@@elnicedude559...yup it sure is a wake-up call when they realize not everyone on the planet lives in a 24/7 rainbow-colored, glitter-blizzard, diversity-unicorn-riding carnival...
Wait-it's "foolish" to stay together for only half a year?? If you can't wait for someone you supposedly love, or keep it in your pants, why even bother dating?
A lot can change in half a year but men and women who are really in love wait a lifetime. My friend went to Vietnam...he had joined the army for four yrs. He came back to the open arms of his boyfriend....we went to meet him at the airport and his boyfriend ran into his arms it was tge awesomest sight a gay person can see and experience TRUE LOVE....
Joseph but remember that his "boyfriend" was back in San Francisco with his head spinning 24/7 from all the gays hanging from trees begging to be picked...talk about "low-hanging fruit"...this fellow meant well but his "partner" was too busy squeezing the fruit to see if they were ripe enough for him...sad, but very common in today's "love the one you're with" cheap culture'...it obviously hurt him a lot, but perhaps he learned from the experience...20 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too young to hang the "Just Married" ribbons on the Prius Hybrid bumper in the Bay Area....think about this...there is a reason birds don't build their nexts on high-voltage power lines...let that sink-in...
I went from Seattle to Morocco (mainly Rabat) as a young gay man in highschool. Let's just say I didn't make it a topic of discussion. But one of the tour guides on my study abroad was gay. Had a partner and everything, but he was rich and his partner was from Europe. And he wasn't very vocal about it. It was just a fact. I loved the little bit of Arabic in the beginning. Modern standard Arabic not really Moroccan dialect.
As a Morrocan Muslim young woman, all I can say is that our people, like any other country / community, can be very accepting of your gender or sexual idendity, but you can also find hostile people which is a problem caused by their lack of knowledge.
Next door in Algeria the story is very different. Gay people are criminals there and police will often look the other way when a lynch mob comes to kill you for being gay. Luckily my boyfriend's family were able to leave the country as refugees otherwise he would never be able to live openly without the threat of violence and a prison sentence. His one brother is still a fundamentalist who believes that my boyfriend should be executed for his sexuality.
Moroccan immigrants here in the Netherlands are so aggressive, and racist, they don’t hesitate to beat up indigenous Dutch Gay and Lesbians on the street in these people their own country and are not ashamed of it. Needless to say they are hated by now. All their ‘community’ accusingly says is: We, Moroccans, are being stigmatized. Perpetrators playing the victim. Grosse.
Actually Morocco is not in the Middle east ... it's in the west North Africa, and if you've been in Casablanca or other big cities it would've been less complicated for you ... there are even clubs for LGBT community in Casablanca i'm Morocccan and i have many gay friends ... and LGBT community have started to stand up for their rights here the start is always hard ... but humanity always win .. greetings from Morocco
long distance relationships are extremely hard, on the way to the airport till on the plane i was crying, we would skype daily and talk on the phone for hours, he had a difficult time with the seperation, when he is on fire, i have to act as water to keep the peace, i was practically counting the days and telling him i would be there for his birthday, when i finally arrived i was surprised to see him at the airport with my mom in tow so we must have been the talk of the town that day because we hugged for what would seem an eternity with tears rolling down my cheeks.
What a story. You must always stay close to that family. I am still so close to my exchange family in France. We cannot wait to visit Morocco. Thank you for sharing this story.
The comments at the end that of this story about this non acceptance of being gay "not being necessarily bad or good" and 'there's no qualitative judgments to be made on other cultures"... it's just a different world that LBGT and queer people live in" is a vivid example of the thinking that flows from multiculturalism - that one culture is as good as another regardless of how they treat human rights, etc. It's nonsense. Try telling that to human beings that are being harassed, tortured, and murdered because they are gay in these other cultures. Acceptance of these practices regardless of the culture they exist in is morally wrong. We're faced with a huge struggle in the world today between the forces of modernity and forces that want to retain traditions, etc.,that violate the basic human rights of people. Much of the world has come a long way in stopping violence against children, women, gays, etc., However half of the world is still stuck in the past. To accept these practices, whether they arise from the culture ,tradition, religion, etc., and make no qualitative judgments about them is to suggests that their OK and supports things staying as they are. Do we really want that?
