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Something is just off about this. 😒 (I couldn’t watch past her throwing him under the bus about “conspiracy theories”) She knows what’s happening here. I don’t find it cute at all.
This is a woman who is So Done, but has to do what is best for her children. And I respect all the efforts Stephen's putting into improving his life. It's beautiful that you both are able and willing to go through this with us all watching, but I get that it helps pay those mortgages at the same time. Just wow! Relatable and rare, GENUINE content.
He didn't just "relapse" - he let all the demons he'd given up fighting against - by stopping his meds, not going to meetings, not seeing a therapist regularly - completely take over to the point that he was so out of control, he tried to kill himself. He's had a history of going dark and twisty during their relationship, but this last time, Laura feared for him, for herself, and for the kids, so she called the police and Stephen was admitted to the hospital. Laura's relapses occurred before they were married and became parents. Stephen's relapse(s) became more frequent after they married and had children. It's a heartbreaking choice to separate from someone you love - but, sometimes, you have to put your safety and your children's safety first.
Whether they get back together or not, the way they work together to co-parent and still respect each other is so admirable. Good for them. I hope they find what works for them as far as their relationship.
I very much agree. I think that they show a lot of care and concern for one another - which, honestly, is probably more normal in a separation than it's made out to be (drama sells, after all). I do think it's obvious that they are in different places in their own healing and I hope that, in the end, they both find a lot of satisfaction in those journeys. It is clear that they will do the best they can by their children - which is so very important.
Steven basically relapsed and had a breakdown and it lead to Laura realizing that there was alot of issues they needed to work individually so she decided to step away to make a better life for the kids and themselves. He is ready to get back together but she still leary which is understandable. That's the gist.
❤️❤️❤️ You both have been so open and vulnerable during this whole time. Thank you for inviting us in.... Even when you didn't have to. We love you, and we're rooting for both of you ❤️
This made me so sad 😢 Stephen is trying so hard to win Laura back but Laura has clearly reached a place that she might not be able to come back from. I’m sure she was telling him over and over again before they separated and he chose not to listen. It looks like she resents him now. It’s so sad though. I hope they both find happiness.
We know so little about what truly happened with them. What was said and done behind closed doors. The hurtful words that were said. She has her guard up, rightly so. Living with an addict with a plethora of other mental health issues is hard, fucking hard.
I just wanted to say, thank you for discussing the lack of male connection for Dad’s, I was recently involved in a deck collapse that left me with 3rd degree burns over 15% of my body, my amazing husband has spent 5 months taking care of my medical needs, working his job and taking over my stay at home mom job, I noticed how run down he was and I felt like he needed some connections which he didn’t have outside of me, he started playing a sport he loved at a local rec center and in just 1 week of making those male connections his mood, energy and love of life has done a 180, there is not enough focus on the Dad’s in our life having that male support and they need it too
I am going through chemo and my husband takes care of me and it’s not always pretty . He does his wing Chung lessons once a wk and he lifts weights every morning . He plays his drums. I’m getting my last chemo treatment today yay!
I completely respect Laura's attitude to separate...then possibly divorce. Sometimes things just don't work out...and there's a perfectly good reason for that. Sometimes enough is just enough, and it's time to move on. Good on her for realizing that.
I am only commenting this because I haven't seen anyone else say it yet: Laura, you should be proud of yourself for setting your boundaries and continuing to respect them. You may or may not feel pressure from Stephen about getting back together, but you are doing a hell of a job respecting yourself and your limits (even when it comes to the language you choose when discussing your relationship). That deserves to be celebrated.
i thinks she is a fake,though. got the house on Steven s back, now she resides there..and not there for him when he needed it. . sad for the kids, but Stephen is a gentleman, deserves someone wayy better. would like to see laura,s bounderies if she had to make her own living,pay rent .
@@ottoottololla4410 ... You do know Laura's channel was the primary money maker by far since Stephen had quit working on films. I can promise you she is making her own living and probably footed the vast majority of the home. And even if she didn't, nobody is obligated to be in a relationship with someone because they paid for something.
@@susanthomas4350 he was verbally abusing her for months before this and constantly pushing her away. Then he went and had a huge blowout almost unaliving himself and you want her to get on the ground and beg for him to come back to her?! Nah
She’s turned her heart off to him. When your partner tells you they’re going to kill themselves- it really effects your mind and heart. My ex completed the threat on my birthday. Devastated me. Completely shattered me. She’s protecting her heart. It may seem like she’s being cold to him, but she’s in defense mode. It’s not poor Steven..it’s poor Laura because her heart is broken too.
I lost my fiancé due to an accident that was his own doing, though it may not be similar I know the exact feeling you’re talking about. She’s doing the right thing for her happiness.
Wait a second Simply Shannon, flip the scenario. If you went to your husband and said, "I feel awful, I am having suicidal thoughts" What you're saying above is that your husband would be affected in the heart and mind. Then if you did complete the threat as you said. He would be devastated and shattered. So... if a partner, male or female goes to another and asks for help, you should help each other. The fact you think your partner reaching out for support and help is victimization of you! Is insane to me. Turned off her heart to protect herself, Did her heart not love him and want to love and help him. You think walking away from someone you love because they may break your heart is mad.
They are going to be ok! Together or not… their chemistry is beautiful. Best friends, coparents, a couple… what ever it is. They will be ok! I wish them the best!!! No matter what!
Oh honey. I can see your light is dim. Everyone saying how sorry they feel for him, but I recognize your body language, your tone, the look in your eyes. You're tired, heartbroken. Yet you keep pushing through to start with us. You are literally amazing Laura. Don't let the light go out. I let mine go out and now I don't know how to get it back.
Completely agree. I hope she knows better than to feel guilty by him and the public, and I hope she knows better than to feel responsible for his sobriety because its not hers to carry. Steven is a narcissist, she would be very smart to never get back together with him again.
Okay don’t pitty her and don’t attack her ex husband. Your situation may not be hers. She actually is trying to heal and keep him in her life as co parent.
I can’t help but feel really sad for Stephen. I feel like he’s such an amazing person- & he’s so great with his children. I know we only get to see a little of your lives but I can’t help but feel like he just hit a rough patch..like we all do when we struggle with mental illness& addiction. Whether or not he and Laura can work it out..I genuinely hope Stephen works it out with himself & can eventually find someone to share his life with. He has so much love to give- I can tell. I wish you both the absolute best. I also applaud Stephen for even doing this- I don’t think I could have done this without suffering consequences mentally. To sit there with my ex who I am still madly in love with would be extremely hard…he’s all smiling but I know he’s hurting during this interview.
It makes me really sad! I totally agree! She’s way to cruel to do this to him. Hopefully her son Alfie finds someone more kind and understanding of his autism symptoms when he marries one day. I’m sure Laura won’t want to see a woman leave her own son for having a melt down and becoming overwhelmed. No one is perfect and she isn’t either. She clearly has that upper hand and poor Stephen.
AE totally agree. I'm not so sure he should've done this podcast. Might set him back a bit. I wish the best for Stephen. He's a good man & will find love again, w/ someone who understands him & will stay by his side through thick & thin. Stardom almost always causes marital problems
OK reading the comments on this comment, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who picked up on this. It's heartbreaking to see Stephen be beyond thrilled to even be in the same room with her and Laura being...idk, giving off kind of an angry, defensive vibe. And I get it because that's the way some people protect themselves after being really hurt. It seems like that guard up that she mentioned makes her look cold and standoffish and in contrast he's glowing with pure joy at being in her presence. It looks bad but I've been in a similar situation and she needs to do what she needs to do to protect herself until she makes the terrifying step of trusting again. It's sad and hard to see and makes her look very unsympathetic and we all know Laura. She's not cruel and she wouldn't have this behavior if she didn't feel like she needs it right now. His pain is very public, we've only seen snippets of hers. I can't villainize her as much as I want her to be different with him right now but I did see it too and I'm glad I'm not the only one because I felt like I possibly imagined it. Trying to be supportive of both and on the side of everyone being truly happy, whatever that looks like in the end.
