Many of Beethoven's and other composers' compositions for small especially mixed (winds and strings) ensembles were "experiments" to get a "feel" for how combinations of different instruments sounded. This composition and his Eb septet are examples that come to mind and were very "instrumental" (pardon the pun) to Beethoven when it came time to write his major orchestral pieces.
Very nice and clean performance. However, the dynamics seem quite "flattened" in comparison to the score. Can't help but feel the dissonance between "neo-classical beauty" sound and "Beethovenian twisted idiom" score. Anyway, I'm glad to listen to that piece for the first time in my life - thank you for that.
Gracias por compartir esta serenata de Beethoven y las otras composiciones. No tenía idea que Beethoven había creado una serenata, me sorprendió esto. Muchas gracias por todo el material. Saludos desde Chile.🇨🇱
Sounds much more like Mozart than Beethoven. Beethoven could have a sly sense of humor, which is evident here. His orchestral flute parts are more interesting, but this is fun.
@@oliverwelles5366 For example, the first measures of the menuetto have two third beat sforzandi on the F# in the flute and there's a crescendo into piano at measure 4. The theme, say, to the variations that start opus 26 are full of these, and this is not something Mozart does much of.
@@oliverwelles5366 Sorry! I might guess that Moana might be thinking about how this piece is more pretty than it is dramatic. Hence, more Mozart maybe?
Yea like Mozart didn't have a brain and all those other things. Anyone who could compose Don Giovanni as one example, is nothing short of a genius. Of course this piece is gorgeous as well, although I don't appreciate weak critism on Mozart thank you very much !
What an ignorant comment. Can't even identify what makes Beethoven different (and possibly better) than Mozart. Mozart had brain, idea, and logical continuity in droves-much better than Beethoven did. What Mozart mostly lacked was the emotional depth, nuance, and tone that Beethoven brought to the table
It surprises you??? Beethoven has many more works with this style, Beethoven was not always anger, strength and passion, he also has happy, simple or children's works and many he composed after 1805 onwards, so if you are going to criticize Mozart's music for being always "happy or childish" I recommend that you first listen all the work of Beethoven. Listen to these works by Beethoven that do not sound with that fury that their fans boast so much about, this is just a sample, I missed more, but then I added them. Check out this works of Beethoven. Op.116 (1801-02) Bundeslied Op.122 (1824) Op.65 Op.108 (1817) 8 Lieder Op.52 (1790-1805) WoO.90 WoO.140 (1811) Song "Mit Einem Gemalten Band. Leichtlich und mit Grazie Vorgetragen" in F major Op.83 No.3 (1810) "Das Glück der Freundschaft" Op.88 (1803) 6 Songs Op.75 (1809) "Adelaide" Op.46 (1795) Opferlied in E major WoO.126 (1794-1802) Opferlied in E major Op.121b (1822-23) Military March WoO.24 (1816) WoO.29 WoO.44a WoO.20 (1810) Military March WoO.19 (1808) WoO.155 (1813) Op.17 Trio for 2 oboes and english horn in C major Op.87 (1794) WoO.153 WoO.18 Op.105 (1817-18) WoO.23 (1810) WoO.37 "Der Mann von Wort" Op.99 (1816) "Merkenstein" Op.100 (1814) Serenade for flute and piano Op.41(1803) Cantata "Lobkowitz" for Voice, Chorus & Piano in E-flat major WoO.106 (1823) Lied "Neue Liebe, neues Leben" in C major WoO.127 (1799) Lied " Der Gesang der Nachtigall" in C major WoO.141 (1813) Canon "Esel aller Esel, hi ha" Hess.277 Canon WoO.162 Canon " Kurtz ist der Sehmerz, und ewig der Freud" WoO.163 (1813) Canon "Das Reden" WoO.168b Canon "Das Schweigen" WoO.168a Canon "Hofmann und Kein Hofmann" WoO.180 Canon "Das Göttliche" in E major WoO.185 Canon "Schwenke" WoO.187 (1824) Canon "Ewig dein" WoO.161 Canon "Glück zum neuen Jahr" WoO.165 Canon "Ich bitt' dich" WoO.172 Canon "Hol' euch der Teufel! B'hüt euch Gott!" WoO.173 Canon "Da ist das Werk" WoO.197 Canon "Freu dich des Lebens" WoO.195 Canon "Bester Magistrat, Ihr friert" WoO.177 Canon "Es muss sein" WoO.196 Canon "Sankt Petrus war ein Fels" WoO.175 Canon "Gedenket heute an Baden" No.1 WoO.181 Canon "Gehabt euch wohl" No.2 WoO.181 Canon "Tugend ist Kein leerer Name" No.3 WoO.181 Canon "Bester Herr Graf" WoO.183 Canon "Falstafferel" WoO.184 Canon "Ars longa, vita brevis" WoO.192 Canon "Gott ist eine feste Burg" WoO.188 Canon "Ich war hier, Doktor!" WoO.190 Canon "Abbé Stadler" in B-flat major WoO.178 (1820) Canon "Doktor, sperrt das Tor dem Tod"in C major WoO.189 (1825) Rondo for Piano in G major "Rage over a lost penny" Op.129 (1795-98) Andante and Variations for Mandolina & Piano in D major WoO.44b (1796) Sonatina for Mandolina & Piano in C major WoO.44a (1796) WoO.26 12 German Dances for orchestra WoO.8 (1795) Duet for clarinet and bassoon in F WoO.27 WoO.99 (1796 or 1801-03) Septet Op.20 First movement from Symphony No.6 Op.68 "pastoral" Allegretto scherzado and Tempo di menuetto from Symphony No.8 Op.93 WoO.99 (1800)
