Ten Hag or Klopp : Who Inherited a WORSE Squad? 👀 | Saturday Social ft Paul Machin & Flex
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Smithy and Joe are joined by Paul Machin and Flex this week on Saturday Social. Ahead of their clash on Monday Night Football, we take a look at Man Utd & Liverpool’s squads, and how Man Utd could replicate the success Klopp has had.
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It's clearly Klopp. Ten Haag doesn't have a bad squad just no leadership and a terrible mentality
So the two most important things in sport. Gary Neville is an example of a player with average talent but incredible leadership and mentality, look where he got
@@shadibrahim1489 Henderson also
@@shadibrahim1489 player for player this United team is far superior
@@JoeMc811. I don’t care about “player for player” or “on paper”. A terrible mentality and no leadership results in the worst Utd squad in Prem history
@@JoeMc811. I completely agree. Klopp inherited an absolutely horrific team with the exception of Coutinho, Henderson, Origi and Lovren.
In terms of quality.. Klopp clearly inherited a much worse squad than united..
But in terms of attitude, work rate and mentality, even that Liverpool squad will absolutely batter this united squad in a match and win comfortably..
Okay stop joking
@@MannyXN is he? Brentford can clap us 4-0 that side was decent.
@@MannyXN he's right
@@MannyXN I think he’s right, Norwich last season nearly beat us we needed a Herculean effort by ronaldo to win
"Mentality" lol it was midtabble mentality
Cheers for having me on the show again! Klopp DEFO inherited a weaker squad on paper, but he did have Henderson, Milner and Lallana who all had brilliant mentality to build a motivated group, and some magic in Firmino, Coutinho and Sturridge.
100 percent
Score predictions for Monday fella?
I’m going 3-1 Liverpool, just got a feeling it’s going to to be another game where we blow them out the water
Who are you?
Are you for real? I have more respect for Klopp because he had Jordan Henderson, he’s is absolutely terrible. Any young player who wants to be pro just look at him if he can make it anybody can
@@ryangrundy4945 you got a feeling? If you don't defeat man utd 4-0 its over for liverpool mate.
This video clearly screams out how desperately United needed Ragnick as a Sporting Director, Instead of putting in Murtough/Fletcher the club desperately needs a structure and a recruitment strategy!
@@TheRealSlimsagey7 Agree 110% it's a shame the club upper management don't want to see this, as it is abundantly clear to the fans.
he embarrassed himself as the coach and you think moving him up would have been a rational step...based on hi experience directing Big Club Feeder like Red Bull? and some club in Russia 😭😂
@@tellall23 He should not have been given the job as a coach, but He is proven to set up football structures and the evidence is the Red Bull group, there has to be a reason why they always keep finding the best young prospects. It just makes no sense getting rid of a guy before he even gets to perform the role he is best suited for.
@@adanhamza5360
First of all stop comparing feeder club like Red Bull to United. Feeder Club all purpose is to develop young players and sell them while competing in MUCH LESS competitive league. Please save me that "structure" stuff nonsense. "That Red Bull structure" would be playing in the CHAMPIONSHIP League if not league 1, in England. We will keep going after the best young prospects like Jude Bellingham
@@tellall23 bruh what????? They placed second in the bundesliga a few seasons ago. They would easily be top 6
Ten Hag inherited a team having Ronaldo, Varane, Bruno etc.. Klopp inherited a team with even the old Gerrard had retired and Coutinho was the only hope
Klopp had a team with not many big names and not a lot of amazing talent. Ten Hag inherited a team with mentality issues. Two complete different challenges which can’t be compared
We’d be dominating if we had a Gerrard type player in midfield now
and firmino
Man you are saying that ten hag got prime varane and Ronaldo and in form bruno of covid 💀💀
@@footballchannel8430 Firmino was held back thanks to Rodgers though. He himself has said his confidence was low before Klopp came in. Read the stuff Rodgers had to say about Firmino to get an understanding.
On paper? Klopp without a doubt, a mid table side by the time he arrived (reflected in early results).
But Ten Hag comes into a mentally devastated side with seemingly no cohesion and massive unrest within the dressing room.
Very different challenges.
No it’s quite similar, that Liverpool team when Klopp came had no mentality either
I agree
@@LoyalFan9383 but the club had a motivation to fix it, i don’t think united does. that makes fixing mentality even more difficult
@@LoyalFan9383 they're not similar. This United squad was expected to mount a respectable title challenge last season. Klopp's inherited squad was expected to finish in Europa League places in a league won by Leicester.
