This thing is pretty sweet. I would personally have got rid of the weird tiny cubicles under the bed, and rearranged the storage just a bit to give space back to the passthrough. Thinking about it the sink is not that big of a deal to me outside as I can do my dishes inside after we go in for the night. Lastly, those countertops. Every time I see them they look broken. Trippy.
I think I'd hold off on this one in favor of the 266 BHS. Sure, the 266 is $1400 more (MSRP), but the layout is more whole-family-stuck-inside-on-a-rainy-day friendly. Also, the bathroom is bigger, and it has dual entry. Same GVWRs, but the 266 BHS gives up some CCC because it's two feet longer and a tad heavier. Just my $.02
I like the 266 also. Spacious bathroom and open bunks. However, with the slide in it divides the camper in two. Can't access the bathroom from the bunk-side and can't access the rest of the camper from the bedroom. So if you park in a free spot, where the slide has to stay in, you're walking outside to get to your kids or they're walking outside and through your bedroom to get to the bathroom. That's the only negative I see to that floorplan.
I could see little TV trays in the side pocket by the sofa. Those could be used for snack time in front of the TV on rainy day or use them when the owner's bed is up for whatever. I really like the location of the kitchen as that L shape. Thank you for the cargo on the bunk info. Never thought about it but that makes total sense.
I really like that kitchen along that wall, makes direct tv viewing and that large campside window possible. The UUuuuutensil drawer would have been a nice carryover...... The glass shower doors were a surprise! Good one!
Yeah I'm surprised we don't see that much outside of the freedom express series. If i were coachmen, then i'd be slapping those into *E V E R Y T H I N G*
I'm pretty sure these are also factory ready for the slide awning if that is something you are planning to add. Love the Apex line. We are expecting to get our Freedom Express in the spring, as long as the price increases don't drive it out of range, and the Apex was our second choice.
Agreed. Gives it that "grandma's linoleum kitchen" feeling. Doesn't quite match the rest of the interior style. I can overlook it for a great layout but you're definitely not wrong.
Hey Josh something I've always wondered, why can't they make the kitchen extentions fold up flush with the counter top?? I feel like that's so needed and wouldn't need too much engineering??
Great floor plan! Jayco is really putting out some nice units. But a 30ft. Travel Trailer is more than I would want to pull with my 1/2 ton truck. The dynamic side wind load is too much for a 1/2 ton in my opinion.
I was excited for your review of this one, having a 257 freedom express, I’d like to have a sofa in a trailer at a similar size, but I’m not a fan of the kitchen layout, the loss of storage in the front pass through, no sink outside, shorter awning, great review but I’m glad we picked the 257
Is this camper actually suited for a 1500 towing wise? It says the GVWR is 7600 I have a 2014 gmc V8. I’m just trying to figure out how much I can tow.
Love the camp side dinette with the big window. I think it's a much better arrangement than the more common layout where the sink and accompanying "mail slot" window are on the camp side. Lol that looks more like a topper than an actual mattress. 🤣 That under bed storage is really sweet though! Seeing this camper makes me wish I'd bought a bigger truck! ROLLERQUAKING!
That cubicle next to the couch is for the kids tablets , chargers, then board games. Josh, ya gotta be 2022...at least thats what my grand babies tell me. This is my choice of camper, just not many available in late summer 22 here in Georgia. This thing is Awesome.
Losing that bathroom in road mode hurts. That jerry rig idea you had might just save it tho! Almost a full win with this one but that may keep me out of this trailer and at that point I’d just save up and go for a bigger truck and trailer combo.
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV was originally looking at the keystone Springdale 280bh, but between what I have heard about keystone as of late and it being too much for my 1/2 ton I'm looking HARD at the 261bh! Old or new it's a pretty sweet floor plan with or without the slider. I DEFINITELY prefer the room of the slider and I'm hoping for a 2023 261bh by next season.
