WhereI live, St Leonards in the South of England, and in neighbouring Hastings our Masses are reverent. I do not see any conflict between vernacular language and reverence. We use many EP3 on Sundays EP2 on weekdays, I would like to see EP1 more often.
Our parish is setting a wonderful example of this reverent Novus Ordo Mass. Ad Orientum, incense, more Latin responses and songs, 2 kneelers at every station for Communion, increased priests and deacons as Eucharistic ministers, cards in pews about how to and who can recieve, encouraging modest dress, natural increase in veiling women and girls, and no more girl altar servers. Confession lines are often long, offered daily. Perpetual Adoration. Incredible youth ministry program. A very very active and thriving parish. Ours is the envy of the diocese, and hopefully something they all aspire to become.
our parish as well in Canada. The tabernacle was returned to the altar in the central position, the priests and deacons chairs were moved to the side where the tabernacle was. Kneelers placed up front, some people use them some don't. We use incense now. I'm not an expert but we use some Greek and Latin and Gregorian chants. It feels very sacred, and I can't go back to pure Novus Ordo with guitars and old folks drinking the Wine.
How can the people make responses at certain times if a priest prays with his back toward them?And what about churches where the high altars were torn out after Vatican II Counci
Over the last 2 years, 2 local parishes I attend daily mass at placed a Kneeler where the Priest distributes Communion, in both cases it went from most people receiving in the hand, to most people kneeling. The Priest never said anything, people just saw the kneeler and used it.
These changes would make such a big difference. Our last priest was doing all of these things and no peace sign. It helped me in so many ways to understand more fully what I was doing and why. Since 2020 (covid) my faith and my learning has increased significantly and I’m so grateful except that I pains me to see other not reverently serving the Lord.
Receiving on the hand has always been an indult from Vatican due to the miscommunications that happened during the Vatican 2 Council changes that went awry.. not the way the Pope of that time intended originally. Receiving on the tongue is and will always be the only way to receive Our Lord
@@deborahsheldon9951 the traditional way is standing by hand. Standing is the original way people show reverence. We know this from our saint’s writings. The eastern rites still see standing as reverent and kneeling as penance. It’s a discipline, saying you wont do another sounds like you are making a discipline into a dogma. By hand is also the original way we received communion. You are not even using the traditional way.
In regards to the priest taking his watch off. My priest in the Byzantine rite used to say that there should be no clocks in the church because the liturgy was outside of time.
Awesome job Jordan ! Strickland was so impressed by your understanding, and I could tell how much he enjoyed hearing you speak with such love and passion for Jesus and His Holy Church
Bishop Strickland, we loved having you at St. Monica in Duluth, Ga. where you could give the holiest Novus Ordo Mass ever! It was a miracle that our altar rail in our sanctuary renovation by this most liberal Archdiocese of Atlanta was approved. There are only a couple of "die hard" elderly people who still stand and put their hands out to receive Holy Communion and/or complain that our priests "turn their backs on us laypeople," but they are the exception. Even new people, totally unacquainted with the architecture and the reverence of our Masses, kneel, accept Communion on their tongues and remain quiet before and after Mass, both daily and Sunday. We loved having a priest, and even a bishop, of like mind when you celebrated Mass at St. Monica. May God continue to bless you and our holy priests at St. Monica!
Kneelers and communion on the tongue but please also bring back the paten so that there are no accidents if the host were to drop while being given by the priest.
Less chance of that than those who are allowed to walk away with it in their hand. It's bad enough when I see an EM permit it, but it really drives me crazy when I have seen clergy do it.
And a paten keeps particles from falling on the floor to which everyone then steps on. It is completely unavoidable. So you are stepping on our Lord if even one person is not using a paten.
The return of the communion rail I believe would have done more for belief in the real presence than the entire revival. On our knees on the tongue only is the truth.
Yes, i dont see any difference at Sunday Mass in the parish. People are still casual, nonchalant, and irreverent in Church. They talk, laugh. If there is anyone who wanted to pray, they cant pray in the House of Prayer. The three year multi-million dollar project of the Bishops has not made a difference.
@erikriza7165 sadly that's true and predictable. I still pray it woke enough up to support the return to tradition and the installation of the communion rails and adorientum. The chasm between the sanctuary and man is not breechable accept by God Himself. We have lost site that the rail represents that chasm and our Blessed Lord alone can reach across we cannot.
@@brucejohnson4462 yes, sad but true. My Bishop does Mass ad orientem at the Cathedral, and he encourages priests to do it if they want to. i think i will not see the Church return to common sense in my lifetime.
Gosh. I don't think I've ever sat down and listened to Bishop Strickland. He sounds so unbelievably more reasonable than the media made him out to be. God bless him.
❤❤❤ Awesome realizations! 1. Greater reverence. 2. Greater Focus on Christ. 3. Focus on union/gratitude with Christ. Turn around and face Jesus Christ! Ad Orientem.
Tk you our dear Bishop Strickland for your faithful & truthful testimony. Being from Diocese of Tyler, I'm tkful that many (if not all) parishes have kneelers. I'm 75 & still kneel to receive. I hope & pray for all priests to say Mass Ad Orientum & to get women (& girl altar servers) off the Altar & also proclaiming the Word of God at the podium. Only the Latin Mass does this as far as I know. Let's get us out of the way & re-establish our Mass Christ's holy Way. I miss you dear Bsp Strickland as do many others from Tyler. Tk you & keep up God's work in His vineyard. We know God is using you in a mighty way in these times!!! We & many others are praying for you as always.
As a Catholic for only 3 years now, a convert , I agree. I love you Bishop Strickland and pray for you. I have never, nor will I ever receive the Sacred Eucharist on the hand. I love the kneelers, I pray we return to them. The Mass needs to be Sacred, not rushed through. Remember, Heaven, all the Angels and Saints are present at the Mass. My first Mass, I experienced Heaven coming down to celebrate Mass, as Dr Scott Hahn in his book-The Supper of the Lamb. God bless you Bishop. ✝️🥰🙏
Return to our Catholic Church and the true faith where jesus is the head 🙏 ❤❤❤ God The father God the son God the Holy spirit 🙏 Thankyou father Strickland ❤❤❤ God's in charge not the devil 🙏 ❤
You are SO spot on!! We recently attended N.O. Mass where we had an option; go up the right side of the main aisle to receive, on a kneeler, from the priest, on the tongue OR go up the left side and receive standing, in the hand, from the deacon. If it would not have been disrespectful, I would have taken a picture as it said it all! The line on the right went all the way back to the last pew; the "line" on the left had four (4) people! Your three suggestions would do more for renewing belief in the Real Presence that the 26 million the USCCB spent on the Eucharistic Revival!
I would like to love to be able to kneel to receive the Holy Eucharist. I genuflect at the last row of seats so I can that use that to help me get up. If I should kneel I might be a bit irreverent in getting up (73 old lady here). I do receive it on the tongue. I have, when visiting family, been able to go to the Latin Mass where they still have Altar rails and I am able to kneel to receive the Lord. It was the way I received my first Eucharist, how I wish I could receive that way regularly.
Although I agree with this, Jesus discussed with his disciples who were so concerned about the fulfillment of prophecy, that to know that they must go back to the beginning. As we read in John that in the beginning all things were sacred as everything was with God. I think the problem know is we don't feel like we are with God anymore. My suspicion is we find out from God the sacred is all around we just treat it profanely. We hear from the Church how we are fallen. How do we get back there then? If it is through Jesus as we believe, what is he telling us about the people and things around us? I suspect we treat far too many things casually, so we forget everything in God is in fact sacred. Otherwise, why love your enemy? They are destined for enteral damnation in most eyes. That is thinking like man and not like the Heavenly father that Jesus is pointing to.
Casual depends a lot on the observer. My dad was in the 41st Infantry Division in the South Pacific in WW2. Mass was said on the hood of a jeep or on ammunition boxes, and at times hurried as an attack was imminent. An observer could say that it was casual - and rushed.
