I have breitling superocean heritage 2 and I can say it has the best bracelet ever. Even better than my submariner oyster bracelet. It's such a underrated watch. If you are into mesh bracelet, please give it a try, you won't regret.
That’s the watch that got me interested in mesh bracelets. I like Breitling in general. I have a chrono Avenger. The SOH II chrono was on my list until I saw it at the AD with a scratched bezel on display. I was shocked to be honest. It was the first time for me to see a ceramic bezel with such a visible scratch, on what’s supposed to be a new watch nonetheless. Have you had any issues with scratches on the ceramic insert of the bezel?
@@DavesWatchLove I picked up a Breitling super ocean ii on the rubber strap. Great deal on it. Picked up the Staib from LIW and looks fantastic. Think Staib make them for Breitling. Good to have options
A great mesh watch band review. I've been looking at the STAIB bands after hunting all over the net, and must admit, this is the must have mesh band if you have a valued time piece.
Excellent video, really appreciate the detailed review. I will be purchasing the Staib High polished Butterfly clasp mesh bracelet for my new SEIKO SKX 007J on my 7.25 inch wrist. Thank you!
Nice review! However, one advantage of the less expensive models in your review is the relative range and ease of size adjustability. Right from the start, the wrap-around type of mesh bracelet will fit a wide range of wrist sizes with near infinite adjustability, and because of the clasp design, the fit can be resized almost on the fly (all that is needed is a paper clip and about 2 seconds) at any time during the day. The clasp on the Milanaise-style bracelet I have is also very secure, and much more discreet than the monster clasp on the STAIB model.
I saw the Heritage bracelet live in the flesh yesterday, and it's not as hefty as the Staib. The Staib is much more significant in the hand. But the Heritage bracelet is more tightly woven and has a bit of a dressier and flashier (Breitling!) look to it. But yes, Staib is an excellent replacement for MUCH less money and certainly an equal in quality.
Thanks Dave. As I'm ordering the Christopher Ward and also have an lovely Orient Ray I decided to get this gorgeous Staib bracelet. I'm wondering if the newest version of the Christopher Ward will require me to slightly bend the pins! There is also a newer version of the strap!
Love your collection of watches... we have very similar tastes. You owning a Christopher Ward makes me think you have real taste; because YOU know what you like and don't rely on others telling you what you should like.
ill be honest, i got a $15 Chinese knockoff version of the butterfly clasp one, and it was beautiful with exceptional quality. I sold it with a watch so not sure how long it wouldve help up but im sure these are so much better.
Steve … Well Done … I have been Exploring a Milanese Bracelet of Quality for my Rolex Submariner … your presentation lead me to "Staib" …. my thanks …. and so it goes ….
Hi Robert, I just got the limited edition blue dial Sinn104 and I’m here watching reviews for Staib mesh. Just wanna say that I’m a big fan of your channel.
Awesome video! I own a 1st gen (2500 movement) Omega PO XL (45.5mm) and I want to get a Staib mesh bracelet. I think my model uses the 22mm version. Lug to lug is about 47-48mm and my wrist is around 7 inches (give or take a quarter). I think I'll be fine with the medium lenght 150mm version, but I'm still debating on the butterfly vs diver clasp... Which one do you recommend? I'm also going with the Matte version (less shiny version).
This is really a great review. Does this STAIB mesh bracelet fit well with Omega Speedmaster. I am thinking to purchase this one for my Omega SMP 3861. My wrist is about 7”. Do you think that either 130 or 150 mm should be fine for my wrist?
Fantastic video ! Thank you so much. I thinking to buy mesh with the butterfly clasp. My wrist is 7 inches ( 180 mm ) and My Omega 300 Dive is 50mm lug to lug so I should get 150 mm bracelet. Correct?
The clasp on the 22mm bracelet has some normal wear on it, but the bracelets themselves look as good as they day I bought them. The quality really holds up.
Really useful viewpoint, I’ve been wondering about how high a step up I should take over the entry level eBay ones. Do you know or have a view on Vollmer (also German)? Thanks.
Great video, thanks. Sizing on these is so tricky. Would you say that the sports clasp model fits you, in that medium size? At the end it looks a bit snugger than I wear, but you have a couple of pin holes left for adjustment. My wrist currently measures at 7”, but weather etc can alter fit. As you said the fear is that the size up would be slightly too large.