The bunk area I don’t like too much waste of space for me as I said for me, I would take out the top bunk because the bottom bunk folds up on the upper part where I remove upper block I will put a rotating track system up there to hang clothes
I like this model. I would prefer to have a free floating table for the dinette. For my situation I don't need the bunks but would love to have a washer dryer/ laundry room in that spot or a really big bathroom. Overall it's very nice for a bunkhouse. Also I really like the underbed storage....that seems pretty unique. One last critique is I would like the awning to cover the outside kkitchen
My wife and I walked through this one this weekend and loved it. We have 2018 Toyota Tundra 9400 lbs. towing capacity and 1330 payload. Is this really enough truck to tow this? I think I can tow it but I keep going back to if I should tow it.
This is well within your specs. Even with max cargo you have around a 2,000lb buffer and plenty of payload capacity left So your truck can handle it readily. It’s a matter of your comfort at that stage and that I can’t answer for you
My man!!!! You are friggin awesome. I not only want to buy this RV.....I want to buy this RV from you personally. I will travel out of state to do that.
I wish they'd put slam latches on the camp kitchen door. I love how this camper seems to have balance between sleeping capacity, storage, comfort and size.
Swap the hinges on the bathroom door-to access while slides are in. Or just slide the slide for 1 minute, close ‘er up when your done! Loved your AC/DC comment! Finally has everything I want. Great video! Keep ‘em coming!
This one 👍👍. Josh you’re talking about beer drinking, back in the day I was like that & my younger brother always “forgot “ to by the beer store before coming over. I gave up the bottle in ‘97 & he stopped coming over. That’s the way life sometimes is, no regrets on my part. 👍👍👍👍
Good for you buddy I’ve never had the constitution for serious drinking. I’ll tie one on maybe once a year but I’ll feel like trash for 2-3 days. I just don’t handle it well
Hi Josh! It was cute when you said ya baby like Mike Myers does in the movie. But this is a very nice travel trailer. Thank you for showing this travel trailer.
9:05 so you’re not going to do the shower cha cha in there. Big deal. As long as you can shower off and not be harassed by a freezing curtain of doom that’s a plus.
Thankfully it's pretty easy to make that happen. The cook top just slides out like a drawer for easy removal and the fridge is no sweat to pop up. Then it's just storage with some outlets!
Wow, this is a really nice floor plan. If I hadn't sold my kids to the circus .... kidding, really, they are adults. Trust me .... Really getting into these Coachmens
I think putting the kitchen sideways along the bedroom wall is brilliant. I'd like to see that done in a smaller tow behind toy hauler. It probably has been done...
@@JoshtheRVNerd Oh really? I was wondering where the bathroom would go. I need to brush up on my knowledge of smaller toy haulers. I think 26' would work.
Can't believe I'm just seeing this, but this setup is SO close to my 2007 jayco 29bhs that I want this as my next rig! On my jayco the fridge is opposite side and bathroom sink is outside the bathroom, but other details are so minor makes me want this much newer/younger rig!
Laminated, aluminum framed. Apex isn't a brand with which I've seen frequent soft flooring issues but I feel like anything i say comes from a bias party if that's fair Given that I would actually encourage you to check into something like owners groups on facebook to get their feedback on the flooring
Almost a perfect layout. The toilet placement could be more centered. As for the bathroom door, I feel like they could have implemented a sliding door if they thought it out a bit more... or, just have it open outward, rather than inward. The countertop extension could also be more flush, instead of dropping down. As for the outside kitchen, I would rather have a sink with countertop space than a mini fridge, otherwise, just remove it all for extra storage.
Very cool floorplan 1. Camp side window 2. Opposing seating 3. Bunk windows 4. Rear storage door 5. Cool kitchen placement 6. Access to fridge when slide is in (I assume, haven't watched the entire video)
I'm an Apex fan boy. Love my 2019 Apex Nano 208BHS. This one is nice! That rear door is amazing! Great for a Blackstone griddle, e-bikes or zero gravity chairs!
Perfect review as always thank you! Would love to see more counter space but this model is great. We love our Apex Nano 213 RDS and this would make a nice upgrade.
