@@BrianFlyingPenguin It wasn't. 300 or 500 per helipad vs 1500 per bomber. But what do you expect, when both players are bad, but GDI one is more lucky.
I love the aesthetic and the atmosphere of Tiberian Sun universe (in this game). Titans are awesome! Overwhelming, reminds me of mass produced Sherman tanks.
I always won back in the day with NOD on that tech tree setting. You're an absolute madlad with GDI. I'm playing this over with my old style in my head and you'd likely win 10 out of 10 times. Proving that GDI only needs a bit of uber micro to prove itself. I enjoyed this much more than many think. Absolutely insane.
Yes, GDI is overpowered compared to NOD, especially when NOD lack true late game units, since Stealth Tank can't compare to Disruptor and Banshee to Mammoth. Mid game NOD is good, late game... pff.
6:55 As a commander you can only tip your hat to that level of defence, you know your in for a real battle and have to step your game up to win #respect
@@zoom3000 Every faction have their own radical diferences and philosophies of war. GDI uses more conventional estrategies, relieing on air mobility, more armored units, and heavy firepower. NOD relies on the hi technologies, like the stealth tecnology, fastest and quick units, and obviously the use of mass destruction weapons like the multi missile, and chemical missiles. You can have one like your major favourite, but the two factions are fine to win if you are handly with its weapons, units and tactics.
@@zoom3000 I like more GDI, but I played the two Campaings, and NOD have several things I liked too. Like the Mobile Repair Vehicle, and the Subterranean APC can be a pain ass in the battlefiled. On Firestorm was nice the balance on the units made with the addition of the Juggernaut mobile artillery, and I liked the cool Mobile Stealth Generator. :-D
Evil sir. You toyed with him the moment you got your Disruptors. 6 of them behind a few jet packs to take sam hits. Drop disruptors and its gg in the first 7 minutes. Thank you though, so many memories!
That I can agree. So, he is either toying or he is also a bad player... in my opinion both are bad. They could push for victory, but they didn't. NOD guy could send 1-2 flames and a SUB to end this match at the beginning, but he sendend buggy's and allowed him to grow to te point of disruptors and that is more or less game over.
There are hotkeys, though not for everything. Rebuild last option, place building, select all units of same time, deploy, stop, repair, sell and so on. . . Custom clients help in some degree with that.
Both are very cool. In 21 days a custom campaign for SC2 will release, called ued first light, wich adds an entire new faction and campaign. The design and sounds of the new units heavily remind of c&c. Like a matured SC2.
I think if the game is going to go this long its worth it to just get that Ion Cannon. He's leaning heavily on the EMP for defense, so killing it with the Ion right as you strike just ends the game.
@@zoom3000 hopefully he has better sportsmanship next time. Looked to me like he could have made a comeback. You're a menace with those Orca bombers tho
Nice old good rts gameplay with some early harash and taking enemy harash abilities away. I wonder how is faction balance in tiberian sun for competitive play? Really hoping for a remaster for this classic!
There is harass, long range weapons different tactics but I always felt GDI were strongest there's really not much NOD can do against mass titans or disrupters, awesome music in this game !!
I think like that: for the average players - Nod will be the best becase it is easy to defend with them. for the more advance players, you can use GDI if you know how to attack and be fast. for more pro players, Nod again can be great choise because of mass bunshees, arts and stealth mainly. but - for the omfg friking 20 years players who knows everything about this game, have a good speed, GDI is OP. Mass hover bunker will smash everything, while mass of orca bombers can destroy the enemy easy - GG
Yeah Nod were decent for mid tier players back in the day. I was usually around top 500, never much better than that. Safer against noobs who might pull off a lucky rush if you’re not paying attention. I would just turtle up and the take out the key structures in one Banshee run. Simple yet effective
@@zoom3000 I always felt as though GDI were conceptually much better realised in TS. As in Westwood had a clear idea how they wanted each faction to play but GDI were a much better manifestation of that than Nod. They dropped the ball with cyborgs (essentially vehicles who behave like infantry) who were cool in concept, bad in execution. If you could have upgraded cyborgs to have rockets or flamethrowers it would have been game changing. I guess that’s what the Reaper did in Firestorm.
Best game out of the C&Cs i think. I was in a clan called pvzzle and played against many strong opponents like stefor, dachziege, dachamp etc. I might have to reload this up and play again
Comment for supporting. When NOD is under the shield of invisibility why do not use attack through the "ctrl" key? Bomber will attack that point on the ground. If building is there - it will be destroyed. You learned all the locations already. No need to fly around, waiting for buildings to appear and wasting aircraft.