If you have a 7" wrist, definitely go with the medium. There will be plenty of room left. Remember too that on watches with longer lug to lug, you'll get even more room. I put the 22mm on my SKX recently for the first time, and I had to tighten up the bracelet.
Thanks a lot for the help. You definitely make sense. I want to get one for a watch that’s even larger at 53mm lug to lug, so it just makes sense to go medium, in that case. I do hope there’s going to be clearance from the case, though. It’s a Christopher Ward, also.
@@DavesWatchLove Hi Dave! Thanks for the video, I've watched this at least a million times trying to decide the size I'm going to order as it will be a gift... I'm a bit confused about your comment here, isn't the C60's lug-to-lug bigger than that of an SKX? Still you had to tighten up the bracelet? I'm really torn between the 150/170 in 22mm... This will be paired with a vintage 6306 Turtle (~45mm LtL) and the recipient does sport some pretty hefty wrists. I know a watch with a butterfly clasp bracelet with an inner diameter of approx. 205mm in total fits him OK/a bit loose, so that's my reference... Any help/guesses are appreciated, thanks!
Definitely the 20mm one in the video description. BUT, you could probably get away with something cheaper than this, as it might be just a bit thick for the Visodate. Look for my video review of the Visodate. And look in the description for the Strapcode bracelet I used. I was very pleased with that $40 solution on the Visodate.
Would you reccomend the 2784 or 2792 for a Breitling Superocean Heritage 42 ? I bought mine on a rubber strap with a deployant clasp and while i like the clasp i regretted not getting the bracelet straight away. And apparently Staib maked Breitlings bracelets anyway.
I wear the 2792 with my Omega Seamaster 300. It's the more elegant of the two and would look great on the Breitling. If you want something a little thicker and heavier and more aggressive for your dive watch, a 20mm version of the 2784 would be a possibility. The two bracelets actually feel quite different. The extra millimeter of thickness makes a difference.
Hi Dave, loved the video! Couple of quick questions for you: out of the two styles, butterfly and sport strap, which one do you find more comfortable on your wrist? Does the weight of the 4.1mm bracelet feel overwhelming or too much? I am planning on putting the 4.1mm one on my green SMP 300 which is my daily driver so to speak. I love the bulkier/meatier look of the 4.1mm bracelet but not at the expense of comfort. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks!
I have an SMP 300 and wear it often on the thinner butterfly bracelet. It looks nice and well balanced, but also more streamlined. Great for business attire. If you want a beefier look, the 4.1mm would give the watch more heft and presence. Comfort is similar, but the clasp is quite bulky. Not uncomfortable, but the clasp is definitely very thick on the wrist. if you don't mind that, I think you'd like it. Best of luck!
@@DavesWatchLove thanks for the feedback Dave! Good to know its not uncomfortable per say. The only other issue ive seen people have is that the end of the thicker 4.1mm bracelet rubs against the casing of the SMP 300 which is not good lol. Although, they say that you can use thinner spring bars to take care of that though so hopefully that works for me. Here's hoping. Thanks again Dave!
Thank you for the in depth review. I have a new Seamaster 300M Black and I wanted to get the highest quality mesh bracelet. Do you know if this is as good as it gets? I'm concerned that the polish wont be deep, rich and luxurious enough to match the casing of the Seamaster. Is this the case or will it work? I frankly wouldn't mind spending more since I'm trying to obtain similar quality to what's offered by the Breitling Supercean mesh. We all know that's as good as it gets but I'm sure that's 1000+ OEM bracelet.
I've tried on the Breitling Superocean mesh, and man, was it shiny and blingy (which I really liked). I can't say the Staib bracelets are as high polished as that, but you definitely feel the quality and the shine on the polished editions are still good. I'd say yes, it's about as good as it gets in third party mesh.
I think even with a smaller dive watch, a thicker mesh is better. I imagine the lug width has moved from 22mm to 20mm. The 20mm Staib mesh bracelets are less bulky and would look great on a 40mm CW. I wear my 20mm Staib on my 41mm Omega Seamaster Professional and it's a perfect match.
I am looking to buy Staib bracelet with butterfly clasp. I have the same size wrist as you and can't decide on the size 150 vs 170. How did an extra link that you bought from Amazon work for you? Can you please comment on it and give a link to it? Are you happy with this bracelet after having it for years? Thanks!