I soo don't agree. Our gay rights movement happened like 50 years ago, and most of us in the West are very very privileged. Places like morocco have had their country taken from them from Westerners. they don't have a good relationship with the west. we have to stop this colonizing attitude and let countries be autonomous and have their own gay role models, gay liberation movement (that is not white-washed and suited to their own lives). I used to feel similar to you, especially having middle eastern ancestry that I did not identify with. I thought the remedy was simple...but taking away traditions and identities is not the answer, it'll just make them hate us more. we need to be accepting of all people and by our fabulousness and acceptingness, people will see how being lgbt is okay. we also can't compromise and throw certain people in our group under the bus (like trans folk and people who don't fit the heteronormative mould)
alltsem "we have to stop this colonizing attitude and let countries be autonomous and have their own gay role models, gay liberation movement" THESE COUNTRIES WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN. THEY KILL OR IMPRISON THESE PEOPLE.
the rise of islam orthodoxy is in many instances a recent phenomenon -- not out of tradition but out of contempt for the West. Like in Iran things were pretty liberal and they had economic prosperity...but their pro-western government was replaced by an anti-western theocracy. and I see this too with Israel's pinkwashing...they claim to be more progressive and liberal in order to steal land and control palestinians. So we're trying to help but really just imposing ourselves instead of actually helping them. I'm not an expert in this topic at all, this is just my opinion, but I think if you explore the academic literature you'll find similar commentary
alltsem That sounds more like other nations scapegoating, and making excuses for not socially evolving. (I don't think any nation is excused from such behavior in the present and past, by the way. USA and other 'western' nations have done plenty of it.)
yeah i picked up on that as well. he was using his language study to justify sex tourismus. not judging, but it's so obvious the way he talks about morocco being in the middle east when it's so not, the grandmother bringing him food...he gets some leniency because he learned the language before he went at least. he is just so priviledged, and was not nearly as heartbroken as he states. he went to the morroccan baths and was consoled. trust.
@@ianjones7488 0:50..."because I was moving to the Middle East." That's his exact words. Some people here are reacting not only because it's geographically imprecise but there are broader--slightly racist--implications in the way that he is flattening geopolitical differences. It's really not all the same. They speak Arabic. But they are not in The Middle East.
I hate it when he says he isn't making a qualitive judgement on other cultures and that it is neither good or bad. For goodness sake if you can be put to death for being gay I think you have the right to say that this is bad. I have refused to visit any Muslim countries for exactly this reason.
... what? Very cute, but about what he said at the end, there is *very* definitively a qualitative judgement to be made about the life of lgbt folks in different cultures. "Very bad" and "horrible" sometimes apply.
Not all aspects of the culture in Morocco are bad, but certainly that element of the culture is bad. I find a lot of bad things in my own culture, and I see no reason why I should suspend judgment for other cultures.
Bravo for respecting and appreciating your host family so much. You are bringing up another important issue here. Not to be fully there, where you actually are. It can be very frustrating for the people you live with, if you are not fully present. Like talking to a person who will not take a brake writing text messages or checking FB.
Your story is cute, I remember when I went to morocco the first time lol they were trying to speak egyptian to me because some how they thought it was closer to english or easier for me to understand but it was not.
I hope you are well if/when you get this short note, but please know that you have done many young men a huge favor by making your video...you are so very right about Americans not having any idea what life is like outside of the obsessively-PC, rainbow-colored fantasy-land they inhabit in the West, especially in the US and even more so in over-the-top gay ghettoes like San Francisco, where there are no limits to personal comportment anywhere or anytime. There really is another world out there that is NOT accepting and it is a wise man who recognizes that...thank you again.
I grew up in countries like Morocco, and I think when people are at risk of being beaten (or worse) for their orientation, religion, et cetera, then there are judgments that can be made.
The part of the story with the little old lady bringing him food was sweet and everything but why on earth would any LGBT person go to a country where it’s illegal to be gay? It’s not worth it whether you’re going for a lovely vacation, or to experience the culture or anything. People take foreign law too lightly. In Morocco the country he went to just two years ago a lesbian couple who were tourists were arrested when someone found out they kissed while taking a photo! Same thing with Dubai (in UAE, by Iran). Yes it has resorts & skyscrapers but if a woman is raped she gets arrested for sex outside of marriage. Literally that’s happens. One woman, an Australian tourist was arrested after she was drugged, raped and beaten by three men. She was sentenced to one year in prison & she was an Australian citizen! Some men who were “cross dressing” or wearing drag in their private, hotel rooms were arrested. A British man was arrested for accidentally brushing past another man in a crowded bar. These countries aren’t safe for a lot of straight individuals let alone LGBT tourists. When in doubt google the countries laws. If it’s not safe, there are a ton of other beautiful countries to choose from. The worlds a big, beautiful place. Just use good judgment. 👍🏻🙂✌🏼
Morocco is an amazing country. It may not be legal technically to be lgbtq but the people seem pretty accepting in person there. My French got me by in Morocco. School only.gave us 3 months of Arabic before the trip compared to my 3 semester of French I already had. So I couldn't get the Arabic to stick to memory that fast.
correct your information , it is not illegal to be gay in morocoo , wich means if you re outed that dosnt mean that you will go to jail.... there are people who came out to the media , but they never had a problem ......you will go to jail ,if there is evidence that you have been in a gay SEXUAL reliationdhip
Nothing to with the video, but I was at the checkout in a local store having previously bought oranges from the market. The cashier could smell the it's he's and said "You've got Moroccan oranges!". I looked, and yes, they were Moroccan. She said "Ah, they are from my home, I always recognise them".
there are so many gays morroco ! there are bars and clubs and most of them are fine with homosexuality , as long as you don't throw it in people's faces it's fine . the family will have known he was gay.
