Gun store manager testifies in Crumbley parent hearing
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2022
- Cammy Back, the office manager at the gun store where accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbly purchased a 9mm handgun testifies during a February 24, 2022 hearing for James and Jennifer Crumbley. STORY: Crumbley Parent Ordered to Stand Trial www.mlive.com/news/2022/02/pa...
Acting all tough and questioning this store manager like she has done something wrong will boomerang with a jury. Everyone realizes this lady had nothing to do with what happened...Speaking forcefully and smacking paperwork around doesn't make you look smart while questioning this store clerk lol all she did was her job.
I mentioned Sue the gun company in another post and boi got reemed...it was sarcasm to mean...I have recently heard of gun companies being sued...because someone killed another with the guns the guns company produces ..The comment was sarcastic to state the BLAME GAME...is a joke. Kids and parents and schools and laws are all in a bed of their own...if these four entities got together and agreed 18 is a legal age to serve in the military, 21 is legal to obtain alcohol, and first day of life begins the accountability of teaching a child in the way he should go...not will go...lead the horse to water, can't make him drink...the cliches go on and on...but when JUSTICE HAS TO BE SERVED, all the cliches in the world we live in go out the window and CRASH AND BURN TO BLAME THE INNOCENT, REDIRECT BACK TO THE ACTIONS Committed BY A PERSON WHO KNEW BETTER...since kindergarten or as early as preschool was most likely taught right from wrong...EVIL is BORN IN US...IF YOU BELIEVE IN EVIL...
Not even old enough to have a drivers license but parents thought he could handle a GUN SMH
Talk about clueless. It is common for parents to buy a firearm to use for training the kids to shoot and firearms safety along with hunting and personal defense while in case of a home intrusion. All this is non-sense prosecutor BS. The only question that needs to be answered is did his dad turn this firearm over to his son to keep in his room or was it stored with his dad's other guns. I got a firearm when I was 8-9-10 years old for Christmas. It was kept in my dad's room with his guns and I was allowed to use it under adult supervision only for target shooting and hunting. Like I said, that part is common. Now if dad allows his son to take the gun and store it in his room they might make a case about buying it for his son. Their just doing this to try and put every blame they can on the parents. The parent's actual part in this is not realizing their son had serious mental issues and locking up their guns. The parents nor the school wanted to think this kid could do something so awful. Now kids all across the US will end up in jail if they draw the wrong picture or look at a gun or ammo on a phone or computer. We had Gun's and Ammo magazine in our High school library when I was in school a school shooting by a kid had never happen or was ever heard of. My 6 year old grandson got suspended a few years back for doing a finger gun while playing at school. It's either too much or too little.
…a semi-automatic weapon - not designed for hunting but merely for killing humans! To a troubled, depressed teenager whom they spend virtually only sleeping hours with. Ahhhh, the gift that just keeps on giving!!! What geniuses with superior parenting skills and judgment! 🙄
I’m a gun owner, conceal carry. I cannot, under ANY circumstance, buy either of my teen kids a pistol. Hunting rifle, maybe. Locked in a safe, bullets locked in separate safe. It’s not pro guns vs anti gun. It’s logic vs stupidity
@@charlesoutdoors2424 found the ammosexual
@@charlesoutdoors2424 You said," The parent's actual part in this is not realizing their son had serious mental issues and locking up their guns." YEAH thats the whole case. Because of their FAILURE to realize, 4 teens were MURDERED. That is why they are charged with unintentional manslaughter. This has NOTHING to do with WHERE the gun was stored, but rather HOW the gun was stored. It was stored UNLOCKED and accessible to a minor with a history of mental issues, that by the way, the parents DID know about. Talk about clueless indeed.....
I am not stupid enough to have a gun and ammo around a young impressionable kid in times like these!
My daughter and grandson moved in with me & my elderly mom. I immediately removed my gun and ammo and sold them, Right away. They were in a locked case but my grandson was mesmerized by it. My antique 22's also were stored somewhere else. I never wanted an injury or death from curiosity or worse.
