I was a big clash fan but I must confess I walked out of the gig at Brixton academy with this line up. It was never the same after topper and then finally mick were sacked.
Joe Strummer was a really smart thinking intelligent punk rock rebel man, god bless his soul, he knew music wasnt really about entertainment, it was about communication and a sense of understanding the world and fixing its problems. Plus Joe was a great tap dancer 5:15 😏😃💐💋🌈
The Clash as a brand and all of them fully aware of it. Joe and Paul knowing they need Mick and Topper back and the 3 "other" guys knowing their days are numbered.
The true essence of punk rock is the man or woman breaking their rear end to make a living and feeding their family.....or a guitar player starving on the streets to put out a message.. that's punk
So ironic that Joe criticized "overproduction" right before allowing Bernie Rhodes to create that overproduced abomination known as CTC. Joe is one of my favorite people of all time, but he was way too far up his own arse during this period. As he himself would later admit.
The Clash without Jones and Headon were good but nowhere near as good . Former Clash roadie Johnny Green went to a show and Strummer remarked that he was wearing a `crap suit` . Green replied `it`s not as crap as your band ` .Strummer just said `i know`. as you know doubt know he regretted sacking Topper and Mick . I reckon they (the classic line up ) could have made at least another one or maybe even two credible albums.
He tried, he got a bit lost but if you listen to what he said then he had a point. Really, this incarnation of The Clash should have been what the Mescaleros became. Joe had the right idea.
From The Clash to Combat Rock was a short time span ,i don`t think any groups could do that now. They were a 24 hour group . They had it all ,the songs the look the commitment. Sadly something as good as that can`t last .Although i reckon they could have maybe done at least one more `classic ` album with Jones.
Kerch Music the fact is once CTC was finished Joe learnt his mum was dieing of Cancer. He then took time out and in his absence Rhodes post produced the album and released it without Strummers approval. Joe never hear the album until it was already out.
Joe is talking up a good game but they were all at sea without Mick. Joe was such a great man and sad to see him entering his wilderness years here. So great he got his dues and mojo back before he passed. The fucking Clash man, never defeated, never bettered.
I love Joe but he's trying so hard to keep it going here knowing deep down that the band is done. He's spot on about a lot of things here but at the same time this is hard to watch. Especially with the "New" guys looking like they'd rather be anywhere else.
The new guys didn't even know what to say because apparently Joe and Paul's ideas were ironic for them. Y'know, they were young and probably willing some money and fame. Joe and Paul already had that fame.
New-wave pop / MTV era... The most creative New Wave was good, artistic, experimental & original and was related to the aesthetic ferment of fertile late-punk/postpunk period but he’s spot on about the ascendance of pop by then and the persistent corporatization of rock.
No,it already happened in the 70s with pop rock band like pink floyd,led zeppelin,fletwood mac and co,in fact punk was already a reaction to that,problem is that clash were not punk,they were pop rock.
I knew it was the end when Joe sacked Mick. I bought “Cut the Crap” anyway, but other than “This Is England,” I was disappointed. I’m happy for Mick as his brilliance as a lyricist and vocalist played out with BAD. Even some of his stuff with Carbon Silicon. As for Joe, so happy that he got his mojo back with the Mescaleros.
Music can have no words at all and still be sincere, because it's an abstract language. I love the Clash but it's also fine to connect with music entirely viscerally, rather than filtering the meaning through your brain.
I think this might be the most interesting and highest quality, most intelligent music-industry 'indie' discussion recorded in the entire 1980's, It seems like it could almost be Nirvana and not The Clash. Sad I only found it in 2019.... But happy I found it all the same. Thank you for the upload. I now see Mr Strummer in a whole new light. BRAVO 🏆
Kurt was just starting music in 84; it's funny to think about the lack of integrity he's talking about the honest wave did indeed wash back over; Rejecting corpo label despite being on Geffen was the attitude
London Calling, to take an example, communicates to me, yes.. It communicates a great musical experience, with incredible voice performances and great adaptations. So yeah, music.. it IS the point, dear Joe, before any other meaning. But I love you.
Mick Jones was the music of the Clash. Fact! Joe had the lyrics but without the music, regardless or genre, you don’t have anything. See Cut the Crap. They seemed to avoid their own advice there.