The 150mm has worked out well for me. It's been a great investment. The extra link made it fit perfectly on smaller watches. holbensfinewatchbands.com/products/staib-3792-polished-link?variant=16232437612655
@@DavesWatchLove Thanks for your response. I just received 150mm bracelet today and it is also tight on my wrist. My reasoning for ordering 150mm vs 170mm was that I would need to remove 3 links from 170mm bracelet and that would make the clasp look too short. I like the look of the longer clasp and decided that I would rather buy an extra link to extend 150mm. What do you think, did an extra link (#9) in your case make the clasp too long and somewhat break the design?
There are 3 sizes (short / regular / long) get the long one so you can resize it by removing the links. You have 4 links to adjust so get the long one for a peice of mind especially for 7" wrists
Thank you for this review! My wrist is also 185mm and I just ordered a 170mm milanese from watchgecko for my 47mm lug to lug watch. Glad I didn't go with the 150mm bracelet. Hope it works out 🤞
My Staib came in today … Mine is the one on your CW … mine does not have Germany inscribed on the clasp ? … purchased from Island watch? should I be concerned?
caspersea - That's interesting. I doubt there's a real concern, but it might be worth a call to Long Island Watch to ask if the latest editions lack the Germany name on the clasp. But if it feels super solid, you've got the real deal!
caspersea I believe the mesh is now manufactured elsewhere (you know) but still to Staib tolerances and assembled and finished in Germany. Doubt you'll have any issues but let us know!
Remember, wrists swell and if you dont have a few options it may at times be very tight. Also, no divers extention to open to cover a wetsuite. As an engineer id be concerned about arcing any pins. The quality of this brand is worth the price. They even have notches on the pin cylinder to remove the pins ez.
You should. It would also show you don't need a large watch collection to be happy. Still can't believe you sold the Marathon. I want to buy one, but their prices have increased too much the past two years.
Hi Dave. Thanks for the outstanding review and the tip which saved me from (1) erroneous length issues and (2) buying the wrong mesh bracelets. Happy thanksgiving! I am planning to purchase the same 22mm lugged, 4.9mm thick staib bracelet for a Tudor Smiley 79220R. The BB has some strap and bracelet challenges as the lug holes are situated a bit lower and far from the case. Just wanted to seek your help and advise on the thickness of the 22mm bracelet ends, can you share its measurement please? This may sort out the gap size between the case and bracelet lug ends. However Im a bit worried that it may protrude on the front side of the watch when worn on the wrist. I really hope you could help me out. I'm planning to purchase the matte version. I'm just really concerned that it might not work with my BB and the cost would be quite huge to bear for a bracelet fail. Thanks in advance.
Hope it’s no bother, but I have another question. With the config you had with the 22 in this video, could you fit a finger inside the band comfortably? I tend to wear it so there’s a little bit of movement.
Dave's Watch Love thanks so much for that feedback. I guess if you let it out that final notch it would have been a bit roomier, too, by maybe 2-3mm? Is for a larger watch even, at 53mm, I should probably just relax, but it’s not a cheap band.
Wow, that's a close one. My Speedy is the 44mm and the 150mm fits well on my 7.25 inch wrist. But with the slightly shorter lug-to-lug on the 42mm, it would be close. Since you're closer to a 7 and a half inch wrist, then the 170 would probably be the best bet. You'd might have to remove most of the extra links. With the 150mm, you can always get extra links for about $17 each. Just know that with Long Island Watch, they won't take it back unless all the original wrapping is on it. So that will all be off before you know if it fits. :-/ It's a shame there's not a little bit of overlap on the two sizes.
I have a question regarding the butterfly clasp. About 3 years ago I bought a mesh bracelet from Watchgecko that looks practically identical to the one attached to your Aqua Terra (it says "Geckota" on the clasp; I don't know who made it). I found the butterfly clasp to be a bit uncomfortable. Either some of the edges are too sharp, but more likely it appears that the clasp curves upward steeper than the relative flat underside of my wrist, digging into the flesh sometimes. Have you noticed any slight discomfort from the butterfly clasp in certain situations? Are the two clasps equally comfortable (disregarding the rest of the bracelet)?
Thanks for the comment. I have found the butterfly clasp to be quite comfortable. I'd say it's more comfortable than the folding clasp, as the one featured in the video is quite bulky in the 22mm version. The butterfly clasp is well designed. Best of luck!
