8700K 5.2GHz BIOS Tuning 10-Minute Walk-Through
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- So, you want to overclock and don't know where to start? This video may help. Take it slow and easy, and make sure your cooling is up to the task. If you found this helpful and want to show some appreciation, Mr. Fox's PayPal link is www.paypal.me/...
i run 5.2 @ 1.424v and 1.46v (4000mhz/cas16/16/36) on the RAM
I was running 1.415 for awhile and may go back down as i think my mem controller was the biggest culprit with stability but havent finished testing.
any idea if this is safe for a 24/7
i do a tad bit of video de/encoding but mainly gaming and in a bleeding edge game im usually running 65ish temps with spikes sometimes hitting 75.
Such a great video thanks man got my 8700k to 5.1 @1.39v highest temp 73 you earned a subscriber!
Awesome. Thank you.
These settings are really stable. The issue I am having with them is restarting / turning my computer off and on again. For some reason I have to do this multiple times. Keeps failing the first few boots. Any idea why this would happen?
I am not sure without direct access to the machine for testing. If I had to guess, my first guess would be something with the RAM. If you leave all the settings the same except for lowering the RAM clock speed does it have any issues?
It should be fine.
These boards are not like older ones.
The "issue" you are noticing is most certainly memory training.
Happens on mine, happens to many.
What RAM/settings are you running ?
If all is running fine and memory is correctly applied and verified in windows then all should be good. Don't let it worry you
you can oc the ddr 4 memori just doit this : 18-19-19-39
Thank You So Much Mr.Fox 😀
@MrFoxRox, great video! It's very comprehensive. Followed most of your guidelines to achieve my overclock. I've got an i7 8700k *not delided*, watercooled by Kraken x52 (240mm rad), paired with the Asus z370-F and the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB @3200Mhz. The board is certainly not the best one, judging by its reputation. But I was able to run at 5GHz / 1.285V / "stable" on virtually every test except the latest prime95. The load Temps were reaching 75 - 80 °C (AIDA64 FPU ONLY TEST). Everyday use, gaming, video editing etc. is perfectly stable.
Now, I've decided to try and overclock the CPU using adaptive mode. I feel like I might appreciate the adaptive mode a bit more. Any tips regarding this? What should I disable or leave as is?
Thanks for the kind words, and congrats on your overclocking results. You don't really need to change other setting. You can simply switch to adaptive more. You will want to be sure that when you use an offset the max voltage is no greater than intended.
@@MrFoxRox Alright! I had my fun with adaptive voltage and the constant conundrums it causes is just not worth it. So, that's why I've settled for 4.9Ghz at 1.23V. The cpu remains fairly cool with the load temps staying below 70°C. I don't think I've killed the silicon lottery, but the chip isn't bad either. Of course, it is NOT delidded, but I plan on doing it soon. I expect at least 10 - 15 degrees lower load temps so I will have more headroom for 5Ghz OC.
-- Going through your video once again, I've realized that the constant voltage isn't that bad, especially when you find the stable numbers. Once again, thank you!
@@DARKRAYH good to experiment as you did. It really helps you know what works best. Nice job. Yes, you should expect anywhere from 10 to 20°C thermal improvement from a delid, and I fully expect that 5.0GHz will be doable. I think you do have a nice chip, it just needs to be cooler for all the niceness to shine through. :)
I did this but when i run cpu beachmark than hanging my computer why?
Not all CPUs are made exactly the same and it's possible that you need to add more voltage for your CPU. Some require more and some require less because it varies by the quality of the silicon. Depending on the bin quality of your CPU it might not be able to overclock as high. Or if yours is better it might overclock higher. But it still may take a higher voltage value.
6:58 there *is* reason for the pump to run slower.
It's setting affects temp performance the lowest and pump degradation and failure is one of the biggest risks in using liquid coolers.
that being said, I also run it 100%; difference being I am aware of it and do not delude myself.
ekdromoi like you, I run my pump full speed 24/7. If it wears out I will replace it and run the new pump full speed until it wears out.
Is vccio safe at those voltages I think my 8700k is garbage struggles with pretty much any overclock cant wait to get rid of it
I think so. Never has any issues with it.
instant bluescreen on 5,2, i can get it to boot on 5,1 ghz but the bench kills it.
