Gordon "Buck 119 Clone" Baton and Brass Rod test

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  • Testing the Gordon Buck 119 Clone for edge retention and durability. Testing the knife batonning oak firewood, and with a brass rod.

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  • @AJ-sb8qk
    @AJ-sb8qk 8 місяців тому +5

    First of all, I love the intro breakdown because the psychology of what people do going into a test with confirmation bias is real, and I'm glad you recognized that and gave a fair review. Food for thought; the one test that I haven't seen anyone do is actually processing game and I'm willing to bet that if you were to process a deer with the Gordon, you wouldn't see a difference if you were strictly using the gordon knife to process game. I'm willing to bet it would be the exact same as the buck, and that's gonna hurt a lot of people feelings because of the price difference but if you're only using it for game, that's the test that I will be interested in.
    Thanks awesome video.
    NEW SUB

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for sharing! I agree these knives would perform the exact same dressing game. There isn’t enough of a difference in the steel performance to warrant any functional difference.
      I think Buck is running on nostalgia at this point. I don’t dislike the company AT ALL, the buck 110 is a favorite of mine. Just seems their prices keep rising but the quality and innovation is a bit stagnant

  • @FerociousSniper
    @FerociousSniper 3 місяці тому +4

    I bought one recently and took it camping. I did about 8 hours of bushcrafting projects, and it was still sharp. That's good enough for me.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  3 місяці тому +3

      That’s awesome, mines holding up well too. If it does the job asked that’s most important I think

  • @g-pawmikey5508
    @g-pawmikey5508 Рік тому +3

    Good info, I've owned a 119 for 30 years, its my hunting knife, not my only get 1 knife choice. I doubt that Gordon would have failed me if I had it instead of the Buck..

  • @johnbanco862
    @johnbanco862 3 роки тому +14

    True very true..use mine all the time.never abuse it..use it for what its made for..i always tell people buy a axe!..good vidio.

  • @namarhodge568
    @namarhodge568 Рік тому +3

    You did a very fair comparison test with these two knifes. You convenience me that I got a very fair deal on a perty decent knife. I thank the Gorden is a well made clone. Both of these knifes, this style is made for stabbing and slicing. You would want those knife, say if a couger attacked. You could stab the chest for the hart, or rib cage for the lungs. You could possibly work on a bear.

  • @mikehoward8201
    @mikehoward8201 4 місяці тому +1

    The buck costs $100, how is that only double the $25 Gordon? On the basis of what I saw in another fellows video, I went out and bought it, and your video basically confirms his video, well worth the $s spent!

    • @keeperoftruth5951
      @keeperoftruth5951 2 місяці тому

      It was about $50 for the buck when the video came out smart one

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 місяці тому

      Depends on which store you buy it at, and whether it’s shipped or not. I’ve seen a huge variation on the pricing of the Buck.

  • @coryames1170
    @coryames1170 2 роки тому +8

    I just bought this knife a couple weeks ago. I may use it as a utility knife. Im not worried about the 7cr17mov steel. Many of my folders have cheaper, softer steels so I can work with it on this knife.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому +2

      7Cr17Mov isn't bad stuff, if it actually is that metal, and it's heat treated properly.

    • @druidic4353
      @druidic4353 Рік тому +1

      @@DDDYLN the Ozark trail is my favorite for that. The pakkawood knife is a buck reaper clone

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому +2

      @@druidic4353 there are a lot of inexpensive knives out there that work just fine.

    • @druidic4353
      @druidic4353 Рік тому +1

      @@DDDYLN oh for sure I definitely prefer my civivi pintail s35vn or kershaw link in 20cv most times. The qsp penguin in m390 is fun too.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому

      @@druidic4353 I bought a Cold Steel SRK CPM-3V for myself as a Christmas present. I wanted it before Cold Steel becomes complete junk. Hopefully it won't suck. I don't normally go in for super steels, but I wanted to have 1.

  • @jimmycecil1287
    @jimmycecil1287 2 роки тому +3

    Silkies make awesome pets. Nice video. I agree, if you abuse a knife, you should expect a bad outcome.

  • @Mikex0123
    @Mikex0123 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see how they take an edge. I have seen several videos showing that it is not sharp out of the box.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому +1

      It doesn’t come razor sharp out of the box, but takes a very serviceable edge.

