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КОМЕНТАРІ • 438

  • @peterjansen3846
    @peterjansen3846 2 роки тому +99

    Ian Chappell, rightly or wrongly, always spoke his mind. He never left you wondering where he stands and what he believes.

    • @aryavart296
      @aryavart296 2 роки тому +1

      So opening batsman with Avg of 45 and 23 test centuries isn't a legend?

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +4

      He never bags his friends...and has a deep hatred for some of the greats of Aussie cricket...

    • @MrSeanMDolan
      @MrSeanMDolan Рік тому +3

      @@aryavart296 29 Australian’s have a higher batting average than him at a test level, now imagine adding every other country.

    • @Aman-nk5uq
      @Aman-nk5uq Рік тому +1

      @@MrSeanMDolan and how many tests did these 29 Australians play? Just curious

    • @2004lesk01
      @2004lesk01 Рік тому

      yes very true but most of the time was never right .

  • @goat2503
    @goat2503 2 роки тому +92

    Justin Langer, from 105 tests scored 23 - 100s, 30 - 50s, highest score of 250, scoring nearly 8000 runs from his 105 tests, that’s pretty consistent and he certainly had some legendary knocks and often hung around as our top order dropped like flies on many occasions. Bit unnecessary to say he’s not a legend, whether it’s your opinion or not.

    • @stevenguegens7047
      @stevenguegens7047 2 роки тому +8

      Even though I'm NOT a fan of Justin Langer but in YOU stating his aggregate throughout his tenure in MY opinion I reckon that He was better than Matthew Haydon. Haydons highest score was against a mediocre Zimbabwe and YES Haydon did have a brilliant series over in INDIA when He came back to the test team after about a 5 yr absent and LANGAR hung around alot more than Haydon when the batting collapsed around him. ..... just MY opinion though

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +15

      The point is WHY does Chappell have to defame Langer...bitter old man

    • @theread59
      @theread59 Рік тому +6

      @@1362pc he didn't defame him. He said he didn't think he was a legend and Damien Martyn was twice as good. I'll agree with that. Damien Martyn was brilliant.

    • @BanksyOz
      @BanksyOz Рік тому +9

      @@theread59 That is actually hilarious. Martyn was a fringe player and was in and out of the side. Was in no way as valuable as Langer. The amount of games, averages basically every stat you can think of Langer has it all over Martyn. Im a big fan of Martyn and wasnt the biggest fan of Langer during his time as opening batsman but that was more of a personality thing. I cant deny that Langer was a more consistent and much better batsman. Clearly opening the batting in test cricket is a much tougher challenge than a middle order batsman. Martyn was brought up the order on some occassions but would mainly bat at 6 before Gilly.

    • @Aman-nk5uq
      @Aman-nk5uq Рік тому +3

      Hayden shone in 2000s era. Easiest test batting decade ever.

  • @jaikumarjadhav6575
    @jaikumarjadhav6575 Рік тому +19

    While not as imposing as others, Justin Langer gave some very important starts in tough conditions. He was a fighter is all i can remember. He had that typical fierce Australian hunger and passion in him.

  • @rajanrkv
    @rajanrkv 2 роки тому +54

    He was a common man's opener. Gritty and hard working where he knew his limitations. If you see Langer than one like me can think If u work hard you can be a opener as well. Not everyone is a Hayden, Sehwag, etc.

    • @diddillibahdumpsterdiddill9596
      @diddillibahdumpsterdiddill9596 2 роки тому +1

      I get what you are saying but I can tell you honestly ( I was in the same high school first eleven ) Matt Hayden was not a prodigy or someone you said was destined to play first class let alone test cricket. He worked so hard !! Extra training with his older brother Gary after our net sessions had finished. To me he is deserved his success because he earned it ….super tough and disciplined. Chapelle said it right, Langer is not a legend and to me he appears to coach with the passion he played with.

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 2 роки тому +1

      Matt Hayden was not gifted imo and Sehwag had issues with footwork

    • @MrSeanMDolan
      @MrSeanMDolan Рік тому +2

      You’re right, not every batter is of legendary status. He is under the great category but certainly not legendary.

    • @menasouvlaki3595
      @menasouvlaki3595 Рік тому +1

      Every Hayden needs a Langer mate.

  • @roybennett9284
    @roybennett9284 2 роки тому +45

    When chaps goes it's going to be an end of a fantastic era.. always gives great and insightful commentary

  • @brendandennis5868
    @brendandennis5868 2 роки тому +15

    I am also hoping for some good news about Rod Marsh. Like many I idolised him and Lillee as a kid and remember seeing him in person at the Adelaide Oval spanking Lance Cairns for 20-odd off the last over of an ODI. The crowd went berserk and the ball disappeared into the cars parked on the other side of the Victor Richardson gate! Great memories, great man.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 2 роки тому +1

      RIP to 2 legends of Australian cricket, Rod Marsh and Shane Warne.