@@LoyalFan9383 well Liverpool doesn't have the ego of a lot of star player united have. So it's different challenges. If ur not a star and a star manager come u shut up and follow the manager. But if star manager comes too star player then it's different strategy the manager need to do. Well all in all the mentality, spirit and unrest behind the scene need to be straightened.
This isn’t Erik Ten Hag’s fault it’s the fault of the useless players and the Utd hierarchy. I actually really feel sorry for him because this wasn’t what he expected would happen and you can see he’s already aged and looks fragile it’s sad to see but credit to the guy for coming out and doing the interview with Gary Neville and Jamie Charagher. There were some tough questions but atleast he was direct with his reply so much respects to him. If Klopp and Arteta got time then the same should applies to ETH.
I agree with you
Keep respecting him when United gets relegated too🤣
If that interview was with Solskjaer they would have asked him questions what he had for breakfest and about 99, ah ye and ofc what a good defender Maguire is...
So give him 3 years then
if u havent kept in touch with utd the last 5 years then i'd feel sorry for him but we all know its a mess
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@Benjamin Benjamin ur mother dropped you when you were born
@Benjamin Benjamin Mate, it weren't funny the first time.
@Benjamin Benjamin This has to be for attention 😂
Mate you should get out more lol
Klopp had James milner on the wing in his first game... 😭 We were literally a mid table level team when he came in
Pep was playing Kolarov at CB when he arrived yet everybody was saying he inherited a world class team....
@@Brandon-nq7ys because he did they were winning and they had a bunch of money to spend anyway
@@Brandon-nq7ys they were winning everything back then as well
he still has milner...
@@dibils And? It's his job to replace him and yet he hasn't done that. Don't try and make out like he's stuck with him😂😂
Liverpool's was worse hence why it was easier for the owner and the fans to accept reality that their team need total revamp, meanwhile at United some people still clinging their hope on the likes of De Gea, Rashford, and Ronaldo.
That liverpool team vs this united team. Man united will be beaten very easily because the problems are more in the mind and in attitude, which is why this is the worst squad
Liverpool have also had the best scouting team in the world for many years now. They work with data analysis and know how to use it. United's leadership are clueless and no manager in the world would be able to fix that club until the people in charge are changed.
@@leface30 Oh yeah?
Liverpool at the time didn’t have the greatest player on there team and there best goalkeeper in there club history on there team🤣 don’t try to compare those things together
I think the story is pretty simple. Klopp's team was simply much worse on paper but.....
The players that klopp inherited were passionate and ready to learn. And that was evident from their first game with Spurs.
United on the other hand...... on paper they could be title contenders but are actually relegation contenders because their mentality is rotten to the core. The dressing room is in shambles and their players are grossly underperforming.
In a match between klopps side and ten hags side, I guess klopps side would win
@@jamiehale4078 bro I am so shocked at this result. As a united fan I couldn't be happier. I dunno how ten hag pulled this off.
The squad Klopp inherited included an aging Martin Skrtel, Kolo Toure, Àdàm Bogdàn, a past his prime Jose Enrique, Christian Benteke, Mamadou Sakho, Alberto Moreno and Nathaniel Clyne. It's Klopp by a mile.
On paper it's klopp. But in terms of mentality it's Ten Hag
Liverpools mentality had been crushed by Rogers klopp had to build it back up
@@abdulraheem468 but it's nowhere near as toxic as man utds rn
@@abdulraheem468 you dont get it, that liverpool team can beat this united team just like any team can the mentality is in the ground
@@mshah6835 that’s not just it though united squad is worth a billion but Liverpool had a worse squad ur teams just trash and it’s embarrassing spending that much and still struggling small team
Klopp. No question
As a city fan, btw
@@jacobmurphy423 look at the state of liverpools squad when klopp took over. Hardly any decent players, Coutinho was the only one
Klopp had very less expectation from both the fans and the club hierarchy when he came in. And the signings he made clearly showed that he had limited budget but was a better fit for his progression aswell. ManUtd fans know that the club has a lot of money to spend if it wants to, so that is also an added pressure on top of all the other mess that’s already there. The signing of players like Malacia, who for me is probably the best signing this summer, is probably a better way to move forward. Fans need to be patient and the progress will show
Fans need to back off and let the process happen instead of trying to fix it with short term solutions like getting a new manager every other year
got to have good relations character. nothing else works
26 odd years since Liverpool had won the league title so I’m not sure Klopp had expectations. Ten Hags expectations are to stop a sinking ship and get top 4 in the next few years, any expectations higher than that are delusional
Skrtel was an absolute unit! He scored more goals than the entire man utd squad On his own 😂
Yes own goals
I loved Skrtel. Can’t remember what year it was (2012/13 maybe), but I think he scored 6 or 7.
