I agree.. He was an advocate for trans persons before the word transgender was even a word. And this case is about Danny assaulting and battering another human being. It does not, and should not matter what gender the other person is. All persons should have equal protection living in a civil society with laws. We already know Danny was a drug addict and was known to assault and batter persons. And he probably had targeted this trans person specifically, knowing that (or thought) he could get away with assaulting and battering them and thinking he could get away with it because society had been treating them as second-class citizens. Thankfully, society has evolved and trans persons are getting more and more of the rights that all persons enjoy in our society.
no it was not.. they used transexual transvestite and cross-dresser (at best) back then. And those words have negative connotations and/or do not correctly describe the transgender experience and identity. The word Transgender started to become used around the mid 1990s.. first in places like San Francisco. And it slowly spread.. It was not untill after around 2010 that many "Gay and Lesbian" organizations started to add the word Transgender to their names. And the expression LGBT,, and the T in particular did not get spoken untill the late 1990s and early 2000s.
@@manp1039 Christine Jorgensen started using the term "transgender" rather than "transexual" in the mid nineteen-sixties because she felt the word "sexual" limited the scope of gender identity. She said this in a recorded interview which is available on UA-cam.
"Mona" was on an episode of Taxicab Confessions back in the 90s. I wonder what happened to her. Sadly, as this was 30 years ago, her chances of still being alive are quite slim. Any update on her?
Lets lighten the mood....is it me or Donahue looks like a grown version of the kid in "A Christmas Story" ? 😂. If He say he wants a cowboy shooter toy rifle for Christmas i be no good.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
god this is so dehumanizing....they’re so curious about these woman’s life but are so ignorant and rude throughout the entire process of her just answering the questions that THEY want to know
Silver is pretty and smart .mona is beautiful .Its a shame when people are open about being different that they should be attacked .Yes silver looked more like a woman than the girl who verbally attacked her
Those people have no right booing at Silver after those girls outright called her and the other ones "sick." Really nasty how Silver was just defending herself from that and she gets booed for it.
This is interesting. Lived through this time. Understood talking to transgender/gender non conforming people in this manner was cruel and disturbing. Though looking back? There was no social media world for people to hear the stories of transgender/gender con conforming people. So you’d only have the talk show circuit as the only window to the outside world to the community for these people. Now am happy that things have changed. One thing that younger generations than myself need to realize is that…in order to get to the knowledge we have today is to have gone through times like this in the past. We’re always reinventing ourselves. People like these transsexual sex workers were invisible in decades before this. Now it’s great we can have what’s now called positive representation. But at this time, seeing it on TV in any way was at least visibility. But again, glad we’ve evolved from such presentations of trans people.
I am 🏳️⚧️ and remember the time before the internet. I was 4 when this aired. I'm grateful for the internet because I probably would've unalived myself without the community. I'm pretty sure shows like this and Jerry Springer kept me closeted longer. I remember seeing the hate on TV as a child and trying to suppress everything. Trans (and honestly all queer people) were the modern day sideshow on the talk shows for far too long. It's the only time I'd ever see people like me on TV. It was traumatic in the 1980s and 90s.
Knowing the risks doesn't excuse the crime. In today's society being a teacher there's a risk of a student coming in a shooting you, I'm not gonna say, you knew the risks, don't prosecute the shooter.
The audience member at 35:24 doesn't make sense to me; he think its noble if Groves takes the case for a crap ton of money but not noble if he's doing it because Danny Partridge is famous; neither is noble so what point is the audience member trying to make; the actual reason Groves took the case as mentioned in the beginning of the show because trans people are still people and overlooked because they are viewed as less than in society; Groves is not in it for the money, he's a person for fair treatment of all people.
Well Bonnadouchey NEEDED to have leagal action taken up against his shit-ass. SOMEONE had to represent this assault victim so what's the point of criticising ??
He's a total COWARD DRAMA QUEEN FAKE PHONY CLOSEST CASE NO ONE CARES WHAT HE LIKES OR IS HE REALLY NEEDS TO GET OVER HIMSELF STOP PLAYING STUPID GAMES THAT HE'S ALWAYS PLAYED THIS ISN'T HE'S 1ST TIME WITH A DRAG QUEEN AND CROSS DRESSER HES ALSO KNOWN TO BE THE LIAR HE IS ,
On March 9, 1990, he was arrested while attempting to buy cocaine in Daytona Beach, Florida. Bonaduce was there to host an event for D.A.R.E., an anti-drug campaign aimed at children.[29] Bonaduce was eventually fired from WEGX.[30] He later became the morning shift DJ at KKFR-FM in Phoenix, Arizona. On March 31, 1991, Bonaduce was arrested in Phoenix for beating and robbing Darius Barney, a transvestite prostitute; "authorities said the victim suffered a broken nose and a cut to his face."[31] Soon after, he was fired from KKFR. In July of the same year, Bonaduce pleaded guilty to reduced charges. Amongst his punishments, he was required to pay Barney's medical bills.[32] Later that same year, Bonaduce returned to WEGX in Philadelphia
i think you'll also find he's been on Dr Phil show a few times and been violent all way through his adult life...he's a disgusting human being and caused a lot violence against his wife
I thought it was just me. It takes me back to when I was a kid. This was on our local CBS in the Twin Cities at 8 AM. I only got to watch it summer break but I remember getting to watch it cold winter mornings when I got my yearly cold. Whenever I hear the theme song, I think of how I imagined when I grew up and we would have a wonderful Alberta Clipper shut down the freeway system and all offices would be shut down and I could sit in my fuzzy slippers and robe, drinking my morning coffee, watch Donahue and then go back to my warm bed when it was over. 😂
I wonder what happened to Darius Barney and Silver. I saw Silver on Jennny Jones a few years later and she was now saying she was a transsexual and felt like a female, not a transvestite.