I grew up around them. Hunter safety courses etc... He is different and I don't hunt and actually never really did lol 😆
This case has brought a lot of awareness for hopefully more people who need it. ✌
The defense is trying to prove that this purchase was a “special exception” but it isn’t because its CLEAR that the gun was purchased FOR Ethan for a gift. DUH 🙄
The defence attorney for Jennifer Crumbley is condescending. As an attorney myself, I’m disappointed in every one of her cross examinations. She often sounds like the person on trial is the witness, not her morally reprobate client. Did she honestly need to confuse the gun shop owner with complex legal jargon? Her job isn’t to look into a crystal ball and foresee every loophole her customers might later use in trial after their demon of a child murders teenagers, her job is to sell guns with locks on them and do minimal background checks on the purchaser of said guns. Appalling conduct on the part of the defense.
did the defense attorney equate killing kids while shooting up a school to target practice and gun safety class... wtf?
@@themaker298 The parents knew about their trouble teenager going thru mental problems at school drawing pictures of shootings / searching the internet in class for ammo & his mother texts " Its alright I'm not mad at you next time don't get caught LOL ! " The prosecutor asks the gun store manager if Ethan had been with the father that day in the store & said " that's the gun I want " she would not have let the dad buy the gun ! So there was one adult in the gun shop that day .... the store manager.
"Minimal background checks" tell me you have never purchased a gun without saying it.
So potentially there were at least three handguns in the Crumbly household. Unbelievable how negligent and self-centered the parents are. It appears they chose counsel who share their same attitudes.
That’s all they have. There is no excuse for what these parents did. Unless the jury is packed with ammosexuals, they’re going to jail.
I see what the lawyer is getting at, but once that gun leaves the store, the store is done with that gun. What happens to it after has nothing to do with them, and that’s probably why this witness knows little about those laws.
The Defense never ceases to amaze me at how awful they are. It's almost like they think they are going to have these Matlock moments, but it ends up being ludicrous.
This is only the pretrial, I cant wait to see these dopey chicks in the actual trial. That said, while the prosecutor is definitely better, she has made her share of mistakes. I think counsel on both sides are inadequate for the magnitude of this type of trial, but hey, its Michigan
Defense are doing fine. They are representing their clients quite well
@@crli4353 lol how are counsel inadequate?
@@Nall412 yep, they are going to defend their clients "quite well", right into a conviction......lol
They will tank the case, because it's about guns. Who should be able to buy one. Carry one. Sell one. If he used anything else, like a knife, parents wouldn't be there.
Maybe other parents would be less cavalier about buying weapons for kids after this.
Let us hope so..🙄🙄😔😣
They would also have to be REQUIRED to keep guns in gun safes. It will never work. Too many people who can barely afford rent or food go out of their way to buy their f-ing guns. And too pmany parents ENCOURAGE their children to be familiar with guns -- they consider it part of their heritage.
You always have those parents that think they are above rules and laws.
They should already be against doing such a thing.
I doubt it.These aren't the only idiots on the planet. You would think after Columbine fools like this would get a clue.
The defense attorney actually made the case for the father being the straw man for his son when she asked "You couldn't have sold the gun if it looked like it was for the son." Exactly! So the father pretended it was for himself in order to be able to buy it.
Do you know what a straw purchased is?
How does that change the fact the parents bought a gun and didn't SECURE the gun or at least used the free drigger lock . !! Clearly the gun /drigger not locked/ secured . NOTHING HAS CHANGED by the defense questions. It's still the gun owner responsiblity SAFETY FIRST ! Even in a state that doesn't require it.
Those 2 lady attorneys who are representing these parents will lose this case. Not sure how they expected to have their fees paid or if they took these clients because of notiorety or if they did not review enough prior to signing agreements, but they should have been on their guard when the virtual hearing took place after the arrests. I think they latched onto high profile thinking a deal or dropped charges. There is no way a jury will find them innocent.
No kidding! This is such shoddy defense. His attorney only seems to say “ditto!” to whatever _her_ attorney says. Although, playing devil’s advocate, if they had aggressive attorneys like in the Chad Reeves trial then we would be making comments about how that behavior is over the top, verging on immoral, and questioning how on earth anyone would hire them.
I mean, of course they're going to lose - their clients are GUILTY and the prosecution has a hilariously huge amount of evidence to prove it.
@@gfx2943 The Attorneys have nothing to lose. When their clients are found Guilty they lose no reputation nor gain any. If they somehow(Very Unlikely) get a not Guilty Verdict for their clients they become infamously know as the Attorneys that got the parents off scot free when they shouldve been found Guilty.