We had two staple priests at our parish. One was the official pastor, who was young(er), and the other was the assistant pastor, or simply the other celebrant, who was older. Well, the older one would consistently celebrate mass with Eucharistic Prayer I. Always. Even as a pre-teen, I loved it. My brothers and sisters hated it because it was so much longer. Whenever I would hear a sigh (audibly) from one of my sisters especially, I would be grinning from ear to ear. Those were precious days for me, thanks be to God!!
I am also 75 and walk with a cane. I go down on my one functioning knee and hoist myself back up with the cane. Since I can't fold my hands and do all that, I hold my free hand over my breast. (On Sunday I go to TLM - so alta rrail - kind to old knees. But in the daily NO I have priests chastising me for taking too long, etc. They got a good catechesis from me and I told them as long as I can crawl up to receive Him who walked the Via Dolorosa for me and died for me on the Cross I will do it. One priest, a visitor from Africa said: But doesn't it hurt? All I could say, do you think that Jesus' knees didn't hurt under the weight of my sins? He went very quiet then. You are my true sister in Christ - let us kneel together before the Divine Majesty and preach in word and especially in deed.
St Augustine did Communion in the hand. He explains how to correctly do it in several of his letters. That's St Augustine............he honors our Lord Jesus far more than you and I, combined. I challenge you to honor our Lord in communion in the hand as St Augustine prescribed. The Church allows for both and in the hand came before on the tongue. Learn your Church history and catechism.
And the only message you should send......is to our Lord and our Lord alone You shouldn't care to be sending a message to the congregation or any human being. Stop and think about what communion is and what it isn't. Communion belongs to our Lord and no one else. Its you and our Lord. Nobody else matters during communion.
@@weissblau You reminded of Eleazar (2 Maccabees 6) who gave his life rather than set a bad example. God bless you! Your preaching by example may be the best message many who witness it receive! 🙏🙏🙏
This change in celebrating Mass is happening in several churches in our Diocese kneelers have returned, communion on the tongue strongly encouraged and Mass Ad Orientem on Solemnities and Feast Days. We receive the Precious Blood only by intinction on special days and only given by Priest or Deacons. These are all wonderful changes and will The True Presence more believable.
Amen! There are many many people who want and need your points to happen! It would be wonderful! I am seeing the younger new priest doing this and the masses are so much more reverent and beautiful! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The communion in the hand started while I was away at college. I grew up with V2 and learned nothing doctrinal in the “catechism” I got when I could get there. It was held for many years at a Catholic high school 18 miles away at 3:15 on Wednesdays. My school got out at 3:00 and we had only one car which Dad drove to work 2-3 days per week. But even if we did have the car, getting to a 45 minute class 18 miles away in actually less than 15 minutes was impossible. Besides, my father asked about having classes on Sunday afternoon or at the mission chapel we attended. They said no, but it wasn’t necessary except for children preparing for Communion or Confirmation. The same priest told parents at a Communion meeting that parents shouldn’t bring children to confession because we didn’t commit serious sins. It was shown to be psychologically damaging, giving us “guilt complexes.” Wait until Confirmation. My parents were from the Silent Generation. Whatever the priest or nun said, goes. No more questions! What catechism I did get was stories about social justice. And we made banners out of felt, burlap, and rick-rack. As soon as I left home, I stopped going to church. When I came home for Easter break, everyone was sticking out their hands to receive Communion. I did not know It was the literal Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ. I first suspected that in 2003 while at a Baptist church and the pastor read St. John, chapter 6. It’s not that people have LOST the Faith, they weren’t given it in the first place. You can’t lose what you never had.
No I don't think you get rid of it, but you move it to before the Gifts. Both Sacred Scripture (Mt 5:23) and Tradition (Saint Justin Marytr's Liturgy from 150 AD) both have it. All the ancient Liturgies have it. I watched a Mozarabic Rite Liturgy the other day on youtube, which was the Form of the Roman Rite in Spain had it in it. In fact, Pope Benedict in Spirit of the Liturgy suggested as much and pointed out that the Catholic Church in Africa actually requested to move it to where Scripture and Tradition indicates it should be and it was approved. Needs to be done for the everyone that uses the 1970 Roman Missal. Now, I may shake a persons hand right next to me, and that is it. More and more people are just giving a nod or a wave as the poster above noted.
@@mpkropf5062 I am not saying go back to the Sacred Kiss done in the 2nd Century according to the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr, who was in fact martyred in Rome (so he would rightfully be considered to be included in the Roman Canon). What I am talking about is the Rite of the sign of peace which is a simple handshake extended to those in the pew next to you that is it. No I don't Kiss my wife in Mass either but I don't get totally upset if a Husband and wife give a respectful Kiss to one another as Catholics are not Puritans. Still, I generally ignore what is going on around me. I hug my wife, shake the hand someone right in front of me in the pew and that is it. (I sit in the back corner with nobody to my right with my wife to my left). I am talking about the Biblical command from Christ to be reconciled with your Brother before you bring your gifts to the altar and following the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr in substance (sign of peace by hand shake) not in form (the exchanging the Sacred Kiss as He called it (Chapter 65 of his 1st Apologia).
@@mpkropf5062 I am not saying return to the exact form of the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr. The substance of it is fine if done with a simple shaking of the hand with the people just right next to you in the pew. I don't kiss my wife in Church either, just simple hug for the record and I always sit in the back right corner of the side Chapel in my parish Church and thus have nobody on my immediate Right and only my wife ot my immediate Left. So I think the Rite is rooted in both the Scriptures and Tradition, but 1) Needs to moved back to before the Gifts, not during the Eucharistic Prayer and 2) done appropriately with reverence.
During the "sign of peace", I bow my head and quietly pray this prayer three times. " May the powerful wind of the Holy Spirit blow throughout the Church and clear out the smoke of Satan". People may think I am being arrogant but that is not my problem. The "sign of peace" feels disruptive.
@@timmoore9736 you can’t do ad orientum if the tabernacle is on a side altar or in another area. Otherwise, the priest and congregation are just facing towards a wall.
AMEN!! We are in a combined parish that used to be three separate ones. With the changing of the guard at the end of June, we got a new pastor. Hoping for some changes - such as placing a Crucifix front and center (the only one we have in one of the churches is the one processed in at the beginning of Mass!) Of course, the Tabernacle is off to the side. Hard to feel that I'm in a Catholic church.
I couldn’t agree more, I feel that the respect towards our lord in mass needs to start from the priest since they are the 1st examples and leaders. I pray 🙏 that proper respect is done and we follow.
Definitely agree about here in the US, but not so sure about other countries - especially Africa. Having visiting/missionary priests is getting more and more common in our area and they are consistently more reverent than those born and raised here.
@@barbarabyrne1886 Actually a lot of the Younger Priest are pushing to learn and say the Traditional Catholic Mass. It's the 1960's / 70s generation who wanted the "new mass". Read Quo Primum. They never were able to change the Mass.
I’m 68 and would love to receive Holy Communion at the communion rail again. I had both hips replaced and need knee replacement and a rail would make it so I could kneel🙏
@@timmoore9736 +JMJ You really don't know much about the history of the liturgy, If you did you would know that the cup was given rarely if ever. The casualness of the NO has led to abuse of the sacred species.
@@brianbacon5149 Jesus said: 'Take this all of you and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me'. A straightforward command from Jesus.
@maddyproctor1443 +JMJ A straightforward command to the Apostles who taught reverent reception of the Most Holy Eucharist. As Successors to the Apostles the Saints, Popes and Bishops have taught that reverence means that receipt of the host from the consecrated hand of a priest on the tongue while the communicant kneels is the ordinary expression of that reverence. Moreover that liturgical practice of 1500 years prevents abuse and desecration of the Most Blessed Sacrament. The Magisterium has interpreted Our Lord's words in accordance with Apostolic Tradition. By stark contrast Protestants take an unschooled literal interpretation of Holy Scripture and treat it as if it were the sole authority which (nowhere in Scripture can be found authority for that erroneous proposition). Pax Domine vobiscum.
In our parish in the ‘80s, a priest ordered us to receive in the hand because he thought it was gross to look at a tongue sticking out. Because we are obedient we did what we told. On the tongue has never come back. It’s up to the Bishops to fix this.