Maybe i have a shit bin. got a waterloop so cooling should be fine.
Delid + conductonaut that sucker. I thought I had shit bin, then delid and boom, 5.2 @ 1.4v, 80ºC max.
I got 5.1ghz 1.37v stable. but at 5.2 1.4v non delid 86C max
Very helpfull video for beginners like me :d
I'm planing to build my first pc in couple months. I want to make high-end a little bit. %90 going to use it for gaming maybe 10% for arcitechtural rendering with 3dsmax ( my brothers thing )
I'm thinking of getting this list after some research :
Maximus X Code
8700k siliconlottery.com 5.1
G.Skill F4-4133C17Q-32GTZR
Strix 1080 ti OC
9x 120mm Silent Wings 3 Pwm high-speed ( 3 for AioFanReplace and make pull on top to out - 3 intake front -1 intake bottom -1 exhaust back)
Alphacool Eisbaer 360 aio
970Pro m.2 512gb (for os etc)
970Evo m.2 2tb (for games)
EVGA Supernova 1200 P2
Cougar Panzer (Case)
First of all what do you think of my list ? If its ok, do you think motherboard and 8700k at 1.412v -2 avx 5.1ghz can handle 32gb (4x8gb) 4133mhz 1.4 ram ?
Excuse me if i'm asking stupid question :d new to this pc thing :d
Have a nice day sir ✋🏼
Hello. Thank you for the kind words. I am glad the video was helpful. Yes, that should be a really great system and the CPU should easily handle what you are wanting it to.
MrFoxRox
Thanks for quick answer 👍🏼I appreciate that. Looks like i good to go 😄
Hello there - cool guide. Running late to the party here. At the moment running 4.9 Ghz at ~1.330V , using 280mm AIO , i'm not really pleased with some idle temps / full load temps (especially in Cinebench R15, some cores get to 85-90 degrees there)
CPU is delidded yes
I will surely also try your guide / will do the full walkthrough with OCing the RAM memory, got no XP in that, so will just leave it to XMP level
Take care, stay safe
Have you tried using Adaptive voltage? The Asus X Hero seems to be completely broken, even latest bios 1301 and 1401 are broken when it comes to adaptive voltage, i can't get it to properly work, i had a Strix z270g gaming and in that board worked just fine.
Nico O. I normally do not use adaptive voltage. What does it do that makes you say it is broken?
Well, i usually find my stable voltage using manual vcore and then switch to adaptive to let the vcore go down and have all C-states enabled, when you find it, in my case 1.260v, you type that in the "Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage" in bios, but did that and well, my vcore went to 1.57v !! When in my z270 worked just fine! Just wrote to asus about it, might just RMA my board if that doesn't work propperly.
The Z370 X Hero?
Adaptive worked on bios 1301 and now on 1401 for me. There is some overshoot but nowhere near what you describe. For example my bios setting of 1.33v using load line calibration level 6 produces a peak Vcore of 1.376v under AVX stress testing. Under normal load it goes to 1.344v.
Did you enable SVID and set SVID behavior to 'best case scenario'? Also under internal CPU power management you need to set both IA AC & IA DC load line to 0.01.
Yes, I think this is the key about setting IA AC & IA DC Load Line both to 0.01. Otherwise the overshoot is too great. I'm also on 1401 trying to get adaptive to work to save power and CPU life.
Great video fox. Do you think 5 ghz is achievable for my 8700k with an h110i and a z370 a? my idle sits at around 30 idle and 50 load, but im wondering if the h110i is enough cooling since i havent delidded at all
Julian Treiger yes, most likely. You need to delid regardless. That will make a huge improvement. Thanks for the compliment. Glad you.liked the video.
no way without delidding.. .
@5.2Ghz with delid, liquid metal (on both die and IHS substrates), 0.065Mv v-vore overvolt in XTU or DVID on MOBO, and 150W short-term PL2 and 95W long-term PL1 @10sec. Was pretty close to getting 5.3Ghz, but one core refuses without ample voltage up-titration. (BTW, I have the same cooler. However, I connected the fans seperately to the MOBO. It doesn't even break 69c, nor ramp up!)
How can I get the data panel that you have on the top right?
