This is the best video demonstration of character power I've seen for ZZZ, no SSS disks or 10 legendary commands, just the work of a moderately assembled character in various realistic team conditions. Great job!
I love your videos because they prove that Grace and Piper are absolute powerhouses and that you don't need premium units like Caesar or Jane to get through the game's content.❤
i have Corin clearing content for me despite her being the "lowest" in the meta. IF you give a character enough love, they will perform -- thats how Hoyoburst games work
@@magboboterski lol my M6 Corin Is pretty farmed as well, and despite not being that strong, she can do just fine clearing endgame content wit the appropriate team to support/enhance her
@@magboboterski grated, a lot of corin's power relies on her mindscapes. My anton is doing immense work but I still have to admit it's thanks to qingyi and rina supporting him
The 1st wave enemies usually just stand still for you to push them cluster together. So it is easy to gather huge amount of energy and decibels when hitting them together
burnice ends up showing me a problem of not having 2 lucy for both sides of the stage, just for her versatility/ease of buff access in these teams lmao
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c too great imo, its unfortunate that i dont have rina for the same reason in my billy team, while soukaku is just way too clunky for me
Great game play! I always try to group but I end up pushing them away instead lol. Also I'm so excited for today I'll finally have my long awaited Jane/Ceasar/Burnice team!!!!
Having the "Stat bonuses" button in game now to show the exact total amount each Stat is getting from all your disc drives combined would've been really nice if you had pressed it
Man, all am missing is rina so i got a consistent partner for my grace. So that i can have 2 anomaly teams on each side if possible. Might consider Yanagi, depending on her kit at least
@@jeanvaljean6433How exactly will Yanagi replace Rina? Rina doesn't need a lot of field time on this team as she is a support. And while we don't have much info on Yanagi's kit yet, I'm suspecting Yanagi will likely replace Grace if she needs as much field time as her.
@@cupcakes7464 the chaos jazz drive discs are off-field buffs, considering they're new and released around the same time yanagi was teased im sure she might be an off-field anomaly unit aswell to pair with burnice
I lucked out on Burnice's disk drives substat. All 6 have anomaly proficiency so it pushed my Burnice to 398 (short of 2 points to 400) higher than my M6 Jane xD
Ahh yes the 90 pen Grace. Is building her pen with out Rina worth it at all? I'd be running Caesar in Rina's spot since I don't have the later. Better to stick with normal build on Grace or would just the pen disc stuff+ fusion compiler be enough to make it worth the swap over?
I'm thinking about pulling not for Burnice but for Lucy+Nicole dupes which are both insanely good supports. Feels kinda bad to waste pity on Burnice though because I won't really use her. Although her off field dmg is nice, she doesn't care about crit which won't combo well with the ice teams I want to build in the future.
great video! Could you maybe please explain the pros and cons over Seth or Caesar in Jane/Burnice team? I kinda feel sticking with Seth benefits Jane more and I like having Caesar in my second team for Shiyu since I lack a strong stunner. Dont really dig Anby's playstyle and neither do I have Koleda nor Lycaon, but I digress.
BP weapon is much more consistent. But if you use Burnice with Jane, you can stick with weeping gemini, because no boss can survive before they get out of stun - they simply die before that, so you wouldn't worry about losing your gemini stacks.
I can’t decide between Burnice or yanagi. Lost 50/50 too many times so can’t get both. Who do you recommend for Jane and Caesar haver? My other dps are Ellen and Zhu yuan
Simple, build crit Burnice, that way you wont worry about her burn damage, and afterburn does scale with crit, so you shouldnt lose much really, not to mention S11 with stunner and full burn uptime is near Ellen level (for single target).
@@Onikabutofirstsisterlater thank you! I wish they'd make it whenever you refresh a damage over time effect, It would take the existing ticks remaining and spread them out over the new effect's ticks. That said, it feels like anomaly units are just better than attackers already, and that would only make them even better.
