Unlock 2X performance on H710P mini RAID controller | PowerEdge Tips
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- In this video, I'm going to show you guys how to unlock 2X PCIe bandwidth performance on your H710P mini RAID controller. There are 3 variants of the H710P mini RAID controller and of those 3, one of them is capable of PCIe 3.0 x8 and has the LSI SAS2208 Rev D1 chipset. That one is Dell P/N 0TY8F9. The other 2 variants are Dell P/N 0TTVVV and 0N3V6G and these only support PCIe 2.0 x8 and use the older LSI SAS2208 Rev B0 chipset. So, if you want to enable PCIe 3.0, be sure you have the TY8F9 part.
In this video, at 12:09, I show exactly how to enable PCIe 3.0 for the H710P mini. After that, I boot into the OS to confirm that the controller is indeed running at PCIe 3.0 speeds.
Here's a summary of the Dell PERC H710P part numbers:
- Dell P/N 0TTVVV - H710P mini monolithic Rev B0 (PCIe 2.0)
- Dell P/N 0N3V6G - H710P mini monolithic Rev B0 (PCIe 2.0)
- Dell P/N 0TY8F9 - H710P mini monolithic Rev D1 (PCIe 3.0) (find it on eBay: ebay.to/3O1fQZd)
Need a mini monolithic controller with IT mode firmware?:
- Dell H710 mini (P/N: 5CT6D Rev D1, PCIe 3.0) with IT mode firmware: ebay.to/30y3krQ
- Dell H310 mini with IT mode firmware: ebay.to/3l7hjhC
Need help choosing between the 2 options above? See this video: • Choosing HBA IT mode f...
Timestamps:
1:17 - Discussion about variants of the H710P mini monolithic RAID controllers
3:54 - The 3 variants of the H710P and their part numbers
8:16 - Installing the H710P (TY8F9) in my R720XD
9:33 - Verifying H710P is running in PCIe 2.0 x8 mode
12:09 - Entering system setup menu to enable PCIe 3.0 speeds
14:42 - Verifying H710P is now running in PCIe 3.0 x8 mode
16:30 - Wrap up
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Thank you for sharing. Setting the link speed to PCIe 3.0 x8 even works for the H710 mini on a R720 which came with PCIe 2.0 as default.
Yes, only with the 5CT6D H710 mini.
Thanks for that I'll be checking out the raid controller in my r720 now
Hope it helps! :-)
Thanks for sharing this... Had extra capacity I never knew of =) SAS SSD's can really saturate the bus.
That's awesome! Glad this helped! :-)
REALLY useful! Thank YOU! GREAT find!
Glad it was helpful!
Just did this on my R620s. Thank you for the video.
Glad this helped!
Excellent video! I'll be changing this on my 720xd without the flashed controller! Thank you
Glad to help! Make sure to check that you have the correct P/N on your H710P card.
Wow. Another informative video from Art of Server! Thank you. This worked for me as well. However the DP/N for my H710 Mini is: 05CT6D (Long version: CN-05CT6D-75435-2CP-09AG-A00)
Glad this helped! Yes, 5CT6D is the other part that is PCIe 3.0 capable. However, if you're going to use hardware RAID, get the H710P with the P/N I mentioned in this video. That one has more cache, supports FastPath feature for higher IOPS when using SSDs, etc. It's overall a better RAID controller for this generation of server.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support!
NICE! Mine had the correct one :D
Nice!
Thanks for such a great video! I need a H810 and I wanted to know do you know what is the Dell part number of the H810 that is the D1 revision?
Sorry, don't know the Dell P/N for that.
thanks for the information you put in these videos, does this card work with older generations poweredge servers ?
Thanks! Unfortunately, no... this generation of mini monolithic cards only lasted 1 generation so they will only fit 12th gen servers like the R720, R720XD, R620, R520, R420 and R320. (not R820)
Specs for the full H710 is PCIe Gen2.0 ... to get 16 disks going, adding a PERCH330 would do the trick, but I believe there are cheaper options... which one would recommend to match the H710P Gen3.0 card? LSI9311, 9341, 9300 ??
The goal is to have 16 DAS disks for ZFS in a R720 ( 2x 8 SFF backplane ).
And keep up the good work 😀
H330 mini is not available for 12th gen Dell servers. This H710P/H710 Mini is specifically for 12th gen only. And you can get PCIe 3.0 if you have the P/N mentioned in this video and follow this procedure. Honestly, the SAS3008 generation of HBAs are only useful if you plan to use SAS-3 SSDs, and even then there's not enough PCIe bandwidth until the gen4 cards like 9500 series.
