Too many drummers judge cymbals by the cost, and think that's what matters. Wrong. I've played some B8PRO and B8s that sounded amazing. It's not the price that matters, it's about what your ears like. These sound great!
i just got a pack of these yesterday, and they sound absolutely incredible. I compare them to my custom a's soundwise, but what really sets them apart and makes them better is their sensitivity. You dont really have to crush them to get them to open up. i highly recommend these
That 18" fast crash sounds as good as any high end crash I've ever heard. Actually all the crashes are nice. The ride sounds a bit too heavy to me, but it still doesn't sound bad. Hi hats sound pretty good too.
This is the video that convinced me to buy these. I watched other videos and they didn't sound so good but Nick knows how to make em sing. It was these or the Zildjian A-series and this video sold me on Sabian. Very happy with my choice.
The ride is my favorite addition of the entire series. I used to play with the Xs20 medium ride as an all purpose ride and that was pretty good for most genres of music. But it still could have used some tweaking to make it sound even BETTER. This XSR ride was exactly what wanted!
My church worship leader bought some pst8's because of a budget constraint before I could suggest this pack to him. I use just AAX and HH cymbals, but these are probably the best beginner/intermediate cymbals that exist compared to Zildjian, Paiste, and Meinl. The quality they give for a low price for so many cymbals is just amazing. #teamsabian
The best thing about this though is if you're like me and have a double bass kit with full rack and side extensions the packs give you plenty of great sounding cymbals at low cost,but I suggest definitely adding the 17 and 19 crash to the pack. But when one or more of them start to fall apart you can upgrade to HHX,AAX, or AA and still have your kit full of Sabians.
they sounded amazing in person.. even better then the aaxplosions i had. i tried the 16 and 18 fast crashes. they are great nice and bright and quick decay. I would definately buy them in the future.
I have the 10" splash and it is by far one of the best splashes I have played. I also have the 14" crash. I actually use it for my hi hats. Sometimes as a top and sometimes as a bottom. It works great for both applications. I am personally not a fan of crash cymbals smaller 16" but in the right setting this would be perfect as a small crash.
@@FacsTwo you're not hearing Zildjian A quality cymbals here, there are comparable to Zildjian S series. Sabian HHX sound way better you'll be blown away if you think these are amazing lol
@@vegadrums7 i’ve always seen the AA for sabin the same as the zildjian A, AAX being the same as A Custom, HH as the K line, and HHX being K Custom - but sabian with they’re own sound and zildjian with theirs (zildjian win everytime tho)
as soon as heard this video i bought these cymbals, the ride has a crystal diamond like ping to it , and the 18 is my all time favorite, i play soft and not very loud and they are perfect just the right amount of decay
I love the playing. I use the hats, 16 and 18 crashes and ride for my drumset and what you say is exactly how i feel about them. Their sound is just so versatile, I mostly play metalcore and they provide a powerful sound, but my drum teacher’s jazzy licks sound very accurate too! When it comes to the ride - I think it has a nice amount of wash to it when you hit near the edge, I find it pretty crashy, but if aiming for awesome clarity try a piece of moongel. Combined with a HHX 16” China and a 10” AAX Aero Splash makes a great setup for me. Anyways a good video, I might wanna see some more to broaden my Sabian horizons 😂
For EVERYBODY wanting to know the DEMO song, call Sweetwater in Fort Wayne Indiana and ask the drum department. Somebody there has GOT to know. Make sure you can tell them the products and COLOR of the Ludwig kit just in case.
Always been a Zildjian man myself, but these look and sound great. I'm really warming to these. Are these at the same level as the Zildjian S? The cymbals in the video, although nice sounding are a little on the small side for me. I like big crashes. Are there crashes available in 20''? Also is there a 21'' or 22'' ride available?
i know there is a 20 inch crash for sure... but as far as comparing them to S, there are quite a few differences. These are b20 and the s are b12 but as far as I know they are at a similar price. The xsr sound far better imo because of the metal difference
I own a 20 inch Zildjian A custom crash, it's sound similar to this XSR 18 inch, would be a good pair if you own A custom line up. Meanwhile personally I think Zildjian S cymbals line has brighter and "cheaper" sound (IMHO) compare to this XSR line up.
