ESI Wireless Programmable Room Thermostat Boiler Plus Control ESRTP4RF
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2018
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First look at the new wireless boiler plus programmable room thermostat from ESI I'm going to look at a new control for Boiler Plus. This is a new control that will comply with your Boiler Plus regulations. This is the ESi control. What I'm going to do is I'm going to open it up and I'm going to have a look inside, see what I think to it. Now, this is the first one I've seen. I've not opened the box yet. I'm going to open it up and I'm going to give you my first opinion of it.
Then what we're going to do then is we're going to instal it onto this Baxi 600 boiler here and then we'll set it up and see what we think of it. Then I do welcome feedback from anybody who is installing these already, so if you're already installing these, I'd really be grateful. Add some comments below and let us know what you think to it.
Let's have a look now. First of all, I'd like to thank Spinks in Leeds, the plumber merchants. They've provided this control for me to do a review on. All right then. Let's have a look inside the box. What do we get? Instructions, some more instructions, a controller, some batteries, not in there, the receiver. It looks like it's got a standard style back plate. We'll have a look at that in a minute. Self-fixing screws, and then a stand, so that must clip on the stand.
As always, I'd advise you to read the instructions. If you're going to be installing quite a few of these, then if you read the instructions the first time, then at least you'll be fittin' 'em right from day one. Read the instructions, most important thing of all. If we have a look in the instructions here, it just tells you we need to be 1.5 metres high. I've undone the two screws here on the back plate. Lift the back plate off and then I'm just going to fit the back plate on here. This is only for demonstration purposes. I'll be taking this back off afterwards.
We've isolated the boiler. We've done his electrical checks. Always make sure that you're competent if you're going to be working on gas and also if you're going to take the case off a boiler, you need to be Gas Safe registered. Let's have a look inside now. At the moment in this Baxi 600, we've got connected via OpenTherm, so we've got a Nest Thermostat on this at the moment. I'm going to disconnect this and then we're going to connect our new control into this. If we have a look here, we've got live, we've got neutral, and we've got his earth. Then we've got switch wires here. Them switch wires, we're going to put in here because this control works off TPI, so we'll have a look at that now.
well. There's a cutout section at bottom of here for the wires and then the receiver just clicks onto there. Then for purpose of this video, I'm going to put the clock here. It does come with a stand as well, but I'm just going to put it on the wall here and then we can see it working together when we fire it up. The programmer, that's wireless, and it gives you the option so you can fit it onto a stand or you can fit it on the wall if you like and it comes with batteries. I'm just going to put these batteries into here now. We've put the batteries in there now and then we're going to turn the power onto this.
If we just scroll that up so we can let the boiler fire up ... Don't know if you heard that click then? Then the boiler's firing up. Turn that back down, going on. It's already too warm in here. When you first look at this, the cover doesn't stay down. What you've got to do is you've got to pull that cover off of the front of it and then it goes down then, but this is the ESi Wireless Programmable Room Thermostat. It's about £40. For £40, it also complies with Boiler Plus. I don't think you can go wrong with it for £40, to be honest. It looks okay. Obviously, it'll depend on how reliable they are going forward, but this is TPI as well. It looks good. I'm quite impressed with it, to be honest. Some of it feels a little bit cheap, like that button there. It's got a little line there which is a little bit hard to see, but for £40, you can't fault it, I don't think, to be honest.
That's the ESi Programmable Room Thermostat, which is wireless and complies with Boiler Plus. All in all, my opinion so far, obviously I've not installed them on customers' houses yet, so I don't think how reliable they will be going forward, but I think they look good. They look okay. They look valuable for money and I don't think there's anything on the market that's anywhere near that price for the functions that this does. It also has advanced settings in there as well, which I'm going to play with a bit later, but thanks for watching. I hope this video was of some use to somebody. #BoilerPlus #buyandcomplywithesi - Навчання та стиль
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How do you make esrtp4rf to read the boiler
How would you wire this into a volt free boiler connection
Thank you so much. Just moved to the UK (from Australia where we don't know what heating is). I had no idea how to work the heating in our flat until I watched this.