That is an AIDA64 Sensor Panel. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-1529#post-10689269
MrFoxRox thanks can I go to use the template, I do not know how to make it work
This will give you some examples. ua-cam.com/video/yJad1Z-zQDk/v-deo.html
Benchmark results are available here: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-nbr-desktop-overclockers-lounge-laptop-owners-welcome-too.810490/#post-10627572
Im adraid to do this. Not sure my water cooling is great enough. Hate to fry my new gaming pc!
It might not be, but it will not cause any damage to test and find out. With monitoring tools like HWiNFO64 you can find out easily, and it would take a.lot of time and abuse to harm anything.
@@MrFoxRox What is a good temperature range? What is to high? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. This is my first attempt ever on overclocking
@@MrCwhitt75- it goes without saying that the cooler you can keep the CPU and GPU and VRMs the better. The CPU and GPU will begin to thermal throttle and decrease performance if they get too warm. If you can keep the CPU below 85°C when under overclocked load you will be fine. A Pascal GPU will begin to "thermal throttle" at only 50°C (which is super stupid). In terms of "safe" your Intel CPU will turn off the computer if it overheats. This is not good, but it does that to prevent damage, so you will not fry the CPU. The GPU needs to be kept under 85°C if you want it to last a long time. I would be worried about durability if you see either one hovering around 90°C (sustained) on a frequent basis, but even 100°C is not going to result in a sudden and catastrophic failure. Some laptop manufacturers are saying that Intel and NVIDIA are stating these insane temperatures are normal and OK, but I do not buy that. The thing you need to be more cautious of is using too much voltage, especially if the parts are getting hot.
Hope this helps, bro. Long story short, you don't need to worry about killing your CPU and GPU from high temperature. Have fun with the overclocking. You should be warned that overclocked benching is a highly addictive hobby. It's my favorite thing to do now, and it totally displaced PC gaming as my favorite activity more than 5 years ago.
@@MrFoxRox Appreciate all the info
Hi MrFoxRox, I thought I would mention my success at 5.2ghz on an 8700k with a custom water cooled EK setup. I started with der8auer's guide here (der8auer also does super cooled overclocking as is very well known in overclocking circles): ua-cam.com/video/CoUtA7DKXhU/v-deo.html It was very easy to get 5.0 ghz based on his recommendations and then push things up to 5.2 ghz easily with the VCore at 1.33 in my bios. I have temps bouncing around 60c with prime95 running 15-30 minutes with AVX instructions disabled. Much easier bios setup recommendations by der8auer, but you should check his starting recommendations out for reference and compare to yours. Maybe I got lucky with my silicon, but 1.47v on your VCore seems a bit high. Oh, I also delided my CPU, I should mention that. The delid and liquid metal Thermal Grizzly between the cpu and the IHS dropped temps at load by 20c. Well worth the delid. I'm just using Arctic Silver between the IHS and my EK CPU water block. Anyway, thanks for doing the video, there are some other interesting things in the bios you mention to play around with. I'm curious how your over clock has gone over the last month. mg
+Max George - nice to hear from you, and your success. Congratulations. I watched that video some time back and it is really good. I have elevated my voltage to achieve better benchmark scores.
5.2 @ 1.33???
Yes... 5.2 @ 1.33 easy with a delided 8700k and running on a real custom water loop... EK Supremacy block. Maybe I got lucky on my silicon. Plus I used liquid metal after the delid between the silicon and the IHS. Between the IHS and the water block I'm using good quality non liquid metal paste.
You can see all my benchmark results here: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-nbr-desktop-overclockers-lounge-laptop-owners-welcome-too.810490/#post-10627572
Max George you got very lucky in the silicon lottery. A lot of 8700K can run 5.2GHz, but most cannot do so with voltage as low as yours. Most can only manage 5.0GHz with 1.300 to 1.350V.
I have the same cpu 1.48v 5.2ghz only cash I have4.9ghz stable and memory 4133mhz cl18
Awesome. Overclocking has never been so easy as it is now.
Maniak fps isn’t 1.48 a little high?
Chicken P no temps is low look video
Since this video was created, I got a different CPU (better bin quality) and now it only needs 1.344V for 52x6. I also purchased some Corsair LPX DDR4-4000 and have it overclocked to 4200 CL16.