Hey, izziOnBass. Thanks for reaching out. They are definitely good enough for the studio. I have a set of these and they are great. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
I bought this exactly set. the hi hats and the ride are pretty good !! not a huge difference form the AAX line. HOWEVER, the crashes leave a bit to be desired. They are not harsh in anyway but lack some color.
Guys, I have been on a Wuhan binge lately. 14"hats, 6" 8" 10" 12" splash, 14" 16" 18" thin crashes, 16" linear crash. They sound great. I highly recommend checking them out. The tiny 6" splash is fun! Only cost $22.00 !
It actually makes some sense to put more money into cymbals than the drum kit. You can always swap heads and play with tuning, but there is no cure for cheap cymbals.
@@yazzer4963 Sorry but $600 for 7 cymbals is cheap. The Istanbul Agop 30th Anniversary Ride costs as much as this whole pack but sounds miles better. Good cymbals are not cheap mate. My cymbals costs 5 times what my drumset costs.
I want these cymbals but these r wayyy to much even the pack that comes with the hi hat 2 crashes and the ride is too much so im settling with zildjian s series both cymbals r good
Zildjian S series cymbals are B-12 bronze They are made cheaper than the SXR cymbals which are B-20 bronze. Nick says these cymbals are made from the SAME alloy as the high end cymbals are.
if it's made like the evolutions and explosion sabian's and made with a high end b20 alloy then how is it a cheaper cymbal at all if its all made with high end material?? am I missing something? also they sound just like the old b8pros.
Material is half the story. Man hours are other half. Sabian (much like most companies) charge more for products that require more expertise to manufacture by skilled artisans. A good example is perhaps Tama with their Star series vs. the super/silverstar. Basically, what Sabian has done here is maintain a price point that gives you B20 bronze with automated hammering and good lathing, where both are no where near as much as say an AA or AAX which these sound very similar to. I've tested the XSRs against the AAXplosion crashes and the sound is similar, but main differences are : XSR is tonally brighter, sustain after initial crash is slightly longer and has a faint ring as it washes out; AAXplosion is tonally darker, sustain is less, and no ring. None of these differences are audible when recorded, but are enough to charge $60 less (plus the differences in hammering and automation).
Dayne Diniz you literally proved my point and All ibsaid. if you read the 1st few words I said "Made" which is part of the "man hours"... read carefully next time for what I said that's it. and the whole Tama thing the Tama super star maple sounds better than most high end Tama star drums... I've played seem and tried em. But that one is just imo. anyways. I went to Tcymbals. all hand made. I was a 100% sabian only user but t-cymbals made me switch. better made, quality and price. looks great but really has great sound. for all types and even for custom sounds you're looking for which is the most important thing time in drumming. not what They say is a good sound already made.
I did explain what I meant through stating that they're giving you less lathing and hammering than the AAX/AA series, which was merely an explanation that contained more detail than your initial comment for those curious about prices of these cymbals in comparison to the AAX/AA. I'm still partial to Sabian since I'm in Canada and almost every store sells them here, so support/order waiting times are maximum one month. I could not find any Canadian endorsers of T-cymbals and there's only one dealer in all of Canada. I'm more than happy with Sabian, but to each their own.
Zildjian Sabian Paiste Meinl Planet Z=SBR=101Brass=MCS ZBT=B8 =PST5=Classics A Custom=AAX=PST8=Byzance Brilliant A Zildjian=AA=PST7=Byzance Trad. K Zildjian=HH=2002=Byzance Vint. KCustom=HHX=Masters=Classics Cust. That's all I know. You guys figure out the rest.
I really dislike of that "clang" sound when a cymbal is crashed. No matter the price. But recorded and mixed with the rest of the kit and music you get away with it.
Too many drummers judge cymbals by the cost, and think that's what matters. Wrong. I've played some B8PRO and B8s that sounded amazing. It's not the price that matters, it's about what your ears like. These sound great!
I am always stoked when I click on a demo video and it's Nick behind the kit
i just got a pack of these yesterday, and they sound absolutely incredible. I compare them to my custom a's soundwise, but what really sets them apart and makes them better is their sensitivity. You dont really have to crush them to get them to open up. i highly recommend these
That 18" fast crash sounds as good as any high end crash I've ever heard. Actually all the crashes are nice. The ride sounds a bit too heavy to me, but it still doesn't sound bad. Hi hats sound pretty good too.