Alan! You have saved my life mate I’m
A new engineer and I’m fitting a esi room thermostat tomorrow. Thank you so much! I couldn’t work out the wiring as I found the instructions poor. Probably just me but big thanks again your a ledge. Best regards, Ben happy days
Glad i was able to help. Please come back and let us know how you have got on with it. Thanks.
How do I turn my heating on it's not turning on
Had mine fitted for 10 months. It’s been superb!
Thank you for watching.
Thanks for helping out with the wiring Alan, much appreciated
fitted the Esi stat now a dozen times for price can't go wrong good video mate there bang on 👍
Hi Allen I am always interested when you have a new video online and they are very informative.
Thanks
Thank you for your kind words.
Amazing just come across this I’m actually installing one tomorrow
Thank you Allan your videos are so useful. 😊
I've been installing them for about a year now ,they work well good stat
Tom Thow Thank You, I will be installing a few and see how we get on 👍
Hi Alan, I enjoyed lots of your videos, keep it up
Thank you today I save some money it's a big help wish you all the best ☺️
Fitted quite a few, they are really good value
Have you had any issues? Thanks.
thank you once again am going to install one of these thermostat thanks
injoy ur video
Good video Alan..
The old guard are due a kick up the backside quite frankly...
The H brand are in my opinion, overpriced in a difficult market...and arrogant with it..
Nice to see something made in this country ..and I'll always support that..
I have used an ESI standard room thermostat,and very pleased with it...
Cheers for this Allen was after a cheaper wireless stat to offer customers. This fits the bill mate 👍🏻
It looks ok to be honest, please come back and let me know how you get on. Thanks.
Best control ever
Good review; seems a great part at that price, looks good enough to be a regular install for clients with wireless requirements. However, I think I read on the packaging about 3 year warranty, if that's correct that's amazing for that price then!
it looks like a very good product.
Use there products all the time been great no call backs older customers happy with display
Thanks for that.
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video.
Very useful
I have this timer but it's not easy to use for novice people or customers. But its a very sophisticated timer and price is very reasonable.
Great video allan art
My parents have had this for about 4 years, they’re 78 and have no idea how to operate it. I have to change the time every 6 months and that’s all I know. Heating goes off all the time in winter then my dad has to turn it up. Looking to get a Nest next for them.
Great video Allen, I want to replace my ESi with a nest, I gather I can use the same wiring but move the tpi terminals over to the opentherm terminals for nest?
Alan got a oil fired Worcester exterior but w3 have no room thermostAt just TRVs on the radiators can you;advise on a wireless thermostat one we can link up to the iflo heating programmer xx thanks a million your videos are the best
Hi Allen , Great to see you back , Great video , and for £40 looks ok . What tool bag do you have , and is a veto ????
I have an old BG blue box, lol. Thanks.
I've just had one of these fitted on my boiler the buttons have failed already on temperature control up and down it just feels like a really cheap thermostat and it's less than 12 month old think I'll be upgrading to a more reliable one
IT seems that my thermostat is no longer speaking to the boiler, the triangle in a circle has a line through it. Batteries are fine - any suggestions?
Hi Alan thanks for the vid. My ESI thermostat lights up when controlled by the wireless but the boiler does not activate. Any help
Hi could you please tell me did that bracket for the wall came with the stat as I only have the table stand only
I just moved into a property which already had the ESI installed I followed the UA-cam tutorials and got the heating running but only for a day I got the heating in the upstairs bedroom and now it’s been 4 days there is no heating upstairs only due stairs in the living n kitchen area.... what am I doing wrong? Please advice
Alan I have had a new baxi 630 fitted with the new esi esrtp4rf+ version.. And the plus version has opentherm wiring... I have just been into mine and it's wired just to the on / off.. Am I better to wire it opentherm?? Or should I use the tpi option??? And if so what's the benefits
Thanks
Isn’t the manual instructions for install stating 1.5 meter is for the programmable thermostat and not the receiver. The receiver stays next to the boiler no instructions for its placement in the manual. The programmable thermostat in the instructions is the 1.5 meter from the floor away from excessive temperature fluctuations, bit confusing given it has a stand. New instructions now say have the thermostat in the area you want to be comfortable heat wise. The hallway usually where these are put isn’t the best as front and back doors open and are the worse for temperature fluctuations.
