Thanks for the honesty in this video. The humor helps too! It would be interesting to see success stories and how long it takes them to break even on their investment.
That's a good idea! I'll have a dig around. The big truth is that authors almost never break even with their first book - the ones who do make money have multiple book to sell to every reader they acquire. However, there are more reasons to self-publish a book than to turn a profit on it.
Picture books are a completely different market; editing tends to be a very small part of that budget compared to illustration costs. Take your $27 to the Japanese Stationary Awards and treat yourself to some prizewinning writing tools 🖊
Ah yes indeed - we also exclude picture books from our editing calculator as the per-word rate is enormous (as most picture books are only like 32 pages long with around a thousand words.)
Where's that book on successfully running a Kickstarter campaign? Oh yeah, in my library. Now I just need to read it a couple of times and commit to it. :/
@@alexp601 That's the thing, though. The AI is, after all, a machine. Whatever it gives is a collation of input from humans (like Google, except we have to sometimes ask the AI for its source for the info). And as our friend from Reedsy has replied here, the differences b/w the two are kinda hazy, so it's not that the AI gave a wrong answer, per se, it's more a matter of us deciding whether to see basic editing (which is what Copy-editing it) as having two subdivisions or as one process. In subdivision terms, Line editing, from what I've learned, is more about maitaining the "Author's Voice" (choice of words, choice of phrasing), along with the correction and grammatical consistency (likely w.r.t. the preferred Style guides) that comes in Copy-editing. In fact, where I live (India), at least on a local level, we have subdivisions even for Developmental -- Structural and Substantive. Structural is figuring out which paragraphs or sentences or dialogue exchanges or even parts of a sentence would fit better elsewhere than their current state if deemed so. Substantive is often used interchangebly with Developmental coz it involves similar things.
@@thatfilmydesaikid Yep my point was that ChatGPT wouldn’t be able to understand or explain all of those nuances you just explained, because it takes a person to say all of that based on personal experience and life experience. That’s the information we should be getting. A machine has information from humans, yeah, but it doesn’t actually ‘know’ anything. It regurgitates information in a mostly non-helpful way that can sometimes either be wrong or just unhelpful, which leads to people being confused like the OP. So I was just saying we shouldn’t rely on the information of a machine over a person. And this discussion has proved my point.
My advice for first-time authors is to get published by someone else, e.g. Harper Collins, you'll learn an awful lot and after that, you can go into self-publishing. I did the same with my novels and it's my guidance to everyone out there
It’s not _that_ easy to get published traditionally. I know plenty of great writers who’ve been in querying hell for years. Sometimes publishers just don’t want to take a chance on a certain type of writer
@LisaThomas-TheLiquidator Of course not, was it something I said? In my own case, I had a mentor. Perhaps that's an unfair advantage, but nonetheless, good story, good plan = long-term profit and satisfaction
TBH, I was a bit nervous when Shaelin departed. I see that was completely unfounded. This is another example of useful, quality content. Thanks!
I'm glad you've enjoyed them! Thanks 😊
She left? Why?
@@ObsidianFoxPlayz I think she’s about to start an MFA program. She still posts on her own channel from time to time, though.
@@bakerhalI Ah ok, thanks!
Next video: work out the average profit for each book, and how many books you have to sell to break even with those costs…😊
Thanks for the honesty in this video. The humor helps too! It would be interesting to see success stories and how long it takes them to break even on their investment.
That's a good idea! I'll have a dig around. The big truth is that authors almost never break even with their first book - the ones who do make money have multiple book to sell to every reader they acquire.
However, there are more reasons to self-publish a book than to turn a profit on it.
Very informative, thank you.
Picture books are a completely different market; editing tends to be a very small part of that budget compared to illustration costs.
Take your $27 to the Japanese Stationary Awards and treat yourself to some prizewinning writing tools 🖊
Ah yes indeed - we also exclude picture books from our editing calculator as the per-word rate is enormous (as most picture books are only like 32 pages long with around a thousand words.)
And YES, I should definitely get some new gel pens!
Dang, it’s a lot more than I expected.
Where's that book on successfully running a Kickstarter campaign? Oh yeah, in my library. Now I just need to read it a couple of times and commit to it. :/
Buy a takeaway with the change!
Butter chicken, pilau rice, garlic naan. Done 👍
Get yourself drink with the remaining $27.
🍻
Well I’m priced out of this.
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Chat GPT tells me that line editing and copy editing are two separate things. Now I'm confused.
Lol that's what you get for asking a machine instead of listening to a person
Some editors differentiate between the two, but we fold them into one service: “copy editing” as the differences are pretty hazy.
@@Reedsy Thanks!
@@alexp601 That's the thing, though. The AI is, after all, a machine. Whatever it gives is a collation of input from humans (like Google, except we have to sometimes ask the AI for its source for the info). And as our friend from Reedsy has replied here, the differences b/w the two are kinda hazy, so it's not that the AI gave a wrong answer, per se, it's more a matter of us deciding whether to see basic editing (which is what Copy-editing it) as having two subdivisions or as one process.
In subdivision terms, Line editing, from what I've learned, is more about maitaining the "Author's Voice" (choice of words, choice of phrasing), along with the correction and grammatical consistency (likely w.r.t. the preferred Style guides) that comes in Copy-editing.
In fact, where I live (India), at least on a local level, we have subdivisions even for Developmental -- Structural and Substantive. Structural is figuring out which paragraphs or sentences or dialogue exchanges or even parts of a sentence would fit better elsewhere than their current state if deemed so. Substantive is often used interchangebly with Developmental coz it involves similar things.
@@thatfilmydesaikid Yep my point was that ChatGPT wouldn’t be able to understand or explain all of those nuances you just explained, because it takes a person to say all of that based on personal experience and life experience. That’s the information we should be getting.
A machine has information from humans, yeah, but it doesn’t actually ‘know’ anything. It regurgitates information in a mostly non-helpful way that can sometimes either be wrong or just unhelpful, which leads to people being confused like the OP. So I was just saying we shouldn’t rely on the information of a machine over a person. And this discussion has proved my point.
i'll probably just give up and cry ahahaha
My advice for first-time authors is to get published by someone else, e.g. Harper Collins, you'll learn an awful lot and after that, you can go into self-publishing. I did the same with my novels and it's my guidance to everyone out there
You made trad publishing sound like an "option". It's more of a lottery.
@kettanaito Only if you're a rookie, a good manuscript, budget and marketing skills make it mere fact
It’s not _that_ easy to get published traditionally. I know plenty of great writers who’ve been in querying hell for years. Sometimes publishers just don’t want to take a chance on a certain type of writer
@@AdmiralBeethovenYou’re joking, right?
@LisaThomas-TheLiquidator Of course not, was it something I said? In my own case, I had a mentor. Perhaps that's an unfair advantage, but nonetheless, good story, good plan = long-term profit and satisfaction
I need a sugar daddy 👨
Don’t we all (sigh)