Their attorneys suck. ! If I speak loud and in a strong voice I will convince them, even if the line of questioning helps in no way shape or form but really just seems to reinforce what the opponents say.
They are banking on make money on interviews and book deals after this trial is over.
The defense case was very weak.
What case?
Those attorneys are unbelievable awful, especially the dark haired one 🤦
Terrible defense!!!!!!
Good. LOL
Audio from hell.
DA: Parents buy guns for their children. Is that fair to say?
EVERYONE: No
Defense is totally clueless. Dad bought the gun it ended up in their sons possession for this mass killing! They have lost all assets because of entitlement. An tnor
An enormous lose for the community! 😞
Did tey hire the attorneys or are they court appointed
@@jeanettebooker2500 They actually paid for the objection twins and probably used Ethans $ to help pay for it 😠 😡 😤
@@tashaawesome6297 objection twins?!? Lol!!!
@@jeanettebooker2500 they are paying for their ineffective attorneys but they thought a public defender was good enough for their son. Total scumbags!
With a trial that starts later on this year the prosecution is going to win this case hands down,too much evidence for these sorry parents to be found not guilty
Ah I think that's why they were planning to fly the coop.
the lady on the stand made a mistake acknowledging whether or not it is Federal Law, her answer should have been "I am not a Lawyer nor am I qualified to make that judgement" and that should have been said many times
If she’s an FPL, she is required to know the law.
Crumbley is totally wasting there money, Prison forever
I don't think they have any money. They spent all they had on horses, and James was an Ubereats driver (or something equivalent) and she had some kind of administrative job. I believe their attorneys are Public Defenders.
Seems to me parents gave up on this son and just wanted to get through two more years to get rid of what they neglected to make of a healthy human being. Too many parents start thinking about the teenager being gone soon and stop mentoring them or parenting them helping them with mental health. They are too busy preserving their life and thinking about the life without the kid to deal with. They may have wanted him to do this if he wanted to they probably thought oh good he can go to jail they will take care of him so he won’t be their responsibility anymore. selfish parents love to do this . They love to be done .
is that what your parents did to you?
I think the parents set this up so he would do something to get in trouble so they don't have to take care of him any longer. What they didn't think of was they were going to be responsible. They probably thought he would off himself. They're lucky he didn't kill them!!!!
Omg, this is getting out of control...
Someone needs to shut Karen up...
Her name isn't Karen.
@@willymaykit1482 yes it is
@@stanhelsing4995 Yeah, I'm pretty sure your just another one of those idiots that call a pissed off woman Karen. Try being a leader instead of a follower.
@@willymaykit1482 Ok, Karen.
@@gfx2943 pissed off women are Karens
You have the right to bear arms and you have the responibily to be help accountable to any injuries caused by that.
Mom is looking at Dad but, Dad is looking straight ahead. Will one turn on the other?
Mum cares about Mum. And her horses. Mum ignores son, doesn’t discipline him, forces him to accompany her on her horse visits, denies his need for mental healthcare, tells son not to get caught planning mass murder, manipulates dad, has extramarital affairs, transfers $3000 from the bank account of her jailed son and plans to skip the country without leaving him with a private attorney and laughs off serious charges… I think Mum will continue her self-serving pattern and approach to life and turn…
@@Ad-Lo Did she have an affair? I thought I saw that somewhere but not sure if it's true. You stated everything I know to be correct but I do not think the son went to the barn with her. Horse folks are such a great group. But I don't think he ever went to the latest barn. I think it's real crap she tried to sell the horses "ASAP" While hiding. Hard to sell horses now, feed costs a lot, upkeep is expensive. The horses have nothing to do with this but I bet nobody buys. Who would want to be involved??
@@Go-Dawgs they both had affairs
Salacious details to come so stay tuned folks
How much u wanna bet that the Mrs. will eventually distance herself from hubby by pleading, "I had no part in purchasing the weapon, but tried to guide the boy in proper use and advice".
That would be smart in this female privilege age we live in.
@@MrJsv650 ..and I'm not saying I as a jurist would accept that argument, but if I'm the attorney, "This may be your best shot, (if you'll pardon the wording 🤭).
@@jerrysky4598 I totally agree with you she would be dumb not to play the v card my man
The defense is going to stumble hard over the social media posts if this is an indication of their strength.