    • @Mikex0123
      @Mikex0123 Рік тому

      @@urbanlumberjack Good to know. Thank you for the information.

  • @_savage_-qm3pb
    @_savage_-qm3pb Рік тому +3

    Im going to buy this gordon buck clone to carry in bear country

  • @johnny56g
    @johnny56g 2 роки тому +6

    It’s better than a Buck if that’s all you have when you need it.

  • @whitewolf4016
    @whitewolf4016 2 роки тому +2

    Who wants to babysit an expensive knife

  • @danielanthony9621
    @danielanthony9621 6 місяців тому

    There pretty much dead even as far as quality goes. I like the Gordon. A tad longer, throws better and holds the edge a little better. I'll stick with my Gordon. Al yall holding all the money get the Buck, after all it's got the name. 😎

  • @johnbanco862
    @johnbanco862 Рік тому +1

    2nd commet...still going strong...deer.fish.wood craft.still have my 1972 buck 119.it still works good.if u aint got the money the gorden will work fine.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому +1

      That’s awesome! Those vintage bucks are great knives.

  • @faronchristopher4998
    @faronchristopher4998 2 роки тому +2

    Would like to see the handle taken off one of these to see how the tang is attached to the pommel, because it seemingly isn't threaded or peened. Maybe injection molded on?

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +2

      It’s really hard to see, but there is a pin through the pommel and tang. Probably aluminum I’m guessing because it blends in so well

    • @faronchristopher4998
      @faronchristopher4998 2 роки тому +1

      @@urbanlumberjack ah, alright. As long as it's secure unlike alot of flea market knives lol. Thanks alot

  • @hyregeg9730
    @hyregeg9730 5 місяців тому

    You ain't buying that buck for no 40 dollars no where Wal-Mart or pawn shop

  • @josephzerbe2945
    @josephzerbe2945 Рік тому

    Good info! I will be making a purchase soon. Thabks

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому

      Hope this helps!

    • @mikehoward8201
      @mikehoward8201 4 місяці тому

      Good luck on finding it, my main HF was sold out but visited a smaller town HF, and they still had it in stock. Bought1 and left the other two for the next guys who hear about it! Ha ha.

  • @hyregeg9730
    @hyregeg9730 5 місяців тому

    Hell the sheath is probably worth 20 dollars

  • @justinbates2185
    @justinbates2185 Рік тому

    I take a knife fixed blade with at least a 7” blade hunting with me for camp tasks and let’s say I lose my gun or the ammo runs out and I need to make a spear or stab an animal and am having a real bad day. I wouldn’t use this knife for hunting but a belt knife for around the farm and pasture yeah all day long.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому

      Good plan, sounds about right for this knife as wel

  • @BrianPayne-v1m
    @BrianPayne-v1m 6 місяців тому

    Just as as a buck 119 I'll bye ten of them

  • @wornout3499
    @wornout3499 Рік тому

    do you think a mora is better then this? I have seen mora chipped edge after hitting it through some Fir. maybe the mora was to sharp.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому

      I love mora knives. I have probably ten. They are great for the price and be very functional. The scandi grind they put on some of them does thin the edge quite a bit though, and they will chip sooner than a convex knife

  • @mattzee6287
    @mattzee6287 Рік тому

    Someone bet me I couldn't throw my buck folder into floor and make it stick.
    It stuck. And left 3/4" of the tip permanently in the floor.
    Last time I camped: 4 kids ,wife and I drove to campsite .
    On way there, we "had to stop at Casey's"
    The sheer tonnage of thin cardboard alone, made me envy any man who can need knife that makes smaller pieces of wood for a fire.
    The 119 takes longer to lose edge than harbor freight clone.
    It also takes longer to sharpen the 119 once you do.
    The 119 makes borderline incredible use of 420 stainless...
    But it cost around 4x more.
    I could easily live whole life with 2 Gordon knives.
    But , I chose Odenwolf W1 440c stainless instead.
    And track of the wolf Trekker axe.
    Recommend bastard file for the axe in travel bag.
    Also, I recommend having children, despite the debris.

  • @catatumbo8390
    @catatumbo8390 Рік тому

    Same with the Hi-point firearms

  • @ArnoldNiernberger
    @ArnoldNiernberger 11 місяців тому

    US Army its a good knife

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN Рік тому +1

    I have no need for a Buck 119. However, since the Gordon is now $25, I'd say it's worth paying a little more than double for the Buck, solely for warranty.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому +1

      This makes a lot of sense. There just isn’t enough of a price difference between the two to justify the purchase IMHO.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому

      @@urbanlumberjack if it was $15, I'd say get it. $25 is a bit much for Chinesium!