"I want you back" Those words hurt me and hes not even my husband. Steven, you almost took that option away forever. I understand that you are getting better. And coparenting is going as well as it can. But on lauras end, How could she say the same to you, If you were gone permanently. Maybe one day you will get back together. Until then, I hope your actions show what you say... Love to you both❤
@@katjaxxx7353 hard to watch, she talks to him like he’s stupid or something…I dunno what this interview was all about but I’m a little baffled by the “wow you guys have such great chemistry” comments because Laura was definitely cold in this one.
Poor guy, she is done and has left the building. He just hasn’t accepted it yet. Hopefully they both find their new paths to happiness and maintain their parental connections ❤
It could change, she's experiencing the freedom she hasn't had in sooo sooo long. I'm sure she has tried making it work for so long she's just mentally, emotionally and physically tapped out at the moment. She needs to live her life and re find herself. They could possibly get back together a year from now but if they don't, that's ok too.
I would not say “poor guy” just because he is wearing his feelings on his sleeve more than she is. While I agree that Laura seems very done, and is working very hard to walk on eggshells without breaking any at this point, the carton’s already been dumped on the floor. I commend Laura’s focusing on co-parenting and can’t imagine how hard it is for her to work with him/coparent with him, and not simultaneously enable him.
I can't believe so many people are diagnosing their entire relationship based on one podcast. Some saying they are in love, others saying there's nothing there anymore. How ridiculous. We don't know how they feel and have no right saying any of this. Only they know how they feel and I would love to see them back together because they had so much love and compassion for each other but either way I just wish them both the best.
I don't think anyone's crazy, I think it's quite clear that Laura is speaking of their relationship as past tense and Stephen is the only one who doesn't know that they're over. She needs to be direct and tell him so he can mourn the actual loss of their relationship and begin really healing from it. It's kind of....wrong not to tell him.
Stephen has repeatedly asked for peoples opinions….he speaks his truth and so will other people. It can’t be helped if what is said is not what he wants to hear. If so….maybe living his separation via a public forum is a mistake. I too wish they both find a peaceful and mutually acceptable answer to this sad situation.
We all need to remember the last 6-12 months we’re hard on Laura. Does she want to go through that again? I think she still loves Stephen but has a lot to work through. Stephen wants things to go back to normal. Laura’s normal changed. Her guard is up. His isn’t.
I am so glad that Steven seems to be doing better. I'm glad that Laura is not giving in to his wanting to get back together. The work they are both doing on themselves is too important. If they are meant to come back together they will when the time is right.
If his aim is to get back with her, he's doing everything wrong. On his channel he comes across inconsistent, insecure , unsure and constantly seeking approval. None of which is attractive or convincing that he won't go into the spiral that's brought them to this point.
Steven seems to have that nervous laugh that reminds me of me when I’m around a loved one has been emotionally distant with me and I’m trying to reconcile 😢
I feel bad for Steven for some reason . He’s clearly head over hills . Overly animated , trying to get through the interview. Of course I don’t live with them and don’t know all of the dynamics of the relationship. So don’t come for me a get that the videos they both share are just a snippet of real life .
You feel bad for him because Laura is making fun of him and being low key annoyed with him. She should really take him back. He’s a sweet man, who just had a troubled issue, and he’s working on himself. It’s not like he beat her. Shit
yes but it can lead to dependence since someone who loves you will do anything with you and it makes it easy to depend on them. Which is can lead to codependency. Just wanted to add my view point since I am trying to get out of my codependency, I have kids and I'm autistic (currently being diagnosed). I think its ok to be cautious and to explore freedoms and the thrill that it gives.
Just going to say this, if he stood by her and supported her during 3+ relapses, she calls herself "crazy" at the time. it's a bit crappy she left him during his hard time. That doesn't seem quite fair. The way she spoke to him and made fun of him was shitty. If I dressed up and tried to look nice for my husband, even if we are separated, and he instead insulted and made fun of me, I'd have some mental health issues also. Got a glimps into their dynamic and I'm not surprised Stephen has self esteem issues.
Also the snide claiming of their house as hers alone and that stuff about building a 'brand'. Isn't that what you do Laura? Both of you make money off being recovering addicts and parents. What does it need to be pointed out for him specifically? I also didn't feel great about how she imitated what he said and his accent.
@@Jemini4228 yeah she was incredibly disrespectful. Not going to lie, she reminds me of a narcissistic ex I once had. The way she treated him in that podcast was deplorable, and I usually love both her and Stephen. But the way she behaved yesterday was a very very bad look.
I listened to the podcast, cried during that 20 something second deafening pause right along with both of you. Stephen take it day by day, stay present, trust has been broken, but the love for you from Laura is there... don't push, heal.. I'm so proud of both of you. I'm nobody, but I'm invested, lol. You 2 are 2 of my fave people and help me daily to stay focused, present and SOBER!!
I feel like Stephen is at a disadvantage in terms of social support. Laura has her family and childhood friends around her whereas he is a British immigrant living thousands of miles from his own family and roots. That's got to play a part in mental health.
L: - when Stephen comes visit me at my home S: - when i come home L: - when he visits me at my home Man, did i feel his pain.... This podcast was so painfully awkward to watch. Laura is so over him. He was so nervous, his laugh is not a joyful laughter full of love and hope...He might still love her, i give you that, but it would be better for him to build his life elsewhere, cause Laura won't take him back. I wish them both lots of good energy and harmony and i hope they find their strength and joy.
Stephen, you absolutely radiate light when you look at Laura. I haven't seen you this truly animated in a long, long time. Laura your comedic talent shines with Stephen. I'm praying for your family.
I think they both still have a lot of healing. 10yrs together and recovering addiction then a tragedy makes you change your paths. It doesn't mean they won't realign. I think they are best friends deep inside and this is just hard. It would be hard for anyone in private or public. I wish them both well wherever they land.
As someone who has been hurt by her husband over and over and keeps taking him back, your body language feels very relatable to me. Protecting you and your kids well being is instinctual and you shouldn't question your instincts to do whatever you need to do. Every time I separated from my husband, I floated back on his every promise and didn't wait to actually see him prove anything. I regret that almost every day. The pain of being hurt again was almost unbearable.
Was your partner on the autistic spectrum ? Mine is , so I’m curious . I’m ADHD and the dynamic is quite different than , neurotypical couples. I’m sorry that you had such a difficult time . I don’t feel sorry for Stephen here . I think that he’s definitely expressing adoration ( who can blame him ) I think that their willingness to do this, speaks volumes, regarding how much they actually do care about each other. I actually see two people who have had a bloody hard year / lockdown . That are doing there very best to heal . Anyways sending you and them blessings 🙏
That was way too niche. I thought it was bullying. Sitting there talking About the guest as a ''third person." SHe oughta go get couselling TOO and redo the steps especially the audit. Her addiction needs checking - where does acting END - whenis OFF STAGE?
Yet here she is exploiting him as honestly who else would go on her podcast? Most people have no idea who she is! She’s far to big for her boots. Stop trying to make Stephen out to be the bad guy. He has a mental illness. Laura is not perfect. If anything she comes across the narcissist. Obsessed with ‘being famous’ with very little talent. I’m not surprised Stephen became seriously depressed. She uses Stephen for content all the time. She has nothing to give without him.
Stephen: "...when I come home..." Laura: (correcting him) "...when you come visit me at MY home..." I don't understand why Laura would intentionally say something so cruel. Did Stephen not help pay for the new house? Didn't he spend countless days (months!) following/overseeing and sorting out all the problems with the renovations of the new home? Is his name not on the deed for some reason? They are still married, so I don't understand why she thinks their house is no longer theirs, but hers only. That comment was unnecessarily cruel. And unfair, in my opinion.
