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His name is King Vortigern, obviously he was a king. That's why his first helmet is a crown and a hood. Which I hate, why can't he wear a crown like most English kings did in battle
that one guy you’re not wrong. Just something I noticed. Like if you were a depressed, exiled sap you wouldn’t want to take the time to clean some armor that brought shame to yourself and faction.
The symbol on his armour has nothing to do with Phi, it is the symbol of the order the Sol Tenebris, or the Black Sun. You can see it on flags in harbour.
Gotta love how Bulwark could literally flip ANYTHING including Feats. Flipping a literal explosive catapult shot and taking NO damage or Flipping the Shaman across the map by Triggering bulwark as you accidentally shimmy onto a trap.
I main black prior. Use to main Lawbringer but the nerfed his shove and then black prior came along and I in a sense fell in love with the hero and move set
His face is disfigured or so I heard, his face has burnt marks, heard someone say that there are legends of noseless people from back then, and because this game is fantasy it could also be that
Remember that For honor is set in the 2000s something, and by the description of the era by apollyon in the campaing they didnt advance technologically because of the constant war, either betwen factions or inside each faction between its own clans. So aparently there were few or none who understood the way of improoving stuff (or they didnt live enough to improve it), so they just replicated these old tecnologies and made impractical modifications to it, or bizzare ones at that, (like the balista/catapults that every faction shared, or the balista that shoots bridges or whatever) its like they just stole what worked and made it theirs by applying some aestethic to it (guess this is why Warden doesnt have consistent armor and its just s mesh of metal and mail or something ha). This maybe why they have such impractical designs, and exagerated bodys at that, they literally live in some cadia like world where they only are born to fight and some of them might have kind of "evolved" to fit the enviroment of war, like Lawbros and Raiders maybe
@@Gaming_Legend2 The devs explained it a couple of times during the first months of it's release or so. I think it's still in the wiki and their page. Remember the FIRST For honor intro? (the one with Apollyon narrating?) That intro explains that after the Catastrophe came a milenia of War and ONLY war. So whatever year that was, the game is set 1.000 Years after that. maybe 2000s - 2200s.
This makes a lot of sense honestly, would explain how the minions, heros, commanders and guardians all vary in size, because people are quite literally evolving to become better suited for warfare
Ok but for honor is a game were in a non identified continent samurai,Vikings and knights fight each other so this game have put out realism already when He started and for a character name black prior i want something edgy and black
MATTIAS LIME It looks like shit and makes you look like an asshole nobody thinks you look cool after doing the same execution 30 times and walking away thinking you look like a badass
I always thought Black Prior's crown was a reference to historical "battle crowns" that would be welded to a kings helmet whenever he was leading his troops into battle. I can recall kings like Richard The Lionheart and Henry V being pictured wearing such a crown.
I have heard of people talking about these battle crowns but I haven't been able to find much in sources when it comes to these. The closes thing that I could think of when it comes to this is a sort of brass inlay around the circumference at the top of the helmet that's meant to look like a crown, but never an actually full circlet of metal like what an average crown would look like and not like what BP has.
My favorite helmet is Erzabet's Valor, but only because it covers the neck and doesn't have a fur collar. I also use the Vasago arms because I don't like the demon on the full mail variants.
I know how you feel. If the made a full mail variant without the demons, that would be my favorite hands down. Also, yeah what's with Ubisoft putting a fur collar for every single helmet? It's the same fur collar too, just copy pasted with a different color. Disappointing to say the least, but I decided it wasn't important enough to say in the video.
@@GoGoDani I feel like I would've enjoyed the fur more if it wasn't so jarringly separated. Like there's nothing tethering it the helm and nothing tethering it to the chest pieces, it's just... there. Not to mention I just don't like being able to see my BP's neck. It works for like the Roman's because they often had that area exposed, but for a full knight, and a HEAVY class at that, it just felt... wrong
Great video, as always! Those metal crowns that BP wears may be inspired by Vortigern from King Arthur movie - there was a idea that the whole character look is inspired by him actually.