20:00 they all laughed when Flex said that but it turned out to be true - in football anything can happen.
Klopp had the worse squad on paper but ten hag has a much bigger challenge because united are in a much worse state with so many things needing to be fixed
@Benjamin Benjamin ??? Klopp spent no where near a billion, you talking about pep here 😂
@Benjamin Benjamin 1 billion? LOL where does Liverpool get money from? Your mother's "business"?
One inherited a squad worth £200 million and the other inherited a squad worth a billion
On paper, Klopp's squad is worse, but the most important aspects of a team in football is the mentality and attitude, which United's squad have zero. of. SAF proved you can win trophies with average players like Anderson, Phil Jones etc. but only if your squad has the right attitude and mentality and work rate.
There is a big difference between 2015 premier league and current one. Mid table teams are way stronger than they were in 2015.premier leaugue is much harder now
The question is who inherited the worse squad, not when the league was harder
@Benjamin Benjamin they've been to three UCL finals. Ten Hag's won a trophy that Bournemouth could win. He's unproven.
@Benjamin Benjamin at least klopp didn't lose his hair babysitting Ronaldo and co
@Benjamin Benjamin He's underrated. 2 of the 3 titles he hasn't won, he only lost by a point, has been very competitive in the other competitions. Guardiola has a better squad on paper, yet has only made it to one UCL final, and City often gets complacent in cup competitions.
This Man Utd squad is far more superior than the squad Klopp inherited in terms of individual talent. Difference is that this Man Utd squad has given up and there are still a lot of bad eggs in the team. Klopp was able to keep players like Lallana, Firmino and Origi after joining is that they had the determination to fight. I think that there's almost no Man Utd players that have that atm. Ten Hag needs to get rid of pretty much the whole lot before we can talk about silverware.
Liverpools squad cost about £10.50 and a mars bar and Man U costs the entire gdp of western africa. It’s not a debate
Looking at Ten Hag's first Man Utd team I don't think it's as bad as Klopp's first team, but I really do believe in five years time people will look at Dalot, Maguire, McTominay, Fred, possibly Martinez and Eriksen in the same way we now look at Lallana, Lucas and Moreno
Lallana was class. He just had an injury problem
Why include Eriksen there ? He's actually a proven class player already
Not suggesting ten Hag's squad isn't better *on paper* but the trend certainly is to consciously underrate LFC players whenever it suits a certain narrative.
Two seasons before Klopp came, Liverpool finished 2nd with 84 points. Season before, 6th with 62.
Two seasons before ten Hag came, United finished 2nd with 74 points. Season before, 6th with 58.
Come on now.
@@vespasiancloscan7077 Liverpool had Gerrard, sterling, suarez and a fit sturridge the season they came second. The squad was drastically different and weaker by the time Klopp arrived. United came second and added Varane, sancho and Ronaldo. There is a major difference and it's crazy seeing united fans denying it.
Ten Hag’s current United squad has a higher ceiling with the talented players they have, but Klopp’s first Liverpool squad had a much sturdier floor and didn’t fall to bits on the pitch the minute they made a mistake.
you literally did not watch that liverpool side clearly. they were conceding 3 goals a game, had the menatlity of a flip flop
Anything about windows and doors?
How is this even a question? Liverpool had not won a trophy for almost 10 years when Klopp came and their squad was valued less than 100m. Almost no international players and he turned them all into world beaters.
What you on about we won the league cup in 2011 before klopp came in?
@@Dan-gd6di None of them were playing for their national team except for Mignolet who was a backup keeper
Well, one thing for sure is Klopp managed to get the players to respect him, he won the players & fans heart almost immediately despite joining 1/4 of the season.. cause he has an amazing man management skills, skills that people seem to overlook a lot.
