How to Write Cosmic Horror (Writing Advice)

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  • Learn how to write Cosmic Horror (Lovecraftian Horror) with examples from The Thing, The Mist, Color Out of Space, and more!
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  • @AryaCyrus
    @AryaCyrus 8 місяців тому +177

    So glad to find somebody else saying themes first, monsters second. People don't get it that all the fantasy elements in cosmic horror are merely the surface story. The horror itself is philosophical. If I may add a point to your great video essay, all immortal stories are like that. From Odyssey to Game of Thrones, themes first is the key to immortality.

    • @ihavespoken9871
      @ihavespoken9871 8 місяців тому +14

      And that applies to writing in general, not just horror. It’s just like what LocalScriptWriter always says when writing characters: “Purpose first, personality second.”

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 7 місяців тому +6

      1. Rejection of anthropocentrism!
      2. Unknown or unknowable information.
      3. Human insanity or psychological frailty.
      4. Powerful but indifferent/evil supernatural entities.

  • @madmartigan21
    @madmartigan21 8 місяців тому +91

    Minor correction because people get this wrong all the time. Seeing the monster in Bird Box doesn't automatically kill you. It makes you have this uncontrollable urge to kill yourself. In a few people that it doesn't give that urge to it makes them want to kill anyone who's still alive. That's much more terrifying.

  • @LordBaktor
    @LordBaktor 8 місяців тому +88

    I'm a sucker for cosmic horror. Some people say serial killers and stuff that could happen in real life is scarier, but I love the existential dread of a good Lovecraftian story.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +12

      Yep, the unpredictability of Cosmic Horror makes it special.

    • @christinacath4816
      @christinacath4816 6 місяців тому +1

      But if monsters existed, it would be much worse. Because we don't know what to expect from them.

  • @Mark-in8ju
    @Mark-in8ju 7 місяців тому +11

    1. Rejection of anthropocentrism!
    2. Unknown or unknowable information.
    3. Human insanity or psychological frailty.
    4. Powerful but indifferent/evil supernatural entities.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 8 місяців тому +39

    the Doctor Who episode Midnight is a great example of cosmic horror as it captures a great sense of claustrophobia onboard the shuttle and the fact that doctor does not know what the unseen threat is really amps up the fear factor

  • @stratoplayer1988
    @stratoplayer1988 8 місяців тому +27

    The video game Bloodborne is an excellent example of the Forbidden Knowledge trope of cosmic horror. A church creates cures from the blood of cosmic entities that they have little knowledge of. Although the cures work, they slowly begin to mutate those who received them and the whole city begins to fall apart into madness as the townsfolk start attacking one another and become monsters themselves whether they realize or not.

    • @anarky1765
      @anarky1765 3 місяці тому

      Another example is that when you start a New Game +, your Insight from the first playthrough carries over, meaning new enemies that weren’t there the first time are now present, and creatures you thought didn’t manifest until later in the game are revealed to have always been there, invisible to your blissfully ignorant mind.

    • @bj71000
      @bj71000 3 місяці тому

      This is why Bloodborne is my favorite souls game

  • @ShinGallon
    @ShinGallon 8 місяців тому +14

    I'd say that Stephen King's IT definitely counts as cosmic horror, considering what Pennywise really is (in the book at least, not the movies, neither of which quite nail it) and that's probably my favorite. I reread that book about once every 5-6 years and having first read it when I was 10 (the approximate age the characters are in the 1958 sequences) and again when I was 40 (around their age in 1985) definitely gave me new appreciation for a lot of the themes in the book.
    The Thing is one of my absolute favorite movies. It's a masterclass in atmosphere and mood, the story is tight, the acting sublime, and the effects nearly flawless. I watch it at least once every October, sometimes more.
    The Mist is another good novella by King, and the film proves what I've long maintained (that Frank Darabont should be the only person allowed to adapt King's work into film). The new ending the film has surpasses the original story in my opinion.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, it's been forever since I read IT, but I think it fits the bill, especially considering Pennywise's cosmic origin.
      I love both endings of The Mist. The movie version unquestionably has more impact, but there's something chilling about the "What do we possibly do now?" note that the novella ends on.