If people are kneeling, they are not face to face, so the Priest s not looking directly into the mouth It all fitted together in original,Mass In a beautiful way
That was the same mass that many of the doctors of our church like St Thomas Aquinas St Francis of Assisi and St Therese of Lisieux, Padre Pio defended @@dan_m7774
+JMJ Nobody knows how Communion was received at the First Mass. We do know that Communion was to be received on the tongue as a mandate as early as 878. We also know that St. Thomas Aquinas said that only the consecrated hands of a priest should touch the sacred species. Summa Theologiae Q. 83
Have received on the tongue for decades and will never go back to standing and in the hand where particles of the Host can be dropped on the floor or remain in the hand. Our local novus ordo parishes are offering the kneelers again and one parish has 'as orientem' Masses.
Oh, I’d rather pay to reinstall communion rails than pay for the 5 BIG SCREEN TVs with sound systems we have in our small church that play babbling creeks, ocean waves, flowers during mass.
PRAISE BE TO GOD! KEEP PRAYING FOR ALL OUR SHEPHERDS TO ALL BE IN AGREEMENT IN HOW THE EUCHARIST NEEDS TO BE TREATED & RECEIVED BY THE FAITHFULS. IN THE STATE OF GRACE, KNEELING & ON THE TOUGUE 🙏🙏🙏 WE ARE RECEIVING OUR GOD.
Kneeling and on the tongue was nowhere as universal as the proponents of the TLM say (or lie about). We have had a three year Eucharistic revivial, which has been a blessing. But kneeling and on the tongue was not a focus. Christ, Body, Blood, Soul and Dividnity was.
My church installed an Altar rail and that really encourages Communion on the tongue while kneeling. Everyone going to the altar instead of multiple places around the church is absolutely more reverent and does not take any more time as some impatient people object.
The mass in ad orientum is Extremely beautiful. there is no distraction away from God. Everything is focused on God. There is no sign of peace, no watching the band to play in the corner of the altar. It feels like just you and Jesus. In the TLM. Using a patten is a must And Gregorian chant just enhances everything. The traditional latin mass is the mass of almost all hour saints. Why should we change it at all. Unfortunately, it is extremely hard to fin, and it looks like it will be removed. If that happens, it will definitely break my heart.
@@timmoore9736thank God for the summit of the mass of all ages, canonised by Pope St Pius X. That is the version we should all be keeping and never changing
Absolutely include in Sunday Mass the Eucharistic prayes in the old 1950" s missals.Also Prayers before Holy Mass from St Thomas Aquinas and or St Ambrose.I have St Andrew 1955 Missal.
We forget that the Holy Mass is the Holy Sacrifice of Christ that he offered himself on the cross. It's not a meal or supper like the lutherans believe. All revence and respect is due to God especially being at the Holy Sacrifice at the consecration. 🙏🙏🙏🌹
Great, great podcast! I love you, Jordan, and Bishop Strickland. I offered to donate the money for Holy Communion kneelers and I was turned down flat 😭😭 I have since become a member of Father John Brancichs parish. How blessed am I ??
I am an acolyte for my parish in Oregon where we are blessed with a pastor who has overseen the altar being restored from a side chapel to its original position as the high altar. Our vintage cast-iron communion rails were removed in 1965; they have recently been restored as padded wooden kneeling benches. When l began to serve there the girls were mixed in with the boys and everyone wore street clothes. I am properly robed and kneel at the altar’s side steps or at a small kneeler. So? The difference is heartening. The church has come alive again. People are realizing how vital the growing respect for the Eucharist increases the awareness of Christ’s presence within us and among us.
@@dan_m7774maybe for those who can't read parish bulletins... Like the blind and illiterate. But how many are there like that in our parishes? Perhaps you might have special empathy for these minority 😉
@@dan_m7774 I am involved. Very much so---usher, Dad's Club, Rosary Makers. The announcements, however, can be done before mass or we can be asked to read the bulletin.
@@dan_m7774 +JMJ Oh yes. Active participation. People doing stuff right? Wrong. Active participation means praying the Mass and not doing mindless town hall busy work. That's what the NO has become. It's more like a town hall happy meal. It's no wonder no one goes to the NO anymore.
In my parish, all the sacristans except for me are women. Most of the readers are women and almost all the servers (when we have them) are women. The deacon who trained me thanked me for volunteering to be a sacristan at our late morning Mass. He said the ministry of sacristan is proper to men not women. I have been serving in this role for 2 years thus far.
"casual" is an understatement for what has happened. After 45 years, I reconciled myself to the church, having left after the implantation of the Novus Ordo. It was disheartening to walk into the church sanctuary to see that it has lost. People dress so casually you think they were going to attend a picnic instead of receiving the Eucharist. The attendees are holding conversations, texting and completely ignoring what is going on before them at the altar. The mass has become nothing more than a protestant service.
We do all those things in the Ordinariate. It makes all the difference in the world! Also, getting rid of altar girls! The worst thing the Church allowed was altar girls! Implementing those changes will be a start to a new springtime in the Church!
It is saddening to hear your view regarding girls serving on the altar. We are all made in the image of God and are one in our Baptism. Something has gone very wrong if we are denying our girls this wonderful opportunity. God notices these things..
Not too long ago i received communion on my right hand (i didnt use both hands The Priest after the mass asked ask and i answered the Priest himself received on just one hand and i.e. his right as a reverence to our Lord. That happened before i go to TLM mass. Thank God
I love Eucharistic Prayer I ! One section particularly overlooked is the following prayer: In humble prayer we ask you, almighty God: command that these gifts be borne by the hands of your holy Angel to your altar on high in the sight of your divine majesty, so that all of us, who through this participation at the altar receive the most holy Body and Blood of your Son This is a reference to Saint Michael's role, which links the Catholic Mass to the Jewish Temple rites. Saint Michael was seen as elevating the temple sacrifices from the earthly Jerusalem Temple to the Temple in heaven, where each sacrifice was carried out simultaneously.
A little comment about communion in both Kinds. I am a convert, evangelical then Anglo-Catholic, then Traditional Catholic. When I was Anglican we had communion in both Kinds, kneeling. I am severely Celiac and this allowed me to communicate. Now I attend a diocesan TLM. I will likely never be able to receive again. It has been ten years and counting... :(
For reasons that I don’t understand, even when kneelers are used, the priests don’t seem to understand that they should stand behind the kneeler and not to the side of of the kneeler.
We have one Church here where you can choose to stand (hand) or kneel (tongue). They also offer the cup. But then usually the guy with the cup has withdrawn. So either in hand andnyou can have the wine or kneel and no wine. I choose the first option. Always make sure I sit close to the front so I can get a turn on the cup. I alao notice many people just walk past the cup without bowing or noticing. But if N O was good for ONE thing is we can have the cup. Luckily there is ONE Church in driving distance that does it.
COVID lockdowns certainly did bring reverence from the Faithful who returned to Mass at some of my local parishes. Some were still fearful for a long time. I can't speak for the ones who simply lost or lacked faith, and never returned to Mass. I don't know where they went. But the young people basically left the elderly parishes to their social distancing and communion in the hand, and went in search of a reverent Mass. We only have one TLM in the area, and it's only 40 minutes up the lake road in summer, depending on traffic for the 8am Mass. Personally, I can't afford the fuel to make that trip, so I go to the most reverent NO I can find that's in affordable distance. And with the influx of new people coming to that church who hunger for the sacred, the priest has been able to respond to parishioner requests to bring back the kneelers. There was no way to install communion rails, so Father had specially made prie-deux made at parishioner request shortly after we were able to return to Mass. People were actually kneeling on the marble floor to receive on the tongue, and Father is young, but I know his back got sore from all the bending. That probably motivated him to get the kneelers made quickly. He's now re-renovating the church building to more like what it was before the wreckovations started in the 1970s. I've known parishioners since long before I began attending after covid restrictions were lifted, and my dad and stepmom were parishioners for a long time in the 1980s-early 1990s, when they moved to a different town. I used to attend with them, and the priest at that time made more changes. The communion rails had been removed long before, and so were the gorgeous statues of Mary and Joseph. Then this new priest in the 198s came in and removed the crucifix, replacing it with a "resurrexifix" or whatever it's called. He said it's Jesus inviting us to take up our crosses. I guess it's inspired by the Franciscan depiction of Jesus lifting St. Francis onto the Cross to receive the stigmata. But according to the GIRM that's not a proper crucifix. And so, on parishioner request, the current Father bought a proper crucifix and statues of Mary and Joseph. Now that the sanctuary is made beautiful again, there is more in progress to restore the former beauty of the nave. Some of the architectural changes from the past can't be undone, but the ones that are beautiful will be incorporated (the baptismal fountain is one of the beautiful changes from the 1990s, and will remain). People have been telling Father it's beautiful, but this past Sunday he preached on the bread of life, and said the beauty is intended to honor the Lord in the Tabernacle, to remind us that there's a King in the building, and He is our Lord.
