Red Pill "Men Must Become, Women Just Are" vs Jung | The Feminine, Anima; our Soul & Wisdom (Part 1)

This is about the masculine and the feminine, and why we should value both immensely, both in the internal process of individuation and externally in our everyday lives. "Men Must Become, Women Just Are" - Rollo Tomassi, Andrew Tater, Fresh and somewhat fit; these Red Pill leaders (or at least red pill type influencers) make some interesting claims, some factual, some truly asinine. This is one of the most problematic claims I've come across.
Chapters:
00:00 "Men Must Become, Women Just Are"
01:50 The Anima, Individually & Collectively
02:58 Anglo-Saxons: Power of the Anima & Animus Together
05:24 Anima - The Path to Your Self
06:41 Western Society is Crumbling as We Fail to Respect Men & Honor the Feminine
07:22 Feminine Traits, Aspects, Strengths
10:26 Man is the Head, Woman the Neck?
11:13 The Healthy War of the Masculine & Feminine

[@marquesiam7514]

I’m gonna chalk this up to synchronicity the thing I needed right at the right time. You did an amazing job, sir. Thank you for your contribution.

[@JoshRueff]

That's awesome, glad to hear it. And thank you, I appreciate it!

[@adriada3435]

Men and women are two sides to one coin. Without the other, we are not whole.

[@BenTomlinson1994]

The reason the quote exclusively deals with reproductive selection which you didn't answer.
In order for men to gain access to the opposite sex they must succeed or show successful traits.
Women do not need to show any feminine traits to gain access to men. Now youth, innocence and beauty will improve a woman's odds of being selected by a highly successful man but its not required for women to find a romantic partner.
But physical strength, social competence and ambition are required for men to be selected by women.

[@qezics1]

Great video man. Quick question, do you happen to be Christian since you mention proverbs a couple times?

[@JoshRueff]

Thank you! And sorry I'm just now getting to this. It depends on who's evaluating - to many, I'm not, to many (I think most, but I'm not sure), I am. I call myself a Christian and consider myself one.

[@driftlesswindsfarm2129]

How are there only 9 likes? Great topic...great presentation

[@JoshRueff]

Thank you, much appreciated! Yeah, it's a polarizing topic these days, much more than it should be...

[@onlypearls4651]

Great topic. I really appreciate you taking on this one, though I am shocked to hear that some (perhaps many) believe that women mustn't "become" (through properly integrating their animus)., and that they simply "are" by virtue of mere existence. I'd honestly not heard of this aspect/belief until now. If such is the case, that there is this wrong thinking out there, then you're likely to catch some heat from taking on this topic so directly. I couldn't agree with you more - that women, like men, must "become" in order to embody wholeness. The video seemed to cut-off abruptly, and seemed to be headed into deeper waters when it suddenly ended. Perhaps you could take it a bit further, to reveal your fuller thoughts on this topic? Thanks for your work - good stuff, brother!

[@JoshRueff]

Thanks brother, I appreciate it!! Yeah, it's a weird thing to think and even weirder to say. It's just wild what you hear online sometimes.. It would be one thing if this was a one-off from some random person popping out of the endless black hole of internet whackos, but it kind of caught me off guard learning that this is widely accepted in the red pill community - I heard this not once or twice, but many times, and from different red pill influencers on here on youtube.
And yes, definitely! I'll have part 2 complete and published in a day or two if everything goes according to plan.

[@JimBillyRayBob]

"...Women Just Are"
It's true in terms of sexual market value.
But it doesnt have to be true for you, if you dont let your little head dicktate your choice
You always get what you settle for.
If YOU settle for a woman who simply *is* (attractive) snd feels no need to do or become anything more than that,
That's exactly what you will get.
The choice is yours

[@JoshRueff]

Nailed it on the head, that's good. And I think a lot also depends on whether we're talking about short term sexual market value or long term. If long term, I believe men are actually much more selective because we're not just stone age primates chasing the sexiest woman we can catch and make as many babies as possible with. We're far beyond that, if we were ever merely that to begin with.
Compared to apes and chimps we're actually quite sophisticated in our mate selection even as men, in part because we know our mate choice heavily influences the outcome of our lives (a good wife is intelligent enough to learn your business and support it, wise enough to raise, protect, guide, nurture your children, has a deep, fun/interesting enough personality so you can bear being with her long term, etc).
Like you said, if you settle for a woman who simply is attractive, that is precisely what you'll get.. that's why this message can be so damaging to men.

[@JimBillyRayBob]

@@JoshRueff I've found RedPill teaching to be quite true, but not the entire story. It seems to me that as men we need to come to grips with the harsh truths it teaches first, to no longer be naive, and then and only then can we enter a less hostile, less zero-sum, and nihilistic reality.
That's been my experience so far anyway and it's working pretty well. Denying those harsh truths never works out well, but there is also more room for something with more meat to it, if a man has himself integrated pretty well, has firm boundaries and clear goals for his life and for the relationship. "No" is often the magic word. A man who can say no to a gorgeous woman has learned a thing or two about both women and himself.
Nothing will gain the respect of an attractive and quality woman quicker than a principled "no".
Search youtube for:
teach a woman to be accountable in 5 steps - An Ear for men
for a great one. You'll notice the primary focus of what he says is on you, not her.
I've yet to find an exception to this one though: men are the true romantics pretending to be pragmatists. Women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics. That may just be my choice in women, but when women have children, they become quite fearful and hence extremely pragmatic

[@JoshRueff]

​@@JimBillyRayBob Good stuff, thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out. Yeah, I agree that the Red Pill ideas are often based in reality, there really is a lot of truth to it, but like you say, it's not the entire story.
I think it leads many young men to becoming jaded and sometimes worse, and divides men and women more than they already were by pointing out the worst in women. If you have a good balance like you seem to, and are able to sniff out the BS, I suppose it can probably be helpful in the right doses. Helps young men improve themselves at least, helps them embrace their masculinity - that much I like.
Many if not most of the leaders of the movement seem scummy to me though, at least from what I've seen - not people I'd emulate for the most part, with some exceptions of course.