Hey here is a question exactly why do people think Muhammad went over to Israel it was like the other 52 empires that came through to conquer the Jewish holy land . And why is there so much mention of Jewish history in Christianity and Islam because you both copied our religion atleast Christian’s give us some credit calling it Judea Christianity . Islam is all the way delusional and desperate to hold Jewish history hostage . That’s why the burial site of Abraham Sarah Jacob and Issac is in Palestinian control even though Islam believed Abraham to be buried in Mecca . And that’s why they cry settlers even though you people know damn well who’s history is under that ground . Oh and by the way just because you call it a genocide means nothing . If Israel came out with a list of 30,000 Israelis they claim Hamas killed overnight would you just take there word for it ?
Pls can you send me name of the young man debating with the zionist professor... that young man is so so brilliant and so calm... I really need to find him and follow whatever social media network he's on
The professor needed only to show his ID from a legitimate independent genealogical testing service proving his claim to Hebrew origin. Easy enough. Here's a Fun Israel Fact: Genealogical testing to prove such origin is illegal in Israel. Were DNA evidence of any connection to any ancient Hebrews in Palestine a requirement for citizenship, ninety percent of Israelis would be ejected right away. He demonstrates his ignorance, as well as his lack of veracity and conscience.
Jews from all walks of life are open-minded about any topic on earth, but will instantly switch to the pre-programmed mode when it comes to their Jewishness.
@CoolAce1-dv1pnaffirmative action? Probably not. Good ol’ boys networks and family ties? Probably. He isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. You think George W Bush graduated college because of his “hard work?” This guy is not different.
My Great, Great Grandfather and Grandmother were Ashkenazi Jewish, their daughters and sons married outside the religion! I have zero rights to any land in the Middle East! End of story!
You don't want it, fine but you can't fault anyone that wants his ancestors land back especially when he went back and bought it but someone decides that he can't take the land that he bought?. Get over yourself.
@@winnersfootballtv5517Know decent knowledgeable ppl believe anything you just commented. The lies are so tedious. Also ppl don’t seem to be very good at lying. Perhaps because ppl have just allowed them to get way with it for fear of being called anti. Those days are passed. When ppl show you who they are believe them.
No one has "land rights" inherently because they are Jewish. Jews have lived there for thousands of years. The entire world gave them a tiny strip of land in the aftermath of the Holocaust. Go learn about Jewish history and antisemitism and you'll understand why Jews require the right to self-determination just like any other ethnic group...
My ancestors were Bohemian, and British Isles. I'm an American. I do not have the right to kick someone out of their homes . Because of my ancestors. End of story.
That is a good logic but remember, most of these zi-nists are from to begin with europe and then north africa and parts of the middle east. They're claim is a bloodline 2000 years ago which is non existant even if they were the jews from 2000 years ago. The only way they can prove it is by naming family lineage for 2000 years lol. Even DNA tests dont pinpoint to palestine, instead a broad middle east, eurasian, european and north african. Ashkenazi is straight up European and eurasian though by converts from Khazars
If you are American you have kicked people out and pretty much annihilated the indigenous. It’s ok for current day Americans, Canadians, Aussies, New Zealanders to do so, but got forbid the persecuted Jewish do so in a landmass that is as small as the size of Wales. Additionally, they want to revert to land that their ancestors were persecuted and ethnically cleansed from, not so for the European invaders, colonisers and imperialists in all of the above Countries. Borders and nation states were created post WW2, Why is it that only Israel is scrutinised to this degrees and no other post WW2 state?
Ahmad Yassine, founder of Hamas, was born near Ashkelon, also pushed with his family to Gaza by Israel. To refuse to see that 70% of Gazans came from the places where Israelis now live is to be blind. We cannot understand October 7th without knowing History. ~ Shlomo Sand (Jewish historian)
"The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty?" ~ Bertrand Russell
In listing the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948, Khaled al-Azm (Syrian Prime Minister) notes that "Since 1948, it is we who have demanded the return of the refugees, while it is we who made them leave. We brought disaster upon a million Arab refugees by inviting them and bringing pressure on them to leave. We have accustomed them to begging...we have participated in lowering their morale and social level...Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson and throwing stones upon men, women and children...all this in the service of political purposes..." -- Khaled el-Azm, Syrian prime minister after the 1948 War, in his 1972 memoirs, published in 1973. "It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem." -- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949 "Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe." -- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz). "The Arab Exodus …was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread by the Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews. …For the flight and fall of the other villages it is our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... By spreading rumors of Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy." -- The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953. "Arabs still living in Israel recall being urged to evacuate Haifa by Arab military commanders who wanted to bomb the city." -- Newsweek, January 20, 1963 "The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in." -- A refugee quoted in Al Difaa (Jordan) September 6, 1954
The tragedy of the non-Jewish people of Palestine (as some were Jewish), was that they did not take the opportunity to establish an independent entity, where they never before had such an entity, on land that was held by different conquering empires since the ancient Judean and Israelite kingdoms, because they could not accept and live with the Jews having ANY part of the land ... a land their ancestors originated from and on which there was always a Jewish presence since those ancient kingdoms ... and they allowed themselves to be pawns of other Arab and Muslim countries in their fight against Israel. Ask yourself why Jordan and Egypt, who both ruled the West Bank and the Gaza Strip for 19 years, never handed over the land to the Palestinians to establish a homeland in, ah?
@@Baci302 not only are there no religious rights to any land, rather rights of nationalities/ethnicities, or groups, to live on a land (not to the land), where did you see me mention religious rights to the land? Judaism is not only a religion, it is also a nationality/ethnicity. Jews, as an ethnic group, have a right to live and self determine on the land due to their historical connection to it, and the fact that they have been living on it for the last 3000 years, and more. This does not mean that other non-Jewish groups do not have the right to live on the land as well. The difference is, that most Jews accept this and are willing to live side by side the other group peacefully (if the other group will be peaceful), but the vast majority of the other group is not willing to accept the right of the Jews to live and self determine on the land, and have rejected any peaceful coexistence, as long as it involves a self determined Jewish entity on ANY part of the land.
"their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state." ? And how do you think that countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan came to be? You don't care how other (20 or so) Arab -muslim countries were "given" land but a jewish state on a tiny patch of desert with no oil...that's unacceptable? ua-cam.com/video/necPCKnfMd4/v-deo.html
How is it genocide if the army moves the civilians to security zones and lets Egypt, the United States and other countries bring in food and medical aid?
@@TalReu When told that this conflict didn’t start on Oct07, he replied “that’s offensive!” Hundreds of Gazan children have had buildings come down on their little heads. Hundreds of children have endured excruciating burn and broken bones pains before succumbing to their injuries. This man is more concerned about the 2 hostage children, still alive, being pulled out of their beds- his guess. That’s what he said wrong.
@@nj1638 But how does the murderous terrorist attack by an Islamist jihadist terrorist organization have anything to do with the fact that you claim it didn't start before the seventh of October? You are just giving excuses to a terrorist organization that murdered everything it saw including dogs and kidnapped people. Why should one person's pain come at the expense of another's pain? Why can't you feel sadness for the Israelis as well?
@@rubyring2461 hello, I'm referencing the professors understanding Zionist to be Jewish people who deserve a land of their own. Zionist is a political organization not a religion,
@@antoinette3828 yeah I kinda get that but I'm just pointing out that it's okay to want your land to be yours especially after being kicked out twice. There's a reason Zionist movement started and carrus on today because all these years later after going back people still hate on them for merely existing. If it wasn't for Islam no one would have a problem with the Jews (well they'll still be hated) but they wouldn't have to put up with the constant threat.
@CoolAce1-dv1pn actually a lot of experts have called it a genocide. But no matter what you want to call it it's definitely a tragedy and there's no need to minimize it. Sorry to pop your balloon.
The professor doesn’t answer the question just bring stories about other conflicts that have nothing to do with this conflict. Israel is committing war crimes.
the professor is living in a fantasy world, if he thinks that the IDF is not targeting hospital if you want to believe the professor will be lying to ourselves
Guy the same as any other open Nazi. He is openly advocating for permanently expelling Gazans into Egypt. The university should be ashamed of itself. If you wouldn’t allow someone goose stepping around and starting class with a Heil Hitler then you should not be employing this guy either!
this professor actually had the facts straight! The pro palastine "debator" simply knows how to use his mouth to articulate words, but there wasn't much power to his words!
The so called FACTS are twisted to fit either narrative. This shouldn't be about whether Israel should be there because it's common sense if you know anything and if you do want to believe that Palestinians have a bit of Jewish blood then that means Israel should rule over Gaza too but they pulled out to try and resolve things in 2005. This shouldn't even be happening but it is because Muslims hate that the Jew's are doing well and they want the middle East ISLAMIC until people see this situation for what it is this will NEVER be resolved. The Jews don't even want to admit that another religion would be so political and evil they need to stop thinking that people wouldn't do these things. But as usual people are going to go with the usual propaganda.