I looked through the comments and didn't see it, but in the opening seconds of Big Audio Dynamite's "E=MC2", a voice can be heard saying 'I don't like music.' I often wondered who/what that is. It seems to be from this interview. Mick busting Joe's chops.
Well... yeah... he is sort of putting out his punk persona. But in reality you cannot make great songs and big hits to it as well, such as The Guns of Brixton or London Calling without any musical talent or will to do it. There were tens of thousands punk bands in the 70s, 80s but very few made such commercial success or popularity as the Clash. Also the punks had that attitude that it wasn't about the music at all, well it really was beacuse as soon as their music faded out of the youth, their influence and short seighted philosophies faded away as well, or morphed into sonething else.
He is both right and wrong at the same time. All music has a message, that includes metal. Grant it that not all of it is profound, but it's still communication.
“You’ve got to do a lot of work to even do any of your own thinking.” That revelation epitomizes Joe for me. This thought-for the 16-year-old kid I was in ‘78-radically changed my life. White Riot. Gates of the West. Armageddon Time. Cheers to you, Joe.
It's because it's embarrassing and not really the Clash. It's basically a Joe Strummer solo band. CTC was such a disaster I think they all just wanted to pretend it didn't happen.
I always wondered what happened to the Clash as they were so great and successful and rightfully so and now I know.....Guess that's why he died so young God bless him....
Part of what he said is so well said and some of it isn’t well said at all but the main message is still very intelligent way of thinking abt the clash and punk in general
Loved the music but in reality, the Clash were stage managed from beginning to end. They like all the rest are and were part of the entertainment complex. It really is all a load of bollox. The really rebels and misfits in this world are never written about, or remembered.
i suppose you have to make a living in a capitalist world, might as well do that and say what you think at the same time, i dunno more fun than working in a factory....its not that easy to live outside the system
Very accurate comment. End of the day. It’s all show business. If your music makes people want to dance, (Whatever the lyrical content is), kids will dance. Think you’ve got political power in your music? You’re a dreamer.
I always knew i was right about overproduction is the main symptom of capitalism that ruined music.. evrry genre! Country, rap metal, punk , etc etc@ excellent point joe!!!
You know Joe is great but he is full of himself here... Another cat that's got all the answers.. the list is endless... Just shut up and play your guitar.....
I like Joe Strummer less now hearing that he didn't like music if he was being sincere . What a prick, he made a great living and got famous playing "music" that people like me would kill to be able to do. I love music and would love to make a living playing it.
''I don't like music'' mick put it on the intro to E=MC2. Joe = talent is worth waiting for about mick jones later on after this didn't work you should have cut the Crap Joe and continued with Mick. big mistake all though I do love the Mescaleros see them twice both times where cheap tickets [in today's money like $65 dollars good seats] in Vancouver and then in Hull Yorkshire 2hours long at least he was talking to the audience asking people were there from and what life like there very inquisitive guy. RIP JOE you made the world think or at least you fucking tried. Gone way too soon it's true only the good do die young.
Topper's gone,mick Jones kicked out of his own band ??? This wonderful band was on its last legs !!!!! Topper was the engine room and jones was the soul along with joe ,,, shortly after this they all split ,,, that's why I said rebels without a cause,,, joe strummer with always be a rebel with a cause!!!!!! Passion is a fashion !!!!!!!!! The only band that matters, fukkin fantastic!!!!!!!!!! SANDINISTA 😉😎☺
Ah, fair play - thank you for clarifying. I agree, it wasn't the Clash without Mick & Topper. That said, Cut the Crap had quite a few gems (This is England, North and South, Three Card Trick) - it's a shame because I genuinely believe that it could have been one of their finest albums if Topper and Mick had still been involved at that point.
Ignore Alien Orders truth !!!!! This is England and three card trick are brilliant tracks and the memory's they left behind resonates even more now than back in 1977' 1982 timeless prophets !!!!!!!! Every band from 1983 to now have try,d to copy clash especially public enemy !!!!!!! Joe Paul Mick strummer will always be there ,cos that band helped alot of people through terrible timess back then !!!!!!! WE NEED THEM NOW ! SPANISH BOMB'S!!!!!!!!
Mick was not really part of the team at that point. He was in his "diva Stage" as Joe told it. Which went against everything they were supposed to stand for. The only thing he did with the band was live shows. He otherwise traveled & recorded separately. It took the four to be The Clash (properly). Personally, I think that was the magic.
Quality looks great for 1984!