  • @Giveme1goodreason
    @Giveme1goodreason 2 роки тому +22

    He’s literally 1/2 of the most successful opening partnership ever (there’s one partnership with like 20 more runs but it had 8 more games) langer scored 7700 runs at 45 average. Ian Chappell scored 5500 runs at 42.
    Between the 2 langer is the legend and chapell was just a good cricketer.

    • @united016
      @united016 2 роки тому

      Just because Ian Chappell is not a legend doesn’t mean that Langer is. His point still stands

    • @Giveme1goodreason
      @Giveme1goodreason 2 роки тому

      @@united016 well you feel free to tell me what makes a legend. Because if a career like Langers doesn’t do it, then I don’t know where the cut off point is.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому

      @@Giveme1goodreason
      Well there is a cut off point. Hard to define. But in 30 years Langer will be obscure. So therefore not a legend.

    • @liam3104
      @liam3104 2 роки тому

      having a 45 average is nothing special in Australian cricket. we have 3 guys in the test side right now with an average over 45. in my opinion averaging above 50 for an Australian is what makes them a legend.

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому +2

      @@liam3104 mark waugh averaged 42, ian chappell rates him higher than just about anyone

  • @michaelparadisis4076
    @michaelparadisis4076 2 роки тому +7

    Absolutely love Ian Chappell- for me he’s the most knowledgeable on the game. He’s 100% correct about Langer.

    • @richardbehan8118
      @richardbehan8118 Рік тому +1

      He's an idiot and is completely wrong about Langer. Langers stats prove that

    • @dumbtydumptydonuttrumpisal8563
      @dumbtydumptydonuttrumpisal8563 9 годин тому

      How many test matches have you played? Last time I checked Langer had played 105.....

  • @shaktikumarkurup3621
    @shaktikumarkurup3621 2 роки тому +9

    Always insightful to listen to Chappelli. Always speak his mind, never on the fence.

  • @stevec8555
    @stevec8555 2 роки тому +40

    Whenever Chappell espouses his wisdom, it is easy to see why he was our greatest ever test captain!

    • @nitlover8319
      @nitlover8319 2 роки тому +6

      Border Taylor Waugh Ponting ?

    • @eulogist8120
      @eulogist8120 2 роки тому +4

      He was wrong twice, pace did nothing….and langer averaged 47 with 23 100s….how is he not a legend?

    • @RP-kr2mg
      @RP-kr2mg 2 роки тому +1

      That would be between Waugh, Ponting and maybe Border. Bradman and Clarke were no less according to stats.

    • @harishg1507
      @harishg1507 2 роки тому +5

      Border and Taylor were the best captains . Ponting took over a team that was a jaggernaut crushing every opposition home and away except for India in India .

    • @samtraynor3997
      @samtraynor3997 2 роки тому +3

      @@harishg1507 Waugh was the best captain not even close

  • @PeteJohnsMusic
    @PeteJohnsMusic 2 роки тому +26

    I hope Ian reflects on recent events and decides to be a little more compassionate towards people.

    • @mragunathan1627
      @mragunathan1627 2 роки тому

      Hes just being brutally truthful. Too much compassion can lead to the kind of wormy behaviour that has defined the captaincies of Steve Smith, Paine and Cummins.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +1

      Chappell has his favourites and they can do no wrong

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +4

      He has been a cricket commentator for 30+ years...never had to be accountable for anything...just bash other players

  • @Sub0x-x40
    @Sub0x-x40 2 роки тому +12

    chappelli goin into bat for the current crop is a delight to watch

    • @joedont9307
      @joedont9307 2 роки тому +2

      @@patorr69 nah he's right, Langer was a decent opener but no legend at all

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому

      @@joedont9307 Langer was way better than Ian Chappell. also good to watch

  • @tutulchakraborti9289
    @tutulchakraborti9289 2 роки тому +18

    Love hearing Ian.. Makes a lot of sense and the conduct is so great to see as well.

  • @manojsundar5719
    @manojsundar5719 2 роки тому +25

    I am crying in admiration listening to what Ian chappel says. He is gold.

  • @shahidkorotanaadv8146
    @shahidkorotanaadv8146 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Ian for generous remarks abt our beloved country . respect

  • @siddarthmohta8504
    @siddarthmohta8504 2 роки тому +18

    Ian as always absolutely brilliant.

    • @beng4186
      @beng4186 2 роки тому +4

      He's always been the poor man's Richie. Should never have been in the Australian team; should never have been given a commentary position.

  • @frankford1115
    @frankford1115 2 роки тому +8

    Very good stuff! Chappell always great value.

  • @Jack-qv5ru
    @Jack-qv5ru Рік тому +4

    Chapell has an Ian Botham calendar on his fridge

    • @andrewmaroc113
      @andrewmaroc113 9 місяців тому +1

      That's as close as Chappell would go to Beefy

  • @FredMcCubbin
    @FredMcCubbin 11 місяців тому +1

    “I played in an era where you had to work” so true but savage as well.