@@terilara8878 The language around being trans has changed a lot over the years, due to LGBT activists who wanted to make them more socially acceptable. You never hear someone call themselves transvestites anymore, and very few will say they are a man who dresses as women sometimes. Now, the narrative is about being born in the wrong body, and they introduced new terms like gender dysphoria. Nowadays, most young gay people identify as trans, particularly lesbians. Its interesting how the language has changed, and its still changing.
@@tubester4567 most transvestites are heterosexual males not homosexuals. And many femenine homosexuals are transsexual because gay is western construction. We live better lives as women
Enjoying Phil’s old programs, a pro at interview. This one angered me. If Bonaduce had such a beautiful loving wife, what was he doing picking up someone else for a sexual encounter, trans or not.
Exotica has nerve to victim blame the person attacked. Talking about she looks real. The clients know the girls are trans, if that's what they look for.
I think it was just the time and place. Exotica and silver (and Mona I think as well) were NY. That’s just city mentality. Also, territorial because they didn’t know Barney from Arizona personally. I think that’s all it really boiled down to in their mindsets. I’m sure they’re attitudes changed over time as well. Not even a few years later New Yorkers really started banding together against violence towards lgbtq people.
It seemed like they were on Donahue to garner free publicity and promote their 'services'. Part of that is ensuring confidentiality for their clientele.
Phil Donahue was always my favorite day time show....he is excellent at showing different views to a subject and popular public opinion. So interesting to watch this show years and years later.
Silver mentioned she had a difficult upbringing / not upbringing... I hope wherever Silver is that happiness is a part of daily life. The last woman's comment was belligerent: it takes a village to raise a child, and it's attitudes like hers which make life a living hell for a lot of children. Hopefully that ignorant woman has since grown up. Peace.
Yeah the woman who made the comment about these people are SICK IS A VERY IGNORANT PERSON HER AND HER GIRLFRIEND BOTH HAVE NO WHERE TO TALK ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT THEM. LOL
WOW MY FRIEND BORIS ALL IN BLACK NEXT TO SILVA. BORIS MAY YOU RIP. BORIS WAS FROM THE HOUSE OF EXOTICA, WITH KENNY,ABLE, ROBERT, NANCY ETC. WOW I LIVE NOW IN VA. I REALLY HAD A GREAT TIME DANCING WITH ALL OF THEM AT SOUND FACTORY ON 18TH ST MANHATTAN, NYC
I just finished watching the Jenny show and I wonder whatever happened to Silver I know Exotica has apparently passed due to AIDS related complications
I knew Mona when he was Pedro. He went to my elementary school and I ran into him a few times through the years up to high school. It's true he always wore women's clothing. At the time of this show's airing I was in high school, I think Pedro had dropped out or otherwise no longer attending school. It was tough watching my classmates reactions the day after this aired but bear in mind, these were immature high schoolers in 1991. And of course we all wondered which gym teacher he slept with!
What I don't understand is why Phil is not taking about HIV. I am sad for any prostitute's. Maybe they could not get a regular job. But my God the disease, the violence they themselves are at risk.
You need to watch more of his shows. Phil was (is) very liberal and progressive. No one in the 80s was interested in and discussing LGBTQ issues. That's where Phil came in. Groundbreaking.
“But you don’t look like a woman you look like a beast” yassss MISS SILVER 👏 this audience should be ashamed of themselves. I understand the times were different but this is so inhumane. I feel the hate radiating off the screen. It’s truly sad and these girls are only opening up and telling you about themselves. Shame on the audience and anyone that agrees with them! (Except for the last 3, they were nice lol)
It's called pro bono. I don't get what the one guys issue was with it. A lot of attorneys take a number of pro bono cases. Usually for people that can't afford an attorney for themselves.
The commercials are heartbreaking. What the hell happened to our world? I was in my 20’s in 1991. I could never have imagined in my worst nightmares what the US has become today.
The extreme control of words means you cannot get the depths of real discussion. You just skirt around it. It treats people like unintelligent infants.
I feel so bad for Silver. He was asking her so many personal and potentially tirggering questions. He's asking about truly traumatic shit, and she clearly looks uncomfortable, I feel so bad for her.