    • @RainisaurusRox
      @RainisaurusRox 8 місяців тому +2

      Wouldn't call It cosmic horror.
      The creature itself, yes, but the story is more a classic horrorstory. The feel, the theme, the plot. It answers way more questions than it leaves unanswered. You can easily escape by just leaving town, it has a very happy ending...
      And like often the true horror comes with the people, It doesn't really do much compared to what people do to eachother.

  • @snowdogthewolf
    @snowdogthewolf 8 місяців тому +22

    Thank you for choosing The Thing as an example for writing advice! As you may have suspected from my avatar, I'm quite the fan. It's my all-time favorite movie of any genre, period. I saw it in a drive-in, sitting on the roof of our station wagon along with my sister (ages 6 and 8, respectively), listening to our parents argue from down below (my dad told my mother it was a Disney movie like ET, just so he could see it in theaters, LOL).

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +5

      Hahah what a great story--your dad was a hero that day

    • @j-rey-
      @j-rey- 8 місяців тому +1

      I love your dad. My dad would just sneak me into R rated movies without even telling my mom. And we both turned out fine, right?
      Right?...

  • @robertpetrovich6776
    @robertpetrovich6776 8 місяців тому +5

    Steven King once said (in reference to lovecraft) "Nothing you put outside the door is ever as scary as the scatching at the door"

  • @HabkeineAngst
    @HabkeineAngst 8 місяців тому +9

    Bloodborne's lore and world was truly inspirational for me to create a story.

  • @stefmoneythebigfella7156
    @stefmoneythebigfella7156 7 місяців тому +4

    I think Dead Space is the perfect example. It checks all boxes

  • @dreamermj
    @dreamermj 8 місяців тому +20

    Not seen the mist yet (tried to avoid the spoilers) but Carpenter's version of the Thing was always amazing due to the creativeness of the creature and just how unique the atmosphere and setting was.

  • @tylerjames7449
    @tylerjames7449 8 місяців тому +6

    “Event Horizon” goes well with this genre discussion

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому

      Yeah, I wanted to include EH but I haven't watched it in ages. Definitely need to give it a rewatch one of these days

  • @doormatt72
    @doormatt72 6 місяців тому +2

    My favorite cosmic horror movie is cabin in the woods. That was a very cleverly written movie. I loved it.

  • @pferdebert
    @pferdebert 8 місяців тому +10

    "The Empty Man" is fantastic is fantastic. I think it was mismarketed as the trailer makes the impression that this is a teen slasher but actually it is a cosmic horror gem.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +1

      Loved it. The movie feels like a blend of Shutter Island, Blade Runner, and the Silent Hill games. I was gripped all the way through

  • @t.j.aarons889
    @t.j.aarons889 8 місяців тому +16

    My favorite cosmic horror story is "In the mouth of maddness" (SPOILERS) one of my favorite stories to talk about because there is just so much to unpack. The very end John Trent goes into a theater and sits down to watch...the movie we just watched that shows everything that has happened to him throughout the movie. It is also spliced in a certen way where in the movie he is witching he screams "THIS IS NOT REALITY! NOT REALITY! this is reality." As the character who is a big skeptic has watched reality completely warp around him while watching a movie about his own disent into maddness.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +11

      I have to ask... Do you read Sutter Cane?

    • @t.j.aarons889
      @t.j.aarons889 8 місяців тому +3

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty This brings me joy because this is the exact comment I expected.

    • @vodniczech
      @vodniczech 7 місяців тому

      My god, this movie is BANGER in the Lovecraftians movies

  • @dyingember8661
    @dyingember8661 8 місяців тому +14

    I think the key factor is DEFINITELY not to explain too much about the threat the protagonists encounter (the protagonists can even defeat them in the story in a way, but it must not be done in an easy way), or else it just loses the flavor completely and utterly to the point it doesn't "deserve" to be called cosmic horror anymore.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +4

      Yep, the alien should remain alien. The mystery shouldn't end along with the story

    • @dyingember8661
      @dyingember8661 8 місяців тому

      It's just so sad that most people just want results and sometimes all they want is the results, so the narrative, the story, all the good stuff just have to make way of it, and even sad thing is that those people didn't really care about the results as well, they see it, they happy, and they just leave, left all those who cared about the things that can only hold up together by mystery in pain...@@WriterBrandonMcNulty

  • @errantwinds-up8uu
    @errantwinds-up8uu 8 місяців тому +8

    My favourite cosmic horror is actually the console game Eternal Darkness (Sanity's Requiem). It's pretty old now but the way it introduces the cosmic horror slowly through Alex's experience in her uncle's old mansion, going through the generations of forbidden knowledge... the creepy visuals, the expanding concepts... ah man, it's amazing. Heavily Lovecraftian in a good way.