  • @MICOhive
    @MICOhive 2 роки тому +19

    Chappelli was a genius player, very underrated in my opinion, he was one of the highest run getters in world series cricket(tougher than test cricket)

    • @andrewmaroc113
      @andrewmaroc113 9 місяців тому

      WSC - pretend cricket - Chappell was the best FIGJAM i have ever heard

  • @Bully1973
    @Bully1973 2 роки тому +11

    Langer was a legend, 105 test matches averaging 45. The second half of his career cemented his legacy. He averaged 41 at 3 and was about to be dropped until he was given an opportunity to open where he averaged 48. 23 hundreds, not bad.

    • @Bully1973
      @Bully1973 2 роки тому

      @@soulsphere9242 Legendary status is in the eyes of the beholder I suppose. BTW Boony was definitely a legend!!!

    • @eulogist8120
      @eulogist8120 2 роки тому +3

      One of the best opening records there is, Chappeli obviously has a personal vendetta against that group

    • @Bully1973
      @Bully1973 2 роки тому

      He might not have been a legend in the eyes of Chappelli but he had a superior record compared to him.

    • @Bully1973
      @Bully1973 2 роки тому

      @@eulogist8120 He's getting a bit grumpy in his old age.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +1

      WAYYY better than Chappell's stats

  • @Sarah_0112
    @Sarah_0112 2 роки тому +2

    Chappels predictions were right on the money! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому

      He is not right very often actually

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult Рік тому +2

    There was a long interview with Langer at lunch whilst listening to TMS here in England, and to be honest he sounded like David Brent at times.... he was an excellent batsman but he did not sound like the kind of coach who would inspire people.

    • @kiz5562
      @kiz5562 Рік тому +1

      he's good at picking up the pieces and getting the teams back on track, like he did with WA/Perth team and the Aus team after sandpapergate. But he's far too highly strung and micromanaging. Players got sick of him during the covid bubbles. Also kept Ussie out of the team for 2.5yr after Ussie told him to his face " we're stepping on eggshells around you".

  • @robvenus1983
    @robvenus1983 Рік тому

    He was a great player. As an Englishman getting a wicket down before 100 was up was a bonus with langer and Hayden opening

  • @guitarmuscle6968
    @guitarmuscle6968 Рік тому +4

    Ian Chappell has always been a Bitter, Angry, Jealous Man and the older he gets the more Bitter, Angry and Jealous he gets.

    • @andrewmaroc113
      @andrewmaroc113 Рік тому

      best summation of him i have seen

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 Рік тому

      I've never noticed that in his personality. He was respected as a captain. A serious man. A considered man. Yes. But I'm sure you know

  • @thiruvetti
    @thiruvetti 2 роки тому +4

    As a neutral, all I can say is Langer may not be legend in comparison to Sachin, Lara, Ponting. But he was a modern test great on his own. There were several innings where he grinded it out and ensured Aussies had a great opening partnership.
    Its easy to get lost in the greatness of McGrath/Shane's bowling. But one of the major reasons Aussies dominated then was because of the opening partnership that made sure there was scoreboard pressure on the opposition. Its most important factor in tests.

    • @gogothelabradorretriever6622
      @gogothelabradorretriever6622 2 роки тому +4

      Any player who played 100 test must have performed thats why they were a part of the team but not everybody can fit in the category of legends, if you call warne mcgrath sachin lara ponting wasim as legends, do you really want to put lenger with them? Absolutely not and thats what ian said here

    • @thiruvetti
      @thiruvetti 2 роки тому

      @@gogothelabradorretriever6622 Its not about what he said. Its about how Chappell said in a dismissive way. You are not either a 0 or a legend. He is one of greatest test openers and has all the credentials.

    • @aryavart296
      @aryavart296 2 роки тому

      @@thiruvetti Can somebody define legen, Is it a specific number?

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому +1

      Anyone that averages 45 as an opener and dominates the Shield level for many years is a legend. Fact.

    • @11hitmanDagenius
      @11hitmanDagenius Рік тому

      Depends on your definition of legend. Langer is not an all time legendary player. That's what he Ian chappel is trying to say

  • @agr7879
    @agr7879 2 роки тому +2

    When Chappell speaks, I listen

  • @TomMarvan
    @TomMarvan 2 роки тому +2

    Great show. Can’t wait for the first test to start.

  • @Henry-fd3et
    @Henry-fd3et 2 роки тому +6

    Chappelli doesn't miss. Ever.

  • @Green-6937
    @Green-6937 Рік тому

    I don't know who is better, certainly Damien Martin is treat to the eyes! What an elegant stroke maker he was..

  • @bradthurkle7217
    @bradthurkle7217 2 роки тому +17

    I think Langer was a legend. Played against a lot of talented fast bowlers back in the day. He’s got better stats than Ian Chappell.

    • @user-yi5mt2df5q
      @user-yi5mt2df5q 2 роки тому +5

      I agree. Everyone in that team was a legend. However, Hayden was a much better player than Langer.

    • @Giveme1goodreason
      @Giveme1goodreason 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-yi5mt2df5q not much better just different. People really under appreciate how good langer was he has 2000 more runs than chapell.