It works for me. She replaced Koleda in my Solider-Koleda-Lucy team, and I was clearing faster and doing more DMG overall. Just her normal Anom Proficiency build
is energy regen instead of anomaly mastery in slot 6 still good for burnice? i plan on using either burnice/jane/seth or burnice/lucy/nicole if that matters
@@bakedb3anz ah okay, i mean as long you can clear the end game without issue with energy regen then don't worry about it lol it's just Burnice AM is so low without disk 6
i lost 50/50 got grace and got burnice rate on, is it really worth building grace? since yanagi is close to debut tho... (i want to pull yanagi too because then my team is complete that i have every element damage dealer)
Isnt best for burnice the other wengine, the green one? I am going home now to pull for her in guaranteed and only need 10 pulls (i have 143) and will probably get her then save for yanagi and lighter, i will try my best to get burnice m0 free weapon, yanagi m0 with sig weapon, and lighter m0 free weapon, i only need 10 pulls for burnice and if i won 5050 i will only need like 75 to get yanagi, then if i win the 5050 i will pull for yanagi wengine, but if i lost i will get her and save for lighter
@@LemonRush7777 Okay, thank you, I have been saving everything the game has been giving me since I started until someone confirm if it’s a good banner, and I seeing that it is, but that I should focus on anomaly if I do. I'm just starting to understand some things
Pen does increase the Shocks tick dmg, and disorder dmg is just (450% of Grace atk + shock per second * remaining shock time) so it also increases the Disorders damage. That being said, Pen% is not optimal here, they are probably using it because "Pen becomes more valuable the more of it you have and her signature already has it", which is true in fact. But Pen is still affected by the whole "putting a lot in one stat is worse than putting a little in every usefull stat" and those effects almost perfectly cancle each other out. In this case using electro% on the d5 would have been better, because Grace still has less than the 105% in dmg multipliers which is the breaking point from which one only you should build more pen% instead of dmg%.
what best disc -4 and -6 if my set is 4 set new disc anomaly electro and fire + fire disc 2 set ? currently mine disc 4 is AP and disc 6 is Atk... is it energy or AM better? atk 2.7k AP 400
Hi, which bangboo is better for Burnice, Grace, Rina? Plugboo or Rocketboo? you're using Rocketboo but the passive doesn't trigger due to only having 1 fire attribute, right? or it doesn't matter? TIA.
I have some questions Why anomaly mastery on disk 6 for Burnice but for Grace you went ATK%? Same for disk 5, Burnice has fire dmg and Grace penetration. Also why give Burnice two Freedom Blues and Grace two Puffer Electros?
Grace signature weapon has 24% PEN ratio as its main stat and the thing with pen ratio is that the more you have - the better it scales, so pen disk in slot 5, puffer electro for 2-piece, especially with Rina in a team gives so much pen ratio, that it outperforms electric damage bonus. As for slot 6 on Grace I don't really know which is better in such situation, because more atk is preferable when you have high pen ratio, but in disorder comps most of the time you want to use AM for faster disorder procs.
Yes, tho if I were you I'd go Burnice/Grace/Rina & Jane, Seth, Lucy, because core activation, and pen ratio disk 5 works better with Grace Burnice Rina than with Jane Rina.
From what I've seen from other content creators, Rainforest Gourmet's uptime is too short to go through the entirity of Burnice's scorch. So Weeping Gemini is generally better.
I use weeping gemini because Burnice is able to apply anomaly very quick so it's better in my opinion I think you can keep using Rainforest if you already maxed it and short on resources
Hey I just pull Burnice but I dont have any idea for the team. My account has Jane M2 + W Burnice M1 + W Ceasar M0 + W Grace M0 + W Rina M0 Seth M6 + W5 Lucy M4 + W5 Piper M6 + W5 Anton M6 + W5 I used Anton+Rina+Caesar and now I just have Grace and now I got Burnice M1 could you please sugguest a two team for me ( one for Jane and two for Burnice) Thanksyou
Both works well but i vouch for Piper at the moment, Piper Burnice Lucy has all three passive activated and a lot of enemies are weak to physical. I think Grace will fare better on electric weak enemy
Holy crap that grouping at the start was clean AF!
You’re playing a big part keeping me, a fellow Grace main, invested in this game.
I dont have rina but I have burnice and grace. Can lucy replace rina?
Do you have Seth? I think you need more help on the electric side since Burnice has off field application. Maybe even Amby as a burst support.
Grace is the last S rank agent I got out of 7 agents in standard banner
Why?