I hit on a few xsr fast crashes at a music store and they sound very dead in real life. These recordings do them more justice I think
@@stillshot2 weird i think they sound better than the aaaxplosions. i tried them next to each other and the xsr were a lot more bright and cutting
This is the video that convinced me to buy these. I watched other videos and they didn't sound so good but Nick knows how to make em sing. It was these or the Zildjian A-series and this video sold me on Sabian. Very happy with my choice.
Are we not gonna talk about that gorgeous drum set?
They did a separate video on it.
This man has my dream job, this dude just plays brand new gear everyday and gets paid good money
3/2023 Just got mine after extensive research. These cymbals for the money are insane. Very Happy. Thank you Sweetwater.
Always amazed by Nicks playing
The ride is my favorite addition of the entire series. I used to play with the Xs20 medium ride as an all purpose ride and that was pretty good for most genres of music. But it still could have used some tweaking to make it sound even BETTER. This XSR ride was exactly what wanted!
My church worship leader bought some pst8's because of a budget constraint before I could suggest this pack to him. I use just AAX and HH cymbals, but these are probably the best beginner/intermediate cymbals that exist compared to Zildjian, Paiste, and Meinl. The quality they give for a low price for so many cymbals is just amazing. #teamsabian
These are definitely better than pst8, although, i think they do have some competition against pst 7
Pst7 is amazing, so is Meinl classic custom(B10)
So hard to consider buying their AAX or HHX lines when these sound so good for a fraction of the price.
B20!!!!
They aren't as good as AAX or HH or HHX..but they are a great low to mid grade cymbal
The best thing about this though is if you're like me and have a double bass kit with full rack and side extensions the packs give you plenty of great sounding cymbals at low cost,but I suggest definitely adding the 17 and 19 crash to the pack. But when one or more of them start to fall apart you can upgrade to HHX,AAX, or AA and still have your kit full of Sabians.
Love the PFP representing the eers
For real
they sounded amazing in person.. even better then the aaxplosions i had. i tried the 16 and 18 fast crashes. they are great nice and bright and quick decay. I would definately buy them in the future.
I've watched this video a dozen times and I cant help but laugh a little when it first comes on. Love Nick hes an amazing drummer
I have the 10" splash and it is by far one of the best splashes I have played. I also have the 14" crash. I actually use it for my hi hats. Sometimes as a top and sometimes as a bottom. It works great for both applications. I am personally not a fan of crash cymbals smaller 16" but in the right setting this would be perfect as a small crash.
PURE SABIAN SOUND No.1
Meir Meir. ua-cam.com/video/7LIV1OwEPRo/v-deo.html
18inch sounds amazing
Got these for christmas and they are AMAZING
I'm definitely upgrading from B8's to this
Not a Sabian guy but these sound great
I have the hats, Geez there are truly amazing, the only that sounded better in the store, in my opinion, were the Zildjian A
@@FacsTwo you're not hearing Zildjian A quality cymbals here, there are comparable to Zildjian S series.
Sabian HHX sound way better you'll be blown away if you think these are amazing lol
@@vegadrums7 i’ve always seen the AA for sabin the same as the zildjian A, AAX being the same as A Custom, HH as the K line, and HHX being K Custom - but sabian with they’re own sound and zildjian with theirs (zildjian win everytime tho)
The Zildjian S 22 inch rock ride is amazing but the crashes are definitely inferior to the xsr ones
Yeah, but all I am thinking of is the COLOR of the Ludwig drums...
:-)
Love SABIAN, own a bunch, came here to hear Nick's playing.
the 18 crash is mmmmm so good
It iss
as soon as heard this video i bought these cymbals, the ride has a crystal diamond like ping to it , and the 18 is my all time favorite, i play soft and not very loud and they are perfect just the right amount of decay
The Ride And the 18” crash sound the best🤷🏽♂️
Please review the meinl classics custom cymbal pack! I can decide whether I want these or the classics customs
Personally, I like the meinl classics custom better
Ethan Carlson dude same
Having owned both, the XSR are better cymbals.
Ethan Carlson. you want.paiste sigs
oiyabastard those are pretty expensive. Those probably aren't in his budget
Carnival drum beat? The cymbal muted with the felt a little?
I could hear a little better when I turned my volume ALL the way up! Cymbals are important, the soul of the set if you will!
3:48 IN DRUMMING THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NOT TO BIG
I Love Sabian Cymbals.