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому

      @@urbanlumberjack if you're a hunter (I'm not), you can buy a set of 3 Mossy Oak knives for $20 (at least it used to be $20). I'm sure it's basic 3Cr13. They're not bad SS knives though. I have a set for doing stuff when I know I can't keep my carbon steel knives dry and oiled. They're decently thick blades, the nylon sheaths have nice plastic inserts, and they actually have thick, full hidden tangs. They also have jimping for fine work. One knife in the set has a gut hook. I've abused them, and they do okay.

  • @dennishein2812
    @dennishein2812 2 роки тому +1

    That was more reasonable batoning. At least you were taking smaller chunks off. I prefer not to baton a knife unless I’m using smaller stuff for kindling. For wood processing I use an axe or a blade with at least 1/4 inch thickness. You might have to stab a tree trunk if it suddenly attacks you. You’re in Georgia don’t know what your trees are like. Sometimes ours will fall over on you.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому

      Our trees are more or less docile around these parts, but you can never be too careful…

  • @enriqueoliva6988
    @enriqueoliva6988 2 роки тому +1

    Flash Gordon 119 clone make a good beater knife or to lend to someone borrowing a knife.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому

      Haha that’s hilarious. Agreed. TBH I don’t use either that much for work, because I’m always afraid of breaking them. That rat tail design is just asking for trouble. But the 119 does make a wonderful game knife so there’s that

  • @michaelpayne8000
    @michaelpayne8000 2 роки тому +1

    I'm going to invest in one of those Harbor Freight is just a few minutes away from me..

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +1

      It’s a decent knife, honestly better than I expected.

  • @vojdanzaprov4643
    @vojdanzaprov4643 2 роки тому +1

    Hi there...I got a Buck 119 clone it's not Gordon's but I suppose it is thesame manufacturer from China from what I can tell. It is a soft steel but strong build, and for normal use in the woods or camping for the price 20 bucks, it's perfectly all right.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +1

      It very well could be made in the same place as the Gordon, I’ve found mine to be reasonably well built, happy you like it!

    • @ee-wp7vq
      @ee-wp7vq Рік тому

      Do you have a link to the knife?

  • @cb3391
    @cb3391 Рік тому

    Truth it's a knife,
    Ty for fair testing

    • @cb3391
      @cb3391 Рік тому

      I will be getting one.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому

      Thanks for taking the time to let me know! I’ve used the knife quite a bit since this review, and it’s held up to everything. And unlike my buck, I’m not afraid to use it for harsher tasks. Thanks again!

  • @MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
    @MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 8 місяців тому

    Bravo for a non biased Factual spot on presentation!
    Yes indeed, Buck produces an awesome effective knife series! So much so that it is being replicated!
    You got the correct mindset about going about with this specificly designed knife as you stated the designed original purpose uses for the knife!
    Your test as well as others, clearly prove that the Harbor Freight Gordon Hunting knife is actually in some ways on par or even superior to the might Buck 119.
    The reality of it all is Yes China's people can indeed produce some exceptional, excellent quality useful products! For those who seek to avoid buying Made In China products, I view this as not supporting the Chicom government rather supporting the individual people of China.
    The Harbor Freight Gordon replica is a sturdy dependable knife. With either the original Buck 119 or the Harbor Freight Gordon, a responsible user will be able to slice Salami/Meat meals to butchering wild game,Fish, Deer, Bear,Wild Boars/ Hogs etc. Cutting Ropes or even as an emergency; Personal Safety Defensive Device to defend one's valuable lives against apex predatorial animal attacks such as; Bears, Boars, or Mountain Lion, etc!

  • @terrybest8973
    @terrybest8973 10 місяців тому

    Exactly right you are my friend

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! Still using the knife, it’s holding up well.

  • @007twm
    @007twm 2 роки тому +1

    Great review.Thanks.

  • @bunsonhoneydew9099
    @bunsonhoneydew9099 2 роки тому +1

    I have one and it's nice. I also have two Buck knives. They are nice too. All of them are not as nice as my Randal Made #1 fighter. It's all relative. I would rather beat up my clone and keep the other ones nice. Get a Gordon.