+Paul Monks not that much still people are fundamentally hostile to the idea of being gay ( to the point that there were a protest just last week , against the conviction of two homophobes who has done an infraction , beaten and humiliated the two homosexuals by taking them out naked in the street , the population there was all okay with homophobe and beating part , just not okay with two people being gay and being intimate in their very own private house ) homosexuals are jailed frequently in the country , sometimes at the mere exhibit of feminine traits or a photo of hands together ( kissing be it for gays or straights is forbidden all the same , you do it on public , you'll be in trouble especially with people ready to call police at the first exhibit of any kind of affection no latter how small it is on public !!
He needs to continue that trail of thought as to different cultures not necessarily being bad or good, just different. For example, in the south when there’s homophobia, that’s not really a bad thing, that’s just their culture. When there’s slavery in the middle east, that’s just a cultural difference. When they’re beheading gay men, that’s just our intolerance for not respecting their way of life.
And before people try to explain it away or say I am mistaken: He says it at 0:50..."because I was moving to the Middle East." That's his exact words. Some people here who have objected to the geographical sloppiness are reacting not only because it's geographically imprecise but there are broader--slightly racist--implications in the way that he is flattening geopolitical differences. It's really not all the same. They speak Arabic. But they are not in The Middle East.
I can't quite see what the point of this is. You went to another country, your boyfriend dumped you, and your hosts in the country where you were staying were kind to you and comforted you. What more did you expect of them?
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Dennis...it may seem "unnecessary" to you if you are content to never leave your zip-code, but this fellow was very brave to enter into a culture that he decided he needed to experience for his personal long-term goals, where he knew ahead of time that he needed to alter his public comportment for the sake of surviving alive...we often have to make decisions for a greater good that may not feel so good in the immediate term...it's called delayed gratification and exercising wise judgement...not everyone lives on a 24-hour carousel of self-delusion and indulgence like in the West.
Interesting that he views the decision to try and stay together as the mistake and not that they couldn’t keep it together for a mere 6 months. No tea no shade but girl.
It's may be for people who speak Arabic with dialects, but it isn't correct grammatically. You either say "Ana ....... then your name " or "Ismee .....name " ....
Malcolm Al-Haj Dude I am a nativr speaker. It is possible to say Ana ismee, but you wouldnt usually say that because ismee is enough. Its the same in spanish where you can say 'yo soy' or 'soy' for 'I am'.
Not thats its the main part of the story but he keeps going on about "the Middle East". Morocco is in Africa... Specifically, straight across from Spain. Over the Straits of Gibralta. Quite far from the actual Middle East. 🤔🤔 How much research did he do?? Lol
Culturally, most of Morocco is extremely middle eastern. They speak Arabic, they practise Islam (mostly). (The traditional Berbers are North African/Maghreb in culture)
This is a common mistake especially for Americans who think that everything "Arab" is "Middle Eastern"...the 2 areas have HUGE overlap linguistically, culturally, ethnically and racially because North African "Arabs" are descended in part from Middle Eastern invasions centuries ago...think of it this way...Americans are more like the English in language, culture and values than they are with Indigenous Native Americans...
This child man is very confused Morocco has never been in the middle east and unless we have a major recon figuring of the plant is not likely to be. Morocco is and has been since the 1900 a gay mecca it had a lot of gay men, not open but its gay,
***** I have met gays who can be homophobic in views just because your Gay does not mean you do not have contradictory views so there put that in what ever my be your ass and think about it.
***** Now your aggressive attack on me is making you look very silly. I've been dealing with these type of o individuals for 20+ years in my professional working life , believe me both words are interchangeable they describe the same type behaviour the individual is seeking or have sexual relation with an individual under age. Both word drive from the same Greek language. both words describe and adfult having or actively seeking relations with an individual the underage of consent. I understand the etymology of pedophile and pederast, both mean child lover. Is there a difference in their connotation? So please don't attack somebody's education when you do not know the person I spent many hours in courts using the same language describe same person please you're just looking foolish now.
+eldadevata lets put some things straight here: 1. Moroccan boys do not *get* fucked - they are paid to fuck the guys that offer them money. 2. If you are a single male on holiday in Morocco, you will be harassed from morning till night by boys (and men) who want to have sex with you for money. There are no victims in this game!