Hi Allen great video! 1 quick question, the other box that says ‘ESRTP4RF+’ where it says M/A it is red on my box, do I have to click the ‘MANUAL’ setting? Thanks in advance buddy
I do not install these now so unfortunately i do not know the answer. Thanks.
Hi Allen
Thanks for the video.
Can you please tell me how to connect this control to Glow-worm energy as Glow-worm has only one wire for room thermostat.
I will really appreciate.
Thanks
I do not understand the question? Thanks.
Hello mate, how do you take off the clock unit of the wall once its fixed ? Can u make a video of that please ?
The new ESi which is the same unit but instead of ESRTPRF it is called the ESRTPRF+ which does open therm, if wiring open therm is the link removed on normal switch connections on terminal block?
How do you attach the control unit to the wall as there are no instructions
shouldn't the 230v feed from boiler link go to common on the programmer?
Good review 👍
Does it link up automatically when powered up or do you need pair it like the Drayton’s ?
Its already linked.
What about on a worcester 4000 only requires 1 wire which one do you use?
Alan do you not need to link those two wires then or is there already a link in the backplate ?
Hi. Will it work for my ideal logic +
Thanks
Mr Hart
Thank you for video.
Is the ESI compatible with Worcester Greenstar 30i, so it meets the criteria of boiler plus. If not which clock/thermostat do you recommend to install which meets boiler plus criteria on a Worcester 30i. Got to be cheap and cheerful because customers my way want everything for free.
Thanks
Muhammad Sami as far as I am aware it is compatible. Please check with ESI just to make sure 👍
Great vid! You know yer onions and trying to get sense out of an "accredited" heating company is like extracting teeth! Sorry for this dumb question but being a nooby gas customer I would like to know whether this controller can be used for a REGULAR gas boiler ie. hot water plus rads scenario (because on the vid you installed it for a Combi). The new boiler would replace our existing oil boiler that has four pipes (2 for the indirect hot water cylinder & 2 for the rads) and simple separate on/off mains control (via room stat and 7-day programmer) for the boiler and the pump.
This controller is for a combi boiler although ESI do controls to suit most installs. Thanks.
Cheers.
Could you run a link from live to common No 1 Then put in (No 2 the normally open) cable for heating on and S plan to use the heating with the thermostat
Whilst the hot water still going through the original programmer
To benefit from the thermostat on the heating
Because the original programmer doesn’t have a thermostat
Many regards
Great video
Hi Allen, how do I actually hang this on the wall? You never showed this so just a little confused.
My dumb as old man touched the boiler controller the one that says ( n/a. Manual) the 2 button one..
The plumber told him not to even I did...
Now I need to sort this issue out. What button or if both should be lit up? The left or right or both? Got to get. The thermostat to control the boiler again.
Hi, please can someone help me? I have a ESI ESRTP6CWR and all I want to do is make it so the heating does not turn on itself and only when I do. However my one just turns on and I can’t figure it out it’s in a new build house.
Hi I have a new basi boiler.want to connect the wireless controller common wire 1& 2 common connections in the boiler is 1& 3.? Do I copy like for like
Took back 2 salus today and fitted an esi ...seems.ok
What does it mean do the m/a button has a red ring around it?
How about if you have 2 rooms that require different temperatures?
how does it comply with boiler plus? I know it says it does. Thought boiler plus was weather comp or or smart thermostat. Good review tho mate
Hi Allen, Thanks for sharing your knowledge. To comply with boiler plus shouldn't the controls be smart controls ie. have the ability to be controlled by a smartphone, tablet or computer and also have weather compensation and/or load compensation? Or is this considered a smart control because it has a programmable thermostat? Thanks
Our RTP4(RF) doesn’t comply due to having TPI as this is not considered as an acceptable feature to comply with the new regulations. We do, however, comply under that category of smart due to having both automation and optimisation within the thermostat. It does not need to have internet connectivity to be considered smart as for the new regs it is the part L definition for smart that is being used. Hope this helps but any questions you can always call me on 07534009457.
@@ryangreen2150
Thanks. I do know TPI by itself does not comply to BoilerPlus. So this ESRTP4RF does comply with BoilerPlus? Because it has optimisation?
Automation? What does this actually mean? A clock?