The sizing is driving me crazy 🤦♂️ I have your exact wrist size (185mm / 7.25”) and I want this mesh bracelet for a Planet Ocean (52mm lug to lug) I’ve done the calculations and measured my existing strap but I’m still very confused about which one to get. Cause these calculations don’t factor-in the thickness of the case…
Totally agree. I bought a cheap mesh bracelet and I will never use it. It’s quite feminine and sadly I can’t give to my wife as she doesn’t have any 22mm watches. First world problem. Ha!
Ive been very skeptical of mesh bracelets for some odd reason i find them feminine over oyster bracelets.But this video gives me a little nudge to get one
Um, but the addition of the bracelet does not remove the brand from the face of the watch. I never see an aftermarket strap and think "fake watch." I see aftermarket strap and think "aftermarket strap."
@@DavesWatchLove You might think that but others don't. If my seamaster strap didn't have an Omega stamp then I'd know its not a genuine Omega strap or the watch is fake and I know plenty people who think the same
@@J.K.Barrik You are making no sense at all. Fake one would obviously have the stamp to look genuine, or else it would be a very bad fake anyway. Using only "original" straps severely limits your options too and makes your watch look like everyone else's. I use Staib only to replace poor quality metal straps or leather bands though, I probably wouldn't replace a nice metal strap.
Tomasina Covell - yep. I'm a still photographer, not much of a videographer. But let's just say, it's the last time I use AWB. Got some learning to do in Premiere Pro as well.
Glad you made this review! If been looking at Staib for a while now and I'm happy to hear the quality is there. Have a nice weekend Dave:)
Thanks for the great review. This helped me choose the right size of the Staib mesh and probably saved me a lot of time.
I have breitling superocean heritage 2 and I can say it has the best bracelet ever. Even better than my submariner oyster bracelet. It's such a underrated watch. If you are into mesh bracelet, please give it a try, you won't regret.
The Superocean Heritage 2 is near the top of my list. Such a great looking piece.
That’s the watch that got me interested in mesh bracelets. I like Breitling in general. I have a chrono Avenger.
The SOH II chrono was on my list until I saw it at the AD with a scratched bezel on display. I was shocked to be honest. It was the first time for me to see a ceramic bezel with such a visible scratch, on what’s supposed to be a new watch nonetheless.
Have you had any issues with scratches on the ceramic insert of the bezel?
@@DavesWatchLove I picked up a Breitling super ocean ii on the rubber strap. Great deal on it. Picked up the Staib from LIW and looks fantastic. Think Staib make them for Breitling. Good to have options
the best mesh bracelet review i've seen - good to know where to find the very best
Thanks Mate, One of the best honest reviews for Staib, pushed me over the edge to get the staib for my hamilton 22mm khaki chrono. Subscribed.
A great mesh watch band review. I've been looking at the STAIB bands after hunting all over the net, and must admit, this is the must have mesh band if you have a valued time piece.
Staib 2784 for my Seamaster!
That Christopher Ward in ceramic looks so nice
Excellent video, really appreciate the detailed review. I will be purchasing the Staib High polished Butterfly clasp mesh bracelet for my new SEIKO SKX 007J on my 7.25 inch wrist. Thank you!
Very helpful buying guide. I have a very thin mesh bracelet on a Mido and it's so comfortable I forget I'm wearing it.
A thorough review and very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks, really been wanting to see a good review of Staib mesh!!
Nice review! However, one advantage of the less expensive models in your review is the relative range and ease of size adjustability. Right from the start, the wrap-around type of mesh bracelet will fit a wide range of wrist sizes with near infinite adjustability, and because of the clasp design, the fit can be resized almost on the fly (all that is needed is a paper clip and about 2 seconds) at any time during the day. The clasp on the Milanaise-style bracelet I have is also very secure, and much more discreet than the monster clasp on the STAIB model.
Thanks for the review...I have that Trident & feel your pain. That thing is a bear to swap straps on but I still love the watch
Excellent video! Dare I say that the STAIB bracelets are as good as the ones that come with the Brietling Super Ocean Heritage!!
I saw the Heritage bracelet live in the flesh yesterday, and it's not as hefty as the Staib. The Staib is much more significant in the hand. But the Heritage bracelet is more tightly woven and has a bit of a dressier and flashier (Breitling!) look to it. But yes, Staib is an excellent replacement for MUCH less money and certainly an equal in quality.