    • @user-yi5mt2df5q
      @user-yi5mt2df5q 2 роки тому +1

      @@Giveme1goodreason Matthew Hayden was a player who could win a match just by himself. He was an X-factor, Langer was not. He was also a much better white ball player, but that is obvious anyway.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому +2

      Well it's opinion isn't it. Plenty of players as good as Langer. So is he a legend ? Really lucky to be picked ahead of slater. He could of ended up with no career. Slater screwed up big time off the field in England and lost his spot

    • @bradthurkle7217
      @bradthurkle7217 2 роки тому

      It’s definitely opinion true that.

  • @aggressive9999
    @aggressive9999 2 роки тому +3

    Ian Chappal is Sunil Gavaskar Of Australian Cricket

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому

      They are both bitter old men who are jealous of successful younger players

    • @andrewmaroc113
      @andrewmaroc113 9 місяців тому

      what a unfair down grading of the great Sunil Gavaskar - vastly superior in all aspects to Ian Chappell

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 3 місяці тому +1

    Ian Chappell the best

  • @David-e2n6t
    @David-e2n6t 22 дні тому +1

    Since when do the players decide on who the coach is

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy 2 роки тому +13

    "I don't know what the score'll be because I think there'll be a draw or two along the way."
    Ian Chappell guest-starring as the Nostradamus of Cricket.

  • @Sarah_0112
    @Sarah_0112 2 роки тому +1

    For once I agree wholeheartedly with Chappelli. 💯💯💯

  • @kinshuksinghania4289
    @kinshuksinghania4289 2 роки тому +2

    Jesus!! That’s brutal from Chappell, but an honest assessment and an honest opinion!!

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому

      and usually he is wrong

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 2 роки тому +2

    I would really like to see Pucovski get into the Australian test team again. What’s happening with him is concerning though. The concussion problem is worrying and quite bizarre. It’s certainly something I haven’t seen before.

    • @orbitallight1435
      @orbitallight1435 2 роки тому

      Bowlers have found the weakness of Pucovski. It will be hard for him to break through.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 2 роки тому

      I have to agree, definitely.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      I don't know if Pucovski will return. I saw him trying to hook guys off the front foot when he had concussion issues. And he got hit. What is he thinking.

    • @dennispicone6801
      @dennispicone6801 Рік тому

      Personally, I think that they should override that and even consider him for the home season coming up. The West Indies and Pakistan at home, would be an ideal opportunity to bring him back at the right time.😊

  • @krikeyitstimeforcricket967
    @krikeyitstimeforcricket967 2 роки тому

    What a beautiful series this has been!! Great to watch.

  • @dweller6065
    @dweller6065 2 роки тому +8

    Chappell was a boyhood hero of mine. I always listen carefully to Ian Chappell's opinion given his long experience and the fact that he was a very good captain in his day. He is thoughtful and his commentary is noted for its candour. Much of his commentary is in response to hyperbole in media comment. It is a challenge in his profession to respond to the hyperbole in a way that grounds it, without being unnecessarily disrespectful to players. This is a skill Chappell struggles with. It is really hard these days to get a positive opinion from Chappell about any player, an administration or the development of the game. Unfortunately Chappell has become bitter with age. His comments about Justin Langer were just plain rude. Langer was a better player than Martin and indeed Ian Chappell, not because Langer had a better range of strokes (he didn't); but because he valued his wicket more.
    Langer played in an age when test nations were more competitive than in Chappells era. Esp India and Pakistan.
    Langer played 105 test matches, averaged 45.3 (50.2 vs England). South Africa was good in both eras - Langer averaged 42.7 in 11 matches against the likes of Donald and Pollack; Chappell failed averaging just 16.9 across 9 matches.
    Chappell played 75 tests, had a lower average of 42.4 (and 41.1 vs England). Chappell did well 57.2 avg vs West Indies, helped by the fact that he retired in 1980 missing most of the two decade period of great WI teams.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +1

      HE likes to kick former players when they are down...JL was a far better batsman

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому +1

      @@1362pc JL is a legend. Chappell is jealous of just about any of Steve Waugh's pals.

  • @Deano_Longley
    @Deano_Longley 10 місяців тому +1

    Whether you agree or think chappells talking crap,you have to listen & respect his opinion because of his worldwide standing in the game=England fan

  • @gwinyaizhandire7535
    @gwinyaizhandire7535 2 роки тому +14

    Absolute bollocks!! if you didnt like the bloke just say so Chappelli! JL scored more test runs than you, played more games than you, and had a better average than yours. Hes Australia's 8th highest test run scorer of all time! If hes not a legend, then neither are you sir!