@@ArtofServer I meant using the H710P mini P/N 5CT6D + H330 Full PCIe card (P/N 4Y5H1).
The H710P mini P/N 5CT6D is gen3.0 capable. The H710 PCie card is described as gen2.0 .
I meant to ask which Full PCIe card would be enough to match the H710P mini P/N 5CT6D to get a 16-disk setup.
H330 (P/N 4Y5H1) is somewhat expensive for a HomeLab in Brazil.😬
I'll have to check if my r520 has that h710 you are talking about, when i come back from holidays
Good luck! :-)
Hi, Very interesting.... Does this Gen2/Gen3 problem exist for the full size H710P cards as well? thanks, Matt
I don't think so. I think the PCIe card versions just behave like normal PCIe cards and negotiate link speed to the highest level mutually possible. I honestly don't know why Dell disabled the PCIe 3.0 ability by default for these specific H710/H710P cards. I wonder if they were planning to sell a "license key" to enable the extra PCIe performance but didn't happen?
I found a post that someone put a H730P into a T620 and that card has 2G of ram and runs at PCIe gen3 speeds, so I might do that. The only problem is that idrac doesn't report the backplane properly, but they said everything else worked. @@ArtofServer
0TY8F9 with IT firmware ( without BIOS ) works at 8GT/s ( PCIe3.0 ) without the need to enter device configuration ( there isn't one, since there's no BIOS ). Backplane signaling is working fine... any reason I should put the BIOS back ? And I chose LSI9217-8i ( DELL 0GTP9G ) for the second backplane since it is PICe3.0 and accepts IT firmware 😁
This video is only for those who are using this card with original Dell MegaRAID firmware. If you are using IT mode firmware, this doesn't apply.
Works for a T420 too, if anyone is wondering......
I need to break down and get all mine switched out if I don't decide to go to R730's
You run a lot of H710P mini cards? They are still very useful today if keeping with HDDs, or with 6Gbps SSDs.
@@ArtofServer yeah I'm still exclusively R720 for my servers. The Ryzen 5 5600G is doing great for video editing so probably won't bother to upgrade anymore. The current setup can saturate 4Gbe. I've actually had some moments where I have needed that speed. Most the time they are overkill nas boxes though.
Very informative video thanks, however HW Raid in 2023 is considered a bad practice in most strorage solutions.
Although I'm a ZFS user for many years, and that is what I prefer, I don't think HW RAID is bad practice. I think people should use whatever works best for their situation. I know of many very large organizations that still use HW RAID and it meets their needs just fine. I also know many organizations and individuals that use ZFS and it meets their needs just fine. There's a different solution to different needs, and that's a very good thing to have variety.
Can you put hx30s in dell 12 gen?
No, totally different connector type.
Does this apply to H710P in IT mode?
No, it doesn't. With LSI IT mode firmware, it is always negotiated to the fastest link speed.
This won't destroy my raid I already have configured will it?
No, it will not. Just changes the PCIe bus link speed.
@@ArtofServer Thank you for the response! Love your videos!
LOL, dropped soft-RAID crap and went back to Hardware RAID, not a single issue. Great speeds and no stress or screwing around.
Yeah, software based RAID technologies are not for everyone. What did you use and what kind of problems did you run into?
@@ArtofServer Done to whole ZFS with FreeNAS, Proxmox and a few other flavours, PITA basically. Used Windows Storage Spaces for years but it was slow and useless with troubleshooting. Running LSI based RAID now without any issues and they work with my DAS chassis just fine. 60+ drives, no failures since going back to HW.
@@bentheguru4986 it's the server's memory that makes ZFS work (L1ARC). Recommended minimum is 16 GB but I think this will only work for small storage-only setups. If you want to run VMs and/or kubernetes you need more RAM for better performance. And if you have 60+ drives, then you need even more memory (~1GB per 1TB) and if you are using SSDs then it should be minimum PCIE 3.0 with matching RAID/HBA controller (12Gbps) to make it work.
Hw raid is dead since at least 3 4 years is now considered a bad practice in most storage solutions.
Use the proper system and software raid is 1000 time superior than HW raid
@@blender_wiki That's your opinion, not fact. HW still going strong and works. Hate to be a client of yours (if you actually have them) who is paying you to set it up and manage that storage.
@ArtofServer in case you are interested in checking this in the terminal:
> megacli -AdpAllInfo -a0 | grep ChipRevision
>> ChipRevision : D1
Thanks for sharing that! yes, I was aware you can get that information from megacli64.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! :-)