***** Dont be so judgemental about being primitive. That may be part of their culture - so what??? There are way to few top gay men around in any case - what is your problem?? People can define themselves as they like - gay or not gay. In Turkish you are either a giver or a taker - the word 'gay' does not feature and they are all cool with that. Why are you offended that Muslim men are prone to be tops? Everyone is free to decide what sexual activity he or she wants to partake in. Why cant we just leave it as 'same gender sex' ? Some do it, some dont and that way no one has problems
It is quite clear that you have absolutely no first hand experience regarding men who engage homosexual sexual acts within oriental (muslim) countries and even clearer that you are mixing political gay issues and traditional male-male sexual activity (or even gender reassignment, which in many Muslim countries has also been part of the traditional and political structures). Trying to force the Muslim world into stream lining their society with ideals and values of the west has been one of the cardinal failures of the late 20th and 21st century and constant failed attempts to change their political and social structures is just going to worsen life quality in every aspect of the world. The fact that people like you think that you have all the answers is actually the root of the problems.
+keith Newton Not really . I have a Morrocan friend who was beaten up by his father and kicked out of the house when he came out and moved to London thanks to his Belgium nationality, for many years, mother and sisters were forbidden to see him, his mother had to find an excuse to travel to Brussels where they have relatives to meet in secret
Yes I understand this but this is the same in most Muslim nations and Islamic communities. For goodness sacknit happens all the time in bible belt USA. I have just come back from Morroco as a Western person my homosexuality was not questioned nor did anyone say or do anything negative to me My Morrocan friends it's different for them it derpoends on there family's position on homosexuality and there wealth.local have to be careful it could end with them in prison loosing there job and thge family disowning them how ever I met a lot of couple whilst there what goies on behind there front door is there business, they drink alcohol, in fact Morocco has some very good vineyards and some very drinkable wines. But I never once had to hide my sexuality. I was discriminated for being disabled alot of Morrocan had huge issue with my disability than anything else particular when I told them to talk to me not my carer I can tell you what I want .
We are not soft Islam we are aware that without tourism we can’t beat up Spain ! We are conservatives and very judgmental I’m talking about my tribe in case someone tells me to not generalize…
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going from Sna Francisco to Morocco that's quite a 180° degree change for a gay person.
Going from San Francisco anywhere is 100somthing degree change for a gay person. Ok outside few big western cities.
@@elnicedude559...yup it sure is a wake-up call when they realize not everyone on the planet lives in a 24/7 rainbow-colored, glitter-blizzard, diversity-unicorn-riding carnival...
yaeh true i live in morocco and im gay and it's sooooooo hared
@@moroccanstyle9774 some random straight stereotypical moroccan person:so u have chosen ur death
glad to hear that you liked the culture here , but at the end we still have to hide in here :/
Morocco is beautiful. Alot of closeted rich men run things. Too bad they don't help country become more progressive.
Geographically speaking Morocco is in North Africa/the Maghreb
But white race. So Europeans cannot be racist against Moroccans
yerbamatedude I literally came here to write this lol
Me too. I was like... Did he just call it the middle east?
He did say North Africa, I heard him.
Val-schaeffer who said they were white, Europeans definitely know them on sight to discriminate against them.
Jesus man, Morocco is not in the middle-east.
Americans are so bad at geography...
He did not say that. Listen again.
What a sweet story; thanks for sharing! 🙏💖🌍
Wait-it's "foolish" to stay together for only half a year?? If you can't wait for someone you supposedly love, or keep it in your pants, why even bother dating?
+Joseph Mogavero A lot can change in half a year...
A lot can change in half a year but men and women who are really in love wait a lifetime. My friend went to Vietnam...he had joined the army for four yrs. He came back to the open arms of his boyfriend....we went to meet him at the airport and his boyfriend ran into his arms it was tge awesomest sight a gay person can see and experience TRUE LOVE....
Joseph but remember that his "boyfriend" was back in San Francisco with his head spinning 24/7 from all the gays hanging from trees begging to be picked...talk about "low-hanging fruit"...this fellow meant well but his "partner" was too busy squeezing the fruit to see if they were ripe enough for him...sad, but very common in today's "love the one you're with" cheap culture'...it obviously hurt him a lot, but perhaps he learned from the experience...20 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too young to hang the "Just Married" ribbons on the Prius Hybrid bumper in the Bay Area....think about this...there is a reason birds don't build their nexts on high-voltage power lines...let that sink-in...
Greg Medina That’s why an open relationship if you can find someone that’s also into that, works best.
@@Tensolin01 Hey Tensolin01, open relationship is nothing more than just dating, please quit trying to dress it up
I went from Seattle to Morocco (mainly Rabat) as a young gay man in highschool. Let's just say I didn't make it a topic of discussion. But one of the tour guides on my study abroad was gay. Had a partner and everything, but he was rich and his partner was from Europe. And he wasn't very vocal about it. It was just a fact. I loved the little bit of Arabic in the beginning. Modern standard Arabic not really Moroccan dialect.
As a Morrocan Muslim young woman, all I can say is that our people, like any other country / community, can be very accepting of your gender or sexual idendity, but you can also find hostile people which is a problem caused by their lack of knowledge.