Thanks Dave. As I'm ordering the Christopher Ward and also have an lovely Orient Ray I decided to get this gorgeous Staib bracelet. I'm wondering if the newest version of the Christopher Ward will require me to slightly bend the pins! There is also a newer version of the strap!
Isn’t Staib the supplier for Breitling’s mesh bracelets?
Love your collection of watches... we have very similar tastes. You owning a Christopher Ward makes me think you have real taste; because YOU know what you like and don't rely on others telling you what you should like.
Such a helpful video. Thank you very much!
Great review Dave! Cheers!
This video pulled the trigger for me! I'm gonna go with a mesh for my Alpinist.
It's a bit of an investment, but it's a good one. Mine work on a number of my watches for a fresh look.
Thanks! Great input! I’ve been scoping out these bracelets and a Ward Trident so this was great
ill be honest, i got a $15 Chinese knockoff version of the butterfly clasp one, and it was beautiful with exceptional quality. I sold it with a watch so not sure how long it wouldve help up but im sure these are so much better.
What's the case size of your AT?
This is the 41mm case.
So much great info! Thank you for making this ❤️
great video good and honest it sounds as though you know what you are talking about . thankyou Dave
Steve … Well Done … I have been Exploring a Milanese Bracelet of Quality for my Rolex Submariner … your presentation lead me to "Staib" …. my thanks …. and so it goes ….
It's a little bit of an investment, but I think you'll be pleased.
Thanks for the vid, really want to try one.
Hi Robert, I just got the limited edition blue dial Sinn104 and I’m here watching reviews for Staib mesh. Just wanna say that I’m a big fan of your channel.
Awesome video! I own a 1st gen (2500 movement) Omega PO XL (45.5mm) and I want to get a Staib mesh bracelet. I think my model uses the 22mm version. Lug to lug is about 47-48mm and my wrist is around 7 inches (give or take a quarter). I think I'll be fine with the medium lenght 150mm version, but I'm still debating on the butterfly vs diver clasp... Which one do you recommend? I'm also going with the Matte version (less shiny version).
This is really a great review. Does this STAIB mesh bracelet fit well with Omega Speedmaster. I am thinking to purchase this one for my Omega SMP 3861. My wrist is about 7”. Do you think that either 130 or 150 mm should be fine for my wrist?
Hello, i have 7inch, which size you suggest to buy? (15 or 17?) My watch is omega speedmaster diver 300. Please help
Thanks
The 130-150mm is what I have, and it works on my 7.25" wrist, so I think you'd be fine with the 15cm.
Excellent review!
Great video! I'm looking for a 26mm. Diver.
Fantastic video ! Thank you so much. I thinking to buy mesh with the butterfly clasp. My wrist is 7 inches ( 180 mm ) and My Omega 300 Dive is 50mm lug to lug so I should get 150 mm bracelet. Correct?
I wear the 130-150 one on my Omega SMP 300 and have a number of links to spare, so you should be good with that size. Enjoy!
Thanks for your informative vid. Staib is such a wonderful brand. Have you ever seen a tapering in width mesh band?
I believe Staib ones do but at the 22mm. Their 20mm ones are flat cut though sadly. Maybe that’s the vintage way?
On Omega a shark mesh is kinda mandatory. A high end watch deserves a great bracelet
Agreed. Back when I made this video, mesh on an Omega Seamster professional was unheard of and considered bad taste. Glad to see that has changed.
@@DavesWatchLove Lets thank 007 for the good example.
Hi Dave, great review and demo! How have the polished finish of the bands stood up to scratches and wear over the past 2 years?
The clasp on the 22mm bracelet has some normal wear on it, but the bracelets themselves look as good as they day I bought them. The quality really holds up.
Excellent video
Breitling mesh is king but STAIB is a solid #2 option.
Really useful viewpoint, I’ve been wondering about how high a step up I should take over the entry level eBay ones. Do you know or have a view on Vollmer (also German)? Thanks.
Great video, thanks. Sizing on these is so tricky. Would you say that the sports clasp model fits you, in that medium size? At the end it looks a bit snugger than I wear, but you have a couple of pin holes left for adjustment.
My wrist currently measures at 7”, but weather etc can alter fit. As you said the fear is that the size up would be slightly too large.