I’ve played AAX, HH and HHX. These are up there with them if I had to be honest. For the price, they’re a serious contender
I love the playing. I use the hats, 16 and 18 crashes and ride for my drumset and what you say is exactly how i feel about them. Their sound is just so versatile, I mostly play metalcore and they provide a powerful sound, but my drum teacher’s jazzy licks sound very accurate too! When it comes to the ride - I think it has a nice amount of wash to it when you hit near the edge, I find it pretty crashy, but if aiming for awesome clarity try a piece of moongel. Combined with a HHX 16” China and a 10” AAX Aero Splash makes a great setup for me. Anyways a good video, I might wanna see some more to broaden my Sabian horizons 😂
For EVERYBODY wanting to know the DEMO song, call Sweetwater in Fort Wayne Indiana and ask the drum department. Somebody there has GOT to know. Make sure you can tell them the products and COLOR of the Ludwig kit just in case.
Really like the 14” crash, seems to be that perfect middle ground between a splash and crash.
AT5045 overheads sound great too
Always been a Zildjian man myself, but these look and sound great. I'm really warming to these. Are these at the same level as the Zildjian S? The cymbals in the video, although nice sounding are a little on the small side for me. I like big crashes. Are there crashes available in 20''? Also is there a 21'' or 22'' ride available?
i know there is a 20 inch crash for sure... but as far as comparing them to S, there are quite a few differences. These are b20 and the s are b12 but as far as I know they are at a similar price. The xsr sound far better imo because of the metal difference
I own a 20 inch Zildjian A custom crash, it's sound similar to this XSR 18 inch, would be a good pair if you own A custom line up. Meanwhile personally I think Zildjian S cymbals line has brighter and "cheaper" sound (IMHO) compare to this XSR line up.
i own a 21 inch xsr ride sounds really highly recommend it. its super crashable, bell cuts and lots of stick definition.
Yep, there's a 20" Fast Crash, ,a 20" Monarch Crash, a 21" Medium Ride, and a 22" Monarch Ride, ALL in the XSR range.
I've just got these of Reverb but i don't even have a drum kit yet.😥🥁
whats the name of the song hes playing along to in the beginning ,anyone?
Does these cymbals work well for playing metal??
I wouldn’t use them for metal UNLESS you are a light hitter. They are FAST crashes meaning THIN! Watch the first few minutes. Nick explains this.
Some of them could-they have rock crashes in the Xsr series in 16 and 18
Amazing review! Where can I get last playalong on the end of this video? :)
Great presentation but please mic the cymbals! I really couldn't hear much crisp highs! Thanks
Are these professional cymabals to use for recording studios? TIA
Hey, izziOnBass. Thanks for reaching out. They are definitely good enough for the studio. I have a set of these and they are great.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
I'm thinking of buying the add on set Which has 18" China and 10" splash. For $299
And I'm not a sabian fan but these sound great
go for it! keep in mind the XSR China isnt as trashy. it's more on the washy side but if that's what you're going for then buy them. can't go wrong.
Is this olive sparkle??
Can someone help me decide whether to get this set or the meinl classics
I bought this exactly set. the hi hats and the ride are pretty good !! not a huge difference form the AAX line. HOWEVER, the crashes leave a bit to be desired. They are not harsh in anyway but lack some color.
Theyre gold, what do u expect, purple cymbals are paistes snh
do they have them in a non brilliant finish?
No.
It would be the XS20 classic...same B20 alloy
Let's talk about that Rhodes sound!
If he mounted a potato on a drum set, Nick D could find a way to demonstrate it and i would buy it.
You just said everything that I've been thinking for the past half hour. Thank you.
What kind of Ludwig Set is this exactly? Love the color!
That’s the Ludwig Keystone X Pro Beat drum set.
What snare drum are you using in this video?
Adrian Perez 14 x 6.5 Ludwig Black Beauty!
Thin means not too loud or..?
What Ludwig kit is that one
Please what song is this called ?
Cardboarddrummer Sandstorm.
Can someone tell me the intro groove song by the artist and everything I love it
The song he played along to in the intro ?
Guys, I have been on a Wuhan binge lately. 14"hats, 6" 8" 10" 12" splash, 14" 16" 18" thin crashes, 16" linear crash. They sound great. I highly recommend checking them out. The tiny 6" splash is fun! Only cost $22.00 !
Can you give me a budget cymbal pack. I just used stock cymbal for years 😭😭😭
WUHAN
The b8x's from sabian are better than stocks for sure
Sabian sound kit?