He does bomb them while they are invisible. Him flying the planes around on the spot is waiting for them to get shot down so they do damage when falling
waiiiit ,isn t this guy axel actually that guy mrcachaseal ,he used to have a youtube channel and was playing only tibsun some years ago ,and usually did the same things bansee or mammoth with dgi
@@zoom3000 I kinda like it like that. The music was good in the games, but it beats hearing load and clear 100 times. It's nice changing things up, especially 1v1
gdi isnt better, the nod player just didnt have a clue, once you have a few sams and artillery with stealth, nod wins. Smash titan attacks with deployed tick tanks easily also.
@steriskyline4470 yeah but I feel like the simplicity of gdi troop composition makes them superior. Easier to macro since their rolls are direct. Basically terran from sc2. Drop pods are a nice harassment tool as well.
Mike Henny dude you just brought back a memory from scouts as a kid we got to make flags for some game and I convinced the group to make the nod flag and the adults thought we made a nazi flag didn’t end well
Basically when the internet connection is slow (has long delay), then this latency mode will go to worst... It's basically the time (delay) between a click and the unit actually following through with that command. Worse means a larger delay.
Hey, It was written cynically. Everyone who play for the last, I duuno, maybe 14-15 years knows that axel1212 plays every day in the same game, in the same map, but he still has a very hard time beating other players.
I think you would have done better if you built more refineries 🤣 To be fair he had a massive amount of airpower which could have easily flown into your base and took out both your MCV's...
If they could make it the way Starcraft made Starcraft 2 like its still the same just better graphics... just sayin coz even now SC2 is dominating competitive RTS games
I beat Alex1212 many times he takes breaks and stops playing me for a while i get rusty on that map cause no one plays but him and the Alex beat5s me a couple times then i get my mojo back and start beating him again :)
well played ! why is that guy legendary? 11 min into the game he doesnt have 1 artilery to counter your titans !.. dafaq :)) also late game the same art deployed but no tanks around it to def..all he did the entrire game is 10 banshee and 3 comando cyborgs.. in 5 min i m on top of your ore machines with my comando cyborg chewing their ass.. You harassed but in a bad way ..using so many bombers just to unstealth and hit a building or two..also loosing 6-7 titans for what at the begining?:) you dont go with titans and no disrupters m8 as those are the dmg dealers in GDI army//also NOD banshee is hell for tanks ..not having some anti air aswell as those hooverboards are the best anti air units in the game really makes me sad ..combined with the best air atack orca bombers .. you cannot attack as GDI and have no bobmers to destroy the artilery on your way :) not in this game.. bombers+ rest of the army is esential .. NOD sucks at being ofesive..but its great at holding the ground and defending positions.
hes legendary for being extremely shit, banning all good players from his games, and only playing that one horrible map and nothing else ever. I'm also fairly certain hes a convicted child rapist.
That is true. And thats why I called them bad players, both of them. One can't use NOD units at all (no artillery, no flames, no APC's even for distraction), the other one, is not very cost efficient at all. He pays 1500 for 300 or 500 forgot how much NOD helipad costs.
@@zoom3000 Hey, my bad for slating. I didn't realise who this guy you were playing against was. After reading the comments I can tell you were playing with him haha. Thanks for the reply, and thanks for all your uploads. I watch them on a regular basis. Also, keep the music volume up! :D
Mouse players.. 😮💨 learn the keyboard shortcuts. It's faster. Sidenote: I miss the soundtrack to this game. It was so neat and the undertone fit perfectly to the game, like skin.
the legendary. lol. would have smoked them both inside and out back in the competetive days. - pinball. i remember the good old days os ziege, schaf, midsky, dreadnod etc.
Dude pulls his internet jack out at the end to avoid a genuine loss; real pro move right there
omg David Armostong? the real David from Operation Flashpoint ;)
This game brings back so many good memories it’s elite!!!
That double engi repair on the mcv @ 18 mins was amazing. Nicely done.
So atmospheric and still cool. Best part of tiberium universe.
How do the human race pronounce your name?
@@carolmcinnis1252 never seen Russian? Or any other language not English?- get out more
4:32 what a great way to do the last hit on that thing xD.
bit of luck as you cant tell when or where they hit
I don't think it was cost-efficient.
@@BrianFlyingPenguin 🤣🤣🤣
crazy good play
@@BrianFlyingPenguin It wasn't. 300 or 500 per helipad vs 1500 per bomber. But what do you expect, when both players are bad, but GDI one is more lucky.