i always wished that ubi would give bp a black houndskull under a hood, thats how we used to make a "plague doctor" in morhau. idk i just feel like it would kinda fit his edgy aesthetic
In my opinion I don’t care that it isn’t “historically accurate”. If it’s cool it’s ok Edit: I don’t mean “cool” as edgy or something, Im saying that if it looks good, it’s ok
Sorry for such a delay in releasing another video. Quarantine is starting to get to me and it's causing me sort of an executive dysfunction to where I just don't want to be spending 20+ hours editing a video. This video alone had me spend at least around 8 accumulative hours just trying to render, upload, and process the video which involves me doing nothing but monitor a loading bar making sure it's still going (because if I don't, there have been multiple hours in the past wasted because it froze along the way). That doesn't even include the multitude of hours in writing the script, finding pictures, doing research, and editing the footage. I want to do part 3 for this soon, but at the same time it's hard because I much rather do something that I feel is enjoyable instead of something that is a bit of a chore. Don't get me wrong. I am still planning on working on these videos to the extent that I can, but I just wanted to put this out there to tell everyone that if I don't release Part 3 within the next week or so, it's probably because I'm playing Bannerlord or Escape From Tarkov or something, and not because I died. I appreciate all of you that watch these videos though, and I just wanted to fill you guys in on what's going on. P.S. If you happen to be a max level mega-chad in Tarkov and you want to help me get through some of the early god awful gatekeeping quests, lmk
It's completely fine man. This situation had gotten to all of us, and it has affected a lot of us like that. I understand the need to apologize, and it's good that you did, but just know it is completely normal and nothing is bad about it. Just keep making the awesome stuff that you make, you are probably one of my favourite FH creators, since you are an active player of the game who enjoys talking about this stuff.
Nice video man, but im pretty sure BP has leprosy in the Sacramentum Mortis mask. you can see some dead skin if you turn the brightness all the way up and also by the lack of nose. About the murmur helmet, it looks like he has Vitiligo. Sorry for the bad english btw, not my main language. Hope its at least understandable.
I thought he was heavily burn scarred underneath the mask, but it could definitely be leprosy. There is the Order of Saint Lazarus who fought while having leprosy.
I know this might not be your strong point but, as a Tiandi’s main I would really like to see a in-depth walkthrough of Tiandi’s move set and stances, I find watching Tiandi’s elegant, it’s just a proposition
if this hasn't already been said about sacramentum mortis helm, if you look closely where his eyes are, you can see(in which i think) some kind of burns around his eyes,which i think hints at bp's face being burned/injured and probably supports the fact that his nose was cut or burned off.
Just gonna say, I got 4 minutes in and subscribed this was my first video and I already love your style, opinions backed up with facts and logic. Keep up the great work!
>Helmet and a face mask Theoretically, the skullcap and the face mask could, actually, be all-one-piece, and it just looks like separate pieces because of how the headband and hood sit on the helmet.
I am not sure what the popular opinion is but the Erzbet's Valor Helm on release was far better than I could have ever asked for and loved it so much I never took it off literally after I got it it's just amazing, my ideal knight helmet. Then again, this is realism analysis lol
Great Video, thanks man. One thing I'd like to see for BP, although I'm unsure of it's historical accuracy, is the coif helm King Arthur wears in Monty Python. It looks really cool in my opinion, and could give us less edge for BP depending on how Ubi does it.
You probably know this but I think the reason the black prior wears light chest armour is because he has a shield which kind of compensates for it, but yeah I don't know man just thought I would mention it, nice video btw I appreciate you making realism analysis videos I'm glad someone takes this game remotely seriously I always mention the historical inaccuracies in the sword combat like why the hell do they never use the point of the sword?? Like I mean at least black prior has a thrusting attack but that's only from above, ah I'm straying of topic nice video man 👍
What bugs me is that Ubisoft spelt the name wrong It should be "Black Priar" Priar translates to Bible verse/hymm which makes 100% more sense then prior which roughly means something happening before an event
Prior, derived from the Latin for "earlier, first", (or prioress for nuns) is an ecclesiastical title for a superior, usually lower in rank than an abbot or abbess. Its earlier generic usage referred to any monastic superior.
For the helmets with horns you forgot to mention that the enemy can use the horns as a grappling point and can control black prior if he ends up in that situation
I enjoy the Queen's Pawn helmet due to the fact that it reminds me so much from Dark Souls, there was an NPC called Creighton who has a somewhat similar helmet, in game it's referred to as, "Creighton's mask"
Look up Ferdinand II’s armor. That entire set is covered with engravings of demons. May or may not have ever seen practical usage given the owner was nobility, but point being demons on armor was definitely a thing at one point.
The largest depictions were on the rearward facing side too. That's really interesting. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I am definitely going to look more into this and why these design choices were made.
People who say For Honor isn't realistic as an argument when realism is brought up probably started playing late in the game's life. When the game was released it was obviously going for the realism crowd, with the murder-stroke being shown off in the trailer.
I mean even regardless of that, there are still conclusions to be drawn from just observing the game itself. There are things in the game that take heavy inspiration from history, even if the major premise of the game isn't completely realistic.
19:50 The Japanese samurai have a mempo mask which is often demonic mask which use ti scare people while also offer more protection, difference is this is probably more useful than that elbow piece
Talking about Erzebet's Valor helm i tried imagining that the mask and the head piece actually welded through each other with the hood piece in between them, like some screws that combine the mask and the headpiece itself *through* the cloth of the hood, so that the whole thing is a full piece, not three separate pieces on top of each other. That's the most logical thing I could think of to picture it being as practical as it could get.