Because I haven't got her yet
@@reedsad4652 you can use lucy if your grace is well equipped and has a high anomaly. Seth is good too if you already invested in him.
Burnice on some of these teams is awesome you are lucky to get to pull her early
This is the best video demonstration of character power I've seen for ZZZ, no SSS disks or 10 legendary commands, just the work of a moderately assembled character in various realistic team conditions. Great job!
I love your videos because they prove that Grace and Piper are absolute powerhouses and that you don't need premium units like Caesar or Jane to get through the game's content.❤
yeah, one of my main physical teams has had piper since I realized how busted she is to stack anomaly, and so versatile at the same time
That’s why it’s easy to skip characters all content can be done with basic units
i have Corin clearing content for me despite her being the "lowest" in the meta. IF you give a character enough love, they will perform -- thats how Hoyoburst games work
@@magboboterski lol my M6 Corin Is pretty farmed as well, and despite not being that strong, she can do just fine clearing endgame content wit the appropriate team to support/enhance her
@@magboboterski grated, a lot of corin's power relies on her mindscapes. My anton is doing immense work but I still have to admit it's thanks to qingyi and rina supporting him
I really like the first team
The 1st wave enemies usually just stand still for you to push them cluster together. So it is easy to gather huge amount of energy and decibels when hitting them together
burnice ends up showing me a problem of not having 2 lucy for both sides of the stage, just for her versatility/ease of buff access in these teams lmao
Lucy is great. I finally got her from M1 to M6 and man, it feels so much better.
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c too great imo, its unfortunate that i dont have rina for the same reason in my billy team, while soukaku is just way too clunky for me
damn i wish i won the 50/50....
SAME MAN LOST IT AT HARD PITY
70 pull AND a pity...got lycaon.... i just want to jump from a window...
I lost 50/50 for Burnice and for her weapon too… but get lucky with weapon bcs I get 2 early (1 at 0 pity)
@@prometheus8359reaching hard pity at 90 wishes is statistically impossible
@@Cyno_gaming By "hard pity," they probably mean 76 to 80 pulls.
Great game play! I always try to group but I end up pushing them away instead lol.
Also I'm so excited for today I'll finally have my long awaited Jane/Ceasar/Burnice team!!!!
Burnice Grace rina is dream team
I just got my burnice today, built her as best as I could and MAN she cooked with my Jane team
Just maxed her…certainly bring Jane team to the next level
I think this is the first time I'm seeing Rina's ult
Having the "Stat bonuses" button in game now to show the exact total amount each Stat is getting from all your disc drives combined would've been really nice if you had pressed it
Man, all am missing is rina so i got a consistent partner for my grace. So that i can have 2 anomaly teams on each side if possible. Might consider Yanagi, depending on her kit at least
Yanagi will beat rina in this team i believe
@@jeanvaljean6433How exactly will Yanagi replace Rina? Rina doesn't need a lot of field time on this team as she is a support. And while we don't have much info on Yanagi's kit yet, I'm suspecting Yanagi will likely replace Grace if she needs as much field time as her.
@@cupcakes7464 the chaos jazz drive discs are off-field buffs, considering they're new and released around the same time yanagi was teased im sure she might be an off-field anomaly unit aswell to pair with burnice
@@jeanvaljean6433 If anything, Yanagi will replace Grace. Rina is still relevant as a support in that team with Burnice.
@@set7618 More like you can skip yanagi if you already have grace so you can prepare for miyabi.
She literally made disorder easier to trigger thanks to her afterburn effect
So she didnt need as much field time compare to other character
I'd say she made disorder a viable thing and not some joke.
Burnice is so fire 🔥
Jane Caesar being just slightly faster than Piper Lucy surprised me. Piper Lucy seem really strong.
That Piper Caesar Burnice team looks so fun, since I have Piper M6, I might throw a dozen of rolls into her banner and see if I get lucky
I lucked out on Burnice's disk drives substat. All 6 have anomaly proficiency so it pushed my Burnice to 398 (short of 2 points to 400) higher than my M6 Jane xD
I intentionally skipped Jane to secure Caesar and Burnice along with their weapons. Now I can enjoy Caesar Lucy Burnice team to my heart's content 😂.