Associate? Employee? Customer Service staff? No, to the gunshop lady it's her "counter guy"
It’s always particularly irks me when people use a possessive pronoun in reference to other people. I play music so I hear this all the time “my drummer…” and it sounds like the band mate is a little action figure on a shelf that gets taken down for gigs and returned when not needed.
I don’t even like to say “My band…” but instead prefer “the band I play in…”
Anyway, your comment struck a chord. Have a great weekend!
@@strummercash5601 it seemed unnecessarily disrespectful, the way she referred to her employee. If it was me I would use cleaner language in a court of law
The gun store manager doesn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine, at least the attorney does.
As much as I believe these parents are guilty AF I'm glad to see them have their hands free now. I did not see the point of keeping them restrained in the courtroom. They may not deserve to have their freedom following the trial but there was NO reason to have them cuffed all the time.
They were signing to each other constantly and making mouth gestures. Some kind of private sign language. The judge ordered them to stop. They continued. She repeatedly ordered them to stop. They continued. That’s why they were in cuffs and masks. If you paid the least bit of attention you’d know that.
@@debshaw680 they were told only once by the Judge to not communicate. Not 'repeatedly'. Why exaggerate?
@@travissys3504 The prosecutor complained several times the parents were signaling one another and being disruptive. The judge finally told them to stop, that it was disrespectful to the court. He was annoyed. So, the Crumbleys must've been at it for some time. I saw them in a video bobbing their heads back and forth. They even used sign language at some point. Anyway, it was enough to annoy the court. It was disrespectful and showed their disregard for rules. But not everyone can catch everything that happens in these cases. I know I pay attention and I still miss things.
@@sansserif8839 Lady, I paid attention. Again, the Court only complained and reprimanded them ONCE. "several" is not accurate. Exaggerating things is plain gossip.
The Parents didn’t care if he brought a gun to school because I. The text message she said just don’t get caught that comment speaks volumes
She meant don't get caught texting but you and everyone else
Are as usual taking it out of context wtf
The text there was in relation to him being on his phone in class looking up ammo. But still speaks volumes
Although the text speaks to her cavalier attitudes about parenting in general, it does not refer to bringing the gun to school. Maybe be informed before spreading false narratives
The point is why did he buy a gun for a unstable kid and not have it and the bullets secured? Are they even sorry he murdered those kids or just missing going to the riding stable, losing the house, cars more on their minds? If your child is finding delight with killing animals you don't go out and buy them a pistol. Seems like Ethan is happy in jail with his tablet, receiving email, having internet, commissary being paid for by well wishers sending him money and he can make phone calls.
I hope his parents have to eat out of garbage cans for the rest of their lives
I hope the government is taking the opportunity to make a list, using the names of the psycho’s who are sending $ into his commissary, sending him fan mail & well wishes through email. Because anyone that thinks what this kid did deserves any type of positive feedback is clearly unstable & dangerous.
@@Amandah00CLC in this place and time, that's hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe millions.
Bingo card square that says - trigger lock found in tiny plastic bag in the case by LE --
Blame anyone, anything, any system, but never blame the person that pulls the trigger.
Pretty sure shooter is in prison so what’s your point again?
@@Avarren … the mentality of the defense lawyers.
@@fredderf3152 ahh, appreciate the clarification!
They're literally so lucky that the courts are even letting them be on trail this soon after. Some people have to sit in jail for a couple years before trial actually starts...
That is because the defense attorneys seem to think that their job at trial will be easier if a lot of time goes by since the crime. So they petition the court for lots of delay.
No way to hide the fact. Mom was on social media that the gun was his present
Let The Trial Begin And Let The Jury Decide Guilty Or Not Guilty Verdict
The Defense lawyers are awful.
I swear lawyers would represent the devil against Jesus!!
That is their job.
I am starting to think that they were court appointed, obviously not top of the line. When I heard them arguing that the parents had no obligation for the safety of the other school children I wonder how safe their children’s schoolmates are. Imagine how the grieving parents feel s hearing these stupid, heartless arguments being presented as logical legal points.
They're not. They're private. The parents hired them even before there was an arrest warrant, and when they got arrested they all decided that one attorney would officially represent the mother, and one the father, and that it would not cause a conflict of interests (cause they both work in one office), and the judge allowed it.