Idk about Ten Hag, but it felt like he wanted to show he's in control, like not allowing Ronaldo to leave (creating more dressing room problem before the season even started), but it just didn't work out yet...
We'll see though, it's still early in the season.
Our greatest mistake in the last ten years was letting Ralf Ragnick leave. That was the greatest signing we will have made, as a sporting director. One of the he best in the world, with first hand experience of the squad at hand.
he is well known as the guy who rebuilds teams from ground up..... and we fired him
his recent famous work was RB Leipzig
MU chances for early revival collapse when the fans and board backed pogba instead of Jose.
Our greatest mistake was hiring him 😂 was clueless, had no bottle to drop players who wouldn't do what he wanted them to. Should've just paid the money and got ten hag mid season
but unfortunately Ten Hag didn't like Ragnick
@@magikarpsplashy ok, and see what is happening with Ten Hag himself.
According to Neville, Ronado was not value for money or has played well enough to earn his price... same guy that said the whole team is not good enough for Ronaldo???. I trust Neville as a pundit as much as a him as a manager. He's living in a delluded world where he thinks Man Utd have a right to be in Europe for the last 6 years. The answer is obvious: sell everyone and pray for survival in the prem for one year, then build from there with players who actually want to stay there.
Bloody hell, seeing Flex without his cap on is weird! 😄
That’s not flex, it’s his brother
I feel Sadio for only 30 mil was a steal for the production we got then to sell him for a profit several years later. Just an amazing player through and through.
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thankyou Liverpool for giving klopp contract,keeping them at 1 title less is beautiful, thankyou klopp, sign the contract, liverpool are back!!! 😂😂😭😭😭
LUIS SUAREZ WAS UNDERRATED
Luis Suarez in 2013-14 is the best player Premier League has ever had. He carried a team that was very similar to that Klopp team himself. The season he left that exact team went from 2nd (barely missed on winning it all) to a mid table club. Same exact team pretty much that even added players. He was a 1 man wrecking crew. Never seen a defense as bad compete for a title as 2013-14 Liverpool. In 2014-15 Gerrard got exposed and they lost 6-1 to Stoke. Suarez elevated others. Wothiut Suarez Sturrige and Sterling reverted back to being average players
On paper, of course Klopp did. However, the lack of confidence and cohesion that Man Utd currently have can not be quantified.
Klopp inherited a lesser technically gifted squad, but Ten Hag has absolutely inherited a MUCH worse situation.
What kind of question is that? It's Klopp. By a mile
klopp inherited a worse squad compared to utd's current squad but relative to the standard of the pl today compared to the standard of the pl in 2015, ten hag has inherited a relatively worse squad
The fact the highest paid player on that first Klopp team was Milner, coming in as a League winner, full international and on a free, compared to the salaries in that Ten Haag team! Sancho came in higher than ANY Liverpool player ever! What does that do to a player's hunger to perform?!?!
Not even a debate, Klopp took on a far worse squad in quality and it had less depth. It took Klopp 5 transfer windows to make the team his own with arguably a 100% hit rate. ETH has no chance to turn this squad around within the same period. Klopp flushed the deadwood out quietly along the process. United have countless big wages players who don’t suit ETH system and have little or no value in transfer fee’s. I can’t see many players willing to move on for a pay cut so I expect another season or two of contract expiries
Bro this isn't even a question. In terms of quality that manu squad is much better than the squad Klopp inherited
one major factor you didn't consider is the standard of the Premier league in general in comparison to 2015. only now do you need 90+ points to be even in contention for the title when it was completely different beforehand.
edit: also neville and cara's traffic light signings is a joke. I could pinpoint about 10 issues bit one of the main ones for me was maguire and lindelof. Maguire was put as Amber, Lindelof was put as Red. Lindelof was 27.5m Maguire was 79m, both have performed on similar levels throughout the time they've been here yet were of significantly different valuations. Lindelof also won trophies at utd whereas Maguire captained our side to our worst ever points tally as well as numerous +4-0 batterings. prime example of English media protecting English players.
Easily Klopp inherited the worse team. Man had Joe Allen counter pressing 🤣
You cannot compare those two teams. Klopps squad was far worse by miles
but they would beat this united team just like any team can because they are weak mentally and its still the worst in united history
Only real ones know how good sturridge was as a st for liver pool
Klopp came through the season and didn’t even have a chance to bring in any players, man United boss purchased some of those players and ha da pre season with the.