Filmed by Nrk ( Norwegian national broadcasting )
Eivind Staal what camera was being used.
Sorry I don`t know
I thought it was in like 2000 or something
i thought it was yesterday
Joe: I can play all six strings, or none.
Paul: And I play four
Lmao
Arlene the Electric Bass 😂😂
He couldn't even play that, bless him ...
I love Paul lol
ahhahahahahahaha
hahaha, so spinal tap
"you gotta do a lot of work to even do any of your own thinking"
Amen
that was the most profound thing he said in the whole interview
I was a big clash fan but I must confess I walked out of the gig at Brixton academy with this line up. It was never the same after topper and then finally mick were sacked.
What you mean
How come they were sacked?
@@NattyBeGood I believe mick was very hard to work with, and topper was kicked pit because of addictions.
I've never noticed Joe's demon ears until now
Topper called him Woody because he thought he looked like woodywoodpecker (but he didn't know he'd previously been called Woody - after Guthrie)
Demon is right. Sold his birth right?? How empty is music. And who exactly are the muses???
Ha ha that's it now
Punk rock Elf
" There's a fine line between Clever and Stupid "
This was when the clash were falling apart around 1984-1986. Still the greatest band and the band that got me to play guitar and got me into music.
Got u into being a degenerate probably
Joe Strummer was a really smart thinking intelligent punk rock rebel man, god bless his soul, he knew music wasnt really about entertainment, it was about communication and a sense of understanding the world and fixing its problems. Plus Joe was a great tap dancer 5:15 😏😃💐💋🌈
sonic jet Love your comment.
You perfectly got the point of his speech.
thank you
Yes you say what I was thinking. I am happy to read your comment now.👍💖🎸
smart but naive
sonic jet really tap
"make-up music from England" hahahahahaha.
as3cs3 The Blitz Kids like Boy George or Steve Strange he’s referring to.
Erik Ruiz I love Culture Club so I agree.
The Clash as a brand and all of them fully aware of it. Joe and Paul knowing they need Mick and Topper back and the 3 "other" guys knowing their days are numbered.
Joe: Intorduces everyone but Paul.
Paul: All I see before me are familiar faces...
SUCH A GREAT PERSONALITY, IN A MOMENT DOMINATED BY A GREAT EGO! STILL I AGREE WITH THE MESSAGGE! LOVE JOE! APUNK ROCK WARLORD! FROM URUGUAY!
This man is the essence of punk rock! Great Joe Strummer! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
The true essence of punk rock is the man or woman breaking their rear end to make a living and feeding their family.....or a guitar player starving on the streets to put out a message.. that's punk
@@patriciagullickson2046 yeah,. Instead of privately educated elitist playing up for the camera. He's so far up his own fkn arse in this interview
Yeah, full of shit
The funny thing about strummer going off on america I'm so bored with the USA is that his biker greaser style couldn't be any more American!
@@wyverntheterrible yup gotta admit though his hair looked good on him
So ironic that Joe criticized "overproduction" right before allowing Bernie Rhodes to create that overproduced abomination known as CTC. Joe is one of my favorite people of all time, but he was way too far up his own arse during this period. As he himself would later admit.
It's not that good but it's not an abomination come on man
The Clash without Jones and Headon were good but nowhere near as good . Former Clash roadie Johnny Green went to a show and Strummer remarked that he was wearing a `crap suit` . Green replied `it`s not as crap as your band ` .Strummer just said `i know`. as you know doubt know he regretted sacking Topper and Mick . I reckon they (the classic line up ) could have made at least another one or maybe even two credible albums.
He tried, he got a bit lost but if you listen to what he said then he had a point. Really, this incarnation of The Clash should have been what the Mescaleros became. Joe had the right idea.
From The Clash to Combat Rock was a short time span ,i don`t think any groups could do that now. They were a 24 hour group . They had it all ,the songs the look the commitment. Sadly something as good as that can`t last .Although i reckon they could have maybe done at least one more `classic ` album with Jones.
Kerch Music the fact is once CTC was finished Joe learnt his mum was dieing of Cancer. He then took time out and in his absence Rhodes post produced the album and released it without Strummers approval. Joe never hear the album until it was already out.
Joe is talking up a good game but they were all at sea without Mick. Joe was such a great man and sad to see him entering his wilderness years here. So great he got his dues and mojo back before he passed. The fucking Clash man, never defeated, never bettered.
