"I rode him five times and never got beat with him. He beat all the champions in the Breeder´s cup. When people ask me who´s the best turf horse I´ve ridden, I say Manila" Jose Santos (1961- ) Retired jockey
What a great ride. Jose was along the rail moving up as they entered the turn for home, and looked like he was going to go through, but the lead horse blocked his path and he had to pull Manilla up and then swing to the outside and start running again. You will not see a better ride than this.
9-1 and the only horse I bet that day! Went to the track at 6am placed a significant early bird win wager made it home later in the day and caught the race live from the 1/4 pole!!! Could Not Believe he was 8.90-1.
I had Manila at 9-2 in the UN that year and earlier at Belmont he ran 1-2-3 with entrymates Glow and Pillaster to pay 2.80, 3.80 and 3.40. Accountant friend had 1500 to show on the entry on the grounds all three couldn't run off the board. I skipped this BC wish I hadn't: 8-1 was a steal.
Manila was FANTASTIC to say the least, i could put only one horse ahead of him that ran on the grass and that was the immortal John Henry.......Lastly that field Manila beat in 1986 was loaded, Dancing Brave was one of the five best turf runners that ever lived and Theatrical was awesome and dont forget the filly Estrapade
I'm so tried of hearing all these excuses as to why Dancing Brave lost. Try this excuse: "He didnt like Left Handed racecourses!" Both of Dancing Braves loses (Derby, BC Turf) were on Left Handed Racecourses.
Why did these horses not come to Europe to race. Is it because they may not have passed the juice test. Not one of these horses would of beaten Dancing brave in England or the arc for that matter. Hard to prove but how many American horses have come over here and nailed it. We don't even consider your horses. It seems impossible for a horse to run 2:24 , when most run 2:28. That's impossible and you know which horse I am talking about.
i always think it should be like the ryder cup europe, then america but it would probably be too difficult to set up tho ?? as for dancing brave the whole lead up to this race seemed ominous to me, he was set for defeat before he entered the stalls, his run up to the race was hampered with problems, also the slow early pace , and round and round track was against him. no disrepect to the first three but dancing brave never quickened at all like he usually did. he just ran flat and lifeless just like another legendary horse shergar did when only fourth in his last race the st.leger...
Dancing Brave didnt quicken at all, got dirt in His Eye too. The tactical slow pace didnt suit Him either. After a long Season and this His 7th race , it was a defeat waiting to happen. But Nobody will Ever know had it been in Europe who would have Won , the first three Home were top notch Horses, with the 2nd Theatrical winning this race the following Year ......
"I rode him five times and never got beat with him. He beat all the champions in the Breeder´s cup. When people ask me who´s the best turf horse I´ve ridden, I say Manila"
Jose Santos
(1961- )
Retired jockey
great ride Mr. Santos. hope your retirement is going well.
I bet on Manila three times, including a nice jackpot this day -- never lost ...
Fun Times!
What a great ride. Jose was along the rail moving up as they entered the turn for home, and looked like he was going to go through, but the lead horse blocked his path and he had to pull Manilla up and then swing to the outside and start running again. You will not see a better ride than this.
He got Manila stopped. And dropped his whip too! Great ride?? More like great horse won despite of his jockey.
9-1 and the only horse I bet that day! Went to the track at 6am placed a significant early bird win wager made it home later in the day and caught the race live from the 1/4 pole!!! Could Not Believe he was 8.90-1.
Well done, kind sir!!
The BC took the sport to a whole new level.
Manila-The Best American grass horse ever, end of statement!
Doesn't say much
@@quick46 He beat ALL Foreign invader horses as well ...
He was far from the odds on fave that day ...
No, I am!
Signed,
Round Table
Dancing Brave was a great European horse, which made him a fair-to-middling horse here in the States (hehe).
Haha Theatrical was not within 14lb of DB.
@@mallafets Fake news!
@@mallafets jk
One of the greatest grass horses that ever lived, WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!
If Manila had been brought to europe, dancing Brave would have toasted him. also triptych, Sharastani and several other european horses of '86
@@stevo62ful they should have it in europe too like the Ryder cup, but no drugs allowed in europe so the americans wouldnt come.....
!!!!
It's no secret that Europe's 2nd best horses come here and do great, however their Champions struggle on our courses.
I had Manila at 9-2 in the UN that year and earlier at Belmont he ran 1-2-3 with entrymates Glow and Pillaster to pay 2.80, 3.80 and 3.40. Accountant friend had 1500 to show on the entry on the grounds all three couldn't run off the board. I skipped this BC wish I hadn't: 8-1 was a steal.
Some big time turf talent in this field!!!
Yes it was ..
I completely agree with your statement!
What a day
Manila was FANTASTIC to say the least, i could put only one horse ahead of him that ran on the grass and that was the immortal John Henry.......Lastly that field Manila beat in 1986 was loaded, Dancing Brave was one of the five best turf runners that ever lived and Theatrical was awesome and dont forget the filly Estrapade
Dahar was no slouch either.
IS MANILA FROM THE PHILIPPINES?
114- 86....Saros
better on turf
Thats cause of DB isnt a total crack.
I'm so tried of hearing all these excuses as to why Dancing Brave lost. Try this excuse: "He didnt like Left Handed racecourses!"
Both of Dancing Braves loses (Derby, BC Turf) were on Left Handed Racecourses.
The Derby was purely pilot error. The BC was a tired and unwell horse, should never have ran.
At 0:40, Dancing Brave was hit in the eye by a clot of turf.
Why did these horses not come to Europe to race. Is it because they may not have passed the juice test. Not one of these horses would of beaten Dancing brave in England or the arc for that matter. Hard to prove but how many American horses have come over here and nailed it. We don't even consider your horses. It seems impossible for a horse to run 2:24 , when most run 2:28. That's impossible and you know which horse I am talking about.
+Cyril J Oh, you're talking about Flintshire, I guess, but he ran a 2:23, (Sword Dancer), not a 2:24. ;-)
Lol.. you sound like a bitter loser.. finding pathetic excuses
American horses can't run clockwise, something kinda like driving on the other side of the road.
i always think it should be like the ryder cup europe, then america but it would probably be too difficult to set up tho ?? as for dancing brave the whole lead up to this race seemed ominous to me, he was set for defeat before he entered the stalls, his run up to the race was hampered with problems, also the slow early pace , and round and round track was against him. no disrepect to the first three but dancing brave never quickened at all like he usually did. he just ran flat and lifeless just like another legendary horse shergar did when only fourth in his last race the st.leger...
Manila wouldn't have made the top five in the arc. Dancing Brave wasn't himself here
Dancing Brave didnt quicken at all, got dirt in His Eye too. The tactical slow pace didnt suit Him either. After a long Season and this His 7th race , it was a defeat waiting to happen. But Nobody will Ever know had it been in Europe who would have Won , the first three Home were top notch Horses, with the 2nd Theatrical winning this race the following Year ......