    • @nonsequiturm
      @nonsequiturm 8 місяців тому +2

      If anyone plays the GameCube game due to this recommendation, in the beginning of the game you have to make s choice. Choose green for the best experience.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +3

      Phenomenal game, although I never finished it because I got stuck around midway through (it might've been after one of the Spanish Inquisition sections). I really need to give EDSR another shot one of these days

  • @romainpapelier9457
    @romainpapelier9457 8 місяців тому +2

    Event Horizon is a great cosmic horror movie in my opinion.

  • @GeneralPenguinIsCool
    @GeneralPenguinIsCool 8 місяців тому +6

    Can we get a video on the ways to write and foreshadow twist villains?

  • @SuceavaHoodInv
    @SuceavaHoodInv 8 місяців тому +6

    your writing advice videos were really helpful for my writing! But one subject that I'm really interested in knowing more is ensemble casts, being casts with more than two protagonists.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +2

      Someone else requested a video on character chemistry, so I'll be covering this topic soon

  • @Noodlekdoodle
    @Noodlekdoodle 8 місяців тому +4

    Wasn't expecting a video on such a niche subject, but I'm excited nonetheless!

  • @pearlsforswine4261
    @pearlsforswine4261 8 місяців тому +8

    Alien! The Thing is a close second, and I still think about Annihilation years after watching it.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому

      Alien and The Thing are titans of the horror genre. Love them.

  • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
    @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +6

    What's your favorite Cosmic Horror story? Let us know!

    • @jacindaellison3363
      @jacindaellison3363 8 місяців тому +3

      I have two: The Endless and Annihilation.

    • @brianedwards7142
      @brianedwards7142 8 місяців тому +4

      Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I prefer the 1956 version but the ending is maybe too hopeful to qualify it as you have defined it.

    • @madmartigan21
      @madmartigan21 8 місяців тому

      ​@@brianedwards7142that version and the first remake in the seventies are both great. The 70's version has that ending he's talking about.

    • @RainisaurusRox
      @RainisaurusRox 8 місяців тому

      I just love The thing on the doorstep by Lovecraft.
      Would recommend to read a few of the other books first thou, knowing a little bit about the mythos, the different dimensions, times and stuff makes it even better. That stuff gets only hinted in this story. It focuses more on the characters and their situation.
      It just begins with the greatest hook I ever came across, in the very first paragraph. In my opinion, on of the best beginnings ever.
      " It is true that I have sent six bullets through the head of my best friend, and yet I hope to show by this statement that I am not his murderer."

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +2

      I love both versions of Body Snatchers. The 50s version holds up remarkably well. I watched it for the first time in the 2010s and couldn't believe how gripping it was.

  • @thomassynths
    @thomassynths 8 місяців тому +1

    My favorite is Lovecraft's "The Festival". Quite short but really exemplifies his style.

  • @sackettsnodgrass9260
    @sackettsnodgrass9260 5 місяців тому

    I’ve been a longtime admirer of H.P. Lovecraft, and his work inspired me to write within the genre. I’m beginning to outline the plot of a book I’ve been putting off for years, done in epistolary form (which is similar to Lovecraft’s form) through the use of journal entries and letters.

  • @user-ff4se5vf2n
    @user-ff4se5vf2n 8 місяців тому +1

    My favourite cosmic horror story is the original Dunwich Horror by Lovecraft. An oldie, but it's a classic...

    • @dionmcgee5610
      @dionmcgee5610 8 місяців тому

      ALL of Lovecraft's stories are oldies, if not all of them are classics. The Dream quest of Unknown Kadath is certainly an oldie and it should be a classic but it's still too obscure.

  • @miguelthedrawtist
    @miguelthedrawtist 8 місяців тому +1

    _The Dunwich Horror_ is my favourite. It's the first Lovecraft story I read and was like "yeah, this really is kinda creepy"
    _At The Mountains of Madness_ is pretty cool too

  • @CatAtomic99
    @CatAtomic99 8 місяців тому +1

    My favorite Cosmic Horror story is Roadside Picnic. Its not so strictly horror, but I feel like it captures the feeling of human irrelevance better than anything else I've read.

