The Most Overrated Things About Each MMA GOAT
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- In this video I discuss the most overrated and overhyped things about the greatest MMA fighters of all time. Although each of the fighters that I discuss in this video are special, there are minor criticisms of their careers that I want to discuss. I talk about Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, Khabib, Alexander Volkanovski, GSP, and Mighty Mouse. Let me know what you think in the comments.
#ufc #mma
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:53 Jose Aldo
7:05 GSP
11:49 Demetrious Johnson
15:16 Anderson Silva
19:13 Jon Jones
24:39 Alexander Volkanovski
28:18 Khabib Nurmagomedov - Спорт
Jones really was ahead of his time. Weight cutting to death, eye poking and robbing opponents. He was the first modern mma fighter
Lol blah blah blah undefeated
Robbing opponent ? He only lost to dominick reyes . Only 1 fight , calm down casual 😂 .
one of the greatest UFC cheaters if not the best the sad part part about it all is that he didn't even need to cheat in order to beat most of the people he won against he is extremely naturally gifted!
@@user-nv7xq7cl9yhow he used to weigh 170 😭
Goat
This still does not change the fact that Anthony Smith's individual skillsets on paper are better than Jon Jones' skillsets. 50-45 Lionheart.
Smith made a fatal error in negotiations by agreeing to have the fight in an octagon instead of on a large sheet of paper where he would've R1 KOed Jon. Rumor has it Jon's corner wiped sweat off him between rounds with a paper towel, and that caused the cognitive dissonance that made him throw the illegal knee, so paper still almost won the title for Smith if he took that DQ.
STOP ATTACKING HIS FAMILY
Couldn’t have said it any better 😂😂lionheart on paper p4p1
Ive lost all hope. The world fucking THRIVES on stupidity its insane
Smith didn’t take the DQ win because Jon wasn’t attacking his family
I love how Lucas is either criticizing/hating or glazing no in between 😭
He only got 3 modes ong
He did say he never fence sits
@@ultragear207 lmao truee, his passionate hating/glazing is why I love his channel
That's why we love Lucas 😂
King of hyperbole
Lucas got accused of glazing so much he had to go full hater for 32 minutes
lol he still glazing tho
Saying gsp second belt is overrated but not jj while gsp beat a guy with 20 ufc wins who's been a champ with a title defense when jj beat a one dimensional fighter who's never been champ and was 1-1 in his last two is crazy
100% agree
Bisping blatantly ducked Romero, Whittaker, Mousadi, and Jacare. 45 year old Henderson made it an extremely competitive when Henderson was ranked 15th. Gane was atleast a prime no.1 contender when Bisping wasn't even the best MW on the planet when Whittaker and Romero were taking years off their lives in their fights
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 and now what is jones tryna do, duck aspinall to fight an old out of prime stipe
@@singhisbling9385 yeah its BS. A win over an old stipe does nothing for Jones' legacy
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 thats what happens when ur already a big star and have established a name for urself i guess
But where does Benoit Saint Denis fit into all of this
We all know he’s one win away from entering Lucas’ top 10 all time
😂😂😂😂😂💯💯
Saint Denis will get tucked in and put to sleep by Dustin. Lucas forgot who he is
@@DOOM-kronicills Lucas indeed forgot who Dustin was lol
Lol
He is the goat on his list 😂
The Aldo age thing seems cherry-picked. He had been fighting for over 15 years at age 33.
Lucas completely ignores mileage
@@afonsodealbuquerque1879 According to him Cody Garbrandt is in his prime, since he is 31, right?
@@afonsodealbuquerque1879 but many other fighters who do have their prime later also have mileage that goes way back, even if they had not entered the ufc yet. Perhaps it hits different people differently.
@@felipearaujo9673Cody's chin is worse than Aldo's and Aldo was beating people in bantamweight
I doubted his take on that one but it makes sense
why tf would he have some success at bantamweight when he's been finished in featherweight?
the answer is that he was just beaten by better fighters at featherweight
Lucas also retroactively forgot WEC days where Aldo was the GOAT for nearly 3 eras of MMA. He’s been fighting the best for those years.
Brother GSP came back after FOUR YEARS (which nobody has done and won) WENT UP IN WEIGHT at 36 (the age when everybody else is losing) and beat a Bisping that had already beat Anderson Silva
That’s also a Bisping that’s inarguably the worst champion in UFC and in the weakest division that nearly died to Oldman Henderson.