Uncle Josh can we get Coachmen to see the light on their APEX line and add a door blind too. Otherwise, this is an amazing unit that checks a lot of boxes. I am especially impressed with the bedroom design and it's versatility. I might just switch bathroom door out for a curtain, who knows. I'm fine with no sink in the outside kitchen as long as there is a spray port nearby
Let Josh the RV nerd try this, when this camper is in travel mode not just open the door but have the door removed to begin with and hang a tension rod with a heavy curtain in Lou of the door
What an amazing 1/2 ton layout. If I had the extra money, this would have been my pick! Well worth the extra bucks if you could afford it. My only regret is that I may be pushing the maximum load capacity of that bunk when I am in time out!
Great possibilities but for a couples unit I would loose the bunk beds, expand the bath a bit and use the remaining space for storage. Also, I like the bottle opener near the door! I would loose the dinette and put a normal table and chairs. Love the true queen bed and the under bed storage.
And it looks like they put the external shower right next to the camp kitchen and not the sewer side! One of my complaints with the 194BHS. Why would you put a shower next your sewer line!! 😂
The only thing I could come up with that I would change is the counter extension in the kitchen. It really needs to be flush with the counters, not below it. Other than that, it’s great. True queen bed, oversized cargo bunks, nice size/weight for its class. I love the double Azdel with the aluminum framing. I think it’s really pretty too. I especially like the gray back. Love the new nerdisms too! Keep ‘‘em coming. Still waiting for the definictionary. At this rate, it’ll never be finished though.
Walkable yes though it’s recommended you make sure you don’t walk on the AC channels (which will support you) but feel softer underfoot Not sure if these are ladder prepped. I need to find out
Outside shower? And looking at the pass thru storage, it it me : I would spray the floor and sides with a rubber style black paint. My thought process is to cut the humidity, if what you store there might be damp, like a rolled-up fake grass carpet...
Do you know where the bedroom tv and outdoor tv mounting plates are. Bummed they didn’t have a bracket already on the exterior and hesitant on just guessing as there wasn’t any markings.
PRIVATE bunks? That's a little trickier because those all tend to be a bit bigger. There's certainly a few good options but these were the first two that popped into my head: → Stick & Tin: bit.ly/2XsYaiR → Laminated: bit.ly/3k3lRX9
the knife holder is neat, but too close to the burners. if you have wooden handles, the can burn, plastic will get melted. ive cooked in restaurants for 30+ years and would move it to the left against the window.
Funny you mention it -- I had a similar thought One major difference factor I can share here though is RVs have LOW btu output burner in the back near those things. I'm not at all indicating what you're saying isn't a valid concern but these things don't cook like a professional range
@@JoshtheRVNerd it would also depend on the size of pot/ pan as to how far the heat would come out the sides. Not necessarily the open flame. The heat by itself would be enough.
Really like this one for a first trailer. Were you able to find out if the sofa is able to be changed out for theater seating? Also, could there be a table/chair option instead of the dinette? As I said, I really like this one. Thanks so much for taking your time to make these videos Josh! We live in CA, but would make the drive to MI to buy from your dealership, even after the merger. Would love the opportunity to meet you as well.
Theater and hide a beds are usually interchangeable due to size. Just need to verify. Now and then we get surprised No table option on this one to my knowledge I believe due to wheel well positioning. Ty for the consideration! When you’re ready all we ever ask is for the fair shake at working with you!!
When Manufactures put a cargo door on the back of an rv, It’s freaking awesome!! Thanks uncle Josh!
It's just SO handy
My love my sweetheart my wife is only about 4 foot 11. How would she reach? The microwave with out climbing 12 foot ladder
This thing is pretty sweet. I would personally have got rid of the weird tiny cubicles under the bed, and rearranged the storage just a bit to give space back to the passthrough. Thinking about it the sink is not that big of a deal to me outside as I can do my dishes inside after we go in for the night. Lastly, those countertops. Every time I see them they look broken. Trippy.