Next door in Algeria the story is very different. Gay people are criminals there and police will often look the other way when a lynch mob comes to kill you for being gay.
Luckily my boyfriend's family were able to leave the country as refugees otherwise he would never be able to live openly without the threat of violence and a prison sentence. His one brother is still a fundamentalist who believes that my boyfriend should be executed for his sexuality.
The majority doesn't accept that
@@ayoubben2018 yehh fr
As a Moroccan born in America I agree with you
Moroccan immigrants here in the Netherlands are so aggressive, and racist, they don’t hesitate to beat up indigenous Dutch Gay and Lesbians on the street in these people their own country and are not ashamed of it. Needless to say they are hated by now. All their ‘community’ accusingly says is: We, Moroccans, are being stigmatized. Perpetrators playing the victim. Grosse.
Wow, such a story! thanks for sharing
Actually Morocco is not in the Middle east ... it's in the west North Africa, and if you've been in Casablanca or other big cities it would've been less complicated for you ... there are even clubs for LGBT community in Casablanca
i'm Morocccan and i have many gay friends ... and LGBT community have started to stand up for their rights here
the start is always hard ... but humanity always win .. greetings from Morocco
what club is this ?
Hi I'm visiting Morocco January would love to meet new friends (LGBT community precisely
long distance relationships are extremely hard, on the way to the airport till on the plane i was crying, we would skype daily and talk on the phone for hours, he had a difficult time with the seperation, when he is on fire, i have to act as water to keep the peace, i was practically counting the days and telling him i would be there for his birthday, when i finally arrived i was surprised to see him at the airport with my mom in tow so we must have been the talk of the town that day because we hugged for what would seem an eternity with tears rolling down my cheeks.
You're a sweet young man. I hope you're doing well.
What a story. You must always stay close to that family. I am still so close to my exchange family in France. We cannot wait to visit Morocco. Thank you for sharing this story.
Toi, t'es un troll. Au Revoir.
The comments at the end that of this story about this non acceptance of being gay "not being necessarily bad or good" and 'there's no qualitative judgments to be made on other cultures"... it's just a different world that LBGT and queer people live in" is a vivid example of the thinking that flows from multiculturalism - that one culture is as good as another regardless of how they treat human rights, etc. It's nonsense. Try telling that to human beings that are being harassed, tortured, and
murdered because they are gay in these other cultures. Acceptance of these practices regardless of the culture they
exist in is morally wrong. We're faced with a huge struggle in the world today between the forces of modernity and forces
that want to retain traditions, etc.,that violate the basic human rights of people. Much of the world has come a long way
in stopping violence against children, women, gays, etc., However half of the world is still stuck in the past. To accept these
practices, whether they arise from the culture ,tradition, religion, etc., and make no qualitative judgments about them is to suggests that their OK and supports things staying as they are. Do we really want that?
howie mont Completely agree.
I soo don't agree. Our gay rights movement happened like 50 years ago, and most of us in the West are very very privileged. Places like morocco have had their country taken from them from Westerners. they don't have a good relationship with the west. we have to stop this colonizing attitude and let countries be autonomous and have their own gay role models, gay liberation movement (that is not white-washed and suited to their own lives).
I used to feel similar to you, especially having middle eastern ancestry that I did not identify with. I thought the remedy was simple...but taking away traditions and identities is not the answer, it'll just make them hate us more. we need to be accepting of all people and by our fabulousness and acceptingness, people will see how being lgbt is okay. we also can't compromise and throw certain people in our group under the bus (like trans folk and people who don't fit the heteronormative mould)
alltsem
"we have to stop this colonizing attitude and let countries be autonomous and have their own gay role models, gay liberation movement" THESE COUNTRIES WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN. THEY KILL OR IMPRISON THESE PEOPLE.
the rise of islam orthodoxy is in many instances a recent phenomenon -- not out of tradition but out of contempt for the West. Like in Iran things were pretty liberal and they had economic prosperity...but their pro-western government was replaced by an anti-western theocracy. and I see this too with Israel's pinkwashing...they claim to be more progressive and liberal in order to steal land and control palestinians. So we're trying to help but really just imposing ourselves instead of actually helping them. I'm not an expert in this topic at all, this is just my opinion, but I think if you explore the academic literature you'll find similar commentary
alltsem
That sounds more like other nations scapegoating, and making excuses for not socially evolving. (I don't think any nation is excused from such behavior in the present and past, by the way. USA and other 'western' nations have done plenty of it.)
Wow! What an amazing experience. Thanks for sharing your story! Love is Love….🌈
THX FOR SHARING YOUR STORY. I AM SURE THAT AT THE END, EVERYTHING WORKED OUT FINE! MUCH LOVE*
Very proud of you! Amazing story! Follow your dreams!
very interesting. I love Driftwood stories.
Morocco is not the Middle East. Duuuhhhhh. It's North Africa. Come on.
Politically , It is in Middle East. Culturally and religion wise .