I think even Jewish are confused what really defines as Jews, I’ve been asking same questions, and they never were able to give me clear definition what defines Jewish. It’s like they want to recruit as many people as possible to make it a big club. Honestly, to me all don’t matter, what matters to me is kindness and respect to each other, and call it a day!
no bro. The Jew answered you clearly, you are the one who is confused. Judaism is a combination of ethnicity and religion. And we are not a missionary religion, we are not looking for new believers. In fact if you want to convert, the rabbis will dissuade you to see if your desire is sincere and true, Jewish conversion takes many years and is specifically designed to kick out all those who are not sincere.
Yes - but he's surrounded by a bunch of loony tunes & is demonstrably feeling nervous because he's being so outnumbered & attacked by people of all different ethnicities - none who are seemingly able to accept Jews as a people with a right to exist in their own land of their ancestral home. Most Palestinians are a fake bunch of Arabs, historically roaming tribes, many who arrived in Palestine around the same time as the Jews because they viewed Jews as a conduit to their own prosperity. This is not to deny there weren't Palestinian Arabs living in the lands beforehand, however, since 1967 Palestinian demography has been fraudulently increased out of all proportion because organisations like UNWRA who granted them uniquely a refugee status carried throughout successive generations which surrounding Arab & other hostile autocratic countries played on once they realised they weren't successful in annihilating Israel militarily.
"Take the worst thing you can about Hamas multiply it by a thousand times and it still will not meet the the Israeli repression and mass killing and dispossession of Palestinians." ~ Gabor Maté Holocaust Survivor
“Since its establishment, Israel has engaged in brutal oppression of the rights of Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians are imprisoned, beaten and tortured; children are taken from their beds and beaten by soldiers who are armed to the teeth.”-Miko Peled.
What the hell are you talking about? Judaism was defined as being determined by the mither and not by religious faith or actions for over 2000 years? This is a definition of an ethnicity, not that if a religion. So quit from the get go, as were many other religions in antiquity, Judaism was both a religion and an ethnicity at the same time (it's just that the definition of ethnicity is modern, so it might confuse you to think that what it defines also ce into being just in modern times).
@@fassstar By your silly definition all religions of the world would qualify as ethnicities as many people are the same religion as the parents and forefathers . You are aware no that anyone can convert into judaism-as I know many people who have so that is not the only way to become Jewish. Please educate yourself and read the learned writings of many orthodox rabbis that defy this zionist framing of judaism like Rabbi Shapiro or Dovid Woeiss based on a true historical lens. Ethnicity requires a shared culture - in what planet do ethiopian, eastern europe , arab jews ,spanish or portuguese jews all share a same culture ? Which is why there are terms for the different ethnic groups(Mizhrai, Sephardic, Ashkenazi etc) these Jews are a part of. And this groups don’t even practice their Judaism in the same way. Because all these diverse group of Jews don’t share a singular ethnic culture the Zionist project had to invent an Israeli identity , culture and language stealing much from Palestine. The concept of Jews having a racialized ethnicity came not only from Zionist but was also first used as a racist trope used to commit pogroms and victimize Jews as an other. In other words it’s base is very anti semitic as it is based on a deep hatred of those who practice Judaism.
@@fassstar You can convert to judaism like any religion. Many people are born of mothers from their same religion . And can trace multiple generations in the same religion but there is no muslim ,christian , hindu or buddhist ethnicity .Ethnicity is defined by having a shared culture. There is no shared culture among these different jewish groups which is why they are identified by their culture as Mizhari, Sephardic and Ashkenazi and there are differences even in their practice of Judaism .Israel had to invent a shared cultural identity and language much of it taken from Palestinian culture. Sadly zi- on- ist have embraced the racist ideas of the Europeans who pogromed them by defining Jewishness as a racialized religion.
@@QueenN-Jingalives 1. In all other religions, if you stop practicing the religion you are no longer considered part of that religion. In Judaism, if you stop practicing you are still considered a Jew. So no, Judaism is not like the other religions, as it is also an ethnicity. 2. Though they are differences between the cultures of the different Jewish diasporas ... as you would expect due to almost 2000 years of living between different non-Jewish cultures ... there is the same base to all these cultures - same base holidays, same base of prayers, shared languages (Hebrew and Aramaic used for scriptures, not as day to day languages) used etc. 3. Jews from different diasporas saw themselves part of the same people way before any race theories were invented. So no, you are wrong in that point as well.
@@fassstar All your statements are demonstrably false. 1.Read any Orthodox Judaism-they does not recognize “secular” Jews as Jews if they don’t follow the laws of the Torah -who don’t practice. This false idea again was a creation of the Zi- on- ist who created Israel who were all not practicing and were upset they could not be accepted by racist Europeans despite their best efforts . And for your information you can claim Catholicism at anytime if you had a sacrament ( baptism, confirmation ) without practicing. It’s called a lapsed Catholic. There are many Catholics who extent of practice is making sure their children are baptized and that’s it. 2. The differences of culture, language, dress and traditions between the different Jewish population are the definition of different ethnicity. As you note 2000 years in many different areas with converts to your religion makes it impossible to maintain a singular ethnicity. Even if you accept your argument that every Jewish person has a Jewish mother who can trace their ancestry to Iraq region ( where Abraham is supposed to have originated from according to biblical scholars), basic math over 2000 years with intermarriage (nevermind conversion of the Jewish mother ) makes it very clear that is a very diluted DNA tree. You simply need to look at DNA testing between these different Jewish groups . Eastern European Jews share closer DNA with Christian Eastern European not with Ethiopian or Mizhrahi Jews. Ethiopian Jews share closer DNA with Ethiopian Christians.That is one reason Israel outlaws DNA testing- they fear Israelis knowing that reality which demonstrates there is no shared ancestry. This is very different from the Palestinians. If you DNA any Palestinians you will see how closely related they are. 3.All Jewish people do not accept the concept that in order to be part of the Jewish religion, Judaism, they must abandon their individual culture or their ethnicity. You need to read the many non-Zi - on- ist Jewish writings. Again before the false narrative of Zi - on- ist and racist Europeans , Jewish people were proud participants of the country cultures they participated in for 2000 years. It is profoundly sad that anyone Jewish promotes these racist tropes against their own religion.
@@hanna319 comments like yours are why nobody takes IsNotReal seriously. Hundreds of Palestinians have been getting killed and abused months before October 7th- but you only care once Jews start dying. It’s like talking to brick walls
@@youknowme1475 Israel’s constant killing and jailing of civilians while poisoning water enforcing an air, land and sea blockade, along with the persecution of Palestinians in Jerusalem is why October 7th happened. History doesn’t happen in a vacuum
BigTonyRockets We saw a genocide apologist making propaganda replies to real questions. Stop supporting genocide ! !!!stop lying !!! No one believes a word any zionist says
This professor did a really good job keeping his cool under a barrage of abuse. He put up with a lot of garbage from these rude, oblivious, and egotistical young hotshots. Good job, professor. Today is day 254. I can’t believe how much worse things have gotten since day 150. The hate has erupted. This is what people consider “civilization.” I call it atrocious. My heart aches for the hostages and their families as this living nightmare continues. The hardheartedness of these people is hard to take.
False claim. Judaism is ethnicity and religion connected. That's how it's defined. If you were born a Jew you have no choice, only converts who choose to be Jews and then have to undergo conversion have a choice.
@@hanna319 it is a religious choice nothing more Zionists came up with the idea that they com make an ethnicity out of it but it is nothing more than a religious choice of your mother follows judaism so will you . That is why israelis are not allowed DNA tests
@@hanna319 good try though my great grandmother followed Judaism and but then her son married a Catholic so he was then a Catholic that's how that works but you have the satanic state of the Israeli fake state so we know you brainwashed
There are 2 separate sides of "zionism" and both need to be understood. It is true that Theodore Herzl was not a religious man and his main goal was to establish a homeland for Jews where they could live in safety. HOWEVER, there,is also the fact that literally for thousands of years, long before the birth of Herzl and long before the birth of Islam, the Jews have been zionists; praying three times,a day to return to their homeland which is referred to as Zion, as Israel, as Judea throughout their daily prayers. This is not a movement that began with Theodore Herzl.
There is no test that shows Palestinians as being from the ancient Israelites. It shows them being from the Levant. That is no conclusive enough that they were from Jews. The Levant encompasses a lot of land that wasn’t ancient israel. The Romans named the land Phillistine as an insult to the Jews because it was a people who went to war with Jews and took part of ancient Israel.