That’s not an Impressive win.
@@darkclaw1462 i think bispings overhated. He kod rockhold when rockhold was the fucking man. rockhold had beat a prime weidman, jacare, and lyoto machida at that point. bispings henderson preformance wasn't as bad as ppl make it out to be. he got hurt early on by 2 hbombs and then recovered in the later rnds. its not like henderson was that washed either he was making fights very close with some of the best mws in his 40s. and i wish lucas mentioned that bispings gastelum loss was on 3weeks notice after getting finished by gsp.
And when he beat Rockhold he was a pretty tuff middleweight at that time. He beat a declining but still dangerous Spider. I'd also be willing to bet GSP was one of the few who didn't use drugs. He was always the same,no big decline.
@@darkclaw1462you dont know mma or ufc if you think Bisping with a pretty good record is the worst champion in ufc history, please go look at all the champions in ufc history and come back.
Not gonna lie, you had to be there for Anderson Silva to understand just how fucking incredible he was. Going back and rewatching doesn't do it justice.
“You just had to be there bro”
Agree! This review is recency bias to the core and casual asf! Watch silvas pride and fights man against vitor, hendo, griffin ffs
Silva is Def top 5 but Jon's still the 🐐... #1. Jon #2. GSP #3. Silva #4. Mighty mouse #5. Stipe
@@bigchilling654😂😂
Anderson Silva had amazing fights. But he also failed for USADA late in his career. And his resume is pretty awful. His best win is against TRT Belfort, but a lot of his other fights were just not against elite fighters. Volkonovski has the best resume and best record of any UFC fighter in history. Because he has 3 wins against Max Holloway, and Max is one of the best fighters on Earth. GSP's resume is questionable, and his fight with Hendricks was pretty awful.
Khabib had the most gradual, pampered beginning in history of the sport. His record is that of a modern boxer. Fighting absolute bums for 15 fights just to pad his record. His 15th fight was against a guy making a debut. But to his credit, he kept improving and stayed above his competition at the pinnacle of the career. But man, he's lucky that the skill curve he faced wasn't as steep as for your average fighter, he would've definitely lost. Even in his early ufc fights, bro's striking was male equivalent of ronda rousey.
Also a boulder chin
Islam is literally tied with khabib of being goat one more title defense and he surpasses him in my opinion. And if he can win a welterweight belt I would put Islam in top 3 goat
Imagine what GSP would have done to him.
Your kinda right but so cringe and forced man
@@YonathanGetachew-nt2td Islam is better than khabib now. Beating volk and Charles is greater than anything khabib has ever got.
With aldo he’s old in fight terms his a true definition of a veteran, been around forever in the wbc, been through so many wars, there’s a reason was still at the top of Bw in his older days he never was washed just delt with other elites, gotta respect him a true legend of the sport
Was gonna say this exact same thing, Aldo started fighting when he was like 14 years old, started fighting pro at 16. By the time he was 30 he had so many miles on his body. His argument doesn't carry much weight because he's basically just saying "Well Aldo was still winning fights against good fighters" and yeah he was, but there's a massive difference between beating the best of the best and beating good to great fighters.
aldo was king at beating grapplers/wrestlers, but he lost to EVERY elite striker he faced, thats how i see him
@@ahwmahwm5533so Jeremy Stephen’s who beat the shit out of Josh emmet is a bad striker? And don’t say Josh emmet sucks cause you have a guy who’s fighting for the tittle just cause he beat him
@@Maeno34 not elite
Also, he took a lot of CTE early in his career
Aldo was fighting for 11 years & had 9 fucking title defenses b4 he lost 2 conor
I can't stand his Aldo disrespect. He only does it because he has a crush on Volk. He was too young to be around for Aldo, so he just ignores that history of the sport. Such a frustrating take to watch someone with a big audience spread like that.
MMA Geniuses apparently
Aldo best wins are against chade and fabar lol. He fought once a year for a decade, got destroyed by Conor, max, Alex. Overrated
never understood the aldo hype - he might have been really good that was before all the goats came into the UFC or got the chance to fight him.
UFC has become increasingly popular in recent years - so now all the top fighters want to join, before...
@@thialhoinj1971 again.. NINE title defenses b4 he lost to conor but sure it sounds bad when u only list his losses lol
God this guy kills me. Bisping that chinned Rockhold? Bisping that beat Silva after an illegal knee?