I love the aesthetic and the atmosphere of Tiberian Sun universe (in this game). Titans are awesome! Overwhelming, reminds me of mass produced Sherman tanks.
In tiberian sun music was so cool.
Frank Klepacki
@@Jimbogf jarrid mendelson also did some great work in the soundtrack, such a shame he left the industry
I always won back in the day with NOD on that tech tree setting. You're an absolute madlad with GDI. I'm playing this over with my old style in my head and you'd likely win 10 out of 10 times. Proving that GDI only needs a bit of uber micro to prove itself. I enjoyed this much more than many think. Absolutely insane.
Yes, GDI is overpowered compared to NOD, especially when NOD lack true late game units, since Stealth Tank can't compare to Disruptor and Banshee to Mammoth. Mid game NOD is good, late game... pff.
6:55 As a commander you can only tip your hat to that level of defence, you know your in for a real battle and have to step your game up to win #respect
i kinda like his "impulse all the titans then destroy them with cyborg" technicue xD
that comando cyborg is no match for titans anyway :P
Zoom you are my hero for beating this guy
What a rage quit lol
I love it when axel emps his own base!
that was a pretty brutal match not gonna lie
Great strategy!
Wow, you beat him! But he deserves this map to be called "AXEL1212 map" )))
One of the best music ambience ever.
lol they wait until they're beat to pull the "but you played the WRONG faction"
Advbnm😊
A River Runs Near it. Beautyfull. And nice to see you finaly playing in the GDI faction :-D
Yea, i think ill start play with GDI more. Basicly NOD have better defence, thats y the most people play with nod online
@@zoom3000 Every faction have their own radical diferences and philosophies of war. GDI uses more conventional estrategies, relieing on air mobility, more armored units, and heavy firepower. NOD relies on the hi technologies, like the stealth tecnology, fastest and quick units, and obviously the use of mass destruction weapons like the multi missile, and chemical missiles. You can have one like your major favourite, but the two factions are fine to win if you are handly with its weapons, units and tactics.
@@zoom3000 I like more GDI, but I played the two Campaings, and NOD have several things I liked too. Like the Mobile Repair Vehicle, and the Subterranean APC can be a pain ass in the battlefiled. On Firestorm was nice the balance on the units made with the addition of the Juggernaut mobile artillery, and I liked the cool Mobile Stealth Generator. :-D
Evil sir. You toyed with him the moment you got your Disruptors. 6 of them behind a few jet packs to take sam hits. Drop disruptors and its gg in the first 7 minutes. Thank you though, so many memories!
That I can agree. So, he is either toying or he is also a bad player... in my opinion both are bad. They could push for victory, but they didn't. NOD guy could send 1-2 flames and a SUB to end this match at the beginning, but he sendend buggy's and allowed him to grow to te point of disruptors and that is more or less game over.
I can physically feel the lack of hotkeys. Didn't age too well unfortunaltely
Very interesting to see some high level gameplay tho, wp.
That what's make it better than Starcraft in my opinion.
There are hotkeys, though not for everything. Rebuild last option, place building, select all units of same time, deploy, stop, repair, sell and so on. . . Custom clients help in some degree with that.
i really like the graphics of this
This is so much more entertaining than a SC2 match.
hey, what do you mean SC2?
@@zoom3000 Starcraft 2
ya Brood War or no war
Both are very cool. In 21 days a custom campaign for SC2 will release, called ued first light, wich adds an entire new faction and campaign. The design and sounds of the new units heavily remind of c&c. Like a matured SC2.
I always used to make full walls and concrete to prevent the subterranean units nod had. I miss this game.
Lmao connection problem xD "oops"
Dude sold the tech centre twice while only having 1 heli pad 🤦♂️, what a legend.
I think if the game is going to go this long its worth it to just get that Ion Cannon. He's leaning heavily on the EMP for defense, so killing it with the Ion right as you strike just ends the game.
this was actually very entertaining even without commentary. Great match from both
Thanks supwidit, I can rematch whit Axel, he still play the same map every day ;)
@@zoom3000 hopefully he has better sportsmanship next time. Looked to me like he could have made a comeback. You're a menace with those Orca bombers tho
Find it odd that axel1212 and fatslob get shamed for playing the same map, but counter-strike/COD/Battlefield people don't.
Nice old good rts gameplay with some early harash and taking enemy harash abilities away. I wonder how is faction balance in tiberian sun for competitive play? Really hoping for a remaster for this classic!
Best command and conquer game
There is harass, long range weapons different tactics but I always felt GDI were strongest there's really not much NOD can do against mass titans or disrupters, awesome music in this game !!