Well he/she's not made of spun glass ! Donahue may've asked some pretty deep questions but at least he's being respectful &fair :) He's trying to suss out the middle ground here ;)
@@brianborchardt7198 you can't use the word you're defining in your definition. you might use similar words but never the actual word youre defining because then it's not a definition. you also can't identify into something that cannot be defined
From the audience, the lady in the overalls, the man in the light pink shirt, and the lady in the black shirt and baseball cap at the very end were making good points.
The content of This is so gross, and it has Nothing to do with Trans people or sex work… As an aside, DB was a VERY “close” friend of my Uncle in the 80’s…my very closeted and very gay uncle…close enough DB would call my MOM for advice… Knowing what I know, I am comfortable in saying that I am VERY CONFIDENT THAT HE KNEW THIS PERSON WAS ASSIGNED MALE AT BIRTH AND POSSESSED MALE GENITALIA DESPITE PRESENTING AS FEMALE… Mainly because I’m confident that he wouldn’t have been interested if this person was NOT in possession of male genitalia…
56:24 “I just wanted to say that I respect all of your rights to do with your life whatever you like, but it’s really a sad comment on our society when you have to risk your life in order to make your living.” Her words really touched me. She’s probably a cool grandma by now.
So, silver was studying psychology and feels what the woman in the audience said about the cycle of SA was a myth.ugh. It’s not a myth. Just because it didn’t contribute to your life decisions doesn’t mean it won’t for others.
It’s true that SA can affect someone’s feelings about sex, in all sorts of complex ways. It’s a myth that queer people were all SA’d or come from dysfunctional families. Psychology students typically learn about the bio-social-psych model. We humans are a complex lot. Genes, prenatal environment, culture, child- and adult-hood experiences, all interact in ways we don’t fully understand. Psychology is officially a couple hundred years old, but we still have lots to learn.
It's sad that we live in a world where we have to figure out what a woman is as well as a man . We tamper too much with what God created. Such is the time we live in.
I now remember seeing this when it first aired. From what I see on the UA-cam currently, there's apparently a clientele that wants these specific services. I cannot imagine growing up in West Virginia being a transvestite. I'll guess that Silver was fortunate to have left WV. For some reason, I'm getting the impression that Silver might be Jewish. I was a little surprised by the booing from the audience. I thought Silver was being authentic.
Silver should be on the stage! This is two different shows! I loved this show and I looked up Jenny Jones, they are performers it’s a totally different energy
The audience loves, Silver! I think I do to. She has not had an easy life. Doing what she has to do to make a living. Good for her that she is going to school. I hope she lands a good career. I think she would make a good actor. She would be great in a crime drama. She could be unintentional comic relief. On a side note...She kinda looks like Chandler's girlfriend Janice from " Friends " lol !
You can tell this show is of it’s time. A lot of what Phil said, would not be tolerated this day and time. Like saying, “if a guy in a dress gets in a car with an unsuspecting man, gets what he deserves.” WOW……how sad
You clearly don't understand that Donahue's job is to reflect the thoughts of the audience no matter how prejudicial; not his personal views. Phil is extremely liberal personally but wants to tease out all views so that discussion can ensue for educational purposes. We are in a much more conservative time today than in the 1980's. Nothing is tolerated today -- only politically correct orthodoxy is tolerated - which is not a good thing leading to the incredible division we now experience.
To be fair, he was saying it from the point of view of the jury, not his own viewpoint, nor was he implying he was agreeing with it. It's just that's the reality of the time, sadly.
I was born in 91' so I was obviously too young to see this but I remember hearing terms like "transvestite" and how normal offensive terms like this were used in the late 90s and even early 00s. For all the negative things social media has brought to the world, it has helped educate people on topics like this.
I was born in 79. Transgender wasn’t a term back then. Transvestite at that time was not considered a slur as it was just what they were designated as. The offensive word back then was quite simply “Tranny”.
Silver carried all the whole show with a lot of wit and character and facts about transexuality and all the audience was doing was being rude very to her which is similar to how they treat and berate all the other guests and minorities they have, so glad times have changed and I live in a bit of a more tolerant and accepted world, I would like to know what silver is up to these days.
I love what the lawyer guy is saying!... he's level headed and speaking fact.. watcing this 30+ yrs after and his comments are the only ones whose 'aged well'
![Donahue - June 13, 1990 - Indecency & Obscenity [FULL EPISODE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Sjwi61HWss/mqdefault.jpg)
Please - APPLAUSE FOR THE LAWYER! He is WAY ahead of time and his client is ever so lucky to have him ❤️🔥
I agree.. He was an advocate for trans persons before the word transgender was even a word. And this case is about Danny assaulting and battering another human being. It does not, and should not matter what gender the other person is. All persons should have equal protection living in a civil society with laws. We already know Danny was a drug addict and was known to assault and batter persons. And he probably had targeted this trans person specifically, knowing that (or thought) he could get away with assaulting and battering them and thinking he could get away with it because society had been treating them as second-class citizens. Thankfully, society has evolved and trans persons are getting more and more of the rights that all persons enjoy in our society.