@@harrynewhof3165 Why it’s hilarious? That is historically true that Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites. Also, DNA studies show that Palestinians are more Israelite than the Jews in Israel. Look at Israelis surnames their surnames sound European and have no connection with that land. Ashkenazis come from Khazaria.
@@harrynewhof3165 When the Arab Muslims conquered Juresalem from the Romans, the natives were already there (Canaanites and the Israelities). The Arab Muslims got mixed with the Canaanites more than the Israelities. The Canaanites and the Israelities became Muslims. This proves that Palestinians are Semitic. They are the direct descendants of the Canaanites.
The pro-Palestinian side has one big erroneous assumption, and that is that ethetnicity and DNA are the same. From Britanica, "Ethnicity refers to the identification of a group based on a perceived cultural distinctiveness that makes the group into a “people.” This distinctiveness is believed to be expressed in language, music, values, art, styles, literature, family life, religion, ritual, food,…" Therefore, it is possible both to join an ethetnicity and to leave it, even if genetically you can trace some of your origin to it. There is no doubt that some of the Palestinians originate from Jews who lived on the land in ancient times. Nevertheless, it does not automatically mean that they are still ethnically Jews. Moreover, others originate from non Jewish ancestors who either immigrated to the land during Helenistic and Roman rule over the land, or during later periods under the various Christian European Crusaders or Muslim conquerers of the land ... some as late as the early to mid 20th century. BTW, all this is not to say that Palestinians do not have a right to live on the land and to self determination. They do, but as long as a large portion of them, currently the majority based on polls, will not accept the Jews rights to live on the land and to self determination as well ... contra to the pro-Palestinian claim, many do not accept Jewish history of the land and Jews rights to live and self determination on any part of it ... there will be no way to achieve this for both sides.
What about the Palestinian children in Israel prisons held under administrative arrest? Aren't they children as well, do their pain matter, or do you believe Pains is only "reserve" to Zionists?
Yes little children pulled out of there bed every night in raids from isrelainsomdiers over n over 3300 children killed over 8 years 4 year old 6 year olds
He is supposed to be a professor, but he is not even curious when it comes to human suffering on the other side. He is a so called educated man that simply does not want to know.
Moronic - this guy wants to claim he is everyone a philistine descendent (came from Greece) and then a Jewish descendent (came from Judea) but never an Arab from hmm Arabia? So now Arabs are Jews not Arabian and Muslims are really Jews that were previously converted to Christianity. But towards the end he comments on the story that Mohammed brought Jewish families back to live as Jews in Jerusalem which is part of Judea. Corrections: -The nation of Israel was formulated on entering Israel - that nationhood is passed down on a maternal line only but the religion has a way to permit one to join that nation through conversion. The Nation is what inherited the land. -Christianity was popularised in Rome; almost no Jews joined the sect originally! -The world Zionism was not coined by Theodore Herzl and actually was coined well after Jews started moving back to Israel and after the 1st Aliyah which was larger secular Jews . -The move back to Israel was initially more religious in the earlier in the 1800s and supported the religious communities already present in Safed, Jerusalem and Hebron. All those who are against stealing identities are somehow OK with this nonsense?!
Dialogue is good only when people leave their biases and preconceived beliefs at the door and keep an open mind to change their mind when facts and legit arguments are presented.
the Ḥamas minister of the interior , Fathi Ḥammad, slammed Egypt for not helping enough and that Gaza deserved more brotherly assistance from Egypt, saying that “half of the Palestinians are Egyptian and the other half are Saudis.” wow . kind of refutes their whole claim to the land
The fact that all these European refugee Israelis have no history in this land going back before 1947 proves they have no claim to anything and the current genocide will insure that Israel in the eyes of the UN and every other human right watch is officially a war criminal apartheid state the same as Hitlers Germany and will suffer the same fate.
I appreciate that the Professor made a concerted effort to have a dialogue with students even though I think he is ill informed. But I do think it's important for these guys to keep talking so that they can see each other as human beings.
The whole war is hell. Argument kind of falls apart when only one side is dying by the thousands. .they neeed to remind these people that not a single Israeli civilian has died since October 7th. But almost 100 Palestinian children have died every day since that time.
@@darrene.vonbraun4421 we can’t change histoire , Jewish People all over the world has Kept the Jewish tradition, has kept the Bible, Talmud, Guemara and nebiim, has avoided mix marriages, has preserve the dinim, all these was carry on for millennia ! you are moslem, you have your own identity, why the need to conquer our Jewish identity, aren’t you proud of yours? Your cause will be more serious if you adhere to what you are! Don’t change this, you need to be a proud moslem! And yes, Jesus was Jewish , not moslem, Moslem religion came six hundred after Jesus
@user-nq1kh8eo3b listen, mate. I have very deep feelings of empathy and sympathy for the plight of Jewish people at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries. I think Israel is here to stay and that israel should not be destroyed. However, I am against the continued governance of israel as an ethno-state. Ethno-states are wrong and cause evils to be committed or allowed by the people of the ethno-state. This is a thing that is invariable and unacceptable. Nazi Germany was an ethno-state that had a government which committed evils and a people that allowed it to happen. Now, israel is doing the same. Yet Germany exists still today and has cast off the ethno-state completely. This is what I wish for israel. But I am not Muslim. I am atheist and of German and Irish ethnicity. As for ethnicity, jewishness has been uniquely and oddly conflated as a religion, ethnicity, and nationality. Which makes jewishness an identity ripe for fascist ideation. Also, dont be fooled: there has been countless "mixed" marriages, countless converts to judaism, and countless deconverted as well. There's entire communities of "Jewish" people, whether bynationalistic beliefs, religion, or blood that have nothing to do at all, no thread of connection, with the Semitic peoples that were cast out of the Levant by the babylonians. Now, believe me that it gives me no pleasure when I say, israel is committing a genocide and making many of the same mistakes and evils that we in Germany had nearly 100 years ago. To say you stand with israel at this point in history is an immoral and untenable position to hold. Akin to supporting Germany in 1933. Again, I want to support israel. But israel needs to make it easy to support. Ending the genocide, ending the occupation, ending the ethno-state, and reparations for the palestinians is the only path to peace and to acceptance worldwide, for israel. I apologize for my crass or rude first reply. It's just so galling when people, in my perception, voice support of an ongoing genocide. I hope the best for you and yours.
@@darrene.vonbraun4421 thank you for responding and for embracing Israel right to exist! Many Hamas followers keep with the slogan from the river to the sea! , but allow me to correct you, Israel is a Jewish state, correct, but not limited to Jewish people, as you know Israel live side by side with an Arab population of more that 2 millions who are flourishing , learning at universities, holding great jobs in Israel , and lately, emerged an Arab scientist being awarded for discovering a natural product to preserve foods, this is in Israel!!! For the most, Arab population is proud to be Israeli, the only democratic nation in the Middle East! Contrary to what you implied, there was never intermarriage , maybe few, before 1948, something that kept on for millennia is the Jewish longing to go back to the land of Israel, to the promise land: next year in Jerusalem “ was always a say in all Jewish tables for celebrations, this longing never ceased to be carry on from generation to generation! We are Semite, our language and DNA comes from the Middle East , from Israel, wherever the Jews moved, Babylon, Eastern Europe, Spain, Arab countries, Jews continue with their bible, their traditions, and so on, what does it matter how many Jews exactly married with non Jews? The point is that Jewish people remain being Jews and always longing to come back to their land Something to also mention how far our Jewishness is in illnesses, the medical world knows that certain cancer are common in. Ashkenazi Jews, etc.. Israel is not committing genocide, it is not a Jewish thing!!!! israel is after Hamas who wants to destroy Israel! Casualties of war are very very sad, but it was Israel who took care of Syrian civilians during their civil war, no Moslems came out to the street in protest against Syria, Yemen, Afganistán and more, no moslems countries protest against Iran to commit horror against its own people, I stand for Israel!!!!!! A democratic nation that wants peace with its neighbors, but Hamas has always jeopardize any peace attempt with their slogan from the river to the sea, confirming it by perpetrating the worst genocide indeed against all members of the kibbutzim’s There is so much more to say, but in summary, I would like genuine peace, like the one with Egypt, Jordan, the emirates, without violence, without radicalism, I would like Palestinians to teach love and not hatred to their kids, I would like Palestinians to prosper by having best schools and learn how to live side by side with Israelis, believe me , together we could create a great Middle East!