Chinning Luke isn’t impressive lmao
@@hydra_filmzat the time who else was doing that tho nobody
@@ghostsploge8488 vítor did it
The knee was legal
bisping is one of the worst champs male UFC has ever had he ducked his prime contendors and got smoked by the best guy he fought plain and simple
that shoul not detract from GSP but its a fact Bisping is worse than his fellow champs
Congrats on Jon jones for beating the I beat my wife allegations thanks to Lucas Tracy 👍
Lamee 😂
Lucas, the trilogy between Volk and Max was dominant. Just because Max was throwing some shots and hanging in there doesn't mean it was close. Matter of fact, each round Volk landed more and more on Max and the final round in significant strikes was Volk 50 to Max's 19.
max only won 2-3 rounds imo in the whole trilogy out of 15 rounds
@@carloslemusjr FACTS…first and third fight were easy 50-45’s for Volk…in the second fight Max won 2 rounds imo…makes it 13-2 overall rounds in the favor of Volk
Max won the second fight
@@cesare4926nope
@@cesare4926 Volk 3,4,5
Not to mention that Poirier, McGregor, and Barbosa used to be featherweights; Khabib had to call off a fight with Tony Ferguson because he cut too much to get to 155. So he was a big 155er
he wasnt big or strong at 155 just had a tough cut because most of his weight is pretty much bone mass and that giant ass skull. he didnt really have an unfair advantage going into the cage
his frame is 155, he is too small for 170, that's the lamest criticism ever lol.
@bmmjg The weight bully argument is dumb usually unless it’s on the extreme ends like when Rumble missed 11 lbs & fought Belfort.
both poirier and McGregor weighed more on fight night than Khabib (but like 1 pound or something; so effectively the same) and they look no smaller in terms of frame or height.
@@aqm776he's not small for 170 at all 💀
Khabib is more fit for 155 yes
but BJ Penn, a former featherweight who's 5'6 was GSP's hardest win in terms of technicality
Matt Serra was similar height and weight as BJ
Gilbert Burns comes from lightweight, is shorter than Khabib and dominates 170ers
Fucking RDA, a smaller guy Khabib beat had success at 170
The Anderson Silva disrespect is outrageous.Vitor Belfort,Forrest Griffin,Dan Henderson,Carlos Newton Rich Franklin Damian Maia etc
He won a round against a prime Izzy and Cormier at 40 years old. Number 2 if Dan Henderson and Vitor aren’t top 30 wins you have a weak top 30.
Yeah this fool Is hating.
@@MikeyLee559nope he just has unbiased truthful takes. You fools are too used to people agreeing with the safe takes all the time, I like this guy because he has his own opinions and doesn’t let the masses sway his thinking.
The biggest the flaw in Lucas’s argument about Jose Aldo is he doesn’t take into account his fight time/miles.. by the time he fought Conor, he was already 12 years deep into fighting and had 26 pro fights..
I think you and most people tend to underestimate DJs competition. They were good it's just that DJ was so much better than them he made them look like cans. I don't think it's a coincidence that as soon as he left the UFC the division started to "pop off" and become more competitive. DJ didn't have the luxury of Jon to beat former champs and names cus he was the 1st ever champ and reigned for so long.
its not a luxury to fight tough opponents and walk through, it is however a luxury to beat cans and be ranked beside guys like jones
@@bmmjg guys like Jon picogram jones 💀💀
It's only me that thinks that Islam has already surpassed Khabib ??
agreed, beating oliveira who actually has a ground game and beating volk twice and koing him once is already better than conor, poirier, gaethje.
i also think islam is far more well rounded
@@zzc787 Absolutely, and I know that a fight between the two is never going to happen, but if it did, I see them pretty much nullifying each other on the ground. However, Islam's striking is miles ahead of Khabib's.
@@rodrigorodrigues2820 couldn’t agree more.
honestly excited for islams future because i think he can go far, i reckon he can even be considered in the goat convo in a couple years from now especially if he becomes double champ.
These were some of the guys khabib fought before coming to the UFC.