At first, my heart went out for Stephen because like everyone said, he clearly adores his family and seems to understand what it means to be a good father and a family man. But listening to Laura talk about his behavior towards her while he was struggling helps put things in perspective. Do I want Laura to just be like “Yes! Come home, Stephen!!”? Absolutely! But at the same time he hurt her so deeply for so long. Because of his struggles, his behaviors made her feel small, diminished, unworthy, and unloved. Stephen is 100% trying, no doubt about that, but he’s not perfect, so right now, I’m sure that anytime he displays behaviors remotely close to his previous behaviors it brings Laura back to all those times she was hurt. I think in addition to understanding what makes a good father, it’s important for Stephen to understand and learn how to be and what it means to be a good husband to Laura. Whatever happens, I genuinely wish happiness for the both of them 💕💕
I just love the both of you, separately and together. The hopeless romantic in me wants you and Stephen to work through this and get back together, you have beautiful synergy together. The realist in me knows that I haven't walked in either of your shoes and only the two of you know what's best for each of you. I pray for your wellness, your healing, and your peace, always. Thank you to both you and Stephen for sharing your vulnerability with us. I will try to find the podcast on spotify to listen to the rest. Oh, and I did all the things! ♡
I actually love y’all together but I’m obsessed with this self discovery journey you’re on! I don’t blame you at all for wanting to continue to grow rather than risk getting stuck in the same cycle again. Hope whatever happens, y’all both keep pushing yourselves as individuals.
Watched the autism expert video. All the answers to the problems are there. Stephen ended up getting the meltdown the doctor warned about. Think Stephen completely got the "bill"for all those years undiagnosed and without understanding the condition. Getting triggered by watching his son relive his own trauma. I think he almost had to have this meltdown in order to restart... It is obvious the two of you really love each other and belong together. Hope you won't divorce and quit even when that feels easier. It's the pressure that makes the diamond. Don't quit.
oh gosh! I hate watching this... if I can as politely as possible ask you guys not to do this again, until you know where you Both stand and know what you want. In MY eyes this is not a fair situation. for me, someone get's across an a-hole and the other one sweet. I don't wish that on either of you. ❤
If this is actually real then I feel bad for Steven because she is cold to him and you can see she doesn’t want him. I could not even imagine my girl treating my that way. Why are they sitting so far apart? Truly sad!
I kind of understand Laura for beeing so cold towards him.. he litterally started his own chanel from scratch based on HER and their familly! She is pissed that he kinda uses her to create content and it s crystal clear!
@@ΧρύσαΝάσση I never thought of that yeah you never. I said the same thing when he started first posting those videos. Something seems off about the whole situation
Stephen seems so nervous which makes it so cute because it shows how much he still loves her. Laura seems like she's just going through the motions and has her guard up as to not confuse him into thinking they are getting back together.
The way Laura talks to Stephen makes me feel really sad. I don’t even know why. I guess I sense pain as an empath and I’m just so sad for the situation. I hope they get a happy ending!
Everyone says Laura should be nicer , Stephen loves her. Etc etc But. You know what happens. Each adult makes choices about their own lives. Laura is allowed to move on. Stephen doesn’t have to move on but he has to respect her choices. Every relationship that ends is because someone has moved on and the other hasn’t.
You two are putting yourselves out here in public to watch this mess...We can all see he's desperate for you, but you seem to come across as not feeling him anymore..You need to let him know one way or the other, cos it's a car crash to watch tbh. Best of luck to you both.
Wow just wow as this podcast goes on I really don't want to call anybody out but seriously has changed my feelings about Laura because it's like she is showing a different side of her it's not all Steven's fault and he is openly admitted his mistakes but like he said and also watching and seeing the interaction here Laura isn't admitting to certain things herself but I love both of them it just sucks to see this
I agree! She's giving me this vibe that she's trying to make herself feel "above" Stephen by making mean jokes at his expense (eyebrows, you're the "big" trash, etc, you're building work that's "not dependent on me"). Ick.
Laura, it’s very brave for you and Stephen to sit and do this podcast. I’m gonna hop over to listen in full. It’s hard for people for whom this is so new and raw to do. ❤
It is so interesting watching the two of you, strangers as of right now, you are both evolving independently and its wonderful to see but the love in your eyes for each other wether romantic or not is evident. Keep moving forward to better yourselves and focus on what’s important to each of you, no matter the outcome.
The five things I am grateful for: 1. Being alive and having a roof over my head. 2. Listening to you talk on your channel (your channel has helped me through a lot of rough patches) 3. My dogs
First time i found out about you was a FB video; you were so pretty but so goofy & funny. I never saw a pretty woman act that way around her partner & not be embarrassed. I could never be myself w/my exhusband, nor did we hang out w/other couples like that. I saw Stephen get more involved in your videos, & y'all became my favorite couple. I learned a lot from y'all. I was shocked that y'all survived addictions and were able to be so confident and vulnerable. I really did learn a lot from y'all. So grateful for y'all. Partnership. Teamwork. Then i saw y'all were separated. This is funny stupid, but it hit me harder than anything I've been through, including my divorce, which hurt like hell. I guess y'all already have the friendship and communication going, and the best co parentingI've ever seen, but i hope that y'all can work it out, slowly i guess, but eventually. I wish y'all were characters in a novel that has a happy ending. I'm proud of y'all either way.
It's exactly what Laura admits to, she has a guard up- most likely rightfully so. And Stephen is smitten and high energy because he is a man determined to win his family back. I hope they get through this stronger individually and more in love in the end ❤️
I was so overwhemled when I watched this - almost as if I was sitting across from my ex-husband. There is a tangible feeling here - you can see it in your eyes, in your smile, that guarded, nervous, "don't come too close to my heart please" feeling. I am so sorry. Sometimes, there are things you don't have to say, because we know. There is a massive community of women who KNOW without words, those feelings, that anxiety, that fear - we stand together in silence I feel, because really, to force our truth into the world is futile. We know it. We lived it. We survived it. And we are here xx
My husband went crazy 7 years ago and had a midlife crisis. He cheated on me. But we decided to give it another go. It was hard at first. But he's put in the effort. Our relationship now is stronger then its ever been. It doesn't happen for everyone though. It's got to be give and take and work on both parties part. I wish you both well. 💕
Great interview! I'd love to see you interview Tiffany Jenkins from Juggling the Jenkins. She is really funny and also battled addiction and wrote a book about it. Her sober Anniversary is this month!
I feel like Stephen has to walk on eggshells around her. That will do nothing for his healing and getting better for his family. I get it we dont know the full story and she went through a lot to but these two are clearly on different paths and Laura needs to lay it out for him she doesnt see a future with him.
I swear I could've recorded these. My husband and I went thru the exact same thing. Codependency. Mental health issues. Both of us completely lost ourselves. Separated 6 mos refocused on ourselves, our faith & our mental health. Our marriage & family life has never been better.
Yay, I'm so glad for you! Hope the same happens for them. They are funnier together. Like: Burns & Allen, Wilma & Fred, martin & lewis, Abbott & Costello 😊
There are definitely 2 different kinds of energy here. She looks and sounds very done. The way certain things are worded from her just seem a bit heartless. Stephen is really trying his best to be upbeat. Hope the best for them.
The extremely privileged yt male thing isn't cute. It's disappointing hearing him say he "doesn't care" about politics. My existence is political. It must be nice.
Stephen is adorable. How wonderful that he has taken so much effort to work on himself and also to impress you. I love this!! I wish there were more men like him! Great interview Laura! ❤️
I feel like some people don't understand that just because someone loves you, doesn't mean you have to love them back. They can treat you the best, they may not be at all a bad person, but not right for you. Basically, don't force a relationship to happen for anyone. Do what you feel is right.
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting what it must have actually been like for Laura to be in a situation for 6-12 months or whatever she said where your husband is totally checked out, disinterested, fairly manipulative etc and towing a very dark line. I'm not dismissing his battles; how much someone needs support in those times and I know that hes fully aware of how he behaved but it can't possibly be a case of forgive and forget it's not just going to be some switch in Laura's mind where she can forget all these memories. You can assume that there would be some scary, dark moments where she would be worried about Steven, herself and their kids. For the people calling her selfish for moving out and putting up boundaries.. you can see in this video that he's pushing her boundaries, making it uncomfortable by bringing up getting back together. So i actually respect her for maintaining boundaries because it does seem IMO that if she gives him an inch, he would take the mile. If she opens the door a crack, he'll try wrench it open. I think shes just protecting herself, protecting him and their children. I feel the more he pushes, the more she'd likely retreat rather than just gently rebuilding trust together. She isn't just going to walk back into his arms when he could head.down the slippery slope again in 3 months time. Its easy to judge her because we get emotional videos from Steven, but honestly I can only imagine how stressful it must have been. And your love would change. The dynamic would change. So if they're going to reconcile at any point, it will happen if she wants to as well not just because he's telling her it will happen.
