oh my god FINALLY, thank you so much for this video! i've been trying to find the way my old guitar instructor was teaching me the modes but every video i found was different or just didn't make sense to me. THIS. this is how he was teaching me before he moved! thank you so so much, i've been wanting to finish fully learning the modes bc he left before we finished 🙏
David, you are one guitar purist, that I can appreciate. Due to the vast knowledge you demonstrate readily and willingly. As I get to cross your path much to infrequent, I do enjoy your channel and your approach to all aspects of musicality. Many times its beyond immediate comphrehensions, but constant review and research of your deeds on you tube and can grasp it ....I simply say thanks
Luv the way you explain how to play modes... I've learned how to use modes just as you describe... like a "extension" of the pentatonic. And, as you say, it comes very quickly. But, I'm very (very, very) LAZY... when I tried to learn major modes I quickly "discover" a way to learn less positions. Ionian is the major relative of Aeolian, Lydian is the major relative of Dorian, Myxo, is the major relative of Phrygian... as always, Locrian sucks ;). For example, to play a A Lydian, I use the first position of a F# Dorian. You just a have to remember when you phrasing that the root is an A (not a F#), and de "key" notes are the same in the pattern. Don't know if I'm clear (specially with my poor english). Thanks for your vids... It's always a pleasure to learn from you :)
Thank you Wallimann! I watched lesson#6, mode backing track video and this video without stopping and now I can see the light gently ascending from heavens
The last few master classes have been awesome, David! I have known the modes for years, but not how to use them. These are very practical and have helped me grow after being on a plateau for years.
This concept uncovered a lot of doors for my musical journey. I noodle on the pentatonic, and land on these spicy chord tones. I also adjust the third accordingly
This is by far the best way I have seen modes explained, I know that because finally I get it. Top Lesson, Top explanation David. Thank you so much, now I can get out of that boring pentatonic box!!
what he's teaching, is the band launches into a A major song, your safe with the major scale or you'll fall all over yourself until you can HEAR the mode in your head. I've never heard the singer say" all right we're gonna do a song in A Locrian' hope you like it!"
David,, I'm new here,,, I'm learning the modes and extremely interested in taking my playing further. My question at this time would be in regards to when making the backing track, vamp or loops..... If the notes being played over don't include the notes in the mode,, would using the modes still sound good when trying to playing a lead or phasing ?
Makes sense but you couldn’t be Dorian without those because there isn’t enough notes. Consequently, you could just play the modes in harmonic minor or major or minor scales and get the modal sound right? Isn’t that easier to do then trying to decide which notes from the major minor or harmonic minor scales to add in to a pentatonic scale to get the modal sound? And doesn’t that actually explain the reason for the modal sound better?
David, can you clarify what chords you're using for your musical bed? The reason I ask: If we were at an open blues jam, and the band is playing a classic I IV and V chord progression (A, D, E) major chords. We're playing a Minor Pentatonic. Would our choices for modes only be Ionian, Lydian and Mixolydian (major modes)? Or could we solo with Minor Pentatonic and slip into Dorian or Phrygian briefly to add character? Would the Minor mode voices clash with the major chord bed?
You can play all positions on that same progression based on the one chord you move up or down the shapes so if youre doing that A D E you can solo over A Ionian or since its blues also a minor penta, also you can move to B dorian shape, and etc.(Dorian is the second mode starting from the second note of the Ionian, in this case B) David's course is great btw on guitar infusion, also this webpages is a great resource www.guitar-chords.org.uk/
Thanks Lorenzo. My understanding of that method is starting in A Ionian and moving to B Dorian would simply maintain the A tonality. But if you played A Dorian then it would bring the Dorian tonality. Waiting for David to chime in here😀
Yes, I usually keep the bass on A so that the color of the mode stands out a bit more. There are multiple options for A Dorian, but BbMaj7 wouldn't work there because that chord is not extracted from A Dorian. The following are: Am7 Bm7 CMaj7 D7 Em7 F#m7b5 GMaj7 I hope that helps!
Hi, why do you play the A major scale to explain the 2nd and 6th interval of A dorian? The result is the same but theoretically it's a different matter, isn't it?
+Geeveebee Loves Guitars I use the Major scale as a way to find the intervals because that scale only has Major or perfect intervals. I explain it more in the previous masterclass of you want to go further. :)
David Wallimann Ok, I can dig that. I just have a different approach, I divide the modes/chords into three groups: major, minor, dominant. The reference for major is major(Ionian), for minor, natural minor (Aolean) and mixolydian for dominant. Every other mode is derived from one of those. So alt for example is derived from mixo with b9 #9 b5 b6, were 1 3 (theoretically b4 of course) and b7 are 'untouched'. The reason for this is that I can see, hear and play arpeggios pretty much from one off the basic three chords and fill in the gaps to give some color. I also can throw in some triads as substitutions from the same perspective.