@@Fm-xu9id I don't think it is necessarily a ding on Beethoven to say that his music is diverse .... I've never even heard anyone say hat Beethoven was always angered; I think people say that Beethoven's fury is more "furious" than Mozart's. This piece isn't even simple... 11:19 is 4 voices using two instruments, Mozart rarely had 4 voices for solo piano, let alone 2 voices for a solo stringed instrument (Bach wrote an entire fugue for solo violin). You also missed op 51 on your list
11:18 4. Andante con Variazioni (G major) sounds too similar to Haydn's Et Incarnatus from his Nelson Mass ua-cam.com/video/WGD88-B0Zio/v-deo.html&ab_channel=IRISZUCKER
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I am playing this for a contest on my flute. Hearing the recording has helped a lot with practicing!
If you did not write, I wouldn' t bet that this masterpiece was from Beethoven!!!
Many of Beethoven's and other composers' compositions for small especially mixed (winds and strings) ensembles were "experiments" to get a "feel" for how combinations of different instruments sounded. This composition and his Eb septet are examples that come to mind and were very "instrumental" (pardon the pun) to Beethoven when it came time to write his major orchestral pieces.
Very beautiful, mozartian, obvious are the influences from Magic Flute
good music.
Very nice and clean performance. However, the dynamics seem quite "flattened" in comparison to the score. Can't help but feel the dissonance between "neo-classical beauty" sound and "Beethovenian twisted idiom" score. Anyway, I'm glad to listen to that piece for the first time in my life - thank you for that.
Simplesmente maravilhosa. 😍😍😍
Gracias por compartir esta serenata de Beethoven y las otras composiciones. No tenía idea que Beethoven había creado una serenata, me sorprendió esto.
Muchas gracias por todo el material.
Saludos desde Chile.🇨🇱
Thank you x 10^10!!!...Great to have the notation showing in sych with this sublime music. Brilliant!!!
¡Qué linda obra! No sabía de ella. Gracias por compartir.
thank you for this share (particularly for this Andante con Variazionni)
11:18 Sounds like Violin Romance Op. 40
17:35
I absolutely fucking LOVE this piece
>8D
thanks
Sounds much more like Mozart than Beethoven. Beethoven could have a sly sense of humor, which is evident here. His orchestral flute parts are more interesting, but this is fun.
There are enough off-beat sforzandi and crescendos into piano to indicate that this is indeed Beethoven.
How so?
@@oliverwelles5366 For example, the first measures of the menuetto have two third beat sforzandi on the F# in the flute and there's a crescendo into piano at measure 4. The theme, say, to the variations that start opus 26 are full of these, and this is not something Mozart does much of.
@@kenbusch2139 I asked the question to @Moana Kutsche
@@oliverwelles5366 Sorry! I might guess that Moana might be thinking about how this piece is more pretty than it is dramatic. Hence, more Mozart maybe?
This is from My First Signs.
Neo ya viene! Con arp citara' flute!:the' o
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11:18
A work with a style close to Mozart, but with brain, idea and logical continuity.
Only Beethoven could did that.
Yea like Mozart didn't have a brain and all those other things. Anyone who could compose Don Giovanni as one example, is nothing short of a genius. Of course this piece is gorgeous as well, although I don't appreciate weak critism on Mozart thank you very much !
@@mousikopaigmonas23 Mozart has nothing to do against Beethoven as a composer. Period.
@@eduardoguerraavila8329 You're very ignorant, but I like your passion about Beethoven.
What an ignorant comment. Can't even identify what makes Beethoven different (and possibly better) than Mozart. Mozart had brain, idea, and logical continuity in droves-much better than Beethoven did. What Mozart mostly lacked was the emotional depth, nuance, and tone that Beethoven brought to the table
I heard more Vivaldi than Mozart in this particular composition
Beethoven actually composed this?