  • @LordPhantom777
    @LordPhantom777 7 місяців тому

    Your channel really touches on things no other channel will. Love it. I’d love to know how to write vampire fiction next

  • @keith0363
    @keith0363 Місяць тому

    My favorite cosmic horror stories are my own. I love my writing. I’m a huge fan of the novel 14 by Peter Clines. Its sequels are quite good, too. My go-to Lovecraft works include f "The Colour Out of Space", "Shadow over Innsmouth" and "At the Mountains of Madness" and the vignette "Dagon". Movies include the 1959s'original THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD, THE MIST, EUROPA REPORT, the HPLHS version of "Call of Cthulhu". I also love IT by Stephen King and his short story "Crouch End", and the "John Dies at the End" series by Wong.

  • @petehealy9819
    @petehealy9819 8 місяців тому +3

    Brandon, once again your insights are so on-point and concise it blows me away. Cosmic Horror is not even a sub-genre I like all that much, but now I understand and appreciate it a lot more thanks to your analysis and advice.

  • @bramderacourt9499
    @bramderacourt9499 5 місяців тому +1

    Uzumaki is probably the most effective cosmic horror story I've read, for the simple reason that, by the last few chapters, it really didn't matter what the protagonists did; they were screwed either way. You spiral down with them because you just want some semblance of an answern

  • @dibdap2373
    @dibdap2373 6 місяців тому

    I loved the King in Yellow. It's a precursor to Lovecraft and contains more of the type of cosmic horror in the category of forbidden knowledge and cults. There a four short stories only connected by a strange play called the King in Yellow which seems to instill madness in whoever reads it.

  • @pyromancysfinest
    @pyromancysfinest 24 дні тому

    I really liked John Langan's The Fisherman, I think it toes the line between neutral and negative, where the protagonist survives, and humanity maybe doomed but its left as an unknown.

  • @doom_punpun
    @doom_punpun 8 місяців тому +3

    Man I have been watching you quite some time you have helped me a lot .Thank you!

  • @kasieream1248
    @kasieream1248 8 місяців тому +1

    You should probably do one on the difference between science fiction , science fantasy and fantasy

  • @dreademperor2094
    @dreademperor2094 8 місяців тому

    This video was really helpful for me as I'm trying to make cosmic horror stories myself

  • @Jedi3039
    @Jedi3039 8 місяців тому +3

    A perfect topic for a story I'm currently writing. Really appreciate this breakdown, Brandon. Thanks! 🙌🙌

  • @TheBluenyt09
    @TheBluenyt09 7 місяців тому

    Awzum. I'm writing a story along the lines of cosmic horror too. Thanks this helps a lot 😎👍

  • @freakkyser
    @freakkyser 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video, i very much appreciate the tips, im attempting to write a story about the moon and twisting, leaving this idea that it has a strangle hold on hummanity because we need it to survive
    My biggest hurdle is connecting character to story, and the isolation bit will help with it

  • @roguetheoutlander8800
    @roguetheoutlander8800 8 місяців тому +3

    Lucky me, like i just asked for it xd (literally i was thinking about something like that)

  • @ayyubi1235
    @ayyubi1235 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the advice bro.

  • @R.L.Sutton
    @R.L.Sutton 8 місяців тому +3

    Great job. Thank you for unpacking the concept.

    • @eliben4066
      @eliben4066 8 місяців тому +1

      I love your initials! Especially for this Halloween themed episode

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +1

      Glad it helped! Thanks for watching

  • @UncleFexxer
    @UncleFexxer 8 місяців тому +1

    I love cosmic horror (usually through writing, not so much in media since they usually don't do it so well.) But Carpenter's The Thing is awesome. After all that tension and suspicion, they leave you with the idea that... "Well... humanity just might be completely fucked. Sleep tight."

  • @erinaltstadt4234
    @erinaltstadt4234 7 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @marvelfanatic9535
    @marvelfanatic9535 11 днів тому

    Strangee Things is a good example of this!!

  • @homoduplex
    @homoduplex 8 місяців тому +1

    Honorable Mention: the movie "Event Horizon". Really ticks all the boxes. I would love to see some kind of director's cut made, but sadly, the material has been lost, so it won't happen. I feel the movie does a lot of things right and has great potential, but the released version lacks emotional punch somehow. Mabye it's the lack of a protagonist with motivations to relate to.

