@@millll111lllIjust shop around for 7.62×39 on Ammoseek. The big online ammo retailers are getting in cans of old Yugo/Soviet/combloc milsurp constantly. It's expensive as fuck now though, one of those cans usually goes for over $300 so I'd go for some place that offers free shipping.
+Ngọc Kim Quang Hồ Tell him that he can either sit his happy ass down and wait, OR start manufacturing bullets from thin air if he thinks its faster :)
i was going to make a joke about 1976 soviet era, when everyone including the air in this ammo spam can dreamed about escaping the USSSR but then i decided not to.
Every video I see says you can hear the air escape when they first puncture the top of the can. They are wrong, the cans are not pressurized, they are vaccume sealed. When you puncture the top the sound you hear will be air sucking into the can, not escaping !
01:36 The codes on the ammo crate read: *5,45 гс ПС* = 5,45 (5.45x39mm M74 cartridge), "gs" (Gil'za Stal_ > "[lacquered] steel cartridge case"), "PS" ( _Pulya Stalnoi_ > "Bullet with Steel penetrator"). *M37 - 76 - 339* = Lot M37, Year of Production 1976, Factory Line 339. *2160 Шт.* = 2160 "sht." ( _shtuka_ > "Pieces", Quantity of items) Contains 2160 rounds of ammunition. There are 2 x 1080-round "spam cans" per crate. *СФ033Фп 14/76 M* = Powder Type "SF033fn", Powder Batch 14 of Year 1976, Powder Mill "M". The overstamp on the left-hand side is the UN LOCODE for the ammunition. 00:53 The codes on the ammo can reads: *5,45 гс ПС* = As above. *B03 - 77 -270* = Lot V03 - 1977 - State Factory 270 [Lugansk Cartridge Works (Luhansk, Ukraine)] *1080 Шт.* = 1080 rounds. 36 x 30-round packets. *ВЧ545Фп 16/76 K* = Powder Type "VU545fn", Powder Batch 16 of Year 1976, Powder Mill "K".
Very nice. One nit-pick - there are two ways ammo can corrode. One is by moisture, like you said, and these sealed cans will indeed prevent that from happening as long as the can doesn't rust all the way through from the outside. The other way, though, is by decomposition of the smokeless powder, which happens slowly over time even without any moisture. This produces nitric acid which corrodes the cartridge cases from the inside out. Inhibitors are added to the powder to prevent this, but eventually the inhibitors are used up (because they are consumed by reaction with the nitric acid) and the cases will corrode. If the cases are lacquered on the inside, this process is slowed down even further. Like most chemical processes, this is exponentially temperature dependent - so storing the ammo in a cool environment will make the decomposition orders of magnitude slower than in a very hot environment. At room temperature, cases which are not lacquered on the inside will suffer this corrosion fate in about 70 years. Internally-lacquered cases will last 80 to 100 years.
I could imagine a situation i would be in and use this. Thank you. I picture an apocalyptic type situation where a man in a burlac cloak would be sitting in a bunker, staring at the case not knowing how to open it.
When western companies started buying surplus ammo from Bulgaria some of them wanted to repack the ammo, they would open the cans and to put the ammo in the crates because they hold more. Some times you would find crates without the metal band because every year ammo from every lot must be checked for corrosion, overpressure etc.
I was always amazed at how much time it takes to open these, even with a can opener. If I were in a combat situation, I'd be dead before I could get that can open! Somewhere I have one of those can openers, I need to find it again. I have three cases of the SPAM canned ammo, but prefer to leave it sealed at the moment. I just use commercial stuff for now at about $6.00 for 20 rounds.
Thinking of possibly investing in a milsurp rifle. Not expensive but with history. Thanks for the great idea of opening it the decorative way that still keeps the lid intact. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to fit it back on after opening like that, even if it wouldn't be as air tight.
It seems like you can use the concrete rubbing trick with those, too. Don't know if you would consider this safe (don't see any reason why it wouldn't be), but if you were to take a tuna can (for instance) and rub that top ridge back & forth along the concrete it would grind that seam away so the can will open (you'll know you've ground enough from the ground being wet). It seems like the same type of can design, so it should work- you could probably use a file/sharpener/abrasive rock as well.