A few people mentioned the same “counter top looks broken” thing. When I get consistent feedback like that I can direct it to the factory. Ty
I think I'd hold off on this one in favor of the 266 BHS. Sure, the 266 is $1400 more (MSRP), but the layout is more whole-family-stuck-inside-on-a-rainy-day friendly. Also, the bathroom is bigger, and it has dual entry. Same GVWRs, but the 266 BHS gives up some CCC because it's two feet longer and a tad heavier. Just my $.02
Fair!! That’s why they make so many variant layouts
I like the 266 also. Spacious bathroom and open bunks. However, with the slide in it divides the camper in two. Can't access the bathroom from the bunk-side and can't access the rest of the camper from the bedroom. So if you park in a free spot, where the slide has to stay in, you're walking outside to get to your kids or they're walking outside and through your bedroom to get to the bathroom. That's the only negative I see to that floorplan.
I could see little TV trays in the side pocket by the sofa. Those could be used for snack time in front of the TV on rainy day or use them when the owner's bed is up for whatever.
I really like the location of the kitchen as that L shape. Thank you for the cargo on the bunk info. Never thought about it but that makes total sense.
TV Trays are a HIGHLY undervalued tool for camping I think
I have owned mine for almost three years and have yet to find a layout, size, and price point that beats it.
I always felt like this is a criminally underrated layout
You can do like a little things in the oven. Like cooking a squab no turkey. I wonder how many people know what a squab is?
Squab lol
Historically a mainstay of the american diet that's largely fallen out of the public view
Congratulations on discovering Nerdism #37, Roadquake!
Hey, thanks!
I really like that kitchen along that wall, makes direct tv viewing and that large campside window possible. The UUuuuutensil drawer would have been a nice carryover...... The glass shower doors were a surprise! Good one!
Yeah I'm surprised we don't see that much outside of the freedom express series. If i were coachmen, then i'd be slapping those into *E V E R Y T H I N G*
looking forward to seeing non bunk house APEX RV’s… 👀
Stay tuned. We will get some one of these days
Really like this floor plan. That extra 5’ make such a difference over my 20’er. Thanks for the videos Josh!
Yes it does!
At 1:22 we have your local Rv Park Peeping Tom… Lmao!!
👀
Could you not just reverse the bathroom door to open on the left? Would there be enough room then to shimmy through with the slide closed?
Possibly. I've passed the idea along to Coachmen's design manager
Still not cutting the sink cover in half! Nice big sink, itty bitty counter space.
Good feedback. I will pass along
I'm pretty sure these are also factory ready for the slide awning if that is something you are planning to add. Love the Apex line. We are expecting to get our Freedom Express in the spring, as long as the price increases don't drive it out of range, and the Apex was our second choice.
Josh all that has to be done on the bathroom door is switch the hinges to the other side. Of course that’s best done when it’s manufactured.
I wondered about that. It would open. Enough to slide thru? Would have to look again
Like the layout. Wish it got uuuuuutensil drawers under sinks and the knockoff Blackstone in the outdoor kitchen.
Love that drawer
Since there is good space for it I would like a towel bar installed on the wall opposite the toilet.
I could see that
I've been eyeing this floorplan for a few months. Thinking about upgrading from a 239ml.
This is a really smart/logical step up from that one. It's kinda what you'd get if you "un-murphy" that 239ML I think
I DO love your tips and tricks! Even after 30 years of RVing, and several different rigs, I'm still learning from you ☺️
The floor looks dated and terrible, should have a dark plank type flooring.
Thx for sharing. If a handful of people have similar input, then it makes for a great case to share with the MFG
Agreed. Gives it that "grandma's linoleum kitchen" feeling. Doesn't quite match the rest of the interior style. I can overlook it for a great layout but you're definitely not wrong.
Hey Josh something I've always wondered, why can't they make the kitchen extentions fold up flush with the counter top?? I feel like that's so needed and wouldn't need too much engineering??
And why do they always block the entrance? Take a page out of luxury RV and use a extension from the drawers
If I had to guess - to allow for tolerances in production
no outside sink no deal, also needs awning cover camp kitchen
Appreciate the insight! Sometimes knowing what ISN'T awesome is even more valuable!
Sweet floor plan! I wish Apex had an option for different interior tones? Put some Goodyears on it, lose the 2 burner camp stove for a griddle 👌
Great floor plan! Jayco is really putting out some nice units. But a 30ft. Travel Trailer is more than I would want to pull with my 1/2 ton truck. The dynamic side wind load is too much for a 1/2 ton in my opinion.