- Ramazan Kurbanismailov (1 X World Kickboxing Lightweight Championship Gold Medalist
1 x Combat Jiu Jitsu Cup Of Kiev Lightweight Championship Bronze Medalist
1 x World Combat Jiu Jitsu
Welterweight Championship Gold Medalist
1 x Russian Combat Sambo Lightweight Championship Gold Medalist)
- Shamil Abdulkerimov (Kudo World Champion)
- Eldar Eldarov (Combat sambo world champion, BRAVE Champion)
- Shahbulat Shamhalaev
(Muay Thai World Champion, Bellator Tournament Winner) - Hamiz Mamedov (Combat sambo world champion, beat Khabib in sambo) -Alexander Agafonov (World Champion in pankration, European champion in pankration)
- Ali Bagov (4 Russian national grappling titles, UWW/FILA jiu-jitsu champion, ACA Champion)
Many of these guys finished with great records in mma as well. The taxi driver comment is a myth made up by Conor fanboys to diminish khabibs legacy. If they were all cans, shouldn't khabib have gotten exposed once he came to the UFC. How come he dominated the best fighters in the UFC just as easily
Islam has taken way more risks already and has many more impressive wins, Khabib doesn't have the longevity to be the goat, he never proved that he could sustain being 8 time champion like GSP. You'd just be assuming that he could never loose, well we can see how in the first fight with Volk how easily you can have bad fights and maybe loose. He also ducked Tony in his prime who people forget how good he used to be before his knee injury.
Dude this is probably the reason why you are one of the best MMA content creators out there and is the fact that you come up with really cool original video ideas that keep the content fresh and interesting. It is polemical but with a reason, not just for the sake of being politically incorrect, plus you are doing it respectfully. Great work man!
No one will ever look as amazing as Silva. Because he stayed around too long its harmed his legacy (which is something I never understood). Prime Silva was the nearest thing we will ever see to a ninja in the cage. People forget he was the best in the ufc for like 10 years and still holds so many records. Also to answer your critique of Silva , you can only beat the level at the time, by your logic every 10-15 years the GOAT list will need to be wiped.
Also I just still can't put Khabib in my top 5. Defended the belt 3 times and he won the thing from Al Iaquinta? He COULD have become the goat but he simply hasn't done enough. There guys here with 11,12,13 title defenses.
That's the problem with goat lists, especially when people don't account for the quality of the time of those fighters like Lucas does.
But Silva was fighting at the same time as GSP and Jones but his resume is way worse. His division was just weaker. You can say that’s not his fault but it’s a fact and that fact makes it hard to definitively call him the GOAT.
@@mrmoonlight1001 Silva wanted to fight GSP and he wanted none of it.
@@devanman7920 yeah fight a guy who is 4 inches taller and about 40 pounds bigger, what an easy task for GSP.
@@velos8899 he fought Bisping? Same size as Anderson pretty much and if I believe right Anderson was gonna do down to close to 170 for it
the gsp win is actually impressive if u take into account he got ulcerative colitis the morning of the fight
Bro and he got abducted by aliens
Thats where he was for 4 years. @@62ZAKA
@@62ZAKAwho gave him the ulcerative colitis. Through anal probe most likely.
Bisping literally qualified for disability & shouldn’t have been medically cleared, watching that fake ass title fight was like watching Belfort vs Holyfield.
I think it's funny that gsp and jones both won via robbery before taking a break, coming back, and beating a guy who just happened to be an easy way to the title in a higher division
Well, at least with GSP we can take comfort that he robbed a roided up Hendricks, so in a karmic way that balances out :p
@richardsantosgarcia8972 GSP was literally against USADA, that’s the main reason he left for 2 years & pissed himself scared when Condit wanted USADA testing
@@DADRB0B55 Thanks for the piece of trivia, but, what does that have to do with what I said?
@B55 What are you talking about GSP was advocating for harsher drug testing and was not happy with USADA poor testing when they first came to the ufc
@@DADRB0B55you trippin GSP wanted stricter drug tests. He says in multiple interviews that he wanted to get tested before the Hendricks fight and Hendricks declined
Bro said Max vs Volk 3 was kinda competitive 💀…dude the best you can give to Max is 1-2 good minutes at best…he wasn’t even close to win a single round of that fight…it was not competitive
True but max def won the first 2
@@masonedward6084 No he didn’t?🤨 the second fight could be up for a debate but if you say he won the first fight pls never watch MMA again…it was a clear 50-45 for Volk…he outstruck Max every round…even on mmadecisions nobody gave the fight to Max
@@donchi1234 I don't know what fight you watches your scorecard implies that Volk wiped the floor with Max and that wasnt the case.
The score card was 48-47, you do know it went to decision.