I think like that:
for the average players - Nod will be the best becase it is easy to defend with them.
for the more advance players, you can use GDI if you know how to attack and be fast.
for more pro players, Nod again can be great choise because of mass bunshees, arts and stealth mainly.
but - for the omfg friking 20 years players who knows everything about this game, have a good speed, GDI is OP. Mass hover bunker will smash everything, while mass of orca bombers can destroy the enemy easy - GG
Yeah Nod were decent for mid tier players back in the day. I was usually around top 500, never much better than that.
Safer against noobs who might pull off a lucky rush if you’re not paying attention. I would just turtle up and the take out the key structures in one Banshee run. Simple yet effective
@@zoom3000 I always felt as though GDI were conceptually much better realised in TS. As in Westwood had a clear idea how they wanted each faction to play but GDI were a much better manifestation of that than Nod.
They dropped the ball with cyborgs (essentially vehicles who behave like infantry) who were cool in concept, bad in execution. If you could have upgraded cyborgs to have rockets or flamethrowers it would have been game changing. I guess that’s what the Reaper did in Firestorm.
the music is sooo good
i played this game sooo much in 2001 maybe 2002 holy guacamoly
i've expected an engineers drop from nod
lamo "you must be proud" that dude must be so cool (joke)
nostalgia is hard here though i would have just rushed cons yard + wf asap and not slugged
love the bgm on 10:48
Best game out of the C&Cs i think. I was in a clan called pvzzle and played against many strong opponents like stefor, dachziege, dachamp etc. I might have to reload this up and play again
Are tiberian sun servers still available to play? Last time I used it things were all controlled by Westwood studios
@@chrisgordon680you can with c&cnet, google it 😊
Comment for supporting.
When NOD is under the shield of invisibility why do not use attack through the "ctrl" key? Bomber will attack that point on the ground. If building is there - it will be destroyed. You learned all the locations already. No need to fly around, waiting for buildings to appear and wasting aircraft.
He does bomb them while they are invisible.
Him flying the planes around on the spot is waiting for them to get shot down so they do damage when falling
how did he get that resolution on fulscreen
axel1212 sucks, plays 1 map, and loses to any 1-2 ref 100% of the time, rages and bans people....legendary indeed
It was half jock lol
Are you playing on 1080P if so... how?
Weird, pros doesn't close their main CY, just run with engineer and voila
That's more of a single player speedrun strat.
waiiiit ,isn t this guy axel actually that guy mrcachaseal ,he used to have a youtube channel and was playing only tibsun some years ago ,and usually did the same things bansee or mammoth with dgi
14:00 did not go well
Jo next time make the music volum lower pls. xD
Yep, u right. usually i set it between 60-70, i forgot to do it, and music volume is 100. OOPS!
@@zoom3000 I kinda like it like that. The music was good in the games, but it beats hearing load and clear 100 times. It's nice changing things up, especially 1v1
@@zoom3000 u pro use GDI
tiberium riparius
its a little odd how much better Gdi is over nod. GG.
Yeah but nod is more fun
gdi isnt better, the nod player just didnt have a clue, once you have a few sams and artillery with stealth, nod wins. Smash titan attacks with deployed tick tanks easily also.
@steriskyline4470 yeah but I feel like the simplicity of gdi troop composition makes them superior. Easier to macro since their rolls are direct. Basically terran from sc2. Drop pods are a nice harassment tool as well.
@steriskyline4470 I will say though.. nod having rocket infantry is pretty sick though.
Haha he actually DCed himself, what a noob
Why can you still build tier 3 units after selling the tech center?
Tiberian Sun is different from other C&C games. You can sell the tech center for example, and still build tier 3 units.
Good Match!, Greetings from Sir_DooM
Decided to play GDI this time you traitor?
Why is he a traitor
@@CasualTank Cause his recent videos in this, he's normally playing as Nod, but now he's playing as GDI
Mike Henny didn’t you hear if you like the “bad guys” you a nazi
@@thoughtpolice2191 It doesn't help that Nod's main colors are red and black, does it?
Mike Henny dude you just brought back a memory from scouts as a kid we got to make flags for some game and I convinced the group to make the nod flag and the adults thought we made a nazi flag didn’t end well
Is this Tiberian sun ..or the Firestorm 2nd add on? Commando cyborg is weaker then i remember it ..
he is just strong in the early game with less defence i guess. I just remember him as rush unit to destroy enemy Construction Yard as fast as possible
@@hendrik289 he s strong anytime ingame..but he must ve been nerfed in Firestorm..in the first Tiberian he could wipe your base all alone.
