Digital reverb for acoustic music should be believable, appropriate, and integrated
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- There's a temptation with reverb to try and turn a small recording space into a huge concert hall or auditorium. But it doesn't always work out well. This example is of a small choir, in a small studio, with a HUGE reverb. Check out the Audio Masterclass Music Production and Sound Engineering Course at bit.ly/3W3tpKo
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0:00 Introduction
0:45 Handel's Hallelujah Chorus
1:06 What's good about this clip?
1:25 CAUTION: Other people's opinions may differ
1:34 Listen again
1:43 Why reverb should be believable, apropriate, and integrated
2:43 The low notes of the organ
3:29 The huge disconnect between the direct sound and the reverberation
4:20 It's a real organ!
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Oh, I think I get it. I do believe it's fine to break one of those three rules in the interest of making the final product closer to how you envision it, but breaking more than one is asking for a headache, or (even worse) a substandard result.
I recently fiddled with several digital plate and room reverb plugins recording acoustic guitar in a small space; and i share your opinion. I actually can see myself using no digital reverb at all in this scenario.
Awesome and I totally agree with you David. Just like you said, I don't want to sound disrespectful and it is also my very own humble opinion that what I see and hear on the video does not show any coherence in terms of space. There is even a small section on which the reverberation sounds totally annoying and distracting from what should really take our attention, the performance!
Hi.
I agree and I could instantly hear the low portion of the reverb, sounded dense and muddled with no real clarity. Too many early reflections and feedback repeats?
I'll probably stick with simply "too much". If this is a convolution reverb, then if it's accurate then any early reflections are a property of the sampled space. If it's algorithmic, then yes it is easily possible to dial in an inappropriate proportion of early reflections, and it's also often worth listening closely to the reverb tail for any unnaturalness. DM
The organ is digital, which means it likely has pre-programmed reverb. So they're adding reverb on top of reverb.
+1
I admire a person who knows how to be concise. DM
Hate to burst your bubble, but that was a digital organ and not the real thing. It was obvious from the sound. That's also likely why the reverb is so obvious on the organ. Modern digital organs have added reverb built into their programming as they usually go into less than ideal acoustic spaces.
My bubble is fine, thank you for your concern. Whether or not this is a digital organ, there's too much reverb. And I'd guess that this is a box organ with real pipes blowing air, just like you. DM
@@AudioMasterclass hello, an organist here. i thought it was digital too until you showed the intro at the end! It's definitely a real chamber organ (and quite a big one) - thanks for noticing. I was impressed that they persuaded the Andrew Marr Show to hire it in ... :)
Thank you for your confirmation. I just wish I could get to have a go on it. DM
The reverb is way too much for such a small space comparatively.