the weapons look... like washed out versions of the actual game's. Like they're clearly modern equivalents but more... inspired from rather than actually faithful and dedicated to the game they originated from. All the classic, distinctive sound cues have been washed out and largely removed, and everything is more reminiscent of "modern shooter with C&C flavor" rather than "C&C Renegade faithful remake"
@@水氵 Also, it's probably a lot easier and time-saving to just source gun sounds from other games or a library than it'd be to recreate/update the old sounds
Animations,arguably better and more smooth,sounds ehhhh...bit of a downgrade,they sound a little weak,not as beefy as the original and honestly probably the worst part of these weapons,the sounds being a little weak sounding,even the ramjet sounds a little too weak
Old sounds are much better, new ones is not realistic and overall not fit big guns. People who made sound design probably never shoot. Minigun was so so, but new is just a joke, wtf is that?
Seeing all these people openly complain about a fan-made project annoys me.
Can't blame ya there
Okay, yeah. It's really starting to annoy me, all this complaining
@@IkeFanBoy64It reminds me of the Boomer argument of "Oh music of the past is better than today", they don't like change and are supremacists.
probably because it sucks balls? Duh
16:45 that dude just ran through the nuclear explosion like it was nothing
The glory of not having friendly fire active
Chad NOD hooligan Vs the virgin GDI grunt
Imagine a Generals version of this, or Red Alert.
Red alert a path beyond bro
Dune version would make me nut.
I wish they've added Scrin into this
if in red alert the AR. is AK
A Generals version? Bro that's just Battlefield
Renegade x does have the GDI tib auto rifle too, its a hidden unit from crate on online server. :)
Can also be added through console commands and found in crates in skirmish mode.
Mutant Raveshaw or Epic Sydney (Sydney in Zone Trooper armor) depending on faction. They have their usual main gun (railgun, personal ion cannon), but instead of tiberium flechette they have green tiberium rifle with infinite bullets and they can tank a lot.
Wait, OG Ion cannon caused an Storm to Stir up and the Nuke to turn the Skies Red? That actually makes them even more Cooler and intimidating than their Remake Versions.
Actually the remakes are hit and miss tbh.
It's more cool or just cooler.
Nuke beacon still gives me PTSD 20 years later
Decided to check on c&c renegade on some fond memories I have, rather interesting that there's like an entire new game, it's kind of sad with some of the guns though, I get they scrapped some of the models and sounds for their more realistic counterparts, but half of them are rather underwhelming in how they look/sound, the only one I appreciated was the Nod nuke, that was a major improvement as the hexagonal shape is kind of lame in the original game i'd imagine due to game performance
The best and only real upgrade was the visual effect of the Rail Gun. It's what it should have been in Renegade as it's Ghost Stalker's signature weapon.
Definitely looks and feels more like a proper rail gun
@J M Yeah, classic Renegade was really committed to giving as many guns 100 round mags as they could.
I always thought this was funny
Definitely gold, thanks for the community, and we all know the reason why some haters post their toxic comments here
The old sound effects fit in better with the c&c universe.
Personal ion cannon, ah my favourite gun as a kid, man i used to grind points just to get it and its sound was amazing too
17:36 I think that the explosion is similar to MOAB
Makes sense since it's a tactical nuke
Love this video thanks for making it!
A lot of guns don't resemble the original if you ask me. Creating something completely different and slapping the same name on it doesn't work for me. The audio of the new ones are generic and it doesn't give me a c&c vibe. It's great to see that people love renegade and are putting so much effort into this. I'm not hating or anything. It's just not for me :)
Honestly, I don't at all mind the redesigns. Some of them like the Automatic Rifle and Volt Auto Rifle I think are good upgraded versions.
@@IkeFanBoy64 can you change sounds manually by replacing sound files?
@@caswavala9624No idea
Still, it's way more fun to play compared to other free online shooters like Call of Duty Warzone and War thunder.