@@manp1039 the word has been around since 1965, get cultured.
no it was not.. they used transexual transvestite and cross-dresser (at best) back then. And those words have negative connotations and/or do not correctly describe the transgender experience and identity. The word Transgender started to become used around the mid 1990s.. first in places like San Francisco. And it slowly spread.. It was not untill after around 2010 that many "Gay and Lesbian" organizations started to add the word Transgender to their names. And the expression LGBT,, and the T in particular did not get spoken untill the late 1990s and early 2000s.
@@manp1039 Christine Jorgensen started using the term "transgender" rather than "transexual" in the mid nineteen-sixties because she felt the word "sexual" limited the scope of gender identity. She said this in a recorded interview which is available on UA-cam.
@@lottaandgus link pls
thanks for uploading. it's really interesting watching these old donahue shows. even the commercials.
silver: "i'm a man, i look like a man, "i don't really look like a woman"
comment section: "she,
she,
she,
she,
she,
she."
13:50
@II-wx4kvindeed
He.
…?
I would love to know how all the guest of this show are doing today.
I always wonder that. even the audience.
Yes, me too. What happened to Darius Barney and Silver? I know that Silver was on Jenny Jones after this show. I think it was a few years later.
Shelby Miller, what do mean by ur comment x by the way 2 of them r transvestite
She means that life for trans people is tough so average life expectancy is only 35. You can read right?
Princess Taboo i know this is REALLY late but can you link it to me i’m interested
"Only in America." No, Mr Donahue. This has been going on in other countries for centuries.
Let me guess, you’re an AmeriKKKan, a RepubliKlan specifically..?
@@JudeTavonFenwick No, I'm a progressive from Europe.
"Mona" was on an episode of Taxicab Confessions back in the 90s. I wonder what happened to her. Sadly, as this was 30 years ago, her chances of still being alive are quite slim. Any update on her?
I would like to know where all of them are now.
@@Cloud48004 dead
@4dagurls how did you learn this? What was Mona's real name? RIP ♥️
Please do not call the number listed as this show was taped in 1991
lol
😂😂😂...Too funny
Sports Fan duhhhhhh
I called the number & it was your mother.
rebeka talebi
Damn the joke came from 1991 too
Lets lighten the mood....is it me or Donahue looks like a grown version of the kid in "A Christmas Story" ? 😂. If He say he wants a cowboy shooter toy rifle for Christmas i be no good....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep!😂
lol
20:52 Granny: This shit is better than the retirement home. 😂
Saw that too.
god this is so dehumanizing....they’re so curious about these woman’s life but are so ignorant and rude throughout the entire process of her just answering the questions that THEY want to know
These aren't woman per se.
Yet they're taking on a feminine kind of role &I empathize with them.
It's not a her, it's a man! Period....
Leave the name of the mighty out.
Your comment is dehumanizing & rude too.
@@increible3894 huh?
They’re dehumanizing themselves.
Silver deserved their own talk show, what a special human being. Wherever you are, I hope you are happy.
I'd watch that!
I saw Silver and the others on a Jenny Jones show. I’d love 💕 to know how they’re doing today.
Silver is pretty and smart .mona is beautiful .Its a shame when people are open about being different that they should be attacked .Yes silver looked more like a woman than the girl who verbally attacked her
Back in the day, people could defend themselves without canceling anyone.
no, cancelling people teaches them a lesson.
We should not cancel please
No more silencing people
You can just choose to not listen. But silencing is wrong.
@tfufuufuffyfuugigi1420look at today lol we everywhere babes
@@kandulakotuwila3684canceling ppl makes you weak and too sensitive… the truth is the truth
@@wettaloca2923so people can freely say all they want? And not face any consequence?
Those people have no right booing at Silver after those girls outright called her and the other ones "sick." Really nasty how Silver was just defending herself from that and she gets booed for it.
He is sick. He’s spreading diseases to married men who are in turn, infecting their innocent wives.
Silver is a he. He knows it. He wasn't crazy. Just liked to dress like a woman
This is interesting. Lived through this time. Understood talking to transgender/gender non conforming people in this manner was cruel and disturbing. Though looking back? There was no social media world for people to hear the stories of transgender/gender con conforming people. So you’d only have the talk show circuit as the only window to the outside world to the community for these people. Now am happy that things have changed. One thing that younger generations than myself need to realize is that…in order to get to the knowledge we have today is to have gone through times like this in the past. We’re always reinventing ourselves. People like these transsexual sex workers were invisible in decades before this. Now it’s great we can have what’s now called positive representation. But at this time, seeing it on TV in any way was at least visibility. But again, glad we’ve evolved from such presentations of trans people.
Very well said
I am 🏳️⚧️ and remember the time before the internet. I was 4 when this aired. I'm grateful for the internet because I probably would've unalived myself without the community. I'm pretty sure shows like this and Jerry Springer kept me closeted longer. I remember seeing the hate on TV as a child and trying to suppress everything. Trans (and honestly all queer people) were the modern day sideshow on the talk shows for far too long. It's the only time I'd ever see people like me on TV. It was traumatic in the 1980s and 90s.
