Honda HR-V e:HEV ’22 highway 100km/h / 60mph w cruise control & lane assist
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2023
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All new Honda's has CVT as far I know. What do you think about this transmission overall? I've read a lot of articles that says it is worst than eCVT and more faulty-possible, and that is very costly to fix.
These Honda’s have no transmission.
Engine is mostly generator, while electric motor drive wheels. Engine drives wheels directly without transmission on certain speeds. Idea is to run engine only on optimum load conditions.
I haven’t got any issues and haven’t heard anyone had any issues.
How is the consumption when you drive on speeds on 100 / 110 / 120km/h? On this video it looks like you got a consumption of 5.8 on 100km/h? I drive alot of highway around speeds from 70-90km/h daily. But on roadtrips the highest i go is 130km/h. Does the battery kick in on highways too or is it only on lower speeds?
Battery is been used on all speeds (except direct drive situations), but less with higher speed. Power is send to wheels (depending slightly on overall driving speeds) by electric motor approx. 90% of time. There is no gearbox. Engine is always operated as close as possible to optimum load (not charging, charging less or more to bring engine load close to optimum).
Most of time engine seems to be operating under good moderate load (similar sounding that I have preferred to use petrol only cars engine).
Direct drive (engine) is been used around 80km/h, depending on engine load.
Lowest I have been able to drive direct drive is about 60km/h, but there was a bit snow (therefore higher engine load). Highest I have been able to use direct drive is 100km/h for now at least, with completely flat road.
I'm getting approx 5 liters on this drive / video, ranging from 4.7 to 5.4 depending on hills. This is after consumption evening out (longer drive).
At speeds of 100km/h battery is still been used surprisingly much...I mean I was surprised it is used this much.
I don't have video for driving 110km/h, but I was getting about 5.8 liters with bit of snow and wind and 6.2...6.4 on a quite lot of snow and high winds on a longer drive.
Battery is still been used, but bit less. Battery charging and use cycle seems shorter. Also supported by the indication battery level is kept lower...like 1/3 to 1/4.
120km/h rises consumption to around 6.5 liters, could be more...I don't have yet longer drive test on that. At summer I can test 120km/h and 130km/h.
@@jonibeebeesplaytime thanks for your reply. Im from Sweden and looking in to the Honda HRV but im driving on alot of highway so in trying to se if its worth it for me since i have no place to charge a Plugin hybrid. Most of the time i drive on roads from 70-80 km/h. But i also do some long drives on the weekend where i drive around 120-130km/h for a total amount of 157kilometers. Ofc during work i drive in the city so im kinda curious if its worth it for me or if i should still be going for a petrol car.
I had similar situation when I was looking for new car and decided on HR-V.
I was considering EV, because actually I would had have option for charging place at apartment parking area, but few issues;
- half of time someone else uses it (illegally)(I could call tow for these cars, but I want to have parking when I come from work...sometimes very late. Especially I' paying for parking and additional charge for charging).
- pricing of charging seems to vary on demand on this charging company. First you need to have contract and pay small fee for that, and then charging will cost on demand. Overall cost is quite uncertain and I didn't want to have this additional stress as well as limited range stress. Most likely running costs are still cheaper than petrol or (non plug-in) hybrid though...purchase cost is higher of course.
I have been comparing to consumption results with friends and colleagues with plug-in hybrids. Since plug-in hybrids weight more, consumption of plug-in hybrids when batteries are empty or on highway usually is bit more to quite a bit more than "self charging" hybrid. Also compared to EV, plug-in hybrids have very small usable battery and similar price. Plug-in hybrids also have highest maintenance costs of all other types.
Of course, correctly used plug-in hybrid is quite economical (more economical to use than "self charging" hybrid, but less economical than EV) to use and is always the most flexible option.
So plug-in hybrid has all the pro's and con's off all types.
Petrol cars also still makes lot of sense in highway (and other than city) use.