The Novus Ordo needs to be scrapped. Even using the Roman canon, it is still a watered down version. Go to the TLM for a month, follow along with the English translation and then tell me what you think.
@@MrsAngelala While people poke at the Ordinary Form, most of them have near zero understanding of liturgical history. And having lived through the introduction of the OF, I understand that most have no clues as to the changes - the why, and the where did that come from. I also spent 2 decades slogging through the Mass before the changes, which included two years of high school Latin and two of college Latin and still could not read Latin (nor hear it) as a spoken language. The Ordinary Form will not be scratched; and while Sacrosanctum Concillium did not have chapter, line and verse of the changes to be made, 2,147 bishops of the world voted for it, and 4 voted against it. What was finally promulgated pleased most; some did not like some of the change, and some wanted different changes, and some wanted more. But the vast mj=ajority of bishops in the world suooprt it.
@@timmoore9736 +JMJ The 2147 bishops did NOT vote for the NO as implemented. Archbishop Lefebvre for example voted for SC. He objected wholeheartedly to the NO. Pope Benedict called the NO as implemented a rupture with Tradition. The NO will recede as it is dying out. Only 17% of Catholics attend Mass on Sunday. In Italy which is where the Vatican is located has only 10% Mass attendance. But the clergy in the US and Europe is very gay. That's a result of the NO culture which leads to embracing woke. The historical trend is: Catholic and Apostolic to Protestant to Modern Woke. That's not what the Lord wants. The Mass is central to the Faith. The NO is unCatholic and unApostolic. It has born rotten fruit and wolves in sheeps clothing. The Lord said trees bearing rotten fruit would be cut down. Wolves will be exposed.
Please check it out. Communion on the tongue is what is part of the Church. Communion in the hand is tolerated. St JP 2 DID NOT WANT COMMUNION IN THE HAND. He was disobeyed.
Question. Which parish did you attend in KC? We live in KCMO. Great interview and I like the insight about all the little things that are news for all of us that were poorly Catechized over the last several decades… removal of the watch for example.
We are very fortunate to attend a parish in Arizona 🌵that the priest have effected a hybrid of a Mass between NO and Traditional. Kneelers installed, some Latin chant and responsorial and rosary before every mass.
It is more likely that you have the Ordinary Form, with part of the Mass in Latin, The two Forms do not lend themselves to a blending and that would be a liturgical abuse. But saying aprt of the Ordinary Form in Latin (or Greek) is perfectly acceptable.
@@timmoore9736 Well that is your opinion. Remember the Jews were too much about form and every little detail and not about heart. Life long practicing Catholic and I like what I experience in our hybrid Mass. The holier than thou attitude I get from some Trads is noticed. Have a great day 🕊️
Wow just loved the video and all the beautiful explanations, so am I to understand that the bishop is back to his duties? This would be great news. So all disciplinary actions have been dropped ? Sorry I just did not get the good news . Where can I go to see this ? God bless you both 🙏🙏🙏
I love the Roman Canon, but it seems EP IV is overlooked so much. My God, that is a beautiful Anaphora, almost EXACTLY the anaphora of St. Basil. I wish that preface/EP could be used more broadly.
I am for anything that increases reverence for the Eucharist.
Plz Lord let's make our Masses reverent again. Mother Mary pray 4 us ! Thank u Jordan God bless u & Bishop Strickland!
Mary is praying Strickland repents and comes to his senses.
I can't speak to other areas of the country, but in Oregon and in Utah, the Masses are all reverent.
@@dan_m7774 +JMJ Bishop Strickland is a good and holy priest and bishop. Remember the Eighth Commandment Dan.
WhereI live, St Leonards in the South of England, and in neighbouring Hastings our Masses are reverent. I do not see any conflict between vernacular language and reverence. We use many EP3 on Sundays EP2 on weekdays, I would like to see EP1 more often.
@@dan_m7774 +JMJ. Please don't mock the Blessed Mother or Bishop Strickland.
Our parish is setting a wonderful example of this reverent Novus Ordo Mass. Ad Orientum, incense, more Latin responses and songs, 2 kneelers at every station for Communion, increased priests and deacons as Eucharistic ministers, cards in pews about how to and who can recieve, encouraging modest dress, natural increase in veiling women and girls, and no more girl altar servers. Confession lines are often long, offered daily. Perpetual Adoration. Incredible youth ministry program. A very very active and thriving parish. Ours is the envy of the diocese, and hopefully something they all aspire to become.
WOW!! Where do YOU live??!! It CAN be done!!
@@carlz7777 Were in the Archdiocese of Mpls St Paul in Minnesota. Under care of a great Archbishop and Cardinal Burke. We love our priests too.
@@OLGrace Thanks. That explains a lot. You have one of Pope Francis' closest friends there - Cardinal Burke! 😂
our parish as well in Canada. The tabernacle was returned to the altar in the central position, the priests and deacons chairs were moved to the side where the tabernacle was. Kneelers placed up front, some people use them some don't. We use incense now. I'm not an expert but we use some Greek and Latin and Gregorian chants. It feels very sacred, and I can't go back to pure Novus Ordo with guitars and old folks drinking the Wine.
How can the people make responses at certain times if a priest prays with his back toward them?And what about churches where the high altars were torn out after Vatican II Counci
Over the last 2 years, 2 local parishes I attend daily mass at placed a Kneeler where the Priest distributes Communion, in both cases it went from most people receiving in the hand, to most people kneeling. The Priest never said anything, people just saw the kneeler and used it.
AMEN!!!!
These changes would make such a big difference. Our last priest was doing all of these things and no peace sign. It helped me in so many ways to understand more fully what I was doing and why. Since 2020 (covid) my faith and my learning has increased significantly and I’m so grateful except that I pains me to see other not reverently serving the Lord.
I refuse to take Communion in the hand, and I only receive the host from the Priest. I want to give the Lord the highest respect that I can.
You act like the Pharisee, who kept to a legalistic view, but ignores the true intent.
It is up to the individual to choose how they receive; and neither ion the hand nor on the tongue are to be denied the recipient.
Receiving on the hand has always been an indult from Vatican due to the miscommunications that happened during the Vatican 2 Council changes that went awry.. not the way the Pope of that time intended originally.
Receiving on the tongue is and will always be the only way to receive Our Lord
@@dan_m7774 nonsense,
@@deborahsheldon9951 the traditional way is standing by hand. Standing is the original way people show reverence. We know this from our saint’s writings. The eastern rites still see standing as reverent and kneeling as penance. It’s a discipline, saying you wont do another sounds like you are making a discipline into a dogma.
By hand is also the original way we received communion. You are not even using the traditional way.
Thank you Bishop Strickland.
God bless Bishop Strickland 🙏
Bishop Strickland is a bishop hero of mine. Deacon (Ret.) Gene Townsend
Receiving the Eucharistic on my tongue while kneeling before the priest has changed and deepened my faith dramatically. My husband too.
They had no problem shocking the people with N.O. changes. We must waste no time in Returning to Tradition. ❤ God Bless & Love Bishop Strickland.
Well said!!!!!❤
Will never happen.
Please dont stop Bishop Strickland.
GOD BLESS YOU ✝️
In regards to the priest taking his watch off. My priest in the Byzantine rite used to say that there should be no clocks in the church because the liturgy was outside of time.
