Thanks for this review. I like what you had to say about the Fenix. I was tempted to buy one for night mountain biking. But my sticking point is I don't like the fact that there's no power in between 1600 and 600. That's a large gap. So I'm really giving the cygo lite ranger endurance a hard look right now and the cateye 1100 ampp. I really want 800+ lumens with a reliable 2.5+ hours. Well nicely done and thanks for putting the effort into this video.
For mountain biking, I really like having two lights. One on my bars and one on my helmet. Using the Fenix in get two lights at 600 which seems perfect.
@@TroyOnTrails Thanks for the response! So my primary focus is single track MTB night riding. I already ride with about 600 lumens on my head and 600 on the bars. I was looking for a second light to add to the bars for more light and redundancy. I need more light because I've started riding with faster trail riders. My night rides are usually about 2-2.5 hours and I don't want to worry about battery. If you actually got 3.5 hours on Turbo then that would be more than enough. What about mount quality, do you think it will take the bouncing on trails without issue? Thanks my friend.
I have been using the Fenix BC26R for about 2 years now and it has always done its job. I can easily switch between the different light intensities. It is very robust. Charging the battery is very fast. The battery life is good. I have another light on my other bike, but I am going to replace it with a Fenix BC26R.
I clicked and was going to immediately complain that you probably didn't hear about the Fenix BC26R like most people here in the UK. This is a pleasant surprise :D Got 2 of them for myself and the missus, got spare batteries and a charger, never had the disconnect issue you had (yet). Great to know about the differences between the Fenix and Wuben. I'm planning on doing more audax riding next year so the Wuben might actually come in handy, thanks!
I hope you never see the disconnect problem. I know several people who faced this after I told them to buy a Fenix. But the newer lights haven't faced this issue.
My wishlist : Takes 18650 batteries. I have a powerbank that uses 18650 batteries, so I like idea of swapping around batteries if needed. It makes them multipurpose. Can be mounted right side up or upside down. I have a helmet mount and an under computer mount. Has the beam cutoff. I don't see the need to throw the beam up so high and I quite often blind oncoming riders / pedestrians. Connects to my Garmin light network, like the Varia does. Being able to change light modes without having to feel around for the buttons makes life easier. So far I haven't found a light that ticks all those boxes, but I'll keep looking.
The Fenix BC21R (the BC26R's smaller sibling) takes 18650 cells and this is a little smaller. I think it checks every box but your Garmin light network.
The last box is the most difficult to check. I don’t think smart control support on front lights are very widespread (because it’s in front of you anyway).
I don’t know the brand, but I saw someone using a battery bank which holds the bigger 21700 batteries, so I know that exists - might help shorten your list!
Great review! I have a suggestion you can check out is the Enfitnix navi800: - 800 lumens - replaceable 18650 (con is proprietary coz their 18650 battery has a chip on it, dunno why and I have tested different 18650 brands it wont turn on). -It has a cut-off light and has low mid high and flash. - auto and on with memory mode. - it can be flipped upside-down if you have a bike computer mount with a gopro adapter.
@TroyOnTrails yeah.. Its weird and i bought the light(assuming) it would be compatible with a regular 18650(as I have 20 batteries). I dunno why it needs a chip but i use majority in flash and last a long time "ESTIMATED" moving time of 30-40 hours-ish before I get a low battery sign.
Obviously, you haven't seen Lumintop B01. That's the bikpackers ultimate headlight in my country. Not only it has removable 18650/21700 battery but also it can be plug via USB-C to regular powerbank.
In my area it’s Enfitnix Navi 800. Basically the same thing, removable 18650 and USB-C simultaneous charging. There are quite many choices out there these days.
I'm familiar with Lumentop. They were the first alternative with a replaceable battery a few years ago. I haven't tried it but honestly, the mount looks questionable and the battery life is not great either. Can it run off USB without a battery in it? What is your country?
Can either of these run off a battery bank ? I have a Giyo GL-M900T. it's a built in 18650 with 1/4 turn mount, but the ace up it's sleeve [for a £16 light] is that it will charge and run off the usb so you can power it from an external powerbank. It's not claimed nor mentioned in the manual, but it seems to do just fine.
They can both be used while a charging cable is plugged in. Like you Giyo, it is not a documented feature so I don't know what the light is doing (e.g. does it stop charging, run off the charging cable only, or something else entirely)
@@TroyOnTrails Good to know, I prefer 2700 batteries [ apart from helmet mount lights - too heavy ] Fenix looks great, I generally prefer a soft edge & wide beam, but the Wuben is a great price and would probably be a better road light.
Thanks for this review. I like what you had to say about the Fenix. I was tempted to buy one for night mountain biking. But my sticking point is I don't like the fact that there's no power in between 1600 and 600. That's a large gap. So I'm really giving the cygo lite ranger endurance a hard look right now and the cateye 1100 ampp. I really want 800+ lumens with a reliable 2.5+ hours.
Well nicely done and thanks for putting the effort into this video.
For mountain biking, I really like having two lights. One on my bars and one on my helmet. Using the Fenix in get two lights at 600 which seems perfect.