Morocco is not the Middle East, at all.
yeah i picked up on that as well. he was using his language study to justify sex tourismus. not judging, but it's so obvious the way he talks about morocco being in the middle east when it's so not, the grandmother bringing him food...he gets some leniency because he learned the language before he went at least. he is just so priviledged, and was not nearly as heartbroken as he states. he went to the morroccan baths and was consoled. trust.
Yeah I noticed that too. It's Africa. 😁
@@sonquatsch8585 Listen again to what he said about geography. And don't be so judgemental and moralistic.
@@ianjones7488 0:50..."because I was moving to the Middle East." That's his exact words. Some people here are reacting not only because it's geographically imprecise but there are broader--slightly racist--implications in the way that he is flattening geopolitical differences. It's really not all the same. They speak Arabic. But they are not in The Middle East.
I hate it when he says he isn't making a qualitive judgement on other cultures and that it is neither good or bad. For goodness sake if you can be put to death for being gay I think you have the right to say that this is bad. I have refused to visit any Muslim countries for exactly this reason.
not problem I'm gay and welcome to Morocco
Morocco is fascinating. Loved Fez..Merakech.
Sweet man... sweet story. Love to granny!
... what? Very cute, but about what he said at the end, there is *very* definitively a qualitative judgement to be made about the life of lgbt folks in different cultures. "Very bad" and "horrible" sometimes apply.
Not all aspects of the culture in Morocco are bad, but certainly that element of the culture is bad. I find a lot of bad things in my own culture, and I see no reason why I should suspend judgment for other cultures.
Bravo for respecting and appreciating your host family so much.
You are bringing up another important issue here. Not to be fully there, where you actually are.
It can be very frustrating for the people you live with, if you are not fully present.
Like talking to a person who will not take a brake writing text messages or checking FB.
That last part about not being able to make a qualitative judgement about homophobia abroad is a big yikes. I say that as a first generation USAian.
Your story is cute, I remember when I went to morocco the first time lol they were trying to speak egyptian to me because some how they thought it was closer to english or easier for me to understand but it was not.
Thats funny.
I hope you are well if/when you get this short note, but please know that you have done many young men a huge favor by making your video...you are so very right about Americans not having any idea what life is like outside of the obsessively-PC, rainbow-colored fantasy-land they inhabit in the West, especially in the US and even more so in over-the-top gay ghettoes like San Francisco, where there are no limits to personal comportment anywhere or anytime. There really is another world out there that is NOT accepting and it is a wise man who recognizes that...thank you again.
Isnt Morocco in Africa, tho? North of Africa?
If he was my boyfriend I would not leave him in such a different social context by himself...
I grew up in countries like Morocco, and I think when people are at risk of being beaten (or worse) for their orientation, religion, et cetera, then there are judgments that can be made.
The part of the story with the little old lady bringing him food was sweet and everything but why on earth would any LGBT person go to a country where it’s illegal to be gay? It’s not worth it whether you’re going for a lovely vacation, or to experience the culture or anything. People take foreign law too lightly. In Morocco the country he went to just two years ago a lesbian couple who were tourists were arrested when someone found out they kissed while taking a photo! Same thing with Dubai (in UAE, by Iran). Yes it has resorts & skyscrapers but if a woman is raped she gets arrested for sex outside of marriage. Literally that’s happens. One woman, an Australian tourist was arrested after she was drugged, raped and beaten by three men. She was sentenced to one year in prison & she was an Australian citizen! Some men who were “cross dressing” or wearing drag in their private, hotel rooms were arrested. A British man was arrested for accidentally brushing past another man in a crowded bar. These countries aren’t safe for a lot of straight individuals let alone LGBT tourists. When in doubt google the countries laws. If it’s not safe, there are a ton of other beautiful countries to choose from. The worlds a big, beautiful place. Just use good judgment. 👍🏻🙂✌🏼
Uww ur story is bittersweet accully 😢
Great video. There are plenty of gay folks in Morocco. Just get on Grindr. No one is shy about it, just discrete.
Morocco is an amazing country. It may not be legal technically to be lgbtq but the people seem pretty accepting in person there. My French got me by in Morocco. School only.gave us 3 months of Arabic before the trip compared to my 3 semester of French I already had. So I couldn't get the Arabic to stick to memory that fast.
correct your information , it is not illegal to be gay in morocoo , wich means if you re outed that dosnt mean that you will go to jail.... there are people who came out to the media , but they never had a problem ......you will go to jail ,if there is evidence that you have been in a gay SEXUAL reliationdhip
Cool and looking good.
30 and I still don't know any LGBT people :( Small towns really are thee worse :(
Tom Ford glasses 🕶️!❤️
Nothing to with the video, but I was at the checkout in a local store having previously bought oranges from the market. The cashier could smell the it's he's and said "You've got Moroccan oranges!". I looked, and yes, they were Moroccan. She said "Ah, they are from my home, I always recognise them".