This helps anyone, like myself, that buys soviet era ammo in bulk. I have a store that I work in and we sell guns I.e. mosins the come in these cans for ammo. I've seen someone use a power sae to open one and holy shit I was scared, the chisel way helps because we don't always keep the openers or they don't come with the ammo. Thanks
Ever seen footwraps? Great thing to know to do (they're like socks, but easier to improvise & custom fit- plus they dry quicker & easier and you can wrap insulation like grass, newspaper, seat cushioning, etc... for warmth). As a trick, since you seem to like MacGyver-type stuff (as do I)- you can stuff grass into a shoe that's too big for your foot to make it fit better. there's a book: Makeshift Workshop Vol 1 & 2 that covers plenty of stuff like that.
Personally, I just used my pocketknife. I can also open cans of food with it. Very difficult, also makes a lot of messy sharp points around the edge that could easily cut you (In Soviet Russia, can opens YOU!'). Still, better to have a sharp can and a slightly temporarily dulled knife, than to have an empty rifle ;)
Americans always did it better. The US can is air tight & water proof, the ammo will last forever. You dont need any tools to open it just your hands . The best part is the can has a carry handle. They can be reused for anything including carring water.🍺
That is funny! Well, that's good to know. I'm suprised you never did a video on footwraps. I've seen how to do it, but that's a good trick that not too many people know. Talk about a zombie apocalypse skill! Apparently, mountain men used to do that, too. I'd think you could use brain-tanned leather, too (frequently called buckskin, it's fairly absorbant & probably breathable enough). Furs would work for the winter, but might need to be brain-tanned, as well.
Watching this in 2020 makes me so sad I didn't buy pallets of that badass 7N6 ammo when it was $170 per wood crate with two 1,080 round cans in it! 😥 Man I wish I had a time machine. I'd go back and buy a dumpster full of 7N6, $10 bakelite and circle 10 waffle mags.
I heard that you can open these sorts of cans by rubbing the crimped edges on top against an abrasive surface until you get through the metal. I think this would be a great way to reuse the box to store the ammo (After some modifications) or to store other stuff. Any chance you could do a video to see if this works??
For all you guys asking where you can get them from just go to google and type in whatever caliber you want and after that type in spam can for sale. EX. 7.62x54r spam can for sale. Hope this helped and good luck!
KGB Survivalist How long did it take you to do the decorative way? Also do you have to use it a certain angle, cause it doesn't seem to not to have enough room to clear the lip and the bottom of the lid.. FYI.. I am doing this on a 7.62x54r can. Thank you
Just got a mosin and some spam cans. But the factory number is a 10 inside 2 quartered circles. The ammo was made in 1971 if that helps, does anyone know what factory this came from?
Back in old days of Soviet expansion in Afghanistan, in a time of hot battle, we had no time to use such a fancy methods for can opening. So instead, we were just using an Electric Super Can Opener 9000 to do this job in a half of a second.
Had a friend buy one of these in the early 1990s. He was in sheet-metal at the time, so lacking a Soviet tin-tool, he had to break out his own metal shears.
Good video! I was wondering where you get your ammo from tho? Every place I have says I can only get 1 per transaction and I was wanting to buy 2 so I can get the wood crate. Please and thank you. :)
1080 rounds per can, 2 cans per crate, is 2160 rounds for about $200= 10.8 cents per round. you can get it at a the store, gun show, or order it and have it mailed to your house and get free shipping too
I never knew that the soviets packed there ammo so neatly and thoughtfully
This can openers are often get lost. In this case we just use standart-issue bayonet for AK. And this ammo crates are called "Цинк" (Zync).
I got a case of this just a couple weeks ago. 7.62 x 39 mil spec lacquer coated sealed primer. Excellent quality packing and great ammo.
@@fullcontact5732 Where from? I want to get a crate like this just for the novelty
@@millll111lllIjust shop around for 7.62×39 on Ammoseek. The big online ammo retailers are getting in cans of old Yugo/Soviet/combloc milsurp constantly. It's expensive as fuck now though, one of those cans usually goes for over $300 so I'd go for some place that offers free shipping.
"Their"
Worst case scenario, you can flip it over and slide it back and forth on flat concrete or pavement to grind off the raised lip.
Krixig Which works suprizeingly well
Krixig You will know that is considered (very) anoying after your neighbor shows up with a god damn AK while you're getting sweaty trying... =]]]]]]]
+Ngọc Kim Quang Hồ Tell him that he can either sit his happy ass down and wait, OR start manufacturing bullets from thin air if he thinks its faster :)
+Krixig A 4" grinder works also, not a cut off but a grinding wheel. Takes about a minute !!
You know, for some reason, thats like the ONLY power tool I dont have, and I have no idea why. But its certainly a legit solution!