SUPER
Whats that intro groove song?
Firedragon 6298 Pretty sure it’s called Sandstorm.
@@VitoHicks Just googled it, nothing came up
man, this pack costs more than my actual kit haha, they sound good though.
TheTrueHappy these are super cheap ..look at some aa or aax it hhx hats . There 600
It actually makes some sense to put more money into cymbals than the drum kit. You can always swap heads and play with tuning, but there is no cure for cheap cymbals.
Chris Webb you call 600 cheap?
@@yazzer4963 compared to some yes its cheap
@@yazzer4963 Sorry but $600 for 7 cymbals is cheap. The Istanbul Agop 30th Anniversary Ride costs as much as this whole pack but sounds miles better. Good cymbals are not cheap mate. My cymbals costs 5 times what my drumset costs.
B20? They're a steal!!
They sound like A custom cymbals
Really the one time you use factory skins and not Reno heads
I want these cymbals but these r wayyy to much even the pack that comes with the hi hat 2 crashes and the ride is too much so im settling with zildjian s series both cymbals r good
Zildjian S series cymbals are B-12 bronze They are made cheaper than the SXR cymbals which are B-20 bronze. Nick says these cymbals are made from the SAME alloy as the high end cymbals are.
so sad it replaced the xs20 line
these seem too bright and too vintag-y
xs20 used to be extremely dark sounding, especially 20 inch rock ride
vitalik97 XS20 was basically the same cymbals, they just made some changes and got a new name, XSR.
@Phantom jw how about u dont buy them instead of telling ppl what to do
Nice Ludwig continental
if it's made like the evolutions and explosion sabian's and made with a high end b20 alloy then how is it a cheaper cymbal at all if its all made with high end material?? am I missing something? also they sound just like the old b8pros.
Material is half the story. Man hours are other half. Sabian (much like most companies) charge more for products that require more expertise to manufacture by skilled artisans. A good example is perhaps Tama with their Star series vs. the super/silverstar. Basically, what Sabian has done here is maintain a price point that gives you B20 bronze with automated hammering and good lathing, where both are no where near as much as say an AA or AAX which these sound very similar to. I've tested the XSRs against the AAXplosion crashes and the sound is similar, but main differences are : XSR is tonally brighter, sustain after initial crash is slightly longer and has a faint ring as it washes out; AAXplosion is tonally darker, sustain is less, and no ring. None of these differences are audible when recorded, but are enough to charge $60 less (plus the differences in hammering and automation).
Dayne Diniz you literally proved my point and All ibsaid. if you read the 1st few words I said "Made" which is part of the "man hours"... read carefully next time for what I said that's it. and the whole Tama thing the Tama super star maple sounds better than most high end Tama star drums... I've played seem and tried em. But that one is just imo. anyways. I went to Tcymbals. all hand made. I was a 100% sabian only user but t-cymbals made me switch. better made, quality and price. looks great but really has great sound. for all types and even for custom sounds you're looking for which is the most important thing time in drumming. not what They say is a good sound already made.
I did explain what I meant through stating that they're giving you less lathing and hammering than the AAX/AA series, which was merely an explanation that contained more detail than your initial comment for those curious about prices of these cymbals in comparison to the AAX/AA.
I'm still partial to Sabian since I'm in Canada and almost every store sells them here, so support/order waiting times are maximum one month. I could not find any Canadian endorsers of T-cymbals and there's only one dealer in all of Canada. I'm more than happy with Sabian, but to each their own.
Bruh it'a cause they make so much money that they wanted to make some affordable that actually sound good.
Isis Cruz. i play paiste signatures . i had en since 1995
Zildjian Sabian Paiste Meinl
Planet Z=SBR=101Brass=MCS
ZBT=B8 =PST5=Classics
A Custom=AAX=PST8=Byzance Brilliant
A Zildjian=AA=PST7=Byzance Trad.
K Zildjian=HH=2002=Byzance Vint.
KCustom=HHX=Masters=Classics Cust.
That's all I know. You guys figure out the rest.
They sound great but I'm more of a zildjian guy
I really dislike of that "clang" sound when a cymbal is crashed. No matter the price. But recorded and mixed with the rest of the kit and music you get away with it.
XS20 with a rebadge
👎
Still paid less for my B20 these are a joke lol
That snare sounds incredible