Klopp, and he didn't have instant millions like others did, he did an unreal job and implementing his heavy metal football mentality throughout the club first
I’m a united fan but klopp definitely had a worse squad ability wise but the mentality of the united players is worse than that first Liverpool team under klopp.
People go on about 'philosophy' but tbh under ferguson there wasnt much philosophy... The philosophy was winning.... Fergie's teams would often be open tactically, gaps everywhere and change tactics weekly... Its a mental thing....Fergie & Klopp make signings look good... They get them motivated... Put Klopp in charge of United in 2015 with exactly the same signings and there would be a much different tune.
Yeah its a mentality that isn't just needed for the players but the people inside the club too
I'm a united fan and Klopp by far inherited a worse squad. Even though both squads finished 2nd a year before the new manager came in, Klopps squad was terrible. United squad is horrible too, but the people aren't only saying United wasn't as bad because of the money they spent, they have players that were class at other clubs. But tbh Liverpools current eleven would flop at United so would city
why is this even a debate? only coutinho would get into united's current squad
I'll say this:
Liverpool fans had little hope going into that season and were ridiculed by rival fans.
Man U fans, rival fans and pundits thought they were a lock for top 4.
Ten Haag got a pre-season. Whereas Klopp didn't.
Man U had signficantly more in comparsion. Klopp's job was far harder. Not forgetting it has been far from smooth sailing under FSG too.
100% Klopp. Liverpool had 0 Champions League winners on squad. Ten Haag has Ronaldo and Verane. Liverpool had Simon Mignelet whereas United have De Gea. The only thing Liverpool had better was a better culture.
Can’t compare simply by looking at ability. Klopps main issue was a lack of quality and United’s issue is systemic failure at the club and a shocking mentality from a number of selfish players who won’t play as a team. Different issues that are impossible to compare.
Ridiculous question. The United squad for all it's failings is packed full of quality players that cost a lot of money. Fernandes, Varane, De Gea, Martial, Rashford, Cavani and others all really good players. Klopp inherited a couple of good players and lots of mediocre players. There is no comparison. As others have already pointed out, there was a better collective mentality at Liverpool.
"A good manager with a good philosophy" wow as if they did not have that before. Not a fan of United but had they given time to some of the mangers they had before at least as mich as Arsenal gave Arteta, or Liverpool to Klopp, who knows what might have happened.
@Agora Jose, LVG, Ralf all were excellent managers and had proven their mettle or had gone on to do so. Jose was happy to be let go, LVG and Moyes both felt they needed more time and Ragnick had a vision but got stuck in the quagmire of MU's upper management pushing off a proper rebuild. TH has a monumental task, and I'm assuming he's just playing them as is for now to get a feel for their weak points in competitive play
The more money given to a manager to improve the squad, the less time they have to improve the squad. Time is money.
Less money more time.
It's all very logical really.
Amazing this is a conversation. Klopp had a pub team when he took over and took them to a Europa league final. ManU coming off a season where they added Varane, Sancho and CR7. Man give Klopp Rashford, he’d turn him into a player
As a united fan Klopp 100% inherited the worse squad. But Liverpool were patient with him and trusted him
I would love to see a reaction video to this! It’s amazing to see tube fans that are clearly good at what they do, still have no understanding of football and faith!
I watch some videos but don’t subscribe to any of their channels by the on purpose!
Liverpool had 1 top class player in that lineup in Coutinho - who they had to sell to fund a rebuild. Firmino and Henderson were around though.
lets not forget that henderson was still treated as a joke back then
Henderson back then was mediocre he wasn’t good until after
@@tofuteh2348 well... Because he was
Liverpool were worse but they competed for a title way sooner than united did 👀
Depends how you look at it.
The individual players that Klopp inherited were worse than what Ten Hag has yet they were more of a squad.
Ten Hag has brilliant individual players but as a unit they're horrific. It isn't really fair to judge either way
United just won three matches. One against struggling liverpool. And two against mid and low teams. They will finish below 6 this season.
The one player that Klopp would have missed out on..had it not been for Michael Edwards, would have been Mo. He wanted Julian Brandt, etc. Brendan Rodgers wanted Mo but Jose called Mo up and convinced him to come to Chelsea.