  • @brozy5720
    @brozy5720 8 місяців тому

    Fav CH story for me would be the classic Night at the bare mountain by Lovecraft.

  • @Brdatsun
    @Brdatsun 8 місяців тому

    The Thing 1982 is my favorite by FAR ❤

  • @TheManBehindtheScreen
    @TheManBehindtheScreen 8 місяців тому +1

    My favorite cosmic horror story comes from a man who was a known friend of H. P. Lovecraft, but wasn't typically a cosmic horror writer:
    The Tower of the Elephant, by Robert E. Howard. Yes, my favorite cosmic horror story is a Conan adventure, and I'm not going to say why because I don't want to spoil it.

  • @MySerpentine
    @MySerpentine Місяць тому

    I always wondered if they could've talked to the Thing if they tried. It fits the theme of paranoia if the fear was the real problem all along.

  • @SuspendedLogic
    @SuspendedLogic 8 місяців тому +12

    You should discuss everything the original Alien did right as a cosmic horror and then everything Alien Covenant did wrong to ruin the cosmic horror.

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor 8 місяців тому +10

      Covenant explained the origin of the Xenomorphs. There's no greater sin in cosmic horror.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +10

      Covenant was brutal to watch. It's The Last Jedi of the Alien franchise

    • @RainisaurusRox
      @RainisaurusRox 8 місяців тому +2

      What is alien covenant? 😅

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor 8 місяців тому +6

      @@RainisaurusRox Some fanfic written by a goat or something.

    • @SuspendedLogic
      @SuspendedLogic 8 місяців тому +2

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty big time agree.

  • @greg_nk
    @greg_nk 8 місяців тому

    My favorite has to be the Mist (the movie), mostly because of the ending.

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 8 місяців тому +1

    The Thing (or perhaps Alien) is my favorite cosmic horror story, because the best part about this movie is none of the characters, including the titular monster, are stupid. The Mist is an intense movie, not because of the monsters crawling around the titular mist as they actually behave like animals despite how they kill the humans, but it's because of the survivors turning against one another from religious extremism, establishing that humans are the real monsters. Color Out of Space is really scary. I haven't seen Bird Box, The Empty Man and Uzumaki.

  • @dai19721
    @dai19721 8 місяців тому +1

    oh wow this was really helpful...thank you.. fav cosmic horror story is black mass.

  • @Xobik1
    @Xobik1 8 місяців тому

    I Brandon. One suggestion: writing stories with a lot of timelines. What to do and what not to do.

  • @amaggixz
    @amaggixz 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the tips, I really would love to write some short stories and experiment a bit :P
    I love the Hanging Balloons story from Junji Ito. Also, saw a Dr Who comment, so may as well mention Weeping Angels, love the idea behind them ^^
    Edit: As for unexplained and creepy set up, Army of One, also from Ito, is a masterpiece in my opinion.

  • @MelchVagquest
    @MelchVagquest 8 місяців тому

    Annihilation is one of my more recent favorite movies that delves into the cosmic horror genre

  • @TheVeyZ
    @TheVeyZ Місяць тому

    My favorite cosmic horror story is At The Mountains of Madness.

  • @LarryThePhotoGuy
    @LarryThePhotoGuy 8 місяців тому

    David Graham's Down to a Sunless Sea (1979) The monster is nuclear war's aftermath; it is the descent into violence and madness that is the theme.

  • @Barbaric_The_Bizzare
    @Barbaric_The_Bizzare 8 місяців тому +2

    You should make a video of how to write body horror

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 8 місяців тому +1

    I saw when this was posted but had to wait to watch this because I was watching Kurt on TV. It was Bone Tomahawk so I broke my own "don't watch on TV what you have on DVD" rule but it beats repeats of Would I Lie To You from 6 years ago.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +1

      Bone Tomahawk was great. Wouldn't mind seeing more horror western

  • @R.senals_Arsenal
    @R.senals_Arsenal 8 місяців тому

    A lot of interest in this since "No One Can Save You" just came out, which I quite enjoyed.

  • @heruka369
    @heruka369 4 місяці тому

    My favorite is At The Mountains of Madness by Lovecraft

  • @anthonyquinn1808
    @anthonyquinn1808 8 місяців тому

    it's an interesting genre type! can you do a video about self aware horror?