@@TheKronicspider first fight wasn’t as big of a whooping as the 3rd but Volk clearly won every round…one judge gave it to Volk 50-45 like it should be…I just can’t imagine how could you give Max 2 rounds
@sicknezz7138 you mention the most lob sided card not only out of the 3 judges, the other 2 had it at 48-47. But also all the media scorecards, who all pretty much had it unaminosly at 48-47 or 49-46.
You cherry pick the worst card of the bunch to fit your narrative. No more to say, since youre here to push your narrative with little to no objectiveness.
Khabib is not part of the goat convo padded record overrated as fuck
😂😂😂
? @@dumbnerdalienthekid6157
Most boring 1 dimentional fighter the ufc ever saw.
Fighting fighters making their debute at 0-0 while he was allready 12-0
Btw his dad was cherry picking his fights because he was running the show over there in dagastan.
How can such a boring 1 trick pony be even considerd goat, not even in the top20 of title defences and only fought 3, maybe 4 elite fighters who none of them could wrestle...
And volk is? lmao. Khabib never got knocked out 2 times in a row that's for sure. Khabib is the goat of his division, that's for sure. Khabib dominated the most competitive division by a mile, thats for sure. And he def didn't need to poke eyes or take Turinabol to win fights that's for sure. He's in the top 5 for me, not goat, but not as bad as people make him out to be. If any of you watched during the 2018-2020, nobody thought Khabib would lose, even tony the only guy who had a chance to beat him wasn't anywhere near his level
@@yehiak8711 volk has more defences and fought a bigger man 🤡 unlike kebab
These arguments against Anderson Silva‘s greatness, never add up. He didn’t fight good competition? We only consider it not good competition because he dominated them and made it look easy. Who is he supposed to fight? These were the other best fighters in the whole fucking world at the time, so what, is he supposed to go to another planet to find better competition? if he’s beating everybody that’s put in front of him and all the top contenders, just because they don’t have a big enough name and aren’t as popular, doesn’t make it less of an accomplishment. You also mentioned James Irving who was actually at 205, along with Forest Griffin, and Stephan Bonner, and he finished Stefan Bonner way quicker and in more devastating fashion than Jon Jones did. If you count those three light heavyweight fights, and the one with Travis Lutter, who missed weight and add them to his title defenses he still holds the record, and he shouldn’t be punished just for being man enough to go up in weight like Jon Jones took six years to do and dodged Francis Ngannou, or anybody that would be a threat to him.
saying the competition was not as good does not mean he is blamed for it like he should have found better opponents. It'ss not about ''being punished'', it just is what it is. And the argument obviously wasn't about poopularity, it was about skill.
Strongly disagree with your discrediting of Demetrious Johnsons win over Tim, first of all Tim Elliott won and defended the Titan FC belt twice after getting cut then went on TUF, Tim also won a season of TUF which had Brandon Moreno, Alexandre Pantoja and Kai Kara-France on it. Tim also finished Matt Schnell on TUF who is currently ranked and is still giving tough fights to prospects and contenders today.
Recently got into MMA your content has helped me learn a lot and is very entertaining. Keep up the great work Lucas
Thank you!
let me give you an advice since you're new to this, never engage with the mma fans, just watch fights and stay away from them, you will enjoy this sport a lot that way.
@@Youssef-hd5bla lot of fighter have become muddied in my opinion cus of the fan bases they produce
@@Youssef-hd5blcringe
@@Youssef-hd5blarguing with mma idiots is one of the best parts of this sport
To be fair the reason Silva struggled against Chael was because he had an injured rib prior to the fight and wasn't Chael on something for that fight?
lucas casual wont know though tho
And chael never lost a round
Pretty sure silva was on smth as well i mean he popped too
Silva was also juiced up though so I wouldn't take Chael juicing into consideration. Rib injury I didn't know though
Chael absolutely sucks, such a journey man. I'm tired of people telling chael jokes
Not only did Jones not beat an Undefeated Gane, he beat a guy who was beaten and exposed by a guy who was fighting on one leg *Francis*
yeah
GSP's win on Busping is way better than Jones' win on Gane
Game maybe has the better resume
but Bisping has decent striking and of course better grappling than Gane (which is a low bar😂)
Bisping is also way way tougher than Gane
Bisping (👁️)had a war with GSP and didn't even tap, Gane tapped in one round
@@OliverOils Bisping is definitely more well rounded, not a win I would hold up highly considering he wasn't truly the best in his division when GSP fought him for the belt, but a better win than Gane he was.