This isn’t a Jayco btw but a Coachmen!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd My bad🤫
@@raycalandra1887 No sweat. Lord knows I make mistakes daily lol
I was excited for your review of this one, having a 257 freedom express, I’d like to have a sofa in a trailer at a similar size, but I’m not a fan of the kitchen layout, the loss of storage in the front pass through, no sink outside, shorter awning, great review but I’m glad we picked the 257
I kept comparing this to a 257 myself along the way
Is this camper actually suited for a 1500 towing wise? It says the GVWR is 7600 I have a 2014 gmc V8. I’m just trying to figure out how much I can tow.
Josh, this is a really nice floor plan, everything is well done.
I agree. This thing is actually threatening to be my personal new "target model"
It's just... it's WELL Done
5:50 they don’t want burnt burger scent in the bunk anyway
I for one happen to like that lol
Love the camp side dinette with the big window. I think it's a much better arrangement than the more common layout where the sink and accompanying "mail slot" window are on the camp side.
Lol that looks more like a topper than an actual mattress. 🤣 That under bed storage is really sweet though!
Seeing this camper makes me wish I'd bought a bigger truck!
ROLLERQUAKING!
#rollerquake
That cubicle next to the couch is for the kids tablets , chargers, then board games. Josh, ya gotta be 2022...at least thats what my grand babies tell me. This is my choice of camper, just not many available in late summer 22 here in Georgia. This thing is Awesome.
I really like the the open undivided sink. ' Roller Quaken', Perfect!
#ROLLERQUAKEN is my new favorite thing
Such a great floor plan, we saw this when we were shopping for our trailer last January, but the weren't producing it yet.
I am really happy with it. I would love to see someone like cougar make something like this too
Wow, those trays on top of the under bed storage up front are great for a rifle! Also, it looks like the slide is prepped for a slide topper.
I wondered what those slide brackets were too.
I had a similar thought under the bed for fishing poles
Losing that bathroom in road mode hurts. That jerry rig idea you had might just save it tho!
Almost a full win with this one but that may keep me out of this trailer and at that point I’d just save up and go for a bigger truck and trailer combo.
Looks like a Grand Design transcend xplor 261bh clone
What’s funny is this is a floor plan that was around for a long while before GD was formed but phased out if popularity. Suddenly it’s back in style
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV was originally looking at the keystone Springdale 280bh, but between what I have heard about keystone as of late and it being too much for my 1/2 ton I'm looking HARD at the 261bh!
Old or new it's a pretty sweet floor plan with or without the slider. I DEFINITELY prefer the room of the slider and I'm hoping for a 2023 261bh by next season.
Thank you Josh for showing this video. It’s a nice travel trailer. Nice storage. Nice tv placement. For being small it’s nice.
Bungee cords are great for stabilizing doors though roller quakes 👍🏼
Ah Ty!
what if door hinges were on the opposite side (fr manufacturer ideally)
The bunk area I don’t like too much waste of space for me as I said for me, I would take out the top bunk because the bottom bunk folds up on the upper part where I remove upper block I will put a rotating track system up there to hang clothes
I like this model. I would prefer to have a free floating table for the dinette. For my situation I don't need the bunks but would love to have a washer dryer/ laundry room in that spot or a really big bathroom. Overall it's very nice for a bunkhouse. Also I really like the underbed storage....that seems pretty unique. One last critique is I would like the awning to cover the outside kkitchen
Agreed on the awning. It’s the same thing on the 208bhs I own.
There may be stuff under the dinette seats.
Easy solution on the dinette is to just get rid of the post legs and get some floating / folding legs. Inexpensive and easy to do
My wife and I walked through this one this weekend and loved it. We have 2018 Toyota Tundra 9400 lbs. towing capacity and 1330 payload. Is this really enough truck to tow this? I think I can tow it but I keep going back to if I should tow it.
This is well within your specs. Even with max cargo you have around a 2,000lb buffer and plenty of payload capacity left
So your truck can handle it readily. It’s a matter of your comfort at that stage and that I can’t answer for you
Perfect
My man!!!! You are friggin awesome. I not only want to buy this RV.....I want to buy this RV from you personally. I will travel out of state to do that.