Before when I drove about daily 50km highway to work and same back a day, my previous car Renault Talisman was very economical. Looking back now; If I had HR-V that time, I would get slightly higher consumption on highway with 110-120km/h, but overall consumption would be same, since I still did grocery shopping etc. at (small) city...therefore initial purchase cost would be only difference.
Based on my testing, HR-V e:HEV is best (for consumption) at speeds up to about 80km/h. Even driving from traffic lights to traffic lights result on quite low consumption...but lowest consumption I get with speeds between 40 and 70km/h (stops or no stops, doesent matter much). I tested before; same distance drive (from same location to same place, different route) 80km/h (4.8 liter) on higway and suburban's 40-50km/h (3.8 liter).
Difficult to estimate of course, but I think you might have overall smaller consumption in your situation. Worth of initial purchase costs?...it depends on your situation.
Could you please tell me how you find this car in generally?! I live in mountain zone where there's snow as well and most of all I'm worried about the consumption of fuel and how this car can go up hills thanks
In general its good winter car. I was expecting it to be quite good in winter driving, but it was even bit better. Of course it is only 2WD…front wheel drive, so cannot compare to real always on AWD. I had Subaru XV ’12 2.0i petrol years ago, that went anywhere, mud, snow…but fuel consumption was high, double triple compared to HR-V e:HEV.
No mountains here, but so far I havent got any problems climbing hills or driving less good condition farside roads.
Since slow speed drive is always by electric motor, it helps a lot with slippery hills…power delivery is much smoother than petrol only car, so its easy to keep traction.
Ground clearance is quite high, approx 180mm. I havent got proplem with ground clearance yet. My previous previous Subaru XV had 220mm ground clearance and never had issues with that. My previous Renault Talisman had just 140mm ground clearance, which is quite good for regular sedan…a once or twice a year I had problem with it with bottoming out on heavy snow and needing showeling…few times tricky steering on heavy snow since bottoming out, but didnt go stuck.
Also HR-V e:HEV doesent seems to struckle as much pulling out from car park with heavy snow as Renault Talisman did…smooth power delivery helps here too.
Fuel consumption stays resonable on snowy roads, similar or sligtly less consumption compared to same size petrol car.
Hill descent control is nice addition.
In some regions there is available 4WD version of HR-V e:HEV, but not here.
Not sure how that one is to drive, but having experience of 2WD, 4WD and real always on AWD/4WD cars…2WD car is manageble during winter. 4WD helps a bit pulling from stand still, but sometimes good 2WD is as good or better. Always on AWD/4WD is much better on snow and real off road, but most of time its bit over kill…and consumption is always much higher.
As summary, really pleased with HR-V e:HEV’s winter performance. And its nice to drive. I enjoyed driving on snow with Subaru XV and I enjoy driving with HR-V e:HEV.
But I do recommend test driving yourself, if you have a chance.
@@jonibeebeesplaytime thank you so much for your accurate answer..I will make a test drive sooner, best regards Lorenzo
You’re welcome. Enjoy your test drive! If possible, try to make bit longer test drive and dont be discoursged by short term consumption…that can be higher on hybrids
Nice video. Do you often drive in D or B mode?
Thank you. I drive in D mode. I only tested B mode few times initially.
On D mode energy recoup adjustment (with paddles) stays on for current deceleration and on B mode stays on untill car is shut off.
Initially I preferred B mode, but once I got used on D mode, I prefer D mode.
For me, at least during winter its nicer to always try to find maximum energy recoup for every corner road conditions.
I noticed, despite what energy recoup is used…if road is too slippery for chosen energy recoup setting, car seems to lower it immediately to keep traction on wheels. It is quite subtle effect, I didnt notice it intially. I think this is good and important feature.