    • @frankford1115
      @frankford1115 2 роки тому +3

      Chappell is a legendary captain perhaps; player, no. Just good. Langer is not an Aussie legend. Too many players averaging 50+. But a top, top player whom Chappell was disrespectful.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому

      Nonsense. You are just reading stat's. Chapells opinion has nothing to do with liking or not liking. You havnt a clue.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому

      @@frankford1115
      There was no disrespect whatsoever. Plainly stated and spot on

    • @critical_analysis
      @critical_analysis 2 роки тому

      Ian Chappell is a highly opiniated person, I don't take him seriorusly at all because he has personal likes and dislikes. Justin Langer played more innings under crisis than Ian Chappell. Ian Chappell was a very good captain but not a great player. He was exposed in South Africa when SA had very good bowlers, his average is pathetic when SA was at its pomp.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      Chappelli was a star. But you can't underestimate anyone averaging 45 as an opener. Langer.

  • @roonoronno656
    @roonoronno656 2 роки тому +4

    Seems harsh on Langer to me, his methods brought major improvements, seems exactly what England need... bring him in for me... England players will need to suck it up...

  • @TGILCLOVERSG
    @TGILCLOVERSG 2 роки тому +3

    Ian Chappell on Langer 5:10

  • @BDub2024
    @BDub2024 Рік тому +1

    Of course Langer is a legend. But the thing is that there can be all sorts of legends for all sorts of things. Not best batsman of all time. So not a Bradman or Ponting legend. But averaging 45 at test level and 50 at first class as an opener! That is absolutely world class and legendary. As a lover of the baggy green and as someone that drives standards within the changeroom - absolutely legendary. So a stupid comment by Chappelli. Was Langer important as coach after the debacle of sandpapergate and the Lehmann years. His lifting of standards, stopping the sledging and bat sportsman like behaviour was absolutely legendary. He took control of the tean on and of the field. Obviously, over time the players wanted him to follow a more traditional coaching role and the captains wanted to seize back control of the team. Ok. But lets not underestimate the legendary work he did in changing the culture of the team.

  • @shravanaragula4877
    @shravanaragula4877 2 роки тому

    Whatever it is people may not like it but fact is chappeli always speaks his mind and more often then not his analysis is on point

  • @billybobd
    @billybobd Рік тому +1

    Langer wouldn't let Australia bowl and bat like they have in England. Australia would be much more aggressive in both areas. Has the current coach had input into how they play. Langer was a good bat and important to the team. I think the team needs a hard task master not someone who is their friend.

  • @rajatagarwal6108
    @rajatagarwal6108 18 днів тому

    Lengend is someone who would feature in all time xi of that era. In langers era those were sehwag and hayden. But it doesnt make langer any lesser.

  • @ufargarnidgit1927
    @ufargarnidgit1927 Рік тому +3

    "Damien Martin was (in Ian's opinion), twice as good a player as Justin Langer.
    IMO, Greg Chappell was twice as good a player as Ian Chappell.
    Thankfully for Ian, Trevor made him look good.

  • @mangeshinde
    @mangeshinde 20 днів тому

    Recently, this same Chappell talked about Virat Kohli being better than Sachin in tests, now we can safely conclude he’s past his best. He can no longer judge things the way he used to do till few years back. Langer is an absolute legend of a game.

  • @shankariyer8378
    @shankariyer8378 Рік тому +2

    Why belittle people? Is it a Chappelian fsmily trait?

  • @wasiqmk
    @wasiqmk Рік тому +1

    Chappell praising damien martyn ❤

  • @raymondwright4358
    @raymondwright4358 2 роки тому +9

    Chappeli called Green a useful medium pacer... Green is 6'6 and bowls at 140kms, is that how they defined medium pacers back in the 70s?

    • @killbenjiTV
      @killbenjiTV 2 роки тому +7

      Jeff Thompson was bowling 170km/hr so yeah 140km/hr is medium relative.

    • @raymondwright4358
      @raymondwright4358 2 роки тому +2

      @@killbenjiTV fair call. 140km feels a little pedestrian now

    • @mragunathan1627
      @mragunathan1627 2 роки тому +1

      @@killbenjiTV those are called rose tinted memories. I highly doubt Thommo was bowling 170 kph. GIven it was an era without helmets and far less protective kit, batsmen were much more respecting of a geniune pace bowler. They would have indeed seemed "faster" back then given the risk of injury was just more in that era. Thommo was one of the fastest of all time, right up there with Lee and Akhtar. 170 kph? cmon lol

    • @derekgleeson1353
      @derekgleeson1353 2 роки тому +1

      Firstly, his height is irrelevant.
      Secondly, he could be described as fast-medium.
      Thirdly, the bowlers in the 70's arguably bowled faster than they do today.
      Just calm down, keep your powder dry until you have a proper point to make.

    • @raymondwright4358
      @raymondwright4358 2 роки тому +1

      Wasn't making a point, Derek. It was a tongue in cheek joke. Lighten up pal.

  • @ahall3823
    @ahall3823 2 роки тому +20

    The more I hear Chappell, the less I want to hear him.

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123 2 роки тому +22

    Ian chappell is like roy keane of cricket analysis . Entertaining to listen but bit too much cynicism and negativity

  • @Ducatirati
    @Ducatirati 17 днів тому

    Amazing the same say Warne was taken , and Ian just mentioned him , insane . Ric

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123 2 роки тому +5

    Mark waugh and langer were good players who got so many chances that they made 7k runs langer .if only martyn and katich had gotten the same chances. Both waugh and langer are two of the top 10-15 australia highest run getters in history.