@@TroyOnTrails Thanks for the response! So my primary focus is single track MTB night riding. I already ride with about 600 lumens on my head and 600 on the bars. I was looking for a second light to add to the bars for more light and redundancy. I need more light because I've started riding with faster trail riders. My night rides are usually about 2-2.5 hours and I don't want to worry about battery. If you actually got 3.5 hours on Turbo then that would be more than enough. What about mount quality, do you think it will take the bouncing on trails without issue?
Thanks my friend.
I have been using the Fenix BC26R for about 2 years now and it has always done its job. I can easily switch between the different light intensities. It is very robust. Charging the battery is very fast. The battery life is good. I have another light on my other bike, but I am going to replace it with a Fenix BC26R.
Yup. There's a reason it's the king.
I clicked and was going to immediately complain that you probably didn't hear about the Fenix BC26R like most people here in the UK. This is a pleasant surprise :D Got 2 of them for myself and the missus, got spare batteries and a charger, never had the disconnect issue you had (yet). Great to know about the differences between the Fenix and Wuben. I'm planning on doing more audax riding next year so the Wuben might actually come in handy, thanks!
I hope you never see the disconnect problem. I know several people who faced this after I told them to buy a Fenix. But the newer lights haven't faced this issue.
Added to my Christmas wish list 👀
Nice! Christmas lights!
My wishlist :
Takes 18650 batteries. I have a powerbank that uses 18650 batteries, so I like idea of swapping around batteries if needed. It makes them multipurpose.
Can be mounted right side up or upside down. I have a helmet mount and an under computer mount.
Has the beam cutoff. I don't see the need to throw the beam up so high and I quite often blind oncoming riders / pedestrians.
Connects to my Garmin light network, like the Varia does. Being able to change light modes without having to feel around for the buttons makes life easier.
So far I haven't found a light that ticks all those boxes, but I'll keep looking.
The Fenix BC21R (the BC26R's smaller sibling) takes 18650 cells and this is a little smaller. I think it checks every box but your Garmin light network.
The last box is the most difficult to check. I don’t think smart control support on front lights are very widespread (because it’s in front of you anyway).
I don’t know the brand, but I saw someone using a battery bank which holds the bigger 21700 batteries, so I know that exists - might help shorten your list!
Great review! I have a suggestion you can check out is the Enfitnix navi800:
- 800 lumens
- replaceable 18650 (con is proprietary coz their 18650 battery has a chip on it, dunno why and I have tested different 18650 brands it wont turn on).
-It has a cut-off light and has low mid high and flash.
- auto and on with memory mode.
- it can be flipped upside-down if you have a bike computer mount with a gopro adapter.
You lost me on proprietary battery. It's really frustrating when they get so close then do something like put a chip in the battery.
@TroyOnTrails yeah.. Its weird and i bought the light(assuming) it would be compatible with a regular 18650(as I have 20 batteries).
I dunno why it needs a chip but i use majority in flash and last a long time "ESTIMATED" moving time of 30-40 hours-ish before I get a low battery sign.
I have two BC26R, 1 for the handlebars and 1 for my helmet. They are great.
That's my preferred setup too. Though if it's gravel, I think the Wuben will be on my bars now.
also there are some lights that have an internal battery that you can remove and you can charge them with a cable as well
Proprietary batteries annoy me. The Bookman Volume is a pretty awesome light. But it requires a special battery and a tool to replace it.
Obviously, you haven't seen Lumintop B01. That's the bikpackers ultimate headlight in my country. Not only it has removable 18650/21700 battery but also it can be plug via USB-C to regular powerbank.
In my area it’s Enfitnix Navi 800. Basically the same thing, removable 18650 and USB-C simultaneous charging. There are quite many choices out there these days.
I'm familiar with Lumentop. They were the first alternative with a replaceable battery a few years ago. I haven't tried it but honestly, the mount looks questionable and the battery life is not great either. Can it run off USB without a battery in it? What is your country?
@@TroyOnTrails it can run on powerbank solely. I'm from Poland.
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Thank you.
Can either of these run off a battery bank ? I have a Giyo GL-M900T. it's a built in 18650 with 1/4 turn mount, but the ace up it's sleeve [for a £16 light] is that it will charge and run off the usb so you can power it from an external powerbank. It's not claimed nor mentioned in the manual, but it seems to do just fine.
They can both be used while a charging cable is plugged in. Like you Giyo, it is not a documented feature so I don't know what the light is doing (e.g. does it stop charging, run off the charging cable only, or something else entirely)
@@TroyOnTrails Good to know, I prefer 2700 batteries [ apart from helmet mount lights - too heavy ] Fenix looks great, I generally prefer a soft edge & wide beam, but the Wuben is a great price and would probably be a better road light.
The amazon link is for a light with a built in battery, not the removable one.
Trust me. It's removable. It's just a very poorly written description. They don't make an option with a built-in battery.
Look into the king Kong 7 series
Replaceable battery
I like the optics on the Knog. But looks like only an 18650 battery option. But I do like their stuff in general.
Outbound ftw.
Good lights but non replaceable batteries is the deal breaker. If I was doing shorter rides, Outbound would be a contender.
@ Pass through charging plus a small lipstick battery works for 15 hr
I really want to like Outbound because of their (marketed) beam quality, but the lumen output vs duration just isn’t comparable to the BC26R
I just use a headlamp, mostly for visibility. I live in a little western capitalist drug addicted city. Last week light was stolen.
That's a sad reality these days. At least these lights are easy to remove and take with you.