What’s Gone WRONG With Mizuno Irons?

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2024

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  • @JamesRobinsonGolf
    @JamesRobinsonGolf  Місяць тому +8

    So guys… turns out I have reviewed these already… good news. We’ve gone mega in depth… I need more sleep 😂

    • @MaxwellGolf
      @MaxwellGolf Місяць тому +2

      It would be nice to see them compared to the mp 245’s

  • @JamesSterling-x5x
    @JamesSterling-x5x Місяць тому +14

    I have a set of HL’s. The have transformed my game. I’m a retired disabled Vet with back and neck issues. I can now hit approach shots to the Green!

    • @FrankLewis040
      @FrankLewis040 Місяць тому

      My Mizuno JPX 923 Hot Metal have been amazing. I sold my TaylorMade P790s, because it wasn't even close for me.

    • @zazhou
      @zazhou Місяць тому

      I am very interested in the HL's too. However, I am fearful they may be too left biased because of the amount of offset. How do they perform for you regarding shot shape?

    • @MG-un1sh
      @MG-un1sh Місяць тому

      I use the 923 HLs which are not much different than these 925s. I lost about a club of distance but now have much better dispersion and stopping power than my previous set (PXG 0211.) Of course my scores have gone down noticeably after the switch.

    • @JamesSterling-x5x
      @JamesSterling-x5x Місяць тому

      @@zazhou I don’t have your problem 😂 I could see where the offset could be an adjustment.

  • @stephenfowler4115
    @stephenfowler4115 Місяць тому +6

    I don't really care how far the clubs go. What I need is what the distance between each club in the set is. Is it consistent and predictable.

  • @bobkay2485
    @bobkay2485 Місяць тому +3

    Great irons. Love Mizuno. Many upgrade options (shafts and grips) at no charge.

  • @JoeCothern-lv8zx
    @JoeCothern-lv8zx Місяць тому +1

    Another great one James, keep them coming brother. Cheers

  • @dougnbodie
    @dougnbodie Місяць тому +1

    I have the HM 921 pro and I have no problems getting the long irons to stop on the green. Great forgiveness and easy to shape. Overall great club that I’ll play for another 5 or 6 years

  • @500VulcanRider
    @500VulcanRider Місяць тому +1

    I will stick with my Cleveland Zipcore XL, most reviews I have seen rate them above these. And reading the posts where you discover that you had already done a review on these is wonderful, "Daddy Duty" what a wonderful reason to be tired!!!!!!

  • @richardbashforth3771
    @richardbashforth3771 Місяць тому +1

    Just had a fitting at sggt where these came out on top with the la golf graphite shaft which I saw you trying on their video. Great set of irons, replaced the p790 purely for more help in the longer irons

    • @cwoolly933
      @cwoolly933 Місяць тому

      Do you mind if I ask what that cost you please? For irons not the fitting. I'm thinking of going there.

  • @nealespear8085
    @nealespear8085 Місяць тому

    been playing JPX919 HMP for about 5 years now, such great irons got them fitted with DG 105g S-flex which has worked so well.

  • @wildstar242424
    @wildstar242424 Місяць тому

    I think you keyed into something really important. There are plenty of mediocre to bad golfers like me that struggle much more witha left miss.. many of these game improvement irons have too much offset. That’s why I ended up getting hot metal pros.

  • @joeperez3520
    @joeperez3520 Місяць тому +1

    I just got a set of these, but ordered them before I found out that I need another hand surgery. Only able to try them once, and really couldn't go all out. I conceded that old age meant that I should stick with the lighter 65 gram graphite shaft, rather than the heavier 85 gram version.

  • @guywhittern2800
    @guywhittern2800 Місяць тому +1

    I have the 921 hot metal pros and they are the best irons I’ve had in 40 years of golf, most of which I’ve used Mizuno. I’m sure these are just as good and can be used by any handicap IMO.