Awesome job Jordan ! Strickland was so impressed by your understanding, and I could tell how much he enjoyed hearing you speak with such love and passion for Jesus and His Holy Church
Bishop Strickland, we loved having you at St. Monica in Duluth, Ga. where you could give the holiest Novus Ordo Mass ever! It was a miracle that our altar rail in our sanctuary renovation by this
most liberal Archdiocese of Atlanta was approved. There are only a couple of "die hard" elderly people who still stand and put their hands out to receive Holy Communion and/or complain that our priests
"turn their backs on us laypeople," but they are the exception. Even new people, totally unacquainted
with the architecture and the reverence of our Masses, kneel, accept Communion on their tongues and remain quiet before and after Mass, both daily and Sunday. We loved having a priest, and even a bishop, of like mind when you celebrated Mass at St. Monica. May God continue to bless you and our holy priests at St. Monica!
Kneelers and communion on the tongue but please also bring back the paten so that there are no accidents if the host were to drop while being given by the priest.
Yep
Less chance of that than those who are allowed to walk away with it in their hand. It's bad enough when I see an EM permit it, but it really drives me crazy when I have seen clergy do it.
And a paten keeps particles from falling on the floor to which everyone then steps on. It is completely unavoidable. So you are stepping on our Lord if even one person is not using a paten.
The return of the communion rail I believe would have done more for belief in the real presence than the entire revival. On our knees on the tongue only is the truth.
Yes, i dont see any difference at Sunday Mass in the parish. People are still casual, nonchalant, and irreverent in Church. They talk, laugh. If there is anyone who wanted to pray, they cant pray in the House of Prayer. The three year multi-million dollar project of the Bishops has not made a difference.
@erikriza7165 sadly that's true and predictable. I still pray it woke enough up to support the return to tradition and the installation of the communion rails and adorientum.
The chasm between the sanctuary and man is not breechable accept by God Himself. We have lost site that the rail represents that chasm and our Blessed Lord alone can reach across we cannot.
@@brucejohnson4462 yes, sad but true. My Bishop does Mass ad orientem at the Cathedral, and he encourages priests to do it if they want to. i think i will not see the Church return to common sense in my lifetime.
@@erikriza7165 I pray we see it!
@@brucejohnson4462 i would kneel beside you and pray that prayer with you if i could. God bless you.
Gosh. I don't think I've ever sat down and listened to Bishop Strickland. He sounds so unbelievably more reasonable than the media made him out to be. God bless him.
❤❤❤
Awesome realizations!
1. Greater reverence.
2. Greater Focus on Christ.
3. Focus on union/gratitude with Christ. Turn around and face Jesus Christ! Ad Orientem.
Hello@jennifer
How are you doing 😊
Where are you from?
Tk you our dear Bishop Strickland for your faithful & truthful testimony. Being from Diocese of Tyler, I'm tkful that many (if not all) parishes have kneelers. I'm 75 & still kneel to receive. I hope & pray for all priests to say Mass Ad Orientum & to get women (& girl altar servers) off the Altar & also proclaiming the Word of God at the podium. Only the Latin Mass does this as far as I know. Let's get us out of the way & re-establish our Mass Christ's holy Way.
I miss you dear Bsp Strickland as do many others from Tyler. Tk you & keep up God's work in His vineyard. We know God is using you in a mighty way in these times!!! We & many others are praying for you as always.
Love Bishop Strickland' ! ❤
BLESSED BE GOD FOREVER 🙏
As a Catholic for only 3 years now, a convert , I agree. I love you Bishop Strickland and pray for you. I have never, nor will I ever receive the Sacred Eucharist on the hand. I love the kneelers, I pray we return to them. The Mass needs to be Sacred, not rushed through. Remember, Heaven, all the Angels and Saints are present at the Mass. My first Mass, I experienced Heaven coming down to celebrate Mass, as Dr Scott Hahn in his book-The Supper of the Lamb. God bless you Bishop. ✝️🥰🙏
Return to our Catholic Church and the true faith where jesus is the head 🙏 ❤❤❤ God The father God the son God the Holy spirit 🙏 Thankyou father Strickland ❤❤❤ God's in charge not the devil 🙏 ❤
Teaching the faithful that orans posture are for the priests.
Citation from the church how one MUST hold your hands
Let’s make the Mass Catholic again. ❤
Let’s make the Pope Catholic again!
Amen !
The true mass is Catholic. The novus ordo mass is not Catholic.
@@adrianmorelos3471 amen Hermano
The traditional Latin mass is Catholic It goes back to Christ time .St Augustine said the traditional Latin mass
You are SO spot on!! We recently attended N.O. Mass where we had an option; go up the right side of the main aisle to receive, on a kneeler, from the priest, on the tongue OR go up the left side and receive standing, in the hand, from the deacon. If it would not have been disrespectful, I would have taken a picture as it said it all! The line on the right went all the way back to the last pew; the "line" on the left had four (4) people!
Your three suggestions would do more for renewing belief in the Real Presence that the 26 million the USCCB spent on the Eucharistic Revival!
I would like to love to be able to kneel to receive the Holy Eucharist. I genuflect at the last row of seats so I can that use that to help me get up. If I should kneel I might be a bit irreverent in getting up (73 old lady here). I do receive it on the tongue. I have, when visiting family, been able to go to the Latin Mass where they still have Altar rails and I am able to kneel to receive the Lord. It was the way I received my first Eucharist, how I wish I could receive that way regularly.
Thank you true Shepherd of souls, Bishop Strickland
Casual is the enemy of the sacred
Great words!!!
Although I agree with this, Jesus discussed with his disciples who were so concerned about the fulfillment of prophecy, that to know that they must go back to the beginning. As we read in John that in the beginning all things were sacred as everything was with God. I think the problem know is we don't feel like we are with God anymore. My suspicion is we find out from God the sacred is all around we just treat it profanely. We hear from the Church how we are fallen. How do we get back there then? If it is through Jesus as we believe, what is he telling us about the people and things around us? I suspect we treat far too many things casually, so we forget everything in God is in fact sacred. Otherwise, why love your enemy? They are destined for enteral damnation in most eyes. That is thinking like man and not like the Heavenly father that Jesus is pointing to.
The Pharisee were the enemy for their strictness, yet lacking understanding.
Casual depends a lot on the observer. My dad was in the 41st Infantry Division in the South Pacific in WW2. Mass was said on the hood of a jeep or on ammunition boxes, and at times hurried as an attack was imminent. An observer could say that it was casual - and rushed.
@@timmoore9736 that’s pretty amazing but most liturgies aren’t in a combat zone so I’d say that’s not pertinent.
We had two staple priests at our parish. One was the official pastor, who was young(er), and the other was the assistant pastor, or simply the other celebrant, who was older. Well, the older one would consistently celebrate mass with Eucharistic Prayer I. Always. Even as a pre-teen, I loved it. My brothers and sisters hated it because it was so much longer. Whenever I would hear a sigh (audibly) from one of my sisters especially, I would be grinning from ear to ear. Those were precious days for me, thanks be to God!!
Prayer I is like TWO whole minutes longer! Jeesh, who can spare that for the Lord of all creation?
I'm 75...on my knees on the floor for Communion on the tongue. I challenge everyone who can do it...or practice to learn to do it. Sends a message.
I am also 75 and walk with a cane. I go down on my one functioning knee and hoist myself back up with the cane. Since I can't fold my hands and do all that, I hold my free hand over my breast. (On Sunday I go to TLM - so alta rrail - kind to old knees. But in the daily NO I have priests chastising me for taking too long, etc. They got a good catechesis from me and I told them as long as I can crawl up to receive Him who walked the Via Dolorosa for me and died for me on the Cross I will do it. One priest, a visitor from Africa said: But doesn't it hurt? All I could say, do you think that Jesus' knees didn't hurt under the weight of my sins? He went very quiet then.
You are my true sister in Christ - let us kneel together before the Divine Majesty and preach in word and especially in deed.
I don't receive Our Lord to "send a message". I seem to recall Christ commenting about the Phaisees and how they "showed" everyone their faith.