Can I get ur 5ghz and 3200 ram profile? Thanks bud.. I have a liquid cooled cpu only
What motherboard and BIOS version do you have?
MrFoxRox ASUS X Rampage newest bios version..
If you have a Rampage motherboard, you have a totally different chipset and CPU, so my overclock profile probably will not even be close to right. What CPU do you have?
can i have it? i'm on the same mobo as you.
Sure. Here are some profiles for whomever has the same motherboard/CPU. BIOS v1301 profiles for 50x6, 52x6, 54x6 and BIOS v1101 profiles for 50x6, 53x6, 54x6 and 55x6. Some of the profiles have the RAM clocked at 4133 or 4200, so be sure to change those settings to whatever works for your RAM. The voltage may need to be lower or higher, depending on the quality of your CPU. Here is a link to where I saved them on my Google Drive: tinyurl.com/Mr-Fox-ASUS-Profiles
hello,merry xmas my friend,btw dellided cpu?and which IO?do you using
Hey, thanks. Merry Christmas to you too, friend. Yes, that was a delidded CPU. I am not sure what your second question is about the IO that was used.
@@MrFoxRox 240 or 360mm radiator?and which one?i wanna delidded it too,maybe i will try if the future,my cpu can boot and post at 5.2 with 1.4v but stable olny 4.9k with 1.325v around 85c max,with 360mm deepcool radiator and grizzly paste
Oh, the cooling at the time of the video was Thermaltake Flo Riing 360MM AIO. You should delid. It will reduce the temperature of the CPU greatly. I always see between 15 and 20°C reduction. This was consistently the case with multiple 4790K, 6700K, 7700K, 8700K and now with my 7960X. With lower temperatures you can increase the clock ratio or reduce voltage with improved stability. Higher temps require more voltage, which likewise increases temps. It is a vicious circle and delidding the CPU will help you break that curse.
Thank you for this, this video helps a lot. I kept myself at 5.1 and just used the video as helping customize the other settings other people missed. MrFox did you delid your CPU?
Tom Chafey you are welcome, bro. Glad it was helpful. Yes, I have delidded the CPU and always do. They run much cooler after.delid and.liquid metal application
Thanks for the very quick reply, I'm have some stability issues with these setting, so I'm tweaking and learning... What delid kit do you recommend? I am very mechanically inclined but I believe it's best to just get a delid kit of some sort. I'm using a 360AIO with 6x noctua static for push and pull, so I believe i'm at a delid ceiling.
Tom Chafey I am a fan of the RockitCool delid tool. I had used it for numerous delids. You can expect about 15-20C reduction in CPU load temps.
By the way, thank you for your generosity. I just saw what you did and I appreciate it.
I bought the kit you recommended and the copper IHS, installed this afternoon. Went through and did all these settings again and viola, stability. Running at 5.2 without issue and no temp over 80c. HOWEVER, would you happen to know which of these settings is removing my raid and other sata drives? I'm using a NVMe 981 1TB in a PCI 16x slot for my OS so that loads but anything connected to a sata port isn't even showing in hard disk management? (I have sata ports 1,2,3,4 in RAID5 as Hardware & 5,6 in RAID1 as OS Software)
Again, thanks! my cinebench is pushing 1600 :D
Tom Chafey you need to enable RAID rather than AHCI. You will find that on the Advanced menu > PCH Storage Configuration. Switch from AHCI to Intel RST Premium (fancy marketing words for RAID). Save and exit. If your array was not corrupted everything should be back to normal. You may have to boot W10 into Safe Mode once after changing that or you will get a BSOD saying inaccessible boot device.
Is 1,5v ddr4 safe?
Ultimate - yes it is. And, increasing voltage is also necessary for higher than normal memory clock speeds. Same principle as any sort of overclocking. The higher you go, the more it needs.
I read on many websites that leaving the voltage above 1.4v could damage the memory controller that stays in the cpu. 1.5v is the maximum safe?
Ultimate - I do not know the maximum safe voltage. It may vary. Some memory cannot handle as much. I also question some of the people that say those things. Some of them are expressing personal opinions as if they are facts. My desktop works fine at 1.5v for the RAM.
Look at Der Bauer's OC tutorial....it has much safer settings....pushed mine to 5.3ghz stable negative avx offset of 2.