@@darrene.vonbraun4421 for some reason, My reply to you disappear and don’t understand why, but I am not going to write it again, was long, in short, - thank you for responding and for embracing Israel right to exist!Many of Hamas followers prefer the eternal slogan from the river to the sea - Israel is a Jewish state, you are correct on that! But lives side by side with an Arab population of more than 2 millions who have the same rights as Jewish people do, who goes to universities, hold important jobs in society and for the most, consider themselves proud to be Israelis , in fact a few days ago, an Arab scientist was awarded internationally for discovering a natural preservative for foods, do you see this success in other Moslem countries? - and contrary to what you have implied, Jewish people around the world held consistently remind the say: next year in Jerusalem, the longing to go back to the promised land never ceased to become a dream! We are Semite,our language and DNA are origin from the Middle East, from Israel! Whether the Jews moved to Babylon, to Northern Africa, to Eastern European countries, to Spain, France and Nordic countries, they all maintain the dream to come back, they all preserved the Torah, and Jewish traditions! We all eat the same Shabat meal, we all observe the shabat, some more than others, you also find Jewish people who are Jewish but not observants . What does it matter that some married with non Jews, the point is that Jews survived in millions in spite of the holocaust. - Israel is not committing genocide, Israel is after Hamas!!!! True, casualties of war are very very sad, but Israel is not perpetrating them intentionally, not like Hamas who committed the worst genocide on earth!!!! Atrocities against entire kibbutz population ! Don’t forget, that’s the genuine genocide that the whole world should have denounced ! The Moslem pollution around the world never protested against the radical regimes of Syria, Yemen, Afganistán , Iran , it took Israel to take care of Syrian civilians and treat them at the border after Assad atrocities committed to its own people. I STAND WITH ISRAEL!!!! the only democratic nation in the Middle East !!!, a nation that wants peace with its neighbors, but Hamas has always jeopardize any attempt to peace! That has been confirmed with the worst crime committed on October 7th - I would like a genuine peace! Like the one we have with Jordan, Egypt, emirates, and soon with Saudi Arabia! Without violence, without radicalism, I would live parents to teach their kids to live not to hate, I would like the day when Palestinians have best schools and prosper, and learn how to live side by side with Israelis, this would have change the face of the Middle East!
6:06 no they are from slavic region. And some from Iberian peninsula. So, ashkNAZi are slavic, not the bible people, even the bible tells they are frim a different father of Semitic nations. Genesis 10:2-3 ashkNAZi are the descendants of Gamor son of Japheth. The exile isn't true according to this fact, i say it is a fact because their DNA confirms that.. slavic european non Semitic. They aren't reaI. Fabricated.
I don't know, I see a very wise professor that is surrounded by a mob, with one in particular that keeps calling him a "Himar" which means a "Donkey" - like a curse word. Not so friendly, but I appreciate that he ignored it and was listening.
"I'm an American born in New York. My grandparents were born in Brooklyn. Great grandparents came from Russia, but if you keep tracing it back, eventually I go back to Spain, my family came through Spain ,.... So we are the indigenous people of that land!" WOW!!!
Israel State was never based on religion. When you read the full story, Zionism didn't sell as well, and then Herzl realized he needed a religious drawcard, and with that approach, Balfour gave them a portion of Palestine. Right from the start, they sent more people there than what they agreed to, they took as much land as they could in 1948- hence the name occupied Jerusalem, occupied West Bank- they occupied Palestinian land , they stole it, after killing 15 000 people and forcing 750 000 Palestinians into refugee camps. Israeli spits on Orthodox Jews, they stop Christians from going to church, whereas before they got there, Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in the same area and were peaceful and lots became friends
Balfour Declaration is argued as invalid, i saw this argued by Arab league presented at the international court of justice… the area of Palestine and state of israel was never legally given to zionists… israel is not legitimate.
Egypt wont let them in because they wont be allowed to return, this making them complicit in ethnic cleansing. Thats why. Also plenty of palestinians DO criticize those other countries but its disingenuous to bring that up as a whataboutism because theyred be no palestinian diaspora without Israel.
Did that Zionist dude just argue that it doesn't really mean anything to be a Jew in Israel or that being a Jew in Israel is all that matters ? No really , I don't get it .
I think in his screwy way he was saying you don't have to be a religious jew to be jewish, that you can even not believe in God and still be a jew because it's the " ethnicity" that matters to Israeli zionists, not being a religious jew
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Hey here is a question exactly why do people think Muhammad went over to Israel it was like the other 52 empires that came through to conquer the Jewish holy land . And why is there so much mention of Jewish history in Christianity and Islam because you both copied our religion atleast Christian’s give us some credit calling it Judea Christianity . Islam is all the way delusional and desperate to hold Jewish history hostage . That’s why the burial site of Abraham Sarah Jacob and Issac is in Palestinian control even though Islam believed Abraham to be buried in Mecca . And that’s why they cry settlers even though you people know damn well who’s history is under that ground . Oh and by the way just because you call it a genocide means nothing . If Israel came out with a list of 30,000 Israelis they claim Hamas killed overnight would you just take there word for it ?
Pls can you send me name of the young man debating with the zionist professor... that young man is so so brilliant and so calm... I really need to find him and follow whatever social media network he's on
Thank you for posting this dialogue !
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There are Palestinian Jews, too! We are all connected !
This professor is either very ignorant or willingly lying over and over.
The professor needed only to show his ID from a legitimate independent genealogical testing service proving his claim to Hebrew origin. Easy enough.
Here's a Fun Israel Fact: Genealogical testing to prove such origin is illegal in Israel. Were DNA evidence of any connection to any ancient Hebrews in Palestine
a requirement for citizenship, ninety percent of Israelis would be ejected right away. He demonstrates his ignorance, as well as his lack of veracity and conscience.
He’s lying. Most Zionists lie.
He is indoctrinated
There is no reason you can’t be both like this guy.
Everytine the mention of DNA confirmation should be made to modern israelis...this professor evades it by constantly flip flopping the issue..
You can tell this professor did not achieve his position because of his intelligence 🙄
Because is a zionists
Jews from all walks of life are open-minded about any topic on earth, but will instantly switch to the pre-programmed mode when it comes to their Jewishness.
😂😂😂 i was almost choked. You nailed it.
@CoolAce1-dv1pnnepotism.
@CoolAce1-dv1pnaffirmative action? Probably not. Good ol’ boys networks and family ties? Probably. He isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. You think George W Bush graduated college because of his “hard work?” This guy is not different.
My Great, Great Grandfather and Grandmother were Ashkenazi Jewish, their daughters and sons married outside the religion! I have zero rights to any land in the Middle East! End of story!
You don't want it, fine but you can't fault anyone that wants his ancestors land back especially when he went back and bought it but someone decides that he can't take the land that he bought?. Get over yourself.
@@winnersfootballtv5517 You have zero ancestral DNA in relation the the Middle East! So just stop! The land you speak of is not ours!
@@winnersfootballtv5517Know decent knowledgeable ppl believe anything you just commented. The lies are so tedious. Also ppl don’t seem to be very good at lying. Perhaps because ppl have just allowed them to get way with it for fear of being called anti. Those days are passed. When ppl show you who they are believe them.
@@faniarethas2716you need to get quite creative with wording. Also be proud because they usually do it when the truth is being said.
No one has "land rights" inherently because they are Jewish. Jews have lived there for thousands of years. The entire world gave them a tiny strip of land in the aftermath of the Holocaust. Go learn about Jewish history and antisemitism and you'll understand why Jews require the right to self-determination just like any other ethnic group...
My ancestors were Bohemian, and British Isles. I'm an American. I do not have the right to kick someone out of their homes . Because of my ancestors. End of story.
That is a good logic but remember, most of these zi-nists are from to begin with europe and then north africa and parts of the middle east. They're claim is a bloodline 2000 years ago which is non existant even if they were the jews from 2000 years ago. The only way they can prove it is by naming family lineage for 2000 years lol. Even DNA tests dont pinpoint to palestine, instead a broad middle east, eurasian, european and north african. Ashkenazi is straight up European and eurasian though by converts from Khazars
Only the "chosen people" are allowed to do that since JHW told them so. They are very special indeed.
@@talksmoke1190your ideology is a threat to civilization and international laws. congratulations for pushing us closer to ww3.
To top comment, :exactly!
If you are American you have kicked people out and pretty much annihilated the indigenous.
It’s ok for current day
Americans, Canadians,
Aussies,
New
Zealanders to do so, but got forbid the persecuted
Jewish do so in a landmass that is as small as the size of
Wales. Additionally, they want to revert to land that their ancestors were persecuted and ethnically cleansed from, not so for the European invaders, colonisers and imperialists in all of the above Countries.
Borders and nation states were created post
WW2,
Why is it that only
Israel is scrutinised to this degrees and no other post WW2 state?