St Augustine did Communion in the hand. He explains how to correctly do it in several of his letters.
That's St Augustine............he honors our Lord Jesus far more than you and I, combined.
I challenge you to honor our Lord in communion in the hand as St Augustine prescribed.
The Church allows for both and in the hand came before on the tongue. Learn your Church history and catechism.
And the only message you should send......is to our Lord and our Lord alone
You shouldn't care to be sending a message to the congregation or any human being.
Stop and think about what communion is and what it isn't.
Communion belongs to our Lord and no one else. Its you and our Lord.
Nobody else matters during communion.
@@weissblau You reminded of Eleazar (2 Maccabees 6) who gave his life rather than set a bad example. God bless you! Your preaching by example may be the best message many who witness it receive! 🙏🙏🙏
This change in celebrating Mass is happening in several churches in our Diocese kneelers have returned, communion on the tongue strongly encouraged and Mass Ad Orientem on Solemnities and Feast Days. We receive the Precious Blood only by intinction on special days and only given by Priest or Deacons. These are all wonderful changes and will The True Presence more believable.
What is necessary is to receive him in the state of Grace !
Amen! There are many many people who want and need your points to happen! It would be wonderful! I am seeing the younger new priest doing this and the masses are so much more reverent and beautiful! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The communion in the hand started while I was away at college. I grew up with V2 and learned nothing doctrinal in the “catechism” I got when I could get there. It was held for many years at a Catholic high school 18 miles away at 3:15 on Wednesdays. My school got out at 3:00 and we had only one car which Dad drove to work 2-3 days per week. But even if we did have the car, getting to a 45 minute class 18 miles away in actually less than 15 minutes was impossible. Besides, my father asked about having classes on Sunday afternoon or at the mission chapel we attended. They said no, but it wasn’t necessary except for children preparing for Communion or Confirmation. The same priest told parents at a Communion meeting that parents shouldn’t bring children to confession because we didn’t commit serious sins. It was shown to be psychologically damaging, giving us “guilt complexes.” Wait until Confirmation. My parents were from the Silent Generation. Whatever the priest or nun said, goes. No more questions! What catechism I did get was stories about social justice. And we made banners out of felt, burlap, and rick-rack. As soon as I left home, I stopped going to church. When I came home for Easter break, everyone was sticking out their hands to receive Communion. I did not know It was the literal Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ. I first suspected that in 2003 while at a Baptist church and the pastor read St. John, chapter 6. It’s not that people have LOST the Faith, they weren’t given it in the first place. You can’t lose what you never had.
Get rid of the Sign of Peace in the middle of the Mass! There’s too much commotion! I had it removed from my wedding Mass in 1973!
It could be moved to the very end of the Mass!
@@EdwardKnight-ll5ze the best place is before Mass starts. No need for it to be in the Mass!
It just needs to go. Has it been around since 1973?!
YES PLZ!!!! AND THE LOUD MUSIC
Lets certainly not have peace and love interfere with the show.
Lets also get rid of the asinine sign of peace as well, that has been out of hand for too long.
A lot of churches around me don’t even do it anymore since 2020. People just kind of look around and wave weirdly.
No I don't think you get rid of it, but you move it to before the Gifts. Both Sacred Scripture (Mt 5:23) and Tradition (Saint Justin Marytr's Liturgy from 150 AD) both have it. All the ancient Liturgies have it. I watched a Mozarabic Rite Liturgy the other day on youtube, which was the Form of the Roman Rite in Spain had it in it. In fact, Pope Benedict in Spirit of the Liturgy suggested as much and pointed out that the Catholic Church in Africa actually requested to move it to where Scripture and Tradition indicates it should be and it was approved. Needs to be done for the everyone that uses the 1970 Roman Missal. Now, I may shake a persons hand right next to me, and that is it. More and more people are just giving a nod or a wave as the poster above noted.
@@mpkropf5062 I am not saying go back to the Sacred Kiss done in the 2nd Century according to the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr, who was in fact martyred in Rome (so he would rightfully be considered to be included in the Roman Canon). What I am talking about is the Rite of the sign of peace which is a simple handshake extended to those in the pew next to you that is it. No I don't Kiss my wife in Mass either but I don't get totally upset if a Husband and wife give a respectful Kiss to one another as Catholics are not Puritans. Still, I generally ignore what is going on around me. I hug my wife, shake the hand someone right in front of me in the pew and that is it. (I sit in the back corner with nobody to my right with my wife to my left).
I am talking about the Biblical command from Christ to be reconciled with your Brother before you bring your gifts to the altar and following the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr in substance (sign of peace by hand shake) not in form (the exchanging the Sacred Kiss as He called it (Chapter 65 of his 1st Apologia).
@@mpkropf5062 I am not saying return to the exact form of the Rite of Saint Justin Martyr. The substance of it is fine if done with a simple shaking of the hand with the people just right next to you in the pew.
I don't kiss my wife in Church either, just simple hug for the record and I always sit in the back right corner of the side Chapel in my parish Church and thus have nobody on my immediate Right and only my wife ot my immediate Left.
So I think the Rite is rooted in both the Scriptures and Tradition, but 1) Needs to moved back to before the Gifts, not during the Eucharistic Prayer and 2) done appropriately with reverence.
During the "sign of peace", I bow my head and quietly pray this prayer three times. " May the powerful wind of the Holy Spirit blow throughout the Church and clear out the smoke of Satan". People may think I am being arrogant but that is not my problem. The "sign of peace" feels disruptive.
Make the OFFERTORY VERY CLEAR of what is being offered
What - are you not listening?
Ad orientum = PUT THE TABERNACLE BACK ON THE ALTAR!
And the rEd light
We did. Several years ago.
There were no tabernacles until into the 9th century and it fook another 100 years to get them on the altar.
@@timmoore9736 you can’t do ad orientum if the tabernacle is on a side altar or in another area. Otherwise, the priest and congregation are just facing towards a wall.
AMEN!! We are in a combined parish that used to be three separate ones. With the changing of the guard at the end of June, we got a new pastor. Hoping for some changes - such as placing a Crucifix front and center (the only one we have in one of the churches is the one processed in at the beginning of Mass!) Of course, the Tabernacle is off to the side. Hard to feel that I'm in a Catholic church.
I couldn’t agree more, I feel that the respect towards our lord in mass needs to start from the priest since they are the 1st examples and leaders. I pray 🙏 that proper respect is done and we follow.
This podcast should be standard viewing in every Roman rite parish acriss America. Or the world for that matter.
Definitely agree about here in the US, but not so sure about other countries - especially Africa. Having visiting/missionary priests is getting more and more common in our area and they are consistently more reverent than those born and raised here.
Instead of trying to be like the TLM, how about they just become a TLM
I think it’s going in that direction. 🙏
@@flightattendantangela7248 One drawback is that young priests find the Latin Mass too much trouble to learn so they resist it.
We can have traditional without Latin. I say let's look at the best of both.
@@barbarabyrne1886 Actually a lot of the Younger Priest are pushing to learn and say the Traditional Catholic Mass. It's the 1960's / 70s generation who wanted the "new mass". Read Quo Primum. They never were able to change the Mass.
@@chadwillingham8359 Read Quo Primum.
I’m 68 and would love to receive Holy Communion at the communion rail again. I had both hips replaced and need knee replacement and a rail would make it so I could kneel🙏
God loves you so much
Chalice with first communions, weddings, special masses. We receive all of Christ in the host.
We also receive all of Christ if we simply receive from the Cup. Not sure what your point is.
@@timmoore9736 +JMJ You really don't know much about the history of the liturgy, If you did you would know that the cup was given rarely if ever. The casualness of the NO has led to abuse of the sacred species.
Every occasion of the Mass is special so therefore the chalice should at all times be offered to the faithful
@@brianbacon5149 Jesus said: 'Take this all of you and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me'. A straightforward command from Jesus.
