When the type 8s were brand new. This had to be in 1999 because the first of these cars arrived on MBTA property in that year. But in late 2007, the T contracted with Breda to deliver another 10 cars (3885-3894) and they had them put into service by December 2008. This brought the total number to 95 production cars and five spare shells stored at Orient Heights to possibly repair wreck rebuilds in the future. December 1, 2021: This means the first of these cars are 22 years old. Car 3869 was delivered in October 2004 and accepted in April 2005. 3867 was delivered in July 2003 and accepted in December 2003. On 12/31/03, the T announced that Breda had delivered only 30 cars of their 100-car order and it was more than 8.5 years after the formal NTP was issued on May 12, 1995. The last Type 8 car accepted before 2003 ended was 3867. A year later, however, only 46 cars were on MBTA premises and officials threatened or were forced to temporarily terminate their US$225 million deal with Breda to furnish 100 wheelchair accessible, low-floor No. 8 Green Line cars and their failed attempt to usher the Green Line into a new-state of user-friendly service and retire the aging and troublesome USSLRVs. They also threaded to cancel payments for the cars still to be delivered since it was more than 9.5 years after the NTP was issued. Brand-new type 8 car 3810 at government center, circa January 2000.
I like the shot at the end with the boeings leaving government center westbound and going around the sharp curve. I always loved government center’s set up and alignment on the upper green line level. Also, 3480 was coupled with 3485 and the trailing car was one of the two used for the final revenue boeing lrv run on 03/16/07. Thought that was kinda cool!!
The Type 7s, yes, as long as you don't try to take them over 45 mph (they develop an extreme oscillation problem by 50 mph -- probably the reason speeds have been limited to 42 mph even on the Riverside Lin in recent years). The Type 9s, not so much. From what one of the insiders told me, it sounds like they could turn out to be even worse than the Type 8s.
When the type 8s were brand new. This had to be in 1999 because the first of these cars arrived on MBTA property in that year. But in late 2007, the T contracted with Breda to deliver another 10 cars (3885-3894) and they had them put into service by December 2008. This brought the total number to 95 production cars and five spare shells stored at Orient Heights to possibly repair wreck rebuilds in the future.
December 1, 2021: This means the first of these cars are 22 years old. Car 3869 was delivered in October 2004 and accepted in April 2005. 3867 was delivered in July 2003 and accepted in December 2003. On 12/31/03, the T announced that Breda had delivered only 30 cars of their 100-car order and it was more than 8.5 years after the formal NTP was issued on May 12, 1995.
The last Type 8 car accepted before 2003 ended was 3867.
A year later, however, only 46 cars were on MBTA premises and officials threatened or were forced to temporarily terminate their US$225 million deal with Breda to furnish 100 wheelchair accessible, low-floor No. 8 Green Line cars and their failed attempt to usher the Green Line into a new-state of user-friendly service and retire the aging and troublesome USSLRVs. They also threaded to cancel payments for the cars still to be delivered since it was more than 9.5 years after the NTP was issued. Brand-new type 8 car 3810 at government center, circa January 2000.
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Man my dad grew up with the type 7 but got retired and now 2020 has the the type 8 going down as well
Its not retired
@@WHALEPSHIZZ I think he meant his dad retired.
I like the shot at the end with the boeings leaving government center westbound and going around the sharp curve. I always loved government center’s set up and alignment on the upper green line level. Also, 3480 was coupled with 3485 and the trailing car was one of the two used for the final revenue boeing lrv run on 03/16/07. Thought that was kinda cool!!
Thank you for finding this video, seeing when these trains especially the Type 8s when they were brand new.
Why the pause at 0:50?
The Type 7s are also based off the CLRV when the T leased 3 of them from TTC prior to coming up with their own design to replace the PCCs.
Some of the type 8s are 2006-2008 builds because those have to replace the 3400s Boeing LRV
The Type 8’s are totally unreliable. They derail WAAY too much and injure passengers. The Type 7’s and Type 9’s are much better.
The Car Wash Fanatic the type 8s were much nicer back then. The only Type 8 that looks nice today is 3891 and a few others out of service.
The Type 7s, yes, as long as you don't try to take them over 45 mph (they develop an extreme oscillation problem by 50 mph -- probably the reason speeds have been limited to 42 mph even on the Riverside Lin in recent years). The Type 9s, not so much. From what one of the insiders told me, it sounds like they could turn out to be even worse than the Type 8s.
The type 8s are junk.
@@OliversElevators they used to be better
Wonder what would have happened if MBTA had stuck with Kinki Sharyo and gotten what Newark (another trolley subway with tight curves and loops) got.
During that time, I would seek out the 7 and LRVs. Still today I will seek out a 7 then the 8s.
cool facts
That is rad!