The upspeak bit 😂 I DIE when you guys talk about it and exaggerate it and give like at least 3 more examples than we need. I die every time. 😂😂😂 love you guys!
I'm with Laura. She starts off with mentioning the types of things he's been listening to and believing in and you can tell it doesn't align with her values . She's setting boundaries and he's no longer the man she wants to be in a relationship with and that's ok
This was definitely uncomfortable to watch. I feel Stephen was picked on in a passive aggressive way but understandly there is hurt and anger with everything that happened. I feel for both of them, what a major life change, etc.
It is cute but... I imagine that's part of the problem. What grown woman wants to be married to a teenager? He is very sweet but when he talks about what he misses, it is about him. He misses the way she made him feel. There was nothing specifically about her as a person. I imagine she wants an equal partner, not someone who is dependent on her for their everything. He can be sweet but still would not be a good partner until he can take responsibility for himself & his own well-being. Just my opinion.
I'd rather be married to somebody that adores me then somebody that cheats on me and there's a lot more of those kind of people out there in the field of looking for a new partner than there are people that really deserve one like Steven.
I’m so glad that Stephen is working on himself! That makes me so happy and I really hope he continues to do so because he looks wonderful! I understand how hard a breakup can be, at the moment it probably seems so so difficult to understand and accept that you and Laura are no longer together, but trust me when I say, it gets BETTER. That heartache gets better. No matter what the outcome I wish you and your family ALL the absolute best! Hang in there Stephen everything will be ok.
I just can’t get over this hold that these men with microphones have on husbands across the nation. Hubby and I have had several loud “debates” discussing Musk and Rogan. He was only brave enough to admit he thought a tweet from Petersen was funny 😂. I told him he better not go further down that pipeline 🙅🏼♀️🙅🏼♀️🙅🏼♀️ It freaks me out 😂
Loving the light hearted humour in this guys! Together or not you guys have an inimitable chemistry together - so no matter what don’t stop making content.
İ know you are trying to make your own personal space for your own reasons, but I feel like it's unfair to call the house 'your house', when this visibly causes Stephen pain, which you can see in his face. He worked equally hard to create that family house and especially for its renovation and he's already having a really hard time not living with his children.
Stephen is SO happy with his family! Laura makes him laugh and I see it more now! He lights up! He’s himself - he’s excited, he’s happy. I’m not saying “get back together“ but I’m SO happy they’re such a good team when together ❤
Please Laura, you can not! CAN NOT! Continue to do these podcasts with your ex! He still clearly has very strong feelings for you! I know you two like this thing you got going and want to try make this work for your channel and because he wants it also. Idk this is just so edgy for me! Ekkkkk. Just give him time on his own being civil just for the kids. Been there done that lived with my ex for 6 months who I left because I feel out of love as long as my ex who was madly in love with me is around you often won't be able to heal and move on.
What a weird thing to say. First “you don’t have male friend” and then “you were away from the family”. I think she was putting him down so much. And why is it even important to have male friend or girl friends lol. The dumbest thing I ever heard.
Girl you are annoyed, mad, and unhappy; if he triggers you that much you need to contact each other only when it's about your kids. Do not drink poison just because your thirsty!!!
This is great, Steven and Laura. Seriously, there is a sense in which you two have made a pact to guide two beautiful children into the world and ultimately to self sufficiency. There is a sense that you have been together and through times together that it's too late to turn back. I am happy to see that you are supporting each other in this phase of growth. It's not like there will not be others, because life does go on. I guess what I am saying is that you care about each other such that you are able to allow each other the space to grow separately. Anyway, that's my take Laura. Blessings to you both. Love Greg
Something is just off about this. 😒
(I couldn’t watch past her throwing him under the bus about “conspiracy theories”) She knows what’s happening here. I don’t find it cute at all.
This is a woman who is So Done, but has to do what is best for her children. And I respect all the efforts Stephen's putting into improving his life. It's beautiful that you both are able and willing to go through this with us all watching, but I get that it helps pay those mortgages at the same time. Just wow! Relatable and rare, GENUINE content.
Her saying: my house!
Him saying: our house!
says it all 💔
Yep. I heard that loud and clear.
And all the work he put into that house for his family. Like a slap in the face.
@@thehomeschoolinghomemaker7403 they are separated and for very good reason, right now it's not his house, he has his own place.
@@Bethany0420 didn’t he help build or design it though?
@@hannahdurga3277 I think he did but he has his own place now. Looks like she's trying to set boundaries to protect the kiddos and herself.
So when YOU relapsed he supported you. When HE relapsed you left him?
He didn't just "relapse" - he let all the demons he'd given up fighting against - by stopping his meds, not going to meetings, not seeing a therapist regularly - completely take over to the point that he was so out of control, he tried to kill himself. He's had a history of going dark and twisty during their relationship, but this last time, Laura feared for him, for herself, and for the kids, so she called the police and Stephen was admitted to the hospital. Laura's relapses occurred before they were married and became parents. Stephen's relapse(s) became more frequent after they married and had children. It's a heartbreaking choice to separate from someone you love - but, sometimes, you have to put your safety and your children's safety first.
Whether they get back together or not, the way they work together to co-parent and still respect each other is so admirable. Good for them. I hope they find what works for them as far as their relationship.
Why and when did they break up? I lost track for a while.
I very much agree. I think that they show a lot of care and concern for one another - which, honestly, is probably more normal in a separation than it's made out to be (drama sells, after all). I do think it's obvious that they are in different places in their own healing and I hope that, in the end, they both find a lot of satisfaction in those journeys. It is clear that they will do the best they can by their children - which is so very important.
Agreed. Here's hoping they find a happier future together for their family.
Steven basically relapsed and had a breakdown and it lead to Laura realizing that there was alot of issues they needed to work individually so she decided to step away to make a better life for the kids and themselves. He is ready to get back together but she still leary which is understandable. That's the gist.
They are definitely not getting back together. You tell she’s just…done
This made me sad. Stephen was so happy to be there and Laura seemed subdued. They seem to be in very different places with the relationship.
agree but she hould tell him, she is done because on his channel he longs for her every day
You can tell she's done
That's usually how it works... And this isn't the first time so she can't force herself as the comments are saying she should.
She wants to be a carpet muncher now...
@@shannongrills7455 to be fair, she seems the type to have her carpet munched.
❤️❤️❤️ You both have been so open and vulnerable during this whole time. Thank you for inviting us in.... Even when you didn't have to. We love you, and we're rooting for both of you ❤️
This made me so sad 😢 Stephen is trying so hard to win Laura back but Laura has clearly reached a place that she might not be able to come back from. I’m sure she was telling him over and over again before they separated and he chose not to listen. It looks like she resents him now. It’s so sad though. I hope they both find happiness.
Agree so much. He seems almost giddy and hopeful, and she seems utterly done with him. That’s rough for both of them.
it happens, happened to me, at some point you are done
I was going to say, after watching all their recent videos, she seems done and way happier without him. And he just wants her back
@@meganhale3310 she doesn't seem done with him at all. She seems like she has her guard up and it's coming down slowly.
We know so little about what truly happened with them. What was said and done behind closed doors. The hurtful words that were said.
She has her guard up, rightly so. Living with an addict with a plethora of other mental health issues is hard, fucking hard.
I just wanted to say, thank you for discussing the lack of male connection for Dad’s, I was recently involved in a deck collapse that left me with 3rd degree burns over 15% of my body, my amazing husband has spent 5 months taking care of my medical needs, working his job and taking over my stay at home mom job, I noticed how run down he was and I felt like he needed some connections which he didn’t have outside of me, he started playing a sport he loved at a local rec center and in just 1 week of making those male connections his mood, energy and love of life has done a 180, there is not enough focus on the Dad’s in our life having that male support and they need it too
I am going through chemo and my husband takes care of me and it’s not always pretty . He does his wing Chung lessons once a wk and he lifts weights every morning . He plays his drums. I’m getting my last chemo treatment today yay!
You’re in the hot seat… it comes police interrogations.
I completely respect Laura's attitude to separate...then possibly divorce. Sometimes things just don't work out...and there's a perfectly good reason for that. Sometimes enough is just enough, and it's time to move on. Good on her for realizing that.