    • @bobdown5520
      @bobdown5520 2 роки тому +3

      Mark Waugh was never dropped in his career. As for Langer he reinvented himself and became one of the best openers ever had

    • @nagadolabhuvan5189
      @nagadolabhuvan5189 2 роки тому +4

      Mark Waugh as a fielder himself contributed 1000 runs imo. Best slip of all time🔥

    • @DD-xw6uw
      @DD-xw6uw 2 роки тому +2

      @@nagadolabhuvan5189 Mark Waugh couldn’t be dropped because he was a true all rounder. Incredible fielder, good sometimes great batsmen and a really effective part time bowler.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому +1

      Langer legend. Martyn underrated and could have batted anywhere. Katich upset Clarke and got dumped. Katich Langer Martyn three great west australians.

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому

      @@DD-xw6uw You do understand that Mark Waugh was eventually dropped because of poor form in 2001/2?

  • @dhaanushl6465
    @dhaanushl6465 2 роки тому +7

    5:45 Justin Langer not a Legend? That's too harsh to compare Langer and Martyn because Langer didn't play ODIs like Martyn.

    • @grantcarncross5380
      @grantcarncross5380 2 роки тому

      Yes because Langer wasn't good enough to play alot of ODI cricket

    • @Rousseau123
      @Rousseau123 Рік тому

      Langer was a stroke less genius with a good defence. He couldn't play flamboyant strokes whenever he wanted. But Martyn could.

  • @siredith8846
    @siredith8846 10 місяців тому +1

    Does Ian Chappell have anything nice to say about anybody?

  • @michaeldefries3583
    @michaeldefries3583 Рік тому +1

    Ian Chappell has made a post playing career out of being a nasty, bitter, agenda driven, "back in my day" man. He's certainly entitled to his opinion, it's just that his opinion isn't, and hasn't been for a long time, anything worth paying attention to.

  • @dluap569161
    @dluap569161 2 роки тому +6

    Ian Chappell is always critical of Usman Khawaja ("He's only good against mediocre bowling"; "I'm not convinced. He shouldn't be opening" etc.). And Khawaja keeps proving him wrong.

    • @phoarey
      @phoarey 2 роки тому

      Just an r sole Chappell

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      to be fair to chappelli, there is no other decent opener to take his spot. Kuwaja is in middle late 30s now so wont last for ever.

    • @joeljoseph2028
      @joeljoseph2028 Рік тому

      ​@@BDub2024 he just scored a hundred in England

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      @@joeljoseph2028 Absolutely. I was watching it. But you've now got Warner and Kuwaja who will both go at the same time. Warner wanted to last for the Ashes series. Now he's saying the last test at the SCG in 8 months time... I think he'll then say he wants to go on some other tour etc... Harris or Bancroft should be there. Renshaw self destructed a bit but had a reasonable summer too.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      @@joeljoseph2028 But Kuwaja is good. Always was a very good player but had real weaknesses against the spinning delivery and moving ball. No doubt he's worked very hard and getting reward for effort.

  • @nickking2491
    @nickking2491 4 місяці тому +1

    Too much player power, in my opinion the captain should have no say on who is the head coach,

  • @rgfitness6425
    @rgfitness6425 14 днів тому +1

    Lol Australian ex players are now competing with Pak ex players 😂😂😂 by involving in these things

  • @jakedemmery6455
    @jakedemmery6455 2 роки тому +9

    Could be wrong but think JL made more test runs than Ian, like over 1500 more runs

    • @Anup-k8j
      @Anup-k8j 2 роки тому +4

      Who played more matches, different eras, different pitches and he fkng captained the side

    • @aryavart296
      @aryavart296 2 роки тому

      @@Anup-k8j So opening batsman with Avg of 45 and 23 test centuries isn't a legend?

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому

      @@Anup-k8j Langer made more runs and a higher average than Chappell, won more matches too. way more. Not to mention Chappell drew nearly half of the tests he captained. He would rubbish his own records if he was playing today.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 Рік тому

      ​@@aryavart296correct

  • @shrivindjiyadav2863
    @shrivindjiyadav2863 2 роки тому +1

    Ian Chappell don't know how to respect the Justin Langer who is finest Australian coach I have ever seen

  • @WaqasAhmadWarraich-mf9ch
    @WaqasAhmadWarraich-mf9ch 7 місяців тому

    Chappell is damn right❤

  • @yourstruly1234
    @yourstruly1234 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with Chappel..Langer was aa very good player for sure..but not a legend..he cannot be compared witha Ponting, Lara or Tendulkar..

  • @thefight_er
    @thefight_er 2 роки тому +2

    I miss chappels commentary

  • @vincentho3792
    @vincentho3792 Рік тому +1

    Come on Ian Chappell. It's fair to say Langer is not in the class of Warne and McGrath (who is really?), I am also big Damien Martyn fan and rates him over Langer. But to say he was twice the player that Langer was is a bit much. It strayed from opinion to attack as that's simply not true.