  • @seantaylormtb7170
    @seantaylormtb7170 11 днів тому

    I am a relatively low hcap golfer (sub 5) and i find the whole "game improvement" thing quite interesting. Irons get bagged into game improvement and yet woods never seem to befall the same fate (and i do get the difference in terms of control vs distance). There are irons like these that have very respectable spin rates, good (if not tour standard) angle of decent, relatively workable (if not tour standard), that are more forgiving and add distance. These sort of clubs will help 99% of golfers out there (maybe not tour standard) to shoot lower scores. The argument of just going up club has a lot of holes in it (especially when you run out of irons to club up to).
    Would love to see a real long term test to see if these clubs improve scores for golfers playing off 25, 18, 12, 5, 0.... I have owned JPX clubs and loved them btw

  • @wkndwarrior4733
    @wkndwarrior4733 Місяць тому

    I have the 923 hmp’s. It’s not often you see a brand make something look bigger but Mizuno have done that with the 925s for some reason. They just look chunkier. One thing to note the gap wedge may be new, the 923 gap wedge was more wedgey different design from rest of the set

  • @whiteriverangler9670
    @whiteriverangler9670 Місяць тому +2

    I am really glad they went with a hollow body gap wedge. On my 923 hot metals they are a regular wedge and the gapping is not good for me and it doesnt feel the same. Lets be honest the "Gap" wedge is really just a pitching wedge. I get 145 y out of the pwedge and only like 110 from the gap. I definitely prefer to see it in a hollow body and match the set verses what I got.

    • @dougnbodie
      @dougnbodie Місяць тому +1

      Agree, the GAP is not gapped correctly as I too have a 25 yard difference between my PW and GAP but only a 10 yard difference between the 9 and the PW. Thought they would fix that after a few years.

  • @pickitupgolf276
    @pickitupgolf276 Місяць тому

    After watching you, Mr Dennis, and to a lesser extent Gaz, play your way around Woolley park multiple times, I feel like I know my way around your course lol

  • @davidtomsett
    @davidtomsett Місяць тому +1

    Never knew that acoustic ribs would make the ball travel so far

  • @grumpyoldgit8254
    @grumpyoldgit8254 Місяць тому

    Just been down to SGGT today and ordered a set of these, 63 yr old and needed a bit of distance and forgiveness back👍

  • @royclose946
    @royclose946 Місяць тому

    Well done James 👏 😊look nice 👍

  • @Steve2024-y6h
    @Steve2024-y6h Місяць тому

    I have recently bought new clubs, (Callaway Paradym X). I still watch these review videos for the entertainment value. Keep them coming…maybe give Bobby a bit less stick though 😊

  • @andrewwalker652
    @andrewwalker652 Місяць тому

    Hi James. The 925 Forged is available in Japan. Any news of the UK release date as I’m waiting to upgrade my 919 Forged set.😊

  • @joannaespley6035
    @joannaespley6035 Місяць тому

    Love Mizuno dating back to 1984 when I bought a set of Mizuno Pro Originals

  • @Hacker-xe8yv
    @Hacker-xe8yv Місяць тому

    Never liked my JPX 919's with the little "vanes" in the cavities to improve feel and sound. Whenever I swing the longer irons, 4 and 5, I get a horse cough sound on the forward swing. Also cleaning the clubs the heads hold water which pours out when you turn the club over grip side down into the bag.

  • @chrismcateer7912
    @chrismcateer7912 Місяць тому

    The tours you mentioned aren’t coming in jpx anymore, that style is being left to the MP line. The forged look much better n will be out next year

  • @edwardmiles3921
    @edwardmiles3921 Місяць тому

    Do they have a forged face insert?

  • @slicerjohn1897
    @slicerjohn1897 Місяць тому +1

    Yep Mizuno irons so good you had to have a second look lol, but they are good 👍.

  • @seanclarke4125
    @seanclarke4125 Місяць тому

    Good review, could be my next irons.

  • @robertchilton8111
    @robertchilton8111 Місяць тому

    I played the hot metals for the past 4 1/2 years they are amazing and took me from a 12/14 to a 6.3. I started running into the problem of unintentional flyers. Literally having an 8 iron fly an additional 10 yards out of the blue. I do like to practice a lot is it possible that I have worn the clubs enough that I am getting a knuckle ball every once in awhile? Regardless they make the game easier and more enjoyable. Thanks James

  • @rodconner9079
    @rodconner9079 Місяць тому

    I imagine if you'd find these a bit long but like 'em, having the lofts & lies adjusted would pay big for ones' game and mental positivity!!! : ) ... esp with the HL! Be Safe

  • @dylan1kaye
    @dylan1kaye Місяць тому

    How do these compare to the Mizuno pro 225?