As for Gane having a better resume, I actually disagree, He doesn't have Blaydes, Almeida, Tom, Stipe, Sergei, his biggest name on his resume is JDS who was way past it and had already lost his chin, other than that, Lewis and Tuivasa, 2 brawlers.
Lucas idk what your smoking because Volk vs Holloway 3 was really not competitive, Volk schooled Holloway and by the end of the last round wasnt even tired and left Max looking like he got hit by a truck
Exactly my thoughts 😂…dude just wanted to say something about Volk cuz it doesn’t make sense at all…Max barely won a few minutes of that fight…let alone rounds
He’s just saying max has more moments than people like to think which is true lol
Max did have moments though. He didn't win a round but he was landing a good amount in the later rounds just look at the stats
What Lucas meant is that Max was a tough out and could kick Volks ass in a street fight
@@heresthethingyouguysw-what
I don't understand how you can bring up GSP ''losing'' to Hendricks, when Hendricks was literally juiced to the gills, and went on a huge downward spiral the moment USADA came. Not to mention its a far closer fight when you judge it to the actual score rules, not just damage
Lucas you forgot to mention how Jones has sat on the couch for 6 years of his career 12 year career😂
Dude Tim Elliot earned that title shot. Do you not remember how much talent there was that season? Multiple champions were on that cast
volk did clearly dominate tho
max was in it but volk was just doing better by far
Was gonna say, Max was kinda surviving whilst Volk was pulling away since the first round??
cant you tell hes doing it on purpose, as if they only bad thing he could possibly say about volk was the holloway 3 fight. such bs
Anderson Silva koed Dan Henderson, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin etc and Lucas says they’re all plumbers
Silva submitted Henderson but I agree with what you're saying. Silva fought a bunch of tough opponents
Griffin wouldn’t even make it into the 😮ufc today..not even in prime condition
@@BiggieTrismegistus ah yea forgot that the front kick wasn’t the end of the fight
@@danieljacot3083 Forrest beat legends like Rampage, Chael, Tito and Shogun, you’ve got it all wrong mate
@@willavery5124 Tito and rampage wouldn’t make today’s roster…even in their primes. Tito was total trash compared to a mid tier fighter today
Why isn't Fedor and Matt Hughes on this list?
I think this guy's too much of a casual for PRIDE
You never fail to come up with creative topics for discussion
That's it lucas you're getting the oil
Great point about Johnny Hendricks. A clear loss. With that in consideration it would be very interesting how he should be ranked
The more MMA content I watch the more I realise that NO fighters are actually good. Everyone is okay or bad, at best
Lol a 2008-2014 Jose Aldo beats any FW in their prime.
Also a very good topic for the video!
Is it only me that thinks Islam is on the verge to becoming the goat, he has a very strong chance
Imaginr if he defends the lightweight belt 4 more times and then moves up to welterweight and gets that title and defends it twice. He is goat then imo.
Shogun was past his prime by the time he fought jones, his knees were done for.
Jones the man who used steroids and eyepokes in 90% of hi fights and his delusional fanbase calls him GOAT 😂
You are delusional
I was looking for a video to watch.
No mention of how Tibau was juiced up?
Decisions can be dominant. With Khabib, part of his dominance is that he was almost never truly in danger or hurt.
Gsp most impressive thing isn't beating Michael bisping its the rematch with matt hughs in my opinion and on your goat list u had him 15th matt Hughes hadn't been beat outside of bj at the time and was still considered the goat
this mf treating Hughes like he was a bum, shit got me mad lmao
Bro i follow you from Swizerland (even if i m french) for many months. I love yiur comment and you are with Guru one of my favorite mma analysts channels.
We know that if we go to your channel or guru one, we will hear a different voice , analisis and approach that those made on mainstream media espa
n, ariel etc.).
All the best !
Ps: and
As the french nationamist/lover/monarchist or patriot that i am, you discovered and talked about Benoit Saint Denis waaay before the others !
Dudee the thumbnail is so legendary
This guy has the worst takes
I get ur argument on Tim Elliot with DJ but they literally did the same thing for Matt Serra and GSP and Matt beat GSP... TUH consisted of champs from different other orgs and Tim won it so give him a little respect in that regard
Jones has the most overrated resume, Silva has the most overrated ability. This is undeniable.
stop embarrassing yourself !