Well crap. If only I were in sales myself lol
We have people for that thankfully 😅
I wish they'd put slam latches on the camp kitchen door. I love how this camper seems to have balance between sleeping capacity, storage, comfort and size.
Slam latches are always nice
Roller Quakin' for the win! That's as good as propanus! But you can say it in front of more people.
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Swap the hinges on the bathroom door-to access while slides are in. Or just slide the slide for 1 minute, close ‘er up when your done! Loved your AC/DC comment! Finally has everything I want. Great video! Keep ‘em coming!
I think that might work. Just have to make sure there's enough room to slip thru. Even sideways
This one 👍👍. Josh you’re talking about beer drinking, back in the day I was like that & my younger brother always “forgot “ to by the beer store before coming over. I gave up the bottle in ‘97 & he stopped coming over. That’s the way life sometimes is, no regrets on my part. 👍👍👍👍
Good for you buddy
I’ve never had the constitution for serious drinking. I’ll tie one on maybe once a year but I’ll feel like trash for 2-3 days. I just don’t handle it well
Hi Josh! It was cute when you said ya baby like Mike Myers does in the movie. But this is a very nice travel trailer. Thank you for showing this travel trailer.
Thanks for watching!
Nice floor plan, I'd give up that odd shaped couch storage pocket for a larger bathroom... Almost 150K Subs Josh!
Closing in! I’m still so humbled at our growth..
Only thing I would change, extend that awning so it covers the outdoor kitchen like the 245 does..
I would be up for that. Good idea
9:05 so you’re not going to do the shower cha cha in there. Big deal. As long as you can shower off and not be harassed by a freezing curtain of doom that’s a plus.
CURTAIN OF DOOOO lolool
I'd rather have storage than an outdoor kitchen, but otherwise, this camper would work.
Thankfully it's pretty easy to make that happen. The cook top just slides out like a drawer for easy removal and the fridge is no sweat to pop up. Then it's just storage with some outlets!
Wow, this is a really nice floor plan. If I hadn't sold my kids to the circus .... kidding, really, they are adults. Trust me .... Really getting into these Coachmens
The difference with them I think I they’re made by people that actually camp. You see it reflected in some of their choices
That little opening next to the fridge would be good for TV trays. Nice video. Thanks
Oh Good call
Just imagine if the wildwood 263bhxl had the back door..it would be that much better. Already the best floor plan in my opinion.
Frankly I am a fan of those where’ve r they can put them
I think putting the kitchen sideways along the bedroom wall is brilliant. I'd like to see that done in a smaller tow behind toy hauler. It probably has been done...
How small? That’s fairly common in a 26-29ft toy hauler
@@JoshtheRVNerd Oh really? I was wondering where the bathroom would go. I need to brush up on my knowledge of smaller toy haulers. I think 26' would work.
Shut up and take my money
I discussed your proposal with management and we have found it acceptable.
Can't believe I'm just seeing this, but this setup is SO close to my 2007 jayco 29bhs that I want this as my next rig! On my jayco the fridge is opposite side and bathroom sink is outside the bathroom, but other details are so minor makes me want this much newer/younger rig!
Cougar makes a similar 27bhs as well btw
Dave the Beer Moocher 🍺 = Huck-a-buck!
Josh your energy is at like a 9.5 on this video. It should probably be like a 11 cuz it's pretty awesome.
lol I shall endeavor to persevere
Bingo! Finally what I'm looking for! Love this layout! How are the floors?
Laminated, aluminum framed. Apex isn't a brand with which I've seen frequent soft flooring issues but I feel like anything i say comes from a bias party if that's fair
Given that I would actually encourage you to check into something like owners groups on facebook to get their feedback on the flooring
The should flip the restroom door (so opens to the right) - that would allow bathroom access while on the road…
I think it would help
Almost a perfect layout. The toilet placement could be more centered. As for the bathroom door, I feel like they could have implemented a sliding door if they thought it out a bit more... or, just have it open outward, rather than inward. The countertop extension could also be more flush, instead of dropping down. As for the outside kitchen, I would rather have a sink with countertop space than a mini fridge, otherwise, just remove it all for extra storage.