  • @ButcherBoxing
    @ButcherBoxing 10 місяців тому

    Langer knew what he was doing when he retired. Chappelli is right. Make no mistake, JL has always wanted to be held in the highest esteem as a champion. Well known fact in WA cricket circles

  • @lakshaybahl1248
    @lakshaybahl1248 2 роки тому +3

    As a opener it's not easy to maintain 45+average till today so Langer is hard foughted and mentally prepared by Steve Waugh main credit goes to Steve Waugh

    • @aryavart296
      @aryavart296 2 роки тому +1

      So opening batsman with Avg of 45 and 23 test centuries isn't a legend?

    • @lakshaybahl1248
      @lakshaybahl1248 2 роки тому +1

      @@aryavart296 i think he is a legend he puts so much value to the any 11

  • @andrewharris8439
    @andrewharris8439 2 роки тому +1

    Ian Chappell always thought he better than everyone else.

  • @steviev1422
    @steviev1422 2 роки тому +6

    Ian Chappell you have been the most part critical, hyoocrital, negative,.. In your own mind only your time ever existed, disliked with a passion commentator ever.
    Steve, Brisbane.

  • @Mustardonmyjeans
    @Mustardonmyjeans 2 роки тому +15

    He used to have a point of view - and a valuable one at that - but now he's just a grumpy, old curmudgeon spouting negativity at each juncture. Shame, really

    • @jaisabai4155
      @jaisabai4155 2 роки тому

      Yes, he is a cynical and boring old fart.

    • @jacquesdelyons3516
      @jacquesdelyons3516 2 роки тому +1

      He is one of the only people with the balls to speak his mind in what is a sheep-like sport media landscape in Australia. Everybody agrees with Ponting, Gilchrist, Hayden because they are legends; they don't bother to consider both sides of the story.

    • @Mustardonmyjeans
      @Mustardonmyjeans 2 роки тому

      @@jacquesdelyons3516 but that's my point. He used to have an INCREDIBLY valuable POV but when he "speaks his mind" these days, it's less insightful and prone to reactive negativity. I miss 1980s Chappelli, one of the most important voices in the game. Also, he's a giant and a brilliant advocate in areas beyond cricket- I'm not having a go.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому

      What in your view was negative ?

  • @petergentoac
    @petergentoac 2 роки тому +2

    "You ring Shane Warne."

  • @michaelfernando6533
    @michaelfernando6533 2 роки тому +3

    Agree With Ian Chappell, Damian Martin was much better than Langer. Hayden is away too head than Langer.

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Рік тому

      Just watch the highlights of the test matches between 1999 and 2007. Langer often outscored Hayden, and was a better player under pressure. Hayden was very boring when he was out of form. I can remember so many innings when he scored 10-15 runs out of 60 balls, hitting and missing, and eventually getting out. But people only remember the good times.

  • @toffee96
    @toffee96 Рік тому +1

    I'm not sure that Ian Chappell's opinion really counts for very much. An angry and bitter man who holds petty grudges which cloud his judgement.

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 2 роки тому

    He didn't mention the second greatest spinner of all time behind Warne, Abdul Qadir.

    • @aniket385
      @aniket385 2 роки тому

      Plenty of spinners are among Warne Level
      Bosenquent the guy who invented googly and
      Claire grimmet before rest show up

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 2 роки тому

      @@aniket385 Grimmett was nowhere near Warne, O'Reilly or Qadir..............Grimmett is in the Tim May level.

    • @aranyaism
      @aranyaism 2 роки тому

      Murli

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 2 роки тому

      @@aranyaism No Abdul Qadir. Warne and Qadir are the best 2 spinners of all time.

  • @steviev1422
    @steviev1422 2 роки тому +4

    And now you want to bag out one of our countries best servants of the game? F me why aren't you better than that and standing up for him?
    Thanks for proving again that you are a true f wit.
    Steve, Brisbane.

  • @macfin4862
    @macfin4862 Рік тому

    Lol, Damien Martyn's 13 career tons, later getting to come in after getting to come in after Langer, Hayden, Prime Ponting or Langers 23 tons against the the new ball with 3 double hundreds.

    • @11hitmanDagenius
      @11hitmanDagenius Рік тому +1

      Martyn did not get the same level of chances a lot of the other players. Honestly you can't really compare without considering other variables. They are different style of players

  • @killbenjiTV
    @killbenjiTV 2 роки тому +7

    Matthew Hayden legend, Justin langer legend

    • @baird55aus
      @baird55aus 2 роки тому

      yes I would add Shane Warne and Don Bradman and draw the line there for Australian legends that I am aware of (there may be more pre-WW2). I don't think Ian or Greg Chappell are legends although they were both bloody good cricketers.

    • @killbenjiTV
      @killbenjiTV 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@baird55aus its a bit stiff calling hayden a legend but not langer because hayden and langer combined were an all time great opening partnership.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому +1

      Amen, Preach it Pastor Ben.