If you have a 7" wrist, definitely go with the medium. There will be plenty of room left. Remember too that on watches with longer lug to lug, you'll get even more room. I put the 22mm on my SKX recently for the first time, and I had to tighten up the bracelet.
Thanks a lot for the help. You definitely make sense. I want to get one for a watch that’s even larger at 53mm lug to lug, so it just makes sense to go medium, in that case. I do hope there’s going to be clearance from the case, though. It’s a Christopher Ward, also.
@@DavesWatchLove Hi Dave! Thanks for the video, I've watched this at least a million times trying to decide the size I'm going to order as it will be a gift...
I'm a bit confused about your comment here, isn't the C60's lug-to-lug bigger than that of an SKX? Still you had to tighten up the bracelet?
I'm really torn between the 150/170 in 22mm... This will be paired with a vintage 6306 Turtle (~45mm LtL) and the recipient does sport some pretty hefty wrists. I know a watch with a butterfly clasp bracelet with an inner diameter of approx. 205mm in total fits him OK/a bit loose, so that's my reference...
Any help/guesses are appreciated, thanks!
great Vid thank you Dave
Great video! Which staib do you recommend for tissot visodate?
Definitely the 20mm one in the video description. BUT, you could probably get away with something cheaper than this, as it might be just a bit thick for the Visodate. Look for my video review of the Visodate. And look in the description for the Strapcode bracelet I used. I was very pleased with that $40 solution on the Visodate.
Would you reccomend the 2784 or 2792 for a Breitling Superocean Heritage 42 ?
I bought mine on a rubber strap with a deployant clasp and while i like the clasp i regretted not getting the bracelet straight away.
And apparently Staib maked Breitlings bracelets anyway.
I wear the 2792 with my Omega Seamaster 300. It's the more elegant of the two and would look great on the Breitling. If you want something a little thicker and heavier and more aggressive for your dive watch, a 20mm version of the 2784 would be a possibility. The two bracelets actually feel quite different. The extra millimeter of thickness makes a difference.
Hi Dave, loved the video! Couple of quick questions for you: out of the two styles, butterfly and sport strap, which one do you find more comfortable on your wrist? Does the weight of the 4.1mm bracelet feel overwhelming or too much? I am planning on putting the 4.1mm one on my green SMP 300 which is my daily driver so to speak. I love the bulkier/meatier look of the 4.1mm bracelet but not at the expense of comfort. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks!
I have an SMP 300 and wear it often on the thinner butterfly bracelet. It looks nice and well balanced, but also more streamlined. Great for business attire. If you want a beefier look, the 4.1mm would give the watch more heft and presence. Comfort is similar, but the clasp is quite bulky. Not uncomfortable, but the clasp is definitely very thick on the wrist. if you don't mind that, I think you'd like it. Best of luck!
@@DavesWatchLove thanks for the feedback Dave! Good to know its not uncomfortable per say. The only other issue ive seen people have is that the end of the thicker 4.1mm bracelet rubs against the casing of the SMP 300 which is not good lol. Although, they say that you can use thinner spring bars to take care of that though so hopefully that works for me. Here's hoping. Thanks again Dave!
Came by curiosity staying for/because of quality. SUB!
Thank you for the in depth review. I have a new Seamaster 300M Black and I wanted to get the highest quality mesh bracelet. Do you know if this is as good as it gets? I'm concerned that the polish wont be deep, rich and luxurious enough to match the casing of the Seamaster. Is this the case or will it work? I frankly wouldn't mind spending more since I'm trying to obtain similar quality to what's offered by the Breitling Supercean mesh. We all know that's as good as it gets but I'm sure that's 1000+ OEM bracelet.
I've tried on the Breitling Superocean mesh, and man, was it shiny and blingy (which I really liked). I can't say the Staib bracelets are as high polished as that, but you definitely feel the quality and the shine on the polished editions are still good. I'd say yes, it's about as good as it gets in third party mesh.
amazingly useful vid thank you
Hi Dave, with the new CW 40mm available to purchase, which thickness do you think would look nicer on it? Cheers
I think even with a smaller dive watch, a thicker mesh is better. I imagine the lug width has moved from 22mm to 20mm. The 20mm Staib mesh bracelets are less bulky and would look great on a 40mm CW. I wear my 20mm Staib on my 41mm Omega Seamaster Professional and it's a perfect match.