Talks about the idea of people back then accepting eventual death - "That's more history than what we really need right now." i like how he says this even though he goes through hell and back to try and find historical similarities/differences for the armors and uses them to debunk the in-game armors because they're not completely historically accurate XD.
Hey man, been binge watching your vids lately, finally subscribed, I just wish that when you're talking about the armor you wouldn't spin as much, because as soon as you mention something, I have to wait for the model to spin around to see what you're talking about, specifically the greek symbol on the Camio's Legacy arms. Thanks, keep it up!
I think the whole having more rust thing makes sense because the black priors basically came out of retirement. However that whole thing gets thrown in out when you look at how clean everything except his helmets is (as you pointed out)
The Queen's Palm helm reminds me a lot of a closed-off Greek helm. It's the eyes, curved back, and the sort of tapers towards the bottom of the front that give it this look. They made the front way flatter, and got rid of the massive angles though. It does remind me a lot of valk, also
That new helmet might be one item. Like, the cap is bolted to the mask with the hood in the middle. The bowl cap bolts the hood, and itself, to the mask, rendering it as a single piece of gear.
This is what I gather from Erzebet’s Valor: He is wearing a connected helmet face mask combo or a full helmet even, but the crown from which the hood is draped is a separate unit that goes over the helmet after it’s put on. I know that the upper helmet and the face plate look like they’re on different planes, implying that they’re two separate units, but I don’t think was the initial point of the concept. This could be a discrepancy between the concept artwork and the 3D modeling, maybe the result of two modelers working on the same piece at different times without great communication, or maybe just a mistake brought about by time constraints and the limitations of re-used assets. Shoot, I now see that the crown is actually connected to the helmet, so that discredits everything I just said.
to be fair on the Erzsebet's Valor helm the armor wasn't designed with combat in mind, Ubi explicitly stated the armor from Y4S1 was created as decoration for the Truce of Wyvrendale in the lore. this is also why the other armors from warden, LB, kensai, and the Wu-Lin are very flashy and colorful
The symbol on the pauldrons is the black prior order symbol, it represents a crossed out sun, thus expressing the order of the black priors crusade to bring darkness to the world
Coming from a blacksmith, the set up for the erzebet's valor helm is probably skullcap with a riveted face plate and the hood sandwiched in the middle separate from the rest of the outfit
The armor sets such as Vassago, Murmur, Dantalion, Forcas, and Camio are all names of real Demons all of which have specific roles. This gives the Black Prior a more edgy feel and possibly more dark. Just a FYI if you look at the new armor set The Demonic Primordial, if you look at the chest piece on the left side are 3 Crosses on a hill but the hills are skulls. In the Bible it's related to Jesus and the 2 criminals he was crucified with. Again it's a more edgy look and the skulls obviously mean "death" The Dies Irae armor and shield is related to a Latin hymn that talks about Jesus's 2nd coming. Interesting fact: The name Apollyon is another Demon name and in For Honor she is basically Lucifer. Chaos, madness, and no peace. This game has a lot of references to real life and the Bible as well.
From what I know of on the goods, Black Prior has a chain mail hood underneath... Though I doubt that makes much difference. Outside of this random stuff, thanks for the video!
The erzebet helm seems to be having the hood come out of the crown part and the whole helmet is underneath as one piece. That’s what it looks like to me at least
The black prior has a lore of after being part of apolyons main army they went into dispear after apolyons defeat they went into the shadows but where called upon when their home castle/settlement and where called upon to take up arms so from that analogy this can be a reason for the rust on his armour.
i may be wrong but the number 5 that makes the black priors symbol is because the battle the black prior was supposed to have fought in happened during season 5
I don't have any historical adjustments for hood either, but it can serve a purpose of keeping BP's bald head from sun and heat (I mean crusades and stuff, there's a desert there, so, maybe smth like that)
I think the point of the rust was to show that the heroes were in constant fighting and did not have time to rest and take care of their armor (weapons seem to be different though at higher levels)
I'm looking forward to a Gladiator video as there were many different types and Ubi probably could make a game similar to for for Honor, just with the different types of Gladiators
I remember a tour guide in castle muiderslot (the Netherlands) saying something about using hoods to show that they aren't afraid and are very good fighters, though it was only a guide and years ago so might not be 100% correct
I’d like to see you do a video showing off what you would use a purely aesthetic choice and no historical accuracy that’s seems like an interesting topic
The only gripe I have with Erzebet's helm is that the cloth obscures a large part of the already crap visibility. It covered the wrong eye too! Since Vortiger holds his shield left arm and goes into full-black stance with the left side of his body forward. I.e.: he's looking directly into the cloth that's obscuring his vision. Edit: you talked about this point. I'm glad we're almost on the same line. Beyond that, it just looks cool. 8/10. Best crusader helmet for Vortrigger, but not best helm overall.