That grace team team is fire and electric. 😂
Have a good one my man
burnice is so silly!!! ( she's an arsonist )
Ahh yes the 90 pen Grace. Is building her pen with out Rina worth it at all? I'd be running Caesar in Rina's spot since I don't have the later. Better to stick with normal build on Grace or would just the pen disc stuff+ fusion compiler be enough to make it worth the swap over?
The general rule is, if Grace is with Rina, her best build is with PEN at disk 5. If not with Rina, Electro at disk 5 works best.
lucy piper is zzz''s xiangling bennet lmao
I hope you’ll make a Solo Build for Burnice to run through all the Shiyu Defence 😂
What are your thoughts on Burnice, Rina, and Lucy team comp?
I'm thinking about pulling not for Burnice but for Lucy+Nicole dupes which are both insanely good supports. Feels kinda bad to waste pity on Burnice though because I won't really use her. Although her off field dmg is nice, she doesn't care about crit which won't combo well with the ice teams I want to build in the future.
awesome as always
Never seen this many disorders in my life
Wtf 300k disorder for that short stint is nuts
that piper’s insane
Can you try Hypercarry Burnice team with Seth and Qingyi. Loved the showcase
4:57 HooliShees
having energy trouble running her with yanagi onfield. do you suggest slot 6 energy regen, or 2piece effect energy regen on her?
I was lucky got her m1 together 😂 I don’t know to to use the extra 40 point of her passive now
great video!
Could you maybe please explain the pros and cons over Seth or Caesar in Jane/Burnice team? I kinda feel sticking with Seth benefits Jane more and I like having Caesar in my second team for Shiyu since I lack a strong stunner. Dont really dig Anby's playstyle and neither do I have Koleda nor Lycaon, but I digress.
Im new to the game, so which team is better? Burnice Grace Rina or Burnice Piper Lucy?
ty apel. Should I stick with BP weapon or craft f2p weapon better on her? i need help and idk which one is better x.x
BP weapon is better and only gets better the more copies you have of it
BP weapon is much more consistent. But if you use Burnice with Jane, you can stick with weeping gemini, because no boss can survive before they get out of stun - they simply die before that, so you wouldn't worry about losing your gemini stacks.
Those discs are pain
I can’t decide between Burnice or yanagi. Lost 50/50 too many times so can’t get both. Who do you recommend for Jane and Caesar haver? My other dps are Ellen and Zhu yuan
You game play is another level lol.
What do you think of Burnice Grace Seth?
Burnice + caesar + Lucy OR burnice + Caesar + piper? I ran low on resources so it would take me several days to build both to try 😢
I had the lipstick w-engine (from the bpass) and the rainforest so which weapon should I equip for Jane and Burnice ?
you think seth(M6) burnice jane is worth it or exchange for lucy(m6 but underlv)?
Iv won my 50/50 on Caesar and her sig, won it on Burnice too. I swear ill never win one ever again lol
Guy's, I got the Burnice'a W-engine by accident when I was pulling for copies of Nicole and Lucy's W-engines
It's worth use on Piper?
do you recommended Piper using 4pc Freedom & 2pc with Rainforest or 4pc Fang & 2pc Freedom with Her sig more? (my burnice using Electro lip-gloss)
just 4pc Freedom and 2pc fang
amazing
Do you think that Burnice would work in a Mono - Fire comp with 11?
My concern would be that 11 would be overwriting Burnice's burns too much.
Simple, build crit Burnice, that way you wont worry about her burn damage, and afterburn does scale with crit, so you shouldnt lose much really, not to mention S11 with stunner and full burn uptime is near Ellen level (for single target).
@@Onikabutofirstsisterlater thank you!
I wish they'd make it whenever you refresh a damage over time effect, It would take the existing ticks remaining and spread them out over the new effect's ticks.
That said, it feels like anomaly units are just better than attackers already, and that would only make them even better.