I swear Anthony has a striking resemblance to a young ('80s that is) Tom Hanks.
there are so many gays morroco ! there are bars and clubs and most of them are fine with homosexuality , as long as you don't throw it in people's faces it's fine . the family will have known he was gay.
+Paul Monks not that much still people are fundamentally hostile to the idea of being gay ( to the point that there were a protest just last week , against the conviction of two homophobes who has done an infraction , beaten and humiliated the two homosexuals by taking them out naked in the street , the population there was all okay with homophobe and beating part , just not okay with two people being gay and being intimate in their very own private house ) homosexuals are jailed frequently in the country , sometimes at the mere exhibit of feminine traits or a photo of hands together ( kissing be it for gays or straights is forbidden all the same , you do it on public , you'll be in trouble especially with people ready to call police at the first exhibit of any kind of affection no latter how small it is on public !!
He needs to continue that trail of thought as to different cultures not necessarily being bad or good, just different. For example, in the south when there’s homophobia, that’s not really a bad thing, that’s just their culture. When there’s slavery in the middle east, that’s just a cultural difference. When they’re beheading gay men, that’s just our intolerance for not respecting their way of life.
Morocco is not the Middle East. It's North Africa.
And before people try to explain it away or say I am mistaken: He says it at 0:50..."because I was moving to the Middle East." That's his exact words. Some people here who have objected to the geographical sloppiness are reacting not only because it's geographically imprecise but there are broader--slightly racist--implications in the way that he is flattening geopolitical differences. It's really not all the same. They speak Arabic. But they are not in The Middle East.
I can't quite see what the point of this is. You went to another country, your boyfriend dumped you, and your hosts in the country where you were staying were kind to you and comforted you. What more did you expect of them?
Sounds like my Lebanese family 4:15
fyi Morocco is in North(west) Africa (not the Middle East, but part of the Arab world)
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I really can't understand why you did this to yourself all seems so unecessary.
Dennis...it may seem "unnecessary" to you if you are content to never leave your zip-code, but this fellow was very brave to enter into a culture that he decided he needed to experience for his personal long-term goals, where he knew ahead of time that he needed to alter his public comportment for the sake of surviving alive...we often have to make decisions for a greater good that may not feel so good in the immediate term...it's called delayed gratification and exercising wise judgement...not everyone lives on a 24-hour carousel of self-delusion and indulgence like in the West.
shit. i would like to hear more from this kid.
Interesting that he views the decision to try and stay together as the mistake and not that they couldn’t keep it together for a mere 6 months. No tea no shade but girl.
Ana Ismee? Hahahaha 😂 It is like "I my name is" Confused kid
ana ismee is correct too
It's may be for people who speak Arabic with dialects, but it isn't correct grammatically. You either say "Ana ....... then your name " or "Ismee .....name " ....
Malcolm Al-Haj Dude I am a nativr speaker. It is possible to say Ana ismee, but you wouldnt usually say that because ismee is enough. Its the same in spanish where you can say 'yo soy' or 'soy' for 'I am'.
yeah i thought he wa gonna speak darija and say, "ana smiti anthony mercurio"...what he says is the same but not darija maghribiya.
Moroccan Exposure He was learning Standard Arabic in university and not Darija.
Not thats its the main part of the story but he keeps going on about "the Middle East". Morocco is in Africa... Specifically, straight across from Spain. Over the Straits of Gibralta. Quite far from the actual Middle East. 🤔🤔 How much research did he do?? Lol
Hahaha I know. This really pissed me off.
It's very much middle East culturallaly speaking for any Westerner.
Culturally, most of Morocco is extremely middle eastern. They speak Arabic, they practise Islam (mostly). (The traditional Berbers are North African/Maghreb in culture)
This is a common mistake especially for Americans who think that everything "Arab" is "Middle Eastern"...the 2 areas have HUGE overlap linguistically, culturally, ethnically and racially because North African "Arabs" are descended in part from Middle Eastern invasions centuries ago...think of it this way...Americans are more like the English in language, culture and values than they are with Indigenous Native Americans...
"He just dumped me" why does that sound so cliche, gay guys are so likely to be unfaithful.
jaffie Not true at all. Where did you pick that one up? From your church?
HitomiAyumu hahaha it's true man just accept the facts... I know it's hard for you to swallow
Jafet Vargas Rubbish.
+jaffie They were in LDR state. If you don't know anything about how two people in LDR state feel then you simply don't judge.
+RestuSandika Kamaruddin I do know... I have been so there
That is so endearing, the detail about the grandmother.
What story?
Being trans is legal in Morocco but being gay is not
Only intersex is legal
Morocco is North Africa
Morocco is in North Africa not middle East
God Bless Morocco.
Um, hello? Morocco is NOT in the Middle East.