Makes me wonder, what would happen if Mo had came in 2013.....he would not have played for Totti...but he would have played with Stevie, Coutinho and Sturridge, Lallana, etc much earlier. And would he have survived Klopp's rebuild.....🥺😬
That would have been so weird!
Would Rodgers have been sacked for Klopp to take over 🤔
If chelsea didn't offer Salah more money. Rodgers also wanted Diego Costa aswell.
ManUre have net spent 6x what Liverpool have over the past five years.
It's not even a question ffs. 😂😂😂
People don’t talk about the fact that completion back then was not like now. Now every other club is challenging for top6.There is Newcastle, Aston Vila,Brighton,westham giving completion to those big 6.6 years ago that was not there.Competition now is completely different.
Poor ten Haag, had to inherit a sqaud that cost half a billion to assemble.
Does this even need a debate???
Ten haag inherited cr7
Cr7 and a whole squad of shite with a disgusting mentality and attitude
Also inherited Rashford Maguire Dalot Shaw mctominay etc.
First time seeing flex without a hat 🧢 lol
Recruitment? Those same players under Ole would have flopped. The reason those players LFC bought delivered is Klopp.
United have the most expensive prem team ever, Liverpool had rickie lambert
Think this is an unfair comparison because it's not that simple. Klopp inherited a worse squad on paper I'd say but it also wasn't as toxic & disconnected as this United squad.
No need to compare to Klopp, look at how much time Arteta has been given. Because it was clear he has a philosophy and is moulding the club in his image, he's just lacked the personnel to see it through consistently enough so far. That's what Ten Haag has to prove, the results don't matter.
So weird seeing Flex without his cap xD
Manchester United used to buy players for their skills and ability who would then go on to have great football careers. Now Manchester United buy players who have already had great football careers but not the same skills and ability.
how is this comparable... klopp inherited a squad that is barely good enough to get 6th. while ManU had a squad who apparently were expected to challenge for the title last season. this narrative is fraudulent.
Who said that United were challenging for the title last season? Pretty sure most people said it was between City and Liverpool, and the rest were saying Chelsea.
@@jakew7982 at the beginning of the season when united bought Varane sancho and Ronaldo and added them to a team that finished 2nd the season before. Liverpool were written off after only buying 1 cb. People were saying Liverpool would be fighting for top 4. Chelsea were many peoples pick to win the league and united and city were touted as contenders aswell.
Ten Hag inherited better footballers but Klopp inherited A better football Squad
People need to remember Arsenal lost their first 3 last year and finished 5th. It’s not good for United but no need to be at complete panic stations. Let Ten Haag do his job and judge at Christmas
There will be no judging at Christmas this manager needs 2/3 seasons
or we will fall so much down the table that we might get relegated for an year and then the Glazers will have to sell the club for 2b not 5 as they ask cause the stock markets is at 2b
But 2/3 of arsenal’s games were almost guaranteed defeats
Chelsea and city, they shouldn’t have lost to brentford either
Utd have lost 2 winnable games in brighton and brentford, very different situations, utd have no cohesion and the players don’t really care
Arteta changed the team after those games. Gabriel came back from injury and he replaced Leno after a bad start. Ten hag can't replace martinez and de gea
But United should not be losing to Brighton and Brentford those our winnable games
Never did get why Man Utd fans say ‘he needs time but will he get it’. Apart from Moyes pretty much every manager has had three seasons at the club.
Now I know why Flex always got a hat on
Erik ten hag is coming into a harder situation but has better players in use
Arteta also had a bad squad, but its never spoken about
Agenda against us bro, tete won a trophy first year and even though finished 8th back to back it was by 6 and 10pts, united finished 13pts off T4 and were still predicted to do as well as us my most pundits its laughable - you just gotta ignore it
United need to remember when Fergie first came in, how they treated him and his wife until they started to win things....fickle football fans!!!!
Is this even a question🤦🏾♂️ Klopp inherited Lucas leiva and Christian benteke while ten hag has cr7 sancho Bruno varane de gea etc. Don’t try sympathise the fact that united are washed up
Ten hag’s squad were winning the league a year ago, this isn’t even a debate
Ten Hag's squad would come last place in the MLS. Klopp inherited some decent pieces.
LMAO
Klopp.
Man utd has ronaldo, sancho, loads of young players, de gea and fernandes
The squad Klopp inherited was willing to learn and improve, i remember the first game against spurs and you could see the difference straight away. This united team just seem rotten.