For me, some days it's The Clash, other days it's The Jam.
Age and nostalgia is what makes this profound.
It’s mostly bollocks in itself.
TRue.Love the Clash but Strummer could go on some rubbish tirades
"mostly"
The kind of random independence that made fools vote for Brexit
@@Jamesp1972 someone wants attention 👀
@@Jamesp1972 Yes such a sin to want to be independant
Prophetic words, what he said about music being overproduced to hide the fact tht there is no song there blew my mind, so so true it's unreal
Joe dropped some serious bombs, "1. you've been brainwashed since birth"
I love Joe Strummer ♥, so intelligent , well - spoken and independent charismatic leader of '70's Brit punk.
I love Joe but he's trying so hard to keep it going here knowing deep down that the band is done. He's spot on about a lot of things here but at the same time this is hard to watch. Especially with the "New" guys looking like they'd rather be anywhere else.
Well said. I think it must have been the lack of commitment and contributions from the other musicians, except for Paul.
I mean, I don't blame the new guys. This speech was very cringy, they were probably like ''oh hell, what the heck r u talking about''
The new guys didn't even know what to say because apparently Joe and Paul's ideas were ironic for them. Y'know, they were young and probably willing some money and fame. Joe and Paul already had that fame.
Give this man a podcast
For someone who 'doesnt like' music he was part of some of the catchiest tunes at the time ( or well at least for me )
He's talking a load of bollocks in this interview, the clash were all fantastic music obsessives as much as political activists
RIP Joe Strummer
once mick jones got canned it was over, he was the main contributor to the song writing and composition
New-wave pop / MTV era... The most creative New Wave was good, artistic, experimental & original and was related to the aesthetic ferment of fertile late-punk/postpunk period but he’s spot on about the ascendance of pop by then and the persistent corporatization of rock.
No,it already happened in the 70s with pop rock band like pink floyd,led zeppelin,fletwood mac and co,in fact punk was already a reaction to that,problem is that clash were not punk,they were pop rock.
The Clash is my all time favorite band! However, they stopped being The Clash the day Mick was gone. Such a tragedy!
I knew it was the end when Joe sacked Mick. I bought “Cut the Crap” anyway, but other than “This Is England,” I was disappointed. I’m happy for Mick as his brilliance as a lyricist and vocalist played out with BAD. Even some of his stuff with Carbon Silicon. As for Joe, so happy that he got his mojo back with the Mescaleros.
Joe, Mick, Paul an Topper that was The Clash . Once they lost Topper that was it the heart of the band was removed and both Joe and Mick knew that.
liked the Jam much better myself
@@greglyons2526 Me too mate but I really liked The Clash as well.
When I was 16 the Clash and Nathalie were the two most important things in my life
It's interesting to watch a musician do an interview when they know it's over.
Music can have no words at all and still be sincere, because it's an abstract language. I love the Clash but it's also fine to connect with music entirely viscerally, rather than filtering the meaning through your brain.
prodigalretrod listen to orion exactly
This was when the clash was breaking up and only joe strummer was left. Mick jones was the musical heart of the band, and he was fired.
Music can be interpreted million ways, and not one is the right way
"Know Your Rights" changed my life! Sadly in '84 i was 6 y/o... found The Clash through my punk/alt stage even as early as 13. RIP Joe Strummer
I think this might be the most interesting and highest quality, most intelligent music-industry 'indie' discussion recorded in the entire 1980's, It seems like it could almost be Nirvana and not The Clash. Sad I only found it in 2019.... But happy I found it all the same. Thank you for the upload. I now see Mr Strummer in a whole new light. BRAVO 🏆
Kurt was just starting music in 84; it's funny to think about the lack of integrity he's talking about the honest wave did indeed wash back over; Rejecting corpo label despite being on Geffen was the attitude
Very clean and precise way of thinking music should be… communication… love that period
London calling was the pinnacle. Joe Strummer the Clash King's. ☘️🇮🇪
what he say still stands today
That was way more intelligent than I was anticipating. I feel this has way more relevance now than it did back then.
And completely b*******t... He loves music... And he was part of the game too... That's why he's doing a damn interview !.…
It sounds like he's talking about the 2000's not the 1980s
God I love this man ❤️
London Calling, to take an example, communicates to me, yes.. It communicates a great musical experience, with incredible voice performances and great adaptations. So yeah, music.. it IS the point, dear Joe, before any other meaning. But I love you.