@maddyproctor1443 +JMJ A straightforward command to the Apostles who taught reverent reception of the Most Holy Eucharist. As Successors to the Apostles the Saints, Popes and Bishops have taught that reverence means that receipt of the host from the consecrated hand of a priest on the tongue while the communicant kneels is the ordinary expression of that reverence. Moreover that liturgical practice of 1500 years prevents abuse and desecration of the Most Blessed Sacrament. The Magisterium has interpreted Our Lord's words in accordance with Apostolic Tradition. By stark contrast Protestants take an unschooled literal interpretation of Holy Scripture and treat it as if it were the sole authority which (nowhere in Scripture can be found authority for that erroneous proposition). Pax Domine vobiscum.
Jordan, I am greatly encouraged for the future of the Church because of courageous, well-informed younger Catholics like you. Stay the course!
In our parish in the ‘80s, a priest ordered us to receive in the hand because he thought it was gross to look at a tongue sticking out. Because we are obedient we did what we told. On the tongue has never come back. It’s up to the Bishops to fix this.
If people are kneeling, they are not face to face, so the Priest s not looking directly into the mouth It all fitted together in original,Mass In a beautiful way
@@mariafewster4127 The original Mass was not on the tongue.
That was the same mass that many of the doctors of our church like St Thomas Aquinas St Francis of Assisi and St Therese of Lisieux, Padre Pio defended @@dan_m7774
+JMJ Nobody knows how Communion was received at the First Mass. We do know that Communion was to be received on the tongue as a mandate as early as 878. We also know that St. Thomas Aquinas said that only the consecrated hands of a priest should touch the sacred species. Summa Theologiae Q. 83
Have received on the tongue for decades and will never go back to standing and in the hand where particles of the Host can be dropped on the floor or remain in the hand. Our local novus ordo parishes are offering the kneelers again and one parish has 'as orientem' Masses.
Oh, I’d rather pay to reinstall communion rails than pay for the 5 BIG SCREEN TVs with sound systems we have in our small church that play babbling creeks, ocean waves, flowers during mass.
So so sad.😢
PRAISE BE TO GOD! KEEP PRAYING FOR ALL OUR SHEPHERDS TO ALL BE IN AGREEMENT IN HOW THE EUCHARIST NEEDS TO BE TREATED & RECEIVED BY THE FAITHFULS. IN THE STATE OF GRACE, KNEELING & ON THE TOUGUE 🙏🙏🙏 WE ARE RECEIVING OUR GOD.
So disappointing the last supper was to many here, realizing how casual and unimpressive it was.
Kneeling and on the tongue was nowhere as universal as the proponents of the TLM say (or lie about). We have had a three year Eucharistic revivial, which has been a blessing. But kneeling and on the tongue was not a focus. Christ, Body, Blood, Soul and Dividnity was.
absolutely. AVE MARIA
My church installed an Altar rail and that really encourages Communion on the tongue while kneeling. Everyone going to the altar instead of multiple places around the church is absolutely more reverent and does not take any more time as some impatient people object.
The mass in ad orientum is Extremely beautiful. there is no distraction away from God. Everything is focused on God.
There is no sign of peace, no watching the band to play in the corner of the altar. It feels like just you and Jesus.
In the TLM. Using a patten is a must And Gregorian chant just enhances everything. The traditional latin mass is the mass of almost all hour saints. Why should we change it at all.
Unfortunately, it is extremely hard to fin, and it looks like it will be removed. If that happens, it will definitely break my heart.
The Latin Mass as you know it dates back about 500 years. If you want to soap box about liturgy, at least learn the history of it.
@@timmoore9736thank God for the summit of the mass of all ages, canonised by Pope St Pius X. That is the version we should all be keeping and never changing
Absolutely include in Sunday Mass the Eucharistic prayes in the old 1950" s missals.Also Prayers before Holy Mass from St Thomas Aquinas and or St Ambrose.I have St Andrew 1955 Missal.
With respect Bishop Strickland please change back to the TLM, God bless
We forget that the Holy Mass is the Holy Sacrifice of Christ that he offered himself on the cross. It's not a meal or supper like the lutherans believe.
All revence and respect is due to God especially being at the Holy Sacrifice at the consecration. 🙏🙏🙏🌹
Return to Tradition = becoming (Eastern) Orthodoxy. ☦☦☦
Great, great podcast! I love you, Jordan, and Bishop Strickland. I offered to donate the money for Holy Communion kneelers and I was turned down flat 😭😭 I have since become a member of Father John Brancichs parish. How blessed am I ??
I am an acolyte for my parish in Oregon where we are blessed with a pastor who has overseen the altar being restored from a side chapel to its original position as the high altar. Our vintage cast-iron communion rails were removed in 1965; they have recently been restored as padded wooden kneeling benches. When l began to serve there the girls were mixed in with the boys and everyone wore street clothes. I am properly robed and kneel at the altar’s side steps or at a small kneeler. So? The difference is heartening. The church has come alive again. People are realizing how vital the growing respect for the Eucharist increases the awareness of Christ’s presence within us and among us.
And I hope that girls have the opportunity to serve on the altar as we are all one in Baptism
Thank you good video
I would also include the necessity of saying the Penitential Act. Catholic Answers has a wonderful article on The Top Ten Liturgical Abuses.
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That and regular use incense, at least during procession and at the alter prior to the Eucharistic liturgy.
"pray the rosary every day" --- Our Lady of Fatima --- 1917 -⚔
Which is a very well loved popular devotion. But instead, how about saying the Liturgy of the Hours, wich is the other officeal liturty of the Church?
@@timmoore9736not requested by Our Lady of Fatima. But most certainly a good practice
Ive got a bad back bad knees and 80 years old i still kneel to receive Our Lord
At our Latin mass church i noticed that there is no clock inside. You never know what time it is. Thats an excellent point
Particulalry when the priest can say Mass under 15 minutes.
We need kneelers for sure!!!
Jordan, this is an excellent interview with a wonderful Bishop. Thank you! 🙏🛡️⚜️❤️🔥
4. Discontinue use of EMHC.
AMEN, BISHOP STRICKLAND!💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏😇
I've grown weary of the long list of parish announcements just after having received the Holy Eucharist.
Perhaps if you were involved in the Parish, the announcements would be of importance.
@@dan_m7774maybe for those who can't read parish bulletins... Like the blind and illiterate. But how many are there like that in our parishes? Perhaps you might have special empathy for these minority 😉
@@beatricec9238 One is called to do good works. The announcements are a calling not to just limit your life to a hour and done.
@@dan_m7774 I am involved. Very much so---usher, Dad's Club, Rosary Makers. The announcements, however, can be done before mass or we can be asked to read the bulletin.
@@dan_m7774 +JMJ Oh yes. Active participation. People doing stuff right? Wrong. Active participation means praying the Mass and not doing mindless town hall busy work. That's what the NO has become. It's more like a town hall happy meal. It's no wonder no one goes to the NO anymore.
Live Truth live catholic!!!
No females in ministry of the altars and guidelines for that ministry.
In my parish, all the sacristans except for me are women. Most of the readers are women and almost all the servers (when we have them) are women. The deacon who trained me thanked me for volunteering to be a sacristan at our late morning Mass. He said the ministry of sacristan is proper to men not women. I have been serving in this role for 2 years thus far.
Yes I agree no reverence even in dress code
People don’t realize ingratitude to Jesus who loves us so much in all this no reciprocation
"casual" is an understatement for what has happened. After 45 years, I reconciled myself to the church, having left after the implantation of the Novus Ordo. It was disheartening to walk into the church sanctuary to see that it has lost. People dress so casually you think they were going to attend a picnic instead of receiving the Eucharist. The attendees are holding conversations, texting and completely ignoring what is going on before them at the altar. The mass has become nothing more than a protestant service.
We do all those things in the Ordinariate. It makes all the difference in the world! Also, getting rid of altar girls! The worst thing the Church allowed was altar girls! Implementing those changes will be a start to a new springtime in the Church!
It is saddening to hear your view regarding girls serving on the altar. We are all made in the image of God and are one in our Baptism. Something has gone very wrong if we are denying our girls this wonderful opportunity. God notices these things..
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Hello @Lauren
How are you doing 😊
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Restore The Roman Canon always!
There are many forms of reverence, not only one the trades promote.