Assuming the chips are samsung b-die here the datasheet from samsung:
www.samsung.com/semiconductor/global.semi/file/resource/2017/11/8G_B_DDR4_Samsung_Spec_Rev2_1_Feb_17-0.pdf
page 12
Voltage on VDD pin relative to Vss -0.3 ~ 1.5 v
. Stresses greater than those listed under “Absolute Maximum Ratings” may cause permanent damage to the device. This is a stress rating only and functional operation of the
device at these or any other conditions above those indicated in the operational sections of this specification is not implied. Exposure to absolute maximum rating conditions
for extended periods may affect reliability
So yeah 1.5v is maximum from 24/7 but you are in the border, 1.4 - 1.45 v should be more safe
I can get 5.1Ghz at 1.3v although 5.2 works I don’t like how hot my cpu runs under load hitting 90C. I have an aio cooler (Corsair H115i) Also what Motherboard and cooling are you using? I have a Maximus X Code
Hi bro. My motherboard is a Maximus X Hero (WI-FI AC). I have an XPSC cooling system with RX360 rad and D5 pump with the larger reservoir. My 1080 Ti has a Thermaltank Floe Riing 360 rad. I have replaced the CPU with a better sample since I made this video. I run 5.3-5.4GHz for daily driver clocks, 1.424V for those speeds, and my max temps are in the mid 60s. Have have delidded? If no, that will help. Switch from an AIO to a custom loop, larger radiator and large coolant reservoir can also help.
MrFoxRox Ah ok that’s what I expected. I may delid in the future which will definitely allow me to push the clockspeed further. My case is a little small to fit a custom loop. I have a reservoir mount but I would need to replace the front fans with a 360mm radiator in the front to fit it.
You're lucky, my 8700k can't do 5 ghz with 1.42v LLC6 without crashing Cinebench.
Nico O. I have one like that in my laptop. I have had four 8700K and two of them were very good, the other two were junk.
Nico O. I had my fingers cross that the 8700k I picked out at microcenter won the silicon lottery XD
Is it possible to OC to 4.7 and leave Voltage on "Auto" and be stable too?
If you have an average or better 8700K you should be able to run all cores/threads at 4.7GHz using stock voltage or a little less. You might even be able to do 4.8GHz with no change in voltage.
Thanks for the answer, and btw with 4.7/4.8ghz with auto voltage will not take life time of my cpu right? like it was running on stock speed and voltage?
I suspect it would not have any appreciable effect to CPU life. I have never worried about that before.
Are you sure it's safe to leave the cpu voltage at 1.45v for daily use? I've searched a lot of pages saying that anything over 1.4v will have a degradation
I have been doing it for years without issue. I usually keep a CPU or GPU for 2 or 3 years and have not experienced degradation it that amount of time. For most normal everyday use purposes there is no need to run a CPU at a clock speed high enough to require 1.450V. For example, I run my 7960X at 5.0GHz on all cores for normal use, which only requires 1.415V. If you keep the CPU very cool, it might take a long time to see the effects of degradation. If you allow it to run hot all of the time, you might encounter degradation with lower voltage. Heat is your enemy for all electronics parts, including CPU and GPU.
@@MrFoxRox thanks. Using some of your setting I have tweaked my 8600k to 5.2ghz but it's still kinda tricky. stressing with aida64 the temp went up to 85 degree but for normal gaming it just hoving around 75 .. So what about delidding cpu? Do you think it's worth to try?
Yes, definitely. I delid all of mine. You should see a nice drop in temperature after delidding. Nice job on the overclock.
@@MrFoxRox thanks..also one more question. Should I adjust the AVX offset? I left it at 0. Should it effect gaming or something since as I know the AVX offset can lower the clockspeed
@@longhoang8328 I use 0 for AVX offset.
Hi,
What is the overlay you're running at the top right screen showing all the system specs?
Hello Sean. That is an AIDA64 Sensor Panel. It is included with AIDA64, but you have to configure it to show what you want it to display.