I know someone pointed out to you that all the knights have the combat emote Macte Virtute. I don’t know if you know this but all the other factions have a universal emote as well called: Vikings: Ageatavel Samurai: Subarashii Wu Lin: Zuode Hao Just in case you review any non-knight characters down the road!
I don't quite understand how you claim that the Erzabets valour helmet even remotely resembles queens pawn or any other head/helmet he has but imo its one of the best in the game despite the odd features. I would also appreciate more grounded and historically accurate options however, not sure why they didn't go that route instead of the copy and paste reskins they release every month or so.
What if the erzabet's valour helm is one piece of headgear. As in, the hood doesn't have a top, but is attached to the helmet underneath the crown, and the cap and facemask are in fact one solid piece of metal. Style points!
The helmet with the cloak (forgot the name) would be the best helmet in my opinion if it wasn't for the damn ketle helm he has, the crown would still be good but then he has another helmet on top of his helmest which is under a cloak/hood.
Black Prior part 3 is out! If you want to vote for what hero you would like to see next, the poll will be on that video!
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His name is King Vortigern, obviously he was a king. That's why his first helmet is a crown and a hood. Which I hate, why can't he wear a crown like most English kings did in battle
Gogo danny
@Deus Vult guy Because any hit that you land on him tis but a scratch.
Can you redo this vid?
"All the Armors have Rust"
Tiandi: Is this some kind of peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand?
Well, male Tiandi is literally a prince, and female Tiandi is a royal guard, so lore-wise this is quite true
If u hate rust then the white armour is nightmare inducing
I find it odd that he complains about rust but lore wise black prior was in exile and wasn’t fighting so had no need to take care of his gear.
@@lightningknight10 still, it take about five minutes,
that one guy you’re not wrong. Just something I noticed. Like if you were a depressed, exiled sap you wouldn’t want to take the time to clean some armor that brought shame to yourself and faction.
Black Priors Sacramentum Mortis headgear actually removes the users nose, switch between it and other equipment and it is clear.
_a small price to pay for air_
Well, maybe they do have no nose with the headgear. We’re forgetting they carved their symbol on their foreheads
The skin around his eyes show burn scars as well. His face is heavily disfigured in that set.
I'm pretty sure that it's a death stranding reference... What does it's name mean??
Mounir Nidhal I think: "death's sacrament"
I don't know why they added a fighting mechanic to this fashion game
Is like in team fortress 2, they added a shooter mechanice yo the hat simulator so theres something else to do if you get bored
The symbol on his armour has nothing to do with Phi, it is the symbol of the order the Sol Tenebris, or the Black Sun. You can see it on flags in harbour.
I'm pretty sure it's actually the dark sun but I'm not to sure.
@@fearz-4367 could be, either way it means pretty much the same thing.
@@merobo5066 dude is legitimately named Black Prior and you’re worrying about nazis right now
@@galetine5253 do you remember what did he say?
I like to use the Black Prior not because he's edgy but because I can just say "no you" while tossing my enemies trying to do Anything
Until they shield bash, then Black Prior's get serious.
Gotta love how Bulwark could literally flip ANYTHING including Feats. Flipping a literal explosive catapult shot and taking NO damage or Flipping the Shaman across the map by Triggering bulwark as you accidentally shimmy onto a trap.
I main black prior. Use to main Lawbringer but the nerfed his shove and then black prior came along and I in a sense fell in love with the hero and move set
When ever I do that I feel an obligation to scream AD PROFUNDIS with a lisp
@@xShadeThePyromaniac flip a ranged shinobi hit, it wont disappoint
A history UA-camr who plays the game? Sub.
Last time I was this early there weren't any romans in for honor.
There was a popular Reddit post when he was released, sacramentum mortis is so close to his face it looks like he cut his nose off.
Thats the thing tho, they actually did cut the modelos no se off to put the mask on
He's edgy enough to do it.
Maybe prior is a leper
His face is disfigured or so I heard, his face has burnt marks, heard someone say that there are legends of noseless people from back then, and because this game is fantasy it could also be that
He is noseless with the sacramentum mortis mask
Remember that For honor is set in the 2000s something, and by the description of the era by apollyon in the campaing they didnt advance technologically because of the constant war, either betwen factions or inside each faction between its own clans. So aparently there were few or none who understood the way of improoving stuff (or they didnt live enough to improve it), so they just replicated these old tecnologies and made impractical modifications to it, or bizzare ones at that, (like the balista/catapults that every faction shared, or the balista that shoots bridges or whatever) its like they just stole what worked and made it theirs by applying some aestethic to it (guess this is why Warden doesnt have consistent armor and its just s mesh of metal and mail or something ha).