It reminds me of the classic battlefield 2142 which was one of my favorite FPS
@@deeppurplefan9648 glad to hear people are enjoying it. The developers deserve that. Warzone biggest problem is the toxic Community. I'm back to single player games now.
What did they do to you, my precious laser rifle 😢
i miss the EVA callouts when beacons are deployed :c
And everyone spamming the voice commands. "take the point" "AFAAAFAAFAFAFAFFAFAFAFAFirmative".. RIP jelly server.
@@SomeRandomGuy121 OG renegade is still alive via w3d hub
I like that the tiberium rifle uses blue tib now
Makes sense since its more volatile than the green variant
@@IkeFanBoy64 The lore conflict with that is Tiberium Vinifera was a recently discovered strain as of Renegade (see "All Brains, No Brawn") so it'd be hard to maintain a good supply of ammunition, at least until around 2030 when Vinifera was more prominent.
@@racer927 Oh, right. I forgot about that.
In the original, the scope of the Sniper Rifle also had an integral directional microphone...
Is it the same in RenX?...
Hell if I know, but it'd make for an interesting mechanic if they add VOIP. It'd be like CoD4's eavesdrop perk, but actually may be useful
That’s what I loved most about the sniper in the OG renegade, you can listen to officers calling for reinforcements in Single player while zooming
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I don't know, the new one just doesn't really pop. And most guns are too generically gray
17:26 *TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING!!!*
More like a MOAB
I always love the assault rifle reload sound
wow they really did the repair gun dirty how could they remove that iconic sound from it
I feel like weapon gunshots could use just a bit more meat to them.
The Renegade X Ion Cannon Strike without EVA saying "warning, ion cannon strike approaching," just isn't the same.
Unlike the original, it's bad that in Renegade X the weather does not change for a thunderstorm when a satellite approaches. And also the color of the sky does not change to red at the beacon of a nuclear missile
Mobile Ion canon is Sooo lame now
The twisting thing was the best part
I like the new one a bit more for two reasons
1: Overall design
2: The classic one's reload is always desynced with the animation outside of a manual reload
@@IkeFanBoy64 so instead of fixing the slight delay we have to replace it?
The design was unique.
This... Looks like any shooter at the time. Could be unreal tournament...but no, even those had the spinning rocket launcher.
Nest time the BFG shoots purple 🟣
Ps. ALSO this was Canon.
This was for VENTING the weapon.
Cooling the coil so it won't overheat. A neat mechanic detail.
Yours will melt your hands!
For real I used to spam reload lol
@@boodie4853 oh, same. It's such a useless feature, but I love it.
that nuke strike was underwhelming, and why does it impact the ground? even in the original game it was an airburst
Think it's more meant to be reminiscent of a proper tactical nuke. Also, I don't 100% know if it's meant to be an airburst since the warhead just goes through the ground after detonation. Given the amount of desync between animations and audio in Renegade, I feel the airburst effect wasn't intended in the original.
Man, I hope this remake title gets some love, credit is due for the original fan team for actually releasing it unlike all these other failed fan projects out in the world
The weapon sounds were actually louder, and much more detailed in the previous RenX versions, idk why they nerfed it in the later version. I even tried their Black Dawn singleplayer, the sounds in that game are much more louder then the current MP version.
I love and appreciate the renegade X community, but the updated sound effects are weak af
PYRO: I love this flamethrower
I tried Renegade X few years ago. I wanted to like it since i enjoyed Renegade, but something about aiming felt uncomfortable to me.
Well.. Renegade X is based on the Unreal Engine 3. Most of the games that uses UE3 still has a bit of Unreal Tournament 3’s movements and gunplay.
because ren ogs combat us totally comfortable
I do like the reworked animations in some weapons showing detail like the Hawkeye Ramjet's integral magazine but the operation feels *completely* wrong from an operational standpoint. It's treated as a straight-pull bolt-action but the bolt is on a spring that brings it back forward so wouldn't it just be more efficient to just have it be a recoil-operated bolt like the M82 platform? Unless of course the ramjet cartridges are so wildcat that the bolt is locked closed to prevent the casing from rupturing.