Ahmad Yassine, founder of Hamas, was born near Ashkelon, also pushed with his family to Gaza by Israel. To refuse to see that 70% of Gazans came from the places where Israelis now live is to be blind. We cannot understand October 7th without knowing History. ~ Shlomo Sand (Jewish historian)
Actually
"The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty?" ~ Bertrand Russell
In listing the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948, Khaled al-Azm (Syrian Prime Minister) notes that
"Since 1948, it is we who have demanded the return of the refugees, while it is we who made them
leave. We brought disaster upon a million Arab refugees by inviting them and bringing pressure on
them to leave. We have accustomed them to begging...we have participated in lowering their morale
and social level...Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson and throwing stones
upon men, women and children...all this in the service of political purposes..."
-- Khaled el-Azm, Syrian prime minister after the 1948 War, in his 1972 memoirs, published in 1973.
"It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their
homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
-- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949
"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with
their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and
interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).
"The Arab Exodus …was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread
by the Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews. …For the flight and fall of the other villages it is
our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish
crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... By spreading rumors of
Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the
Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy."
-- The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953.
"Arabs still living in Israel recall being urged to evacuate Haifa by Arab military commanders who wanted
to bomb the city."
-- Newsweek, January 20, 1963
"The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in."
-- A refugee quoted in Al Difaa (Jordan) September 6, 1954
The tragedy of the non-Jewish people of Palestine (as some were Jewish), was that they did not take the opportunity to establish an independent entity, where they never before had such an entity, on land that was held by different conquering empires since the ancient Judean and Israelite kingdoms, because they could not accept and live with the Jews having ANY part of the land ... a land their ancestors originated from and on which there was always a Jewish presence since those ancient kingdoms ... and they allowed themselves to be pawns of other Arab and Muslim countries in their fight against Israel.
Ask yourself why Jordan and Egypt, who both ruled the West Bank and the Gaza Strip for 19 years, never handed over the land to the Palestinians to establish a homeland in, ah?
@@fassstar NONSENSE! Are you really claiming that Jews have a religious right to this land?
@@Baci302 not only are there no religious rights to any land, rather rights of nationalities/ethnicities, or groups, to live on a land (not to the land), where did you see me mention religious rights to the land? Judaism is not only a religion, it is also a nationality/ethnicity. Jews, as an ethnic group, have a right to live and self determine on the land due to their historical connection to it, and the fact that they have been living on it for the last 3000 years, and more. This does not mean that other non-Jewish groups do not have the right to live on the land as well. The difference is, that most Jews accept this and are willing to live side by side the other group peacefully (if the other group will be peaceful), but the vast majority of the other group is not willing to accept the right of the Jews to live and self determine on the land, and have rejected any peaceful coexistence, as long as it involves a self determined Jewish entity on ANY part of the land.
"their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state." ?
And how do you think that countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan came to be? You don't care how other (20 or so) Arab -muslim countries were "given" land but a jewish state on a tiny patch of desert with no oil...that's unacceptable?
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"Law and Ethics" Professor / Supports ethnic cleaning, collective punishment, and genocide.
ergo he exemplifies what to not do... almost like... scratch that.... exactly defines hmmm.... a hypocrite
His rabbi okay'd it..
his ethnically european jewish athiest rabbi.
How is it genocide if the army moves the civilians to security zones and lets Egypt, the United States and other countries bring in food and medical aid?
lol@@TalReu
That's not a professor he is a clown.
You are the real clown here 🤡🤡🤡
I can’t believe this guy is a professor he really does not know what he’s talking about
I could only listen to the 3:31 point for that exact reason.
What did he say wrong?
@@TalReuThese parroting morons won't be able to reply.
@@TalReu
When told that this conflict didn’t start on Oct07, he replied “that’s offensive!”
Hundreds of Gazan children have had buildings come down on their little heads. Hundreds of children have endured excruciating burn and broken bones pains before succumbing to their injuries. This man is more concerned about the 2 hostage children, still alive, being pulled out of their beds- his guess.
That’s what he said wrong.
@@nj1638 But how does the murderous terrorist attack by an Islamist jihadist terrorist organization have anything to do with the fact that you claim it didn't start before the seventh of October? You are just giving excuses to a terrorist organization that murdered everything it saw including dogs and kidnapped people.
Why should one person's pain come at the expense of another's pain? Why can't you feel sadness for the Israelis as well?
I think he is absolute denial , he doesn’t know that they are corrupt
He doesn't even know THERE NOT EVEN A RELIGION THERE A POLITICAL NATIONALISTS 😮
@@antoinette3828look up what moohamad is it says he was religious AND political
@@rubyring2461 hello, I'm referencing the professors understanding Zionist to be Jewish people who deserve a land of their own. Zionist is a political organization not a religion,
@@antoinette3828 yeah I kinda get that but I'm just pointing out that it's okay to want your land to be yours especially after being kicked out twice. There's a reason Zionist movement started and carrus on today because all these years later after going back people still hate on them for merely existing. If it wasn't for Islam no one would have a problem with the Jews (well they'll still be hated) but they wouldn't have to put up with the constant threat.
' The World's Most Documented Genocide In History . '
Just too bad the world isn't shown the documentation. Israel hardly lets journalists into gaza.
@CoolAce1-dv1pn actually a lot of experts have called it a genocide. But no matter what you want to call it it's definitely a tragedy and there's no need to minimize it. Sorry to pop your balloon.
The professor doesn’t answer the question just bring stories about other conflicts that have nothing to do with this conflict. Israel is committing war crimes.
"bring stories about other conflicts that have nothing to do with this conflict." yes, because oct. 7 is the reason why this conflict happens.
Rosen had his clock cleaned by the young man. Honestly embarrassing how lame he was and how inept his hasbara.
He thinks they bombed 35 hospitals by accident really like really really
And you think they bombed 35 hospitals 🤣
@@arimilo The photos and videos the Isnotraeli's themselves released is enough confirmation bud
Hamas is known to hide inside hospitals. Unfortunately they are no longer protected if used for military purposes...
the professor is living in a fantasy world, if he thinks that the IDF is not targeting hospital if you want to believe the professor will be lying to ourselves
Hmm....could it be that Hamas are hiding in tunnels under those hospitals?
@@lindahidalgo1804 No. And no one actually believes that
@@lindahidalgo1804Theres no real proof of that. They tried to create proof but it turned out to be a calendar
@@elaineklein2385Only Holocaust deniers like yourself in the Hitler youth wouldn't believe such things.
@@justaboredhousewife7804 You can't believe it or it will destroy your narrative of lies, which facilitate your Racist Nazi ideology of hating Jews.
This professor should definitely be kicked out of teaching, so mis guided
evil kingdom qatar.
Guy the same as any other open Nazi. He is openly advocating for permanently expelling Gazans into Egypt. The university should be ashamed of itself. If you wouldn’t allow someone goose stepping around and starting class with a Heil Hitler then you should not be employing this guy either!
this professor actually had the facts straight! The pro palastine "debator" simply knows how to use his mouth to articulate words, but there wasn't much power to his words!
@@cr-ei5jm lol when facts hurt your feelings, blame it on people having "power in their words" huh?
I am that guy jumping into a civil discussion to yell.
Haha. I know. Me too. Much respect to the young man for staying focussed.
😂😂😂
But I hated you in the argument... He's not making it easy for the guy in the left.😂
😂😂😂that’s me
With all due respect, being a fellow Muslim, it was not a good representation of Islam to call people donkeys, even if you disagree with them.
Hes funny “ya hmarr”😂
his words. "i don't BELIEVE" that. he ignores the fact.
The so called FACTS are twisted to fit either narrative. This shouldn't be about whether Israel should be there because it's common sense if you know anything and if you do want to believe that Palestinians have a bit of Jewish blood then that means Israel should rule over Gaza too but they pulled out to try and resolve things in 2005. This shouldn't even be happening but it is because Muslims hate that the Jew's are doing well and they want the middle East ISLAMIC until people see this situation for what it is this will NEVER be resolved. The Jews don't even want to admit that another religion would be so political and evil they need to stop thinking that people wouldn't do these things. But as usual people are going to go with the usual propaganda.
Love this young man!! Intelligent, articulate, emotionally balanced. God bless him 🙏🏼❤️
I think even Jewish are confused what really defines as Jews, I’ve been asking same questions, and they never were able to give me clear definition what defines Jewish. It’s like they want to recruit as many people as possible to make it a big club.
Honestly, to me all don’t matter, what matters to me is kindness and respect to each other, and call it a day!
Following Judaism is being a Jew. Living in new buildings built on the rubble of destroyed local homes is Satanism / Zionism
they're committing genocide on Palestinian based on the belief that Palestine belong to their ancestors 3000 years ago? 😮
no bro. The Jew answered you clearly, you are the one who is confused.