  • @cheapmovies25
    @cheapmovies25 Рік тому

    A cs sk5 srk is only 40

  • @turtlewolfpack6061
    @turtlewolfpack6061 2 роки тому

    The brass rod test on a deep hollow grind is a bit off because of how it is ground. I have abused my Buck 119 pretty bad and it is more than acceptable with the design.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +1

      A decent blade, to be sure. I feel a lot of problems with the knife could be solved by increasing the thickness of the tang. It is a beautiful knife with a great blade by the length is too much for the size of the tang.

    • @turtlewolfpack6061
      @turtlewolfpack6061 2 роки тому

      @@urbanlumberjack I can't say I see it the same as you as I actually prefer tangs of this style in almost all designs of knives. However, that doesn't mean that either is wrong!
      In all honesty it all boils down to personal preference.

  • @wakilorokunle9650
    @wakilorokunle9650 2 роки тому +1

    Buy 2

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +1

      Of the Buck 119s? I’d love to, and hoping one day I can have some money to throw at the channel to do cool stuff like test a tool to failure. Thanks for watching.

  • @jakebissel2074
    @jakebissel2074 2 роки тому +1

    Impressed

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому

      It held up ok, honestly better than I expected. From what I’ve observed Chinese manufacturing is increasing in quality, and sadly, a lot of domestic manufacturing is doing the opposite.

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 2 роки тому

    The cheap one is made of softer steel that will roll the edge sooner and dull more quickly but is also easy to sharpen again. It will wear out sooner so if that bothers you. Main reason for cheap price is soft steel is easier to machine and cheaper to finish. The sheath is nice and you will never cry if you lose or break it so good value that way.

    • @ziggarillo
      @ziggarillo 2 роки тому +3

      He just completely debunked that in both his vidwos about this knife, The steel is neither softer or easier to sharpen than the buck according to his series of tests

  • @bmphil3400
    @bmphil3400 2 роки тому

    For the same price buy two Moras.......

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN Рік тому

    Has anyone taken one apart to see what the tang situation is?

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  Рік тому +1

      I’m sure it’s a two pin rat tail design like the Buck. The pins are visible in the same places.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN Рік тому

      @@urbanlumberjack the thickness of the hidden tang is important, as are the transition fillets. That said, after seeing pictures of the 119 tang, it doesn't appear to have fillets. I don't think I would describe the Buck as a rat tail. I'd call it a hidden tang. Rat tail tang typically means it has another piece of thin metal welded to it along the length. Any knife that doesn't have a visible tang, is technically not full tang. I don't mind sacrificing a little tang width for a nice rubber over-mould.

  • @jonslife3533
    @jonslife3533 2 роки тому +1

    I can buy 3-5 old hickory or forge craft high carbon blades for this price
    Found a green river, a forge craft hi carbon slicer and an unmarked butcher knife with a good high carbon steel for 23 dollars a while back
    Though its not the worst knife, think money can be better spent thereb

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому

      Old hickory knives are great. I own nearly a complete set and use them almost daily. I agree money can be spent better elsewhere.
      This knife style is minimally functional. Not good for work, not great for camping, and honestly not great for game either. It’s functional art, really.

    • @jonslife3533
      @jonslife3533 2 роки тому

      @@urbanlumberjack king of cheap stainless clip points though would have to hands down be the mossy oak imitation bone handle or the old time Bowie knife

  • @longrider42
    @longrider42 2 роки тому

    Nice Chicken.

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому

      Thank you! She’s a great little bird, egg every other day like clockwork.

  • @danmarcell3167
    @danmarcell3167 2 роки тому +5

    The real knife can be bought at Walmart for around 40.00 so be a real man and buy the real knife

    • @coryames1170
      @coryames1170 2 роки тому +5

      $40.00? Where I live the price has gone up to $70.00. Even on Amazon its gone up in price.

    • @danmarcell3167
      @danmarcell3167 2 роки тому

      @@coryames1170 try Walmart

    • @coryames1170
      @coryames1170 2 роки тому +2

      @@danmarcell3167 that's where the price has gone up to $70.00

    • @bunsonhoneydew9099
      @bunsonhoneydew9099 2 роки тому +1

      That real man argument works as well as the "C'mon...c'mon!" one does.