  • @bigphil5980
    @bigphil5980 Місяць тому

    Will there be a Forged & Tour version I have the 921 forged and ❤them

  • @KennethFitzpatrick
    @KennethFitzpatrick Місяць тому

    James it would have been nice to know the distance both of you were hitting in to the greens with the gap and 9 iron

  • @nkimmanceify
    @nkimmanceify Місяць тому

    well wrapped up! winter has arrived. maybe time for a trip to warmer climbs

  • @geoffreypleavin5268
    @geoffreypleavin5268 Місяць тому

    You talk about these for a 15 handicapper? But what about 5he HL s? Where do they fit? Maybe there a better fit for a 15 handicapper

  • @andrewpenrose-v6m
    @andrewpenrose-v6m Місяць тому +1

    JPX 919, 921, 923 have the same tech with better looks! I play JPX 919 with Project X Lz Graphite 4.5 shafts perfect combination. Great carry and stopping power on the greens.

  • @donnawhitfield6820
    @donnawhitfield6820 Місяць тому

    I have hot metal 923. I love them but I can mush it them and they still help me get the ball on the green.

  • @Golfing-AddiCt
    @Golfing-AddiCt Місяць тому

    The Mizuno Forged come out in the next couple of months, so I'm waiting to see how they look and feel before I make any purchases.

    • @chriscollier3197
      @chriscollier3197 Місяць тому +1

      Pictures already out in the FE and look gorgeous. I play the 923 Forged and feel wonderful, far better than these normal ones. Well worth waiting I agree

    • @Golfing-AddiCt
      @Golfing-AddiCt Місяць тому

      ​@@chriscollier3197 they've already been released in Japan, I've seen pictures and I've got the spec numbers, I can't wait to hit them, I love the Forged feel, but I'm looking for a higher ball flight than I get from the JPX 900 Forged.

  • @stephenferris7274
    @stephenferris7274 Місяць тому +1

    Intrigued to know why you've done a 2nd review of these?

    • @JamesRobinsonGolf
      @JamesRobinsonGolf  Місяць тому

      So you didn’t see me literally get them out of the wrapper in this video?

    • @stephenferris7274
      @stephenferris7274 Місяць тому

      @JamesRobinsonGolf well yes, but you also did one month ago..., the thumbnail is called 'PERFECT!?'. Look it up yourself.
      That video ended with you complaining about the 9 iron not stopping quick enough and suggesting they don't spin enough. But this video today you're saying the landing angle makes them fine...?

    • @stephenferris7274
      @stephenferris7274 Місяць тому

      I've enjoyed both reviews. I'm just wondering if you done a 2nd video to put forward a different view on stopping power?

    • @JamesRobinsonGolf
      @JamesRobinsonGolf  Місяць тому +2

      Hahahaha I’m an idiot and owe you an apology! 😂🙌🏼 sleepless nights on daddy duty means unproductive secondary vids!
      Regards to the 9-iron stopping. It’s amazing how different conditions makes such a difference isn’t it! Also I guess it’s nice to get Chris’ opinions on them I guess 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @stephenferris7274
      @stephenferris7274 Місяць тому

      @@JamesRobinsonGolf ha, no problem. Both vids are good and fair reviews and I'll likely make them my winter clubs as a result. Now have the weekend off and catch up on some sleep. 😂

  • @Alan-75
    @Alan-75 Місяць тому

    I started with Mizunos Mp30 irons in 3-pw, they cost me £450 new and I'm still playing them as I love em. I wouldn't mind a set of 243/ 241 combos but At today's prices I'll have to stick with the Mp30s.

  • @tommiethatcher7265
    @tommiethatcher7265 Місяць тому

    Cracking review guy’s

  • @stu4843
    @stu4843 18 днів тому +1

    They are forged and so much softer than TM P790s, the i530 is the closest but not as good a feel.

  • @Beergoggled
    @Beergoggled Місяць тому +1

    Personally speaking, I think it’d be like hitting a ball with an air wair boot. Let’s get back to forged blades where you risk rattling your arm up to your shoulder, that’s reet golf.

  • @r3clus386
    @r3clus386 Місяць тому

    My 923 hot metals are amazing and I can't see myself taking them out of my bag for a long, long time

  • @dfrugt
    @dfrugt Місяць тому

    Same old problem: which Mizuno model is my favourite iron of all to buy this time?