Mick Jones was the music of the Clash. Fact! Joe had the lyrics but without the music, regardless or genre, you don’t have anything.
See Cut the Crap. They seemed to avoid their own advice there.
Exactly. If you have a duty to communicate a message its never going to get across without putting the same effort into making the music great
All music communicates...even if Shareef don't like it.
I looked through the comments and didn't see it, but in the opening seconds of Big Audio Dynamite's "E=MC2", a voice can be heard saying 'I don't like music.' I often wondered who/what that is. It seems to be from this interview. Mick busting Joe's chops.
'I don't like music' is sampled from the movie Performance. It's Mick Jagger speaking.
“I don’t like music, I just like maxism.”
What's maxism?
When you try to say "marxism"
Take it to the max with maxism
Siouxsie said the same ..saying something with meaning to people who are listening 😀... R.I.P Joe
He can be glad that he doesnt need to suffer through modern pop music
So glad I was around back then! We had it too good!
The dire nature of Cut the Crap is certainly proof that Joe didn’t like music at this point.
I love original thinkers
"I don't like music" yeah, it shows
Well... yeah... he is sort of putting out his punk persona. But in reality you cannot make great songs and big hits to it as well, such as The Guns of Brixton or London Calling without any musical talent or will to do it. There were tens of thousands punk bands in the 70s, 80s but very few made such commercial success or popularity as the Clash. Also the punks had that attitude that it wasn't about the music at all, well it really was beacuse as soon as their music faded out of the youth, their influence and short seighted philosophies faded away as well, or morphed into sonething else.
He is both right and wrong at the same time. All music has a message, that includes metal. Grant it that not all of it is profound, but it's still communication.
"that includes metal". Because we know what great messages from pop or dance music.
Nah
Message from metal at the time: horror movies/war imagery
“You’ve got to do a lot of work to even do any of your own thinking.” That revelation epitomizes Joe for me. This thought-for the 16-year-old kid I was in ‘78-radically changed my life. White Riot. Gates of the West. Armageddon Time. Cheers to you, Joe.
JS totally changed my life too. My hero.
@@paulamiller6109 Cheers to that, mate. For me the same.
Interesting how this period gets airbrushed out of The Clash legacy
It's because it's embarrassing and not really the Clash. It's basically a Joe Strummer solo band. CTC was such a disaster I think they all just wanted to pretend it didn't happen.
...still missing you, Joe!
I always wondered what happened to the Clash as they were so great and successful and rightfully so and now I know.....Guess that's why he died so young God bless him....
Joe Strummer - surname says it all
His given name: John Mellor
In 2020 you look back and see that Strummer knew his shit in 1984.
Part of what he said is so well said and some of it isn’t well said at all but the main message is still very intelligent way of thinking abt the clash and punk in general
strummer is right on the mark
Please come back Joe 😘😘😘😘
Strummer didn't like music. It showed
As a new band I couldn't agree more. We have turned down 3 record contracts for this reason.
I cant watch this whole thing, it's too painful to see this train wreck leaving the station. Cut the Crap indeed.
The Clash turned into a boy band for that version.
I wish they’d made a record at this point that lived up to what they were trying to be about.
I LOVE Joe. But he's pretty wide of the mark for most of this interview, in my opinion. Don't judge him on this interview people.
The Music Revolution was blueprinted around this time.
7yrs later would be D-Day.
1991 Nirvana.
Then Music War lasted till 96
Loved the music but in reality, the Clash were stage managed from beginning to end. They like all the rest are and were part of the entertainment complex. It really is all a load of bollox. The really rebels and misfits in this world are never written about, or remembered.
prefered the Jam
Looks like a scene off spinal tap, pure delusion, but fair play to them, if this mindset actually helped them to do what they have.
i suppose you have to make a living in a capitalist world, might as well do that and say what you think at the same time, i dunno more fun than working in a factory....its not that easy to live outside the system
Very accurate comment. End of the day. It’s all show business. If your music makes people want to dance, (Whatever the lyrical content is), kids will dance. Think you’ve got political power in your music? You’re a dreamer.
There were real indipendent punk rock bands at the time,just not the clash.
The band that fell to every last cliche in the book.
Long live Joe strummer and the clash
I always knew i was right about overproduction is the main symptom of capitalism that ruined music.. evrry genre! Country, rap metal, punk , etc etc@ excellent point joe!!!