Hi, I’m editing video at the moment, will be ready for next wednesday. I was not able to film everything as planned, but I wanted to release video eitherway since I’ll be busy with lot of things soon. Hopefully video will show a bit differences between modes and demonstrate that, one pedal driving can be used with both modes for about 80-90% of time, on D mode especially by using paddles. This is how I drive daily. I have lot of other videos been edited and scheduled for now too…
What do you think of the sound isolation, road noise and ride comfort in the highway?
Soubd wise A bit mixed bag.
Overall I think sound isolation is quite good. After day or two I didnt pay any attention to it…never sounds bad.
There is less sound dampening matting than some other premium cars have, doors are bit more light…it is not comparable to German premium cars for sure. One of the readons why it weighs less and is therefore more fuel efficient. And on highway it is bit louder than Renault Talisman, which had quite a lot sound dampening matting and laminated windows.
But I think overall desing of shapes etc. is good. There is some noise from wheel arches, which is common with higher ground clearance…difficult to isolate it. But unless asphalt is very rough, noise is not that noticable.
So overall, not best sound isolation…could be better with more sound dampening matting…but would weight more then.
For driving just on highway, not the optimum car option. But still good car for highway.
Confort on highway on is really good. Suspendion is confortable. Car is stable. Steering is nice, lighter but precise. Seats are soft enough but supportative enough. No lumbar adjustment and tigh adjustment, but fits me well. Not too short tigh support for most people I think. Visibilty is really good. Also driver aids are really good, helps a lot on long drive.
Overall really relaxing to drive on highway.
I recently drove approx 600km in a day on highway…it was relaxing and nice.
I wonder if you can get some aftermarket mats etc that would help sound deadening. Seem pointless to have a Bose system (comes with uk Advance model) if road noise intrusive.
@@clewis5220 Not sure, havent checked those. But I was commenting what noise can be heard without using audio system. When I listen music while driving, audio level is 4 or 5…rarely 6 if want loud. So, road noise is not an issue in my opinion. Music really dont have to compete with tire noise, even if its not the quietst car.
That premium audio of (here Advance style model) sure would have been nice. Middle level audio of Advanced model is surprisingly good. No subwoofer of course and no additional discant speakers. Antenna is really good, gets clear signal…much better than my previous cars
@Jonibeebees playtime hi, are you thinking about doing the anticorossion protection of the chassis? There are multiple reports on forum that hondas are corroding on the suspension parts and the chassis after few months already. Japanese cars are known for the lack of anticorossion protection but newest hondas are practically bare metal sheets in the chassis
@@hisspwn4290 I didnt plan to make. But I’ll check underside when I’ll change to summer tires. It will be probably mid summer this year, because of planned business trips. I try to make video of under side of HR-V after first winter. They use a lot…as in really a lot of salt on roads here during winter. Thanks for comments.
Nice winter view. Where is it? US?
Thank you. Finland. Going from South Finland to middle Finland. Was nice weather that morning and most of day. Later in afternoon snow strom hit 😅
Sometimes I watch UA-cam videos filmed in certain parts of USA and think…it looks exactly like Finland. If there are no mountains 😄
Would you recommend this car. What has been your average fuel consumption?
Yes, I would. Good car for 2 - 4 persons. Long term consumption is around 5.2 to 5.4 liters, I have quite a lot very short (from store to store) and highway driving. On city, suburban and bigger roads (less than 120…100km/h) consumption is much less, about 4 (even under)
Why is it so loud? 100km/h and the wind noise feels like you driving 160km/h, really bad sound proof
It is mostly tire noise, not wind noise. You can hear passing car clearly. Sound comes mostly from wheel arches. Road surfaces are rough in Finland due studded tired been used, soil frost damage. Only few areas here with smooth asphalt, there car sound very quiet. But still, not best sound proof, not worst either. But, definetly weakest point in this car.
@@jonibeebeesplaytime thanks for your reply mate, still awesome car I agree, enjoy it
@@hisspwn4290 Thanks for commenting mate. Good to have opinions, observensions and questions to have good discussion 👍