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 Місяць тому

    I do not like the look of these, but I suspect I am more of an MP range of iron player than the JPX range. Like James I loved the JPX Tour irons.
    As for performance, 175 yards carry with a 7i is impressive until you consider the loft of 28.5 degrees, that is a degree stronger than my i210 6i which I carry pretty much the same distance , although with less spin and has the peak height and descent angle to stop reasonably quickly on all but the hardest and bounciest of summer greens. And I do not swing my irons as fast as James does
    The problem for me with these irons is that the Srixon ZX4 just look so much better and perform really well.

  • @lexxwhite747
    @lexxwhite747 Місяць тому

    Damned good looking club heads

  • @timneitzel6703
    @timneitzel6703 Місяць тому

    Selling my qi10s for the pros with mmt 105 stiff shafts. Hit them farther with more dispersion

  • @chrissims1957
    @chrissims1957 Місяць тому

    They remind me of the Taylormade Sim2

  • @curtismelick2513
    @curtismelick2513 Місяць тому

    Test these vs. T350s

  • @brandonphimprachanh2781
    @brandonphimprachanh2781 Місяць тому

    My Jpx 923 forged are the best irons I’ve ever hit and played

  • @petekenny3774
    @petekenny3774 Місяць тому

    "yeah it was the offset" ha ha ha ha ha ha

  • @MaxwellGolf
    @MaxwellGolf Місяць тому

    I love Mizuno’s I play the MP 225’s

  • @craigturner1950
    @craigturner1950 Місяць тому

    Used to have jpx825 now got jpx 921 love both. Got me from 28 hc to my lowest hc of 8.9 I'm 64

  • @Smiththebat
    @Smiththebat Місяць тому

    Played the jpx223’s and they felt better on all strikes than my friends p770’s. Even if the p770’s look way better.

  • @chrisburgess8016
    @chrisburgess8016 Місяць тому

    Go Richard Jones get your self a set 😀

  • @godfreys4321
    @godfreys4321 Місяць тому

    I will receive maltby ts1 IM heads next week

  • @jeffnahass8373
    @jeffnahass8373 Місяць тому

    Nice.

  • @JamesSterling-x5x
    @JamesSterling-x5x Місяць тому +1

    I’m first! Woohoo

  • @petekenny3774
    @petekenny3774 Місяць тому

    Are they better then 921 hot metals 😂😂😂😂. Come on mizunos stop releasing the same thing with a higher number

  • @paulstephenson5815
    @paulstephenson5815 Місяць тому

    Mizuno’s have looked awful over the last few models , the 921 range was great but these look horrible

  • @Lovetheducks
    @Lovetheducks Місяць тому

    They are mizuno so I’m sure will play well but they are ugly. Normally mizuno makes beautiful irons.

  • @cameronloveless1751
    @cameronloveless1751 Місяць тому

    Performance and feel improved over the 923’s. Just a shame about the looks, cos that is definitely a backwards step. But you take the performance gain all day. Might have to wait til late 2026 for the 927’s to come out - see if Mizuno can keep the performance and feel, but improve on the looks

    • @Golfing-AddiCt
      @Golfing-AddiCt 11 днів тому

      Looks are subjective, I think they look fantastic, an ugly looking iron is the Cobra irons or the frankenstein PXG range of clubs with its mass of bolt heads all over it, now they are fugly.!

  • @Phillipsgolf303
    @Phillipsgolf303 Місяць тому

    Second woohoo

  • @tomleighty6476
    @tomleighty6476 15 днів тому

    Often we have found your reviews valuable. However we were extremely disappointed in this one due to your uncharacteristic unapologetic condescension. Obviously you do not understand the audience for equipment these days. It is the mid and high handicappers that keep the equipment business alive! Hopefully you will approach future reviews with a healthy respect for the audience.

  • @Fractalgeek
    @Fractalgeek Місяць тому

    You know exactly where you are:
    MP series - Trad look blades
    JPX series - Flat out "what can we do"
    925 - model released in 2025
    Then they optimise the gapping, and launch/descent angles re swing speed:
    HM - Hot metal Game improver
    HL - High launch for slow swing speeds
    Pro - slightly thinner, higher swing speeds, lower launch

  • @davidtomsett
    @davidtomsett Місяць тому

    Fifth whoohoo

  • @blackheart7886
    @blackheart7886 Місяць тому

    They are SOOOOO ugly.