Silver's point was "know the risks,its not right but it can happen,you gotta know the risks involved in the things you do."
Knowing the risks doesn't excuse the crime. In today's society being a teacher there's a risk of a student coming in a shooting you, I'm not gonna say, you knew the risks, don't prosecute the shooter.
You need a moral compass.
@@dans9463 i dont even remember what this was about this is a year old comment lol
Silver is very obviously a comedian. She's actually pretty good and her natural ability with humor makes me think she does drag, standup, or both.
Does anyone know what happened to these interviewees? I'm aware 'Boris' Exotica died in 1994 from AIDS-related complications.
E C where did you find this out?
@DMB Yes, here you go. I also appear to have been mistaken, Exotica passed in 1996: m.facebook.com/theaidsmemorial/posts/1341991156139277
@@EC-yq4im she said he was o.k😭
The audience member at 35:24 doesn't make sense to me; he think its noble if Groves takes the case for a crap ton of money but not noble if he's doing it because Danny Partridge is famous; neither is noble so what point is the audience member trying to make; the actual reason Groves took the case as mentioned in the beginning of the show because trans people are still people and overlooked because they are viewed as less than in society; Groves is not in it for the money, he's a person for fair treatment of all people.
Well Bonnadouchey NEEDED to have leagal action taken up against his shit-ass.
SOMEONE had to represent this assault victim so what's the point of criticising ??
It would have been funny if Danny Bonaduce walked in at the end.
He's a total COWARD DRAMA QUEEN FAKE PHONY CLOSEST CASE NO ONE CARES WHAT HE LIKES OR IS HE REALLY NEEDS TO GET OVER HIMSELF STOP PLAYING STUPID GAMES THAT HE'S ALWAYS PLAYED THIS ISN'T HE'S 1ST TIME WITH A DRAG QUEEN AND CROSS DRESSER HES ALSO KNOWN TO BE THE LIAR HE IS ,
40:10 - Donahue's fast, "You wouldn't treat a CLIENT this way!"
On March 9, 1990, he was arrested while attempting to buy cocaine in Daytona Beach, Florida. Bonaduce was there to host an event for D.A.R.E., an anti-drug campaign aimed at children.[29] Bonaduce was eventually fired from WEGX.[30] He later became the morning shift DJ at KKFR-FM in Phoenix, Arizona.
On March 31, 1991, Bonaduce was arrested in Phoenix for beating and robbing Darius Barney, a transvestite prostitute; "authorities said the victim suffered a broken nose and a cut to his face."[31] Soon after, he was fired from KKFR. In July of the same year, Bonaduce pleaded guilty to reduced charges. Amongst his punishments, he was required to pay Barney's medical bills.[32] Later that same year, Bonaduce returned to WEGX in Philadelphia
i think you'll also find he's been on Dr Phil show a few times and been violent all way through his adult life...he's a disgusting human being and caused a lot violence against his wife
102.5 hired the Dj who "killed" that woman on the wii water situation after 107.9 dropped him. Were still shocked that was able to happen.
Phil's theme song soothes my soul.
It is smooth and jazzy.
Mine too. Takes me back to being a little kid in the 90s
I thought it was just me. It takes me back to when I was a kid. This was on our local CBS in the Twin Cities at 8 AM. I only got to watch it summer break but I remember getting to watch it cold winter mornings when I got my yearly cold. Whenever I hear the theme song, I think of how I imagined when I grew up and we would have a wonderful Alberta Clipper shut down the freeway system and all offices would be shut down and I could sit in my fuzzy slippers and robe, drinking my morning coffee, watch Donahue and then go back to my warm bed when it was over. 😂
Exotica died from Aids. Its so sad. She was gorgeous.
He
@@michaelsuder486 Sheeeeeeeeeeeeee
The great Phil Donahue! His show was one of a kind and ahead of its time!
SUCKS!!!! THE WORST
I'm not sure I would use the phrase "ahead of it's time", with the type of comments made...
I like Silver a lot. She stands up for herself very well without being hateful. I love how she shuts down the questions she has no time for.
Its a gentleman not a she
As soon as you used the word "IT", you became a lost case.
@@geupelboi well you smell todd you smell . Sorry to say it.
@@geupelboi i do not work in IT bu the way
@@elgeneralxx SHE/ HER😊 whether you like it or NOT she's a WOMAN have a blessed day. 😊
I wonder what happened to Darius Barney and Silver. I saw Silver on Jennny Jones a few years later and she was now saying she was a transsexual and felt like a female, not a transvestite.
transsexual wasn't even a term back then. i wonder if a lot of the transvestites were actually transsexual.
@@terilara8878 The language around being trans has changed a lot over the years, due to LGBT activists who wanted to make them more socially acceptable. You never hear someone call themselves transvestites anymore, and very few will say they are a man who dresses as women sometimes. Now, the narrative is about being born in the wrong body, and they introduced new terms like gender dysphoria. Nowadays, most young gay people identify as trans, particularly lesbians. Its interesting how the language has changed, and its still changing.
@@terilara8878 transsexual existed back then since 50s look at Christine Jorgensen and April Ashley.