That is not 1976 air escaping Its 2013 air rushing in. The cans are vacuum packed
HAhahahahaha best slap ever. try Blat' next time cause it sounds like sooka boolat XD
Your so smart☺
i was going to make a joke about 1976 soviet era, when everyone including the air in this ammo spam can dreamed about escaping the USSSR but then i decided not to.
You are wrong
I like the decorative way of opening the can because I am left handed and it just kooks better! Thanks for the tip. Keep up the good work!
Every video I see says you can hear the air escape when they first puncture the top of the can. They are wrong, the cans are not pressurized, they are vaccume sealed. When you puncture the top the sound you hear will be air sucking into the can, not escaping !
did you ever open up a can of coffee, that's air going in, its vacuum packed.
01:36 The codes on the ammo crate read:
*5,45 гс ПС* = 5,45 (5.45x39mm M74 cartridge), "gs" (Gil'za Stal_ > "[lacquered] steel cartridge case"), "PS" ( _Pulya Stalnoi_ > "Bullet with Steel penetrator").
*M37 - 76 - 339* = Lot M37, Year of Production 1976, Factory Line 339.
*2160 Шт.* = 2160 "sht." ( _shtuka_ > "Pieces", Quantity of items) Contains 2160 rounds of ammunition. There are 2 x 1080-round "spam cans" per crate.
*СФ033Фп 14/76 M* = Powder Type "SF033fn", Powder Batch 14 of Year 1976, Powder Mill "M".
The overstamp on the left-hand side is the UN LOCODE for the ammunition.
00:53 The codes on the ammo can reads:
*5,45 гс ПС* = As above.
*B03 - 77 -270* = Lot V03 - 1977 - State Factory 270 [Lugansk Cartridge Works (Luhansk, Ukraine)]
*1080 Шт.* = 1080 rounds. 36 x 30-round packets.
*ВЧ545Фп 16/76 K* = Powder Type "VU545fn", Powder Batch 16 of Year 1976, Powder Mill "K".
1080p = 1080 pieces
Very nice. One nit-pick - there are two ways ammo can corrode. One is by moisture, like you said, and these sealed cans will indeed prevent that from happening as long as the can doesn't rust all the way through from the outside. The other way, though, is by decomposition of the smokeless powder, which happens slowly over time even without any moisture. This produces nitric acid which corrodes the cartridge cases from the inside out. Inhibitors are added to the powder to prevent this, but eventually the inhibitors are used up (because they are consumed by reaction with the nitric acid) and the cases will corrode. If the cases are lacquered on the inside, this process is slowed down even further. Like most chemical processes, this is exponentially temperature dependent - so storing the ammo in a cool environment will make the decomposition orders of magnitude slower than in a very hot environment. At room temperature, cases which are not lacquered on the inside will suffer this corrosion fate in about 70 years. Internally-lacquered cases will last 80 to 100 years.
I could imagine a situation i would be in and use this. Thank you. I picture an apocalyptic type situation where a man in a burlac cloak would be sitting in a bunker, staring at the case not knowing how to open it.
It's hard watching him open 3 of these in 2020...
It's worse in 2024.
Last video I watched was Chinese surplus opening. I'm amazed at how both nations packaged their ammo, simple and effective, to keep it good.
Great video. It's always interesting to see how Soviet soldiers did things, it's not always the same way as one might imagine. Nicely done!
Thanks. Just opened my 1st tin of 5.45 from 1979.
Looking forward to trying it out in my PSAK 105. Never shot this type of ammo previously
When western companies started buying surplus ammo from Bulgaria some of them wanted to repack the ammo, they would open the cans and to put the ammo in the crates because they hold more. Some times you would find crates without the metal band because every year ammo from every lot must be checked for corrosion, overpressure etc.
The sound sync is about 4 decades off.
I don't watch your vids for tutorial, I watch it because it is entertaining, keep up with the good work!
Thanks. Found exactly one of this ammo can in my grandfathers house and was scaried to open it. But that helped me alot !
Although this video had no use to me at all, I still found this very interesting and entertaining, keep up the good work
Thanks, that is a very useful bit of info, since I don't have the "can opener" but a chisel and hammer, I do have.
I was always amazed at how much time it takes to open these, even with a can opener. If I were in a combat situation, I'd be dead before I could get that can open! Somewhere I have one of those can openers, I need to find it again. I have three cases of the SPAM canned ammo, but prefer to leave it sealed at the moment. I just use commercial stuff for now at about $6.00 for 20 rounds.
a knife works pretty good to
Jeff Hickerson Yeah its better to save the canned ammo.
Jeff Hickerson As for emergencys you could always do the flip over and grind on cement method, that works pretty quick.
Andre Krumins I never would have thought of that.