    • @danmarcell3167
      @danmarcell3167 2 роки тому

      @@bunsonhoneydew9099 it works well in this case because it's clearly the better made knife...

  • @TylerSnyder305
    @TylerSnyder305 3 роки тому +4

    You think that this cheap shameless chinese knockoff actually deserves a chance ?
    I think this knife should be universally panned and hated because it's a knockoff.
    It deserves no credit in my opinion.
    I believe if you can't afford or won't spend the $47.99 the Buck 119 costs then you don't actually want or need it, find something else.
    You can't have your cake and eat it too, and theres just no place or excuse for knockoffs like this.
    I don't write this off because I think the 119 is the worlds greatest knife, I do so because it's a knockoff of the 119.
    If this were not a knockoff I would not say " just get the Buck 119 ".
    Maybe when you get down to it this thing is not a terrible knife, but it's a knockoff which to me completely nullifies every saving grace it may have.

    • @bunsonhoneydew9099
      @bunsonhoneydew9099 2 роки тому +8

      Lighten up Francis. Clones have their place

    • @TylerSnyder305
      @TylerSnyder305 2 роки тому +1

      @@bunsonhoneydew9099
      No they don't.
      You can't have your cake and eat it too, if you do not want to pay what a knife costs then you don't really want it and should not be buying some cheap inferior copy of something you did not really want.
      If you choose instead to support the shady business practices of an unknown Chinese company who steals from others and belive that the knife will actually be made as well and of the materials it claims to be, then you really need to ask yourself some serious questions.
      Clones have no place, they just further the problem of people wanting what they can't afford and lowering themselves to get what they must convince themselves is the same thing.
      I'm not into modern knives and dislike how intellectual property is the absolute most important thing in that market to the point where that knife better not even remotely look like this one or you're a shameless thief, but I still know that counterfiets and clones are not a good thing.
      We cannot let China continue to take and take, we must support domestic production and stand against blatant theft.

    • @TylerSnyder305
      @TylerSnyder305 2 роки тому

      @@LXT43 they do care, but sometimes it's just easier to let the knife through knowing many wont care because they're going to sharpen it anyways and that whoever does happen to care can go through warranty and Buck will make it right.
      They are well known to have the best customer service in the industry.
      You have to remember that they are hand ground and they can't take the time to do a perect job for what the knife costs.
      They're not high end custom or semi custom knives, they're affordable mass produced working knives.
      I have seen many factory seconds from Buck and if it weren't for the arrow sticker pointing for the flaw I'd never know it was there, and in some cases I still couldn't really figure out what the supposed flaw was.

    • @TylerSnyder305
      @TylerSnyder305 2 роки тому

      @@LXT43 I've never had a single Buck that was as unevenly ground as you suggest your knife was.
      Shit happens and a bad example can slip through the cracks, it was not a cosmetic defect and the knife was probably one that could still outlast you.
      Cold steel is a different story , they have low enough profit margins that they could afford to reject more if the edges on their knives were ground by hand.
      I'm not making excuses I'm telling you why things are the way they are.
      Buck knives is putting out functionally very high quality knives that tend to cost a fraction of what they should, and the hand operations may result in things that would make an overly demanding picky person unhappy but the knives have everything that matters.

    • @LXT43
      @LXT43 2 роки тому

      @@TylerSnyder305 Well, I've bought too many Buck knives that "slipped through the cracks" and I'm not buying that excuse anymore. American work ethic and taking pride in making an American product is long gone, at least with Buck. I'm done with them.

  • @dualsportoutdoors
    @dualsportoutdoors 2 роки тому

    No need to even test it. It fails just for being a clone. Buck should sue gordon straight out of business for ripping off their design

    • @urbanlumberjack
      @urbanlumberjack  2 роки тому +4

      I know people love their Buck knives, my favorite is my 102. Skinned my first deer with it. I appreciate your input, and have many of the same resentments toward clones you do.
      Chinese manufacturing is getting better and better and US manufacturing is going down the tubes. No other way to say it. I felt very sad when I received a defective Buck and a perfectly fine, of not better, Buck 119 Clone.

    • @wakilorokunle9650
      @wakilorokunle9650 2 роки тому

      Maybe Gordon is a subsidiary of buck

    • @dualsportoutdoors
      @dualsportoutdoors 2 роки тому

      @@wakilorokunle9650 it’s not