Miss you Joe
If music is not important, why they tried 200 drummers before finding the right one? Why Norman Watt-Roy played bass on their records?
Mick and Topper were in charge of the musicality of The Clash. Strummer and Simonon in charge of the attitude. In Cut the Crap we had no musicality.
The Clash was a band that was in the right place at the right time. Did Joe Strummer forget that if you want to get somewhere you need a vehicle? RIP.
he had the ears for the job.
Great anti show biz interview
he seems so wise
"We're going back to basics" than proceed to make an album that sounds like Cindi Lauper on steroids.
I think sometimes I don't really into communication when I do music, Joe... There is solitude all the time...
the man speaks the truth
God they were huge and beloved
I like it when my rockstars say stupid shit.
This hurts so much!
Joe's ears are comedians.
00:14 didn’t know willed dafoe was in the clash 😂
...."I miss this feeling"...
A whole lotta words 😊
Roxy Music was a great band no matter what Joe had to say
@Broekspijpje why do you say that? freemasons were originally a good thing not a bad thing..
@Broekspijpje AMORC? Good and bad everywhere... can't tarnish all freemasons with same brush, some do charity work etc..
You know Joe is great but he is full of himself here... Another cat that's got all the answers.. the list is endless... Just shut up and play your guitar.....
I never noticed this before but Strummer had elf ears. Loved Strummer, miss him.
Spot the three that were on a wage. Best advice to any band is to never break up a winning team.
Love the Clash, when Mick left band went into the ditch. Sounds like Joe was making this up as he went along
He was right about the brain washing though, give him some credit for that at least.
I like Joe Strummer less now hearing that he didn't like music if he was being sincere . What a prick, he made a great living and got famous playing "music" that people like me would kill to be able to do. I love music and would love to make a living playing it.
Music is not the point it’s the medium 😎✌️
He doesn’t like music, but he loves strumming.
Ladies and gentleman....
Literally the only band that matters
''I don't like music'' mick put it on the intro to E=MC2. Joe = talent is worth waiting for about mick jones later on after this didn't work you should have cut the Crap Joe and continued with Mick. big mistake all though I do love the Mescaleros see them twice both times where cheap tickets [in today's money like $65 dollars good seats] in Vancouver and then in Hull Yorkshire 2hours long at least he was talking to the audience asking people were there from and what life like there very inquisitive guy. RIP JOE you made the world think or at least you fucking tried. Gone way too soon it's true only the good do die young.
Joe Strummer had heart. McSorley's lacking at the moment.
Damn this guy flamed heavy metal i cant
He's obviously never heard Black Sabbath..Very intelligent music 👌
Music is the medium from which their sonic art is communicated, just as visual art on canvas or film
I wish I never watched this 😥
Topper's gone,mick Jones kicked out of his own band ??? This wonderful band was on its last legs !!!!! Topper was the engine room and jones was the soul along with joe ,,, shortly after this they all split ,,, that's why I said rebels without a cause,,, joe strummer with always be a rebel with a cause!!!!!! Passion is a fashion !!!!!!!!! The only band that matters, fukkin fantastic!!!!!!!!!! SANDINISTA 😉😎☺
Ah, fair play - thank you for clarifying. I agree, it wasn't the Clash without Mick & Topper. That said, Cut the Crap had quite a few gems (This is England, North and South, Three Card Trick) - it's a shame because I genuinely believe that it could have been one of their finest albums if Topper and Mick had still been involved at that point.
Ignore Alien Orders truth !!!!! This is England and three card trick are brilliant tracks and the memory's they left behind resonates even more now than back in 1977' 1982 timeless prophets !!!!!!!! Every band from 1983 to now have try,d to copy clash especially public enemy !!!!!!! Joe Paul Mick strummer will always be there ,cos that band helped alot of people through terrible timess back then !!!!!!! WE NEED THEM NOW ! SPANISH BOMB'S!!!!!!!!
Mick was a diva
Mick was not really part of the team at that point. He was in his "diva Stage" as Joe told it. Which went against everything they were supposed to stand for. The only thing he did with the band was live shows. He otherwise traveled & recorded separately. It took the four to be The Clash (properly). Personally, I think that was the magic.
@@simonedwards8888 CTC is awful. A few songs on it aren't bad but the production totally ruins them. It's just such a bloated ridiculous mess.