This maybe why they have such impractical designs, and exagerated bodys at that, they literally live in some cadia like world where they only are born to fight and some of them might have kind of "evolved" to fit the enviroment of war, like Lawbros and Raiders maybe
i would like to know where all this info came from because I actually like this idea
@@Gaming_Legend2 The devs explained it a couple of times during the first months of it's release or so. I think it's still in the wiki and their page.
Remember the FIRST For honor intro? (the one with Apollyon narrating?) That intro explains that after the Catastrophe came a milenia of War and ONLY war. So whatever year that was, the game is set 1.000 Years after that. maybe 2000s - 2200s.
This makes a lot of sense honestly, would explain how the minions, heros, commanders and guardians all vary in size, because people are quite literally evolving to become better suited for warfare
Honestly I would like to see more historically realistic armor for all the knights, also have you ever thought about working for Ubisoft😂
Big fax he kinda know wat he talkin bout
Ok but for honor is a game were in a non identified continent samurai,Vikings and knights fight each other so this game have put out realism already when He started and for a character name black prior i want something edgy and black
@@mattiaslime8926 the edgy look fuckin sucks to me, would love more templar like armor
@@bramchatrou472 the point is that He isn't a crusader and all of this stuff of death,black,darkness and evil is part of bus background
MATTIAS LIME It looks like shit and makes you look like an asshole nobody thinks you look cool after doing the same execution 30 times and walking away thinking you look like a badass
I always thought Black Prior's crown was a reference to historical "battle crowns" that would be welded to a kings helmet whenever he was leading his troops into battle. I can recall kings like Richard The Lionheart and Henry V being pictured wearing such a crown.
I have heard of people talking about these battle crowns but I haven't been able to find much in sources when it comes to these. The closes thing that I could think of when it comes to this is a sort of brass inlay around the circumference at the top of the helmet that's meant to look like a crown, but never an actually full circlet of metal like what an average crown would look like and not like what BP has.
@@GoGoDani do you know about clod/cod(I can spell) pieces
My favorite helmet is Erzabet's Valor, but only because it covers the neck and doesn't have a fur collar. I also use the Vasago arms because I don't like the demon on the full mail variants.
I know how you feel. If the made a full mail variant without the demons, that would be my favorite hands down. Also, yeah what's with Ubisoft putting a fur collar for every single helmet? It's the same fur collar too, just copy pasted with a different color. Disappointing to say the least, but I decided it wasn't important enough to say in the video.
@@GoGoDani I feel like I would've enjoyed the fur more if it wasn't so jarringly separated. Like there's nothing tethering it the helm and nothing tethering it to the chest pieces, it's just... there. Not to mention I just don't like being able to see my BP's neck. It works for like the Roman's because they often had that area exposed, but for a full knight, and a HEAVY class at that, it just felt... wrong
Great video, as always!
Those metal crowns that BP wears may be inspired by Vortigern from King Arthur movie - there was a idea that the whole character look is inspired by him actually.
Ahhh general kenobi. They needa make a mask that kinda looks like general greiv.
Eyes included
More like General Shinobi, right? I'll see myself out now...
AbusiveWaffle Gaming bruh I love it
Willyamo Valkyrie’s helmet looks exactly like it
Will you ever do the Fresh Prince of Beijing himself, tiandi?
Let's hope not
I know its been ten months but this gave me a good chuckle
i always wished that ubi would give bp a black houndskull under a hood, thats how we used to make a "plague doctor" in morhau. idk i just feel like it would kinda fit his edgy aesthetic
Erzabet’s Valor Helmet:
Protection: 4
Vision: 3
Ventilation: 7
Fashion: 10
In my opinion I don’t care that it isn’t “historically accurate”. If it’s cool it’s ok
Edit: I don’t mean “cool” as edgy or something, Im saying that if it looks good, it’s ok
Sorry for such a delay in releasing another video. Quarantine is starting to get to me and it's causing me sort of an executive dysfunction to where I just don't want to be spending 20+ hours editing a video. This video alone had me spend at least around 8 accumulative hours just trying to render, upload, and process the video which involves me doing nothing but monitor a loading bar making sure it's still going (because if I don't, there have been multiple hours in the past wasted because it froze along the way). That doesn't even include the multitude of hours in writing the script, finding pictures, doing research, and editing the footage. I want to do part 3 for this soon, but at the same time it's hard because I much rather do something that I feel is enjoyable instead of something that is a bit of a chore. Don't get me wrong. I am still planning on working on these videos to the extent that I can, but I just wanted to put this out there to tell everyone that if I don't release Part 3 within the next week or so, it's probably because I'm playing Bannerlord or Escape From Tarkov or something, and not because I died. I appreciate all of you that watch these videos though, and I just wanted to fill you guys in on what's going on.