L take 🤨
Stop trolling
100% agree
He literally beat the most champions in UFC history 💀
Lucas, what was a bigger robbery in your opinion Johnny Hendrix against GSP? Or Dominic Reyes against Jon Jones?
Where the hell is the Dominic Reyes documentary dude?
What's to see? He lost 6 in a row and is going to be cut soon
@@ADHD55it's an interesting story, how do you go from in the eyes of a lot of fans beating one the goats to completely falling off a cliff, how tf does that happen
@bewaremycurse it's a tale as old as time, you almost had it then lose everything, the man is a former shell of himself , I don't want to see him keep getting knocked out. But we have one fight that's in mma history... I think his career will be remembered at least..
@@bewaremycursengl
Lucas' documentaries are the worst part of his channel 😂
if there was like a MMA documentary tier list, Lucas' "documentaries" would barely even qualify as one
it's almost no different from his normal videos. It just has more visuals
Personally i think PEDs were a factor but he never failed so whatever but to be fair to Aldo the argument that he was no longer in his prime was not about age it was about damage taken he was literally one of if not the best kickers at the time and he just stopped throwing kicks most likely because he couldn't anymore, Volk started late but look at guys like Rory Macdonald who started very young by the time he was 30 his best days were behind him
How come you didn’t include chael sonnen? Tbh I understand kinda hard to find something to critique him on
Good ass video just found your channel.
You could mention how much slack did UFC cut for Jones, meanwhile they wanted to ban Diaz for 5 years for weed
The UFC didn't ban Diaz. NSAC did. They're two different things.
This guy is a huge casual
Damm, many hot takes I don’t always agree with. I like this man’s style of not being on the fences 😅
Was it that the fighters just weren’t that good or that the greats were just that good? 🤔
Lucas you was not watching MMA when GSP was on top, you wasnt even watching when Jon Jones was on top, you recently found this community, dont talk about history of MMA please.
Your Aldo takes are terrible as usual. Aldo was not out of his prime becasue he was 30, it was because he had 15+ years of MMA miles on him by the time he faced Max. You managed to take one of his greatest accomplishments (beating elite bantamweights while out of his prime) and turned it into an argument against him? Cmon. Aldo is top 6 at worst and a pioneer of MMA defence, boxing and perfected leg kicking in modern MMA. I recommend everyone to read Ryan Wagner's article on Aldo's career at the FightSite.
Thanks for the comment.
so if anything he would've been better but he got shit on
slowly thinking this is the better of the mma commentry channels. at least we have real opinions and not regurgitated content like the other terrible channels. plus lucas doesn’t sound like a robot. 😂 nice to see some different content still round the ufc community.
tellin' the cold hard truth, i love it Tracey!
I have to disagree with you saying Silva didnt have any great wins , Beating Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen x2,Yushin Okami, Damien maia , and Forrest Griffin and Rich Franklin x2 which both were champions were great wins for that era
Your mma history knowledge is lacking dawg 😂 you cant compare different generations of the sport either thats just stupid
Alright fellas, its bout time lucas gets oiled up
I'll hold him down you get the oil
@@kieran6417 🧴🧴🧴
Silva not even making the thumbnail lesgo.
I met Bisping twice. He is huge. I'm 6' tall and weighed at the time 220lbs in great shape.
He was significantly bigger than me.
I met GSP once. He is tiny. I made him look small.
I am a huge GSP fan. I think his win over Bisping is significant.
Johnny Hendricks did more damage to GSP, but GSP won 3 of the five rounds. And that's how MMA is scored. If it was scored differently, GSP arguably would have fought differently.
To this day I seriously don’t understand how people consider Aldo vs Marlon Moraes a “robbery”. Watching it live I scored it for Marlon and I watched it back and still scored it for Marlon. I feel like people who call it a robbery haven’t watched the fight back or just aren’t being objective because they wanted Aldo to get the 135 belt
Based
Jones was young, even with his size advantage he lacked experience at the time
Aldo was in a motorcycle accident and didn't throw as many leg kicks if I'm recalling correctly
Going to be honest id just do no music from now on
The fact that Anderson wasn’t in the thumbnail, I’ll never sub.
Mileage > Age. The Aldo argument doesn’t hold water
I love how fanboys of a certain fighter just decide when their prime ends. All their wins are "prime" version of that fighter and then they finally meet their match and lose and suddenly the wear and tear has caught up to them 😂.
Name of beat at 4:00? I’m about to write a banger
If Jose Aldo isnt the featherweight GOAT then Dominick Reyes is the light heavyweight GOAT.