This aged well.
@@jakew7982 its one game mate, you won ONE game.
what voodoo magic Maguire does? how its possible he is AMBER, he is called still great player....like what the actual f**
Klopp inherited the worse squad quality wise. But all the players backed him and actually had the will to play good football.I don't think that's the case at Utd now.
Lol.... no he didnt, this united squad is worse than what klopp had
@@Cyrus-rodn45 Fair opinion, but Klopp didn't have Ronaldo, Varane, Rashford, Bruno etc. these are all quality players they're just so disconnected and have zero chemistry at the moment.
The best player Klopp had at the time of his arrival was a young Coutinho. All the other players were bang average.
@@almedindemic2240 those are name, what have they done since being there. None of them has contributed. Thats like saying klopp had coutinho, sturridge, Henderson, lallana, etc. Don't look at names but the actual cohesion and you will see klopp had a better team. United seems to be getting worse
why is maguire an amber and pogba a red lol... both the same price but atleast pogba won stuff.. whats maguire done apart from make the defence worse
Klopp inherited a worse squad. Ten hag inherited a worse club
Facts
How is this even a question? Liverpools squad back then was shocking, utd have sancho, bruno, ronaldo, varane, de gea etc. Like look at the state of that Liverpool squad
Yeah but as well as looking at the players, you have to consider the mindset of those players and the attitude. Liverpool’s team back then is worse on paper, yes. But United’s team is worse in terms of attitude and wanting to improve, klopp found it slightly easier to move forward with the team. Ten hag needs to get rid of a few of those first team players before he can move forward
Liverpool were still ok at anfield against big teams.
Don't remember them losing 5-0 at home to United.
They did lose 6-1 to Stoke
@@wesley9154 wasn't that before klopp
@@896t5 Yes, last game of the prior season they just mailed it in.
The squad klopp inherited was way worse than the United squad Eth has inherited, all have to say is United still have world class players like ronaldo, varane, Bruno (pure ability he’s world class the stats don’t lie), Liverpools best player when he joined was Adam Lallana/coutihno (who wasn’t as good as he was when left no where near as good) , playing a defence of skrtel and sakho that’s all I should have to say 🤣 only reason I think people will say Uniteds is worse is cuz Liverpool got to the europa final and league cup final but this inherited United is 10x better than that Liverpool team
Klopp had a worse squad but the mentality and attitude of these United players is a major issue for Ten Hag and is something Klopp has never had to deal with at Liverpool. As bad as they were, they always gave their all
Deluded, some of those Liverpool players had a seriously mentality problem before Klopp, he just improved it immediately because he’s a far better man manager than Ten Hag is
@@jackmonaghan834 yh klopp is magic,
Never had to deal with?
We had balotelli don't say he's a mentality monster 😂
Not even watching this video cause it is a stupid idea. Klopp clearly and by far inherited a worse squad. ETH started with Ronaldo still a top 5 player, Sancho all the potential in the world, Varane multiple time UCL winner, De Gea one of the best GK the PL has ever had. Embarrassing debate
has to be Klopp
Is that even a debate its Klopp easy. Ten Haag has Ronaldo where as we had Benteke 🤣🤣
Comparing a team with skertel and minolet to a team with Varane , Sancho, rashford a team that took a billion plus to assemble 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Klopp inherited a far worse team than ETH. Let's be honest. Imagine coaching the likes of Jordon Ibe, Benteke, Lovren, Mignolet etc 😂😂
How is this even a question? Ten Hag inherited Ronaldo and Klopp inherited Origi as the main attacker star
But Ronaldo doesn’t want to be there…it’s not that simple!
@@GIBBO4182 Doesnt want to be there yet he has to play his best
@@rabbittko1421 ?? Didn’t even do pre season training!
Ten hag has eriksen and casemiro
Klopp had mark grujic and jay spearing
@@GIBBO4182 When he's playing tho he has to play his best.
It helped Klopp that he didn't have stars or club legends in his squad, he could bench or sell whoever he wanted. I have maintaned that if United fix their midfield, they will be back, Casemiro is a nice start, expensive band aid but he will improve squad immensely, I do think they need another midfielder, someone in Tony Kroos or probably more like Jordan Henderson mode, someone that will run, recycle the ball, be an outlet and progressive passer.