Hi, all roads lead to Rome ;). I use that same approuch. David's approach is perfect for the beginner. I would have done this when i started learning this stuff, its simpel to understand. I also look at it as minor/major/dominant/diminished etc. and then add the color tones. On top of that you also know the inversions and so you get more freedom. But still i dig this approach, wich guitarist doesnt know his pentatonic scale or atleast the minor, just let them add the color tones for the dorian, phrygian or aeolian and their good to go.
Hey bro, why haven't you started a Patreon? There are people out there who are making bank with it and they are putting out content that is inferior to yours.
David Wallimann any easy thing to do with the Patreon is that for in a given period of time, say 30 or 45 days. Each person who donates a dollar will be entered into a give away for free lessons or a subject matter package. Something easy like that. You can run multiple setups like and all concurrent with each other or even scale them up. Like a 1$ raffle or a 5$ or 10$ raffle for bigger lesson packages.
because it's a good transition into other modes. on it's own it sounds pretty avant garde but if you heard in the A dorian example he went from a dorian to a f# half diminished (close enough) which fits into the locrian mode; i personally think it sounds great transitioning to c lydian
oh my god FINALLY, thank you so much for this video! i've been trying to find the way my old guitar instructor was teaching me the modes but every video i found was different or just didn't make sense to me. THIS. this is how he was teaching me before he moved! thank you so so much, i've been wanting to finish fully learning the modes bc he left before we finished 🙏
David, you explain everything so well. I gave up on this years ago, but now it's a lot clearer.
David, you are one guitar purist, that I can appreciate. Due to the vast knowledge you demonstrate readily and willingly. As I get to cross your path much to infrequent, I do enjoy your channel and your approach to all aspects of musicality. Many times its beyond immediate comphrehensions, but constant review and research of your deeds on you tube and can grasp it ....I simply say thanks
This guy is the best Mann. Grateful to have him in music
Luv the way you explain how to play modes... I've learned how to use modes just as you describe... like a "extension" of the pentatonic. And, as you say, it comes very quickly. But, I'm very (very, very) LAZY... when I tried to learn major modes I quickly "discover" a way to learn less positions. Ionian is the major relative of Aeolian, Lydian is the major relative of Dorian, Myxo, is the major relative of Phrygian... as always, Locrian sucks ;). For example, to play a A Lydian, I use the first position of a F# Dorian. You just a have to remember when you phrasing that the root is an A (not a F#), and de "key" notes are the same in the pattern.
Don't know if I'm clear (specially with my poor english).
Thanks for your vids... It's always a pleasure to learn from you :)
Best explanation on modes...EVER! Thanks David.
Thank you Wallimann! I watched lesson#6, mode backing track video and this video without stopping and now I can see the light gently ascending from heavens
The last few master classes have been awesome, David! I have known the modes for years, but not how to use them. These are very practical and have helped me grow after being on a plateau for years.
Exactly the same for me! I feel a breakthrough coming on!
This concept uncovered a lot of doors for my musical journey. I noodle on the pentatonic, and land on these spicy chord tones. I also adjust the third accordingly
Great video!! Such an easy explanation
This is so helpful. Great to hear and see demonstrations like this especially when the music itself is so cool. Thank you David.
This is by far the best way I have seen modes explained, I know that because finally I get it. Top Lesson, Top explanation David. Thank you so much, now I can get out of that boring pentatonic box!!
These are great just started watching your lessons, thanks for putting these out there, very appreciated
fantastic explanations ! thanks very much
GREAT course content, David!!!
Really good lesson, thank you.
Amazingly well explained - as always! Thanks David!
can a phrygian dominant be use with a locrian mode.
I'm on modes in this days and your video is great!
thanks david, you're masterclass is awesome
sir your modal lessons are very helpful!!!Thanks for these lessons :)
This is a tough thing to learn for me but thanks so much for these videos
What a great teacher.Your right up there with ericblackmon. Really great.
You rock! so much info for people and all of these things are a must to know
Really really really really great. Thanks.
im appreciate with your effort bro. pls keep up with your lesson.
Thanks David!!! let´s practice a lot
Great videos thank you good Sir
Haha! Thank you!
what he's teaching, is the band launches into a A major song, your safe with the major scale or you'll fall all over yourself until you can HEAR the mode in your head. I've never heard the singer say" all right we're gonna do a song in A Locrian' hope you like it!"
David,, I'm new here,,, I'm learning the modes and extremely interested in taking my playing further. My question at this time would be in regards to when making the backing track, vamp or loops..... If the notes being played over don't include the notes in the mode,, would using the modes still sound good when trying to playing a lead or phasing ?
It just clicked I’m a bassist I got it now thanks dave
Excellent, super.
Maestro!
Awesome lesson David. Most teach this concept and make it more complicated than what it is. Thank You!