Jeff Hickerson Glad to give you an idea!
Air escaping? I thought these were vacuum packed, so that would be air rushing in.
Thinking of possibly investing in a milsurp rifle. Not expensive but with history. Thanks for the great idea of opening it the decorative way that still keeps the lid intact. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to fit it back on after opening like that, even if it wouldn't be as air tight.
It seems like you can use the concrete rubbing trick with those, too. Don't know if you would consider this safe (don't see any reason why it wouldn't be), but if you were to take a tuna can (for instance) and rub that top ridge back & forth along the concrete it would grind that seam away so the can will open (you'll know you've ground enough from the ground being wet). It seems like the same type of can design, so it should work- you could probably use a file/sharpener/abrasive rock as well.
Lol he tried to say proof and said poop but I'm still your biggest fan
This helps anyone, like myself, that buys soviet era ammo in bulk. I have a store that I work in and we sell guns I.e. mosins the come in these cans for ammo. I've seen someone use a power sae to open one and holy shit I was scared, the chisel way helps because we don't always keep the openers or they don't come with the ammo. Thanks
Ever seen footwraps? Great thing to know to do (they're like socks, but easier to improvise & custom fit- plus they dry quicker & easier and you can wrap insulation like grass, newspaper, seat cushioning, etc... for warmth). As a trick, since you seem to like MacGyver-type stuff (as do I)- you can stuff grass into a shoe that's too big for your foot to make it fit better. there's a book: Makeshift Workshop Vol 1 & 2 that covers plenty of stuff like that.
Wonder what an air analysis would show for that 1976 air VS air today??
There is no air in those boxes.
Phil C: I kinda thought the same thing.... Lol
Pre-Chenobyl air inside....post Chenobyl air outside.
It would be air from a soviet industrial complex.....and no messy EPA to get in the way of all that lovely soviet soot. Just yummy!
Phil C I
Well this is useful, I always struggle when I open my soviet ammo cans in the morning
lol didnt have a sickle on hand for this one haha
Thanks. I’ll put the other can opener away and dig the original opener out of the trash. I had no idea!
lol yeah i should be back on track , switching computers out , sorry for the gap in time
Very cool ! Thanks for the info!
this is why i subscribed to this channel
Not only did I learn to open a can of ammo, I actually know what a can of ammo LOOKS like. Now I want one for prepping purposes...
The sharp edges on the lids look like good hand slicers.
i just use a plasma cutter....
Savage :-)
Toe ofawesome i use lightsaber
Steiner Eichmann So trendy.
I use a fighter jet
You fucking mad lad
I have a can opener like that and Always wondered where it came from lol. Now I know it’s a soviet ammunition can opener
Personally, I just used my pocketknife. I can also open cans of food with it. Very difficult, also makes a lot of messy sharp points around the edge that could easily cut you (In Soviet Russia, can opens YOU!'). Still, better to have a sharp can and a slightly temporarily dulled knife, than to have an empty rifle ;)
NormanMatchem or stomach, aim high
Best unboxing video ever
My favorite way is the survivalist concrete method.
Accidentally hits primer.
yeah Spam is a famous brand , i was curious myself when i was researching the name.
Americans always did it better. The US can is air tight & water proof, the ammo will last forever. You dont need any tools to open it just your hands . The best part is the can has a carry handle. They can be reused for anything including carring water.🍺
its funny because its the first video i ever made, (tuna can and concrete) itl just take forever with the ammo can
Thank You for the lesson!
man I thought there was gonna be spam in there
What a tough guy he is! He grabbed that canning lid with bare hands! OMG
if you have the proper connections , yes .but typically no
That is funny! Well, that's good to know. I'm suprised you never did a video on footwraps. I've seen how to do it, but that's a good trick that not too many people know. Talk about a zombie apocalypse skill! Apparently, mountain men used to do that, too. I'd think you could use brain-tanned leather, too (frequently called buckskin, it's fairly absorbant & probably breathable enough). Furs would work for the winter, but might need to be brain-tanned, as well.
Watching this in 2020 makes me so sad I didn't buy pallets of that badass 7N6 ammo when it was $170 per wood crate with two 1,080 round cans in it! 😥 Man I wish I had a time machine. I'd go back and buy a dumpster full of 7N6, $10 bakelite and circle 10 waffle mags.
You and 1000's of others!
thanks for the info. bro, keep up the great work!