@@tubester4567 most transvestites are heterosexual males not homosexuals. And many femenine homosexuals are transsexual because gay is western construction. We live better lives as women
@David Vanpatten shut up straight dude
Enjoying Phil’s old programs, a pro at interview. This one angered me. If Bonaduce had such a beautiful loving wife, what was he doing picking up someone else for a sexual encounter, trans or not.
Times have changed since this show has aired …
Yes......SADLY.
@@bobroberts2316Sadly? Times have gotten better.
@@stanbily9416 Yeah....for the weirdos and degenerates in society.
For those of us who are normal.....
not so much.
@@stanbily9416 they have not, unfortunately.
For the worse
Dig the prices of the cheeseburgers 59 and 69 cents
Exotica has nerve to victim blame the person attacked. Talking about she looks real. The clients know the girls are trans, if that's what they look for.
I think it was just the time and place. Exotica and silver (and Mona I think as well) were NY. That’s just city mentality. Also, territorial because they didn’t know Barney from Arizona personally. I think that’s all it really boiled down to in their mindsets. I’m sure they’re attitudes changed over time as well. Not even a few years later New Yorkers really started banding together against violence towards lgbtq people.
@@williamgeorgelopezjunior8533 silver is from West Virginia
None of these men are “girls”. Stop it. 🙄
They are not lbgqrst people. They are freaks. Thank you very much.
It seemed like they were on Donahue to garner free publicity and promote their 'services'. Part of that is ensuring confidentiality for their clientele.
Phil Donahue was always my favorite day time show....he is excellent at showing different views to a subject and popular public opinion. So interesting to watch this show years and years later.
" what offend you, reveals you"
Is the audio on this video almost inaudibly quiet for anyone else? I can barely understand anything.
yes I have it on headphones and they are nearly turned all the way up.
Normal audio on the left. Right is almost nothing
Same l carn't hear it very well eighter
Listening on my Samsung Galaxy Note and it is normal
Silver mentioned she had a difficult upbringing / not upbringing... I hope wherever Silver is that happiness is a part of daily life. The last woman's comment was belligerent: it takes a village to raise a child, and it's attitudes like hers which make life a living hell for a lot of children. Hopefully that ignorant woman has since grown up. Peace.
Yeah the woman who made the comment about these people are SICK IS A VERY IGNORANT PERSON HER AND HER GIRLFRIEND BOTH HAVE NO WHERE TO TALK ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT THEM. LOL
Wow. We’ve come a long way. Thank goodness.
If you knew Jesus you wouldn’t feel this way. You cannot hear his voice because you are not his sheep.
@@markmcgowan5656 Stop judging leave that up to your boy Jesus
@@shannonliim When you sit before his throne, and that will be very soon. I suggest you don’t refer to him as boy.
@@markmcgowan5656 grow up.
@@shannonliim Do you get your wisdom from ace of base or blackstreet?
WOW MY FRIEND BORIS ALL IN BLACK NEXT TO SILVA. BORIS MAY YOU RIP.
BORIS WAS FROM THE HOUSE OF EXOTICA, WITH KENNY,ABLE, ROBERT, NANCY ETC. WOW I LIVE NOW IN VA. I REALLY HAD A GREAT TIME DANCING WITH ALL OF THEM AT SOUND FACTORY ON 18TH ST
MANHATTAN, NYC
Oh dang. She was pretty. She was on the Jenny Jones show too. Mind me asking what happened? Sorry if that’s disrespectful.
How did she die ?
@@michellec3558 She stopped breathing
R.I.P., right audio channel.
Not so much "anti-trans violence" as "dishonest advertising".
The amount of ads is crazy
I just finished watching the Jenny show and I wonder whatever happened to Silver I know Exotica has apparently passed due to AIDS related complications
I knew Mona when he was Pedro. He went to my elementary school and I ran into him a few times through the years up to high school. It's true he always wore women's clothing. At the time of this show's airing I was in high school, I think Pedro had dropped out or otherwise no longer attending school. It was tough watching my classmates reactions the day after this aired but bear in mind, these were immature high schoolers in 1991. And of course we all wondered which gym teacher he slept with!
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Is this silver from jenny jones show
Laughing at the commercials, remembering them as a kid how "WOW" they were. And now looking at them and it's like who tf bought this sh!t.
Did you see the adverts ??especially for Toyota cars 😂
My first car was a used Toyota from that era! 🤎 🚗 Watching all those old ads was WILD!!!
Wonder whatever happened to Silver
Silver seems lovely and shame on anyone who booed her. She was harming no one or did nothing wrong.
You smell
He’s disgusting.
He/she was loud, obnoxious, and rude.
What messed up reality do you live in?
@@bobroberts2316How was she rude for expressing her opinion?
@@bobroberts2316so what should happen to rude and obnoxious people?
What I don't understand is why Phil is not taking about HIV. I am sad for any prostitute's. Maybe they could not get a regular job. But my God the disease, the violence they themselves are at risk.