Judaism is a combination of ethnicity and religion. And we are not a missionary religion, we are not looking for new believers. In fact if you want to convert, the rabbis will dissuade you to see if your desire is sincere and true, Jewish conversion takes many years and is specifically designed to kick out all those who are not sincere.
@@hanna319 Judaism does not support murder of 15,000 children in Gaza.
@@hanna319 what about jews who became atheist or Muslim, are they still Jewish by their ethnicity?
Imagine being so confident and so incorrect at the same time... What is university teaching these kids?
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Thank you, Status Coup crew.
Great and respectful conversation and the proffesor was on point!
This professor is absolutely right.
Yes - but he's surrounded by a bunch of loony tunes & is demonstrably feeling nervous because he's being so outnumbered & attacked by people of all different ethnicities - none who are seemingly able to accept Jews as a people with a right to exist in their own land of their ancestral home. Most Palestinians are a fake bunch of Arabs, historically roaming tribes, many who arrived in Palestine around the same time as the Jews because they viewed Jews as a conduit to their own prosperity. This is not to deny there weren't Palestinian Arabs living in the lands beforehand, however, since 1967 Palestinian demography has been fraudulently increased out of all proportion because organisations like UNWRA who granted them uniquely a refugee status carried throughout successive generations which surrounding Arab & other hostile autocratic countries played on once they realised they weren't successful in annihilating Israel militarily.
"Take the worst thing you can about Hamas multiply it by a thousand times and it still will not meet the the Israeli repression and mass killing and dispossession of Palestinians." ~ Gabor Maté Holocaust Survivor
Omg! 10 seconds in and the “word salad” of the professor begins 🤦🏻♀️ What a BS artist
Reminds me of German academics in the 1930s. Uses his abilities for evil.
The ignorance of these children is horrifying.
“Since its establishment, Israel has engaged in brutal oppression of the rights of Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians are imprisoned, beaten and tortured; children are taken from their beds and beaten by soldiers who are armed to the teeth.”-Miko Peled.
When an arab loose an argument he always start to cuss
Nah that's more characteristic of zios
OK hasbara bot
Philistines and Palestinians have no connection whatsoever.
Too much pride
Bro the professor isnt even answering the question he keeps trying to go back to his point, which is irrelevant to the question being asked
judaism was not defined as ethnicity until the zionist took over . ethiopians jews. arab jews. european jews. multiple ethnicities
What the hell are you talking about? Judaism was defined as being determined by the mither and not by religious faith or actions for over 2000 years? This is a definition of an ethnicity, not that if a religion. So quit from the get go, as were many other religions in antiquity, Judaism was both a religion and an ethnicity at the same time (it's just that the definition of ethnicity is modern, so it might confuse you to think that what it defines also ce into being just in modern times).
@@fassstar By your silly definition all religions of the world would qualify as ethnicities as many people are the same religion as the parents and forefathers . You are aware no that anyone can convert into judaism-as I know many people who have so that is not the only way to become Jewish. Please educate yourself and read the learned writings of many orthodox rabbis that defy this zionist framing of judaism like Rabbi Shapiro or Dovid Woeiss based on a true historical lens. Ethnicity requires a shared culture - in what planet do ethiopian, eastern europe , arab jews ,spanish or portuguese jews all share a same culture ? Which is why there are terms for the different ethnic groups(Mizhrai, Sephardic, Ashkenazi etc) these Jews are a part of. And this groups don’t even practice their Judaism in the same way. Because all these diverse group of Jews don’t share a singular ethnic culture the Zionist project had to invent an Israeli identity , culture and language stealing much from Palestine. The concept of Jews having a racialized ethnicity came not only from Zionist but was also first used as a racist trope used to commit pogroms and victimize Jews as an other. In other words it’s base is very anti semitic as it is based on a deep hatred of those who practice Judaism.
@@fassstar You can convert to judaism like any religion. Many people are born of mothers from their same religion . And can trace multiple generations in the same religion but there is no muslim ,christian , hindu or buddhist ethnicity .Ethnicity is defined by having a shared culture. There is no shared culture among these different jewish groups which is why they are identified by their culture as Mizhari, Sephardic and Ashkenazi and there are differences even in their practice of Judaism .Israel had to invent a shared cultural identity and language much of it taken from Palestinian culture. Sadly zi- on- ist have embraced the racist ideas of the Europeans who pogromed them by defining Jewishness as a racialized religion.
@@QueenN-Jingalives
1. In all other religions, if you stop practicing the religion you are no longer considered part of that religion. In Judaism, if you stop practicing you are still considered a Jew. So no, Judaism is not like the other religions, as it is also an ethnicity.
2. Though they are differences between the cultures of the different Jewish diasporas ... as you would expect due to almost 2000 years of living between different non-Jewish cultures ... there is the same base to all these cultures - same base holidays, same base of prayers, shared languages (Hebrew and Aramaic used for scriptures, not as day to day languages) used etc.
3. Jews from different diasporas saw themselves part of the same people way before any race theories were invented. So no, you are wrong in that point as well.
@@fassstar
All your statements are demonstrably false.
1.Read any Orthodox Judaism-they does not recognize “secular” Jews as Jews if they don’t follow the laws of the Torah -who don’t practice. This false idea again was a creation of the Zi- on- ist who created Israel who were all not practicing and were upset they could not be accepted by racist Europeans despite their best efforts . And for your information you can claim Catholicism at anytime if you had a sacrament ( baptism, confirmation ) without practicing. It’s called a lapsed Catholic. There are many Catholics who extent of practice is making sure their children are baptized and that’s it.
2. The differences of culture, language, dress and traditions between the different Jewish population are the definition of different ethnicity. As you note 2000 years in many different areas with converts to your religion makes it impossible to maintain a singular ethnicity. Even if you accept your argument that every Jewish person has a Jewish mother who can trace their ancestry to Iraq region ( where Abraham is supposed to have originated from according to biblical scholars), basic math over 2000 years with intermarriage (nevermind conversion of the Jewish mother ) makes it very clear that is a very diluted DNA tree. You simply need to look at DNA testing between these different Jewish groups . Eastern European Jews share closer DNA with Christian Eastern European not with Ethiopian or Mizhrahi Jews. Ethiopian Jews share closer DNA with Ethiopian Christians.That is one reason Israel outlaws DNA testing- they fear Israelis knowing that reality which demonstrates there is no shared ancestry. This is very different from the Palestinians. If you DNA any Palestinians you will see how closely related they are.
3.All Jewish people do not accept the concept that in order to be part of the Jewish religion, Judaism, they must abandon their individual culture or their ethnicity. You need to read the many non-Zi - on- ist Jewish writings. Again before the false narrative of Zi - on- ist and racist Europeans , Jewish people were proud participants of the country cultures they participated in for 2000 years. It is profoundly sad that anyone Jewish promotes these racist tropes against their own religion.
What about prior to October 7th
rthe settler colony of Israel killed 483 Palestinians in the year 2023 before October 7th. So yes, what ABOUT October 7th?
The current war started following October 7..
@@hanna319 comments like yours are why nobody takes IsNotReal seriously. Hundreds of Palestinians have been getting killed and abused months before October 7th- but you only care once Jews start dying. It’s like talking to brick walls
@@Slayin101 October 7th is the reason why Israel are in Gaza.
@@youknowme1475 Israel’s constant killing and jailing of civilians while poisoning water enforcing an air, land and sea blockade, along with the persecution of Palestinians in Jerusalem is why October 7th happened. History doesn’t happen in a vacuum
a good question does need a good answer, I wonder who's the professor here!
A professor conveys knowledge and not ideology.
So excitement , love it. But in time of excitement we need to breath deeper
That young brother knows what he's talking about!
How did he become a professor?
🇮🇱🙏🇮🇱 Egypt should take in their own people. Half of the Gazan people are Egyptian & Jordanian. Why dont they hhelp their own people.
A prime example of children debating a grown up.
BigTonyRockets We saw a genocide apologist making propaganda replies to real questions. Stop supporting genocide ! !!!stop lying !!! No one believes a word any zionist says
im anti-zionist but i gotta admit, the Zionist professor knew his stuff and gets credit for coming out on top keeping his cool
The smugness of the Muslim is gross
Being Jewish is not a race or an ethnicity. Race and ethnicity are not biological entities.
So defensive and dismissive “oh I’m done with you” students more matur than this “professor “
This guy is an educator?
The educator get educated.
who's that barking dog on the Left
This professor did a really good job keeping his cool under a barrage of abuse. He put up with a lot of garbage from these rude, oblivious, and egotistical young hotshots. Good job, professor.