Hey, nice video. Was wondering if you run this overclock all the time? My 8700k also needs 1.45v in bios and 1.47v under Prime95 load to be stable. But I backed it down to 5.1ghz 1.375v because I've never ran a CPU over 1.45 for a 24/7 overclock. I'm running a swiftech 360mm setup with Noiseblocker e-loop fans. The maximum temperature was 76c in Prime95. But never goes anywhere near that for other programs mostly around 40-50c
Hello. Thanks. Yes, I run this overclock 24/7 and have no issues with it. Temps are essentially the same as you are reporting as well. If and when it wears out, I will either buy a replacement from Silicon Lottery or upgrade to i9 HEDT CPU and mobo. Until then, I'm just enjoying the daylights out of 5.2GHz daily driver with good temps.
I have another 8700K now and it handles 5.3GHz very stable with about 1.400V. Much better bin quality than the last one.
The collages for PCH etc seems pretty high? Did you Prime test your settings?
I do not use wPrime or Furmark. Settings work great for daily use and extensive benchmarks. The key is managing thermals. You have to keep it cool.
What do i need to do to just OC to 4.7?
Copper Beard - you can most likely leave everything else stock and set the multiplier to 47 for all cores.
No need to turn off energy saving things? And how about voltage? what do u reckon i need? thanks for the answer btw!
Copper Beard - if you have an 8700K or 7700K just set the multiplier ratio to 47 on all cores and see how it works. Should work fine leaving everything else stock. 4.7GHz is a very mild overclock for either of these CPUs. Your temps will most likely be about the same as stock as well. If your voltage is set to Auto, it might need to be manually lowered a bit. Try it and see.
Hey man is this work on MSI motherboard ???
I do not see any reason it would not.
How do you stay that
@@Rainbow.Dash-1998 I am not sure what you are asking. If you have a MSI enthusiast desktop motherboard and 8700K you should be able to achieve similar results. The wildcard will be CPU bin quality. Some are great and some truly suck. A poorly binned sample will really put a damper on things. If you get a crappy sample you'll want to get rid of it after replacing it with a better one.
MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC, MSI MEG Z390 ACE, MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC is a 3 good looking MSI mothherboard to you to overclock
@@Rainbow.Dash-1998 I am not a huge MSI fan. If I were the Z390 MEG Godlike would get my vote. If you are serious about overclocking, the best one to get is the EVGA Z390 Dark. It is made for hardcore overclocking.
Nice overclock Mr Fox ! I wonder what I can get on my Clevo P870TM ..
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy - You should be able to manage 5.2GHz with 7700K, as I did with the DM3. I would imagine at least 5.0GHz with Prema BIOS and delid, etc.
MrFoxRox hello :) im really newb to overclocking. I tried and set mine to 4800ghz. My system i7-8700k mobo:asus z390-f gaming 2x8gb 3200 gskill tridentz. Cpu cooler kraken x62. Can you help me how much ghz overclock is best and safe for my system. If i ran 5200ghz is it safe??
1.470V?? omg
Yes but really not a big deal. I go as high as 1.650V on chilled water. It's only for benching not for daily use.
@@MrFoxRox yeap beacause 1.42 V for delided cpu is max i think... I am on 1,32V 5.0 GHz and when i wantt 5.1 GHz i must go higher to 1.39V
@@mptraxx5317 not sure where you got that info, but it seems they don't know what they are talking about. That is not accurate, but it may be an opinion someone presented as if it were a fact. People that are into overclocking and serious about it do it all the time.
What is the secure boot you said was garbage?
Secure Boot is a restrictive standard that requires that a device boots using only software trusted by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). When the PC starts, the firmware checks the signature of each piece of boot software, including UEFI firmware drivers (also known as Option ROMs), EFI applications, and the operating system. If the signatures are valid, the PC boots, and the firmware gives control to the operating system. If not, the system fails to boot. Windows 7 and some variants of Linux do not support Secure Boot, so those operating systems will not function unless Secure Boot is disabled. This robs PC owners of the ability to be the masters of their machines and gives that control to the OEM. This is why I say it sucks. Fortunately, good products provide a way to disable that garbage in the BIOS. Micro$oft wants all computers to have Secure Boot permanently enabled so they can decide what OS can be installed instead of allowing the owner of the PC to make their own decisions.
@@MrFoxRox right on, excellent info thanks.