I am looking to buy Staib bracelet with butterfly clasp. I have the same size wrist as you and can't decide on the size 150 vs 170. How did an extra link that you bought from Amazon work for you? Can you please comment on it and give a link to it? Are you happy with this bracelet after having it for years? Thanks!
The 150mm has worked out well for me. It's been a great investment. The extra link made it fit perfectly on smaller watches.
holbensfinewatchbands.com/products/staib-3792-polished-link?variant=16232437612655
@@DavesWatchLove Thanks for your response. I just received 150mm bracelet today and it is also tight on my wrist. My reasoning for ordering 150mm vs 170mm was that I would need to remove 3 links from 170mm bracelet and that would make the clasp look too short. I like the look of the longer clasp and decided that I would rather buy an extra link to extend 150mm. What do you think, did an extra link (#9) in your case make the clasp too long and somewhat break the design?
Also appreciate going into detail about the issue with the thicker mesh straps rubbing against the case and having to bend the spring bars to fit
I bought the 4.5 mm thick 150mm and the buckle is way to big do you know of a smaller buckle so I can have more mesh?
STAIB is by far the best in mesh.
There are 3 sizes (short / regular / long) get the long one so you can resize it by removing the links. You have 4 links to adjust so get the long one for a peice of mind especially for 7" wrists
Thank you for this review! My wrist is also 185mm and I just ordered a 170mm milanese from watchgecko for my 47mm lug to lug watch. Glad I didn't go with the 150mm bracelet. Hope it works out 🤞
Fingers crossed! Let us know!
@@DavesWatchLove My mesh bracelet came in and the 170mm was definitely the right choice! I removed 3 links and it fits perfectly.
My Staib came in today … Mine is the one on your CW … mine does not have Germany inscribed on the clasp ? … purchased from Island watch? should I be concerned?
caspersea - That's interesting. I doubt there's a real concern, but it might be worth a call to Long Island Watch to ask if the latest editions lack the Germany name on the clasp. But if it feels super solid, you've got the real deal!
caspersea I believe the mesh is now manufactured elsewhere (you know) but still to Staib tolerances and assembled and finished in Germany. Doubt you'll have any issues but let us know!
Should I get a Speedmaster or Aqua Terra?
I'd say the Speedmaster if you want a classic icon. I'd say an Aqua Terra of you need a more versatile, everyday watch.
Seamaster. :)
Remember, wrists swell and if you dont have a few options it may at times be very tight. Also, no divers extention to open to cover a wetsuite. As an engineer id be concerned about arcing any pins. The quality of this brand is worth the price. They even have notches on the pin cylinder to remove the pins ez.
Looking to slap one of these on my 20mm seamaster 300m, would you say polished or satin finish for that since original bracelet is mixed?
I like the look of the polished bracelet on mine. Hard to beat!
Dave, can you do a State of the Collection video and discuss watches you are considering to purchase in the future?
Shipmate - I keep thinking I should do that. The collection is on the slim side right now. I'm trying to keep it tight. But yes. Someday soon I hope.
You should. It would also show you don't need a large watch collection to be happy. Still can't believe you sold the Marathon. I want to buy one, but their prices have increased too much the past two years.
Hi Dave. Thanks for the outstanding review and the tip which saved me from (1) erroneous length issues and (2) buying the wrong mesh bracelets. Happy thanksgiving!
I am planning to purchase the same 22mm lugged, 4.9mm thick staib bracelet for a Tudor Smiley 79220R. The BB has some strap and bracelet challenges as the lug holes are situated a bit lower and far from the case. Just wanted to seek your help and advise on the thickness of the 22mm bracelet ends, can you share its measurement please? This may sort out the gap size between the case and bracelet lug ends. However Im a bit worried that it may protrude on the front side of the watch when worn on the wrist.
I really hope you could help me out. I'm planning to purchase the matte version. I'm just really concerned that it might not work with my BB and the cost would be quite huge to bear for a bracelet fail. Thanks in advance.
Beautiful.
Love these bracelets on my watches. Highly recommend.
Squale make great ones also that are cheaper than staib but obviuosly they write the brand name on there.
Which Staib bracelet is better for Sinn 104 ?
The 20mm Staib in this video would look great on the 104.
@@DavesWatchLove Thank you! Great video !
If you suffer from insomnia… this is the review for you! Cut to 8:30 to make this worthwhile.