You need to watch more of his shows. Phil was (is) very liberal and progressive. No one in the 80s was interested in and discussing LGBTQ issues. That's where Phil came in. Groundbreaking.
Phil absolutely talked about HIV back in the 80s.
@II-wx4kv He's not gay.
@II-wx4kv Same reason I'm not a woman but I care about women's rights. It's called being a human.
They do bring it up
These people were also on Jenny Jones’s show! I’d love to know how they’re doing now!
The Hawaiian/Asian looking one died of AIDs. Not sure of the others...
Where is Silver at nowadays?
“But you don’t look like a woman you look like a beast” yassss MISS SILVER 👏 this audience should be ashamed of themselves. I understand the times were different but this is so inhumane. I feel the hate radiating off the screen. It’s truly sad and these girls are only opening up and telling you about themselves. Shame on the audience and anyone that agrees with them! (Except for the last 3, they were nice lol)
MONA IS GROSS. KEEPS PUTTING HER TONGUE OUT;
What’s inhumane is prostitution.
@@MsJonessss get a life.
how about putting Danny in prison
Danny has always been a mess. He's still irritating.
It's called pro bono. I don't get what the one guys issue was with it. A lot of attorneys take a number of pro bono cases. Usually for people that can't afford an attorney for themselves.
Where's Silver today?
Stephanie Jade that's what im trying to know. Some people were saying that most of them passed but can't seem to back that claim.
a younger Jerry Springer who was a huge fan of Donahue saw this and thought OMG I can exploit these people and make millions. 😆
@16:30 “Well, when I first heard about the story, I waa.. Danny Bonaduce, who the hell is that? Somebody from Brooklyn?”
😂😂😂😂
That killed me.
At least they didn't think they were women back then. Just men in dresses.
Old Phil!!! Off the chain!!!
The commercials are heartbreaking. What the hell happened to our world? I was in my 20’s in 1991. I could never have imagined in my worst nightmares what the US has become today.
I'm not offended by any of the language. We live in such a soft, crybaby world today.
The extreme control of words means you cannot get the depths of real discussion. You just skirt around it. It treats people like unintelligent infants.
You're offended when others are offended? Ok. Lol
How does a person from West Virginia have a New York accent 😂
They came to NYC when they were 13… and adopted a New York lifestyle. Pretty simple math
Came there as a kid probably
@@LaLagunz187 37:40
Silver was quite the storyteller.
silver is cute , seems like a good person
She's witty and cute. I hope she's well and found happiness and what she sought.
She's alive?
I feel so bad for Silver. He was asking her so many personal and potentially tirggering questions. He's asking about truly traumatic shit, and she clearly looks uncomfortable, I feel so bad for her.
You mean he silver is a man. These people... Probably fart in there own mouth
@@elgeneralxx Possibly, but you *definitely* need to stop eating shit and stop hating on people for no reason.
Well he/she's not made of spun glass !
Donahue may've asked some pretty deep questions but at least he's being respectful &fair :)
He's trying to suss out the middle ground here ;)
@@elgeneralxx geez, good luck with growing up. It might happen for you, one day
@@camerong5513 good luck with common sense. I won’t hold my breath.
Silver is hilarious, would have made a great contestant on Ru Paul's drag race.
"You don't look like a woman! You look like a bee!" -- DEAD.
A woman is an adult human female ...
A woman is anyone who identifies as a woman.
@@brianborchardt7198 you can't use the word you're defining in your definition. you might use similar words but never the actual word youre defining because then it's not a definition. you also can't identify into something that cannot be defined
So that's what a woman is, eh?
@@erikbunty2016you tell me. It's culturally and socially defined with much variance throughout the world.
Exact airdate, please?
love the commercials!
From the audience, the lady in the overalls, the man in the light pink shirt, and the lady in the black shirt and baseball cap at the very end were making good points.
The content of This is so gross, and it has Nothing to do with Trans people or sex work…
As an aside, DB was a VERY “close” friend of my Uncle in the 80’s…my very closeted and very gay uncle…close enough DB would call my MOM for advice…
Knowing what I know, I am comfortable in saying that I am VERY CONFIDENT THAT HE KNEW THIS PERSON WAS ASSIGNED MALE AT BIRTH AND POSSESSED MALE GENITALIA DESPITE PRESENTING AS FEMALE…
Mainly because I’m confident that he wouldn’t have been interested if this person was NOT in possession of male genitalia…
Silver's personality, mannerisms, voice and hand gestures is giving much Joy Bahar from "The View".
You’re blind and deaf, clearly.
Who set the bar down?
I'm sorry but that toyota song 😂😂 made me giggle
🎶We Got A Whole Lotta Deals For You🎶😁
56:24 “I just wanted to say that I respect all of your rights to do with your life whatever you like, but it’s really a sad comment on our society when you have to risk your life in order to make your living.” Her words really touched me. She’s probably a cool grandma by now.
How can you look at that face (Silver) and not see that that is not a man?
who cares
I don't believe Danny would be reduced to soliciting ANYTHING from this person.
So, silver was studying psychology and feels what the woman in the audience said about the cycle of SA was a myth.ugh. It’s not a myth. Just because it didn’t contribute to your life decisions doesn’t mean it won’t for others.