Today is day 254. I can’t believe how much worse things have gotten since day 150. The hate has erupted.
This is what people consider “civilization.” I call it atrocious.
My heart aches for the hostages and their families as this living nightmare continues.
The hardheartedness of these people is hard to take.
Lol I ticked a bunch of people off with this exact argument as rabbi Shapiro said Jewishness is a choice not an ethnicity
Nonsense. Did the Nazis believe Jewishness was a choice?
False claim. Judaism is ethnicity and religion connected. That's how it's defined.
If you were born a Jew you have no choice, only converts who choose to be Jews and then have to undergo conversion have a choice.
@@hanna319 it is a religious choice nothing more Zionists came up with the idea that they com make an ethnicity out of it but it is nothing more than a religious choice of your mother follows judaism so will you . That is why israelis are not allowed DNA tests
@@hanna319 good try though my great grandmother followed Judaism and but then her son married a Catholic so he was then a Catholic that's how that works but you have the satanic state of the Israeli fake state so we know you brainwashed
@@hanna319 wrong Zionists conflated Jewdaism with zionism it is not ethnic why they are not allowed DNA tests in Israel
There are 2 separate sides of "zionism" and both need to be understood. It is true that Theodore Herzl was not a religious man and his main goal was to establish a homeland for Jews where they could live in safety. HOWEVER, there,is also the fact that literally for thousands of years, long before the birth of Herzl and long before the birth of Islam, the Jews have been zionists; praying three times,a day to return to their homeland which is referred to as Zion, as Israel, as Judea throughout their daily prayers. This is not a movement that began with Theodore Herzl.
If it looks like 👍 a Duck ,and quacks like a Duck ,then it must be a Proffesor 😅
Lol, that second dude randomly yelling stuff every few seconds.
Yes definitely thanks for posting this dialogue.
Lol. Who is the guy that keeps popping out like Dan "Toasty" Forden from Mortal Kombat. "Whoopsie"
There is no test that shows Palestinians as being from the ancient Israelites. It shows them being from the Levant. That is no conclusive enough that they were from Jews. The Levant encompasses a lot of land that wasn’t ancient israel.
The Romans named the land Phillistine as an insult to the Jews because it was a people who went to war with Jews and took part of ancient Israel.
Palestinians come from the Canaanites. Canaanites got mixed with the Jews, then converted to Christianity, then to Islam.
@@musaabukhater7988 That’s hilarious. That’s why so many Palestinian last names show where they’re from.
@@harrynewhof3165 Why it’s hilarious? That is historically true that Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites. Also, DNA studies show that Palestinians are more Israelite than the Jews in Israel. Look at Israelis surnames their surnames sound European and have no connection with that land. Ashkenazis come from Khazaria.
@@musaabukhater7988 What’s the historical evidence of Cannanites existing
@@harrynewhof3165 When the Arab Muslims conquered Juresalem from the Romans, the natives were already there (Canaanites and the Israelities). The Arab Muslims got mixed with the Canaanites more than the Israelities. The Canaanites and the Israelities became Muslims. This proves that Palestinians are Semitic. They are the direct descendants of the Canaanites.
He just concerned about his people
The pro-Palestinian side has one big erroneous assumption, and that is that ethetnicity and DNA are the same.
From Britanica,
"Ethnicity refers to the identification of a group based on a perceived cultural distinctiveness that makes the group into a “people.” This distinctiveness is believed to be expressed in language, music, values, art, styles, literature, family life, religion, ritual, food,…"
Therefore, it is possible both to join an ethetnicity and to leave it, even if genetically you can trace some of your origin to it.
There is no doubt that some of the Palestinians originate from Jews who lived on the land in ancient times. Nevertheless, it does not automatically mean that they are still ethnically Jews. Moreover, others originate from non Jewish ancestors who either immigrated to the land during Helenistic and Roman rule over the land, or during later periods under the various Christian European Crusaders or Muslim conquerers of the land ... some as late as the early to mid 20th century.
BTW, all this is not to say that Palestinians do not have a right to live on the land and to self determination. They do, but as long as a large portion of them, currently the majority based on polls, will not accept the Jews rights to live on the land and to self determination as well ... contra to the pro-Palestinian claim, many do not accept Jewish history of the land and Jews rights to live and self determination on any part of it ... there will be no way to achieve this for both sides.
What about the hostages held by the IDF, many of which are children?
What about the Palestinian children in Israel prisons held under administrative arrest? Aren't they children as well, do their pain matter, or do you believe Pains is only "reserve" to Zionists?
U mean prisoners under administrative detention? Yeah its a fast path to detention, its controversial, but its not random people. Its cr!m!nals
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nice prof
There was no palestine....
Yes little children pulled out of there bed every night in raids from isrelainsomdiers over n over 3300 children killed over 8 years 4 year old 6 year olds
Intelegent preffoser against hysterical kid.
Zionism come from the word Zion , it is one more name for Jerusalem-and the land of Israel in the bible.
What about the Palestinian hostages?
I don’t care what religion or ethnicity you are, we all share one thing - HUMANITY, without it, all religion or ethnicity mean NOTHING!
He is supposed to be a professor, but he is not even curious when it comes to human suffering on the other side. He is a so called educated man that simply does not want to know.
this comment section is a dumpster fire. Incredible how far the propaganda and indoctrination has spread.
Zionism is like a swear word
The Palestinian is doing really well but the random yeller is ruining the conversation
Moronic - this guy wants to claim he is everyone a philistine descendent (came from Greece) and then a Jewish descendent (came from Judea) but never an Arab from hmm Arabia? So now Arabs are Jews not Arabian and Muslims are really Jews that were previously converted to Christianity. But towards the end he comments on the story that Mohammed brought Jewish families back to live as Jews in Jerusalem which is part of Judea.
Corrections:
-The nation of Israel was formulated on entering Israel - that nationhood is passed down on a maternal line only but the religion has a way to permit one to join that nation through conversion. The Nation is what inherited the land.
-Christianity was popularised in Rome; almost no Jews joined the sect originally!
-The world Zionism was not coined by Theodore Herzl and actually was coined well after Jews started moving back to Israel and after the 1st Aliyah which was larger secular Jews .
-The move back to Israel was initially more religious in the earlier in the 1800s and supported the religious communities already present in Safed, Jerusalem and Hebron.
All those who are against stealing identities are somehow OK with this nonsense?!
Ppl don't think they just want to follow their emotions.
Dialogue is good only when people leave their biases and preconceived beliefs at the door and keep an open mind to change their mind when facts and legit arguments are presented.
the Ḥamas minister of the interior , Fathi Ḥammad, slammed Egypt for not helping enough and that Gaza deserved more brotherly assistance from Egypt, saying that “half of the Palestinians are Egyptian and the other half are Saudis.” wow . kind of refutes their whole claim to the land
The fact that all these European refugee Israelis have no history in this land going back before 1947 proves they have no claim to anything and the current genocide will insure that Israel in the eyes of the UN and every other human right watch is officially a war criminal apartheid state the same as Hitlers Germany and will suffer the same fate.
So why the hell did you not stay there if that was the safest place for you, now it's called Occupied Territories of Palestine.
No such thing as Palestine
Thanks!
I appreciate that the Professor made a concerted effort to have a dialogue with students even though I think he is ill informed. But I do think it's important for these guys to keep talking so that they can see each other as human beings.
hes 1000% correct about yemen, where was all this outrage? fucking hypocrites
THERE WAS OUTRAGE, THE WORLD NEVER LISTENED. YOURE A HYPOCRITE YOU LIAR.
without lies Islam dies
The Palestinian bro. was right to point the special pleading over genetics 🧬
The whole war is hell. Argument kind of falls apart when only one side is dying by the thousands. .they neeed to remind these people that not a single Israeli civilian has died since October 7th. But almost 100 Palestinian children have died every day since that time.
What is the Ethnicity 🤔
Thank you professor, great debate! And I-stand for Israel!
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@@darrene.vonbraun4421 we can’t change histoire , Jewish People all over the world has Kept the Jewish tradition, has kept the Bible, Talmud, Guemara and nebiim, has avoided mix marriages, has preserve the dinim, all these was carry on for millennia !
you are moslem, you have your own identity, why the need to conquer our Jewish identity, aren’t you proud of yours? Your cause will be more serious if you adhere to what you are! Don’t change this, you need to be a proud moslem! And yes, Jesus was Jewish , not moslem, Moslem religion came six hundred after Jesus
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listen, mate.