P.S. If you happen to be a max level mega-chad in Tarkov and you want to help me get through some of the early god awful gatekeeping quests, lmk
It's completely fine man. This situation had gotten to all of us, and it has affected a lot of us like that. I understand the need to apologize, and it's good that you did, but just know it is completely normal and nothing is bad about it.
Just keep making the awesome stuff that you make, you are probably one of my favourite FH creators, since you are an active player of the game who enjoys talking about this stuff.
The letter Φ is pronounced as phee.Not fi and it's just the greek symbol for the letter F
@GoGoDani Why isn’t the Vicious Balaur torso, and leg armor a suggested set?
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone, only DAEKNETH everyday.
Nice video man, but im pretty sure BP has leprosy in the Sacramentum Mortis mask. you can see some dead skin if you turn the brightness all the way up and also by the lack of nose. About the murmur helmet, it looks like he has Vitiligo.
Sorry for the bad english btw, not my main language. Hope its at least understandable.
I thought he was heavily burn scarred underneath the mask, but it could definitely be leprosy. There is the Order of Saint Lazarus who fought while having leprosy.
The sacrementum Mortis helm makes him look like the taskmaster
Or dr doom
I know this might not be your strong point but, as a Tiandi’s main I would really like to see a in-depth walkthrough of Tiandi’s move set and stances, I find watching Tiandi’s elegant, it’s just a proposition
Watch ranton's reaction to the marching fire expansion
@@jayb9395 but he is a monk tho
When are you doing the peacekeepers analysis. Youre best for honor youtuber.
Probably after part 3 of this since so many people want to see it. I will still have to put it in a poll though so people can vote for it.
@@GoGoDani I rly want to know if the masks are historicall and what are they called. Cant wait
winter tommy is the best for honor you tuber
@@notbr8ks771 Bro hes cringe.
1 Gogo Dani
2 Kenzo
3 zanny
I do agree with Zanny the rest is a no
if this hasn't already been said about sacramentum mortis helm, if you look closely where his eyes are, you can see(in which i think) some kind of burns around his eyes,which i think hints at bp's face being burned/injured and probably supports the fact that his nose was cut or burned off.
Just gonna say, I got 4 minutes in and subscribed this was my first video and I already love your style, opinions backed up with facts and logic. Keep up the great work!
Finally a For Honor channel that talks about the armor and realism comparison. I'm gald that I got you in my recommended page. subbed
>Helmet and a face mask
Theoretically, the skullcap and the face mask could, actually, be all-one-piece, and it just looks like separate pieces because of how the headband and hood sit on the helmet.
I am not sure what the popular opinion is but the Erzbet's Valor Helm on release was far better than I could have ever asked for and loved it so much I never took it off literally after I got it it's just amazing, my ideal knight helmet. Then again, this is realism analysis lol
I've been looking forward to this.
Same
“What we could’ve had “ and it’s just warden with a hood on 😂😂😂
Great Video, thanks man. One thing I'd like to see for BP, although I'm unsure of it's historical accuracy, is the coif helm King Arthur wears in Monty Python. It looks really cool in my opinion, and could give us less edge for BP depending on how Ubi does it.
It's not very realistic, but it would be much better than what we have right now, so I support it.
You probably know this but I think the reason the black prior wears light chest armour is because he has a shield which kind of compensates for it, but yeah I don't know man just thought I would mention it, nice video btw I appreciate you making realism analysis videos I'm glad someone takes this game remotely seriously I always mention the historical inaccuracies in the sword combat like why the hell do they never use the point of the sword?? Like I mean at least black prior has a thrusting attack but that's only from above, ah I'm straying of topic nice video man 👍
What bugs me is that Ubisoft spelt the name wrong
It should be "Black Priar"
Priar translates to Bible verse/hymm which makes 100% more sense then prior which roughly means something happening before an event
Prior, derived from the Latin for "earlier, first", (or prioress for nuns) is an ecclesiastical title for a superior, usually lower in rank than an abbot or abbess. Its earlier generic usage referred to any monastic superior.
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Ahh I figured they went with the usual definition of how prior is used
I still think Priar would fit the whole dark bishop/knight
For the helmets with horns you forgot to mention that the enemy can use the horns as a grappling point and can control black prior if he ends up in that situation
I enjoy the Queen's Pawn helmet due to the fact that it reminds me so much from Dark Souls, there was an NPC called Creighton who has a somewhat similar helmet, in game it's referred to as, "Creighton's mask"
Look up Ferdinand II’s armor. That entire set is covered with engravings of demons. May or may not have ever seen practical usage given the owner was nobility, but point being demons on armor was definitely a thing at one point.
The largest depictions were on the rearward facing side too. That's really interesting. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I am definitely going to look more into this and why these design choices were made.
GoGoDani no problem. Thank you for the video!