.@ 4:00 bet you liked being treated like royalty. this is why they love going to far off places, to be catered to.
ewwwwww. he's so damn cute. ugh.
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GAH HE'S SO BEAUTIFUL. I cannot stop just watching him talk. His smile is captivating!
There seems to be beauty behind the handsome face as well. Sort of a kind soul... an old soul.
What the fuck is this comment. Ah, these heterhoes
deadass stop
Can I ask if the Transgender can travel to Morooco? I’m from Philippines 🇵🇭
we have Moroccan transgender here
and they are popular actors and dancers
Morocco is divers ... it depends on the city and the region
Vocal frrrrrry
Morocco in the middle-east.!?
Ha gay !
He didn't say that.
Why enter a country and want to change it's culture.
If morocco is in the middle east .what spain shold be .bay the way there is only 8 myls from morocco to spain
Go on tell us the real story of Morocco, those men
*77!!! COUNTRIES WHERE IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE GAY?! WHAT.*
there are only around 150 countries
exactly.
I wish I could've helped you.
This child man is very confused Morocco has never been in the middle east and unless we have a major recon figuring of the plant is not likely to be.
Morocco is and has been since the 1900 a gay mecca it had a lot of gay men, not open but its gay,
***** I have met gays who can be homophobic in views just because your Gay does not mean you do not have contradictory views so there put that in what ever my be your ass and think about it.
***** Now your aggressive attack on me is making you look very silly. I've been dealing with these type of o individuals for 20+ years in my professional working life , believe me both words are interchangeable they describe the same type behaviour the individual is seeking or have sexual relation with an individual under age. Both word drive from the same Greek language. both words describe and adfult having or actively seeking relations with an individual the underage of consent.
I understand the etymology of pedophile and pederast, both mean child lover. Is there a difference in their connotation?
So please don't attack somebody's education when you do not know the person I spent many hours in courts using the same language describe same person please you're just looking foolish now.
+eldadevata lets put some things straight here:
1. Moroccan boys do not *get* fucked - they are paid to fuck the guys that offer them money.
2. If you are a single male on holiday in Morocco, you will be harassed from morning till night by boys (and men) who want to have sex with you for money.
There are no victims in this game!
*****
Dont be so judgemental about being primitive. That may be part of their culture - so what??? There are way to few top gay men around in any case - what is your problem?? People can define themselves as they like - gay or not gay. In Turkish you are either a giver or a taker - the word 'gay' does not feature and they are all cool with that. Why are you offended that Muslim men are prone to be tops? Everyone is free to decide what sexual activity he or she wants to partake in. Why cant we just leave it as 'same gender sex' ? Some do it, some dont and that way no one has problems
It is quite clear that you have absolutely no first hand experience regarding men who engage homosexual sexual acts within oriental (muslim) countries and even clearer that you are mixing political gay issues and traditional male-male sexual activity (or even gender reassignment, which in many Muslim countries has also been part of the traditional and political structures). Trying to force the Muslim world into stream lining their society with ideals and values of the west has been one of the cardinal failures of the late 20th and 21st century and constant failed attempts to change their political and social structures is just going to worsen life quality in every aspect of the world. The fact that people like you think that you have all the answers is actually the root of the problems.
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Illegal to be gay? That's like saying it's illegal to be male or female.
So sad to live in country like that
not 10 hours of difference thats wrong . its only between 5 and 7 hours not 10
You should have studied French! Ha!
So what are you doing these days. Any big changes in life?
Your so cute x
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too many bottoms in SF
Hes cute. :)
he has still got a lot of growing up to do to hide you I identify was a mistake the Morrocans are a more open people they are very soft Islam.
+keith Newton Not really . I have a Morrocan friend who was beaten up by his father and kicked out of the house when he came out and moved to London thanks to his Belgium nationality, for many years, mother and sisters were forbidden to see him, his mother had to find an excuse to travel to Brussels where they have relatives to meet in secret
Yes I understand this but this is the same in most Muslim nations and Islamic communities. For goodness sacknit happens all the time in bible belt USA.
I have just come back from Morroco as a Western person my homosexuality was not questioned nor did anyone say or do anything negative to me
My Morrocan friends it's different for them it derpoends on there family's position on homosexuality and there wealth.local have to be careful it could end with them in prison loosing there job and thge family disowning them how ever I met a lot of couple whilst there what goies on behind there front door is there business, they drink alcohol, in fact Morocco has some very good vineyards and some very drinkable wines.
But I never once had to hide my sexuality.
I was discriminated for being disabled alot of Morrocan had huge issue with my disability than anything else particular when I told them to talk to me not my carer I can tell you what I want .
We are not soft Islam we are aware that without tourism we can’t beat up Spain !
We are conservatives and very judgmental I’m talking about my tribe in case someone tells me to not generalize…
You look as if you were just a gorgeous little boy.
lost btfl kid
Another culture vulture blah blah.
Boring
Do you live In Morocco 🇲🇦