  • @AlmostEthical
    @AlmostEthical 5 місяців тому

    I loved the cosmic horror shorts in the last season of Love, Death & Robots - Bad Travelling, Swarm and In Vaulted Halls Entombed. Now the writers have to think of something wild that doesn't involve an overpowering being which treats humans like ventriloquist dummies. Might the theme be about a dread of overwhelming societal and/or AI control?

  • @heavymetalsalsa9003
    @heavymetalsalsa9003 8 місяців тому

    Have any advice on changing POVs between the protagonist and antagonist, like in No Country for Old Men.

  • @DMKarinZeeland
    @DMKarinZeeland 8 місяців тому

    Somehow I can't add the video's to my playlists anymore. Which is a pity, being a cosmic horror writer/dungeon master this is a classic for the playlist.

  • @AntipaladinPedigri
    @AntipaladinPedigri Місяць тому

    2. lovecraftian horror can end in a somewhat positive way where there the protags win against the entity, banish it, but it is clear that ii is only a temporary victory, and that at some point the horror will return.
    While horror is about returning the world to the status quo, cosmic horror is about the world being irredeemable, impossible to repair, broken in some fundamental way. Any solutions are bandaids on a bloody stump where once the arm was.

  • @TheZetaKai
    @TheZetaKai 8 місяців тому

    That tone of existential dread, insignificance, and ambiguity is absolutely essential to cosmic horror. You can have a powerful alien monster, heroes way out of their depth, an isolated setting, and a downer ending, but without that tone, you don't have cosmic horror. Imagine a story with those elements, but the monster's motives are well-explained, the heroes are able to challenge the threat, and the ending is hopeful.

  • @Androctonus84
    @Androctonus84 8 місяців тому

    One of the most masterful examples in this genre that hits all the points perfectly is the original Twilight Zone episode “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street”. It has it all perfectly couched in a 25 minute TV episode.

  • @jjbjjb273
    @jjbjjb273 8 місяців тому +1

    Very good I enjoy watching your videos

  • @horrortopia
    @horrortopia 8 місяців тому +2

    DISCLAIMER - UNSPONSORED
    0:25 - 1. Spoilers
    0:32 - 2. What is Cosmic Horror?
    1:26 - 3.a. Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Themes of Existential Dread and Human Insignificance
    2:12 - 3.b. Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Cosmic Horror Creatures/Entities
    3:10 - 3.c.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Forbidden Knowledge and Cults
    3:38 - 3.d.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Isolated Settings
    4:02 - 3.e.Key Elements of Cosmic Horror - Psychological Breakdowns
    4:46 - 4.a. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Focus on Theme first and Monster Second
    5:27 - 4.b. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Avoid Happy/Positive Endings
    5:46 - 4.c. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Leave Unanswered Questions
    6:01 - 4.d. Tips for Writing Cosmic Horror - Find Creative Ways to Describe the Indescribable
    6:42 - 5. What's your Favorite Cosmic Story
    6:48 - Support Mr. Brandon McNulty

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому

      Appreciate this--thanks!

    • @horrortopia
      @horrortopia 8 місяців тому

      no worries. I saw you didn't put any markers in this video.@@WriterBrandonMcNulty

  • @Elia-fn8jv
    @Elia-fn8jv 6 місяців тому

    How would you call an horror that is terrifying but can be explained,banished or beaten?and what themes would that evoke?

  • @kanadpathak8426
    @kanadpathak8426 4 місяці тому

    True Detective season 1 us 7:16 s probably the best recent cosmic horror story to the point that there is ambiguity in its genre itself

  • @magusxxx
    @magusxxx 8 місяців тому

    I love the original Hellboy movie. At the end when Ilsa does her, "...a paradise for you, and her..." speech was amazing. The tonal quality of the words weren't a plea or a negotiation.And if you look back to the beginning of the movie you'll realize something pretty different from other movies. The villains didn't lie. Everything they said was matter of fact. There wasn't any grandiose yelling. This made the movie much more enjoyable in my opinion.

  • @tomhools1605
    @tomhools1605 8 місяців тому +1

    I wish there was a horror space opera.

  • @LaurieLeighArt
    @LaurieLeighArt 8 місяців тому +1

    I have a request not related to this video. My friend and I were talking about writing in third person and the character having a first person thought. Do you italize the thought? And why you would or wouldn't. Thank you!