Not sure how good/bad their firm or they themselves are, they were probably the first law firm the parents found anyway, so random chances I'm guessing...
The defense going after the store owner is not a good look
Seriously wondering what Jennifer is taking notes on.
Look at all the people and resources it takes just for this session, and it's not even the trial! What a waste.
But a preliminary hearing determines if it will go to trial, so its actually not a waste.
This defence is throwing rocks at the gun store owners windows, not a good idea. Bang Bang.
Omg, defense- xxxxxxxx CORRECT ? xxxxxxxx CORRECT ? xxxxxxxx CORRECT ? If she were questioning me that way I’d ask her do you really need me here? You seem to have a story to tell and simply want me to agree that’s what IS written.
It almost sounds like the defense is agreeing with the questioning of the prosecutor here, it sounds like a legal sale. I don't really understand what the point was here but establish a few things...the gun was sold to James Crumbley, it was sold with a trigger lock. One thing though unless I'm mistaken the gun left the gun shop with James Crumbley before a background check came back. No waiting period? That's legal? Not that that really matters but I thought there was a waiting period?
they did a background check, he left and came back for they gun. It's hard to hear because of the audio
I can't hardly understand what that woman is saying! The sound quality is awful!
I had to turn on captions
@@miapdx503 Captions didn't work for me as far as what she was saying. For me, it only captioned the lawyer interviewing her and maybe the judge. It was just so bad that I couldn't finish watching because I couldn't understand 95% of what she was saying due to her thick southern accent.
$$$$ is the root of all evil.
Parents are 110% responsible. They provided the murder weapon.
The defence is asking questions beyond the gun store knowledge or relevancy...just terrible. She's a bad lawyer
Awful!!
Lawyers and courts shure know how to milk time for a dollar.
If there doing all this, why we need a repeat fir a trial? Why cant they just show it again and dave courts and witnesses time?
What’s all the racket? Is there a hot mic at the defense table. It’s distracting.
The defense has little to defend, which leaves them no choice but to make everyone else look like they took part in the crime. Its the most basic defense strategies taught in law school, but I'm not convinced by it. In fact, they can't argue the law or the facts.
Ask if the wine has ever been in the gun store before. Because If this was he’s only time. Then it’s automatic that that specific gun was purchased for the son
Apples found in crumbley pudding...
Omg the blond lawyer is so unprepared or unorganized.
Only in America would parents by kids guns
Extra clips LOL I hate when people say that
Why is the defense attorney for mother Crumbley keep playing with her hair while DA is questioning a witness. I Would think she would pay more attention and why doesn’t the defense have any objective to the line of questioning or evidence present
Nervous habit or control thing maybe 🤷🏻♀️
Gotta love when the criminals are taking detailed notes during trial… DEF going to make a big difference in proving they’re innocent… LOL
😆 Look @ that male Crumbly desperately scribbling notes...tho it's said many long term inmates could get law degrees due to studying law books trying to get themselves free.
I get what McDonald is doing but, the full body shackles is a bit much
I gave my son an air rifle and told him not so shoot it if someone was in front of him, my daughter was 20 ft to his right side when he fired his weapon. I took the rifle from him. We talked about it and I agreed my action was Extreme. He realized how serious I am about gun safety and got his gun back. Seems that 30 min discussion with him was way more time than this boy's parents spent with him. The boy knew he was wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, he will murder again especially when he gets to The Big house.
That witness is dumb as a brick. JS. She should NOT be sellin' guns!
I love this model of potato microphone!
You mean to tell me that you can go into a gun store and purchase a gun for someone else Are they crazy are they that greedy for to make money. ...root of money is evil ...They lost there common sense ...
It is against the law to purchase a firearm for someone else in the state of Michigan.
It's called a straw purchase
Purcasing guns for minors should make all involved parents gun shops ect. How come thier isn't a question on form that states the gun is exclusively for the purchaser and if a tradgety such as this horrible incident happens they are all responsible for the death of the innocent students that were gunned down in cold blood. Blood on thier hands . These parents should go straight to jail this young person with emotional problems should be put in a institution that will provide mental health to him. The young man should sue the shop owners as well. This isn't the first time parents purchased guns that were used to shoot up a school setting. Laws should be written across the USA that makes parents absolutly responsible for thier stupidity.