A lot of wife’s a girlfriends don’t let their husbands go out for pints a few times a week
I am only commenting this because I haven't seen anyone else say it yet: Laura, you should be proud of yourself for setting your boundaries and continuing to respect them. You may or may not feel pressure from Stephen about getting back together, but you are doing a hell of a job respecting yourself and your limits (even when it comes to the language you choose when discussing your relationship). That deserves to be celebrated.
Great job Laura for choosing what is best for you and your kids
I was thinking the same thing, she should be proud.
i thinks she is a fake,though. got the house on Steven s back, now she resides there..and not there for him when he needed it. . sad for the kids, but Stephen is a gentleman, deserves someone wayy better. would like to see laura,s bounderies if she had to make her own living,pay rent .
I agree. It’s not easy to set boundaries and keep them, especially with someone so close, and in front of the camera. You’re my hero Laura.
@@ottoottololla4410 ... You do know Laura's channel was the primary money maker by far since Stephen had quit working on films. I can promise you she is making her own living and probably footed the vast majority of the home. And even if she didn't, nobody is obligated to be in a relationship with someone because they paid for something.
Steven seems like he is super nervous and using the loud laughing to cover his "on the verge of tears"
He's always had that laugh with her 🥺💕
I think his self confidence is back!
@@OsirisIxchel I think the opposite, he’s in a fake it until you make it myself
He wants it so much and she doesn’t give a f-k , I used to like her but I can’t tolerate her attitude towards him anymore
@@susanthomas4350 he was verbally abusing her for months before this and constantly pushing her away. Then he went and had a huge blowout almost unaliving himself and you want her to get on the ground and beg for him to come back to her?! Nah
She’s turned her heart off to him. When your partner tells you they’re going to kill themselves- it really effects your mind and heart. My ex completed the threat on my birthday. Devastated me. Completely shattered me. She’s protecting her heart. It may seem like she’s being cold to him, but she’s in defense mode. It’s not poor Steven..it’s poor Laura because her heart is broken too.
This!! Thank you! The people attacking her are absolutely off their misogynistic arses!
Yes!!
I lost my fiancé due to an accident that was his own doing, though it may not be similar I know the exact feeling you’re talking about. She’s doing the right thing for her happiness.
Loved this !❤
Wait a second Simply Shannon, flip the scenario. If you went to your husband and said, "I feel awful, I am having suicidal thoughts" What you're saying above is that your husband would be affected in the heart and mind. Then if you did complete the threat as you said. He would be devastated and shattered. So... if a partner, male or female goes to another and asks for help, you should help each other.
The fact you think your partner reaching out for support and help is victimization of you! Is insane to me. Turned off her heart to protect herself, Did her heart not love him and want to love and help him. You think walking away from someone you love because they may break your heart is mad.
They are going to be ok! Together or not… their chemistry is beautiful. Best friends, coparents, a couple… what ever it is. They will be ok! I wish them the best!!! No matter what!
Please, please, PLEASE don't call your kids trash bags. I understand it's a joke, but that will subliminally soak into their psyche. 😔😔😔
Keeping you, Stephen, Alfie, and Poppy in my prayers! Love seeing you both together! Stephen just lights up chatting with you! ❤️
You can see how much Stephen loves ❤️ his family all over his face!!!
@@StefanieTaylorsVersion, exactly! I pray they can sort out their issues and hopefully get back together again. ❤️
He adores her and their kiddos so much 🥰
That man DEEPLY loves his wife and children. I would give a lot to have a man like Stephen. Ladies would line up.
@@alisharichard8925 indeed. And watch her change her tune once he finds someone else ....
Oh honey. I can see your light is dim. Everyone saying how sorry they feel for him, but I recognize your body language, your tone, the look in your eyes. You're tired, heartbroken. Yet you keep pushing through to start with us. You are literally amazing Laura. Don't let the light go out. I let mine go out and now I don't know how to get it back.
Completely agree. I hope she knows better than to feel guilty by him and the public, and I hope she knows better than to feel responsible for his sobriety because its not hers to carry. Steven is a narcissist, she would be very smart to never get back together with him again.
I see that too. I hope they can heal, hopefully together, but either way.
Think she has a cold
Okay don’t pitty her and don’t attack her ex husband. Your situation may not be hers. She actually is trying to heal and keep him in her life as co parent.
I can’t help but feel really sad for Stephen. I feel like he’s such an amazing person- & he’s so great with his children. I know we only get to see a little of your lives but I can’t help but feel like he just hit a rough patch..like we all do when we struggle with mental illness& addiction.
Whether or not he and Laura can work it out..I genuinely hope Stephen works it out with himself & can eventually find someone to share his life with. He has so much love to give- I can tell.
I wish you both the absolute best.
I also applaud Stephen for even doing this- I don’t think I could have done this without suffering consequences mentally. To sit there with my ex who I am still madly in love with would be extremely hard…he’s all smiling but I know he’s hurting during this interview.
It makes me really sad! I totally agree! She’s way to cruel to do this to him. Hopefully her son Alfie finds someone more kind and understanding of his autism symptoms when he marries one day. I’m sure Laura won’t want to see a woman leave her own son for having a melt down and becoming overwhelmed. No one is perfect and she isn’t either. She clearly has that upper hand and poor Stephen.
He’s so in love with her. And she was so condescending during the interview. Makes me sad.
AE totally agree. I'm not so sure he should've done this podcast. Might set him back a bit. I wish the best for Stephen. He's a good man & will find love again, w/ someone who understands him & will stay by his side through thick & thin. Stardom almost always causes marital problems
OK reading the comments on this comment, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who picked up on this. It's heartbreaking to see Stephen be beyond thrilled to even be in the same room with her and Laura being...idk, giving off kind of an angry, defensive vibe. And I get it because that's the way some people protect themselves after being really hurt. It seems like that guard up that she mentioned makes her look cold and standoffish and in contrast he's glowing with pure joy at being in her presence.
It looks bad but I've been in a similar situation and she needs to do what she needs to do to protect herself until she makes the terrifying step of trusting again. It's sad and hard to see and makes her look very unsympathetic and we all know Laura. She's not cruel and she wouldn't have this behavior if she didn't feel like she needs it right now. His pain is very public, we've only seen snippets of hers.
I can't villainize her as much as I want her to be different with him right now but I did see it too and I'm glad I'm not the only one because I felt like I possibly imagined it.
Trying to be supportive of both and on the side of everyone being truly happy, whatever that looks like in the end.
They’re not divorced tho just separated and figuring things out and Stephan was the one who went and messed it all up
"I want you back" Those words hurt me and hes not even my husband. Steven, you almost took that option away forever. I understand that you are getting better. And coparenting is going as well as it can. But on lauras end, How could she say the same to you, If you were gone permanently. Maybe one day you will get back together. Until then, I hope your actions show what you say... Love to you both❤
I got the impression that Laura didn’t want to do this at all… maybe I’m wrong?
no, she is very condescending I am sorry but it is awful
@@katjaxxx7353 hard to watch, she talks to him like he’s stupid or something…I dunno what this interview was all about but I’m a little baffled by the “wow you guys have such great chemistry” comments because Laura was definitely cold in this one.
Poor guy, she is done and has left the building. He just hasn’t accepted it yet. Hopefully they both find their new paths to happiness and maintain their parental connections ❤
It could change, she's experiencing the freedom she hasn't had in sooo sooo long. I'm sure she has tried making it work for so long she's just mentally, emotionally and physically tapped out at the moment. She needs to live her life and re find herself. They could possibly get back together a year from now but if they don't, that's ok too.
I would not say “poor guy” just because he is wearing his feelings on his sleeve more than she is. While I agree that Laura seems very done, and is working very hard to walk on eggshells without breaking any at this point, the carton’s already been dumped on the floor. I commend Laura’s focusing on co-parenting and can’t imagine how hard it is for her to work with him/coparent with him, and not simultaneously enable him.
Totally agree Sammee. My heart hurts for him.