$200 is a bit steep. However it would be a good match for my Stowa Marine Original.
Hope it’s no bother, but I have another question. With the config you had with the 22 in this video, could you fit a finger inside the band comfortably? I tend to wear it so there’s a little bit of movement.
I can put a finger between my wrist and band, but it's tight, if that helps. With a 7" wrist, you could wear it pretty loose, I think.
Dave's Watch Love thanks so much for
that feedback. I guess if you let it out that final notch it would have been a bit roomier, too, by maybe 2-3mm? Is for a larger watch even, at 53mm, I should probably just relax, but it’s not a cheap band.
I'm looking to put 20mm on my 42mm speedy professional, I have 7.4 inch wrist, should I get the 150mm or 170mm mesh?
Wow, that's a close one. My Speedy is the 44mm and the 150mm fits well on my 7.25 inch wrist. But with the slightly shorter lug-to-lug on the 42mm, it would be close. Since you're closer to a 7 and a half inch wrist, then the 170 would probably be the best bet. You'd might have to remove most of the extra links. With the 150mm, you can always get extra links for about $17 each. Just know that with Long Island Watch, they won't take it back unless all the original wrapping is on it. So that will all be off before you know if it fits. :-/ It's a shame there's not a little bit of overlap on the two sizes.
do you know the thickness of breitling mesh? is it greater/or less than 4 mm
I thought it was time to check out your channel.
I have a question regarding the butterfly clasp.
About 3 years ago I bought a mesh bracelet from Watchgecko that looks practically identical to the one attached to your Aqua Terra (it says "Geckota" on the clasp; I don't know who made it). I found the butterfly clasp to be a bit uncomfortable. Either some of the edges are too sharp, but more likely it appears that the clasp curves upward steeper than the relative flat underside of my wrist, digging into the flesh sometimes.
Have you noticed any slight discomfort from the butterfly clasp in certain situations? Are the two clasps equally comfortable (disregarding the rest of the bracelet)?
Thanks for the comment. I have found the butterfly clasp to be quite comfortable. I'd say it's more comfortable than the folding clasp, as the one featured in the video is quite bulky in the 22mm version. The butterfly clasp is well designed. Best of luck!
The sizing is driving me crazy 🤦♂️
I have your exact wrist size (185mm / 7.25”) and I want this mesh bracelet for a Planet Ocean (52mm lug to lug)
I’ve done the calculations and measured my existing strap but I’m still very confused about which one to get. Cause these calculations don’t factor-in the thickness of the case…
Totally agree. I bought a cheap mesh bracelet and I will never use it. It’s quite feminine and sadly I can’t give to my wife as she doesn’t have any 22mm watches.
First world problem. Ha!
Ive been very skeptical of mesh bracelets for some odd reason i find them feminine over oyster bracelets.But this video gives me a little nudge to get one
What if my watch is 23mm?
excellent
A couple years late, but here's the native German you needed to tell you how to pronounce Staib.
It's "shtibe", rhyming with "vibe".
You're welcome.
I've had it wrong for a long time! :)
Its. good Mesh but I can't waste 200 for a bracelet on a watch that cost me 200 I can handle a little weaker clasp
frustrating when reviewers shake their watches as they talk. no one ever uses pointing devices over trying to point at thing when a thumb.
"schtibe"
Yes but the bracelets DON'T have the watch brand stamp on them! Makes the watch look fake
Um, but the addition of the bracelet does not remove the brand from the face of the watch. I never see an aftermarket strap and think "fake watch." I see aftermarket strap and think "aftermarket strap."
@@DavesWatchLove
You might think that but others don't. If my seamaster strap didn't have an Omega stamp then I'd know its not a genuine Omega strap or the watch is fake and I know plenty people who think the same
@@J.K.Barrik You are making no sense at all. Fake one would obviously have the stamp to look genuine, or else it would be a very bad fake anyway. Using only "original" straps severely limits your options too and makes your watch look like everyone else's. I use Staib only to replace poor quality metal straps or leather bands though, I probably wouldn't replace a nice metal strap.
no taper, no on the fly adjustment, no removable links. Literally what's the point lmao
Great video, perhaps you could wear gloves next time to cover up your unfortunate hands?
You white-balance is too far off.
Tomasina Covell - yep. I'm a still photographer, not much of a videographer. But let's just say, it's the last time I use AWB. Got some learning to do in Premiere Pro as well.