He did what at the end?!? Lol
What is latency mode?
Basically when the internet connection is slow (has long delay), then this latency mode will go to worst... It's basically the time (delay) between a click and the unit actually following through with that command. Worse means a larger delay.
I have played a match with zoom3000 in multiplayer
first dizz on cliff, war and ref before he strealthed
Request for rematch and use NOD and see what he say when he loses
He will say just you need use just GDI lol
I missed this game i always give my brother a bug problem vertisdroids eat his base
Nowadays Tiberian Sun is free game, you can just download and play it
@@zoom3000 you have the link i go and check it out thanks
I wonder in which decade u guys been active coz when I played like 20 years ago i remember the real legends. Never heard of u tho...
Hey, It was written cynically. Everyone who play for the last, I duuno, maybe 14-15 years knows that axel1212 plays every day in the same game, in the same map, but he still has a very hard time beating other players.
@@zoom3000 what does that mean?
@@mar1obremen That someone is harassing a bad player and call himself a king, lol.
is it a game for an ant?
You pro GDI
I think you would have done better if you built more refineries 🤣
To be fair he had a massive amount of airpower which could have easily flown into your base and took out both your MCV's...
Axel was too busy defending his base from zoom's constant attacks.
I will like to arrange 1 on 1 with you
Bit unfair that you start next to blue tib and he does not?
Well, this map is not very balance, its not a mod map. BTW, he choose the map, and we didnt choose locations, so it was random.
If they could make it the way Starcraft made Starcraft 2 like its still the same just better graphics... just sayin coz even now SC2 is dominating competitive RTS games
I beat Alex1212 many times he takes breaks and stops playing me for a while i get rusty on that map cause no one plays but him and the Alex beat5s me a couple times then i get my mojo back and start beating him again :)
This is not a pro game 😂
Cool!
lol that bm
GG
well played ! why is that guy legendary? 11 min into the game he doesnt have 1 artilery to counter your titans !.. dafaq :)) also late game the same art deployed but no tanks around it to def..all he did the entrire game is 10 banshee and 3 comando cyborgs.. in 5 min i m on top of your ore machines with my comando cyborg chewing their ass.. You harassed but in a bad way ..using so many bombers just to unstealth and hit a building or two..also loosing 6-7 titans for what at the begining?:) you dont go with titans and no disrupters m8 as those are the dmg dealers in GDI army//also NOD banshee is hell for tanks ..not having some anti air aswell as those hooverboards are the best anti air units in the game really makes me sad ..combined with the best air atack orca bombers .. you cannot attack as GDI and have no bobmers to destroy the artilery on your way :) not in this game.. bombers+ rest of the army is esential .. NOD sucks at being ofesive..but its great at holding the ground and defending positions.
hes legendary for being extremely shit, banning all good players from his games, and only playing that one horrible map and nothing else ever. I'm also fairly certain hes a convicted child rapist.
@@Rykojames LMAO, the way that there is drama in every fxcing game xD
That is true. And thats why I called them bad players, both of them. One can't use NOD units at all (no artillery, no flames, no APC's even for distraction), the other one, is not very cost efficient at all. He pays 1500 for 300 or 500 forgot how much NOD helipad costs.
omg what a sound ??"?"?!?!?!?
why does he always play on the same map? that's boring
Because that what he is... for him it's not boring.
Lol so much salt at the end, is the whole community this toxic?
It is and that's a large reason why this game is almost dead now sadly
Very good game
Thanx for the comment Peter
This game needs some desperate QOL updates. Hope OpenRA releases TS one day
gg
Watching this after a Starcraft Broodwar match.. Goddamn this game is slow
Mad rap
♥
not your best game, zoom
Didnt try my best in this one
@@zoom3000 Hey, my bad for slating. I didn't realise who this guy you were playing against was. After reading the comments I can tell you were playing with him haha.
Thanks for the reply, and thanks for all your uploads. I watch them on a regular basis.
Also, keep the music volume up! :D
Mouse players.. 😮💨 learn the keyboard shortcuts. It's faster.
Sidenote: I miss the soundtrack to this game. It was so neat and the undertone fit perfectly to the game, like skin.
Neither of these players are legendary. So many mistakes on both sides.
Then please show us how it's done
@@nasilemak868 And after 3 years Ezee Peazy still did not show us how it's done
bad play
the legendary. lol. would have smoked them both inside and out back in the competetive days. - pinball. i remember the good old days os ziege, schaf, midsky, dreadnod etc.
lol this is some trash tier gameplay if I ever saw it