Laura is about her money and her looks now she has an attitude now I don’t like her anymore like ewe
I can't believe so many people are diagnosing their entire relationship based on one podcast. Some saying they are in love, others saying there's nothing there anymore. How ridiculous. We don't know how they feel and have no right saying any of this. Only they know how they feel and I would love to see them back together because they had so much love and compassion for each other but either way I just wish them both the best.
I don't think anyone's crazy, I think it's quite clear that Laura is speaking of their relationship as past tense and Stephen is the only one who doesn't know that they're over. She needs to be direct and tell him so he can mourn the actual loss of their relationship and begin really healing from it. It's kind of....wrong not to tell him.
Stacy hittin' the nail on the head!! We only know what they share publicly, not the full story or even what's truly in their hearts.
@@jmickster029 🤦🏼♀️
This IS what No Fault Divorce has done to THE FAMILY.
THIS IS WAR ON FAMILY
The number ONE unit.
Divide and Conquer.
So SAD
Stephen has repeatedly asked for peoples opinions….he speaks his truth and so will other people. It can’t be helped if what is said is not what he wants to hear. If so….maybe living his separation via a public forum is a mistake. I too wish they both find a peaceful and mutually acceptable answer to this sad situation.
We all need to remember the last 6-12 months we’re hard on Laura. Does she want to go through that again? I think she still loves Stephen but has a lot to work through. Stephen wants things to go back to normal. Laura’s normal changed. Her guard is up. His isn’t.
I am so glad that Steven seems to be doing better. I'm glad that Laura is not giving in to his wanting to get back together. The work they are both doing on themselves is too important. If they are meant to come back together they will when the time is right.
The pressure Stephen is inadvertently putting on Laura is only going to serve to push her away.
If his aim is to get back with her, he's doing everything wrong. On his channel he comes across inconsistent, insecure , unsure and constantly seeking approval. None of which is attractive or convincing that he won't go into the spiral that's brought them to this point.
Agree 100 , he’s so immature. I cant stand him .
Good, she is so controlling. Awful. Needs a British Woman, not a lunatic.
@@welermo1109 Any man wd go insane living with her ffs.
@@Bombabingbong66 oxymoron 🤣🤣🤣
The way your energies bounce off each other is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen 😢
Their old videos are a delight 😊
what? No chemistry whatsoever, she acts as if she is his Mum and not Partner
@@katjaxxx7353 🤦🏼♀️
Steven seems to have that nervous laugh that reminds me of me when I’m around a loved one has been emotionally distant with me and I’m trying to reconcile 😢
Yes me too.. its hard seeing it on a screen and realising ..'sounds and looks just like me '
@@helenh20mo yea I know right. It feels awkward and I wish so bad things would be back to normal
I feel bad for Steven for some reason . He’s clearly head over hills . Overly animated , trying to get through the interview. Of course I don’t live with them and don’t know all of the dynamics of the relationship. So don’t come for me a get that the videos they both share are just a snippet of real life .
Totally agree
I agree with youuuuuu!!!
He's got a porn addiction...
You feel bad for him because Laura is making fun of him and being low key annoyed with him. She should really take him back. He’s a sweet man, who just had a troubled issue, and he’s working on himself. It’s not like he beat her. Shit
@@Ladybird1967 yikes... if you standard is that someone didn't beat you so you should take him back then I just feel sad for you.
No please don’t identify with that person Elon your boy is so much better
I sense she has no interest at all about reconciliation..
Absolutely AGREE.
You can't even deny the change in Stephen when he's around Laura, he's smiling and laughing and energetic and happy. ☺️
I really hope they get back together (and frickin soon)
He clearly loves her so much. And she sounds done.
But she’s not tho
@@candylover3394 I think she's trying to stay focused. I think she's happy with him in the room, but she doesn't want to give him false hope.
Yeeeah, but she's firm in where she's at and I don't believe she's feeling the deep connection to a future with him.
Just remember, someone loving you and wanting to be with you and his family is not always a codependent thing.
A marriage is supposed to be codependent.
I agree also.
yes but it can lead to dependence since someone who loves you will do anything with you and it makes it easy to depend on them. Which is can lead to codependency. Just wanted to add my view point since I am trying to get out of my codependency, I have kids and I'm autistic (currently being diagnosed). I think its ok to be cautious and to explore freedoms and the thrill that it gives.
Exactly!
Yes it is sopose to be codependent that’s the entire point but in a healthy way.
Just going to say this, if he stood by her and supported her during 3+ relapses, she calls herself "crazy" at the time. it's a bit crappy she left him during his hard time. That doesn't seem quite fair.
The way she spoke to him and made fun of him was shitty. If I dressed up and tried to look nice for my husband, even if we are separated, and he instead insulted and made fun of me, I'd have some mental health issues also. Got a glimps into their dynamic and I'm not surprised Stephen has self esteem issues.
Also the snide claiming of their house as hers alone and that stuff about building a 'brand'. Isn't that what you do Laura? Both of you make money off being recovering addicts and parents. What does it need to be pointed out for him specifically? I also didn't feel great about how she imitated what he said and his accent.
@@Jemini4228 yeah she was incredibly disrespectful. Not going to lie, she reminds me of a narcissistic ex I once had. The way she treated him in that podcast was deplorable, and I usually love both her and Stephen. But the way she behaved yesterday was a very very bad look.
I listened to the podcast, cried during that 20 something second deafening pause right along with both of you. Stephen take it day by day, stay present, trust has been broken, but the love for you from Laura is there... don't push, heal.. I'm so proud of both of you. I'm nobody, but I'm invested, lol. You 2 are 2 of my fave people and help me daily to stay focused, present and SOBER!!
Same here and you worded that 💯 perfectly I love them and they do the same for my recovery as well
I feel like Stephen is at a disadvantage in terms of social support. Laura has her family and childhood friends around her whereas he is a British immigrant living thousands of miles from his own family and roots. That's got to play a part in mental health.
Steven is making me uncomfortable in this interview. He needs to chill a little.
L: - when Stephen comes visit me at my home
S: - when i come home
L: - when he visits me at my home
Man, did i feel his pain....
This podcast was so painfully awkward to watch.
Laura is so over him.
He was so nervous, his laugh is not a joyful laughter full of love and hope...He might still love her, i give you that, but it would be better for him to build his life elsewhere, cause Laura won't take him back.
I wish them both lots of good energy and harmony and i hope they find their strength and joy.
They have turned their lives into a soap opera.
Stephen, you absolutely radiate light when you look at Laura. I haven't seen you this truly animated in a long, long time. Laura your comedic talent shines with Stephen. I'm praying for your family.
Agreeeeeee!
I was literally thinking the same thing!
Agreed
Exactly!!!! I agree!!!!
Unlike her…😢
I think they both still have a lot of healing. 10yrs together and recovering addiction then a tragedy makes you change your paths. It doesn't mean they won't realign. I think they are best friends deep inside and this is just hard. It would be hard for anyone in private or public. I wish them both well wherever they land.
As someone who has been hurt by her husband over and over and keeps taking him back, your body language feels very relatable to me. Protecting you and your kids well being is instinctual and you shouldn't question your instincts to do whatever you need to do. Every time I separated from my husband, I floated back on his every promise and didn't wait to actually see him prove anything. I regret that almost every day. The pain of being hurt again was almost unbearable.
Was your partner on the autistic spectrum ? Mine is , so I’m curious . I’m ADHD and the dynamic is quite different than , neurotypical couples. I’m sorry that you had such a difficult time . I don’t feel sorry for Stephen here . I think that he’s definitely expressing adoration ( who can blame him ) I think that their willingness to do this, speaks volumes, regarding how much they actually do care about each other. I actually see two people who have had a bloody hard year / lockdown . That are doing there very best to heal . Anyways sending you and them blessings 🙏
That was way too niche. I thought it was bullying. Sitting there talking About the guest as a ''third person." SHe oughta go get couselling TOO and redo the steps especially the audit. Her addiction needs checking - where does acting END - whenis OFF STAGE?
it's hard. we want to believe those promises.
@@lovedaybebe5881 to answer your question he is not on the spectrum
Yet here she is exploiting him as honestly who else would go on her podcast? Most people have no idea who she is! She’s far to big for her boots. Stop trying to make Stephen out to be the bad guy. He has a mental illness. Laura is not perfect. If anything she comes across the narcissist. Obsessed with ‘being famous’ with very little talent. I’m not surprised Stephen became seriously depressed. She uses Stephen for content all the time. She has nothing to give without him.