GoGoDani, the phi symbol on bp's gear "according to the Lore" is the cult he's apart of apparently
I'm fairly certain the symbol on the shoulder plates is called tenebris sol from the black prior event.
The more I watch these videos the more I look at my armor carefully and pick some decent pieces that make sense and are leveled up well.
The queen's pawn helm reminds me of a greek corinthian helmet, but fully enclosed on the face.
People who say For Honor isn't realistic as an argument when realism is brought up probably started playing late in the game's life. When the game was released it was obviously going for the realism crowd, with the murder-stroke being shown off in the trailer.
I mean even regardless of that, there are still conclusions to be drawn from just observing the game itself. There are things in the game that take heavy inspiration from history, even if the major premise of the game isn't completely realistic.
@@GoGoDani Even now the Jiang Jun is literally just Guan Yu the Chinese general right down to the character lore.
it's really just quasi realism to low fantasy
Thing is ppl wamt realism to influence game balance which simply shouldnt be the case.
@@darknessml6145 it always has been tho
Great content as usual Dani
Finally, someone who's as bothered as me about the coif situation!
19:50 The Japanese samurai have a mempo mask which is often demonic mask which use ti scare people while also offer more protection, difference is this is probably more useful than that elbow piece
Talking about Erzebet's Valor helm i tried imagining that the mask and the head piece actually welded through each other with the hood piece in between them, like some screws that combine the mask and the headpiece itself *through* the cloth of the hood, so that the whole thing is a full piece, not three separate pieces on top of each other. That's the most logical thing I could think of to picture it being as practical as it could get.
Also keep in mind that the horns on helmets really just make grappling for your opponent easier
Talks about the idea of people back then accepting eventual death - "That's more history than what we really need right now."
i like how he says this even though he goes through hell and back to try and find historical similarities/differences for the armors and uses them to debunk the in-game armors because they're not completely historically accurate XD.
I love these 3am uploads definently subscribing lmao
Hey man, been binge watching your vids lately, finally subscribed, I just wish that when you're talking about the armor you wouldn't spin as much, because as soon as you mention something, I have to wait for the model to spin around to see what you're talking about, specifically the greek symbol on the Camio's Legacy arms. Thanks, keep it up!
Erzebet helmets hood seems to not be full hood, it looks like it’s missing the top part and is basically pinned under the crown.
I think the whole having more rust thing makes sense because the black priors basically came out of retirement. However that whole thing gets thrown in out when you look at how clean everything except his helmets is (as you pointed out)
i mean
His armour still looks cool...
Good video my guy :)
taking out the armpit is a really good way to disable the entire arm, even if you miss the arteries
The Queen's Palm helm reminds me a lot of a closed-off Greek helm. It's the eyes, curved back, and the sort of tapers towards the bottom of the front that give it this look. They made the front way flatter, and got rid of the massive angles though.
It does remind me a lot of valk, also
23:07 lawbringer: am I a joke to you?
That new helmet might be one item. Like, the cap is bolted to the mask with the hood in the middle.
The bowl cap bolts the hood, and itself, to the mask, rendering it as a single piece of gear.
This is what I gather from Erzebet’s Valor:
He is wearing a connected helmet face mask combo or a full helmet even, but the crown from which the hood is draped is a separate unit that goes over the helmet after it’s put on.
I know that the upper helmet and the face plate look like they’re on different planes, implying that they’re two separate units, but I don’t think was the initial point of the concept. This could be a discrepancy between the concept artwork and the 3D modeling, maybe the result of two modelers working on the same piece at different times without great communication, or maybe just a mistake brought about by time constraints and the limitations of re-used assets.
Shoot, I now see that the crown is actually connected to the helmet, so that discredits everything I just said.
to be fair on the Erzsebet's Valor helm the armor wasn't designed with combat in mind, Ubi explicitly stated the armor from Y4S1 was created as decoration for the Truce of Wyvrendale in the lore.
this is also why the other armors from warden, LB, kensai, and the Wu-Lin are very flashy and colorful
Also about the Murmur Helm, i think that's bone powder, like Jörmungandr uses.
The symbol on the pauldrons is the black prior order symbol, it represents a crossed out sun, thus expressing the order of the black priors crusade to bring darkness to the world
Coming from a blacksmith, the set up for the erzebet's valor helm is probably skullcap with a riveted face plate and the hood sandwiched in the middle separate from the rest of the outfit
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7:16 those helmets look amazing i want those in the game
They're peace keeper helmets
Torin Jones would look really good with bp
@@cksk101 but they are peacekeepers that's the point
You could definitely make a video about how For Honor has been getting less realistic ever since Marching Fire released! I see a lot of potential
Ghost that would be a good idea for his channel :D
Dude Black Prior is so jacked it looks like he’s about to snap the belts holding his pauldrons in place
Can´t wait for the Highlander Analysis!