Hi All,
Please fire all enquiries relating to ESi products to me directly either by mobile phone (07534009457) or email (rgreen@esicontrols.co.uk) simply as it’s much easier for me to respond. Thanks
I think it complies with boiler plus due to the point that it must have automation and optimisation, TPI actually doesn't comply with boiler plus, I've heard it from the horses at BEIS, do not take the word of BEAMA, they are wrong. Still love all these videos.
I am told it is boiler plus. Thanks.
Hi can you help me decide on the replacement salus rt500 please. Either the salus rt510rf or the ESI esrtp4rf. Thanks
ESI seems to be holding up well, They both do same job really. Thanks.
Hi, how much would the charge be to install because everyone rips me off silly.
How do you fit it in the wall?
Hi Allen.
Love watching your informative videos, I am an electrician by trade and do boiler control wiring for some heating engineers. Is there a reason why most boiler manufacturers don't make the boiler wiring termination accessible without having to remove the front cover which as you have stated should only be done by a gas safe registered person. Thanks for sharing.
Catch 22 i guess but totally understand what you are saying. i do not know the answer tbh. Thanks.
Yes because its called JOB WORTH. And only a decent manufacture will provide easy accesable take off wires.
Is this open-therm compliant Allen ?
Has anyone had this guys a long term... Are these reliable..... I like the features.... Much cheaper than the big brands....
Where is number 2 connected to in the boiler??
Hi. Can you explain the 2 buttons on the receiver wired to boiler and their functions please. Thanks.
I will try and do another video to explain when i get chance. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 Thank You. All this boiler plus regulation is a nightmare
They are brilliant for the price easy for customers to use
Thanks for the feedback. Have you installed many of these? Thanks.
Allen Hart about 3
@@royplumber The EPH ones are also very nice. If you install a few they will brand them. ua-cam.com/video/JpOq06PBUxY/v-deo.html
Allen Hart good idea allen
@@royplumber Thanks for watching buddy. Good night.
Hi Alan is there a factory reset on this
Look and feel a bit flimsy compared to eph controls I’ve been fitting
I have a battery Low signal - is there anything i should do before simply replacing the two batteries? Thanks (I have two wall thermostats - one upstairs and one downstairs)
I couldn’t possibly say tbh. Sorry.
Sorted !
Can please ask can I just replace hand held control as my is broken pls help don’t want replace whole lot
It just clips off on the back plate on the wall, very easy
How the hell do you change the batteries?
Where did you buy it from Allen?
I didnt buy it, I was given it for free to test from www.aespink.com/leeds-plumbing-heating/
How can I read my meter?EON send me estimate bill.estimate bill is too much.But I want the actual bill.
i wired it same way on main combi 25 kw but the boiler doesnt seem to fire up ???
It wouldn't work because those terminals carry 230v AC. They are not volt free which carry between 12-24v normally 24v. Hope you didn't damage anything 😳
Hi Alan, From one Yorkie to another. I have just installed one of these controllers on a Worcester Bosch 4000 and couldn't get it to work. I removed the link for the heating. took a live earth and neutral from the boiler to the controller, linked live from L to terminal 1 on the controller and took a wire from terminal 2 on the controller and connected to heating on the boiler. Am I missing something?????
Did you try pressing the manual button on the receiver....! If you did it should come on , if it doesn't the receiver's faulty....if it does come on manually then you might have to re pair the stat to the receiver again , I've had a couple that have done this.....👍
@@yensabi Thanks for your quick response, yes I did try that and it didn't respond.
i use the nest i like it much more than the hive
I have a nest in my own house and really like it.
How do u screw the wireless thermostat on to wall pls?
Do you have the back plate?
much prefer Hive easy to use and reliable also you can add lots of smart home extras
Hive is ok but its about 4 times the price, if i was going to spend that money i would install a Nest. Each to their own. Thanks.
Hive does not comply to boiler plus.
thanks for the reply yeah agreed nest is also very good a few more features than hive but hopefully hive will catchup with a few software updates
Replaced a honeywell for esi wired it the same way but the esi will not fire the boiler the controller is trying to fire the heating but it will not any help please???
I would advise to get someone to look at it and test the wires with a multimeter, Thanks.