  • @anaximander66
    @anaximander66 8 місяців тому

    Shadow Overland Innsmouth and True Detective are truly great. Someone has got to mention the roleplaying games Call of Cthulhu and Delta Green. The Call of Cthulhu RPG by Sandy Peterson has played a role in keeping Lovecraft and cosmic horror alive in American culture.

  • @premium_chicken_nuggy
    @premium_chicken_nuggy 8 місяців тому +1

    The movie, End Of Evangelion is a really good example of cosmic horror.
    It focuses on themes of free will and the slow decay of our desire to no longer exist.
    It sucks because you have to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion first, but trust me dude, it’s worth it.

    • @NicknameDS
      @NicknameDS 7 місяців тому +2

      Hey, Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't that bad

  • @briantrafford4871
    @briantrafford4871 8 місяців тому +5

    Alien is my favourite. Yes the monster is "defeated" in the end, but we are left knowing that a far greater monster is still out there.

  • @N.definite
    @N.definite 8 місяців тому

    Hey Brandon when writing a story that takes place on a fictional planet, how early should I let readers know the name of the planet, country and city the story takes place in?

  • @moycorbin4750
    @moycorbin4750 8 місяців тому

    30 days of night (movie) is near to this becuse even if we know they creatures are vampires, we don't knwo (and the characters don't know) where they came from, their language and how could they defeat them, also a very sad ending

  • @haumea2097
    @haumea2097 8 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if The Eternal Cylinder (video game) counts as cosmic horror. (Spoiler for the game below)
    It's hard to describe the game in detail due to it's dreamyness, but I'll try. I definietly recommend playing the game. Sorry for my bad English in advance.
    It deals with a cosmic entity, The Eternal Cylinder. A sentient mobile megastructure of unknown origin, which seeks destruction to end all difference within the universe, which in it's mind would end all suffering aswell. It rolls across inhabited planets and flattens them out like a steamroller, destroying all life in the process. Even though the game does make the player peek inside the Cylinder's mind a couple of times, there's still a lot of mistery surrounding it.
    The main characters are not human. They are sentient creatures called "Trebhum" (in both plural and singular). They are native to the planet the game takes place on. They look like earless bipedal elepjant spheres, but the game does point out that they are similar to humans in some ways. Specifically by not being the strongest, nor the fastest, nor having sharp teeth, but by being clever, resourceful, and very, very, stubborn.
    The Cylinder also has these so called "Servants", which are minions fabricated from remnants of things it absorbed on a previous world, which during the time the game takes place, was Earth. This results in the servants being horribly twisted steampunk-cyborg somethings. The chief servant, the Mathematician has an especially threathening presence
    As for the ending, it is happy, but it's also open-ended. It ends with the remnants of Human souls taking control of the Mathematician, re-absorbing it into the Cylinder, which creates an explosion which disables the Cylinder... For now. As it is implied that the Cylinder is unstoppable, and that it will one day re-awaken, and continue its destruction. The Trebhum might have won a battle, but they did not win the war.
    The main theme of the story is not really insignificance however. It's clear that it's more about the power of the diverse many over the encompassing one.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  8 місяців тому +1

      Haven't heard of this game till now. I'll have to keep it on my radar. Usually the first cosmic horror game people mention is Dead Space, which is another good one

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite 8 місяців тому

    I think "Forbidden Planet" has aspects of cosmic horror, especially before we discover who the monster(s) is(are)... maybe even after.

  • @shitz1313
    @shitz1313 8 місяців тому +2

    Ok, so I'm a 12 year old who wants to pursue in later life as a writer. The problem I'm facing is that whenever I write something and then read another book I have a big realisation that I suck and I cannot write. I think that writing isn't meant for children and I really doubt myself. Can anyone give me any tips or anything that can help me

    • @DMKarinZeeland
      @DMKarinZeeland 8 місяців тому

      Not an expert, but writing non fiction helped me during the times that I felt too young or inexperienced to write fiction.

  • @WeirdVideoGames
    @WeirdVideoGames 8 місяців тому

    Hmmm, does Cube count as Cosmic Horror?

  • @madmartigan21
    @madmartigan21 8 місяців тому

    Would the movie The Gate 1987 be considered Cosmic horror or perhaps Cosmic horror adjacent?