Greatest of all time doesnt mean best of all time, Volk cant be considred the featherweight GOAT until he gets 9 title defences.
If we're talking only Ufc that's 7 defences.
@@nkosinathinathi304 We're not. UFC didn't have a featherweight rank, all the best fighters in the world were in the WEC at the time.
to counter the critique about khabib i would say that his protegé (islam) proved that he have could dealt with charles and volk. islam learned many things from khabib and if we believe what the people say around them than even islam got his ass handed to him by khabib.
I can't overstate this enough, im going to bed after this smoke
This about to be a LT classic
don’t let this distract you from the fact Lucas said volk could beat bud crawford, also compared volk on the mic to chael
He said he wouldn't get finished by Crawford
@@samurwin9250 he said he could be competitive
Crawford is a boxer. Volk would finish him.
@@silentassassin423He said Volk would go to distance with Crawford in a boxing match.
@@nkosinathinathi304 you gotta be a crackhead to say something like that
Regarding Khabib's resume.
Isn't Justin Gaethje an elite defensive wrestler?
Going into the fight, Justin was confident that Khabib would never get a takedown on him, because his wrestling history he never got taken down. I haven't looked into his wrestling history, but that's what he said going into the fight.
Justin has bad submission game, but my impression is that he is an elite wrestler with devastating striking, but Khabib was able to take him down and manhandle him all the same.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
No
His initial takedown defense is really good but he's not good at scrambles and chain wrestling like an Usman, Darisuh, or Gamrot. Also his non existent submission game really brings down his grappling as whole. He's only fought 2 grapplers in his whole UFC career. Firmino gave him a hard time in the grappling even though it was a young Justin, he still made it extremely competitive.
there was a lot of talk before their fight about "hes never faught anyone with hands that has this good of take down defence as justin" but they feel differently now but they were def saying that a lot before their fight
@@keithromero7181 "no" what? Justin is a self-proclaimed defensive wrestling expert and got taken down by Khabib with ease and swiftly got submitted shortly afterwards.
I love watching the battle between Muslims and UFC fans over Khabib😂😂
“Just won that previous minute” that’s wild 😂
one more critique of Khabib is that he wasn't as active as we remember
he had a long lay off when RDA was champion and then when he came back, he fought some dude making his ufc debut 💀
stopped watching after gsp
"tooth and nail" Rewatch that fight man, Yan beat the absolute brakes off Aldo
Aldo did great in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th
I was ready to flame you for Aldo but you laid out a hard truth that changed my mind
People are not saying aldo is better than volk, the thing is that he accomplished a bit more as a martial artist so that puts him higher on the goat list.
And leg kick Aldo was arguably on the same skill level as Volks striking. That would've been a great fight prime v prime
Once again, for some reason Artem Lobov is left out of these GOAT discussions. Just so disrespectful.
Feeling the same way about GM3
@@THEPINAPPLEABLE Absolutely no respect shown by this freakin’ casual. No Darren Elkins either? What a JOKE.
the more i watch this guy the worst his takes get.
Haha 😆
Facts I might unsubscribe, his takes have been absolutely horrrendous
seems like he said something you didn't like to hear about your favorite fighter. he will say something you like from time to time, so just stick around.
Which takes in this video were wrong?This is one of the first times he's been really accurate in a video.
@@eldgepollard5906 you’re right this video is a bad example but watch his other recent videos, his takes are awful
abt 3 of the names you listed that elliot isn’t the caliber of were also on that tuf episode and the point was for champs from other promotions to fight for a chance for the belt in the ufc
As a fan of Volk, DJ and GSP this was painful at times
Considering Renan Barao isn't on this list shows that guys on this list will be forgotten. Renan was Khabib before Khabib (and before TJ stopped him)
Literally no clue who that is so you are correct. Was this a ufc fighter? What weight class?
@@blakenilsen9852He started 0-1 and then went on a 30 fight winstreak but a majority of those wins were in Brazilian promotions, he came to the UFC and won a bunch of fights the lost to dillashaw and went on a massive skid.
A khabib with an L is not Khabib
The way Barao vanished after losing to Dillashaw was wild. He was a big deal prior to that.
Dawg really snuck Volk in there like we won’t notice 😂😂😂
He's better than Aldo
I think Jon’s worst quality is the fact that when ever his fight got tough u fought dirty
Lucas actually spittin facts on the Gsp one