Stephen: "...when I come home..."
Laura: (correcting him) "...when you come visit me at MY home..."
I don't understand why Laura would intentionally say something so cruel. Did Stephen not help pay for the new house? Didn't he spend countless days (months!) following/overseeing and sorting out all the problems with the renovations of the new home? Is his name not on the deed for some reason?
They are still married, so I don't understand why she thinks their house is no longer theirs, but hers only. That comment was unnecessarily cruel. And unfair, in my opinion.
At first, my heart went out for Stephen because like everyone said, he clearly adores his family and seems to understand what it means to be a good father and a family man.
But listening to Laura talk about his behavior towards her while he was struggling helps put things in perspective. Do I want Laura to just be like “Yes! Come home, Stephen!!”? Absolutely! But at the same time he hurt her so deeply for so long. Because of his struggles, his behaviors made her feel small, diminished, unworthy, and unloved. Stephen is 100% trying, no doubt about that, but he’s not perfect, so right now, I’m sure that anytime he displays behaviors remotely close to his previous behaviors it brings Laura back to all those times she was hurt.
I think in addition to understanding what makes a good father, it’s important for Stephen to understand and learn how to be and what it means to be a good husband to Laura.
Whatever happens, I genuinely wish happiness for the both of them 💕💕
I just love the both of you, separately and together. The hopeless romantic in me wants you and Stephen to work through this and get back together, you have beautiful synergy together. The realist in me knows that I haven't walked in either of your shoes and only the two of you know what's best for each of you. I pray for your wellness, your healing, and your peace, always. Thank you to both you and Stephen for sharing your vulnerability with us. I will try to find the podcast on spotify to listen to the rest. Oh, and I did all the things! ♡
I actually love y’all together but I’m obsessed with this self discovery journey you’re on! I don’t blame you at all for wanting to continue to grow rather than risk getting stuck in the same cycle again. Hope whatever happens, y’all both keep pushing yourselves as individuals.
Watched the autism expert video. All the answers to the problems are there. Stephen ended up getting the meltdown the doctor warned about. Think Stephen completely got the "bill"for all those years undiagnosed and without understanding the condition. Getting triggered by watching his son relive his own trauma. I think he almost had to have this meltdown in order to restart... It is obvious the two of you really love each other and belong together. Hope you won't divorce and quit even when that feels easier. It's the pressure that makes the diamond. Don't quit.
I agree so much! They are married. They vowed for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health. Until death. They are not dead.
@@RobertdddJones Well that not aged well...
oh gosh! I hate watching this... if I can as politely as possible ask you guys not to do this again, until you know where you Both stand and know what you want.
In MY eyes this is not a fair situation. for me, someone get's across an a-hole and the other one sweet. I don't wish that on either of you. ❤
Yeah ngl this was the most awkward podcast I have ever watched
I feel bad for Stephen..No Laura it's not your home...it belongs to both of you.
If this is actually real then I feel bad for Steven because she is cold to him and you can see she doesn’t want him. I could not even imagine my girl treating my that way. Why are they sitting so far apart? Truly sad!
I kind of understand Laura for beeing so cold towards him.. he litterally started his own chanel from scratch based on HER and their familly! She is pissed that he kinda uses her to create content and it s crystal clear!
Correct
So shes only allowed to profit like a big leech off of him. But him not so much? They are both entitled to do it.
@@ΧρύσαΝάσση I never thought of that yeah you never. I said the same thing when he started first posting those videos. Something seems off about the whole situation
@@outofthebox9913 i agree..
Stephen seems so nervous which makes it so cute because it shows how much he still loves her. Laura seems like she's just going through the motions and has her guard up as to not confuse him into thinking they are getting back together.
Cute?
exactly. she just wants to have an easy living.-material ,technical help from Steven.otherwise she is very spiritual and shit
@@christinamccracken1090 yes cute. Because he still loves her...?
The way Laura talks to Stephen makes me feel really sad. I don’t even know why. I guess I sense pain as an empath and I’m just so sad for the situation. I hope they get a happy ending!
Laura is getting her happy ending. She has left her husband and has all the power.
Everyone says Laura should be nicer , Stephen loves her. Etc etc
But. You know what happens. Each adult makes choices about their own lives.
Laura is allowed to move on. Stephen doesn’t have to move on but he has to respect her choices.
Every relationship that ends is because someone has moved on and the other hasn’t.
Steven reacting to the horror of microblading is hilarious 😂
The mess people go through for fashion Lmao
(I also do ridiculous things, that lmao is at the beauty industry not at specific people)
Kinda telling that he had no idea of the procedure.
You two are putting yourselves out here in public to watch this mess...We can all see he's desperate for you, but you seem to come across as not feeling him anymore..You need to let him know one way or the other, cos it's a car crash to watch tbh. Best of luck to you both.
Wow just wow as this podcast goes on I really don't want to call anybody out but seriously has changed my feelings about Laura because it's like she is showing a different side of her it's not all Steven's fault and he is openly admitted his mistakes but like he said and also watching and seeing the interaction here Laura isn't admitting to certain things herself but I love both of them it just sucks to see this
I agree! She's giving me this vibe that she's trying to make herself feel "above" Stephen by making mean jokes at his expense (eyebrows, you're the "big" trash, etc, you're building work that's "not dependent on me"). Ick.
Honestly from Laura’s body language and choice words this relationship is over for sure she’s done
Laura, it’s very brave for you and Stephen to sit and do this podcast. I’m gonna hop over to listen in full. It’s hard for people for whom this is so new and raw to do. ❤
The term "hot seat" allegedly came from the 1930s of being electrocuted in the chair, hence hot seat... had to look it up lol
Thanks for that! ❤
It is so interesting watching the two of you, strangers as of right now, you are both evolving independently and its wonderful to see but the love in your eyes for each other wether romantic or not is evident. Keep moving forward to better yourselves and focus on what’s important to each of you, no matter the outcome.
The five things I am grateful for:
1. Being alive and having a roof over my head.
2. Listening to you talk on your channel (your channel has helped me through a lot of rough patches)
3. My dogs
First time i found out about you was a FB video; you were so pretty but so goofy & funny. I never saw a pretty woman act that way around her partner & not be embarrassed. I could never be myself w/my exhusband, nor did we hang out w/other couples like that. I saw Stephen get more involved in your videos, & y'all became my favorite couple. I learned a lot from y'all. I was shocked that y'all survived addictions and were able to be so confident and vulnerable. I really did learn a lot from y'all. So grateful for y'all. Partnership. Teamwork. Then i saw y'all were separated. This is funny stupid, but it hit me harder than anything I've been through, including my divorce, which hurt like hell. I guess y'all already have the friendship and communication going, and the best co parentingI've ever seen, but i hope that y'all can work it out, slowly i guess, but eventually. I wish y'all were characters in a novel that has a happy ending. I'm proud of y'all either way.
I dont feel bad for Stephen at all. Have any of you read the books and seen how he treats her? 🙄 Good for you Laura!! Cheering for you
I am praying for you both - I hope you both find the happiness that you both deserve ❤ I care about you both
It's exactly what Laura admits to, she has a guard up- most likely rightfully so. And Stephen is smitten and high energy because he is a man determined to win his family back. I hope they get through this stronger individually and more in love in the end ❤️
I feel like Laura just critics and Passive aggressively makes fun of him and puts him down..
Yep we all see that too.
Laura girl you clearly don't want to be with him anymore.
I was so overwhemled when I watched this - almost as if I was sitting across from my ex-husband. There is a tangible feeling here - you can see it in your eyes, in your smile, that guarded, nervous, "don't come too close to my heart please" feeling. I am so sorry. Sometimes, there are things you don't have to say, because we know. There is a massive community of women who KNOW without words, those feelings, that anxiety, that fear - we stand together in silence I feel, because really, to force our truth into the world is futile. We know it. We lived it. We survived it. And we are here xx
you two look cute! Stephen laughs like a high school boy talking to his crush lol
My husband went crazy 7 years ago and had a midlife crisis. He cheated on me. But we decided to give it another go. It was hard at first. But he's put in the effort. Our relationship now is stronger then its ever been. It doesn't happen for everyone though. It's got to be give and take and work on both parties part. I wish you both well. 💕
Great interview! I'd love to see you interview Tiffany Jenkins from Juggling the Jenkins. She is really funny and also battled addiction and wrote a book about it. Her sober Anniversary is this month!