It works for me. She replaced Koleda in my Solider-Koleda-Lucy team, and I was clearing faster and doing more DMG overall. Just her normal Anom Proficiency build
Im curious about how crit burnince compares
I have a m2 soldier 11, no grace, and I’m thinking whether or not I should pull burnice… I hate my luck😢
do we only need 300 ap for burnice? then after that just go for atk%?
hope ur right. some DIsc Drive Recommend SILL Calculating Data!? . should have to wait (dont level up yet)
Is rainforest gourmet better then piper sig cus I'm also trying to build her
Can show you burnice + soldier + lucy
if i play piper with burnice, who should I use the ult?
What about S11 Lucy Burnice?
Is it possible if I switch out Caesar for Lucy or Seth
I go tm6 Lucy and accidentally got burnice
I'm using Bur, Lucy, Piper but i have Grace but no Rina.
Do i stick with that or should i switch Grace with someone?
I can only do the first team and second
is energy regen instead of anomaly mastery in slot 6 still good for burnice? i plan on using either burnice/jane/seth or burnice/lucy/nicole if that matters
just use anomaly mastery, her energy is fine without signature w-engine
im using lip gloss w-engine and no energy issue at all, at least for me
@@lenkaarata i only rly asked bc i have a slot 6 with energy regen main stat and rly good substats and i kinda dont wanna get rid of it now lol
@@bakedb3anz ah okay, i mean as long you can clear the end game without issue with energy regen then don't worry about it lol
it's just Burnice AM is so low without disk 6
@@lenkaarata noted, i think i'll try for an AM disc just in case i need it
i lost 50/50 got grace and got burnice rate on, is it really worth building grace? since yanagi is close to debut tho... (i want to pull yanagi too because then my team is complete that i have every element damage dealer)
This bangboo didn't work in a half of teams, sub stats not really good, but thanks for showcase😅
Isnt best for burnice the other wengine, the green one? I am going home now to pull for her in guaranteed and only need 10 pulls (i have 143) and will probably get her then save for yanagi and lighter, i will try my best to get burnice m0 free weapon, yanagi m0 with sig weapon, and lighter m0 free weapon, i only need 10 pulls for burnice and if i won 5050 i will only need like 75 to get yanagi, then if i win the 5050 i will pull for yanagi wengine, but if i lost i will get her and save for lighter
pls do s11 with caesar next
If the chain attack hasn't ended yet and you've used skill Q, will the chain attack lose damage?
I lost my 6th 50/50 in a row, I’ve lost literally every 50-50 in this game😑😑
Which main stat disc 6 is better for Burnice? I'm still debating on Anom. Mastery or ER
Right now Anomaly Mastery is still BIS in slot 6 for Anomaly characters because it helps tremendously with the anomaly buildup.
Is piper better with rainforest than her sig? My AP is now around 300, should I just focus on building her discs?
From experience? You want her sig for sure
I just started playing this game. Do you recommend pulling on this banner or should I save?
if she tick the waifu box she's a keeper
@@shiroineko13so, must pull
This banner has amazing A Ranks, but Burnice herself is skippable outside of anomaly teams. I would honestly pull if I were you.
@@LemonRush7777 Okay, thank you, I have been saving everything the game has been giving me since I started until someone confirm if it’s a good banner, and I seeing that it is, but that I should focus on anomaly if I do. I'm just starting to understand some things
Can Seth be used in rinas place
o god... did you kept the same AP gear for her hypercarry team?
What was the first song?
Neko-Caesar-Burnice or Piper-Caesar-Burnice? Tia🙏
Why all that Pen% on Grace? Does it result in higher Shock tick damage or does it also affect the Disorder damage?
Pen does increase the Shocks tick dmg, and disorder dmg is just (450% of Grace atk + shock per second * remaining shock time) so it also increases the Disorders damage.
That being said, Pen% is not optimal here, they are probably using it because "Pen becomes more valuable the more of it you have and her signature already has it", which is true in fact. But Pen is still affected by the whole "putting a lot in one stat is worse than putting a little in every usefull stat" and those effects almost perfectly cancle each other out. In this case using electro% on the d5 would have been better, because Grace still has less than the 105% in dmg multipliers which is the breaking point from which one only you should build more pen% instead of dmg%.
Grace/burnice/lucy could work ?? I also have seth, no rina though
That team doesn't activate Grace's 2nd core passive, replace Lucy with Seth.