Vinnie explains this pretty good
Makes sense but you couldn’t be Dorian without those because there isn’t enough notes. Consequently, you could just play the modes in harmonic minor or major or minor scales and get the modal sound right? Isn’t that easier to do then trying to decide which notes from the major minor or harmonic minor scales to add in to a pentatonic scale to get the modal sound? And doesn’t that actually explain the reason for the modal sound better?
David, can you clarify what chords you're using for your musical bed? The reason I ask: If we were at an open blues jam, and the band is playing a classic I IV and V chord progression (A, D, E) major chords. We're playing a Minor Pentatonic. Would our choices for modes only be Ionian, Lydian and Mixolydian (major modes)? Or could we solo with Minor Pentatonic and slip into Dorian or Phrygian briefly to add character? Would the Minor mode voices clash with the major chord bed?
You can play all positions on that same progression based on the one chord you move up or down the shapes so if youre doing that A D E you can solo over A Ionian or since its blues also a minor penta, also you can move to B dorian shape, and etc.(Dorian is the second mode starting from the second note of the Ionian, in this case B)
David's course is great btw on guitar infusion, also this webpages is a great resource www.guitar-chords.org.uk/
Thanks Lorenzo. My understanding of that method is starting in A Ionian and moving to B Dorian would simply maintain the A tonality. But if you played A Dorian then it would bring the Dorian tonality. Waiting for David to chime in here😀
if you want to play advanced music , learn all the notes on the fretboard , the intervals and their relationship with common chords.
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You are really good bro....
David, so your vamp chords in A Dorian are: Am7 and F#m7b5? And A Phrygian, Am7 and Bb Maj7? All with A in the bass....
Yes, I usually keep the bass on A so that the color of the mode stands out a bit more. There are multiple options for A Dorian, but BbMaj7 wouldn't work there because that chord is not extracted from A Dorian. The following are:
Am7 Bm7 CMaj7 D7 Em7 F#m7b5 GMaj7
I hope that helps!
Yes! Thank you.
Hi, why do you play the A major scale to explain the 2nd and 6th interval of A dorian? The result is the same but theoretically it's a different matter, isn't it?
+Geeveebee Loves Guitars I use the Major scale as a way to find the intervals because that scale only has Major or perfect intervals. I explain it more in the previous masterclass of you want to go further. :)
David Wallimann Ok, I can dig that. I just have a different approach, I divide the modes/chords into three groups: major, minor, dominant. The reference for major is major(Ionian), for minor, natural minor (Aolean) and mixolydian for dominant. Every other mode is derived from one of those. So alt for example is derived from mixo with b9 #9 b5 b6, were 1 3 (theoretically b4 of course) and b7 are 'untouched'. The reason for this is that I can see, hear and play arpeggios pretty much from one off the basic three chords and fill in the gaps to give some color. I also can throw in some triads as substitutions from the same perspective.
Hi, all roads lead to Rome ;). I use that same approuch. David's approach is perfect for the beginner. I would have done this when i started learning this stuff, its simpel to understand. I also look at it as minor/major/dominant/diminished etc. and then add the color tones. On top of that you also know the inversions and so you get more freedom. But still i dig this approach, wich guitarist doesnt know his pentatonic scale or atleast the minor, just let them add the color tones for the dorian, phrygian or aeolian and their good to go.
True, pentatonics are the nr 1 building blocks for my students :)
so what is the reason not to think about Dm Dorian as Cmaj scale? why major 2 and major 6 calculations are easier? just asking
+Jan Esterlis Great question! I answered it in the last Q&A episode. Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/EwctLcKOfcI/v-deo.htmlm1s
David Wallimann but we do that with melodic minor when playing Lydian dominant or super locrian, right? Always relate to parent melodic minor scale
Yeah how does harmoinc and melodic minor play into modes?
As far as i understand Harmonic minor has its own modes?
:) great job
is that a 25 fret guitar ?
24 fret- the fretboard continues after the last fret because you can't put a fret at the very edge, there would be no support for it.
Hey bro, why haven't you started a Patreon? There are people out there who are making bank with it and they are putting out content that is inferior to yours.
I had one for a little while but it resulted in too many things to update as far as rewards, etc.
David Wallimann any easy thing to do with the Patreon is that for in a given period of time, say 30 or 45 days. Each person who donates a dollar will be entered into a give away for free lessons or a subject matter package. Something easy like that. You can run multiple setups like and all concurrent with each other or even scale them up. Like a 1$ raffle or a 5$ or 10$ raffle for bigger lesson packages.
That locrian mode though, why do they even bother? Sounds like something somebody just made up out of thin air
because it's a good transition into other modes. on it's own it sounds pretty avant garde but if you heard in the A dorian example he went from a dorian to a f# half diminished (close enough) which fits into the locrian mode; i personally think it sounds great transitioning to c lydian