The armor sets such as Vassago, Murmur, Dantalion, Forcas, and Camio are all names of real Demons all of which have specific roles. This gives the Black Prior a more edgy feel and possibly more dark. Just a FYI if you look at the new armor set The Demonic Primordial, if you look at the chest piece on the left side are 3 Crosses on a hill but the hills are skulls. In the Bible it's related to Jesus and the 2 criminals he was crucified with. Again it's a more edgy look and the skulls obviously mean "death" The Dies Irae armor and shield is related to a Latin hymn that talks about Jesus's 2nd coming. Interesting fact: The name Apollyon is another Demon name and in For Honor she is basically Lucifer. Chaos, madness, and no peace. This game has a lot of references to real life and the Bible as well.
From what I know of on the goods, Black Prior has a chain mail hood underneath... Though I doubt that makes much difference. Outside of this random stuff, thanks for the video!
The erzebet helm seems to be having the hood come out of the crown part and the whole helmet is underneath as one piece. That’s what it looks like to me at least
The black prior has a lore of after being part of apolyons main army they went into dispear after apolyons defeat they went into the shadows but where called upon when their home castle/settlement and where called upon to take up arms so from that analogy this can be a reason for the rust on his armour.
i may be wrong but the number 5 that makes the black priors symbol is because the battle the black prior was supposed to have fought in happened during season 5
I don't have any historical adjustments for hood either, but it can serve a purpose of keeping BP's bald head from sun and heat (I mean crusades and stuff, there's a desert there, so, maybe smth like that)
I think the point of the rust was to show that the heroes were in constant fighting and did not have time to rest and take care of their armor (weapons seem to be different though at higher levels)
I want to believe that the black prior's basic helm is a reference to king Arthur's from monthly python's holy grail, but edgier.
I had read that the masks could potentially be a reference to people with leprosy and the leper king
I'm looking forward to a Gladiator video as there were many different types and Ubi probably could make a game similar to for for Honor, just with the different types of Gladiators
I talked about the similarity to Dante's head piece in the release trailer of the character, but I doubt you're talking about my comment.
(Steadfast Rock helm)
Lawbringer: I know your pain
I remember a tour guide in castle muiderslot (the Netherlands) saying something about using hoods to show that they aren't afraid and are very good fighters, though it was only a guide and years ago so might not be 100% correct
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I’d like to see you do a video showing off what you would use a purely aesthetic choice and no historical accuracy that’s seems like an interesting topic
Now that I watch this realize how much cooler a new helm where he wears a hood over his helm would look
The only gripe I have with Erzebet's helm is that the cloth obscures a large part of the already crap visibility.
It covered the wrong eye too! Since Vortiger holds his shield left arm and goes into full-black stance with the left side of his body forward.
I.e.: he's looking directly into the cloth that's obscuring his vision.
Edit: you talked about this point. I'm glad we're almost on the same line.
Beyond that, it just looks cool.
8/10. Best crusader helmet for Vortrigger, but not best helm overall.
The fi symbol is sol tenebris meaning dark sun which is supposed to be the first stage of all creation
I know someone pointed out to you that all the knights have the combat emote Macte Virtute. I don’t know if you know this but all the other factions have a universal emote as well called:
Vikings: Ageatavel
Samurai: Subarashii
Wu Lin: Zuode Hao
Just in case you review any non-knight characters down the road!
The heretic crusader effect is what we should’ve had for BP on release
I don't quite understand how you claim that the Erzabets valour helmet even remotely resembles queens pawn or any other head/helmet he has but imo its one of the best in the game despite the odd features. I would also appreciate more grounded and historically accurate options however, not sure why they didn't go that route instead of the copy and paste reskins they release every month or so.
I don’t get ubisoft’s obsession with making ever piece of armour looking 1000 years old... so rusty
Alabama man roasting a helmet for 4 minutes and 8 seconds straight.
What if the erzabet's valour helm is one piece of headgear.
As in, the hood doesn't have a top, but is attached to the helmet underneath the crown, and the cap and facemask are in fact one solid piece of metal.
Style points!
The helmet with the cloak (forgot the name) would be the best helmet in my opinion if it wasn't for the damn ketle helm he has, the crown would still be good but then he has another helmet on top of his helmest which is under a cloak/hood.
Queen's Pawn gives me Gladiator vibes. that one he wears when he first gets to the colosseum
The only thing I could think from that thumbnail is bread boys
Danis real criticism is that there isnt enough edge for him.
I like to think he's wearing a skullcap under his hood. Medieval people did that because larger helmets can be cumbersome.
With the new armours out, what has changed? What is the most historically accurate?
0:30 WOOOO!!! LETS GO BP MAINS, THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR
There is no way the nose fits in the sacramentum mortis helm. That nose gotta be cut off to wear it.