Lore wise, the rounds are jet propelled, so it's probably a safely precaution. I dunno. I don't know much about the inner workings of firearms.
sad they didn't give it the warning message on the nuke.
Ramjet Rifle gang for the win.
The SFX could use a lot more meat on most weapons, but you've gotta appreciate how well done all of this is, especially the anims and visual FX. It's not a direct re-make of Renegade, but their own take on it and I respect that.
The old sounds are way better and more of C&C feeling/vibe while the sounds in Renegade X are the same as modern shooter like BF, COD etc
As for gun models I rather they just make the old models HD than remaking them something different, Renegade X tiberium auto rifle & personal ion cannon are so lame & generic looking
we should appreciate renegade x because without it renegade would still be dead right after what EA done to it
@@boodie4853 100% un true, W3D still allows for OG ren to be played online
@@SkullKidForever oh wait, im aware of w3d hub and i play on their servers, I thought it was fan-made way to play ren, but if it was made by westwood then It's great that they're keeping it alive!
@@boodie4853 W3D is simply just Westwood 3D it is a engine they used to make emporer and stuff.
2:32 that tiny gdi soldier
@@-OG_Thug- I think that's because I was on an elevated surface when firing these
Is there a single player version too?
As in against AI?
@@IkeFanBoy64 , no, I meant like a story version. The one that original Renegade had.
@@T0m0zuki I don't think so. At least not yet
If only they could do a remake on the original singleplayer
I'm more of a singleplayer guy (especially when it comes to fps games) i just have a skill issue,and when i try to play multiplayer i get decimated.
They do have a single player campaign called Black Dawn.
Hate the new ion cannon sound. It also needs the female announcer
Yeah, the new Ion Cannon is a bit underwhelming compared to the original.
What the heck is with all rifles in Renegade X? So, after every shot from sniper rifles and even railgun you must pull the bolt manually?
Railgun just throws metal stuff into the target, but that bolt action makes no damn sense!
Laser chaingun recoil is kinda... out of place. Yes, laser HAS recoil, but not THAT much. It looks more like a woman with machinegun from "Armour of God 2: Operation Condor".
Electrogun in Renegade X gives me that eerie feeling, that gun actually electrocutes user instead.
Effects of old Ion Cannon were just like in Akira.
OG Renegade have really good sound effects and animations...X has weaker sound effects but still it's really good..
I think you have some problems with your original Renegade installation: the Ion Cannon is desynced, weapons don't spawn muzzle flash and the nuke explodes before reaching the ground. I played Renegade a lot when I was a kid and these things caught my attention while watching your video. I have no idea what is causing it, maybe too many FPS?
@@usuarioextra9324 Yeah, I dunno what causes that either. I assumed it was just the jankiness that game tends to have.
This is so amazing - forgive my ignorance but I assume this is a mod?? When did this happen? I gotta Google this because I loved Renegade back in the day, so many hours in MM
It's a standalone remake of Renegade in Unreal Engine
هل من الممكن ارسال الرابط احتاج التنزيل الاثنين
How we can play X???😢
Man i hope this remake gets some more love. Credit is due for getting the game out there, though; so many fan projects never get to the release state
The Hawkeye in Renegade X is nonsensical.
It reloads as a tube magazine gun, in a gun without tube…
They shove 5 rounds directly in the chamber… was it hard to just give it a magazine?
Cnc Renegade is like chess, Renegade X is like checkers.
does renegade X have the campaign or just skirmish?