I. ADORE. HER. 💜
I feel like they have collabed before?! But they definitely are friendly! On social & whatever...
I'd love for Tiffany to be on, too! ♥
Yessssszzz!
I feel like Stephen has to walk on eggshells around her. That will do nothing for his healing and getting better for his family. I get it we dont know the full story and she went through a lot to but these two are clearly on different paths and Laura needs to lay it out for him she doesnt see a future with him.
I swear I could've recorded these. My husband and I went thru the exact same thing. Codependency. Mental health issues. Both of us completely lost ourselves. Separated 6 mos refocused on ourselves, our faith & our mental health. Our marriage & family life has never been better.
Yay, I'm so glad for you! Hope the same happens for them. They are funnier together.
Like: Burns & Allen, Wilma & Fred, martin & lewis, Abbott & Costello 😊
There are definitely 2 different kinds of energy here. She looks and sounds very done. The way certain things are worded from her just seem a bit heartless. Stephen is really trying his best to be upbeat. Hope the best for them.
100000%
Agree
Yep. Alot of us see it.
Heartless? How about just fucking done? Why is that heartless? She wasn’t mean to him.
Definitely heartless
The extremely privileged yt male thing isn't cute. It's disappointing hearing him say he "doesn't care" about politics. My existence is political. It must be nice.
Stephen is adorable. How wonderful that he has taken so much effort to work on himself and also to impress you. I love this!! I wish there were more men like him! Great interview Laura! ❤️
Look how happy Stephen is when he is with you! I hope you don't give up on him...
The sad thing is when the wife realize that its better without the husband, it's over!
I feel like some people don't understand that just because someone loves you, doesn't mean you have to love them back. They can treat you the best, they may not be at all a bad person, but not right for you. Basically, don't force a relationship to happen for anyone. Do what you feel is right.
This right here 👆 ...I am going through this
Laura, seems you have changed so. Cold! Remember your wedding vows.
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting what it must have actually been like for Laura to be in a situation for 6-12 months or whatever she said where your husband is totally checked out, disinterested, fairly manipulative etc and towing a very dark line. I'm not dismissing his battles; how much someone needs support in those times and I know that hes fully aware of how he behaved but it can't possibly be a case of forgive and forget
it's not just going to be some switch in Laura's mind where she can forget all these memories. You can assume that there would be some scary, dark moments where she would be worried about Steven, herself and their kids. For the people calling her selfish for moving out and putting up boundaries.. you can see in this video that he's pushing her boundaries, making it uncomfortable by bringing up getting back together. So i actually respect her for maintaining boundaries because it does seem IMO that if she gives him an inch, he would take the mile. If she opens the door a crack, he'll try wrench it open. I think shes just protecting herself, protecting him and their children. I feel the more he pushes, the more she'd likely retreat rather than just gently rebuilding trust together. She isn't just going to walk back into his arms when he could head.down the slippery slope again in 3 months time. Its easy to judge her because we get emotional videos from Steven, but honestly I can only imagine how stressful it must have been. And your love would change. The dynamic would change. So if they're going to reconcile at any point, it will happen if she wants to as well not just because he's telling her it will happen.
The upspeak bit 😂 I DIE when you guys talk about it and exaggerate it and give like at least 3 more examples than we need. I die every time. 😂😂😂 love you guys!
I would never speak about my own autistic child in this way - appalling
I'm with Laura. She starts off with mentioning the types of things he's been listening to and believing in and you can tell it doesn't align with her values . She's setting boundaries and he's no longer the man she wants to be in a relationship with and that's ok
I LOVED THIS!!!! You guys are truly growing individually and together. Continued love, hugs, and prayers.
I’m just gonna say, love the manscara Steven. Love you both, and y’all aren’t alone, keep working…keep loving…find joy again. ❤
I think his eyebrows and facial hair looks great. I don't know what the heck Laura was talking about.
This was definitely uncomfortable to watch. I feel Stephen was picked on in a passive aggressive way but understandly there is hurt and anger with everything that happened. I feel for both of them, what a major life change, etc.
You can just tell you are both meant to be together. Your energies just compliment so well 😢 hoping for the best for you both ❤
I love seeing you 2 work together ❤️
Stephen looks so happy, Laura just seems like “Eh let’s get this over with”.
Stephen adores Laura he is like a giggly teenager, it is adorable and so cute.
It is cute but... I imagine that's part of the problem. What grown woman wants to be married to a teenager? He is very sweet but when he talks about what he misses, it is about him. He misses the way she made him feel. There was nothing specifically about her as a person. I imagine she wants an equal partner, not someone who is dependent on her for their everything. He can be sweet but still would not be a good partner until he can take responsibility for himself & his own well-being. Just my opinion.
I'd rather be married to somebody that adores me then somebody that cheats on me and there's a lot more of those kind of people out there in the field of looking for a new partner than there are people that really deserve one like Steven.
Laura speaks down to him. She believes she knows everything he is going through and why. It’s very odd. She’s lacking a lot of empathy here.
I’m so glad that Stephen is working on himself! That makes me so happy and I really hope he continues to do so because he looks wonderful! I understand how hard a breakup can be, at the moment it probably seems so so difficult to understand and accept that you and Laura are no longer together, but trust me when I say, it gets BETTER. That heartache gets better. No matter what the outcome I wish you and your family ALL the absolute best! Hang in there Stephen everything will be ok.
First of all, is the house Laura is in their marital home??? I just wondered why she said it was her home.
I'm glad to see y'all creating together again. I definitely see a lot of progress between you two. I hope for the best between yall and your family.
I just can’t get over this hold that these men with microphones have on husbands across the nation. Hubby and I have had several loud “debates” discussing Musk and Rogan. He was only brave enough to admit he thought a tweet from Petersen was funny 😂. I told him he better not go further down that pipeline 🙅🏼♀️🙅🏼♀️🙅🏼♀️ It freaks me out 😂
Loving the light hearted humour in this guys! Together or not you guys have an inimitable chemistry together - so no matter what don’t stop making content.
You can totally tell when he looks at her he is so in love and I feel like this can make him feel worse and not be able to move on love wise.
Love you guys and I really hope you guys don't give up on each other.
İ know you are trying to make your own personal space for your own reasons, but I feel like it's unfair to call the house 'your house', when this visibly causes Stephen pain, which you can see in his face. He worked equally hard to create that family house and especially for its renovation and he's already having a really hard time not living with his children.
Stephen is SO happy with his family! Laura makes him laugh and I see it more now! He lights up! He’s himself - he’s excited, he’s happy. I’m not saying “get back together“ but I’m SO happy they’re such a good team when together ❤
Please Laura, you can not! CAN NOT! Continue to do these podcasts with your ex! He still clearly has very strong feelings for you! I know you two like this thing you got going and want to try make this work for your channel and because he wants it also. Idk this is just so edgy for me! Ekkkkk. Just give him time on his own being civil just for the kids. Been there done that lived with my ex for 6 months who I left because I feel out of love as long as my ex who was madly in love with me is around you often won't be able to heal and move on.
What a weird thing to say. First “you don’t have male friend” and then “you were away from the family”. I think she was putting him down so much. And why is it even important to have male friend or girl friends lol. The dumbest thing I ever heard.
Exactly.
Girl you are annoyed, mad, and unhappy; if he triggers you that much you need to contact each other only when it's about your kids.
Do not drink poison just because your thirsty!!!
Btw, damn you are savage!!! 😂😂😂
This is great, Steven and Laura. Seriously, there is a sense in which you two have made a pact to guide two beautiful children into the world and ultimately to self sufficiency. There is a sense that you have been together and through times together that it's too late to turn back. I am happy to see that you are supporting each other in this phase of growth. It's not like there will not be others, because life does go on. I guess what I am saying is that you care about each other such that you are able to allow each other the space to grow separately. Anyway, that's my take Laura. Blessings to you both. Love Greg