@@MrFoxRox also wanted to ask. I saw your windows 10 optimization video. Is all that still relevant these days? Or would the steps be different? I am new to 10 and doing a build this week. But I know it's full of crap and apparently a recent update had a lot of problems
@@colin8601 yes, still very relevant, but you need to use the latest version of MSMG Toolkit for 1803 and 1809. You can download a pre-debloated ISO modded by Ultra Male in this thread: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-redstone-5.823238/ and check out the tweak and tips in this thread: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-tweaks-and-fixes-index-post-1.779394/ for the ultimate tweaked OS.
@@MrFoxRox thanks a ton for the fast response. Are you active on overclock or any of the other forums?
If the system gets BSOD when the 8700K shows only 70max on record, what's the possible reason behind the crash?
It depended on what the BSOD code is, but most likely voltage is too low if you are overclocking. Not all CPUs are the same. Some take more voltage than others.
Yeah, probably. My 8700K is at 5.1 5.0 corevoltage=1.37v, avx=0, it went through the Realbench and prime95 without a problem. But when going up to 5.2Ghz, the 8700K requires 1.42v to get stable when the ambient temperature is still cold in winter. But it's spring now, the ambient temps rise 10 degree and BSOD happens. I was thinking if it's the VRM that's too hot or something else too hot.
One more interesting thing, did you ever get lower scores after rising Core Cache Ratio? My 8700K 5.1 5.1 's Cinbench score is lower than 5.1 5.0.
I always set my cache ratio 3x less than core ratio and that works really well. So 50x on core, 47x on cache, for example. That works really well for me. However, I never set cache above 48x. Above 48x I do see lower scores.
Hi there very nice video. I need some help. I have 8700K with Asus PRIME Z370-A along with noctua NH-D15S. ( added extra fan)
Can you guide me through.
Because whenever I overclock even to 4.7 at around 1.26V the temps are insanely high under load ( around 80°C playing PUBG)
SO how can I even achieve 5.0 or even 4.9 on my cpu.
I'll really appreciate your help brother.
Hello Brother Tarun PARASHAR - there can be several things causing elevated temperatures. If you are in a hot environment and using air cooling 80°C is not terribly high. If you are blowing hot air through the heat sink it is not going to be as effective. You are 15°C below what can be viewed as critically hot. Most 8700K can run 4.7GHz at around 1.135V so you can try lowering the voltage to that value and see if it helps the temperatures. You can probably run 5.0GHz using your 1.260V that is currently applied. If your 8700K has not been delidded, doing that alone and using Conductonaut between the IHS and die will generally improve temperatures between 10°C and 20°C. Use an excellent thermal paste between the heat sink and IHS like Phobya NanoGrease Extreme or Thermal Grizzle Kryonaut.
MrFoxRox Yeah I live in New Delhi, India. And I don't use air conditioning in my room. I guess you're right, the ambient temperatures are pretty high here.
And I've tried running 4.7 at lower voltages but I always get BSOD while running REALBENCH stress test. I thing I've got a poor CPU then.
And sorry but can't delid it this soon. Warranty is what I need for atleast these starting 3 years. And many thanks for the help you provided.
Perhaps one more favor you can do.
If you can give me exact steps for using all six cores at 4.8/4.8, I am really new and I would be very happy to run this at 4.7/4.8, I just want the stability and lower voltage.
What motherboard do you have the 8700K installed in? Same as mine or something else? Your BSOD would have a code that gives a clue what the reason is. The hotter the CPU gets, the more voltage it requires, which in turn creates more heat. Since you are in a hot environment, you should look into getting a decent 240MM or 360MM all-in-one liquid cooler. They are maintenance free and easy to install. If you can afford it and your case size will allow it, go with 360MM radiator. I am running my CPU at 5.4GHz 24/7 and the max temperatures are only around 70°C under extreme load. I have a 360MM radiator on the CPU and a separate 360MM radiator on my 1080 Ti.
Because there is a wide difference in our ambient temperatures and the cooling solutions we are using, and differences between processors, settings that work great for me may or may not be stable on your system.
Rather than using RealBench, try using Cinebench R11.5, R15 and wPrime 32M and 1024M for testing stability. Use ThrottleStop or (if you have an ASUS board) AI Intelligent Processor 5 or their TurboV Core app to find voltage settings from within Windows that pass the benchmarks without a crash. Once you find the stable voltage for each clock speed, go into the BIOS and apply it.
MrFoxRox thanks a lot :)