  • @Antrod
    @Antrod Місяць тому

    To answer the "question of the day" I have two. Underwater and Glorious.
    Underwater is about a group of scientists who are mining at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Things go south, and the ending is insane!
    Glorious is about a man who encounters a being ina bathroom stall. The beingbis voiced by J.K. Simmons and couldnt be a better fit!
    Spoiling the two--dont read if you want to watch.
    Underwater did a fantastic job of showing thr big bad on screen. The writer confirmed it was Cthulu, but real fans will argue its not. Regardless, it was a good modern attempt at putting Cthulu on screen.
    In Glorious its revealed that the being is a son of an "Old One" and requires something of the human. Its a fantastic film, and JK kills the role!
    Anyway. Highly recommended the two, thank you for the video!

  • @ValeVin
    @ValeVin 8 місяців тому

    Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer is my favorite by far. (I love the Southern Reach Trilogy, but even on its own, Annihilation is excellent. The movie is okay, too. It's good, it's just... weird to see a movie that includes zero of the best parts of the novel it claims to adapt.)

  • @johngagon
    @johngagon 8 місяців тому

    One thing cosmic horror seems to have in common with traditional horror is the dwindling number of survivors/death and a sweet and innocent character that makes it close to or near the end. The monster possession seems to have a similar feel to zombie. I would almost count Hell Raiser, A Quiet Place and Candy Man as a close but different genre to Cosmic Horror. My question here is, what do these fall under/do they have names? Are there good anime examples out there since I think it's possible with a lot of them and they too also seem to fit a genre. I also tend to think of some other close seconds like the Blob or mindvat experiment type ideas played with in some Trek/Twilight Zone episodes. All these lean on the mindscrew shock or dream nightmare element outside of gore horror.

  • @fragwagon
    @fragwagon 8 місяців тому +3

    I just realized my story may be cosmically horrible.

  • @justagoodmetalhead2861
    @justagoodmetalhead2861 8 місяців тому +1

    Call of Cthullu and The Other Gods by H.P Lovecraft

  • @Ayrond
    @Ayrond 8 місяців тому

    I definitely think that the guys over at Just Roll With It did an incredible job creating an audio-only cosmic horror with their patreon exclusive miniseries Blood In The Bayou.
    The story being showed woth the use of Call Of Cthulu (a TTRPG system made for cosmic horror) definitely makes the powerlessness easy to write, since you don't have to actually write much (in the system the player characters are weak and defenseless by design), but Charlie Slimecicle is still extremely good at creating a haunting image of the monsters with deceptively simple words. (Everyone who enjoys a good cosmic horror story set in an 80's small town should go and pledge 5 dollars to JRWI and have a listen to Blood In The Bayou, it's roughly 10 hours long in total but definitely worth tge money as an experience)

  • @PortugueseKeto
    @PortugueseKeto 8 місяців тому

    The Birds strikes me as cosmic horror, the only thing is that birds are eminently describable. But there’s the powerlessness, the uncertain ending, the inexplicability of the events, the isolation of bodega bay, and the dread of knowing humanity’s precarious relationship with nature can be tipped without warning

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 8 місяців тому

    this maybe a really odd book take but I consider the Ghost of Christmas Past from a Christmas Carol to be an example of cosmic horror with its unusual appearance.

  • @jtoland2333
    @jtoland2333 5 місяців тому

    I was involved in a mutual relationship, and remained good friends with the guy. We are still good friends. We still hang out, I am also friends with his girlfriend, its all good. We did make the right decision.
    However....
    I won't say it didn't hurt, because it always does. We had to face that whatever we imagined our story's ending would be would be different. And we needed time apart in order for our roles to be reshaped.
    The friendship we have now was worth the pain, but in no way was it easy.

  • @JohnnyWordSmith
    @JohnnyWordSmith 8 місяців тому

    Does 10 Cloverfield Lane count?

  • @thugalicious999
    @thugalicious999 Місяць тому

    would halloween 1978 be considered a cosmic horror? Especially in the first movie which does have a very cosmic horror feeling to it. There is no explanation or reason for michael (at the time) and loomis describes him as pure evil which is also leaves his character extremely ambiguous. I feel like michael is an otherworldly force so would that make him a cosmic horror antagonist?
    edit: The film also has a mysterious and chilling ending where michael dissapears after taking 6 bullets which further builds mystique around his character his unexplainable powers. I feel like the only thing the film lacks is a character breaking down mentally but i guess that could be laurie considering the current canon.