Yes
Sounds very mozartian!
sounds like a budget Mozart would compose this
It surprises you??? Beethoven has many more works with this style, Beethoven was not always anger, strength and passion, he also has happy, simple or children's works and many he composed after 1805 onwards, so if you are going to criticize Mozart's music for being always "happy or childish" I recommend that you first listen all the work of Beethoven.
Listen to these works by Beethoven that do not sound with that fury that their fans boast so much about, this is just a sample, I missed more, but then I added them.
Check out this works of Beethoven.
Op.116 (1801-02)
Bundeslied Op.122 (1824)
Op.65
Op.108 (1817)
8 Lieder Op.52 (1790-1805)
WoO.90
WoO.140 (1811)
Song "Mit Einem Gemalten Band. Leichtlich und mit Grazie Vorgetragen" in F major Op.83 No.3 (1810)
"Das Glück der Freundschaft" Op.88 (1803)
6 Songs Op.75 (1809)
"Adelaide" Op.46 (1795)
Opferlied in E major WoO.126 (1794-1802)
Opferlied in E major Op.121b (1822-23)
Military March WoO.24 (1816)
WoO.29
WoO.44a
WoO.20 (1810)
Military March WoO.19 (1808)
WoO.155 (1813)
Op.17
Trio for 2 oboes and english horn in C major Op.87 (1794)
WoO.153
WoO.18
Op.105 (1817-18)
WoO.23 (1810)
WoO.37
"Der Mann von Wort" Op.99 (1816)
"Merkenstein" Op.100 (1814)
Serenade for flute and piano Op.41(1803)
Cantata "Lobkowitz" for Voice, Chorus & Piano in E-flat major WoO.106 (1823)
Lied "Neue Liebe, neues Leben" in C major WoO.127 (1799)
Lied " Der Gesang der Nachtigall" in C major WoO.141 (1813)
Canon "Esel aller Esel, hi ha" Hess.277
Canon WoO.162
Canon " Kurtz ist der Sehmerz, und ewig der Freud" WoO.163 (1813)
Canon "Das Reden" WoO.168b
Canon "Das Schweigen" WoO.168a
Canon "Hofmann und Kein Hofmann" WoO.180
Canon "Das Göttliche" in E major WoO.185
Canon "Schwenke" WoO.187 (1824)
Canon "Ewig dein" WoO.161
Canon "Glück zum neuen Jahr" WoO.165
Canon "Ich bitt' dich" WoO.172
Canon "Hol' euch der Teufel! B'hüt euch Gott!" WoO.173
Canon "Da ist das Werk" WoO.197
Canon "Freu dich des Lebens" WoO.195
Canon "Bester Magistrat, Ihr friert" WoO.177
Canon "Es muss sein" WoO.196
Canon "Sankt Petrus war ein Fels" WoO.175
Canon "Gedenket heute an Baden" No.1 WoO.181
Canon "Gehabt euch wohl" No.2 WoO.181
Canon "Tugend ist Kein leerer Name" No.3 WoO.181
Canon "Bester Herr Graf" WoO.183
Canon "Falstafferel" WoO.184
Canon "Ars longa, vita brevis" WoO.192
Canon "Gott ist eine feste Burg" WoO.188
Canon "Ich war hier, Doktor!" WoO.190
Canon "Abbé Stadler" in B-flat major WoO.178 (1820)
Canon "Doktor, sperrt das Tor dem Tod"in C major WoO.189 (1825)
Rondo for Piano in G major "Rage over a lost penny" Op.129 (1795-98)
Andante and Variations for Mandolina & Piano in D major WoO.44b (1796)
Sonatina for Mandolina & Piano in C major WoO.44a (1796)
WoO.26
12 German Dances for orchestra WoO.8 (1795)
Duet for clarinet and bassoon in F WoO.27
WoO.99 (1796 or 1801-03)
Septet Op.20
First movement from Symphony No.6 Op.68 "pastoral"
Allegretto scherzado and Tempo di menuetto from Symphony No.8 Op.93
WoO.99 (1800)
@@Fm-xu9id I don't think it is necessarily a ding on Beethoven to say that his music is diverse .... I've never even heard anyone say hat Beethoven was always angered; I think people say that Beethoven's fury is more "furious" than Mozart's.
This piece isn't even simple... 11:19 is 4 voices using two instruments, Mozart rarely had 4 voices for solo piano, let alone 2 voices for a solo stringed instrument (Bach wrote an entire fugue for solo violin).
You also missed op 51 on your list
11:18 4. Andante con Variazioni (G major)
sounds too similar to Haydn's Et Incarnatus from his Nelson Mass
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He was human. He made mistakes. Like this one.
It makes me weep for his reputation.
The only thing worse than a flute, is a flute accompanied by a violin and a viola.
You probably like the JSU sonic kazoos
What did flute ever do to you 😭😔
I’m playing this right now and I feel exactly the same 😅
Beethoven, what is this garbage? 😆