Articulo..310
Articulo..21..16..14
Hope the woman defense attorney is not one of those “long dirty toenails” type.
I hope they let Ethan parents one of them leave him money so he can get snacks chips soda candy shampoo soap extra , "'''' he needs to know his parents still love him even more that he being a grow up like in jail now tuffing it out with metal health counselor taking to him on a daily thing for him that's good for him I'm happy for him he'll come around watch and see God loves him
He doesnt deserve anything
Are you fking serious?
Screw that he commited a big boy crime he's going to do the time
Ethan took the lives of his fellow classmates...if he's in hardship that's a measure of justice. Think of what he's putting all those families through.
he has fans writing him letters and putting money in his accounts, already.
Are guns themselves on trial? Or the parents? What is this case about? If he used a knife, would you be drilling the cutlery?
I had a change of mind your son Ethan is very well guilty dad and so are you and your wife cuz Ethan has planned the killing out on paper it states right and he followed threw with it and parents bought him the gun when they new he was metal I'll already so why would take out for a gun for Christmas but you wouldn't get him help for his metal issues when he was cry out for that kind of help when you guys know he stated he was hearing voices in his head right sorry but Ethan stated it he need help and both of you did nothing about his metal issue in get him help again you all 3 are guilty guilty guilty in my eyes yup send to prison after judge has seen them send them on their way today 2/28/22 send all 3 out
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God is going to give you the same mercy you're giving these parents.
Gee… god didn’t seem to give a shit about all the kids their kid murdered. Amazing how god is so selective, isn’t it. 😂
@Hannah Marie I raised my children and they're good decent people. I think those parents were clueless and didn't think that this boy could have that in him because they did love him. They were in shock when they saw the gun missing and called police themselves. You could hear the real fear and urgency in the father's voice when he called them. They didn't know how to be good parents but that doesn't make them murderers.
@@debshaw680 see yourself? You said "thier kid murdered" not these people murdered. They were bad at parenting, not murderers themselves. Now they have to live with how they came up short.
You are ignoring dead children...😒
@@miapdx503 no I'm not, I'm thinking of the living. Im sorry for those children and thier families, no one should have to suffer through that, but did you know that some of that family didn't want his parents punished for what he did? That was on the news when they first started trying to make a name for themselves by going after those parents. No parents are perfect but some people just aren't cut out for it in the first place. They werent and they will also live with this for the rest of thier lives too. They essentially lost the son they thought they had and my heart goes out to them.
It's been funny seeing so many gun owners feign outrage about these parents' actions, when most of them are absolutely no different. If you have guns in your house and you have children in your house, you are these parents.
No lmao, they have gun safes, and their children aren't obviously mentally deranged.
Literally completely different. It's like saying "all you car owners feigning outrage at that drunk driver's actions, even though you own a car and drink liquor"
The saleswomen should be held accountable for not identifying the threat! Smh what a grim world we live in!
Let me start off by saying these people are evil and deserve to rot away in jail and the kid a death sentence but you couldn’t be more wrong, why the hell can’t a grow ass man take his kid to a gun store when he’s making a purchase? Idiotic, there was zero threat to identify at that time.
She was supposed to read their minds?!? What is wrong with you??? Now every person has to have the ability to see the future to sell firearms?
Barry, has the need to be the center of attention, that is why he says stupid 💩.
Obviously the gun shop manager wouldn’t or couldn’t have seen the future, but it is pretty crazy to me that a child or a minor is even allowed into these stores! In my state, they don’t allow anyone under the age of 21 to enter a smoke shop, & you have to be 18yrs old to go into an “adult toy store”. I don’t know the statistics, but how many ppl have used adult toys or smoke shop accessories to kill multiple ppl in a school, or anywhere?!
If our country considers those places unacceptable for minors, why in the world are they allowed to go into a gun shop?! Just very strange conflicting considerations of what minors are able to mentally handle IMO…
Barry,
Are you serious....?
It should be law that people who sell firearms MUST be educated enough to not refer to magazines as "clips". This backwoods country doublewide owner should stick to selling bibles.
Your comment right here shows you are part of the problem...
She also said that the cable lock locks the trigger LOL. It goes through the action... There are trigger locks, but they're not cable locks smh.
@@WhyPhi Exactly, its a good thing she isn't the one selling firearm......oh wait, never mind.