We started using a kneeler to receive Holy Communion at Mass now almost every uses it.
The altar rails are the altars of the lay people, and they are gone in most old churches that are up to 900 years old - in Europe.
Divine Mercy mankind’s last and only Hope JESUS CHRIST.
Not too long ago i received communion on my right hand (i didnt use both hands The Priest after the mass asked ask and i answered the Priest himself received on just one hand and i.e. his right as a reverence to our Lord. That happened before i go to TLM mass. Thank God
I love Eucharistic Prayer I ! One section particularly overlooked is the following prayer:
In humble prayer we ask you, almighty God:
command that these gifts be borne
by the hands of your holy Angel
to your altar on high
in the sight of your divine majesty,
so that all of us, who through this participation at the altar
receive the most holy Body and Blood of your Son
This is a reference to Saint Michael's role, which links the Catholic Mass to the Jewish Temple rites. Saint Michael was seen as elevating the temple sacrifices from the earthly Jerusalem Temple to the Temple in heaven, where each sacrifice was carried out simultaneously.
in my humble opinion the language is a bit clunky - but that is only my opinion
Amen! 🙏🏾
I’ve been to hundreds if not over a 1,000 parishes around this country and I’ve never seen a single one that lacked kneelers.
I agree!!
A little comment about communion in both Kinds. I am a convert, evangelical then Anglo-Catholic, then Traditional Catholic. When I was Anglican we had communion in both Kinds, kneeling. I am severely Celiac and this allowed me to communicate. Now I attend a diocesan TLM. I will likely never be able to receive again. It has been ten years and counting... :(
For reasons that I don’t understand, even when kneelers are used, the priests don’t seem to understand that they should stand behind the kneeler and not to the side of of the kneeler.
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We have one Church here where you can choose to stand (hand) or kneel (tongue). They also offer the cup. But then usually the guy with the cup has withdrawn. So either in hand andnyou can have the wine or kneel and no wine. I choose the first option. Always make sure I sit close to the front so I can get a turn on the cup. I alao notice many people just walk past the cup without bowing or noticing. But if N O was good for ONE thing is we can have the cup. Luckily there is ONE Church in driving distance that does it.
At our parish we have the Host and Precious Blood at every mass, Sundays and daily masses. Praise God! As an EM I see reverence and love in many eyes.
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I cant get up from a kneel, so I bow deeply and receive Jesus on the tongue. More people are beginning to do the same!!!!!
Implore your parish to provide kneelers or better s Communion Rail.
I'm sure that God will be very pleased with you. Blessed be God forever!
COVID lockdowns certainly did bring reverence from the Faithful who returned to Mass at some of my local parishes. Some were still fearful for a long time. I can't speak for the ones who simply lost or lacked faith, and never returned to Mass. I don't know where they went. But the young people basically left the elderly parishes to their social distancing and communion in the hand, and went in search of a reverent Mass. We only have one TLM in the area, and it's only 40 minutes up the lake road in summer, depending on traffic for the 8am Mass. Personally, I can't afford the fuel to make that trip, so I go to the most reverent NO I can find that's in affordable distance. And with the influx of new people coming to that church who hunger for the sacred, the priest has been able to respond to parishioner requests to bring back the kneelers. There was no way to install communion rails, so Father had specially made prie-deux made at parishioner request shortly after we were able to return to Mass. People were actually kneeling on the marble floor to receive on the tongue, and Father is young, but I know his back got sore from all the bending. That probably motivated him to get the kneelers made quickly. He's now re-renovating the church building to more like what it was before the wreckovations started in the 1970s. I've known parishioners since long before I began attending after covid restrictions were lifted, and my dad and stepmom were parishioners for a long time in the 1980s-early 1990s, when they moved to a different town. I used to attend with them, and the priest at that time made more changes. The communion rails had been removed long before, and so were the gorgeous statues of Mary and Joseph. Then this new priest in the 198s came in and removed the crucifix, replacing it with a "resurrexifix" or whatever it's called. He said it's Jesus inviting us to take up our crosses. I guess it's inspired by the Franciscan depiction of Jesus lifting St. Francis onto the Cross to receive the stigmata. But according to the GIRM that's not a proper crucifix. And so, on parishioner request, the current Father bought a proper crucifix and statues of Mary and Joseph. Now that the sanctuary is made beautiful again, there is more in progress to restore the former beauty of the nave. Some of the architectural changes from the past can't be undone, but the ones that are beautiful will be incorporated (the baptismal fountain is one of the beautiful changes from the 1990s, and will remain). People have been telling Father it's beautiful, but this past Sunday he preached on the bread of life, and said the beauty is intended to honor the Lord in the Tabernacle, to remind us that there's a King in the building, and He is our Lord.
The Novus Ordo needs to be scrapped. Even using the Roman canon, it is still a watered down version. Go to the TLM for a month, follow along with the English translation and then tell me what you think.
@@MrsAngelala While people poke at the Ordinary Form, most of them have near zero understanding of liturgical history. And having lived through the introduction of the OF, I understand that most have no clues as to the changes - the why, and the where did that come from. I also spent 2 decades slogging through the Mass before the changes, which included two years of high school Latin and two of college Latin and still could not read Latin (nor hear it) as a spoken language. The Ordinary Form will not be scratched; and while Sacrosanctum Concillium did not have chapter, line and verse of the changes to be made, 2,147 bishops of the world voted for it, and 4 voted against it. What was finally promulgated pleased most; some did not like some of the change, and some wanted different changes, and some wanted more. But the vast mj=ajority of bishops in the world suooprt it.
@@timmoore9736 +JMJ The 2147 bishops did NOT vote for the NO as implemented. Archbishop Lefebvre for example voted for SC. He objected wholeheartedly to the NO. Pope Benedict called the NO as implemented a rupture with Tradition. The NO will recede as it is dying out. Only 17% of Catholics attend Mass on Sunday. In Italy which is where the Vatican is located has only 10% Mass attendance. But the clergy in the US and Europe is very gay. That's a result of the NO culture which leads to embracing woke. The historical trend is: Catholic and Apostolic to Protestant to Modern Woke. That's not what the Lord wants. The Mass is central to the Faith. The NO is unCatholic and unApostolic. It has born rotten fruit and wolves in sheeps clothing. The Lord said trees bearing rotten fruit would be cut down. Wolves will be exposed.
Please check it out. Communion on the tongue is what is part of the Church. Communion in the hand is tolerated. St JP 2 DID NOT WANT COMMUNION IN THE HAND. He was disobeyed.
Truth has a face, Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.
I receive holy communion on my knees, and on my tongue 🙏🙏🙏
Question. Which parish did you attend in KC? We live in KCMO.
Great interview and I like the insight about all the little things that are news for all of us that were poorly Catechized over the last several decades… removal of the watch for example.
Sometimes the clock or the watch is because there maybe another mass scheduled right after with a small window in between
We are very fortunate to attend a parish in Arizona 🌵that the priest have effected a hybrid of a Mass between NO and Traditional. Kneelers installed, some Latin chant and responsorial and rosary before every mass.
It is more likely that you have the Ordinary Form, with part of the Mass in Latin, The two Forms do not lend themselves to a blending and that would be a liturgical abuse. But saying aprt of the Ordinary Form in Latin (or Greek) is perfectly acceptable.
@@timmoore9736 Well that is your opinion. Remember the Jews were too much about form and every little detail and not about heart. Life long practicing Catholic and I like what I experience in our hybrid Mass. The holier than thou attitude I get from some Trads is noticed. Have a great day 🕊️
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Wow just loved the video and all the beautiful explanations, so am I to understand that the bishop is back to his duties? This would be great news. So all disciplinary actions have been dropped ? Sorry I just did not get the good news . Where can I go to see this ? God bless you both 🙏🙏🙏
I would be interested in the Bishop's opinion of the Eucharist being offered in both species together in the Byzantine Divine Liturgy.
1:45 all of these things are contained in the other Eucharistic canons.
I love the Roman Canon, but it seems EP IV is overlooked so much. My God, that is a beautiful Anaphora, almost EXACTLY the anaphora of St. Basil. I wish that preface/EP could be used more broadly.