It’s true that SA can affect someone’s feelings about sex, in all sorts of complex ways. It’s a myth that queer people were all SA’d or come from dysfunctional families.
Psychology students typically learn about the bio-social-psych model. We humans are a complex lot. Genes, prenatal environment, culture, child- and adult-hood experiences, all interact in ways we don’t fully understand. Psychology is officially a couple hundred years old, but we still have lots to learn.
The youth these days will never know ☕️👀
Volume is horrible
21:38 Donahue theme song
It's sad that we live in a world where we have to figure out what a woman is as well as a man . We tamper too much with what God created. Such is the time we live in.
everything was better in the 90's! even the ads!
At least there were a few standards remaining in society
Dr Ruth and Gilbert Godfrey was an unexpected highlight.
Look at that trend setter with that winged eye 👁
I now remember seeing this when it first aired. From what I see on the UA-cam currently, there's apparently a clientele that wants these specific services. I cannot imagine growing up in West Virginia being a transvestite. I'll guess that Silver was fortunate to have left WV. For some reason, I'm getting the impression that Silver might be Jewish. I was a little surprised by the booing from the audience. I thought Silver was being authentic.
Idk if there’s too many Jewish families in west Virginia. He puts on a stereotypical “Jewish woman” affect, but that’s it.
Silver looks SO much like my (female) college roommate, 1988. She was a self-proclaimed "JAP." I think Silver is her actual surname.
Good video
This is addictive viewing
Silver should be on the stage! This is two different shows! I loved this show and I looked up Jenny Jones, they are performers it’s a totally different energy
He’s probably dead by now.
Sound sucks :(
The Toyota camry commercial fucked me up, I mean im only 32 not that old but damn thats an old ass car
Right on girly ❤
DMB, well your really pretty for being as vintage as me in age
DMB, idk why but that seemed hot.
I'll sit & stare at a classic all day, even wiper down time from time
DMB, ill even spit on it before applying pressure 😉😉😉. People were really kinky back in the good ol classic days. Call me Jessie James
The audience loves, Silver! I think I do to. She has not had an easy life. Doing what she has to do to make a living. Good for her that she is going to school. I hope she lands a good career. I think she would make a good actor. She would be great in a crime drama. She could be unintentional comic relief. On a side note...She kinda looks like Chandler's girlfriend Janice from " Friends " lol !
I know I love Silver. She is fascinating and very likable. Very smart. I hope all her dreams have come true.
He’s hideous.
He looks like Adam Sandler
Whether we want to admit it or not. This society still has a problem with the gay and trans community😡
Deal with it or STFU, whiny ass
You can tell this show is of it’s time. A lot of what Phil said, would not be tolerated this day and time. Like saying, “if a guy in a dress gets in a car with an unsuspecting man, gets what he deserves.” WOW……how sad
You clearly don't understand that Donahue's job is to reflect the thoughts of the audience no matter how prejudicial; not his personal views. Phil is extremely liberal personally but wants to tease out all views so that discussion can ensue for educational purposes. We are in a much more conservative time today than in the 1980's. Nothing is tolerated today -- only politically correct orthodoxy is tolerated - which is not a good thing leading to the incredible division we now experience.
To be fair, he was saying it from the point of view of the jury, not his own viewpoint, nor was he implying he was agreeing with it. It's just that's the reality of the time, sadly.
Make this viral
I like this Silver fella... He has common sense even if he lives in his interesting world...
The ignorance in these comments show how the same ignorance in this video hasn’t changed a bit
Only a bit, unfortunately.
I was born in 91' so I was obviously too young to see this but I remember hearing terms like "transvestite" and how normal offensive terms like this were used in the late 90s and even early 00s. For all the negative things social media has brought to the world, it has helped educate people on topics like this.
I was born in 79. Transgender wasn’t a term back then. Transvestite at that time was not considered a slur as it was just what they were designated as. The offensive word back then was quite simply “Tranny”.
Silver was awesome! Hopefully she's still around. ❤
Sadly, Phil was fired from MSNBC because of his anti-war sentiments during President Bush’s “War on Terrorism”.
@@fredrickfrederickson5246 ???
Silver carried all the whole show with a lot of wit and character and facts about transexuality and all the audience was doing was being rude very to her which is similar to how they treat and berate all the other guests and minorities they have, so glad times have changed and I live in a bit of a more tolerant and accepted world, I would like to know what silver is up to these days.
Silver unfortunately went in the public bathroom for smelling bad and got beat up pretty bad.. yep!! Thats what happens when your a weirdo!
He’s not a transsexual. He’s a tranvestitie prostitute. These are GAY MEN. stop calling them women.
Whatever happened to SILVER?
Who cares trash
I love what the lawyer guy is saying!... he's level headed and speaking fact.. watcing this 30+ yrs after and his comments are the only ones whose 'aged well'
My question to the girl who called them sick. If that's how you feel, why did you come to the show?
Because the scheduled guests were Milli Vanilli but they cancelled