Thanks for the idea of opening it from the sides! Also how do you compare the Russian vs the silvertip? is one hotter than the other? Accuracy? Thanks
I heard that you can open these sorts of cans by rubbing the crimped edges on top against an abrasive surface until you get through the metal. I think this would be a great way to reuse the box to store the ammo (After some modifications) or to store other stuff. Any chance you could do a video to see if this works??
It will work just takes longer.
Good job, I've seen some pretty bizarre ways of opening these cans.
like ?
+Cretu Paul YES
+Nick J ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) if you know what I mean ... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
For all you guys asking where you can get them from just go to google and type in whatever caliber you want and after that type in spam can for sale. EX. 7.62x54r spam can for sale. Hope this helped and good luck!
That can is freaking massive.
KGB Survivalist How long did it take you to do the decorative way? Also do you have to use it a certain angle, cause it doesn't seem to not to have enough room to clear the lip and the bottom of the lid.. FYI.. I am doing this on a 7.62x54r can. Thank you
one tin of 5.45x39mm is 1080rds
Where can you get just the ammo crates. Like no ammo or cans.
Excellent demo! Two thumbs up"
Looks to me like the same opener that i open my beef-o roni with would work just as well.
Just got a mosin and some spam cans. But the factory number is a 10 inside 2 quartered circles. The ammo was made in 1971 if that helps, does anyone know what factory this came from?
Back in old days of Soviet expansion in Afghanistan, in a time of hot battle, we had no time to use such a fancy methods for can opening. So instead, we were just using an Electric Super Can Opener 9000 to do this job in a half of a second.
I'll bet that can opener was built like a brick sh*thouse, too, just like a Mosin! ;)
Had a friend buy one of these in the early 1990s. He was in sheet-metal at the time, so lacking a Soviet tin-tool, he had to break out his own metal shears.
Or you can just use an axe.
Now that you have 3 open ammo boxes we expect crazy videos soon!!
Good shit nice content man
that's an interesting thought
where do you buy these? Or am I just out of luck and it has all been bought up
Thanks for helping us learn.
This video is completely WRONG. At no time did I see any consumption of Vodka whatsoever.
were da hell do you even find these anymore without them costing a ridiculous amount
Where does one procure a CRATE of 5.45 in spam cans?
5.45x39mm ,Ak-74
I wonder how long it would take to open one like you did the tuna cans . . .
Actually he did say it but if you watch closely you will see that the video is a bit faster than the audio :)
One thing he said was that is air tight but when he opened it he said air is escaping fron 1976 so not sure how that works also thats air rushing in
+George Danu air tight means no air can escape or enter the box, it does not mean the box is vacuum-sealed
+George Danu
This can actually is vacum sealed. This mate misstook sound of sucking in air for its escaping
Great JOB. I LEARNED ALOT THANK YYOU
Really cool! Nice job!!!
whats a good website to order surplus ammo from? preferably 7.62x39
Nice Job Com-rad.
Can you make a knife out of the can opener ?I mean if that is the only thing you have left ?
Great info, thanks!
You'd be surprised how quickly you can go through ammo if you practice your shot every day. Also if you buy in bulk it will be cheaper.
Yes, and much, much easier than military-grade ammo crates :D
Where do you get military stuff like this?
I was wandering, what do you say at the beginning of your videos?
Make more military equipment vids ! Do military,jungle boots !
Good video! I was wondering where you get your ammo from tho? Every place I have says I can only get 1 per transaction and I was wanting to buy 2 so I can get the wood crate. Please and thank you. :)
don't know where you are, if in CONUS go to aim surplus
Great Video!!
I believe for his AK-74, it's the only one I remember him showing that accepts that ammo (5.45x39).
Where do i get these in the states
Hey do you know where to get a can opener like that?
safety is number one priority.
Great video
That's awesome and I just want the little wood crate they come in.
Good video Broski.
How much dos the 30 round AK74 magazine weigh, when fully loaded.?
check on wikipedia
anders1621 Depends on the mag. Some are metal, some are polymer, and some are bakelite. About 1 pound would be the average.
Where did you get the ammo, anyway, and what gun is it for???
We're the hell do you get 3 cases of Russian ww2 ammo
oh ok what ever
Also the older ww2 ammo is well known to be corrosive in any firearm.
Here in Texas they sell it by that case at a store called gander mountain. Usually stacked up on a pallet.
1080 rounds per can, 2 cans per crate, is 2160 rounds for about $200= 10.8 cents per round. you can get it at a the store, gun show, or order it and have it mailed to your house and get free shipping too
WW2 ended in 1945. this ammo from 1976... this is ColdWar period
So now if I ever happen to find a case of Soviet ammo just laying around I'll know how to open it correctly.
Excellent! Thanks!