If i have grace wengine, should i give to burnice or piper? I still dont have grace lol
what best disc -4 and -6 if my set is 4 set new disc anomaly electro and fire + fire disc 2 set ?
currently mine disc 4 is AP and disc 6 is Atk... is it energy or AM better?
atk 2.7k AP 400
For Anomaly characters just use AP disc for slot 4 and AM disc for slot 6. That's the best choice atm.
Hi, which bangboo is better for Burnice, Grace, Rina? Plugboo or Rocketboo? you're using Rocketboo but the passive doesn't trigger due to only having 1 fire attribute, right? or it doesn't matter? TIA.
Plugboo, Burnice already applies burn really fast on her own.
I’ve been trying to find the battle them at the beginning for the longest time.Does anyone know the name?
The name is Soil of Disaster.
I have some questions
Why anomaly mastery on disk 6 for Burnice but for Grace you went ATK%? Same for disk 5, Burnice has fire dmg and Grace penetration. Also why give Burnice two Freedom Blues and Grace two Puffer Electros?
Grace signature weapon has 24% PEN ratio as its main stat and the thing with pen ratio is that the more you have - the better it scales, so pen disk in slot 5, puffer electro for 2-piece, especially with Rina in a team gives so much pen ratio, that it outperforms electric damage bonus. As for slot 6 on Grace I don't really know which is better in such situation, because more atk is preferable when you have high pen ratio, but in disorder comps most of the time you want to use AM for faster disorder procs.
@@Drongo_drongo dude, thank you for taking your time to write this, I understand more now
why dont your piper have her wengine ? or is the other one better ? i gave rainforest to my burnice 😅
what abt burnice qingyi lucy?
It's a good comp Burnice/Grace/Lucy? My Main Team is Jane/Seth/Rina and i need a second good team for shifu defense
Yes, tho if I were you I'd go Burnice/Grace/Rina & Jane, Seth, Lucy, because core activation, and pen ratio disk 5 works better with Grace Burnice Rina than with Jane Rina.
would burnice go with a fushion compiler?? I got two of them
Yes, she can. It's also more potent if you have Rina
@@bibitapelthanks a lot man everyone's quiet in the zzz discord 😭
can anybody tell me is it chaos jazz good on grace disorder team ?, or thunder disc still good on her ?
burnice ceasar piper?
Wait shouldn’t her AP be higher?
Is weeping gemini better on burnice when on Burnice Rina Grace? Rn Im using rainforest gourmet. Do you have any reccommendation?
From what I've seen from other content creators, Rainforest Gourmet's uptime is too short to go through the entirity of Burnice's scorch. So Weeping Gemini is generally better.
I use weeping gemini because Burnice is able to apply anomaly very quick so it's better in my opinion
I think you can keep using Rainforest if you already maxed it and short on resources
@@bibitapel Its so much clearer because I kinda hesitate rn whether to go for gemini or not. Thanks for the suggestions ❤️
Hey I just pull Burnice but I dont have any idea for the team.
My account has
Jane M2 + W
Burnice M1 + W
Ceasar M0 + W
Grace M0 + W
Rina M0
Seth M6 + W5
Lucy M4 + W5
Piper M6 + W5
Anton M6 + W5
I used Anton+Rina+Caesar and now I just have Grace and now I got Burnice M1 could you please sugguest a two team for me ( one for Jane and two for Burnice)
Thanksyou
Grace Rina Burnice & Caesar Jane Seth
What bangboo are you using for the first 2 teams
Rocketboo
Tip for anyone who hasnt found put. You can ise caesar and burni to explore the city now
I have grace and burnice but dont have Rina... do u have any recommendation other than Rina?
you could go Lucy I guess?
Is there a reason why you use Atk on 6 for Jane instead of Anomaly Mastery?
It's more into personal preference, i like seeing big number so i choose Atk
Wish I could get her but I gotta stay strong for raiden (yanagi). Great vid but I'll def pick her up in a future rerun to compliment yanagi further
Grace/burnice/lucy or Piper/Burnice/lucy you think is stronger? It's because i don't have rina to support grace
Both works well but i vouch for Piper at the moment, Piper Burnice Lucy has all three passive activated and a lot of enemies are weak to physical.
I think Grace will fare better on electric weak enemy
@@bibitapel thanks