Easily popped out thankfully. That's what's nice about most camp kitchens -- easily reverted into just storage
Very cool floorplan
1. Camp side window
2. Opposing seating
3. Bunk windows
4. Rear storage door
5. Cool kitchen placement
6. Access to fridge when slide is in (I assume, haven't watched the entire video)
Yep. Bathroom is the only wonky thing for travel access
I'm an Apex fan boy. Love my 2019 Apex Nano 208BHS. This one is nice! That rear door is amazing! Great for a Blackstone griddle, e-bikes or zero gravity chairs!
Found that my Lectric ebike loaded in the back of this easily. Probably room for two in there + padding for transit
Perfect review as always thank you! Would love to see more counter space but this model is great. We love our Apex Nano 213 RDS and this would make a nice upgrade.
I like that 213 and wonder if a twin bed setup wouldn’t be good in that one..
Nice little rig. Stay safe and healthy Josh.
Ty. You as well!!
18:30
Wonder if there would be room to open the bathroom door if you reverse it. Did that on my 2509s since they are backwards. Wasn't too bad.
I think a bit for sure but enough to slide thru?? Not sure..
Uncle Josh can we get Coachmen to see the light on their APEX line and add a door blind too. Otherwise, this is an amazing unit that checks a lot of boxes.
I am especially impressed with the bedroom design and it's versatility. I might just switch bathroom door out for a curtain, who knows. I'm fine with no sink in the outside kitchen as long as there is a spray port nearby
I feel like a broken record talking about that but it seems to glaring to me
Im torn apart whether to go with the 245bhs and this 256bhs! I’m worried the extra length is gonna be a headache at some campgrounds
It’s still well within most tighter camp spots but length is length! Little trickier cornering
I’d imagine you’d still be ok
Let Josh the RV nerd try this, when this camper is in travel mode not just open the door but have the door removed to begin with and hang a tension rod with a heavy curtain in Lou of the door
That would work for sure
What an amazing 1/2 ton layout. If I had the extra money, this would have been my pick! Well worth the extra bucks if you could afford it. My only regret is that I may be pushing the maximum load capacity of that bunk when I am in time out!
I wasn't joking -- this layout was one of THE main reasons Apex is back in our lineup. Stuff like THIS is what they were lacking before
Great possibilities but for a couples unit I would loose the bunk beds, expand the bath a bit and use the remaining space for storage. Also, I like the bottle opener near the door! I would loose the dinette and put a normal table and chairs. Love the true queen bed and the under bed storage.
Good news is they make plenty of couples models as well. Eager to get more of these
And it looks like they put the external shower right next to the camp kitchen and not the sewer side! One of my complaints with the 194BHS. Why would you put a shower next your sewer line!! 😂
They can be handy if you need some quick little cleanups in the event of an oops
But I get what you’re saying
The only thing I could come up with that I would change is the counter extension in the kitchen. It really needs to be flush with the counters, not below it. Other than that, it’s great. True queen bed, oversized cargo bunks, nice size/weight for its class. I love the double Azdel with the aluminum framing. I think it’s really pretty too. I especially like the gray back.
Love the new nerdisms too! Keep ‘‘em coming. Still waiting for the definictionary. At this rate, it’ll never be finished though.
Yeah the list just keeps growing!!
ROLLERQUAKE!!
Walkable Roof (?)-- No Ladder. I may have seen something shinny myself and missed that info. Cheers !!
Walkable yes though it’s recommended you make sure you don’t walk on the AC channels (which will support you) but feel softer underfoot
Not sure if these are ladder prepped. I need to find out
Hey apex flip the bathroom door open from the left. Great video josh.
That might do it
Outside shower? And looking at the pass thru storage, it it me : I would spray the floor and sides with a rubber style black paint. My thought process is to cut the humidity, if what you store there might be damp, like a rolled-up fake grass carpet...