  • @alexlanning712
    @alexlanning712 Рік тому

    He was part of productive partnership

  • @sugs1191
    @sugs1191 2 роки тому +1

    I'd rather watch Damien Martyn bat over Langer. But I think Langer had a better career.

  • @mragunathan1627
    @mragunathan1627 2 роки тому

    Chappelli is being a bit harsh on his estimation of JL as a player. His numbers speak for themselves. Was he an all time great? No. Was he pretty good? Yes. If he was playing today given the sorry state of test cricket he’d easily be the best or top 3 for openers.

  • @darrylmackie9184
    @darrylmackie9184 2 роки тому +1

    Ian Chappell the HAS BEEN who NEVER WAS.

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 Рік тому

      He was a star to be fair. But comment on Langer is unfair. No other cricketer in the world is as good as Warne and McGrath. So why say it, except as an unnecessary put down.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 Рік тому

      Ha ha. Play video games mate

  • @deepakavinash8037
    @deepakavinash8037 2 роки тому +1

    Ian Chappell is the smartest guy in Australia 😅

  • @amjadghazi4580
    @amjadghazi4580 Рік тому +1

    Ian Chappell says Langer wasn't a legend. He generally speaks rubbish and he's done it again.

    • @kiz5562
      @kiz5562 Рік тому

      he's an old fashioned straight shooter, no BS type of guy. Just like Boycott and Holding. I dont agree with everything he says, but i respect his honesty

  • @jamessouthon651
    @jamessouthon651 2 роки тому

    If Greg or Ian chapel says someone is good or greatness than that is the gospel truth

    • @jejona6989
      @jejona6989 2 роки тому

      Great stuff, an underarm for you

  • @punithmuniyappa2806
    @punithmuniyappa2806 2 роки тому +1

    Why was the Host laughing watching the pitch ? Change attitude brother.

  • @rickgeorge3739
    @rickgeorge3739 2 роки тому +2

    ian Chappille wil never be a Leagend... Langer will be. Just look at theire average. Ian next to live Australian Cricket.

  • @123454106
    @123454106 Рік тому +1

    Ian Chappell is a great commentator and is always upfront and honest. Langer was may be a good and useful kind of cricketer but definitely not a legendary figure and was an average coach for sure. His contribution to the T20 WC win or other major wins at the end were minimal and it was only the team that did it.

  • @BM-wf9uf
    @BM-wf9uf Рік тому +1

    Chappell likes the sound of his own voice I think.

  • @mickstunes6383
    @mickstunes6383 2 роки тому +6

    For all his positives, every now & then he just doesn't like someone who was a better player than him, scored more runs than him & was in a more successful side than him. Put the lemons down Chappelli & stop looking for reasons to be sour.

  • @1362pc
    @1362pc Рік тому +1

    Langer was a much better player than Chappell...Chappell likes to re-write history

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 Рік тому

      Here's the thing. I think chappel was a better.player than langer. He was bloody good

  • @jejona6989
    @jejona6989 2 роки тому

    Chappell says a coach is not required because Chappell was the greatest captain of all time. Warne parrots Chappell. However, would Warne have injured his shoulder practising bowling 1000 wrong-uns if a coach was there to contribute. Probably the greatest bowler of all time up to that point, still a great bowler on recovery but not quite the same

  • @sspacegghost
    @sspacegghost 2 роки тому

    Ian Chappell is and always has been NSW faction. They ran cricket for ages. Qld was never let in. Hayden and Langer had a bond where Hayden stuck around for way too long, and Langer was his buddy. Neither were legends, while i agree with that, Ians comments are more about the heirachy of cricket and its NSW bias...thats why tubby got to play on as captain despite getting out for 1s about 200 times in a row.

    • @craigedwards2940
      @craigedwards2940 2 роки тому

      That's an odd assumption given he was South Australian and the captain/selector who dropped Doug Walters from the 1972 test match against England meaning Australia went into the match with no NSW player's in the team.

  • @bobbythomas5357
    @bobbythomas5357 2 роки тому

    Langer no legend. Surprised only Ian speaks the truth in Australia, everyone else is living on mateship seeing through rose tinted glasses.

  • @Jimboken1
    @Jimboken1 2 роки тому +3

    If Chappell had his way, the australian cricket team players would run Cricket Australia. No limits in Chappell's eyes.

    • @chrisbuesnell3428
      @chrisbuesnell3428 2 роки тому +1

      I don't think so. Cricket Australia is the organisational body. The team is separate to that. I don't get your point

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +1

      and that would be a disaster....lets have no coach...just let the players decide what to do

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +2

      Chappell hates coaches..he thinks players can look after the team by themselves...Great teams in sports have great coaches

  • @monk123
    @monk123 2 роки тому +4

    Cam Green is not a medium pacer 😃

  • @robertcoyte3243
    @robertcoyte3243 2 роки тому

    Langer was a legend...he wnt the best in the team but neither was Chappelli