Allen,
If your thermostat is broken, can you start your central heating manually?
Thanks mate
Can you press the override button on the front of the receiver?
@@AllenHart999 Sorted it. but your video on the water pressure valve saved me last winter! Happy holidays
@@johnmellon1820 Great stuff. Thanks so much for watching my videos.
Please could you tell me ……How do I take the wireless thermostat off the wall?
The thermostat should lift off.
👍🤓👍
Thanks for watching
my nan has one of these and we have NO clue how to use it!
cant you just turn it on and on ////?
Hi Allen , should have said just about to change my tool bag as worn out . I'am a plumber / heating engineer like yourself .
keith jackman dont buy veto, there a bit crap. have bought one recently all pockets are same size and a bit small and bloody thing keeps falling over in back of van( never had problem with stanly technicians bag) strap is good for holding and it does look like it will last. I am 70% not going to get another but if this one does not last more than 6/7 years will be 100% not get one. For cost you could get 5/6 stanleys and even if they lasted a year and stanley has alot of varied size pockets
Thanks DP , Not to sure what to do , But thankyou for your comment as there are a lot of reviews on these veto tool bags on youtube , Which veto bag have you got . And yes they are not cheap !!!!
keith jackman tech ot-mc screwfix item number 9192k you dont get that daft center plastic box in fat max as you do in veto. I find more stuff gets dragged out to get stuff at bottom of bag. Think veto are just pushing marketing a lot
Thanks mate .
I still have my old Gas Board blue box lol. Thanks.
Mine doesn't have any connection to it? the wifi internet connection thing as a circle with a line through it!
These do not have wifi. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 Signal / Wifi, connection on the control panel. The whole system thing was installed along with a new oil boiler I had put in.
I had this issue... Its no signal reading and for mine it was there was no pressure in the boiler so after sorting that I had to turn the boiler off and on again
Hiya,how can I set it to on demand heat only?
Hi Barry, I am not really sure what you mean?
Hiya, sorry I meant to override all programs so I have control of when the central heating starts and stops, would this be the summer mode , turn off at the ESI thermostat when no central heating required ( only hot water)then turn on to Manual to turn central heating on when I require it, that's what I meant by on demand central heating, sorry I did not make my self clear.
Thank you for any advice you could give me
Do they have an OpenTherm version for sale?
John Burns Hi John. We do, it is the RTP4RF+. If you speak to your local merchant they will either have it in stock or can contact us directly to discuss opening an account and will be able to get them on a next day delivery once the account has been officially opened. Should you require any assistance feel free to contact me directly on 07534009457. Thanks
@@ryangreen2150
Thanks Ryan. Do you have a model, hard-wired or wireless, that can operate as a simple _room thermostat_ or a normal stat/timer. One when as a thermostat it is super simple to operate.
Many flats (especially rented) the occupants do not use the timer function (many of them are too complex for them to understand anyhow), just wanting an on-off and temperature control. It would be nice to have a timer or thermostat only function setting. That is, when in thermostat only mode, the timer part is irrelevant.
I didnt know that Thanks.
Great review, it does look flimsy
It feels ok to be honest. I am going to install some of these and see how we get on. Thanks.
so automation and optimisation but not load compensation..
You've also explained nothing about what that other panel with the buttons does...
I will try and do a longer one for you when i use another. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 That would be great, THANKS :) I've subbed and liked your video, even though not fully explaining both things that come with it :)
Knuckles Uganda ESI was sent this video before I uploaded to make sure everything was correct 😂😂 Thanks
You didn't show how to pair it. Also the receiver looks horrible on the side of my boiler. I'd rather have a programmer inside my boiler.
Im finding it hard to set the times and days instruction are POOR and looking on you tube videos go to fast to follow or perhaps its me (ludite)
Gas safe registered lol
When 94yr old mum had new boiler they fitted one of these. Completely unsuitable and even with a career spent in telecomms using all manner of hand held and other programmable devices I found this very un user-friendly. Even if it does have many sophisticated functions my advice is - Avoid
It didn't help that there was an error in the user manual.
Instructions aren’t the best
This video is not for anyone, it didn't help me at all.
Very poorly made. The boiler does not connect to the thermostat.