Just skirmish, I think
OG renegade will always be better, no ifs ands or butts
like new nuclear strike 👍
Definitely feels more like a proper tactical nuke
原版的鎗聲聽起來很空虛，X版的鎗聲聽起來感受更實際，更有在戰場上的氣氛，做的好
thx for the vids
I really like most of these, only 3 I think are bad would be flamethrower, chem thrower and volt. X flamethrower model looks worse than original and all 3 X versions firing animations look worse than originals. Especially the flamethrower. Though the volt firing animation looks janky in original to. I think it’s less of the fault of the original and mod animators and more so games technical limitations.
Aside from those the rest are a very nice looking improvement.
@@BreadApologist I honestly love the Volt Auto Rifle. The secondary ability is actually pretty cool.
I can get why you may not like it. The chamber not being teaming with electricity does make it lose points (even if it makes more sense)
@@IkeFanBoy64 I more so just am not a fan of the firing anims. Either way the majority of the weapons look very good in X. Like I said idk if its really anyones fault on the animations for firing or just the game itself. Also really like the removal of the god forsaken puke green overlay in the scopes. That stuff was hideous.
@BreadApologist You can tell that they definitely did put care in revamping the weapons in this game, at least
@@IkeFanBoy64 indeed they did, cant please everyone obviously thats just life. They did do a really good job though.
Ppl here complaining about how "the guns dont sound like the original!" Cannot, CANNOT, tell me, that the original sounds were in any way like...really good or ground breaking. You fire the laser rifle on full auto and tell me "yep this will never get old!" You're crazy.
This is a fan remake, with a lot of sorely needed updates, Renegade is at the very least a dated game, and the new sounds seem just fine, they feel realistic and punchy. Granted it'd be nice to know what someone is shooting at you from sound alone but, not when it's sounding as obnoxious as the laser chain gun...
Отдача у лазерного оружия...
I can already tell the shotgun in Renegade X is just a Spas-12.
I mean, it makes sense in terms of standard issue shotguns
Ren x is better but both seem to be using stock sound effects. At least ren x is a fan momoand thats forigeable. I would just go to a gun range in the US or borrow guns and copy those sounds and then feed them to an AI model to make them sound better or beefier.
@@besg5725 Renegade X was in development well before AI models were a thing, to be fair
Wtf did they do to the personal ion cannon. The old made you feel like you were actually holding some scifi prototype with the majority of the gun just being a battery pack. The new one looks poopoo.
Renegade or renx is the best game free
I like weapon sound from Renegade more than RenegadeX 😢
Do people still play this game.
Looks very nice.
Yeah Renegade X looks to be only on the surface to be faithful. All the weapons look... like washed out versions of the actual game's. Like they're clearly modern equivalents but more... inspired from rather than actually faithful and dedicated to the game they originated from.
All the classic, distinctive sound cues have been washed out and largely removed, and everything is more reminiscent of "modern shooter with C&C flavor" rather than "C&C Renegade faithful remake"
Gun sounds are so lame in newer game lol. I prefer good old strong gun sound
The new game is fan made so... It's really an honor to even be able to play it.
@@水氵 Also, it's probably a lot easier and time-saving to just source gun sounds from other games or a library than it'd be to recreate/update the old sounds
@@IkeFanBoy64 yea,although i wish there was a way to mod the original sounds back in.
Dude that pistol is litteraly a 22 LR. C'mon...
I think it's actually 9mm with an internal suppressor
(That's what the wiki says at least)
2002 GotY
Animations,arguably better and more smooth,sounds ehhhh...bit of a downgrade,they sound a little weak,not as beefy as the original and honestly probably the worst part of these weapons,the sounds being a little weak sounding,even the ramjet sounds a little too weak
renegade > renegade x, get a fucking 3th person view and free aim!!!
to bad the admin abuse is really bad in renegade x or id still be playing
Original sound more better
Renegade x ramjet make no sense
The Ramjet's meant to act as an Anti-Material rifle. I think it makes sense
Sprint ruined renegade X
Old sounds are much better, new ones is not realistic and overall not fit big guns. People who made sound design probably never shoot.
Minigun was so so, but new is just a joke, wtf is that?