I have very deep feelings of empathy and sympathy for the plight of Jewish people at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries. I think Israel is here to stay and that israel should not be destroyed. However, I am against the continued governance of israel as an ethno-state. Ethno-states are wrong and cause evils to be committed or allowed by the people of the ethno-state. This is a thing that is invariable and unacceptable. Nazi Germany was an ethno-state that had a government which committed evils and a people that allowed it to happen. Now, israel is doing the same. Yet Germany exists still today and has cast off the ethno-state completely. This is what I wish for israel.
But I am not Muslim. I am atheist and of German and Irish ethnicity. As for ethnicity, jewishness has been uniquely and oddly conflated as a religion, ethnicity, and nationality. Which makes jewishness an identity ripe for fascist ideation. Also, dont be fooled: there has been countless "mixed" marriages, countless converts to judaism, and countless deconverted as well. There's entire communities of "Jewish" people, whether bynationalistic beliefs, religion, or blood that have nothing to do at all, no thread of connection, with the Semitic peoples that were cast out of the Levant by the babylonians.
Now, believe me that it gives me no pleasure when I say, israel is committing a genocide and making many of the same mistakes and evils that we in Germany had nearly 100 years ago.
To say you stand with israel at this point in history is an immoral and untenable position to hold. Akin to supporting Germany in 1933.
Again, I want to support israel. But israel needs to make it easy to support. Ending the genocide, ending the occupation, ending the ethno-state, and reparations for the palestinians is the only path to peace and to acceptance worldwide, for israel.
I apologize for my crass or rude first reply. It's just so galling when people, in my perception, voice support of an ongoing genocide. I hope the best for you and yours.
@@darrene.vonbraun4421 thank you for responding and for embracing Israel right to exist! Many Hamas followers keep with the slogan from the river to the sea! , but allow me to correct you, Israel is a Jewish state, correct, but not limited to Jewish people, as you know Israel live side by side with an Arab population of more that 2 millions who are flourishing , learning at universities, holding great jobs in Israel , and lately, emerged an Arab scientist being awarded for discovering a natural product to preserve foods, this is in Israel!!! For the most, Arab population is proud to be Israeli, the only democratic nation in the Middle East!
Contrary to what you implied, there was never intermarriage , maybe few, before 1948, something that kept on for millennia is the Jewish longing to go back to the land of Israel, to the promise land: next year in Jerusalem “ was always a say in all Jewish tables for celebrations, this longing never ceased to be carry on from generation to generation! We are Semite, our language and DNA comes from the Middle East , from Israel, wherever the Jews moved, Babylon, Eastern Europe, Spain, Arab countries, Jews continue with their bible, their traditions, and so on, what does it matter how many Jews exactly married with non Jews? The point is that Jewish people remain being Jews and always longing to come back to their land
Something to also mention how far our Jewishness is in illnesses, the medical world knows that certain cancer are common in. Ashkenazi Jews, etc..
Israel is not committing genocide, it is not a Jewish thing!!!! israel is after Hamas who wants to destroy Israel! Casualties of war are very very sad, but it was Israel who took care of Syrian civilians during their civil war, no Moslems came out to the street in protest against Syria, Yemen, Afganistán and more, no moslems countries protest against Iran to commit horror against its own people,
I stand for Israel!!!!!! A democratic nation that wants peace with its neighbors, but Hamas has always jeopardize any peace attempt with their slogan from the river to the sea, confirming it by perpetrating the worst genocide indeed against all members of the kibbutzim’s
There is so much more to say, but in summary, I would like genuine peace, like the one with Egypt, Jordan, the emirates, without violence, without radicalism, I would like Palestinians to teach love and not hatred to their kids, I would like Palestinians to prosper by having best schools and learn how to live side by side with Israelis, believe me , together we could create a great Middle East!
@@darrene.vonbraun4421 for some reason, My reply to you disappear and don’t understand why, but I am not going to write it again, was long, in short,
- thank you for responding and for embracing Israel right to exist!Many of Hamas followers prefer the eternal slogan from the river to the sea
- Israel is a Jewish state, you are correct on that! But lives side by side with an Arab population of more than 2 millions who have the same rights as Jewish people do, who goes to universities, hold important jobs in society and for the most, consider themselves proud to be Israelis , in fact a few days ago, an Arab scientist was awarded internationally for discovering a natural preservative for foods, do you see this success in other Moslem countries?
- and contrary to what you have implied, Jewish people around the world held consistently remind the say: next year in Jerusalem, the longing to go back to the promised land never ceased to become a dream! We are Semite,our language and DNA are origin from the Middle East, from Israel! Whether the Jews moved to Babylon, to Northern Africa, to Eastern European countries, to Spain, France and Nordic countries, they all maintain the dream to come back, they all preserved the Torah, and Jewish traditions! We all eat the same Shabat meal, we all observe the shabat, some more than others, you also find Jewish people who are Jewish but not observants . What does it matter that some married with non Jews, the point is that Jews survived in millions in spite of the holocaust.
- Israel is not committing genocide, Israel is after Hamas!!!! True, casualties of war are very very sad, but Israel is not perpetrating them intentionally, not like Hamas who committed the worst genocide on earth!!!! Atrocities against entire kibbutz population ! Don’t forget, that’s the genuine genocide that the whole world should have denounced ! The Moslem pollution around the world never protested against the radical regimes of Syria, Yemen, Afganistán , Iran , it took Israel to take care of Syrian civilians and treat them at the border after Assad atrocities committed to its own people.
I STAND WITH ISRAEL!!!! the only democratic nation in the Middle East !!!, a nation that wants peace with its neighbors, but Hamas has always jeopardize any attempt to peace! That has been confirmed with the worst crime committed on October 7th
- I would like a genuine peace! Like the one we have with Jordan, Egypt, emirates, and soon with Saudi Arabia! Without violence, without radicalism, I would live parents to teach their kids to live not to hate, I would like the day when Palestinians have best schools and prosper, and learn how to live side by side with Israelis, this would have change the face of the Middle East!
6:06 no they are from slavic region. And some from Iberian peninsula.
So, ashkNAZi are slavic, not the bible people, even the bible tells they are frim a different father of Semitic nations.
Genesis 10:2-3 ashkNAZi are the descendants of Gamor son of Japheth.
The exile isn't true according to this fact, i say it is a fact because their DNA confirms that.. slavic european non Semitic.
They aren't reaI. Fabricated.
Palestinians have the same DNA as the people of Judea
then why is it a problem that Israel exist if they are the same?
I don't know, I see a very wise professor that is surrounded by a mob, with one in particular that keeps calling him a "Himar" which means a "Donkey" - like a curse word.
Not so friendly, but I appreciate that he ignored it and was listening.
That is not a wise professor, if you think that’s wise idk what to tell you bro.
@@esma1161 I'd start with "why not", but if that's too difficult for you I don't know what to tell you bro.
They don't want to know the truth, thats the problem
"I'm an American born in New York. My grandparents were born in Brooklyn. Great grandparents came from Russia, but if you keep tracing it back, eventually I go back to Spain, my family came through Spain ,.... So we are the indigenous people of that land!" WOW!!!
When people say war is hell,
They are so disgusting.
Israel State was never based on religion. When you read the full story, Zionism didn't sell as well, and then Herzl realized he needed a religious drawcard, and with that approach, Balfour gave them a portion of Palestine. Right from the start, they sent more people there than what they agreed to, they took as much land as they could in 1948- hence the name occupied Jerusalem, occupied West Bank- they occupied Palestinian land , they stole it, after killing 15 000 people and forcing 750 000 Palestinians into refugee camps. Israeli spits on Orthodox Jews, they stop Christians from going to church, whereas before they got there, Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in the same area and were peaceful and lots became friends
Balfour Declaration is argued as invalid, i saw this argued by Arab league presented at the international court of justice… the area of Palestine and state of israel was never legally given to zionists… israel is not legitimate.
When Putin removed children from the war zone he was accused of kidnapping!
Egypt wont let them in because they wont be allowed to return, this making them complicit in ethnic cleansing. Thats why. Also plenty of palestinians DO criticize those other countries but its disingenuous to bring that up as a whataboutism because theyred be no palestinian diaspora without Israel.
Can't stand these people, can't stand their lies. Free Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you professor for taking on these bullies. Notice how they try to shut you down and don't give you a chance to speak and slant their discussion.
Jews came from Judea ❤ ✡
Did that Zionist dude just argue that it doesn't really mean anything to be a Jew in Israel or that being a Jew in Israel is all that matters ? No really , I don't get it .
I think in his screwy way he was saying you don't have to be a religious jew to be jewish, that you can even not believe in God and still be a jew because it's the " ethnicity" that matters to Israeli zionists, not being a religious jew
Anyone else bothered by the guy on the far left who keeps screaming pro Palestinian things while the other 2 are having an adult conversation?