Camp Shower on the back wall between the cargo door and camp kitchen
Would a folding table fit in that unusual storage cabinet, next to the couch?
Depending on the total folded size potentially. Great idea.
12:25 that pokey pocket would be great if a folding dining chair fit in there
BRILLIANT!!
Do you know where the bedroom tv and outdoor tv mounting plates are. Bummed they didn’t have a bracket already on the exterior and hesitant on just guessing as there wasn’t any markings.
Not offhand. Contact coachmen with your VIN perhaps. They should be able to assist
Really like this ... will be adding to my wish list ! Thanks Josh ! Keep up the excellent work
Thx Joey!! Have a great weekend
This is a really nice family Camper there need to be more. Thanks for the video!
Our pleasure :)
Josh! In your opinion what do you think the best floorplan with a private bunkhouse that could be towed with a Ford Expedition? (under 9000lbs)
PRIVATE bunks? That's a little trickier because those all tend to be a bit bigger.
There's certainly a few good options but these were the first two that popped into my head:
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3.5 ecoboost?
One thing you have to watch out for is "the tail wagging the dog".
There is no weather cover at all over the camp kitchen!
the knife holder is neat, but too close to the burners. if you have wooden handles, the can burn, plastic will get melted. ive cooked in restaurants for 30+ years and would move it to the left against the window.
Funny you mention it -- I had a similar thought
One major difference factor I can share here though is RVs have LOW btu output burner in the back near those things. I'm not at all indicating what you're saying isn't a valid concern but these things don't cook like a professional range
@@JoshtheRVNerd it would also depend on the size of pot/ pan as to how far the heat would come out the sides. Not necessarily the open flame. The heat by itself would be enough.
Innovations of things to come..almost like a jayco 285 with rear bunkhouse and bath
Yep! The old 28BHS was a Jay Flight with an eerily similar layout when I first started here. Funny how what was old is suddenly new again :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd needs carpetless slide out, friction hinge door if not equipped see it has the more ride steps it has possibilities wisper quiet air
"Sheez got the look, I want to know better... the Jordache loo-ook!!"
Dating yourself Josh😂😂
I mean.. have you seen my hairline?
I am old for my age man lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😂😂😂
All I want for Christmas is an Apex 256bhs 😂
Thankfully our giant christmas tree out front here is large enough I think :)
Great looking rig. It looks like the papa of the 208BHS I own.
VERY much what it is yeah
ThighFryer LOL
Love it haha
♥️♥️♥️ the under bed storage in this one
Ok. I do like the floor plan. Very Nice. Kitty litter pan can fit under that bed. LoL. JK
I could see someone actually doing that though
When is Coachmen going to stop with the crappy 4” fans? And where will you put a trash can?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thankfully our parts people have the fix
Check out Hengs Vortex fans
Best upgrade out there
Love this floorplan. The storage in the bedroom is excellent. Rear door is great and folding bunk works well to get dog crates out of the way.
Agreed. This one is potentially my new personal favorite half ton family camper.. it’s just a monster
Very sleek looking inside. Smooth, put together right.
This one is a star for sure
Really like this one for a first trailer. Were you able to find out if the sofa is able to be changed out for theater seating? Also, could there be a table/chair option instead of the dinette?
As I said, I really like this one. Thanks so much for taking your time to make these videos Josh! We live in CA, but would make the drive to MI to buy from your dealership, even after the merger. Would love the opportunity to meet you as well.
Dinette may not be able to be changed since it could have the furnace or other stuff under the seats.
Theater and hide a beds are usually interchangeable due to size. Just need to verify. Now and then we get surprised
No table option on this one to my knowledge I believe due to wheel well positioning.
Ty for the consideration! When you’re ready all we ever ask is for the fair shake at working with you!!
I read at various places online that there's an outdoor shower. Is the the black cover at the rear passenger side the outdoor shower?
Yep! Back corner in camp-side
I just bought one of these based on your review. Thanks for the help, Josh!
Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the helping hand? It'll cost you nothing and it'd mean a lot! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd done!
Great review. Would a 10-12 ft kayak fit in the cargo area?
I haven't personally tested but it MIGHT be able to snake up into there